Post/Author/DateTime	Post
RoninFrosty 04-21-07, 11:16 PM	I was wondering if the faithful fans of George R. R. Martin's "A Song of Ice and Fire" series have had this idea yet...I know there are some talented game designers among us, so I was merely curious. I've already posted this in D20 design, but you guys tend to be quicker on the draw, and have a higher traffic flow. Truth be told, I'm less interested in playing in Westeros as I am in seeing my favorite characters in stat block form...
Ishmayl 04-21-07, 11:56 PM	Someone (http://www.amazon.com/Game-Thrones-D20-Based-Gaming-Scorcery/dp/1588469425/ref=pd_bbs_7/103-0837624-1187825?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1177214139&sr=8-7) had has the idea....
Hochiu 04-22-07, 12:43 AM	Unfortunately, the setting doesn't lend itself well to d20. Too few rules supporting the massive amount of intrigue and sheer awesomeness of characters like Jaime, Tyrion, John and Ed.
adgramaine 04-22-07, 12:52 AM	I've always found that courtly intrigue is bogged down by mechanics. Most of it is done by simple Role-Play and judicious use of Bluff, Diplomacy, Gather Info, Intimidate, using bribes, and the like. No need for crunchy stuff beyond this, IMO. For purists, yeah, I agree the setting doesn't lend well to d20. But for those just dying to play, at least we got the tools... er, books. And hey, at least GoTd20 wasn't WoTd20, right? :eek:
GoriceXII 04-22-07, 01:56 AM	I generally agree with the above. The situations in the stories are so fluid, so dependant on a number of circumstances. However certainly basing a campaign in that setting would be very fun. I and other DMs on here have used it as inspiration or outright grabbed material for use in games.
adgramaine 04-22-07, 02:02 AM	...I and other DMs on here have used it as inspiration or outright grabbed material for use in games. Specifically, for the nicely done Noble class, and the rules that it uses. :D My game wouldn't be the same without it!
RoninFrosty 04-22-07, 07:01 AM	I didn't realiz AGoT was D20...LOL, I assumed it was a board game of some sort. And thinking on it, yeah, I guess I can see why all the situations in the books would be hard to represent mechanically...
Hochiu 04-22-07, 01:27 PM	That, and A Song of Ice and Fire is fairly low magic, all things considered. You would have the same problem representing it correctly as they did with the d20 conversion of the Wheel of Time, or like the d20 conversion of Legend of the Five Rings. d20 system doesn't lend itself to low-magic settings well without massive conversion rules.