looking for a vile manipulative race [Archive] - Wizards Community

looking for a vile manipulative race [Archive] - Wizards Community

Post/Author/DateTime Post
ishpumalibu
12-09-07, 07:56 PM I'm making a campaign where the mayor of the main city has either been killed and replaced covertly, pretending to be the same guy, or maybe possessed. I don't really know what race would be the best for it and was hoping you guys had some ideas. I'm looking for a race that would have no problem framing people throughout the city just to have executions going for his own entertainment. thanks for your help.
inthesto
12-09-07, 08:45 PM Doppelgangers
ishpumalibu
12-09-07, 09:11 PM thanks, i didn't have my regular mm with me and so i didn't know if they were evils or not.
Space_Dragon
12-09-07, 11:52 PM Dopplegangers tend toward true neutral, but can be of any alignment. Back in 2E, we had an awesome adventure fighting a nest of evil dopplegangers.

Anyway, some other possibilities:

Mind flayers (MM1)
Yuan Ti (MM1)
Vampires (MM1)
Demons (MM1 and FC1)
Devils (MM1 and FC2)
Dragon (MM1)
Lycanthrope (MM1)
Avolakias (MM2)
Yak Folk (MM2)
Tsochari (Lords of Madness)
GoriceXII
12-10-07, 08:31 AM Or you could use a Yuan-Ti/demon combo. The Yuan Ti, remember, are a psionic race and evil; they are manipulators par excellence.
Amaril
12-10-07, 12:02 PM rakshashas and changelings can work, too, but doppelgangers are your best bet.
Kelmourne
12-10-07, 12:28 PM drow are pretty devious but im not sure if they're what you're looking for. or you know, you could just use humans.
Lelander_the_L
12-10-07, 08:38 PM A kalastar (spelling?) Quori nightmare. Just throwing that out there, In the Ebberon campaign settings. Psionic prestige class, very powerful. actually any psionic race being a quori nightmare if you want a real challenge for your party, the class is very tough on melee classes.
toucanbuzz
12-11-07, 04:45 PM This is right up a Rakshasa's alley. Rakshasa's are sadistic spirits capable of assuming another's shape and Detecting Thoughts as needed, making them very capable of assuming another person's identity (+19 disguise when acting). As a 7th level sorcerer, you can give them what spells they need to keep up the charade (or even add levels if you're needing a really high level adversary).

Since Rakshasa's would enjoy manipulating others to obtain wealth and see the fleshies squirm as they are framed (he might even cast "Charm Person" and "Suggestion" to get them to confess publicly), they fit in well with your setting.
darksamuari
12-13-07, 01:55 AM Please consider the most vile, despicable race. The one race that your players will have no problem fearing and loathing at the same time. I speak only of

The YakFolk! (http://www.wizards.com/dnd/images/mm2_gallery/88268_620_126.jpg)
Orchomenos
12-14-07, 12:09 PM An Hag covent. With Veil, they can look like anyone. Each one could have replace a key personality in this village. Throw in additional NPCs with shameful habits, and it'll be a fun to investigate who's really who!

Post/Author/DateTime	Post
ishpumalibu 12-09-07, 07:56 PM	I'm making a campaign where the mayor of the main city has either been killed and replaced covertly, pretending to be the same guy, or maybe possessed. I don't really know what race would be the best for it and was hoping you guys had some ideas. I'm looking for a race that would have no problem framing people throughout the city just to have executions going for his own entertainment. thanks for your help.
inthesto 12-09-07, 08:45 PM	Doppelgangers
ishpumalibu 12-09-07, 09:11 PM	thanks, i didn't have my regular mm with me and so i didn't know if they were evils or not.
Space_Dragon 12-09-07, 11:52 PM	Dopplegangers tend toward true neutral, but can be of any alignment. Back in 2E, we had an awesome adventure fighting a nest of evil dopplegangers. Anyway, some other possibilities: Mind flayers (MM1) Yuan Ti (MM1) Vampires (MM1) Demons (MM1 and FC1) Devils (MM1 and FC2) Dragon (MM1) Lycanthrope (MM1) Avolakias (MM2) Yak Folk (MM2) Tsochari (Lords of Madness)
GoriceXII 12-10-07, 08:31 AM	Or you could use a Yuan-Ti/demon combo. The Yuan Ti, remember, are a psionic race and evil; they are manipulators par excellence.
Amaril 12-10-07, 12:02 PM	rakshashas and changelings can work, too, but doppelgangers are your best bet.
Kelmourne 12-10-07, 12:28 PM	drow are pretty devious but im not sure if they're what you're looking for. or you know, you could just use humans.
Lelander_the_L 12-10-07, 08:38 PM	A kalastar (spelling?) Quori nightmare. Just throwing that out there, In the Ebberon campaign settings. Psionic prestige class, very powerful. actually any psionic race being a quori nightmare if you want a real challenge for your party, the class is very tough on melee classes.
toucanbuzz 12-11-07, 04:45 PM	This is right up a Rakshasa's alley. Rakshasa's are sadistic spirits capable of assuming another's shape and Detecting Thoughts as needed, making them very capable of assuming another person's identity (+19 disguise when acting). As a 7th level sorcerer, you can give them what spells they need to keep up the charade (or even add levels if you're needing a really high level adversary). Since Rakshasa's would enjoy manipulating others to obtain wealth and see the fleshies squirm as they are framed (he might even cast "Charm Person" and "Suggestion" to get them to confess publicly), they fit in well with your setting.
darksamuari 12-13-07, 01:55 AM	Please consider the most vile, despicable race. The one race that your players will have no problem fearing and loathing at the same time. I speak only of The YakFolk! (http://www.wizards.com/dnd/images/mm2_gallery/88268_620_126.jpg)
Orchomenos 12-14-07, 12:09 PM	An Hag covent. With Veil, they can look like anyone. Each one could have replace a key personality in this village. Throw in additional NPCs with shameful habits, and it'll be a fun to investigate who's really who!