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Delfedd 03-25-07, 07:50 PM	As we have said in the Second thread, (http://boards1.wizards.com/showthread.php?t=808032) a lot of the post is being taken up by Out of Character questions. Some people think it is wasting space, and others are getting angry. http://img484.imageshack.us/img484/4868/locvl7.png
riverrock 03-25-07, 09:16 PM	Getting Domains. There has been some confusion about getting domains, so I am going to describe exactly how the process works. When you post an action that you feel warrants a domain, say the domain in your post. (ex. Apollo, god of light, teaches bardic arts to the people of the world, and asks for the music domain at the end of his post.) If you have completed a series of actions that you feel warrant a domain, post OOC with a brief explanation. (ex. Tiamat, goddess of dragons, has taken several actions that have culminated in the extermination of the elven race. She posts OOC asking for the hatred domain.) If you get the domain, I will inform you of such. If you do not get the domain, I will tell you as well. Keep in mind that you can get any domain available, it just might take some extra work/different action, especially if the domain in question already exists. (ex. Hephaestus possess the fire domain. Brigid, goddess of crafts, creates salamanders to serve her, and requests the fire domain. She does not get the domain because the domain already exists, and her action does not completely relate to fire. However, she can still get the domain by performing more fire based activities.) One final note, the create concept action will not always get you a domain. In fact, I would prefer to give out domains based on role-playing. It can get you a domain, but not always so please do not abuse it. If the action you are taking can be construed as something else, such as teach populus, take that action instead. If you have a question about domains or my not giving you one, please pm me instead of posting on the thread. If I make a decision about a domain, you need to accept it, because you can always get the domain later. Do not attempt to award yourselves domains. Thank you. Summary of the Lords of Creation Year 1, Month 1 Absaul-Rote created the universe. Chaos and Law came into existence as a side-effect. Law manifested as an old soldier, the god Amon. Chaos manifested as a panther-headed man, the god Ahuizotl. Amon created a concept of nurturing. Ahuizotl then took his ax and nearly cleft the world in two, forming a chasm of volcanos. Amon then created a weave for divine casters. Ahuizotl then created a great jungle in the world. Year 1, Month 2 Kur-ah came into existence in the volcano range. He invented a system of runic writing, and created a high mountain peak. Ahuizotl cut a hole in the sky, creating a portal (the first moon) to the plane of light. Arteheyn formed from the new rivers of the world, and created animals. She then created a small garden out of the jungle. Morintu came into existence, and bound himself to the universe. He created the concept of justice as well. Absaul-Rote wept over the scar in the earth, filling the world with water. Kur-ah then created the sun and the concept of prophecies. Year 1, Month 3 Kur-ah created the sun and the concept of prophecies. Morintu then created a plane of air and filled it with a new species, the vaati or wind dukes. The vaati eventually created cities throughout the plane of elemental air. Amon created a new race, the lung dragons. Arteheyn created tritons and organized them into family groups. Ry’theal, the god of the sun, came into existence and created a system of ley lines that produced arcane magic. Absaul-Rote created a calendar and a marshland for Arteheyn’s creatures. Year 1, Month 4 Amon created a realm for the dead, the plane of Haven. Arteheyn filled the oceans with marine life and made recognizable weather patterns. Kur-ah felt great pain, and created the underdark. To soothe his pain, Kur-ah manipulated the weather, creating seasons. The god of day, Akhier, and the god of night, Kersys, came into existence. Lexius, the new god of magic, carved out a plateau with his maul, and populated it with ezera, a new species. Morintu manipulated the weather, creating a land of snow and ice far in the north. He then used his chains to bind himself to the ley lines. Rytheal was angered when a part of the land was cut off from the sun, and when he discovered Morintu had done this and taken the leylines, he attacked him. Year 1, Month 5 Arteheyn, Morintu, and Kur-ah worked together to create dragons, the heralds of the gods. The god of day created a giant tree. Glaciesco, the god of winter, found a dragon egg and made the newborn dragon his herald. Morintu met Arteheyn and they begat a new god, who would one day be the goddess of the ocean. He then chose two dragons, a silver and a gold, as his heralds. Kyrinian, the god of summer, was created, and he brought forth a new moon made of silver and earth. Kur-ah chose two dragons to be his heralds as well. Arteheyn created coatls in the image of Morintu, and to act as her heralds. Kersys, wishing to gain more influence, became female and begat a god of necromancy with Amon. Amon then created merfolk. Absaul-Rote then vanished from the world.
d24478667 03-25-07, 09:28 PM	I have no idea what provoked it; if it was unprovoked, I personally would not like him to be in the experiment. If it wasn't, I myself would like to know to judge, though that is not my responsibility.
ewancummins 03-25-07, 10:15 PM	I would like to apologize for this whole mess. Walker pmed me with the idea of me making a new god, one he could play. I wrongly assumed he was on the waiting list. I broke protocol. I did not write in the request, as I thought walker had obtained your prior consent. I will edit my post, quit the thread, or otherwise do whatever you guys [the refs ] feel is appropriate. This is fixable, just like the early creation of humans[ three times! ] is fixable, I hope. Again, I am very sorry. I thought I was doing walker a favor, but I see now how I screwed up. Very sorry. -Ewan
Janusunaj 03-25-07, 10:24 PM	I don't think that dear Arteheyn should get the stick. You shouldn't feel like you should be punished. This is D&D. This isn't Nazi Germany.
ewancummins 03-25-07, 10:33 PM	I edited my post to remove the entire god creation action. I totally renounce the whole thing. Damn, I feel silly. If none of the referees have any objection, I will continue playing. I'd really like to do so. I will have Arteheyn bear more children, but in the future I will always alert the proper referee, and will NOT predesignate anyone to play the new gods[ I think Walker and I had some kind of misunderstanding- I thought he was up next and I was just bringing him in].
Ivellius 03-25-07, 11:20 PM	Yeah, it's okay, really. I noticed that rule about inviting people to fill slots like that, but since we changed threads, Riverrock's been in charge of deities. It's his job, but there's no reason for Arteheyn to go. Besides, I wasn't even on the topic when all of that happened, so I'm none the wiser. Now, I decided to bring this up because it's an out of character comment, but I don't like the latest rule for increasing your divine rank with 3 AP. First, I doubt anyone's going to end up being a lesser deity with this system, and second, it's just as inexpensive as gaining action points--but this time you get to go up a tier in the world of the gods as well. You'd get an extra AP for free like that. I'm not necessarily opposed to some kind of mechanic for advancing DR, but I think it needs to be a lot more expensive. Maybe you can do something once you top off your level at your current rank? Then again, I'm sure I'm biased because I got to be a Greater Deity. :D
Delfedd 03-26-07, 06:20 AM	I don't think that's how it works. I think that it increased your divine rank (Eg Divine Rank 11) by one (Divine rank 12.) This means you have to use 30ish points to go from intermediate to greater... I think. If that's not how it works, then I apologize. As for the greater deity business, I think that it means that we can't become the supreme deity through this system, although we can grow up to one DvR of that level.
Evil DM Mk3 03-26-07, 06:35 AM	The 3AP is indeed for one Divine RANK, not tier. (Zak consulted with me before putting the rule up, yay my opinions matter!) You also should abvoid going above greater deity as overdieties CANNOT sponser clerics ect. When did you last bump into a cleric of the Lady of Pain after all. As for who shoudl leave, CODSWHALLOP! You all made a commiment to everyone else playing to stick with it when you joined!! Tis and Fish I say yoou stick at it by jove or I'll drop you in your traks hurumhhh! (last bit done in red faced great white hunter blithering for comic effect)
zzakk2to2 03-26-07, 11:20 AM	MK is moslty right ecxept you cant even get to overdieties if you tried.
Evil DM Mk3 03-26-07, 11:31 AM	I said "should avoid"
zzakk2to2 03-26-07, 11:36 AM	Oh good point but still there is no mechanic that allows getting a higher rank then greater unless you started with it. Also because riverrock apears not to be quit and 2 threads is alot for anyone person how about delfed be the person who controls the ooc thread.
Destrieth 03-26-07, 01:12 PM	Yeah, seeing as I'm a Lesser Deity myself (God of Wrath), I'm a big fan of spending APs to bring your deity stature up some notches. I think 3 AP is hefty enough considering I only get 3 per turn as a lesser deity.
zzakk2to2 03-26-07, 01:14 PM	it cost 3 because you get an AP when you go to the next rank and evolve form does the same thing but only it so technicly it should cost more.
Ivellius 03-26-07, 10:21 PM	Ok, that makes more sense about raising DR. The example made me think you'd just go up a tier for 3 AP, which seemed low compared to the evolve self.
Anuvrix 03-27-07, 11:49 AM	Alright, I posted my diety a week or 2 ago, and im ready to post now, seeing as there is no objection to my being here. Ill start this turn
Evil DM Mk3 03-27-07, 11:53 AM	Which deity was that??
zzakk2to2 03-27-07, 11:54 AM	after all cant help you if we dont know who you are.
Ivellius 03-27-07, 07:58 PM	He was the necromancy god. Guess he should hurry and post before Thursday arrives.
Evil DM Mk3 03-28-07, 12:19 PM	Yes please do!! Also where is the list of domains open? I can't find it now:embarrass Plus the clocks have gone forward where I am so expect the turn to change about 1 hour sooner form now on. Also next weeks change may be a little late as I will ahve to borrow a PC as I will be at real home not university home.
riverrock 03-28-07, 09:18 PM	Pact is the only domain officially open, but magic-school related domains will probably open soon-as soon as I can figure exactly which ones apply.
Evil DM Mk3 03-29-07, 05:15 PM	A new month has now begun.
Delfedd 03-29-07, 10:36 PM	Now that a sorta kinda war between mortals has broken out, we should figure out how to solve these conflicts. We can't very well just say "my guys wipe out your guys," can we? that just wouldn't work. Would it?
Evil DM Mk3 03-30-07, 04:27 AM	I am fairly sure that we can all agree that the following guidliens seem logical: 1. No destroying other races without that races controler saying so. 2. Try and reach an out of game PM agreemtn as to what is likely to happen, not nessissarily at first but later when things need winding up. 3. Direct divine or semi-divine (such as avatars and heralds) should be given a LOT of weighting. 4. In fantasy settings most wars continue ad infinitum anyway (look at goblins and dwarves, elves and drow, mind flayers and Gythinkinkinii (spelling?) Orcs and well, everyone...)
Delfedd 03-30-07, 06:23 AM	Speaking of Avatars, I've been looking at the rules for them Here (http://www.d20srd.org/srd/divine/divineAbilitiesFeats.htm#avatar) Is this what we're using? Because If so, I suggest we use the following ruleset. Avatars act as another deity under the control of the God who creates them. They have half the power of the total deity. Every turn that a God wants to use an avatar, he must spend one AP as a focus. If that Avatar is destroyed, the player loses that AP for the next two months. I think that this makes avatar's slightly more balenced. Also, how do heralds fit into things?
riverrock 03-30-07, 03:45 PM	2 new deities are available. Intermediate deity of War and Hatred Intermediate deity of Pact and Oracle. If you are on the waiting list and are interested in these positions, please pm me.
Evil DM Mk3 03-30-07, 03:45 PM	Heralds are creatures chosen by gods to deliver messidges. Dragons have special powers in this regard in this setting, but otherwise there is not specialnes.
Delfedd 03-30-07, 10:02 PM	As a note, Akhier calculated his advancement incorrectly. He should gain three divine ranks instead of full steps in level.
Evil DM Mk3 03-31-07, 03:16 AM	Yes, going divien rank is hard otehrwise all gods would soar to greater. I do not intend for Kur-ah to gian dinve ranks or levels, however he doesn't really need them.
ewancummins 04-02-07, 04:42 PM	Artheyn may be drifting towards a good alignment. Her actions lately have been taken largely to prevent needless death and suffering, and to help others. She doesn't care about law versus chaos[ she's slightly chaotic in her whims , yet loves Morintu- who is supremely lawful] but is increasingly opposed to the evil represented by Tthe False Dragon, whom she mistrusts.
d24478667 04-03-07, 12:29 PM	Forgot about this.. can you make Glaciesos symbol a white rose, on a large snowflake?
Ivellius 04-03-07, 02:06 PM	You know, everyone discriminates against the evil god. I'm just wondering: why wouldn't Arteheyn approach Kakavindus and see what he has to say about evil? It's just a thought, I know, but it seems like it'd be fair. After all, I haven't done anything too horrible--yet. Well, there was an evil-aligned plane, and the yugoloths, and now turning some of a deity's creations to evil purposes, but at least I haven't killed/attacked any of the other gods.
Return of the Flumph 04-03-07, 02:41 PM	You know, everyone discriminates against the evil god. I'm just wondering: why wouldn't Arteheyn approach Kakavindus and see what he has to say about evil? It's just a thought, I know, but it seems like it'd be fair. After all, I haven't done anything too horrible--yet. Well, there was an evil-aligned plane, and the yugoloths, and now turning some of a deity's creations to evil purposes, but at least I haven't killed/attacked any of the other gods. I think its mostly the fact that Kakavindus is always in everyone else's business and just TOO friendly. It makes him seem really shifty.
d24478667 04-03-07, 03:41 PM	And because he is called the false dragon, revealing he lies but is telling the truth, therefore causing a paradox. Quite like asking the prince of lies if he is lying.
Evil DM Mk3 04-03-07, 04:26 PM	What fascinated me was the hard line Amon took over good/evil. Take no prisoners that one! On another note, why is Morintu surprised that a god of chaos changed his mind so quickly?
Delfedd 04-03-07, 06:16 PM	Morintu isn't used to this. He is still thinking of them as enemies. Because he's lawful
Delfedd 04-03-07, 07:02 PM	Hey. I figured I should talk to you, because you're the ref. Morintu here. Just wondering about an idea that I had recently. Often, especially in greek mythology, demigods gain more power by completing a quest for their God. Here's my idea. I burn 4 AP to create a god, although for flavor, the god would have been a mortal who I grant ascension to. This god would be a Demi-God. However, I would give him a quest. Upon completion, the Demi-god would ascend to an intermediate God. He would burn 1 AP (or more; he's just required to spend one.) a round. To complete the quest, he has to use double the AP as it would take a full god. This represents traveling around the world, gathering followers, armies, and resources (like treasure) For example, if I wanted the champion to... I dunno, slay the dragons for some reason, we would rule that destroying a race would be... i dunno, four AP for a god to do this. So the champion, We'll call him Hercules, would have to save up 8 AP. Now, Hercules could decide "I need more AP. I'm going to grow another set of arms" and that would be 3 AP. Only his quest is doubled. What do you guys think?
Return of the Flumph 04-03-07, 07:15 PM	Hey. I figured I should talk to you, because you're the ref. Morintu here. Just wondering about an idea that I had recently. Often, especially in greek mythology, demigods gain more power by completing a quest for their God. Here's my idea. I burn 4 AP to create a god, although for flavor, the god would have been a mortal who I grant ascension to. This god would be a Demi-God. However, I would give him a quest. Upon completion, the Demi-god would ascend to an intermediate God. He would burn 1 AP (or more; he's just required to spend one.) a round. To complete the quest, he has to use double the AP as it would take a full god. This represents traveling around the world, gathering followers, armies, and resources (like treasure) For example, if I wanted the champion to... I dunno, slay the dragons for some reason, we would rule that destroying a race would be... i dunno, four AP for a god to do this. So the champion, We'll call him Hercules, would have to save up 8 AP. Now, Hercules could decide "I need more AP. I'm going to grow another set of arms" and that would be 3 AP. Only his quest is doubled. What do you guys think? He'd start out as a hero god (DR 0), not a demi. Otherwise good.
Delfedd 04-03-07, 07:19 PM	ok. So is this now an option?
Ivellius 04-03-07, 07:25 PM	And because he is called the false dragon, revealing he lies but is telling the truth, therefore causing a paradox. Quite like asking the prince of lies if he is lying. Well, I can see it being not very lawful, but the big K thinks he'd look a little silly flying around in his true form. He likes dragons and likes to fly around as one. At least he's honest about (this) deceit. Although the shifty thing I can get. That's completely understandable. And Amon's reaction makes a lot of sense to me, considering he's pretty much a paladin. I just like to complain.
d24478667 04-03-07, 08:08 PM	Oh, I was joking around; just pointing out the paradox.
Kirtanus_Albacron 04-04-07, 09:55 AM	Just to let you all know, I have completed the map as much as I could( The only problem is I don't know where the Vaati cities are placed and where to forests go), but when I try to insert an image it say to load it from an URL, and the picture won't load onto my freeweb's page. Any suggestions?
Delfedd 04-04-07, 02:40 PM	Try using http://www.imageshack.us You don't even need an account. What's the word on artifacts? Perhaps creating an artifact grants more AP to it's wielder when performing certain tasks, set down by his creator. You have 3 points to For example, Orcus creates a rod. This rod lets him do these tasks using fewer AP. He cannot reduce a 1 to a zero, and cannot use AP on level 1 tasks. Leveling up and Evolving cannot be used with artifacts. Interacting with another god 2 AP (1 less AP) Creating Undead 2 AP (1 less AP) Creating portals 2 AP (1 less AP) What do you think? the numbers should be tweaked for Divine Rank.
Kirtanus_Albacron 04-04-07, 06:56 PM	Thanks Delfedd, it wasn't originally loading, so I then printed the picture, scanned it, and then loaded it on imageshack. It is small probably because I scanned it. Here it is: http://img86.imageshack.us/img86/9981/scan0001kc8.th.jpg (http://img86.imageshack.us/my.php?image=scan0001kc8.jpg) It will enlarge if you click in it, and I need people to tell me where their cites are placed. I also need to know where forests are.
Delfedd 04-04-07, 07:16 PM	I think that it was much bigger. Lots more stuff I mean.
Kirtanus_Albacron 04-04-07, 07:17 PM	I actually made it bigger than the original map, maybe it just appears to be smaller because of the small image size, as I said.
Delfedd 04-04-07, 07:23 PM	No, sorry, that's not what I meant. What I meant was that it looks like there is not enough land. Sorry, I know i'm not doing it...
Kirtanus_Albacron 04-04-07, 07:38 PM	Oh, well, I was just going off of the original map.
Delfedd 04-04-07, 07:57 PM	*Shrug* I guess It's just hard to see.
jamvid 04-04-07, 08:39 PM	Pholtone's plains for the Athachs is from the westernmost mountains (and a little to the south), to the rift. I don't know exactly where the forest Arteheyn made is, but it is near that.
Delfedd 04-04-07, 08:44 PM	The main city of the Vaati is in the far north. Like... really far north. There is also a portal to the plane of air there. The Vaati have five other cities currently. They have one near the rift, one near the southern ocean, one on the eastern plane and one on the southern peninsula thing.
Ivellius 04-04-07, 11:39 PM	My forest (Daskotan) was around L-1 and 2 on the original map. Right on the western edge of the continent, even west of the big mountain. On the original map there was a small inland sea that kind of separated it and the mountain. It's where the Worgs and Sea Giants, who live in that bay, hang out. Does that help?
Evil DM Mk3 04-05-07, 05:35 PM	It is now month 9.
riverrock 04-05-07, 05:37 PM	Several new deity positions are open. No one on the official waiting list has replied to me, so if you know any one who would be intersted in joining, please have them pm me.
Kirtanus_Albacron 04-05-07, 06:58 PM	I will post the new map next Wednesday, and then every Wednesday after that. And, jamvid, are there any Athatch cities or settlements?
Return of the Flumph 04-05-07, 07:38 PM	What just happened with the Ezera is kind of lame. How would their creator know instantly whatever Kakivindus told them? How come Morintu didn't notice it was Kakavindus when he did the same to the wind dukes? Let the evil guy do his job.
jamvid 04-05-07, 08:38 PM	I will post the new map next Wednesday, and then every Wednesday after that. And, jamvid, are there any Athatch cities or settlements? No,they live in nomadic tribes, or any settlement would be too small to bother putting in a world map.
Delfedd 04-06-07, 12:10 AM	What just happened with the Ezera is kind of lame. How would their creator know instantly whatever Kakivindus told them? How come Morintu didn't notice it was Kakavindus when he did the same to the wind dukes? Let the evil guy do his job. I totally agree. Although it sounds dumb, I believe lexius is godmoding.
Destrieth 04-06-07, 12:17 AM	Darrius agrees with Morintu's arm-choppin'. And I agree on the godmoding issue, though I think it's amusing we're playing a forum game where we're all gods and throwing accusations of godmoding.
Evil DM Mk3 04-06-07, 04:47 AM	First, I feel that any rule for artifacts would be going inot too much detail. Second I comend Morintu for taking a freindly line over this and Lexus, sorry but you are out of order here. You are not omnisient, there are such deiaties who may be considered so, but not you. Oh and there is no need to put minataur setements on the map either.
ewancummins 04-06-07, 08:33 AM	Why myconids? Mushroom men with super zombie producing and psychadelic spores? C'mon that's so weird that it just plain rules. I HEART myconids. Besides, option two was silly treants. I think we've seen enough of those....
Delfedd 04-06-07, 08:54 AM	Fair enough. Punishment is probably an artifact. So we'll just say having an artifact kind of helps with combat and things.
Kirtanus_Albacron 04-06-07, 12:39 PM	...
Illeveun Bloodblaze 04-06-07, 03:03 PM	Whoops, I just realised that they were not part of my portfolio. You know how gods know what is going on with their portfolio, so that's how I thought I knew what was going on with them. Also, Lexius was on his plane after he finished his yelling at Kakavindus.
Ivellius 04-06-07, 06:35 PM	Eh, so now what do we do about all of that?
Delfedd 04-07-07, 11:08 AM	I intercepted you before you could get away. Happens all the time here.
Delfedd 04-09-07, 08:15 PM	Ok. We're having more and more combat. Mostly it is minor Gods attacking stronger Gods. You'd think that Stronger gods would have an advantage, correct? Lets think of it in terms of characters. The level gap is 5-10 levels. In a one on one combat between characters (in normal D&D), the one character would not have a chance. It's not much of a combat until more deities are involved in the combat.
Destrieth 04-09-07, 08:18 PM	I think y'all need to come to some sort of agreement before you go about just sundering people in twain. I think the 'attack another god' option was originally put in to allow a more flavorful type of creation, not for petty squabbles. I think before anyone attacks anyone else y'all should decide privately the effects. Because it looks to me this is going to become a big mess of "I attack this guy" and then "I dodge and attack back". And this is coming from the God of Wrath here. I just think y'all should maybe just come to some conclusion that doesn't involve wailing on eachother because someone said something bad about you or tried to steal some creations.
Delfedd 04-09-07, 08:30 PM	That's a good reading. Who's for a ruling on this? Interact with another god is more for creative creation. Attacks are possible still, but are more in character things. Morintu seems to also be prone to outbursts... Next time he acts angrily he too will most likely gain fury Does this apply now?
Destrieth 04-09-07, 08:55 PM	I'd say yeah, Morintu is definitely the furious sort now. I'm just wondering how I should stand in all this.
riverrock 04-09-07, 08:58 PM	Do you want fury? Do you feel like you deserve fury? I just figured that Morintu's action's weren't really an outburst, exactly- they seemed planned out. On the issue of deities acting each other, if there is a dispute over what should happen, it is most likely the area of zzakk2to2-he is the referee. Personally, I think that morintu could handily take either Ry'theal or Lexius-he far outranks them and he created an artifact specifically for use in combat. And one minor note-my deity description supercedes evil_dm's. If something is wrong in his, check mine before you make note of it. (Janusunaj, I already updated Amon's stats before you posted.)
Ivellius 04-09-07, 11:28 PM	To second that, I just wanted to say that I was looking at my stats earlier today and couldn't figure out why they weren't what I was sure they were. And then I realized that I wasn't down on riverrock's section.
Evil DM Mk3 04-10-07, 03:43 AM	First I will get my bits updated soon. Second, I fell that attack another dieity is being used fairly here, so long as everyone doing it is happy with spending 3AP and making life longe enmies over this. If everyone is happy to behave in such an impulsive manner then this is EXACTLY how it is ment to be.
Return of the Flumph 04-10-07, 02:51 PM	Just so we're all clear on this: Darrius is NOT lawful good.
Destrieth 04-10-07, 02:53 PM	I could definitely argue against that. Darrius isn't a paladin. I'm trying my best to stay out of this conflict directly. Can I not spur both sides on to fight to their fullest? Or does LG=Paladin? Because I'm sure I didn't put myself as a paladin.
Evil DM Mk3 04-10-07, 04:23 PM	EDIT: Found a much better Idea, so no permition needed.
Janusunaj 04-10-07, 04:28 PM	Hm. As long as I get halflings, I don't care.
Kirtanus_Albacron 04-10-07, 05:43 PM	I have a question. Would continuing the fight against Morintu count as another Attack Diety action?
Delfedd 04-10-07, 06:20 PM	Second, I fell that attack another dieity is being used fairly here, so long as everyone doing it is happy with spending 3AP and making life longe enmies over this. If everyone is happy to behave in such an impulsive manner then this is EXACTLY how it is meant to be. :D
ewancummins 04-10-07, 08:46 PM	It's cool that gods are duking it out. A mythology needs some of that. Of course, Arteheyn will still try and stop it, if she can.
andinel 04-10-07, 09:33 PM	I'm afraid that I don't really have time for this anymore. I can't really find the time to keep up with everything going on in LoC AND post on a regular basis, since I have work to do for school. For now, is it okay if I temporarily take a leave of absence and give my deity's (Kersys) powers to someone else?
Delfedd 04-10-07, 10:17 PM	Maybe your god can take a leave of absense. Go traveling about the multiverse or something.
Janusunaj 04-10-07, 10:58 PM	Since I'm married to you that might work if you gave it t ome.
Delfedd 04-10-07, 11:16 PM	Hm... You really like power, don't you? Anywho, how are we going to do alignment change? some people are sliding towards evil, and more of them are racing towards good.
Destrieth 04-11-07, 01:56 PM	I think alignment change should be voluntary unless someone is not only blatantly going against alignment but is also, I don't know, mechanically affecting the game. It's one thing to just talk about doing evil; it's quite another to actually perform it.
riverrock 04-11-07, 08:27 PM	Just so everyone knows, what Kirtanus Albacron said is correct, he does have 3 AP left (which he just spent.) He can now get the domain of Protection, if he wants it.
jamvid 04-11-07, 10:22 PM	I think alignment change should be voluntary unless someone is not only blatantly going against alignment but is also, I don't know, mechanically affecting the game. It's one thing to just talk about doing evil; it's quite another to actually perform it. I think it should be decided by our recedent ref when exactly a god's alignment changes (barring of course voluntary change).
Evil DM Mk3 04-12-07, 04:02 PM	New month, new rows!
d24478667 04-12-07, 06:15 PM	Am I correct that I have 8 AP now? I had base three, evolved, and didn't do anything last turn, and got the new AP. So, unless I missed some limit, I have 8, correct?
Evil DM Mk3 04-12-07, 06:27 PM	Think so. Um guys, 1 are we all putting our dieaties in our sigs? and 2 is that wierd?
d24478667 04-12-07, 06:42 PM	I know that Delfedd and I have; and who cares if it is weird?
Delfedd 04-12-07, 07:14 PM	http://boards1.wizards.com/showpost.php?p=11481590&postcount=2 There's the original map. It doesn't have most of the things on it, but you should check it out.
d24478667 04-12-07, 07:40 PM	Sweet, I used that to make a fast Mock-Up of Glacieso's part of Ty'Dyw:http://i122.photobucket.com/albums/o262/D24478667/GlaciesosRealm.jpg I'll try the other parts now.
Evil DM Mk3 04-12-07, 07:41 PM	Sigh, why did I chose this moment to go into an identiy crisis and give up tring to be peacemaker for a while? Does Rethyal have a death wish?! I want to council wisdom and discression here, but as mentioned above, personal identity and emotional crisis! :rolleyes:
Delfedd 04-12-07, 07:51 PM	:D I guess poor planning? How old are our dragons? How old is the world?
d24478667 04-12-07, 07:52 PM	Oh yeah, Evil DM, does Kur-Ah's mountain have any distinguishing features besides the sides?
Evil DM Mk3 04-12-07, 07:57 PM	Montain=no not really, it is the genric meta-mountain. There are enterances dotted about, the maze-portal is one, the dragon entrance is another, half way up the infinate side. Dragon age=Well I guestimated that Great wyrm would be about month three year two when they where first made, assuming that holds that was month three so a total of 13 months till that age, of which we have seen seven... Dragons become greater wyrms at 1201 years, making the dragons about 650 at the end of this turn, 550 at the start, so old-very old. Conviently that pegs the deific month at about 100 years. 92 is teh exact fugure but that assumes that they change on the dot so 100 years=celectial monuth looks about right. So the world is currently in it's 10th centuary.
Delfedd 04-12-07, 07:59 PM	That's cool. This Puts things more in perspective now.
Evil DM Mk3 04-12-07, 08:00 PM	kinda cool for random fact I put together, comign out at 100 liek that... Of course this not offical, just numbers bandided around.
d24478667 04-12-07, 08:27 PM	How's this? http://i122.photobucket.com/albums/o262/D24478667/Kur-Ah.png I think the dragon's aren't that good though..
Delfedd 04-12-07, 08:32 PM	Psst... I threw him out the side with the not infinite. Dude... that's so trippy.
Evil DM Mk3 04-12-07, 08:36 PM	Good basic pic, but the mountain is full of rooms and the top is flat as that is where the table is and the maze/portal is near teh bottom. It is mostly just a funky portal. Quick banding around of numbers before I go to bed... One of our days = 4 celestial days = 14.29 mortal years. One of our hours = 4 celestial hours = 7.14 mortal months. One of our minutes = 4 celestial mintues = 3 and a thrid mortal days. One mortal year = 6.72 celestial hours = 1.68 of our hours. One mortal day = 4.4 celestial minutes = 1.1 of our minutes. One round = 0.00115 of our seconds. (assumign a 365 day year, a 12 month year and a 28 day month. And yes I knw those nubmers don't add up right!) Now bed. Tired. Caffine shields failing, lethergy breach iminent, eject thought core!
Evil DM Mk3 04-13-07, 10:12 AM	I made a few boobs last night. But first the special dragon rules.(From the original thread) As dragons are born of divine energy (Ultimately Amon's in reality, but with big dollops of us three.) they are very adept at acting as deific heralds. Lesser and intermdiate deiaties may have a single draconic herald, greater deiaties two. For the supreime dude, what he wants, he keeps! Lesser deiaties heralds take their deiaties alignment regardless of color and stop aging at great wyrm. Intermediate and Greater deiteis' heralds also gain either celestial or fiendish templates and bonus hd after great wyrm to level out their CR at that of a Great Wyrm Gold. This ought to take no AP and be a kind of gerneic ability. It is also going to give dragons a fairly well defined place in the world. Right, dragons where made in month 5, but month 5 of year 2 is when the reach great wyrm so the rest of the calculations are right, but they are Old, being 400 right at the start and 500 at the end.
Delfedd 04-13-07, 03:07 PM	Also, Pholotone and I are in the middle of a war. In the middle of one. So whispering secrets about "Lets attack the minotaurs" won't do much yet.
Evil DM Mk3 04-13-07, 03:08 PM	WHA???
Delfedd 04-13-07, 03:10 PM	*Shrug* We're standing on the plain of battle. Some evil god said "Psst... Vaati... you should TOTALLY go attack the minotaurs. It'd be awesome."
Evil DM Mk3 04-13-07, 03:15 PM	Can't find that, which is good becasue that would be a very dumb move, by my judgement calculated to separeate him from you by attacking a netural party aligned against you oponents. See my notes on "the spirit of inocence", an idea shared by minataurs and centarus...
Delfedd 04-13-07, 03:28 PM	He then travels to the capitol of the Wind Dukes, egging them to war with the minotaurs. Whispering ideas into their minds. (guide populous Wind dukes 2pts) (four is from last turn) It wasn't Kakavindus. It was the orc war guy.
Evil DM Mk3 04-13-07, 03:30 PM	Thank you. Cracks knuckles, this is particulary effective when they are granate. does he have races yet?
Delfedd 04-13-07, 03:36 PM	Nope. I believe that was his first action. Oh... Actually, he's got a whole bunch of evil dragons under his banner. Remember, neither you nor me would know this.
Evil DM Mk3 04-13-07, 03:38 PM	Well you MIGHT. I am a bit otherwise ocupied ATM. What with acsidently makign the sky dry chunks of iron (why has no one referanced that?!?!?!?!) and all. Seeing the future bites, seeing alternative but now inacessable futures bites even more.
riverrock 04-13-07, 06:01 PM	3 deity slots are currently open Trickery (Lesser) Courage Illusion If any one wants to join, or knows someone who wants to join, please pm me.
Return of the Flumph 04-13-07, 08:47 PM	Finally did something with that Travel domain.
riverrock 04-13-07, 09:58 PM	Amon and Arteheyn aren't the only people with influence under the sea...
Return of the Flumph 04-13-07, 10:33 PM	Amon and Arteheyn aren't the only people with influence under the sea... They are the ones whose actions have troubled Glykllivar the most.
riverrock 04-13-07, 10:39 PM	That's understandable then. But why, exactly? (If you don't mind elaborating)
Return of the Flumph 04-13-07, 10:40 PM	That's understandable then. But why, exactly? (If you don't mind elaborating) Because Glykllivar is a selfish, paranoid *****.
riverrock 04-13-07, 10:41 PM	lol, that explains it.
Return of the Flumph 04-14-07, 12:38 AM	Delfedd- The souls of the Vaati, Lung, and Athachs who were killed by the fire are now in Glykllivar's plane. Or are you talking about the ones who die in battle?
riverrock 04-14-07, 12:40 AM	I'm guessing he is referring to the fact that all dead souls (other than the ones you collected) go to Amon's plane of haven. Or at least that's how i interpreted it.
Delfedd 04-14-07, 12:42 AM	I think i'm confused. or you are. I thought Amon had a son to take care of the dead? Also, he wants all his dead. He's going to be a bit mad at his daughter for taking the souls of his chosen people and making them fish people.
riverrock 04-14-07, 12:49 AM	No, Avnuk has jurisdiction over necromany, not death. Amon still has the death domain, and when he created haven he made it a paradise for the good dead. No one else has said anything about there planes being realms for the dead, unless i missed something. (but yes, having your followers turned into fish people is a pretty good reason to be angry.)
Delfedd 04-14-07, 12:59 AM	:D Unless of course I'm Cthulhu. Ia, Ia Morintu, ftaghn!
riverrock 04-14-07, 01:01 AM	that is not dead which can eternal lie and in strange aeons even death may die :coolcthul :coolcthul
Return of the Flumph 04-14-07, 01:31 AM	:D Unless of course I'm Cthulhu. Ia, Ia Morintu, ftaghn! You know, I've seriously thought of spending a few AP to give Glykllivar some :coolcthul tentacles.
Anuvrix 04-14-07, 08:55 AM	Ya, im not god of the dead, but any souls that die, and try to stick around for any reason at all, i take.
Return of the Flumph 04-14-07, 05:09 PM	Evil DM- Did I tell you that Kur-ah is more awesome than any published god I've seen in any DnD manual? I might have to use him in my campaigns.
Evil DM Mk3 04-14-07, 07:39 PM	:blush: Please do, but what is it exactly (I can never tell if my stuff is good/what bits ar) that is so good? Hang on I just realised I spend every AP with turn without Kur-ah realising it... lol Oh and it is pronounced Kur(roar/grouwn on the r)-(slight pause)ah(almost a sigh/breath)
Return of the Flumph 04-14-07, 07:51 PM	:blush: Please do, but what is it exactly (I can never tell if my stuff is good/what bits ar) that is so good? Hang on I just realised I spend every AP with turn without Kur-ah realising it... lol Oh and it is pronounced Kur(roar/grouwn on the r)-(slight pause)ah(almost a sigh/breath) I figured it was pronounced thus. I just think an oracular, commanding, and omni-benevolent volcano god who invented writing is awesome. I'm not particularly attached to his new aspect (what I'm guessing is his Chaotic Evil side, to balance out his usual Lawful Good behavior to give him his True Neutral alignment), so if I use him I will probably leave fire-chick-Kur-ah out. There's several others that I really like as well (Morintu and Amon being some of the firsts to come to mind). Once the three years are complete, I might even use this campaign setting unaltered.
Evil DM Mk3 04-14-07, 07:57 PM	Actually this is the Chaotic side, brought on by high levels of emotion, to balance the Lawful side. No god or evil here, just mediation. Remember also that the whole rain of fire thing was not deliberate. (Note how the Azer know they are "a celestial mistake", and don't care.)
Return of the Flumph 04-15-07, 01:27 AM	Where HAVE the souls of the nongood dead been going all this time?
riverrock 04-15-07, 01:54 AM	Maybe they're stuck on the Material plane.
Return of the Flumph 04-15-07, 01:54 AM	Maybe they're stuck on the Material plane. That can't be good. Can anyone say "imminent plague of undead?"
riverrock 04-15-07, 01:56 AM	Something tells me this will not end well.
Evil DM Mk3 04-15-07, 04:11 AM	Look it is well established DnD protocall that the souls of the dead go to either the plane of their god or an aligned plane. Neutral souls have a plethora of choices, evil souls just the one. I can't see why this would be differant.
riverrock 04-15-07, 12:23 PM	That was never established for this campaign. More to the point, most of the planes that have been created aren't specifically aligned, and not all of the gods have planes. The only god to ever claim any dead was Amon, who claimed all good souls when he created Haven. Anyway, this could actually be a good way to make the campaign setting more unique. What happened to the non-good souls? Are they stuck on the material plane or in the void? Did they simply cease to exist? What would people think about their gods neglecting to give them an after life? This could be "the month of Forgotten Souls." This isn't a problem; it's an oppurtunity.
Evil DM Mk3 04-15-07, 12:46 PM	Re-incarnation?
riverrock 04-15-07, 12:47 PM	Oooh, that's a good idea.:)
Delfedd 04-15-07, 01:02 PM	Ah... Morintu is going for the "I'm going to try to collect all the souls." But it's not going to work out so well. It'll be like he tries to grab them, and they just start falling between his fingers. At least until he gets a better system. Dude... the reincarnation thing could be a good character race if we make this an actual campaign setting. Like, the soulbred or something. A race which remembers their past.
Evil DM Mk3 04-15-07, 01:05 PM	When I get sane again I am so going for somthing too.
Delfedd 04-15-07, 01:15 PM	Oooh sanity. What a harsh misteress. I think that the fire mother should get madness. You know... like... if you worship the fire mother aspect of Kur-ah you'd get madness. Of course, there'd need to be a ballence thing.
Evil DM Mk3 04-15-07, 01:18 PM	Look how would you feel if somene turned all your emotion diles up past 13/10 and you had to deal with, um, can't say what, would ruin some fun I want to happen, you can try and find out o'course.
Delfedd 04-15-07, 01:22 PM	EDIT: Nothing I've got the pact for Enfermia now. Here is the pact of Enfermia 1.Enfermia is to be a plane of layers. Each deity who wishes to join will receive their own layer of the plane. It is a blank slate, like the beginning of the world. 2.Any applicant who is part of the TywDyw is rejected. 3.Any applicant who is voted out by more than half the Enfermian's cannot join. 4.Any race the Enfermian wishes to bring into Enfermia is to be reviewed. If it is too 5.Unfortunately, certain gods may wish to place chaos in the perfect world of Enfermia by doing things like destroying gravity, disallowing access to their area of Enfermia, or causing leaks of the void. Therefore, Morintu, or any other suitably lawful deity appointed by Morintu will review all major changes of the layer of Enfermia.
Anuvrix 04-15-07, 01:57 PM	If the souls are to be stuck on the material plane, then they're under my jurisdiction. Any undead or nonliving being still Non-living belongs to me.
Destrieth 04-15-07, 02:01 PM	You know the God of Necromancy hasn't been very necromancerish. You should get on that. The world has been very much lacking in zombies.
Delfedd 04-15-07, 02:02 PM	Fine. They might be your "domain," but I'm just going to take them from you. And then possibly kick you in the teeth if you resist.
Anuvrix 04-15-07, 02:04 PM	Lol. Have fun trying.
Destrieth 04-15-07, 02:11 PM	I don't think he'd have much of an issue considering the gap in DR.
Evil DM Mk3 04-15-07, 02:16 PM	And if you do it to him you do it to all other gods in the same situation...
Delfedd 04-15-07, 02:19 PM	Wouldn't forging hundreds of thousands of little chains to pull souls into a giant crystal take at least two AP?
Evil DM Mk3 04-15-07, 02:30 PM	Got to be create concept. This is Big man, he is now the collector of all souls!
d24478667 04-15-07, 03:02 PM	If I am correct, Glacieso is by the battlefield, so perhaps next turn he could interact with the warring gods.
Delfedd 04-15-07, 03:12 PM	That's right. Also, I'm ignoring the "Chain's of souls" and whatnot until he actually spends AP on it. THEN I'm going to flip out.
Evil DM Mk3 04-15-07, 03:16 PM	I am going to ignore it untill I am thinking straight, then I am either ging to get anoyed and loud, or anoyed and violent, depending on who I am.
Anuvrix 04-15-07, 05:52 PM	Right now, im just in the process of forging the chains, next round they will be complete and i will spend 3 ap on create concept when they become active. It only takes souls that are stuck on the material plane.
Return of the Flumph 04-15-07, 06:03 PM	Right now, im just in the process of forging the chains, next round they will be complete and i will spend 3 ap on create concept when they become active. It only takes souls that are stuck on the material plane. Which currently means everyone who isn't good aligned or an animal.
Evil DM Mk3 04-15-07, 06:04 PM	And many of us are busy with stuff... Like there is a war ging n for one thing.
Delfedd 04-15-07, 08:21 PM	And be assured, if Morintu sees you come in and take all the souls of all his people, he will break into your home plane and make you free his people.
Anuvrix 04-16-07, 08:10 AM	If he wants the souls of his people, have him create a plane where the souls of his people go when they die. I only get the souls because no one has taken the time to create a place for them to go.
Anuvrix 04-16-07, 08:18 AM	Plus, just because i take them, doesn't mean i cant give them away. For a minimal price.
Evil DM Mk3 04-16-07, 09:01 AM	WOOOT just came up with a way of me working out how do do this, yay. See you thursday!
Kirtanus_Albacron 04-16-07, 10:01 AM	I have a question: Is there a limit on how many non-dragon heralds a diety can have?
Evil DM Mk3 04-16-07, 02:18 PM	Historicaly and mythologicaly deiaties have A herald (or even they had another god as their herald). The dragon thing was an attempt to make them special and distinct in this world. But no, I don't think so.
riverrock 04-16-07, 07:25 PM	Considering that we have decided that altering a home plane cost no ap, i don't think it would be that difficult for a god to make his home plane open to his worshippers. It's just that no one other than Amon thougt to do this. Although I imagine they will start doing this pretty soon.
Delfedd 04-16-07, 07:41 PM	Plus, just because i take them, doesn't mean i cant give them away. For a minimal price. Fair enough. Define minimal. Also, if Morintu doesn't think it's minimal, he may decide that smashing your head in is a good payment.
riverrock 04-16-07, 07:49 PM	Also note that Morintu has maimed gods for offenses less than that. He could take down Anurvix with his eyes closed.
Ivellius 04-16-07, 08:03 PM	Hmm. I kind of figured that since I created Karkeri, the yugoloths would be taking in evil souls there. Was I mistaken, or should I have said something about it sooner?
riverrock 04-16-07, 08:06 PM	The only person to ever specifically say that their plane was for the dead was Amon...but it would be easy to alter Kakeri to take up the evil souls. Anurvix hasn't done anything yet.
Anuvrix 04-16-07, 08:14 PM	If Kakavindus names his plane destination for the evil souls, then he will get the evil ones that i have. Until he does, they are lost souls.
Anuvrix 04-16-07, 08:17 PM	Any one who wants some of the lost souls that i have, will have to come to me and make an offer. There is no price for a mortal soul.
riverrock 04-16-07, 08:19 PM	...What? You don't actually have any souls yet. And if there is no price for a mortal soul, than what are they offering on?
Anuvrix 04-16-07, 08:22 PM	If for example, you were to come to me to claim some of the lost souls from my domain, you would have to offer something as a trade. There is no numerical price for any soul. its all about haggling.
riverrock 04-16-07, 08:24 PM	But you don't have any power over any souls yet. You haven't spent ap to do so.
Anuvrix 04-16-07, 08:25 PM	As of 10:00 thursday, i will claim any souls not designated to go to a specific plane. Im just giving a warning. Some one should have specified Homes for souls earlier. I'm just reaping the benifits of other's Inaction. True Neutral at its best.
Anuvrix 04-16-07, 08:30 PM	Noone but Amon has spent any ap on claiming souls either. Im taking the leftovers from amon. Until some one spends ap to claim the souls, they are free game. Game that i will shoot and skin on thursday.
Aramil_Donel 04-16-07, 08:39 PM	my personal opinion on this is: i don't care, as long as i can fight.
Delfedd 04-16-07, 08:43 PM	Honestly, I'm sure every diety which has created a race will oppose you. I wonder how the god of death dies. That could be a good plot point. you could be all "I'm a litch now."
Aramil_Donel 04-16-07, 08:48 PM	I think that if each god with a race takes his races souls, it could get very complicated. And involve many more fights. There should be 3 planes for souls, Amon: good souls Avnuk:"lost" souls *someone*: evil souls (probably kakavindus) This would simplify it a whole lot. Destroying the keeper of the souls could also prove problematic for the mortal realm. Suddenly millions of souls break free and can do what they want to the mortal plane.(cause big problems)
riverrock 04-16-07, 08:54 PM	Despite what he has claimed, Avnuk does not have any special jurisdiction over the souls on the material plane yet. More to the point, deities are probably going to claim their worshippers, and maybe a few special souls. It really isn't that complicated. And there are several deities who could pretty easily take Avunik down. Not even considering the fact that every deity will have a bone to pick with him if he does what he is planning.
Delfedd 04-16-07, 08:58 PM	Exactly. I know if my worshipers are taken hostage by this hostile god, I will move my extraplanar forces into a direct assault against the realm of the dead. Or maybe just go in there and attack him.
Anuvrix 04-16-07, 09:01 PM	You shouldnt have a bone to pick with me, you should punish yourselves. None of you have spent ap to get your souls. I am going to create a concept *alignment factioning of the souls*. Any souls that are evil go to XXXX, who designated a special place for the souls. Good souls of course go to Amon. Neutral souls i would take. Any one who wants some of these peoples souls would have to barter or deal with the "keeper".
riverrock 04-16-07, 09:16 PM	Let it be noted that if Morintu decides to just eat Anvuk, Kyrinian will support him 100%. Also let it be noted that I did something about it.
Anuvrix 04-16-07, 09:23 PM	It has been noted, all souls that follow Kyrinian are now free from my forming chain, as soon as the chain is finished, it becomes final. All who want to have their souls will have to deal with me. If an attempt is made on my life for this, the perpatrator should face the wrath of any god as if he had offended them. No one has claimed them , so i will. I am just giving them a place to go. If that is wrong, go ahead and kill me. *edit*- You create them, use them to wage war, and leave the souls of your children on the side of the road. That is wrong. I am merely saving them, with a couple of benifits to me (true neutral).
Ronix 04-16-07, 09:32 PM	If any attack Avnuk for saving those they left behind, I will come to avnuk's aid.
Delfedd 04-16-07, 09:32 PM	What? OK. Even the IDEA of war had not been created until the Athach's attacked. Thus, the idea that some deity would want to take over the souls of the dead when they peacefully rested on the material plane was COMPLETELY alien. You know, I think I will eat you. Then maybe I'll take the chain of souls. Because Morintu likes chains. EDIT Wait Wait WAIT! We can just open the plane? Is that allowed?
riverrock 04-16-07, 09:36 PM	That's what I did. Since altering a divinely morphic plane doesn't (I believe) cost AP, and since it's not interfering with any other deity's domain, I just changed the plane of dreams so that Kyrininan's follower's souls could enter it.
Anuvrix 04-16-07, 09:36 PM	Ya... Wouldnt that be like an odd form of create portal? You can edit you plane as you want, but a path for something to enter it is still a portal.
Delfedd 04-16-07, 09:38 PM	I think he's wrong. After all, Amon created his planar gate for the dead without any AP. So yeah. I believe we can just declare that our followers will come to our land when they're dead.
riverrock 04-16-07, 09:39 PM	Exactly It isn't really a portal. The plane has been altered so that Kyrinian's dead followers (which are souls, not material creatures) go to it upon death. Dreaming creatures already enter it, but since they don't physically enter it, it isn't a portal.
Anuvrix 04-16-07, 09:41 PM	so souls can pass through any planar border even if there is no portal for them to enter? If so, then that's ok, new ability for ghosts.:D
riverrock 04-16-07, 09:42 PM	I altered the plane. It has nothing to do with a ghost's special ability.
Delfedd 04-16-07, 09:43 PM	Yup. So the most you'll get is animals. Sorry man.
Anuvrix 04-16-07, 09:51 PM	soooo.... You edited you plane to let souls enter at will. But only souls of those that worship you. This does not change the fact that you people created races, used them, and abandoned them. How many of your follower's souls do you think will still come back to you? Maybe some of the fresher ones, but what wbout the ones that have been left for hundreds of years. You honestly believe that souls are so devout, so blindly worshiping, that they will accept it after hundreds of years roaming the material plane, lost? You should consider who is wronging who here.
Anuvrix 04-16-07, 09:54 PM	Technically, all souls not put into a plane up till now, are mostly vengeful spirits, aka ghosts, my domain. You abandoned them, and you gave them to me. If you would debate this, consider if you where one of those souls. After years and years of roaming the world, abandoned by one who you devoutly worshipped, would you return to him?
riverrock 04-16-07, 09:56 PM	First of all, the only races Kyrinian has created are already part of the plane of dreams. Second of all, this was a mistake every deity made. Including Anurvik. Third of all, would they rather be used by Anurvik as currency? Fourth of all, Evil Dm's time description is a suggestion. A lot of people like it, but it isn't necessarily canon. Fifth of all, we could have just said they went there anyway, but we said that they stayed on the Material plane for flavor purposes. We could go back to that, or use reincarnation. Lastly, your domain is necromancy.
Delfedd 04-16-07, 10:03 PM	I vote that, since the "lost souls" did not even know about a life after death, they figured that their ghostly existance was a gift. And honestly, yeah. If I had a choice between being bound and dragged off to who knows where and being taken back by my god, I would take my god. I would imagine that I had been living in a sort of purgatory or something. Purifying the sins of my life by roaming the world and seeing all the chaos that I indirectly caused. I would beg my god to take me in.
Anuvrix 04-16-07, 10:05 PM	I'm not talking just to Kyrinian, im talking to all and any gods who would try to recreate Kyrinian's actions. This is typical, you all made a mistake. A little slip of mind. But, you are convicting me for correcting it. If you do not want me to get more souls than i will on thursday, alter your planes to carry the souls that will come in the future, and the few that might return.
Anuvrix 04-16-07, 10:08 PM	They do not know of life after death? I think that in any religion, if a place for the dead to go is not directly specified by the priests, the masses would generally assume that their almighty and all caring god will take them in. not leave them to roam the world they have departed from.
riverrock 04-16-07, 10:10 PM	Ehhh! Wrong answer! The idea of an wonderful afterlife is (in historical terms) a relatively new idea in religion. Plus, as Morintu said, purgatory.
Anuvrix 04-16-07, 10:11 PM	My people are not on the material plane, they live in my personal plane. They Die, and remain among their people, on my plane.
Delfedd 04-16-07, 10:14 PM	I'm going to enjoy eating you. I relish the idea of gaining the death domain. Seriously dude... do you WANT everyone to be allied against you? I know you see yourself as a hero, but at this point you're being more like a villian. Trying to horde the souls to yourself is NOT a good act. Remember, you forgot them. I was the second to take souls in. Also, What's happening with the sun? Is it blocked? Shadowed in darkness? I'm sure Ryth'eal will return dramatically soon enough, but in the meantime what's happened to the sun?
Anuvrix 04-16-07, 10:14 PM	I do not punish souls, my plane is just a place for them to go. The only price for being there is occasionally being called into my service. Souls can leave my plane, and go back to their homes, or where ever. They become haunting ghosts, and have my blessing to do what they want, but are in my Service.
Anuvrix 04-16-07, 10:16 PM	I never forgot any one. I am not hoarding the souls. I am picking up the thrown away change of the other gods. I do not hoard them , they may leave me and return to you if they wish. With no price. The chains bring them to me, to show them that there is somewhere to go.
riverrock 04-16-07, 10:17 PM	Why would they prefer a plane of corruption to a plane of perfect law, unending dreams, or what is, for all intents and purposes, Heaven (gorgil)? Also, you do have worshippers beyond the drow. Presumably, necromancers and followers of Amon are worshipping you and being abandonded. I never created any mortal races, yet i still have worshippers. And, yes you did. Everyone with any worshippers other than Amon did.
Anuvrix 04-16-07, 10:19 PM	Non Drow worshippers of mine know that unless they return to my plane after death, they will be left behind. Its up to them to claim their own fate.
riverrock 04-16-07, 10:20 PM	Since when, exactly? Where did you say this before? Your plane is, as your description, a plane of corruption. Not a plane for the dead.
Anuvrix 04-16-07, 10:21 PM	Meanwhile, i have to goto bed. Lets please continue this debate tommorow.
riverrock 04-16-07, 10:22 PM	Fine.
jamvid 04-16-07, 10:29 PM	They do not know of life after death? I think that in any religion, if a place for the dead to go is not directly specified by the priests, the masses would generally assume that their almighty and all caring god will take them in. not leave them to roam the world they have departed from. you need to realize of course, that that is the modern human way of looking at it. none of these races are human, some may even have weird, alien minds, and they don't live right here, or right now, in our culture. they're in a magical pseudo-mid-evil period. they think differently. :EDIT: whoops, I suppose I'm a little late.
riverrock 04-16-07, 10:33 PM	Yup, a good afterlife is a (relatively) new concept. The ancient Greeks believed almost everyone went to Hades. The norse believed everyone who didn't die in battle went to Hel. A good afterlife is a modern concept. And getting into the good afterlife automatically is a very, very modern concept.
ewancummins 04-16-07, 11:54 PM	I hope Glascieso doen't mind what I've done with the new lizardfolk. They are basically similiar to the MM1 lizardfolk, though they are smarter and not so large. They are primitive right now, but I see them evolving a sophisticated trading civilization over the next few centuries. Reed boats will be replaced by large wood hulled craft , powered by sails and oars in combination. The tiny villages will grow into towns and cities. They are going to make stuff out of darkwood, too. I'd better mention that now. The swamp is home to darkwood trees in considerable number- one of the few places they grow.
Destrieth 04-17-07, 01:55 AM	Honestly, the whole Anuvrik thing doesn't really bother me, but I did make sure to allow my (few) worshippers to go to Gorgild, which is my Elysian field. However, let it be on the record Alusia supports Morintu.
Evil DM Mk3 04-17-07, 04:57 AM	Can I point out that there is absolutely no reason for anyone to object to my soultion. It is a logical evolution of my deiatie's current state of mind and ther is a fully functioning portal in any case. Other than that I am in no fit state to have an opinion. Oh and my dates are at least semi-cannon as they are calculated from cannon facts. It is a bit liek the guy who worked out who fast warp 9 is, his numbers are not cannon, but are based on solid math from cannon dates. May I also point out that whilst it is not fair or reasonable for us to have a bone to pick with you, we are GODS dag nab it!
Delfedd 04-17-07, 06:16 AM	That's a ridiculously good point Kur-ah... I mean... We're GODS! We could do a promethius on him if he carries it further. I've always liked the idea of chaining my foes to a rock and having a great big vulture eat out their insides. :P Also, what is the stance on deity alignment? If Pholtone where to become... lawful good, which would be hilarious, would the athach follow him into law and goodness? Or would he just be out of worshipers? Also, could Justice be added to my portfolio?
Anuvrix 04-17-07, 08:08 AM	So, is there anyone who objects to me doing this? I could have waited until thursday and just did it, no warning, and not given you a chance to help your souls.
Evil DM Mk3 04-17-07, 08:30 AM	I do not object to you doing it, but you see you did not give ALL of us chance to save our souls. Some had spent their AP before you said what would happen, so if AP are needed we could be in trouble here. If they arent then remember that so far almost all gods have said "those that worship me". There will be plenty of left over souls I am sure. Just don't steal those allready on the way to a god. You do realise this makes you the god of necromancy and undead destroying though? As these chains will try and remove sentient undead form the world?
Anuvrix 04-17-07, 08:50 AM	They do not capture them, they bring them to the crystal, which will give them a choice: Stay and basically do what you want, or leave and go to some one else. It doesnt get rid of sentient undead, it creates an orginization that regulates their actions. Because sentience is a very dangerous thing, enough banded together can do alot.
Ronix 04-17-07, 10:23 AM	you know im true neutral but im getting ******...... maby im just having a bad day.... but in any case we need to stop arguing and making threats and comprimise. in my personal oppinion the whole chains thing is a bad idea.... necromancy is the art of raising the dead not claiming them, I think that all the gods should come to gether to creat a plane for all souls to automatical go to nomatter what race, culture, or god. just one place for all souls to reside. thats my two cents......
Anuvrix 04-17-07, 12:09 PM	I am not forcefully taking souls. I'm giving options to the optionless.
Destrieth 04-17-07, 02:03 PM	Except not a couple posts ago you said if any god wants to take back their worshippers they'd need to haggle with you. Now, to me that sounds like forcefully holding them.
Return of the Flumph 04-17-07, 02:56 PM	Except not a couple posts ago you said if any god wants to take back their worshippers they'd need to haggle with you. Now, to me that sounds like forcefully holding them. Not to mention that in your original post, you implied that you were sealing them all in a vault.
Anuvrix 04-17-07, 03:57 PM	Its more metaphorically sealing them than actually sealing them. Its basically a contract. they can live here or do what they want, but those who stay have to swear to come into my service when the time calls. It doesnt cost ap to alter the plane, which is what it aperrently is to allow souls to enter. If a god has no plane, then they couldn't take any souls any way.
riverrock 04-17-07, 04:42 PM	It should NOT cost AP. Altering a divinely morphic plane does not AP, and that is all getting your follower's souls is doing. To make it cost AP would not be fair to anyone except Anurv. We should not have to spend AP on something that should not cost AP. When Anurv first posted, he said he was taking the souls to use as bargaining chips with the other dieties. It was only after people protested that he tried to take the high moral ground. He forgot his followers the same as everyone else. No compromise is needed. Kyrininan has already rescued the souls of his followers. PERIOD. We don't need to create a plane for all souls. It would serve no purpose, at least as far as I can tell.
Anuvrix 04-17-07, 04:50 PM	Why would it be fair to make me spend ap to let souls in? All the chain does is bring them in, say you can stay, or you can leave. then it lets go. If you think that all followers that have died are devout enough even to come back, then why such a fuss about it. if they are devout, they will leave. almost like a test of faith.
Anuvrix 04-17-07, 05:00 PM	I never forgot my followers, as i posted before: My followers that are on my plane, stay on my plane when they die. those not on my plane know to come to my plane upon death. all but a few of souls that were left behind on the material plane would have turned into ghosts, undead spirits, Natural creatures under my domain, so there should be no fuss over me doing anything with them. If you would contest that they are still your followers, its too late. They are Undead. Im speaking to everyone, not just one or two gods.
Delfedd 04-17-07, 05:53 PM	I never forgot my followers, as i posted before: My followers that are on my plane, stay on my plane when they die. those not on my plane know to come to my plane upon death. all but a few of souls that were left behind on the material plane would have turned into ghosts, undead spirits, Natural creatures under my domain, so there should be no fuss over me doing anything with them. If you would contest that they are still your followers, its too late. They are Undead. Im speaking to everyone, not just one or two gods. I want to see the part where you offered the drow a place to stay. Because the thing is... you didn't. Also, we're gods. We have a set of beliefs. We see this as theft. And we know what happens to those who steal from Gods.
Ronix 04-17-07, 05:55 PM	It should NOT cost AP. Altering a divinely morphic plane does not AP, and that is all getting your follower's souls is doing. To make it cost AP would not be fair to anyone except Anurv. We should not have to spend AP on something that should not cost AP. When Anurv first posted, he said he was taking the souls to use as bargaining chips with the other dieties. It was only after people protested that he tried to take the high moral ground. He forgot his followers the same as everyone else. No compromise is needed. Kyrininan has already rescued the souls of his followers. PERIOD. We don't need to create a plane for all souls. It would serve no purpose, at least as far as I can tell. whats the purpose of haveing souls? what do you need them for? i dont care if hes rescued them or not! I suggested that we take them out of the equation completely...we dont need souls, they just take up space, so designate one place for all of them to go and leave them there.
Delfedd 04-17-07, 05:59 PM	Um. No. Why? because they're mine.
Anuvrix 04-17-07, 06:05 PM	What is the main problem? Because i can't see it.
Return of the Flumph 04-17-07, 06:05 PM	Um. No. Why? because they're mine. Argument over.
Ronix 04-17-07, 06:11 PM	Um. No. Why? because they're mine. i dont care if there yours, if you dont like my idea of one place for all souls, then fine! how about the gods only get the souls of the races they have created, and the rest are reborn. Or all souls are reborn, you know, reincarnation. I have hundreds of suggestions...... ......pick one, because we need to fix this problem. its starting tick me off, id like to get on with the game.
Delfedd 04-17-07, 06:16 PM	No. The people who believe in the god go to THAT God. If an Athach strongly believed in Morintu, it would go to the Plane of Air. If a Vaati believes strongly in Pholtone, it goes to Pholtone. If there's leftovers (eg. unbelievers and whatnot,) they'd be free to be chained up. I suppose. Although some gods would prefer not to have any souls chained.
Evil DM Mk3 04-17-07, 06:17 PM	And of those sugestions, we now have a chain that seeks out uncollected souls. As I see it: 1. Deiaties can claim souls of their worshipers for free. 2. One god has a mystical chains that alows him to collect in unattended souls. He spent AP and should probably get a domain.
Ronix 04-17-07, 06:21 PM	fine do that, have all worshipers go to their appropriate dieties and anvuk can have the non believers! ok? :D .....make happy, no more bickering.
Evil DM Mk3 04-17-07, 06:24 PM	Oh and I will show the sort fo thing souls are good for next turn.
Ronix 04-17-07, 06:35 PM	Oh and I will show the sort fo thing souls are good for next turn. LOL!!
Delfedd 04-17-07, 06:36 PM	Unless of course someone gets there faster.
riverrock 04-17-07, 06:37 PM	Anuvik never spent any AP on making the chains. Until he does, he will not recieve a domain (he might not even if he does, BTW) and we're basically free to ignore the chains. Second, Anuvik: what you are doing is retroconning, and it needs to stop. Before it was established that the gods had left their followers on the material plane, you had never mentioned your non-drow followers. You forgot them just like everyone else.) (And, yes, you do have non-drow followers. If you check the deity description that you gave me, you'll see under your worshippers cultists and necromancers.) More to the point, you continue to try to paint this as a valiant action, when it was anything but; you originally said that you were taking them in order to SELL THEM BACK to the other deities. You've gone back on this to try to gain the moral high ground, which you do not have. As for what a soul is good for: Deities want there followers to dwell with them in the after life. They do not need a reason beyond this, although they could have one. Furthermore, you have jurisdiction over necromancy. If you go to the domain list, you'll notice there is a little Domain called "Undeath," which you do not have. I'm done arguing. As I said, Kyrininan has collected the souls of his followers. If Avunk wants to go ahead with his plan, so be it.
Delfedd 04-17-07, 08:58 PM	What happens if the Ty'Dyw pact is broken? I'm just wondering, since I'm modeling parts of my new plane after the Ty'Dyw... Don't know if you noticed.
Evil DM Mk3 04-18-07, 05:04 AM	Hmm, lets see... The pale would also colapse, quite possibly trapping all creatures in it at the time the gap between the planes. Those who have tome of magic know what that would mean. The god spawned by the divine energy of the plan, our resident god of pacts, would likely die regardless of where they are based on the principle of "gods are tied to a force, one dies both die" mentioned when morintu stole the leylines. If the creatures inside do not die they wil instead get shunted which would casue a massive sea of souls to be dumped in the prime material... Portals are likely to explode...
Evil DM Mk3 04-18-07, 06:19 AM	Second point for a second post. The chains do cost him AP, he took the rather noble stance of giving us 100 years notice. And he can take the non-existant moral highground if he wants to. Becasue, all together now HE IS A GOD.
Delfedd 04-18-07, 06:27 AM	hehe.... Yeah, it does go both ways I suppose.
Ronix 04-18-07, 06:32 AM	i dont even know why i opened my mouth, i dont have a plane. i sit in an isolated forest and meditate all the time.....(*shrugs*)
Evil DM Mk3 04-18-07, 06:52 AM	I did give you carte blanche to use my libraries and halls ect when I made you you know.
Ronix 04-18-07, 08:54 AM	would any one have a provlem if i created an item set for Elvunil? Gauntlets and Greaves of Annihilating strike? Effect: reduses mortals to pulp and turns material objest to debris in a 10ft raidius (does not have the same effect on gods) Annihilating strike is a divine ability for dieties with a divine rankk of 16 or higher in D&D 3.5, im just asking if i can make a weapon for a monk (hence the gauntlets and greaves) please concider.
Ronix 04-18-07, 09:17 AM	something just came to my attention, my portfolio hasnt bean updated, and in an ealier post i went up 2 ranks in dr and two in monk lvl. just a concern.
Ivellius 04-18-07, 11:09 AM	Make sure you're checking riverrock's section on the first page of the thread. Then message him if it needs changing.
Ronix 04-18-07, 12:57 PM	thats why i was saying somthing about it cause i checked my portfolio and it wasnt updated, so, ill message him then, thanks
Destrieth 04-18-07, 02:27 PM	why in the world would you need a pair of items that can destroy mortal stuff when you can... already do that? I'm under the impression that if you want to you can within reason wipe away and change the physical world with action points. Unless of course you want to use these as a way around spending action points, which I would say shame on you.
Evil DM Mk3 04-18-07, 03:33 PM	Ok Alusia, calm down dear! Seriously. Oh and on artifacts both otehr artifacts where just made to do as job costing 3 AP. One ended up giving a domain, one didn't. Don't bother with salent divien abilites, that is too much detail. After the three celestial years are over somone might want to stat up the deiateis and give them abilites that match what they HAVE DONE but for now, RP it baby!
Evil DM Mk3 04-18-07, 03:37 PM	On another note, you guys who have the deiaty you RP in your sig, have you had to expalin it to anyone?
Destrieth 04-18-07, 03:40 PM	No, this is the only set of threads I bother posting in.
Ronix 04-18-07, 04:03 PM	on the subject of the items, in short i just wanted a weapon to fit Elvunil, and i didnt know i could turn a tree into splinters bye kicking it already or make a crater 10ft in diamiter by punching the ground. and as far as ppl asking me about the sig...this and second thread are the only threads i post on.
riverrock 04-18-07, 04:42 PM	nevermind- I'll be fixing a few things on the deity descriptions, so if yours is wrong, please just have patience. Things should be corrected in a few days.
Ronix 04-18-07, 04:52 PM	:confused: i dont under stand, maybe im just stupid.
riverrock 04-18-07, 04:52 PM	Don't understand what?
Ronix 04-18-07, 04:55 PM	This, "When you start out, when you are created- (either by being created by a god greater than you, being the child of a mortal and a god (or god and god) or being the by-product of a dead god) you start at the lowest point in your divine rank"
Ronix 04-18-07, 05:02 PM	nvm, i understand but if i start at DR 11 it should be 13 now and my monk lvl should be 10, iv spent ap on this already.
Return of the Flumph 04-18-07, 06:14 PM	This, "When you start out, when you are created- (either by being created by a god greater than you, being the child of a mortal and a god (or god and god) or being the by-product of a dead god) you start at the lowest point in your divine rank" Speaking of that, I just realized that Glykllivar's divine rank and class levels are way higher than they are supposed to be. Could the OP please reduce her power levels to the norm for an Intermediate god plus the one druid level that she gained?
riverrock 04-18-07, 06:17 PM	That would be me. Sorry, this is really my fault. I didn't realize the deity power level thing until later. This will be fixed-just not immediately. I'm really sorry, I did mess up. I hope no one is angry:weep:
Return of the Flumph 04-18-07, 06:24 PM	That would be me. Sorry, this is really my fault. I didn't realize the deity power level thing until later. This will be fixed-just not immediately. I'm really sorry, I did mess up. I hope no one is angry:weep: Just as much my fault when I wrote up her stats. On a completely unrelated note, does anyone else picture Pholtone as the Master Hand from SSB?
riverrock 04-18-07, 06:32 PM	Up until now, I hadn't thought of that- but now I can totally see it. If the vaati want to stop the athaches, they will have to get Mario's help. On a slightly more serious note: I'll be updating the deity descriptions soon. Everything should be fixed by Friday. There are still several deity positions open, so if anyone knows anyone who would want to join, have them pm me. Does anyone know what's happened to a couple of the deities who haven't posted in a while? We haven't heard from several people in a long time, it seems like.
Delfedd 04-18-07, 07:05 PM	Mario is a chaotic thief, swindler of the true ruler of Mushroom Kingdom. I will have no truck with brigands. :D It does seem like that.
Janusunaj 04-18-07, 08:35 PM	I haven't posted because I am almost blind in my right eye right now from surgery.
Anuvrix 04-18-07, 08:41 PM	Wow, is it permanent? Why did you need the surgery? Just asking.
Evil DM Mk3 04-18-07, 08:42 PM	Are you ok?
Ronix 04-18-07, 08:44 PM	yea seriously, what happened?
Janusunaj 04-18-07, 08:46 PM	Mysterious scarred tissue. Its not permanent. In 10 onths I should heal completely.(Heal in weeks, but see in months)
Ronix 04-18-07, 08:51 PM	well thats a relief, im glad your not going blind in one eye
d24478667 04-18-07, 08:58 PM	Get well (relatively) soon! And if I sound heartless, or ignorant, I mean relative to the rest of your life.
Delfedd 04-18-07, 10:39 PM	Hey riverrock... Could you add Dragons to my worshipers? My alignment is Lawful Neutral. Could I be called skylord?
jamvid 04-18-07, 10:53 PM	On a completely unrelated note, does anyone else picture Pholtone as the Master Hand from SSB? I hadn't, but now I'll never be able to post without thinking about it. Hmmm. Maybe I could get bowser as my herald.
Delfedd 04-18-07, 11:18 PM	I've been thinking. Our mythology doesn't sound like a mythology. I may rewrite it so it sounds more mythological.
Return of the Flumph 04-18-07, 11:36 PM	I've been thinking. Our mythology doesn't sound like a mythology. I may rewrite it so it sounds more mythological. As it is, Evil DM has pretty much been cut-and-pasting from our posts; I don't think he can rewrite it in elegant, mythical language and still keep up with it. I couldn't.
Evil DM Mk3 04-19-07, 06:52 AM	It is more the fact that people would get annoyed. That is why I am RPing it as Kur-ah's personal record. It is also why for the moment I have STOPED the updaetes, they will arive on masse when Kur-ah is up to it. :D
Evil DM Mk3 04-19-07, 07:01 AM	OK it has been pointed out that we have several deiaty slots open. We also have no one to fill them. How would everyone feel about (and this is just a sujection not a recomentation, just to see if the option is open to us at a later date) alowing one person to RP multiple gods? We do not even seem to have the gods open that we ought to either we have open. We have no diedicated moon god for one thing. Not my area to argue of course but that is just my point of view.
Ronix 04-19-07, 07:09 AM	Anuvrix is my younger brother IRL and for a couple posts he had logged in as my and posted, same with aramil_donel (hes my youngest brother), Anuvrix has bean posting for him. (i like the moon, dont know why i brought that up but its true)
Anuvrix 04-19-07, 08:09 AM	My little brother Aramil_donel is the wargod, but he is also kinda stupid. I post for him because his posts would seem... Ya. I have not used any of my brothers accounts for anything, and i mean not to. All i do is suggest to my little brother what to do, and i post it for him more eloquently than he could.
Ivellius 04-19-07, 09:43 AM	OK it has been pointed out that we have several deiaty slots open. We also have no one to fill them. How would everyone feel about (and this is just a sujection not a recomentation, just to see if the option is open to us at a later date) alowing one person to RP multiple gods? We do not even seem to have the gods open that we ought to either we have open. We have no diedicated moon god for one thing. Not my area to argue of course but that is just my point of view. Ah, I don't know. I don't think I really want to run multiple deities, but I do want these slots to be filled. At least for me, I see it as a pretty big conflict of interest. But I'm not necessarily opposed to other people running them. I've been trying to get one of my friends to join this thread. I may work on him and another guy I know to help out. Besides, it's fun--at least for the embodiment of evil. :evillaugh Also, why do we need a dedicated moon god? It was probably going to be that Chaos guy, but he's asleep. Does someone need to take that place?
Ronix 04-19-07, 09:47 AM	Hey if no one wants the moon ill take it, lol as iv said before i like the moon :D
Evil DM Mk3 04-19-07, 10:20 AM	I will confess taht I have been toyign with another deific idea for a while now, but had intended to keep it in reserve incase this guy died. I only rasied the issue as I can see that it may becoem a problem in the future.
Destrieth 04-19-07, 12:38 PM	I don't think allowing one person to play multiples is the most prudent ideas, simply because, yeah, conflict of interest. Plus it would make both deities seem rather shallow if the player had to divide his attention equally.
Evil DM Mk3 04-19-07, 12:44 PM	Just an idea for a possible future. But I agree.
Return of the Flumph 04-19-07, 02:53 PM	I think the massive, sleeping form of the ever-dreaming Ahuizotl is a good enough moon god. Not to mention he might always wake up and suddenly tear the universe apart with the millions of AP he has saved up. He is chaotic, after all. :cool:
Evil DM Mk3 04-19-07, 03:00 PM	Doing a god of pestilance might be fun, still I will keep that back in case Kur-ah dies.
jamvid 04-19-07, 03:07 PM	We have no diedicated moon god for one thing. Pholtone took over the moon domain once Azuihotl died: [15]NAME: Pholtone Domains: Chaos, Moon Unless you meant to put emphasis on the fact that I haven't been 'dedicated' and haven't done anything with the moon yet. I would have made Lycanthropes, but Riverrock beat me to it (curse you, summertime!;)). Although I don't know why more than one deity couldn't possess the same domain, especially with something like moons, where more than one could be made. It’s not my decision though, but I don't see why Kyrinian doesn't have the moon domain. Any deity that wants to make a moon should feel free to do so; a world can never have too many moons.
Anuvrix 04-19-07, 04:03 PM	Any deity that wants to make a moon should feel free to do so; a world can never have too many moons. Yea, just look at Jupiter.:D
Evil DM Mk3 04-19-07, 04:06 PM	Nah, I made the sun, I'm good. (gods that is going to be a particullary embarsing myth to pass on, no wonder these things get embalished. And Kur-ah said Bugger. And the sun was born. umm...)
riverrock 04-19-07, 04:51 PM	Well, I created the second moon back when Agent_Graves was in charge, and he never gave me the moon domain, so I figured it must not be enough. On a different note: are we going to consider orcs a "phb" race? Because this might be an issue. Also, I will have the deity descriptions updated and fixed on friday.
Evil DM Mk3 04-19-07, 05:04 PM	Nah, orcs are MM, pure and simple. They are also (quite interesingly) one of the first experiments into "abilityless humaoids". That fits the "crude" apperance they seem to have. And the outsiders I made can be found in the 3rd edition fiend folio. CR 17, 12 and 9, ECL 25, 17 and 13. Now is that not an eligant and falvourfull solution to what to do with souls?
riverrock 04-19-07, 05:13 PM	For your worshippers, yes. If we could ensure that a person playing 2 deities wouldn't abuse the privelege, it would be fine, but I'd rather we try to get some one new first.
Evil DM Mk3 04-19-07, 05:16 PM	Well I am not taking any one elses!! In fact I DON'T take, mine come to me :P I would only be interested in an evil god that had scope for starting with pesitilance as a domain. That is the only idea I have, and then only if it comes up and no one wants it.
riverrock 04-19-07, 05:18 PM	I knew that its just your worshippers.
Evil DM Mk3 04-19-07, 05:24 PM	Hang on, did you mean it was flavourful but just my guys (ie no other gods souls end up there) or that it is a flavourful way of me doing it?
riverrock 04-19-07, 05:28 PM	I thought that was what you said? I'm confused now, just forget I said anything.
Evil DM Mk3 04-19-07, 05:34 PM	When you said this: For your worshippers, yes. Did you mean: A:This is a flavourful thing. It aplies to your worshipers only of course. OR B:This is a flavourful thing to do with your worshipers becasue of who you and they are.
riverrock 04-19-07, 05:35 PM	"B"
Evil DM Mk3 04-19-07, 06:08 PM	Why are everyone throwing their AP into the stratosphere? Asre we going to impose maximum limites here or is this going to devolve into EVOLVE PHYSICALY WHO-HA! Seriously guys! No RP value, no value for teh world, just really powerful gods. Powergaming in an RPing thread:confused: What are you going to do with 11 AP per turn? Run the whole gods damn (he he he, gods damn) game?
riverrock 04-19-07, 06:10 PM	Yeah, aren't we suppose to descripe the new form when doing the "evolve physically" action? That was supposed to be a the way the roleplaying factored in.
riverrock 04-19-07, 06:21 PM	Oh, and just a clarification: Two deities can possess the same domain. It's just a little bit harder for deities after the first to get the domain.
riverrock 04-19-07, 07:15 PM	Morintu gains Undeath (for creating the first undead), and Fury (For his past actions, assuming he wants it as well.)
d24478667 04-19-07, 07:22 PM	Actually, with 11 AP per turn, I plan to act as a diplomat/peacemaker through the various pantheons. And become an greater diety.
Delfedd 04-19-07, 07:32 PM	You have to describe ALL the things that you Evolve. If it's not related to RPing, it doesn't gain anything. I didn't gain anything for the chains. I suggest begining AP +4 is a good number
jamvid 04-19-07, 09:57 PM	You have to describe ALL the things that you Evolve. If it's not related to RPing, it doesn't gain anything. I didn't gain anything for the chains. I suggest begining AP +4 is a good number if you're saying what I think you're saying: that a deity should only have as much AP as their divine rank + 4, then I agree whole-heartedly, it feels weird when lesser deities have 1 and 1/2 as much AP as the overdeity.
Agent Graves 04-19-07, 10:12 PM	Hey team, I have a bit of time so i thought i'd poke my head in to see how you're all doing. Its great to see this grow into something much larger than was first thought. Well done in keeping it alive, i am sorry that i was not able to continue the original thread. But LoC has gained sentience and lives on. Like an ever growing behemoth with more than a dozen minds, trampling through the undergrowth, consuming everything in its path... some sort of shambling mound/ ooze hybrid... with tusks and vines and multiple arms... swamp thing meets cthulu, except less doom and more creation. And thats all thanks to you guys. Well done. Keep it up.
Delfedd 04-19-07, 10:15 PM	Thanks graves. Maybe you could come in for a turn or to every now and then. You are the WANDERING storyteller after all.
riverrock 04-19-07, 10:23 PM	None of this would be possible if you hadn't thought of it in the first place. We all have you to thank for make such a great thread.
Evil DM Mk3 04-20-07, 06:11 AM	AG! How goes you? I feel that the chains warrant the domain Deathbound. Oha nd a number of AP based on divien ranks is carzy, greater deiaties could easily get over two dozen, starting at FIVE. Base it off startting number, going up with divine type. Galesio currently has more than double the base for a greater deiaty and AP are our only curency of power.
Delfedd 04-20-07, 06:20 AM	That's not what I meant... Sorry. I suggest 4 over the base AP. I also say that the evolve form shouldn't count unless the evolve form makes sense.
d24478667 04-20-07, 06:20 AM	So because I invested the time and AP, and am now reaping the benefits, I take a fall? Okay, s'long as I get all that AP back.
Evil DM Mk3 04-20-07, 06:24 AM	I was a bit miffed when I saw this yestarday and I will tell you why. I eveolve foremed once. It was a flavourful and majour thing about me. But whilst I "played the world making game" as I saw it, certain others (not just you) ramped themselves past everyoen else in power in kind of a crazy arms race.
Destrieth 04-20-07, 06:26 AM	I've been keeping mine in line, mostly because I've wanted to do stuff every turn. I really think though that more AP is a good thing but maybe not the ridiculous amount some people are hoarding. 7-8 is a good cap I think. When you can take more than one big action every turn you've reached the top of the curve imo.
d24478667 04-20-07, 06:35 AM	Well, so far, everyone has basically acted with indifference to me; heck, the two times ya did anything was to invite me to Ty'Dyw, and to talk to him about law and chaos; Other then that, almost no god has talked to me, so I did what I could. However, if you do want to lower my AP, as I said before, it is fine, as long as I get all the AP I spent on it.
Evil DM Mk3 04-20-07, 06:42 AM	If you want stuff to happen about you, do stuff, don't sit in the corner then wonder why no one is playing with you! Good greid we ahve a god of winter and a god of summer, surely you could have constructed somthing over that!
Destrieth 04-20-07, 06:45 AM	Yeah, seriously. Instead of hoarding AP and making small talk, spend those APs and change the realm.
Destrieth 04-20-07, 07:50 AM	Oh, also, not to be the policeman but Elvunil, it costs 3 AP to raise DR, not 2.
Anuvrix 04-20-07, 08:02 AM	I intend to fully investigate the new undead creatures.... The power of the lich...
Anuvrix 04-20-07, 08:08 AM	About the nightmares. I have no problem with them, but would there be nightmares of gods? Super powerful nightmares of several gods. Even gods have fears...
Evil DM Mk3 04-20-07, 02:05 PM	Can someone tell me how to link to a post not a thread? Need it for the book.
Delfedd 04-20-07, 02:55 PM	Click the Number on top of the post. Anywho. I thought I'd give the levels of my heroes. IV-001 LN Huge Inevitable Marut (45 HD) Level 1 Fighter. Icoscol LN Vaati Lich: Sorcerer 9/Fighter 1/Eldritch Knight 15 I thought I should stat them out, since they're growing more and more important to me.
Ivellius 04-20-07, 03:02 PM	Well, so far, everyone has basically acted with indifference to me; heck, the two times ya did anything was to invite me to Ty'Dyw, and to talk to him about law and chaos; Other then that, almost no god has talked to me, so I did what I could. However, if you do want to lower my AP, as I said before, it is fine, as long as I get all the AP I spent on it. Well, Kakavindus would be your friend. But Glaciesco didn't want that.
Anuvrix 04-20-07, 03:10 PM	So, can you create a hero among your people without spending ap? Cuz there is one servant of mine that sjows potential...
Evil DM Mk3 04-20-07, 03:13 PM	Heralds are free, heros, well clerics are free, I dunno about the rest, making an unusualy birth, granting natural tallent (ie hight ability scores) ect should be ok (remember I am admin, not judging) but overdoing it would be silly. Just keep it reasonable I would advise.
Delfedd 04-20-07, 03:26 PM	I didn't create the heroes... technically. Well... I created the races, but they developed by themselves. If there's a Drizzt in this world, I'm going to leave a smoldering crater where the dual weilding drow once stood.
Evil DM Mk3 04-20-07, 03:27 PM	Here Here!
Anuvrix 04-20-07, 03:31 PM	I would not make Drizz't, for two reasons: A) copyright infringement 2) not origional idea
d24478667 04-20-07, 03:34 PM	I shall reform the Winter Lord, but let me do it in my way; if I check the thread and everyone decided to drain his power while I was at school, I will be mad. There, he has been reformed.
riverrock 04-20-07, 03:34 PM	I think they were just kidding about Drizzt. Anyway, heroes are a flavor issue. I think its good that people are coming up with unique characters for the world.
Delfedd 04-20-07, 03:49 PM	Yeah. We should start talking about the feel of the world. Since the world ends at the end of year three, most of the playing will be late year 2 and early year three. What sort of feel do we want? High level (forgotten realms?) Low level? (Eberron?) High/low magic? For these, we're going to have to bring about a catastrophe. As for the Drizzt thing... no, seriously. If someone makes a good drow, there will be a crater.
Anuvrix 04-20-07, 03:53 PM	High/low magic? For these, we're going to have to bring about a catastrophe. I could do it. at the end of year 3
riverrock 04-20-07, 03:55 PM	Let's just see how things develop on their own. Anyway, I'm pretty sure I have everyone's description fixed. If there is still a problem, please pm me.
Evil DM Mk3 04-20-07, 03:57 PM	We are only doing three years, the world may not end there (I understood the aim was to make a world that could be taken and used)
Anuvrix 04-20-07, 04:08 PM	Morintu created the lich. Avnuk created the vampire. Is it turning into a game of one upper?
Anuvrix 04-20-07, 04:11 PM	Undead are immune to mind influencing effects...
Delfedd 04-20-07, 04:15 PM	Remote Communication As a standard action, a deity of rank 1 or higher can send a communication to a remote location. The deity can speak to any of its own worshipers, and to anyone within one mile per rank away from a site dedicated to the deity, or within one mile per rank away from a statue or other likeness of the deity. The creature being contacted can receive a telepathic message that only it can hear. Alternatively, the deity’s voice can seem to issue from the air, the ground, or from some object of the deity’s choosing (but not an object or locale dedicated to another deity of equal or higher rank than the deity who is speaking). In the latter case, anyone within earshot of the sound can hear it. The deity can send a manifestation or omen instead of a spoken or telepathic message. The exact nature of this communication varies with the deity, but it usually is some visible phenomenon. A deity’s communication power can cross planes and penetrate any barrier. Once communication is initiated, the deity can continue communicating as a free action until it decides to end the communication. A deity can carry on as many remote communications at one time as it can remote sense at one time. Yeah... about that... I'm also a god. Telepathy is not a mind affecting ability. It is a divination power.
Anuvrix 04-20-07, 04:22 PM	The deity can speak to any of its own worshipers, and to anyone within one mile per rank away from a site dedicated to the deity, or within one mile per rank away from a statue or other likeness of the deity. Yeah... about that... He is not within reach, nor is he a worshipper, plus he isn't within the area of your statue/semblance. ..................
Anuvrix 04-20-07, 09:58 PM	Nice diety-nightmares, here's an idea of mine: a simple shadow upon the floor. there is no source of light in the room, but all is brightly lit. the shadow has a humanoid shape, but is not definite enough to see detials. his name is Mirandicuses. He uses peoples fear of the unknown to scare them into insanity. Many of his victims simply hide in a small closed room, huddled in a ball. It is not distinctly known which god he originated from, though he claims to be a cumulative mixture from all gods.
Delfedd 04-21-07, 12:35 AM	You're right. Although you can't know I don't have a statue nearby. I will use this later on.
Evil DM Mk3 04-21-07, 04:51 AM	For reasons soon to become apparent, my nightmares are of certain real things.
d24478667 04-21-07, 06:12 AM	Kill the Blisk! (A reference to Destroy All Humans! Two)
riverrock 04-21-07, 05:29 PM	I'm glad its been confirmed that no one actually reads anything i post. Kyrinian created fey a long, long time ago. And he created dryads specifically too. For almost the exact same reason as evil dm just gave for Kur-ah. Just pointing this out.
Evil DM Mk3 04-21-07, 05:30 PM	Sorry I did go though and try and find them, I only found the Neirids, hang on a tick... Why don't you have a "created" section? Also you should have the dream comain.
riverrock 04-21-07, 05:32 PM	Nereids and dryads and glitterhaunts, all created with the purpose of defending nature. Spent 6 ap to create 3 fey, in fact. More to the point, I tried to make the fey unique by tieing them to the plane of dreams. I've fixed Kyrinian's description to reflect what you asked.
Evil DM Mk3 04-21-07, 05:37 PM	*Thinks* Damn I need 3AP to pull off the next move I wanted, I could move out of sequance (with the 2AP follow up), but that would then look silly, DAMN! Edit:GOT IT! Pay attention now, this may get a little subtle. Also Keepers are Fiend folio, CR and ECL 7
Evil DM Mk3 04-22-07, 10:48 AM	Do we have a plane of shadow yet? What about the etherial? Also would anyone mind me introducing a new mechanic as part of a plane I intend to make?
Delfedd 04-22-07, 01:46 PM	well, tell usx the mechanic, and we'll tell you if we like it.
ewancummins 04-22-07, 01:51 PM	I'm altering and expanding my description of Artheyn's plane. I will settle on a proper name soon.
Evil DM Mk3 04-22-07, 01:55 PM	*Gone* As for the mechanic. Well I intend to create a plane of mirrors. Quite differant form the Planar handbook one. I want to make using mirrors during spell preperation mildly benefitial, ATM my idea is if one PERFECTLY CLEAR AND CLEAN mirror is used when you do whatever it is you do to prepare spells you can use the flow of magical energy that is REFLECTS as well as the one that you inhabit, gaining a +1 bonus on caster level checks for the day. The use of a pair of same mirrors facing each other (note, it will be hard to maintain such mirrors, especialy if you adventure, poss 1000gp each) you gain +3 bonus on caster level checks for that day and a +1 bonus on caster level for one school of magic. More powerful arangements possibly costing hundreds of thousnads of gp that grant bonuses on caster level and class level for the purpose of spells per day are in theory possible but would require a dedicated room. There will be RP and DMing(as ones the DM can use) downsides to using mirrors like this however. For the adverige PC it is a small bonus that he will need to spend money and time on, for DMs it is a possible power boost and awsomeness factor (can you immadgien these charging rooms? round rooms with say 24 sides and internal partitions and a mirrored roof that reflect the light of a single candle through mystical patterns onto a single point that causes ulber spell preperation. Also I want to introduce "mirror" illusions, identical to shadow illusions (as in the exact same spells) expet the two counter each other (light and dark, see), they reqire a mirror as a focus and they draw on the new plane I am making rather than the shadow plane.
ewancummins 04-22-07, 02:22 PM	Mirror plane? Hmmm. Sounds cool. Oh, in case anyone was wondering: giant lynxes and giant beaver are drawn from the 1E MM [ though the ones on Arteheyn's plane also have extraplanar traits]. The beaver will build stuff out of timber in exchange for goods or services they desire[ they accept lumps of gold , as well]. Giant owls are pretty much as per the 3e MM[ I don't recall if those were sentient- these definitely are]. The fiendish rats have human level intelligence and can possibly learn to cast spells. The celestial lions are available to be summoned by high level mortal paladins as ''mounts''. I'm going with the assumption that this doesn't cost me any additional action points, as I'm only adding detail to my own plane, and tweaking it a bit. Kersys may accept the fiendish rats as his new worshippers, if he likes. Artheyn told them he was their progenitor. They are busily gnawing tree roots and big rocks into images of what they imagine to be his form [ an enormous black ratlike creature, with a gaping maw and sharp teeth] , hoping to gain his favor. Any casters who summon either fiendish or celestial animals may draw them from this plane. I
Evil DM Mk3 04-22-07, 02:25 PM	I will make no secret of it (it will be known to all next turn) it is part of my move towards more knowladge. I got the original idea form Witches Abroad by Terry Prattchett and then opened it up into more DnD stuff.
Delfedd 04-22-07, 03:23 PM	The mirror plane could function as the etherial plane. Just an idea.
Evil DM Mk3 04-22-07, 03:25 PM	Nah if anything it would be most like the shadow plane. A kinda OPOSITE shadow plane too. It is a reflection of the real world dotted with mirror portals, you see when you look into a mirror you don't just see your reflection, you see into the mirror plane. Things live there... Damn you will see on thursday
Delfedd 04-22-07, 03:42 PM	I mean... effectively the ethereal plane. Not really. So blinking and etherialness puts you into the ethereal plane. No one really wants to make the Ethereal plane... cos it's boring.
Evil DM Mk3 04-22-07, 03:44 PM	Supose so.
Evil DM Mk3 04-22-07, 03:55 PM	Actually thinking about it the plane of mirros looks set to become a combination astrial and etherial plane...
ewancummins 04-22-07, 04:12 PM	Riverrock, I read everything you post. everything everybody, posts, actually. I like your fey creations. The tie to the plane of dreams is especially cool.
Evil DM Mk3 04-22-07, 04:14 PM	Sorry the comment was directed at me. I hadn'e and re-made somthing of his. I made the keepers in stead now.
Evil DM Mk3 04-22-07, 04:26 PM	Could some one give me the lowdown on Morintu, Amon and the Sun. What is happeing there I seem to have lost the thread of that...
Janusunaj 04-22-07, 04:36 PM	The word sun was a poetic word that described his moral brightness. You know, Light = Good.
Evil DM Mk3 04-22-07, 04:37 PM	Fine. It would ahve been much better however if it had not happened paralel to the sun going out...
Destrieth 04-22-07, 04:49 PM	Nothing is ever convenient.
ewancummins 04-22-07, 05:20 PM	I really like the keepers. Very cool to include them. I too, would like some clarification about what happened with the sun. Has it vanished entirely, as Ry'theal is still tumbling down the infinite slope of that herkin' huge mountain? Because that's a serious problem the gods need to fix. Things stay dark and most living creatures are going to die off!
Evil DM Mk3 04-22-07, 05:29 PM	Oh some art of creatures I made :D An Aurumach and a Cuprilach rulmani. (http://www.wizards.com/dnd/images/ff_gallery/50089.jpg) A keeper (http://www.wizards.com/dnd/images/ff_gallery/50109.jpg)
d24478667 04-22-07, 06:45 PM	The direct, and painless method.
riverrock 04-22-07, 07:23 PM	What I believe has happened with the sun and Ry'theal is that after Ry'theal fell he took the light of the sun and absconded with it, for a purpose that remains unknown. The world wouldn't necessarily be entirely dark though. The moon that is a portal to the plane of light and the moon Lexius created could provide some illumination, and Kyrinian's moon could reflect some lost light as well. Everything is probably significantly darker though.
ewancummins 04-22-07, 08:09 PM	Riverrock, I'm assuming the darkness is slowly killing a good chunk of the world- but not everything. Many of Artheyen's plant and animal creations need sunlight to live. Feel free to correct me if I am wrong about this. Luckily my plane is basically a warehouse world full of all sorts of animals and plants. Anything that dies out can be replaced from there.
d24478667 04-22-07, 08:18 PM	Err.. Who's Wyyfred? I looked through the diet list, never saw it.
Destrieth 04-22-07, 08:22 PM	You should read my posts then, shouldn't you? The details of Wyyfred. (http://boards1.wizards.com/showpost.php?p=12176606&postcount=461)
Janusunaj 04-22-07, 08:37 PM	I should have 20 DvRs now.
Evil DM Mk3 04-22-07, 08:39 PM	What the hell have the Ramalli suposed to have done now? Try and separeate two armies? Try and prevent a genocyde? (Spread a spy network throughout the races?)
d24478667 04-22-07, 08:43 PM	You should read my posts then, shouldn't you? Forgive me; I got little sleep last night and forgot.
Janusunaj 04-22-07, 09:08 PM	Amon wants to create a test so that those who pass it may have DvR 1. I think it would be wonderful for the players of the campaign setting.
Evil DM Mk3 04-22-07, 09:22 PM	And a headacke for DMs... It would need to be a trans-epic test and it would give DvR 0, not 1.
Janusunaj 04-22-07, 09:23 PM	How about the Test be something else then, so that DM's may include DvR 1 at their discretion?
Evil DM Mk3 04-22-07, 09:25 PM	I have no objections so long as it is done in a way that lets the DM basicly just say no. Also divine ranks start at 0. This is differnat from not having a divine rank.
Janusunaj 04-22-07, 09:29 PM	O.k. I just thought it would be great for both the campaign and the players. It would explain why some gods have low class levels(I think more games need those)
Evil DM Mk3 04-22-07, 09:31 PM	I like the idea, I am just cautious about it's aplication.
Janusunaj 04-22-07, 09:32 PM	Say, there is a designated area. The characters go to it, have a test that varies from person to person, like the Test of High Sorcery.
Evil DM Mk3 04-22-07, 09:34 PM	Well you could plonk the test area in the great library, that's allready there.
Janusunaj 04-22-07, 09:35 PM	I was thinking of making it accessible to the world through a demi-plane.
Return of the Flumph 04-22-07, 09:47 PM	Then create a demiplane. I agree that no one below epic level should stand a chance at passing this test, though.
Evil DM Mk3 04-22-07, 09:47 PM	On a side note can I point out the futility of attacking a race that operate form a plane that grants the dieaties the ability to shunt out anyone they don't want to be there?
Janusunaj 04-22-07, 09:48 PM	Correction. I think that no PC should ever pass the test unti la certain level. However, I think that NPCs should.
Delfedd 04-22-07, 09:52 PM	Yup. :D It's called we can wait until something comes out. or stage a war right in front of them. Or something. Anyway, they're just heroes. They don't know what they're doing.
Delfedd 04-22-07, 11:20 PM	I've got a question. Would killing hundreds of thousands of creatures in one fell swoop over a century be an evil act? I would argue that Ryth'eal is the most evil creature on the planes. Should the killer of thousands of babies be convicted of murder?
Ivellius 04-22-07, 11:26 PM	Ryth'eal, if you're listening, I just want to tell you: Kakavindus will accept you. It's okay. You can come be an evil baby-killer in Karkeri.
Return of the Flumph 04-22-07, 11:38 PM	Ryth'eal, if you're listening, I just want to tell you: Kakavindus will accept you. It's okay. You can come be an evil baby-killer in Karkeri. That image brings to mind the episode of Samaurai Jack where Aku is telling the fairy tales about himself...not sure why I made that connection, I just did.
ewancummins 04-22-07, 11:40 PM	The myconids on the surface world are adventurers. They are exploring and looting the skylands[ as they call the upper world]. They return [the survivors do, anyway] to the underdark with tales of the terrible surface world and the treasures to be found there. Treaures of artifice, magic, food, and other things. This is pretty much the heroic age of the fungus folk.
ewancummins 04-22-07, 11:45 PM	The green lizardfolk are trying to save themelves by hibernating, but it won't work. Arteheyn is about to save them in a different way.
Return of the Flumph 04-22-07, 11:46 PM	"The heroic age of the fungus folk." Best line ever uttered.
Anuvrix 04-23-07, 08:15 AM	this is nice for my people. The drow have an aversion to light. Now we can free roam the world... woot
Delfedd 04-23-07, 10:08 AM	You do that. :evillaugh
Anuvrix 04-23-07, 12:18 PM	just a bit of info: Avnuk turned every soldier that resides on his personal plane into a vampire.(along with a majority of officers in the mortal realm) He now has a massive army of vampire drow, along with a vast army of regular drow... what about population sizes? ive had the drow for like 300years, and just now some are beginning to get old. how many would i have?
Return of the Flumph 04-23-07, 12:35 PM	Not as many as you'd think. Elves have long lifespans, but very slow birthrates, so their populations grow slowly.
Anuvrix 04-23-07, 01:49 PM	well let me think, how many do you startout with when you make the race? for elves, one birth each for every 20 years... if i started with 1000 i would have 656840 by now, assuming none died of unnatural causes...(minus a couple thousand...)
Evil DM Mk3 04-23-07, 02:00 PM	I think it is a case of "you have quite a few". No reason to put numbers on things, this is too abstract. For example there where several Vatti cites fairly soon after they where created.
riverrock 04-23-07, 03:07 PM	Just say no to arbitrary timelines. We can just let it go as it goes.
Evil DM Mk3 04-23-07, 03:10 PM	What do you mean? The end date? I would rather we kept to that thanks. The 100 years/month thing? I find that helps and in any case is based off AGs rulings.
riverrock 04-23-07, 03:37 PM	What do you mean? The end date? I would rather we kept to that thanks. The 100 years/month thing? I find that helps and in any case is based off AGs rulings. The end date is fine. But I can find nothing that Agent_Graves had posted that suggest 100 years/month. All I can find that relates to time is that mundane time moves faster and that time doesn't really matter to deities. Which is how it should be. One month may certainly have 100 years of action, but another may not. Deities do not function on the same temporal plane as normal creatures.
Evil DM Mk3 04-23-07, 04:09 PM	I worked it out here: Dragon age=Well I guestimated that Great wyrm would be about month five year two when they where first made, assuming that holds that was month fove so a total of 13 months till that age, of which we have seen seven... Dragons become greater wyrms at 1201 years, making the dragons about 650 at the end of this turn, 550 at the start, so old-very old. Conviently that pegs the deific month at about 100 years. 92 is the exact fugure but that assumes that they change on the dot so 100 years=celectial month looks about right. Soem roudning invloved but al of the figures where agreed by AG as OK.
riverrock 04-23-07, 04:14 PM	I can see no place on the original board where AG says this. The first place I can see this is on the OOC board, when some one asked how old the world was. I don't think making a fixed celestial month=divine year is a good idea.
Evil DM Mk3 04-23-07, 04:22 PM	When I put up the info on dragons I amde the recomendation. He said it was aceptable. As such it does not matter what people think would be good, the connection is allready there!
riverrock 04-23-07, 04:23 PM	What? He sent you a pm or something? And it doesn't matter if its a good idea or not?
ewancummins 04-23-07, 04:23 PM	I like keeping the timescale a bit vague. This is mythic stuff here- vast eons of time. Maybe the second and third year events will be a little closer together in time. Who knows? I do like keeping the end date. At that point, the world ought to be ready for play. I would probably assume that at that point the gods step back a bit and allow mortals to take center stage. That would be a good point for people to start their own campaigns using the setting. Just my two cents worth.
Evil DM Mk3 04-23-07, 04:27 PM	I don't know I kinda liked the 1 month->100 years ratio. Was mythic.
Destrieth 04-23-07, 04:29 PM	No, no it isn't mythic. When you clear away the fog and make something certain it loses its wonder. I cast my vote in with a vague reckoning of time.
Evil DM Mk3 04-23-07, 04:33 PM	I ment in terms of naming the ages ect. How MORTALS mark the passadge of time. Remember after this game is over and the setting is finished it matters sod all what gods think.
riverrock 04-23-07, 04:34 PM	Huh? So, did AG pm you, or what? I still don't see a good reason for basing the timeline on the fact that there are great wyrm dragons. A few justifications: 1. GW dragons can still exist without a single uniform number attached to every month. One month may have been 100 years; another may have been 1. 2. AG implied at the beginning that time works differently, and doesn't really matter for deities. 3. In traditional mythologies, a deities sense of time was different from mortal time. 4. It may work for GW dragons, but it screws up other things that have been occuring. For example, the world has been in darkness for 100 years, and the war between the athaches and the vaati has been going on for a long time. 5. It will mess up things in the future. As we leave mythic history and approach more traditional history, events will need to happen more rapidly. The gods won't have an increase in ap to represent this. 6. More to the point, then societies will be really stagnant. You're free to use this timeline, but I'm going not going to. Just my :twocents:
Destrieth 04-23-07, 04:34 PM	Mortals don't need an exact record of time. Do you have an exact record of everything that happened in the 4-5000 year genesis of human civilization, starting with the mesopotamians?
Evil DM Mk3 04-23-07, 04:35 PM	I supose. Hardly matters in the end does it? ;)
Evil DM Mk3 04-23-07, 04:39 PM	On a differnat note Destrieth, can you please tell me what the Ramalli (and in particular the one that was murdered) have done for you to be readying war? BRAINWAVE: OK how about this. Creatures directly tied to deiaties (such as my heralds) do age at 100 years/divine month but ceratures not bound age at a differant unspecified rate probaly tied to the overall power of faith in the world, explaining the slow down in the later times.
Destrieth 04-23-07, 04:43 PM	Dude, no one's readying war. The Alusidari were created with vengeance in mind. The Rimalli run around battle fields killing for no reason except 'to maintain balance.' Thus the Alusidari are sworn to deliver revenge for those who cannot deliver it themselves. The 'forces' gathered are standing in front of the portal and consist of IV-001, Wyyfred (two heroes of their respective populations) and 50 or so inevitables. Not exactly a warhost. They're sitting there preventing the exit of your Rimalli to muck with things they have no business mucking with.
riverrock 04-23-07, 04:44 PM	On a differnat note Destrieth, can you please tell me what the Ramalli (and in particular the one that was murdered) have done for you to be readying war? BRAINWAVE: OK how about this. Creatures directly tied to deiaties (such as my heralds) do age at 100 years/divine month but ceratures not bound age at a differant unspecified rate probaly tied to the overall power of faith in the world, explaining the slow down in the later times. Sure, I don't see any problems with that. I'm assuming heralds are the only creatures it applies to. (and maybe outsiders, idk)
Evil DM Mk3 04-23-07, 04:46 PM	And attacking the emisary? Without letting him speak? There are very good reasons as to why they did what they did (at least form one point of view they are good reasons.)
riverrock 04-23-07, 04:47 PM	Alusia gets grumpy easily.
Destrieth 04-23-07, 04:47 PM	Thank you riverrock. That sums it up. Firefang wasn't harmed, just kicked out of Gorgild.
Evil DM Mk3 04-23-07, 04:49 PM	:rolleye2: and now the assasins are about... Ah well. Seeing as Firefang was a bodyguard and it was the keepers and the single (unarmed but I won't push that point, anyone who has fiend folio will know wny) Rumalii who where the messingers. I don't control the Rumalii (well I do but not IC) how can I, I was haiving a mental break down then they came into existance!
riverrock 04-23-07, 04:51 PM	On a slightly related note- Should I add heralds to deity descriptions, for clarity purposes?
Destrieth 04-23-07, 04:52 PM	Then you won't object in character when they're cut down on the steps of their portal. *shrug*
Evil DM Mk3 04-23-07, 04:53 PM	OK that made as much sence as a slap in the face with a pickled herring as a UN peace treaty!! Why shouldn't I care THEY ARE THE SOULS OF MY WORSHIPERS!
Destrieth 04-23-07, 04:55 PM	Peace? Peace is a lie, there is only passion.
Evil DM Mk3 04-23-07, 04:58 PM	But the keepers had mathematical proof that they where averting genocide. Mathematical! Anyway peace is the eventual aim of the Rumalii, blanace and equality for all poitns of view to live in harmony. Likely, no, possible, well, they did it...
Destrieth 04-23-07, 05:00 PM	Don't you try your number based hoodoo on me, you rogue! I know your game. Besides, a little genocide never hurt anyone. Er. Change is a good thing anyway. Sometimes the weaker races have to be consumed for the stronger to continue. Otherwise they both will atrophy.
Evil DM Mk3 04-23-07, 05:01 PM	Hey morintu you heard it here first, the Vatti deserved to die! :D
Destrieth 04-23-07, 05:02 PM	Just because I didn't object to it didn't mean I caused it. If you can find anywhere in the post where I did anything bad involving the Vaati, I will paypal you ten dollars.
Evil DM Mk3 04-23-07, 05:05 PM	Ditto my friend, so long as the motive is shown to be that of malice.
Destrieth 04-23-07, 05:08 PM	I'm sorry, what? You'll paypal me ten dollars if I find where I tried to off the Vaati?
Evil DM Mk3 04-23-07, 05:10 PM	No I will paypal you 10 dollars if you can find a post where I take an action that was an attempt to wipe out the Vatii.
Destrieth 04-23-07, 05:13 PM	I never said you did. Your creatures meddled in a war they had no reason to.
Evil DM Mk3 04-23-07, 05:15 PM	But they did because they felt that the extinction of the Vatii would destroy too much of the forces of order and give chaos too much power. When you live in the middle any movement of boundries SQUEEZES you.
Destrieth 04-23-07, 05:16 PM	Things move in cycles. Equilibrium can achieve itself, thanks, without a race taking upon itself to force it on the world. Edit for clarification: Regardless, you have a mistaken notion that Alusia is bringing war, and that is not the case. It would be painfully obvious if Alusia wanted open war.
Evil DM Mk3 04-23-07, 05:20 PM	No I no longer think there is to be open war. And the problem with your sentiments is one it kind of ignore the fact that those cycles CRUSH more than they help, especially if they are in the middle and second it requires my race to commit universal suicide.:(
Destrieth 04-23-07, 05:23 PM	You need to get the idea out of your head that there is some universal balance that needs to be maintained. One race dying won't make the world collapse on itself. :P And you could always guide your race into a more useful role that doesn't involve sticking their nose where it doesn't belong? Just an idea.
Evil DM Mk3 04-23-07, 05:23 PM	By the way roughly how powerful is Wyyren anyway? Do the Nephlim have stats anywhere? EDIT (for clarification):This level of involvment is rare (I said that in the post) the prefer to stick to the behind the scenes politicing to do their job. And why would it go in circles? Why don't we need a race (well RACES as it allready stands, more so soon) to do that? Where was AP spent on that? The Ramalii are a divine force that exist to maintain the balance, so patently it exists, even if it is only in their minds :P double :P.
Destrieth 04-23-07, 05:25 PM	They're a custom race, ECL 6. Fey. Wyyfred is a 14th level knight, Lawful Neutral. His description can be found in... er... the one post I made on the page.
Evil DM Mk3 04-23-07, 05:27 PM	CR? More useful for judging power levels. As it stands the force assembled is a minour issue then. I ahve not yet given stats to prominent Aurmach but it is likely there are capable of squaring off aginst Wyyren. I read teh descripotion, just no stats... EDIT: HANG ON you have knights and other lawful creatures violating parly and other honourable, you know what I know the come back here so forget it.
Destrieth 04-23-07, 05:30 PM	Shrug. It matters not. And why wouldn't it go in circles? Why was there no AP spent? I didn't think the Laws of Nature needed to be clarified. But as for CR? I don't know, perhaps 16 or 17.
Evil DM Mk3 04-23-07, 05:31 PM	WHA? Nothing has come out of that portal, well, nothing detectable. The keeper walkign around is from earlier. Also why do you assume that, even if they where coming though, they would die so easily? I did post CRs ect. EDIT: I didn't think that what happened to souls after death needed clarifing, apparently it did. We are working from raw nothing here remeber.
Destrieth 04-23-07, 05:33 PM	I was making a flavor generalization for RP purposes. If you'd like to crush them, go right ahead. I wouldn't mind all that much. It's just a game, dude. :P
Evil DM Mk3 04-23-07, 05:35 PM	Well the thing is, it kinda hurts the overall balance if things if such a guy gets offed. I mean you killed the most junour of the Aurmach (who as not alive at the tiem fo the fight anyway, kinda like punching me for somthing King Henry VIIth did..) wheras this guy, a bit too high up. Is there anyone lower down that would make a better equal depreciation target? (um, er, LOL)
Destrieth 04-23-07, 05:37 PM	Uh. I guess you're in a bit of a pickle then? I don't know, it's your problem. I'm just here to shake things up.
Evil DM Mk3 04-23-07, 05:38 PM	No seriously is there? Or somthing expencive in need of stealing? (There will be somthing but I can't decide your stuff for you, kinda rude)
Destrieth 04-23-07, 05:40 PM	I don't know. The operative word there is need; I would say no. I think it's your problem to work out the solution to. :P EDIT: Since I have no interest in maintaining this 'balance', I'm just going to go with no. Go find someone else's stuff to knock off if it bothers you, or make up something for your Rumalli to pick on. Alusia is fickle, prone to bouts of anger, and doesn't buy into this global idea of unity and balance and flowers and puppies. She believes in personal fury and righteous battles.
Evil DM Mk3 04-23-07, 05:43 PM	Hang on you answer the cries of those who have been wronged? Yes?
Destrieth 04-23-07, 05:45 PM	She answers the cries of those who have been wronged of those she likes, anyway. As I said, fickle.
Kirtanus_Albacron 04-23-07, 06:36 PM	Just to let everybody know, the sun trees, which i like to call glow wood, act as mini-suns, nourishing the plants around them, and they are also as strong as ironwood.
Evil DM Mk3 04-23-07, 06:44 PM	Obviously they still need to be transported. Depending on the size of the world (big, it is a world) and the size of the area they grow on (I understood that it was fairly small) a lot of the world is going to lose most of it's plant and animal life by the time it gets there. Also what effect is this ahving on the weather? IRL we would have had a lot of rain as the air cooled followed by a lack of any precipatation and wind becasue there is no sun to casue them.
Anuvrix 04-23-07, 07:35 PM	I figure i started with about 5000 drow, they had built and populated the capitol city in Arancix when i made them. so about now.... the math works out to be..... 3,284,200 drow are alive today, about 1/3 are soldiers. nearly 1/2 of the soldiers are vampires. 500,000 vampire soldiers 500,000 regular drow soldiers
riverrock 04-23-07, 07:39 PM	I figure i started with about 5000 drow, they had built and populated the capitol city in Arancix when i made them. so about now.... the math works out to be..... 3,284,200 drow are alive today, about 1/3 are soldiers. nearly 1/2 of the soldiers are vampires. 500,000 vampire soldiers 500,000 regular drow soldiers Dare I ask how you figured this out? I'm not disputing it, I'd just like to know.
Evil DM Mk3 04-23-07, 07:42 PM	Yes. I now agree with you Riverrock. Vauge it good. (especialy considering that youa re in REAL trouble with such a a high percentage of your populous as vampires.)
Anuvrix 04-23-07, 07:46 PM	This is assuming one child concieved for each family every 20 years. Over 300 years the popluation would have been increased by half 15 times. Starting with 5000, it ends up 3.28 million drow total. About one third of my drow are soldiers, and one half of them are in my personal plane. The ones in my personal plane are vampires. So 1 million soldiers total, 500,000 vampires, 500,000 regular army. the vampires' expansion is controlled, They cannot breed, so the breeding population has been decreased by 500,000. so next round its 2.78 mil x 1.5
d24478667 04-23-07, 07:47 PM	Seeing as I changed in a flavorful way to take down the evolutions, do I get the 12 AP I spent on them back? Or simply the base three? And I am only asking for this turn; making sure no one thinks I am asking for 12 base AP.
Delfedd 04-23-07, 08:27 PM	Ok.. Um... Check it out. you've got 500,000 randomly appearing vamps. Which you didn't mention before. The instant they step on the mortal plane, they are assailed with whispering voices (Namely ME.) They would probably slay every one of their drow compatriots to save their slimy undead hides.
Evil DM Mk3 04-23-07, 08:29 PM	How Are You Feeding Them? I assume you are trying to run it off a donour system right? Well assume that each vamp needs four pints a day of blood. One in every six of your drow is a vamp, menaing that 4/5ths of them will be down by a pint of blood on any given day. Have you any idea how weak that is going to leave them. In britian they don't want you to donate more than 3 times A YEAR! Let alone one and a half times a week!
riverrock 04-23-07, 08:30 PM	Also, we decided 1 month =/= 100 years. Couldn't you just say "a fairly large amount?" Is it really that important to stat it out like that?
Evil DM Mk3 04-23-07, 08:33 PM	Partially the reason why I put the logic up, let us keep this vauge.
Return of the Flumph 04-23-07, 08:54 PM	Shouldn't subverting the vampires be a Guide Populace action?
Return of the Flumph 04-23-07, 09:04 PM	I have an idea for determining the outcome of intergod combat. It requires quite a bit of cooperation and trust, but that's what this game is all about. The two dueling gods either post a request on the OOC thread or PM another player, to act as an impartial ref. The ref, wherever in the world he or she happens to be sitting (if s/he has a d20 handy) rolls a d20 for each god and tells them the results. Each god adds its own class level and divine rank to the roll. Whoever totals higher wins the fight. Good?
Delfedd 04-23-07, 09:08 PM	I agree with Evil DM with this. I think that vampires, being part of my portfolio, wouldn't take ap to influence.
Evil DM Mk3 04-23-07, 09:08 PM	Terrible. Removes all roleplaying from the system.
Destrieth 04-23-07, 09:37 PM	I concur. I think that everyone needs to take an objective eye here and not value their stuff so darn much. When you distance yourself from this little experiment everything becomes much more interesting. Conflict is the primary element in human drama, and if everyone is attached to their stuff people will just walk on eggshells and stagnate. So RP is fine; I honestly think that if you get attacked and it's a well-formed attack you should either die or split into some new gods or what-have-you. None of this d20 combat rubbish!
Janusunaj 04-23-07, 09:44 PM	To me this is something more than role playing. Its being a body part of a living breathing, creature.
Return of the Flumph 04-23-07, 09:52 PM	Just putting it out there. I didn't mean for all battles, anyway. Only the ones where both sides are somewhat evenly matched and no one has a major tactical advantage. Its not a question of "which player beats which other player" so much as "in this situation, which god should be the victor."
jamvid 04-23-07, 10:36 PM	To me this is something more than role playing. Its being a body part of a living breathing, creature. I guess I'm the hand... I should probably tell everyone that I won't be able to post or see the thread for about a week (until monday), but I'll be back by Tuesday.
Evil DM Mk3 04-24-07, 07:07 AM	I guess I'm the hand... :doh:
Anuvrix 04-24-07, 08:10 AM	Vampires don't have to have 3 pints of blood each day, one a day would do fine, and they can go for over a week without drinking blood. I could spend a little ap on something that would feed them all, no damage to the populous....
d24478667 04-24-07, 10:20 AM	Seeing as I changed in a flavorful way to take down the evolutions, do I get the 12 AP I spent on them back? Or simply the base three? And I am only asking for this turn; making sure no one thinks I am asking for 12 base AP. Seeing as no one answered me the first time, here it is again.
Evil DM Mk3 04-24-07, 10:22 AM	I would assume you had the 12 AP, but it is not my job.
Evil DM Mk3 04-24-07, 10:23 AM	Seeing as our referee has abondoned the thread we may need another. I nomiate Delfedd.
Delfedd 04-24-07, 10:32 AM	Oh, why thank you. I graciously accept. Unless there's objections. Yeah, you get 9 AP back, because, and correct me if I'm wrong, you used the three extra AP from the evolutions to evolve again.
d24478667 04-24-07, 10:40 AM	Plus my base, correct? The reason I ask is because it will influence what I do.
Delfedd 04-24-07, 11:21 AM	No, not plus your base. You used 9 ap this turn, much of it saved up from previous turns. I'm not entirely sure this is right, so if you can send me a post which says otherwise, i'll rule that way. 9 AP is enough, right?
d24478667 04-24-07, 11:48 AM	Yeah, it should be; I just wanted to know the limit.
Aramil_Donel 04-24-07, 12:21 PM	on thursday, i'm joining Avnuk in the conquest of the prime material, the orcs are itching for a fight...
Anuvrix 04-24-07, 12:23 PM	thank you, btw, i will be hoding a meeting itg for any to come, we will find if any will join, and if any would like to be generally left alone.
Evil DM Mk3 04-24-07, 12:31 PM	What is the name of these ball things?
Delfedd 04-24-07, 01:32 PM	I keep telling you... your vampires are eating your allies. Not in the fun "Make more vampires" way either. More like the "Slaughtering people because the voices tell me to" way. Not widespred... just a few of them.
Evil DM Mk3 04-24-07, 01:42 PM	My willo the wisp is shiny... Pure perfectly reflective surface.
Evil DM Mk3 04-24-07, 01:50 PM	I occurs that we dont have much good and evil in the world, mostly we ahve lawful and neutral, there isn't even a lot of chaotic around. Is this a problem?
Evil DM Mk3 04-24-07, 01:52 PM	How do we deal with gods secrets, I mean If Kur-ah does somthing in secret such that no one else knowns do I post it in the main thread? Or this thread with a WARNING DO NOT USE FUTURE DM MATERIAL warning on it?
Destrieth 04-24-07, 01:53 PM	Naw. Everything is pretty calm right now. But there's always the possibility something could happen to polarize the gods. And you could always just say you're doing something in secret.
Evil DM Mk3 04-24-07, 01:55 PM	At the moment that seems to be the arch-mediators of reality getting the tar beaten out of them. Not that anyone cares that they are getting beaten for trying to save a race, or that so far the onyl one to die was not alive at the time. /rant I supose so, but it might be better to leave some Good angels, otherwise what is the point?
Destrieth 04-24-07, 01:56 PM	I did. I didn't move them all. Note the word some in my post...
Evil DM Mk3 04-24-07, 01:57 PM	Kay, it's just like, you know. ANGELS:angel:
Evil DM Mk3 04-24-07, 01:58 PM	Thing is this gonna be, you know, kinda big. Like a plane, race and conspiricy level kinda big.
Anuvrix 04-24-07, 02:03 PM	im solving the hunger problem for the vampires by unleashing them for feeding on any non-drow mortal... I am about to mix things up, give the world history some flavor. Yay War:invasion: I only hope for the sake of morintu's people that they :surrender btw dont throw a:tantrum: im ready to:fight!:
Destrieth 04-24-07, 02:05 PM	dude, I don't know what you're thinking. Going after a deity with ten ranks above you with direct force isn't smart.
Evil DM Mk3 04-24-07, 02:06 PM	HANG ON. Are you making a bee line for the Vatti? First do they even have blood? Second you do realise that THREE gods and a semi-idependant race (even if their leaders do get wiped out) have set out to protect them... There's brave isn't it?
Evil DM Mk3 04-24-07, 02:08 PM	BTW to deal with Morintu first ensure that you say "yes sir" when he is angry at you. Find a few other gods who have gripes and get ready for some schemes, possilby of the assassination or improsonment veriaty. Air god, traped in teh earth, for all time, must use that one. Good myth for earthquakes.
Destrieth 04-24-07, 02:10 PM	The only problem with that is Morintu has a lot of friends.
Evil DM Mk3 04-24-07, 02:11 PM	Really? I count three, maybe three and a half. One or two could easily be leavered away if they are going to stick to their RPing guns.
Destrieth 04-24-07, 02:14 PM	Morintu has relations with - Amon, God of Good and his brother. (DvR 20) Arteheyn, River Maiden and his wife. (DvR 16?) Kakavindus, the False Dragon. (DvR 18) Alusia (DvR 6) I'm not terribly strong but those top three... I dunno. I'm pretty sure if Morintu asked they'd do something for him.
Return of the Flumph 04-24-07, 02:16 PM	Unfortunately, the only three gods with the disposition to oppose Morintu are either temporarily insane (Kur-ah), permanently insane (Pholtone), or in hiding after Morintu beat the **** out of them (Rythael).
Destrieth 04-24-07, 02:17 PM	Hahaha. Well said Flumph. Morintu has a pretty impressive batting average when it comes to conflicts.
Evil DM Mk3 04-24-07, 02:33 PM	Well If offered power I am sure that the flase dragon might betray him. His wife may be convinced if enough evidance (prehaps skewed) of his violent and destructive tendancies could be gathered. By the way I am no longer mad, or rather critically depressed. SOMEONE actualy felt that finding out what was wrong would be a good idea, rather than just going "Ooo Looky sad god ooo." I pegged myslef as the half, Amon seems very distant with him.
Destrieth 04-24-07, 02:41 PM	And where does the power rest that could so convince Kakavindus? With Amon? With you? Don't make me laugh.
Evil DM Mk3 04-24-07, 02:47 PM	Even without thinking about it much I can see at least three avinues of aproach for the plan. And don't forget Kakavindus is allied with BOTH sides. (NOTE I do not adcovate or advise here, I merly point out that it is possible if he wanted to try, it can't be massively fun for him ATM you know)
Destrieth 04-24-07, 02:49 PM	That all depends on what you see as the sides.
Evil DM Mk3 04-24-07, 02:53 PM	True I mean Morintu is just a friend, the other side of the coin is a formal alignance with information trade.
Evil DM Mk3 04-24-07, 02:54 PM	((Why are WE agruing over this? As the lines are currently drawn we would be on the same side)):confused:
Destrieth 04-24-07, 02:56 PM	I'm just offering discourse is all. That and saying why Morintu is probably going to decorate his portion of Enfermia with Avnuk's bodyparts.
Evil DM Mk3 04-24-07, 02:57 PM	Well I supose it only makes sence that I can see this side better than you (ie the possible betrayal and separation), I have better information.
Destrieth 04-24-07, 02:58 PM	Mm-hm.
Evil DM Mk3 04-24-07, 03:00 PM	What with a subrace of spies and the possible futures in books...
Kirtanus_Albacron 04-24-07, 03:12 PM	Unfortunately, the only three gods with the disposition to oppose Morintu are either temporarily insane (Kur-ah), permanently insane (Pholtone), or in hiding after Morintu beat the **** out of them (Rythael). So true..... :rofl:
Delfedd 04-24-07, 03:36 PM	Yup. WE NEED THE FREAKING SUN! I'M GOING TO START MAKING THE WIND REALLY TEMPERATE AND RADIOACTIVE IF WE DON'T GET IT SOON! *ahem* Also, be warned Avnuk. Your vampires are essentially ALL mine come next turn. I'll write ways to kill vampires in the stars, I'll make a race of stake monsters, I'll have holy water elementals engulf you... Etc. Heh Now I want there to be a machine that fills a vampires mouth with holy waifers and cuts off their heads.
Return of the Flumph 04-24-07, 03:40 PM	Also, be warned Avnuk. Your vampires are essentially ALL mine come next turn. I'll write ways to kill vampires in the stars, I'll make a race of stake monsters, I'll have holy water elementals engulf you... :heehee :heehee :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:
d24478667 04-24-07, 04:03 PM	How much AP does it take to make an artifact?
Anuvrix 04-24-07, 04:04 PM	there isn't much you can do against 1million soldiers, vampires or not, if you crate a race, it would take at least a turn for any formidable force to be made. I already have a intermediate wargod on my side. Along with any others who have beef with morintu. st the moment, the only credible super strong god (no offense to evilDm) is morintu. he is the strongest, and it is in the nature of the weaker to uprise. he made the liches, i (while searching for the secret of the liches) discovered how to make the Vampire. BTW i have the deathbound domain, and i assume that means i can bind spirits and whatnot to stuff. The whole Skylord under the earth......... possible.
Return of the Flumph 04-24-07, 04:06 PM	How much AP does it take to make an artifact? For just a weapon? None.
Evil DM Mk3 04-24-07, 04:08 PM	Didn't morinu spend 3 on punishment?
d24478667 04-24-07, 04:09 PM	3? Sounds good.
Anuvrix 04-24-07, 04:09 PM	I spent 3 on the chains. Where is Kakavindus.... i havent seen him post for a while????
Evil DM Mk3 04-24-07, 04:10 PM	st the moment, the only credible super strong god (no offense to evilDm) is morintu. Whilst I may not have quite as much power I do have MUCH more knowladge. The main reason why I am not a creadale super strong god is that I ahve not moved that way.
Delfedd 04-24-07, 04:40 PM	there isn't much you can do against 1million soldiers, vampires or not, if you crate a race, it would take at least a turn for any formidable force to be made. A race of stakes is entirely a joke. I CAN control vampires. If you had a voice whispering in your head, every day of every week of every month of every year of every century, you would go crazy as well. st the moment, the only credible super strong god (no offense to evilDm) is morintu. he is the strongest, and it is in the nature of the weaker to uprise. he made the liches, i (while searching for the secret of the liches) discovered how to make the Vampire. Thus Vampires are crappy copies of a Lich. BTW i have the deathbound domain, and i assume that means i can bind spirits and whatnot to stuff. It typically means people who are bound to death. The spells give you abillities similar to the undead. The whole Skylord under the earth......... possible. Nope. :P I will definately agree with evil DM. While Morintu has a lot of temporal power, he does lack the immense knowledge of everything ever that Kur-ah has
Evil DM Mk3 04-24-07, 04:44 PM	Nope. :P No it is doable, in perfect flavour too you would have a hard time fighting it off in RP, I even drafted a post of it happening at the height of the leyline theft arc. Wow. Is it worring I refer to each of out squalbes as a differant arc?
riverrock 04-24-07, 04:50 PM	there isn't much you can do against 1million soldiers, vampires or not, if you crate a race, it would take at least a turn for any formidable force to be made. I already have a intermediate wargod on my side. Along with any others who have beef with morintu. st the moment, the only credible super strong god (no offense to evilDm) is morintu. he is the strongest, and it is in the nature of the weaker to uprise. he made the liches, i (while searching for the secret of the liches) discovered how to make the Vampire. BTW i have the deathbound domain, and i assume that means i can bind spirits and whatnot to stuff. The whole Skylord under the earth......... possible. You don't necessarily have one million vampire soldiers, because we decided to keep timelines vague. I don't have access to the book that deathbound came from, so I don't know what it entails, so I don't know whether or not you'd get special powers. I assume it's really just a necromancy variant domain anyway, nothing special like binding spirits.
Evil DM Mk3 04-24-07, 04:57 PM	It puts the limit for creating undead up form 2xCL to 3xCL. Spells are almost all non core but focus on giving fear/undead like abilites, doing undead like things to enamies and making undead better. Interesting to note one of them is "Fangs of the vampire king".
riverrock 04-24-07, 04:59 PM	So basically just a necromancy variant? I guess it would just make him abetter necro then.
Evil DM Mk3 04-24-07, 05:02 PM	Necro and self augmentation yes. VERY good at making them (hence my recomendation for makign vampries. Not inventing, manifacturing. Differant feel)
Anuvrix 04-24-07, 05:48 PM	The vampires are undead, but that does not mean that you can whisper in their heads. You have no control over anything i have created. The divine talking thing only works over a set distance, and on YOUR worshippers..... I highly doubt that any vampires would worship the skylord. You have no influence over my people. Drop it. (They are undead and cant go insane, Insanity is a mind influencing effect. Undead are immune. The vampires are always of generally calm mind)
Evil DM Mk3 04-24-07, 05:51 PM	Insanity teh SPELL is a mind affecting affect. Insanty is a state of mind, just like udead are immune to fear effects, but can feel afraid, becasue natural fear is just an emotion.
Delfedd 04-24-07, 05:51 PM	As long as they are within a 16 mile radius of ANYTHING with my symbol on it (read: anything I've made or influenced... sometimes they just drop it around randomly,) Morintu would be able to speak with any vampire in that radius. And If I burn AP on it, I can do it. Silly Deathgod. Are you mad that I have Undead and you're stuck with deathbound? aww... I'm still going to eat you. I promise that. EDIT: Thank you Evil DM. I would be fine with having you as my DM, despite your natural Evil tendancies. The deity can speak to any of its own worshipers, and to anyone within one mile per rank away from a site dedicated to the deity, or within one mile per rank away from a statue or other likeness of the deity. I love literacy. Oh, and emphasis mine.
Anuvrix 04-24-07, 05:54 PM	You couldn't eat a pop tart. Let alone the god of Necromancy AND the god of War.
Anuvrix 04-24-07, 05:57 PM	If Morintu is pi**ed off..... He should be happy he's not pi**ed on.
Delfedd 04-24-07, 06:00 PM	Ok. That's IT. You have insulted me for the last time. Prepare for your doom Death god. Seriously, how do we handle the death of a god? This is not just me metagaming either. This is morintu getting more and more ticked that this god interrupts him in the middle of important things with threats and pleas for help. You forget. The god of necromancy is a lesser deity. The god of War is an intermediate deity. I am a greater diety. I also enjoy how you don't admit you're wrong, and resort to petty insults to detract from your wrongness.
Evil DM Mk3 04-24-07, 06:02 PM	Evil DMs are the best DMs, especially if they enjoy sport. (http://uncyclopedia.org/wiki/Game_master) Oh and get ready for a star wars quote if you start attacking death realted gods.
Anuvrix 04-24-07, 06:04 PM	You have insulted me for the last time. . Not yet.... Come thursday, you and your creations are dead. (morintu plays the skin flute)
Delfedd 04-24-07, 06:04 PM	Yeah yeah. Except then he will know I can beat him, will beat him, and will do it again.
Destrieth 04-24-07, 06:05 PM	I will lend my spear to Morintu's side as well. Angels and nephilim alike.
Anuvrix 04-24-07, 06:08 PM	Yeah yeah. Except then he will know I can beat him, will beat him, and will do it again. Doesn't change the fact tha you smoke monkey pole.:embarrass
Evil DM Mk3 04-24-07, 06:08 PM	Don't push it too far, if we end up with a huge inblance here I (or rather the Rilmani) may have to step in. Tis what they do. Like the Nephlim. Also don't KILL a god of UNDEATH!
Destrieth 04-24-07, 06:08 PM	Avnuk, stop being a jerk.
Delfedd 04-24-07, 06:09 PM	wow. I believe your alignment is now chaotic stupid. Why would you tell us this stuff? to get revenge on you early? I can do it, you know.
Anuvrix 04-24-07, 06:11 PM	sorry, couldn't help it....... But i am going to wage war against the prominent powers that be. (evilDM not included: emotional troubles) if you all see fit for me to end up the first comatose god..... oh well. I can still influence the drow, and have them keep fighting.
riverrock 04-24-07, 06:16 PM	Just a quick interjection- If a deity dies, their player will get to pick one of two options: 1. They can pick a god available on the list of open deities. 2. They can be reconstitued as a new god. If they choose option "2," I will pick a domain that relates to their death or something like that. Keep in mind that they will be a different god, not a new version of their old god.
Delfedd 04-24-07, 06:16 PM	You know what I have? I have ONE EXTRA AP! HAHAHAHA CRAZYEVILLAUGH! I Wonder who i'm going to use it on......................... Avnuk
Evil DM Mk3 04-24-07, 06:18 PM	BTW the quote starts "If you strike me down" And my emotion problems are more or less over.
Anuvrix 04-24-07, 06:19 PM	And if i were to die, and come back, i would wipe the slate clean... i am only acting as a god of necromancy would. Sorry about the insults..... got caught up in the moment....... A necromancers tend to get jealous... Avnuk was origionally ticked off at the creation of the liches. What reason would the Skylord have for making an undead anyway?
Anuvrix 04-24-07, 06:21 PM	If i chose option 2.... would i start with like vengeance or something like that????
Destrieth 04-24-07, 06:23 PM	Dude. I'm vengeance. Do you even read what other people post or do?
riverrock 04-24-07, 06:24 PM	It would depend on a variety of things, such as manner of death, who killed you, etc, etc. Not neccesarily vengeance.
Delfedd 04-24-07, 06:24 PM	What reason? Because I knew that you would abuse that power. Seriously, in character. That's what I posted. With words. And letters. And such.
d24478667 04-24-07, 06:30 PM	I am also going to help Morintu if needed; I also am starting to want to kill Avnuk, and that would be a much more interesting war.
Delfedd 04-24-07, 06:31 PM	Yeah. Since his shock troops are already done.
riverrock 04-24-07, 06:34 PM	NOT millions of people. NO. Must we go through this discussion again? Also, I think your bending the definition of innocents a little bit. Come'on, creations of the god of necromancy and natives of a plane of corruption.
Anuvrix 04-24-07, 06:38 PM	still, nearly all of the drow are either dead, or servants of morintu now. by innocent i meant many were just civilians, the general ratio of civ to soldier is 3 to 1. tons were killed, for the reason of just to be killed. i think his alignment should change to evil.
Destrieth 04-24-07, 06:39 PM	I wasn't aware that killing evil creatures made you evil. I could even argue that what he did is a good act, what with Riverrock's point and all. You know. Corrupted plane and god of necromancy.
Evil DM Mk3 04-24-07, 06:47 PM	It is still the unprovoked slaughter of a lot of helpless civilians
Anuvrix 04-24-07, 06:48 PM	It is still the unprovoked slaughter of a lot of helpless civilians :eek: :( :weep: that's what im saying.
Return of the Flumph 04-24-07, 06:53 PM	Hang on, did he brainwash ALL the vampires, or just the ones who were part of the army that invaded the prime material? If the later, most of the drow are fine.
Anuvrix 04-24-07, 06:55 PM	no vampires have started attacking yet. i havent guided the populace to war. the vampires were still living inside of the drow cities. only a whisper of a coming war had spread to the people yet.
Return of the Flumph 04-24-07, 06:55 PM	Okay. Yeah, that is kind of evil. Morintu has done evil things before, though. Quite a few times.
Evil DM Mk3 04-24-07, 07:01 PM	Don't make me rant aobut balance again!!!:P
Anuvrix 04-24-07, 07:01 PM	if morintu think he can get away with it unscathed.... i have one thing to say it starts with a dee, followed by a dee, followed by a dee.
riverrock 04-24-07, 07:03 PM	Doomsday Demolition Derby?
Evil DM Mk3 04-24-07, 07:04 PM	if morintu think he can get away with it unscathed.... i have one thing to say it starts with a dee, followed by a dee, followed by a dee. :confused:
Anuvrix 04-24-07, 07:05 PM	Its from mind of mencia, dee dee dee ( sort of means retarded) put it in for flavor.
Evil DM Mk3 04-24-07, 07:06 PM	What is going to happen if a god dies? Contemporary scources sugest either a new god being spawned form the ashes, the conciousness being separated form reality (Those of you who have Tome of Magic know what that is) or a VERY VERY BIG EXPLOSION. The first or second are funner.
riverrock 04-24-07, 07:07 PM	Just a quick interjection- If a deity dies, their player will get to pick one of two options: 1. They can pick a god available on the list of open deities. 2. They can be reconstitued as a new god. If they choose option "2," I will pick a domain that relates to their death or something like that. Keep in mind that they will be a different god, not a new version of their old god. This will be at least part of it.
Evil DM Mk3 04-24-07, 07:20 PM	Did I get sent a willo the wisp yet? :( Was I left out?:weep: BTW did anyone follow the link on my post about evil DMs? http://uncyclopedia.org/wiki/Game_master There it is again. I wrote part of it :D. And the Role playing game villains page it links to.
d24478667 04-24-07, 07:29 PM	Everyone got them; Morintu's just had a message as well. THey were sent out right after he made them. And I did read the article :rofl:
Evil DM Mk3 04-24-07, 07:39 PM	What about the one it linked to, about role playing game villains?
ewancummins 04-24-07, 07:40 PM	Killing evil aligned monsters[ assuming these drow are like standard drow, then they are evil aligned monsters] isn't usually an evil act. Perhaps some weren't evil, but that's neither here nor there. A lawful neutral god can be ruthless and pragmatic. Morintu is a god of law , not of mercy and kindness. Can't see why his alignment should shift. If he had commanded the vamps to torture all the drow, now that might be a different matter. As it was, he just eliminated a threat to order in the most efficient way possible. Besides , is Ry'theal evil for denying the world sunlight? That's doubtless killed many, but he isn't changing to CE. Perhaps Anurvix should challenge Morintu for the portfolio of undeath? Take the Deathbound domain? Something to contest Morintu's overlordship of the undead. I'm sure you can figure out an in game solution. The god of necromancers really does need some power over the undead, after all.
Evil DM Mk3 04-24-07, 07:42 PM	He has deathbond, in any case the queston is not about killing evil creatures, it is about unleashing a wave of unrealenting evil over a civilian population. That is cutting it pretty close.
Destrieth 04-24-07, 07:44 PM	I think he put it perfectly. He eliminated a threat in the most efficient way possible; he didn't do it out of malice, he simply saw an opening and exploited it. He is in no way obliged to show mercy or give succor to those who ask for it.
Anuvrix 04-24-07, 07:46 PM	true, the god of necromancy should have ended up with undead domain. with the undead under his control, he probably might have become equal with the other gods.... but morintu took it, and now has thousnds of vampires...
Delfedd 04-24-07, 07:47 PM	Yeah. Think about necromancy before undead where made? "I use... FEAR!" "So basically... you're an enchanter?" "NO! I'm a necromancer!" "What's the difference?" "I have power over the dead?" "Can you raise the dead?" "No... only clerics can do that." "So... what can you do with dead people?" "Dunno." Shouldn't the necromancer god have made undead instead of elves? Why are drow so important to you?
Evil DM Mk3 04-24-07, 07:49 PM	Hang on, Morintu drove the vampires mad right? So now you have a load of mad vampires. Morintu may have been more powerful thatn you but I feel going much further than that is god moding. Hang on... Seriously though this is too much. This is a colaborative project you can't just take his creations just becasue they are undead. Look at the standard DnD panthoen, how many gods with undead in their portfolos are there there? Besides he does hav epower over undead, as it currently stands he is much better at making the things than Morintu and better at augumenting them too.
Delfedd 04-24-07, 07:51 PM	Fair enough. But they're crazy now.
Evil DM Mk3 04-24-07, 07:53 PM	And? Sane vampires lack that certain somthing. Heck sane drow lack that certain somthing... Say I don't supose all that mayhem entitles me to the blance domain? No?
Delfedd 04-24-07, 08:02 PM	Yup. But Avnuk said that they where organized and sane. Very organized. Sure, they worship avnuk, but they're completely bonkers.
Evil DM Mk3 04-24-07, 08:05 PM	Ah hang on they are racialy insane with good mental scores and a ridgid social structure. That kind of reliable insanity can be VERY potent if used right, it's liek you ahve given all vampires everwhere really good lateral thinking.
Anuvrix 04-24-07, 08:08 PM	in your post you said you taught them to worship you.... and kill their brethren. i get bi*ched at for taking lost souls, and you get a *stern-talking-to" for slaying and converting nearly an entire race. no offence to any one, but this blows.
Destrieth 04-24-07, 08:10 PM	Do you know why? Morintu has seniority, divine rank, and each of his posts have legitimate reasons. He doesn't make pointless power grabs; he took and made liches because it solved two problems: the death of his strongest vaati, and your abuse of it. Not to mention, he spent ACTION POINTS.
Evil DM Mk3 04-24-07, 08:11 PM	I will note here that my overall stance on both issues was the same. Make it clear whera was happening. The eventual result (unclaimed souls go to him, vamps are insane) is fine. Besides why LET them slaughter your guys. It is in your plane where all your powerful clerics live. Give dem vamps (preferably the most pwoerful ones as the others are likely to be thralled to them) the b*tch slap of an unlife-time. For the record I felt that yoru move ont eh unclaimed souls was fair and legitimate. We had all forgotten. You remembered. That is fine and dandy.
Delfedd 04-24-07, 08:11 PM	Mostly because you invaded ALL of us. it's just you versus me here. I'm showing you my power. I'm changing things from worship to me to just insanity.
Evil DM Mk3 04-24-07, 08:15 PM	Hey don't compalin, try and get madness as a (very cool) domain (it is bound to be contageous up the prayers) try all kinds of freaksih experimetns. Morintu is the god of undead? Really? Did he invent vampires? No. Wraiths? No. Alips? Specters? No. Find a way of stealing the secrets of lichdom form him! You can do it! Set out to out do him! So you can't take him in an out and out fight? So don't try! There are all kinds of truly freaky undead in various books. Waht about the Necroplapean from Libris Mortis, basicly just undead people, that is all that happens, one of the most dangerous undead out there (cause very little power is needed to make them and gods they cna be ANYTHING!)
Anuvrix 04-24-07, 08:16 PM	would it cost any ap to "bi*ch slap" the vampires from my realm? Turn them into godless creatures, insane and slaughtering any mortal they come into contact with? ok. It would still take time to rebuild the drow, and smite the excess from the vampire ranks. my high powered clerics were turned into the vampires.... pretty much every one of power was turned into vampires.... i had not anticipated the forced betrayal of the vampires. Completely devastated the drow.
Destrieth 04-24-07, 08:17 PM	sounds to me like a lack of foresight, then. With all of the smack talk you were doing, you should have expected some backlash.
Evil DM Mk3 04-24-07, 08:20 PM	And now the drow have a reason to hate all those flithy surface dwellers! Hang on, deaites get their domain spells as spell likes at will right? One of the spell likes you have lets you return undead to undeath. Slap them down, put their bodies in a safe place (say a HUGE pit, with a lid, totaly air tight), bring em back and give them a physical talking to. And I think the attacking of the vamps would probably come under pure RP. Also (wink wink nudge nudge) didn't you have a sect who refused to become undead, wishing to controlthem, not to shamble about with them. A cult that wants eternal LIFE? Use them. (/wink wink nudge nudge) TO everyone else, if he can say all his lcerics did, he can say some didn't.
Ronix 04-24-07, 08:28 PM	off topic.....if gods can use spells of their domain and spell like abilities at will, what would the spells and abilities of Elvunil, god of oracle and pact?:confused:
Evil DM Mk3 04-24-07, 08:30 PM	Ill PM the list to you
ewancummins 04-24-07, 08:45 PM	Deathbound domain from Libris Mortis! Figure out a cool way to aquire it next month, using AP. If you grab that domain, I'd argue that mastery of the undead is now a divided power, and NO ONE could do what Morintu just did.His power came becuase he had undivided mastery of the undead, as I see it. You're the god of necromancers, dammit. Rebound from this one. If nothing else, you've got plenty o' corpses to work with.
Evil DM Mk3 04-24-07, 08:48 PM	DAMN IT he allready has the domain!
ewancummins 04-24-07, 08:51 PM	I know. I just noticed!!!! Gosh, I feel silly.
ewancummins 04-24-07, 08:53 PM	I defer to the referees, of course. Still since he has Necromancy and Deathbound, shouldn't he be able to control his vamps? Maybe Morintu overpowered him this time, but still.....
riverrock 04-24-07, 08:54 PM	He already has deathbound domain. Avunk had no legitimate claim to the undeath domain, because he never created anything undead. His role as a necromancer deity was encapsuled in his necromancer domain. But to point a few other things out: We ALL forgot the souls of the dead, including anuvrik. The only person who ever did anything about the dead was Amon. Second of all, you got backlash over the soul thing because it involved stepping on every other deities territory. Nobody's upset at Morintu because he didn't do anything that directly effected them. In fact, he probably helped them out, because he prevented a drow/undead invasion of the material plane. Arguably, it was a good act.
Evil DM Mk3 04-24-07, 08:55 PM	I point out yet again HE GAVE US A FULL DIVINE MONTH WARNING! He and Delfedd are in EXACTLY the same place. Teh good RPing place that I hope I am in too. And now he HAS made undead, prehaps he ought to get the domain. (ALSO me, balance, yes/no?)
riverrock 04-24-07, 08:56 PM	I point out yet again HE GAVE US A FULL DIVINE MONTH WARNING! He and Delfedd are in EXACTLY the same place. Teh good RPing place that I hope I am in too. BUT HE FORGOT THEM LIKE EVERYONE ELSE!
riverrock 04-24-07, 08:57 PM	I point out yet again HE GAVE US A FULL DIVINE MONTH WARNING! He and Delfedd are in EXACTLY the same place. Teh good RPing place that I hope I am in too. And now he HAS made undead, prehaps he ought to get the domain. (ALSO me, balance, yes/no?) After the first time a domain is created, getting it the second time is more difficult. As for balance, let me think about it.
Evil DM Mk3 04-24-07, 08:58 PM	AND DID SOMTHING ABOUT THEM! So somthing happened. All fair and equal, we all could have done it but he spotted it. In any case he has made more undead than morintu. Morintu made a few liches, he churned out a truck load of vampires. He clearly has more rights to the domain if we look at population here.
riverrock 04-24-07, 08:59 PM	And it was something the deities, IC, would have reason to get angry about!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! And Morintu created them first. Avunk didn't even think about undead until Morintu did it.
Destrieth 04-24-07, 09:00 PM	And? By warning us he in a way prevented his own death. If he would have taken our souls without warning he would have received a HUGE backlash. Edit: Dude, he only made vampires because morintu did it. Has nothing to do with population, it has to do with an issue of someone not doing their friggin' job.
Evil DM Mk3 04-24-07, 09:02 PM	but he didn't. He saw a problem and fixed it. And let us have all teh time we needed. Damn I am the only guy who should have been angry becasue it happened when I couldn't do anything about it. It is like getting angry at a litter picker for picking up and binning an unopened packet of crisps after he asked you weather you wanted it and you said no.
ewancummins 04-24-07, 09:04 PM	I'd humby suggest that they divide the mastery of undeath between them. there seems to be some overlap in their portfolios. The pwnage of the drow should stand as is, IMO. PS: The souls thing was cool, it didn't bother me at all.
riverrock 04-24-07, 09:05 PM	but he didn't. He saw a problem and fixed it. And let us have all teh time we needed. Damn I am the only guy who should have been angry becasue it happened when I couldn't do anything about it. What? While we were discussing the issue, he did something rash before we had decided what had happened, exactly. Furthermore, he didn't intentionally give us time. The only reason we had any time at all was because he had no ap to spend. Regardless of his intentions, what he did would have angered the other deities. He was taking everyone's souls! (And BTW, he originally intended to use them as bargaining chips!!)
Destrieth 04-24-07, 09:06 PM	The only reason we got upset is because he announced his action without spending AP. I would have been perfectly accepting if he did it without warning and used the AP to do it. I'd of course in character have to wreck his face but me as a player would not be upset at all.
Evil DM Mk3 04-24-07, 09:08 PM	What? You heard, While we were discussing the issue, he did something rash before we had decided what had happened, exactly. Furthermore, he didn't intentionally give us time. The only reason we had any time at all was because he had no ap to spend.So he was reasonable, the reason why is not a majour issue. Regardless of his intentions, what he did would have angered the other deities. He was taking everyone's souls! (And BTW, he originally intended to use them as bargaining chips!!) The god of wrath slaughters emisaries! The god of the sun causes universal suffering! Untill I hear the required shouting that way. Well anywho I don't feel he has done anything VERY wrong (yes it was a BIT wrong, but come on look at the dieaty involved)
Destrieth 04-24-07, 09:12 PM	It still goes back to the fact that his decision stepped on nearly everyone's toes. Morintu's have not.
Return of the Flumph 04-24-07, 09:16 PM	There's no reason for this to turn into a flame war between the players just for acting their parts. Morintu is a self-righteous, violent, and pragmatic bully who nonetheless cares about the world and its people and wants things to go well for them. Avnuk is a greedy, megalomaniacal god of darkness and corruption who cares for nothing but his own gain. They both are good role players, they both acted their parts, what is everyone getting so mad over?
Evil DM Mk3 04-24-07, 09:16 PM	It still goes back to the fact that his decision stepped on nearly everyone's toes. Morintu's have not. Nor did yours. ;)
ewancummins 04-24-07, 09:18 PM	Yeah, Anvuk hasn't really made alot of friends among the gods. I'd suggest [as a player] that he seek an acommodation with Morintu over the issue. They could both have power over the undead. There is some precedent for that sort of thing [aren't there two gods with Time domain?]. Morintu made LN liches, Anvuk made vamps and seems more likley to create many more undead types in the future[ he is the god of necromancers, after all]. Share power. Or duke it out for ultimate mastery.
Destrieth 04-24-07, 09:18 PM	Nor did yours. ;) I can't tell if you're being coy or serious.
Evil DM Mk3 04-24-07, 09:18 PM	Avnuk is currently the kid whos lunch Morintu has flushed down the loo... Sorry but RL considerations make me VERY hostile when this kind of thing happens. Bulling issues, kid ect ect ect ect ect.....
Evil DM Mk3 04-24-07, 09:19 PM	I can't tell if you're being coy or serious. Serious, but unlike Avenuk I don't mind.
Destrieth 04-24-07, 09:21 PM	But... what? You were basically saying that my actions haven't stepped on everyone else's toes? Because I knew that. If you were, then I wholeheartedly disagree, but you're more than welcome to hold to a delusional viewpoint.
Evil DM Mk3 04-24-07, 09:22 PM	I am drawing direct parallells between your behaviour and morintus, but on a differant scale.
Destrieth 04-24-07, 09:23 PM	Oh, okay. Yeah, that's fine. Alusia idolizes her uncle Morintu, so there's a reason for that.
Delfedd 04-24-07, 09:24 PM	We've been shouting at Ryth'eal. For a while. About three pages. I also have been giving warning to Avnuk. "Oh, a vampire attacked another vampire. Oh, look it happened again. Why? because I did that. Sorry. My bad, where you going to invade me? Oh... wait... no. I'm not going to let you do that." Evil Dm... I warned Avnuk for about a page. Avnuk did not intend for what he did to be a warning. He intended to take all the souls, no questions asked. I don't have a problem with the god of wrath slaughtering emisaries. THAT is his job. I don't have a problem halting an invading army. That's my Duty. Ryth'eal's job is NOT putting out the sun (for some reason). Avnuk's duty is NOT chaining up every soul to use them as barganing chips.
Delfedd 04-24-07, 09:26 PM	Avnuk is currently the kid whos lunch Morintu has flushed down the loo... Yeah... except the lunch that I flushed down the loo had hundreds of miniature gnomes who where planning on poisoning my lunch. And thank you flumph. I take that as high compliment.
Return of the Flumph 04-24-07, 09:28 PM	And it was not Morintu's duty to try to steal the ley lines. Sometimes gods get power hungry. If they didn't, most campaign worlds would be a lot more boring than they are. I think it was a good idea on the part of Avnuck's player to try the soul thing. That's what Dark Lords do.
ewancummins 04-24-07, 09:29 PM	I like that everyone is into the game, but let's make sure no one takes any of this personally. Gods will fight- we the players do not need to fight.;)
Delfedd 04-24-07, 09:29 PM	And it was not Morintu's duty to try to steal the ley lines. Sometimes gods get power hungry. If they didn't, most campaign worlds would be a lot more boring than they are. I think it was a good idea on the part of Avnuck's player to try the soul thing. That's what Dark Lords do. Exactly. and at that point, Everyone ganged up on me. If Rytheal could be found, we would gang up on him. Flumph... You win the flame war. *hands over flamethrower*
ewancummins 04-24-07, 09:31 PM	Glad to see the flame war ended before it really took off. I won't be posting or responding to PMs anymore tonight, BTW. Must eat dinner and go spend some time with my wife. Peace. -Ewan
Return of the Flumph 04-24-07, 09:32 PM	Exactly. and at that point, Everyone ganged up on me. If Rytheal could be found, we would gang up on him. Flumph... You win the flame war. *hands over flamethrower* Thanks. The only thing I've taken issue with so far is the matter of alignment. Avnuck is obviously evil-probably NE. I've thought Morintu should be LE ever since he cut off Lexius' arm. At this point, Rytheal is more evil than Kakavindus.
Evil DM Mk3 04-24-07, 09:33 PM	Ye, Rytheal is top of my hit list at the moment, but I do not know where he is. I am currently planning "operation get my own power grab, but one no one knows about" as part of the rresponce. IC=I can't trust you lot.;)
Delfedd 04-24-07, 10:06 PM	Wow... I got really caught up in it. BUT IV-001 is dead. :(
Anuvrix 04-24-07, 10:18 PM	I did all of this for two reasons: a)this is what a necromancer god would do... 2)It was supposed to give a power hungry god some sway in the world. think about it, pretty much the weakest god has the ability to F**k with every one. kinda shows how no god is untouchable
Delfedd 04-24-07, 10:32 PM	Huh? But you didn't.
Return of the Flumph 04-24-07, 10:36 PM	GOSHDARNIT, DELFEDD!!!!! YOU'VE JUST COMPLETELY UNDERMINED THE ENTIRE PROJECT!!!!! Let me explain something to you; its called the Law of Cybernetic Dependency. Heard of it? Obviously not. This law states, in no uncertain terms, that the awesomeness of a given campaign setting is directly proportionate to the number of robots in it. Defining "X" as "population of robots in the thousands" the equation would look like this: Xrobots = Xawesomeness. Further mathematical theorizing has concluded that the size of each robot can further adjust the setting's awesomeness by an appropriate integer. Namely, each meter of the mean height of all the robots in the setting adds one unit of awesomeness. If, say, the mean height of all the robots was 3 meters, the awesomeness of that world would be X+3. Let's say there are ten thousand robots (X = 10), averaging 3 meters. The world would gain 13 Awesomeness Points just like that. Now, Given: IV001 was a robot. Given: IV001 was a big robot. Then, Problem: WHAT THE HELL ARE YOU DOING TO US!!!!???????
Delfedd 04-24-07, 10:37 PM	It just felt like the right thing to do. It was out of my hands. The game has taken control. Don't worry. He will be back.
riverrock 04-24-07, 10:39 PM	Fine, I wash my hands of this argument
Ronix 04-24-07, 10:49 PM	I did all of this for two reasons: a)this is what a necromancer god would do... 2)It was supposed to give a power hungry god some sway in the world. think about it, pretty much the weakest god has the ability to F**k with every one. kinda shows how no god is untouchable im untouchable.......:rolleyes: . btw, i know were ryth'eal is, but no one has botherd to ask me.
Ronix 04-24-07, 10:58 PM	Ye, Rytheal is top of my hit list at the moment, but I do not know where he is. I am currently planning "operation get my own power grab, but one no one knows about" as part of the rresponce. IC=I can't trust you lot.;) you might have to pm me that private conversation too ya know.....just so i can uphold my domain of oracle, (promis i wont tell no one)
Ivellius 04-25-07, 12:12 AM	Ye, Rytheal is top of my hit list at the moment, but I do not know where he is. I am currently planning "operation get my own power grab, but one no one knows about" as part of the rresponce. IC=I can't trust you lot.;) You know you can always trust me. ;)
Evil DM Mk3 04-25-07, 04:43 AM	You know you can always trust me. ;) No but odly enough you are the least of my worries. You see I know EXACTLY how much I can trust you. That is to say NOT AT ALL. That is far better than say, Avenuk, who I can 20% trust. I mean, how do you judge that?:)
Anuvrix 04-25-07, 08:12 AM	Really? 20%...... I expected something like i dunno..... ()%
Delfedd 04-25-07, 08:24 AM	Parenthesis eh? Those aren't numbers. :D did you mean zero?
Evil DM Mk3 04-25-07, 08:26 AM	The great thing about untrusworthy people? You can trust tehm to be untrusworthy people. It's those damned trustworthy people you can't trust!
Evil DM Mk3 04-25-07, 08:28 AM	By the way, well done everyone for staying in "thrillign heated debate" and not going into "ranting flames". Well, much. Oh and on the oracle domain, technically anything a dieaty with higher DvR does can;t be found out by you very easily.
Ronix 04-25-07, 09:03 AM	wait, what gender is Elvunil?
Evil DM Mk3 04-25-07, 09:07 AM	wait, what gender is Elvunil? Sorry I just assumed Anywho can we get the PM bit going?
Evil DM Mk3 04-25-07, 10:04 AM	I just noticed my domains are wrong. I lost Oracle and gained Knowladge. <(^^<) <(^^)> (>^^)> Just becasue Also <(00<)^<)
Anuvrix 04-25-07, 12:17 PM	<(00<)^<) Thats dirty:schemes: (future:pile: ROMAN ORGY!!!)
Evil DM Mk3 04-25-07, 12:18 PM	I have no idea what you thought I drew. Kirby's friend has just snuck up on him and said Boo! right behind him! :rolleyes:
Anuvrix 04-25-07, 12:26 PM	I think a good idea would be to have the god of necromancy fight morintu... and lose. they kill him, and think he is dead, but do not know that he bound himself with the crystal too. sort of an omnipotent spirit, cannot physically interact with other gods.... all he can do really for now would be to raise dr every turn until he has power to make a new body.
Return of the Flumph 04-25-07, 02:35 PM	I think a good idea would be to have the god of necromancy fight morintu... and lose. they kill him, and think he is dead, but do not know that he bound himself with the crystal too. sort of an omnipotent spirit, cannot physically interact with other gods.... all he can do really for now would be to raise dr every turn until he has power to make a new body. The god of necromancy is a lich. Perfect.
Evil DM Mk3 04-25-07, 02:40 PM	Where I have I seen that before? ;) What about making a negative enrgy plan or shadow plane (or both together). That is a very good power base for your sort of deiaty.
Delfedd 04-25-07, 02:45 PM	Maybe not a lich... to *yawn* boring. If you MUST become undead, there are things which are much more interesting. Here's some stuff Nightwalker. NightCRAWLER (yes, be a giant centepede) Spectre Lavawight Winterwight (that'd be cool) Dread Wraith Oooh... Idea! You could create the negative energy plane and be trapped on it. Then you could get the "Evolved" template.
Evil DM Mk3 04-25-07, 02:49 PM	OR what about this? Ready? An Atropal!
Evil DM Mk3 04-25-07, 03:00 PM	No one knows what that is do they?
Delfedd 04-25-07, 03:19 PM	Yeah. Dead baby gods
Evil DM Mk3 04-25-07, 03:28 PM	A bit powerful (CR 30) but if he is trapped on a plane... Well if he can attack you it is your own danmed flault
Delfedd 04-25-07, 03:35 PM	Mine? Don't see that at all. But he understands that he will perish if he attacks me, right?
Evil DM Mk3 04-25-07, 03:42 PM	I mean if he get killed and become somthign like I sujected BUT trapped in a plane then he can only attack gods dumb enough to go near him. I am talking future here. If he is powerful in the future and you go and start somthign in what is effectivley his prison cell it is your fault if he Pwnes you.
Delfedd 04-25-07, 03:53 PM	Hey, maybe with monsters gods we should subtract the CR if they want to use their monster abilities as a god. Otherwise it's merely cosmetic.
Evil DM Mk3 04-25-07, 04:02 PM	It was inteded to be flavourful, not cosmetic, although that is here a synonym. It is just an idea.
Destrieth 04-25-07, 05:11 PM	Honestly, I think if a god is killed, the player can pick an open deity and that's about it. Having the god just come back later kind of makes the whole thing pointless.
Evil DM Mk3 04-25-07, 05:14 PM	Undead gods are staple man!
Return of the Flumph 04-25-07, 05:15 PM	Honestly, I think if a god is killed, the player can pick an open deity and that's about it. Having the god just come back later kind of makes the whole thing pointless. Undead gods are cool.
Destrieth 04-25-07, 05:39 PM	Except it takes away the drama of a deity's death. Oops.
Evil DM Mk3 04-25-07, 05:41 PM	But this doesn't. Done right it inflates the drama. Why the oops?
Destrieth 04-25-07, 05:43 PM	Nothing. It's a form of sarcasm.
riverrock 04-26-07, 12:19 AM	On a slightly different topic- Interest outside the core group of people has seemed to have dryed up. We have 3 open deities, and no one on the waiting list. Awhile ago, someone suggested that people be allowed to play multiple deities. What does everyone think about this? I've been considering allowing it.
Janusunaj 04-26-07, 12:23 AM	I might like one
Destrieth 04-26-07, 12:25 AM	I wouldn't oppose it.
Delfedd 04-26-07, 12:45 AM	If we make multiple deities, we would have to have someone who moderates that specifically. Multiple characters of any kind get very confusing.
Destrieth 04-26-07, 12:47 AM	I'll take the position if no one else wants it.
Return of the Flumph 04-26-07, 01:13 AM	I volunteer.
Ivellius 04-26-07, 02:02 PM	On a related note, where's Akhier gone? He was our referee.
Evil DM Mk3 04-26-07, 02:09 PM	Dunno, yestarday I recomended (on this thread) that Delfedd take over. So far no one objected. He is frequently and concistantly online after all.
Return of the Flumph 04-26-07, 03:09 PM	New month! Four shiny new action points! Now I just need to decide who to use them on...hmmm, tough decision :rolleyes:.
Evil DM Mk3 04-26-07, 03:12 PM	Are you complaing over number of AP? I have 6 and I am happy.
Anuvrix 04-26-07, 04:18 PM	i meant that the gods think he is dead, but he is in fact alive, gaining power, (sort of a base for a campaign...) no one knows if he is alive, his followers believe he is still alive, but ingame on LOC he becomes inactive, just raising DR and watching his people. he is still, for the purposes of this game, dead. but for later dnd campaigns, he is a hidden god.
Evil DM Mk3 04-26-07, 04:21 PM	Are you looking for a way to bow out or somthing?
Anuvrix 04-26-07, 04:29 PM	no, im creating a question for later generations IG. Did he die? or is he still sewing evil somewhere in the world?
Evil DM Mk3 04-26-07, 04:45 PM	Ah, I see.
Return of the Flumph 04-26-07, 05:12 PM	No I wasn't complaining at all. I was simply expressing my desire to do something bad to Rytheal and my happiness that I know have AP to do it with.
Anuvrix 04-26-07, 05:14 PM	I actually think avnuk is going to attack rytheal in a last stitch effort to keep the world in darkness.....
Evil DM Mk3 04-26-07, 05:17 PM	Look I say we put him on trial. Each of us brings symbolic type item, listen to his deffence, give the item to him if we feel he diserved freedom, discard it if we feel he ought to be improsoned and break it if we think he should die. Democtaric. Democracy is NN becasue any view point has the same weighting. :)
Evil DM Mk3 04-26-07, 05:23 PM	OK guys I put this here becasue IC I am not telling anyone I am doing it. I am keeping secrets. God with the oracle domain might well know, but prehaps not. The realm of mirrors. The great hall. The eternal shining. It is a well known fact that mirrors reflect light and magic power. Like many well known facts, it is wrong. Mirrors, and in deed all reflective surfaces, are partially open portals to the realm of mirrors. The primary function of such portals is to allow the denizens of the realm of mirrors to observe the rest of the world, for whilst your side of the reflection shows you yourself, theirs shows them you. The quality of the image is identical to the quality of yours, note that is not the wrong way round like yours is. They can only see light and dark in a coin but can see everything crystal clear in a high quality mirror. Apart from these portals, that are about as near to each other as the reflective surfaces that create them are, the realm has but three features. The realm is well lit and is nothing but an area filled with faint coloured light and the sound of breaking mirrors. There is no gravity but every creature in the plane is under a permanent air walk effect. It is interesting to note that whilst there is no gravity there is an “up” and “down” that the effect orientates you to, identical to the “up” and “down” for the area the nearby portals open up into. It has normal time, magic and energy. The plane is strongly neutral aligned, meaning creatures take a -2 penalty on intelligence wisdom and charisma based checks and skills per step they are away from true neutral. The plane opens up onto every other plane and so it is possible to cross to other planes through it. It is both a conduit for spells and effects that usually open into the astral, shadow and ethereal planes. All shadow illusions have counterpart “mirror” illusion that uses this realm to create semi-real phantom doubles. These spells gain a mirror as a focus component. They are considered opposing spells to the shadow versions and so may counter and dispel them (like bless and bane). Note where spells that enter the plane of shadow require shadows and darkness, spells that enter the realm of mirrors require a clean mirror, mirror here defined as an object who’s primary purpose is to allow the owner to see reflections in it. You can see out of a polished copper shield, but you can’t enter through one. You can however enter through a polished copper mirror. Of note is the fact that any mirror not belonging on this plane naturally is dark on this plane, and all mirrors made here are dark everywhere else. The three fixed features are the great society council room, located where the centre of the sun would be, the keeper collective, located where the second moon would be and the clone storage facility, located where the centre of the earth would be. The council is where the Aurumach and high Sillit make the decisions by which the great society is run. They hear testimony and reposts collated and processed by the keeper collective. Sillit are natives and Aurumach are neutral “spirit creatures” clones are no issue. The Keeper collective collect all field reports from Cuprilach agents, other observers, Nerra mirror watchers and Wierds (who collect data on what things people are worried about by recording what they are asked about). Because Keepers are Lawful neutral naturally half of the collective are easily distinguished mirror clones. This is not a problem however as they are still part of the hive mind and provide the collective with the creativity the Lawful ones don’t have, but lack the normal talent for mathematics. The third area is where creatures who have replacement mirror clones are kept, as fit and healthy as possible. The only sign that these partial portals even exist is the slightly higher level of magic around them, attributed to reflection. If a mirror of high quality is prepared properly it can boost spells. A single high quality mirror costing 1000gp can be used during spell preparation to gain a +1 bonus on caster level check when casting any spells prepared during this time, spontaneous casters can gain this bonus on any spell cast before they next prepare spells. Shadow illusion spells cannot benefit from this bonus. If two mirrors are used, face to face so as to create an infinite number of reflections (you know what I mean right?), the bonus is +3. If both mirrors are fitted with a special coloured (same colour as the appropriate leyline) crystal costing 20gp every spell of the school of magic that has the leyline of the same colour of the crystals then the caster gains +1 Caster level on all spells of that school cast before the next prepare spells. All of these bonuses expire after 24 hours, even if no second preparation of spell has been made. More powerful and much more expensive arrangements, possibly granting bonus spells per day, caster level bonuses and so on, may be possible at DM’s discretion, but only as fixed features. The natives of the plane are the Nerra. There are three types, Varoot, Kalareem and Sillit. Varoot are stealthy and sly(CR 1 ECL 4), Kalareem are strong and disciplined (CR3 ECL 9) and Sillit (CR6 ECL 25)are intelligent and manipulative. However Nerra without class levels are very rare. Nerra are true neutral but unlike Rilmani, who feel that all alignments are equally valid, Nerra think all alignments are dangerous and futile. They walk a very fine line between all alignments often doing things one might think are good, evil, lawful or chaotic. They observe and record the activates of creatures through the mirror portals. They observe at any given mirror less than 1% of the time of average but conduct 24 hour surveillance on certain people, mostly those that are in danger of finding out their secrets or destroying the balance of the world. The 400 most powerful Sillit wizards, known as High Sillit, and the 400 oldest Aurumach are the counsel. Ever since the Wrath Event Rilmani and Nerra are forbidden from entering the material realm save in two instances. First they can still be summoned but only by the Gate spell, no other spell will function. Second they may enter to observe any other outsider, piggy backing on the magic that takes them to the material plane and observing their action, acting if need be. In order to ensure they are not detected they have to be less powerful than the creature they follow. (Note Nephlim and Inevitables are not outsiders ;)) The most dangerous aspect of travelling through the plane of mirrors is not the Nerra, who are very dangerous indeed, but mirror clones. When any creature enters the realm of mirrors another almost identical creature is spawned. The differences are as follows: First the alignment of the creature is the opposite, true neutrals remain true neutral. Second hand preference is reversed. Third any mirrors carried by the original are not carried by the clone. Fourth the clone is an outsider with darkvision 60ft. Finally the clone always knows of the original’s location. The clone can usually find the original in 2d20 rounds. If the original leaves the plane of mirrors the clone vanishes (clones know this inherently but may not understand it if they are not sentient), if it is slain it shatters, destroying all it’s equipment (even if it is not on the person of the clone) and dealing d3 damage per hid dice to every creature within 5ft, reflex DC 15 half. If the original is killed the clone BECOMES the original, becomes the type of the original and, as it is made of part of the original’s soul, the original is irretrievable exempt by repeating the event. “Spirit creatures”, that is to say outsiders (including deities), elementals, fey and incorporeal undead, do not fade out when the original leaves, in stead they are re-assimilated, leaving the creature with two sets of memories, theirs and the clone’s. Two other types of mirror clone exist apart from spontaneous “reflective” clones. After image clones are created by any Sillit from the image of a person in a mirror. It creates and utterly perfect duplicate that obeys all their commands. After about an hour the clone begins to degrade, becoming more and more featureless. They last only 6 hours in total and are mostly used as emergency soldiers. Replacement clones can be made only by High Sillit. It requires a total of 100 hours of observation to create and then 1 hour’s maintenance every day. No High Sillit can maintain more than one. The replacement clone can be put into the world any time the original is looking in a mirror. The clone is identical in all ways and even housed the original’s mind and soul. The only difference is that when given a special command phrase by the High Sillit that made it (this can be give through a mirror) it carries out any instructions given. The creature can remember what they did and will usually justify it to themselves but if the orders are very out of character the creature may well go insane. It is very hard to detect a replacement clone by anything short of an out and out question given to a divination spell. Asking, for example “who is he” will get his name, “how is he” gives an accurate description, “is this the real one” returns yes. Only “is he a mirror clone” will reveal the truth. The two bodies are linked such that the true original ages and becomes injured when the replacement does. If the High Sillit fails to maintain the clone the original body is returned. They are not often used and when they are they usually take the place of officials, advisors and mid ranked military officers, not rulers as they are less likely to get found out and are probably more useful. The less they are used the less likely their existence is to get revealed. Also maintaining them is a chore High Sillit find annoying. More than three quarters are never activated however as the event they where created to avert of cause is dealt with other ways Mirror clones of Nerra are not possible and only one clone of each person can exist any one time, regardless of type. The existence of Nerra, the plane of mirrors and especially mirror clones are all very well kept secrets. Wizards who meddle in mirror magic too much tent to turn up dead and heavy lacerated... AND HERE ARE THE NERRA (http://www.wizards.com/dnd/images/ff_gallery/50087.jpg) (Yes I like Fiend Folio) This is Create plane and Create populous.
Evil DM Mk3 04-26-07, 05:51 PM	Is the mirror clone stuff clear or do you want some examples? (I have examples...)
Anuvrix 04-26-07, 05:53 PM	i got it just fine.
Evil DM Mk3 04-26-07, 05:58 PM	I like the idea of some inevitables that get in and end up wiped out by their clones who then leave... CN inevitable gang...:D :eek: CN Mortintu!
Kirtanus_Albacron 04-26-07, 06:38 PM	I have a question about something d24478667 is trying to do, because Ryth'eal has a higher DR that Glacieso, that now being 13 to his 6, would he be able to thwart the wisp that Glacieso is sending after him?
Anuvrix 04-26-07, 06:39 PM	you know that Elvunil knows where you are.....
Evil DM Mk3 04-26-07, 06:40 PM	Probably By the way, you might want to avoid shiny things :P
Return of the Flumph 04-26-07, 07:51 PM	I misread your description of the Plane of Mirrors; I thought the mirror you handed Artheyan was going to clone her. Never mind.
ewancummins 04-26-07, 07:53 PM	So did I for a moment!!!! :)
Evil DM Mk3 04-26-07, 07:56 PM	No. Whilst it is possible for a High Sillit to try and clone a replacment her first it requires a consil vote (and they quite like the lady who amde balanced nature) and second how likely is it that it might get found out? But Arethyn please don't go walking through the mirror!
Return of the Flumph 04-26-07, 07:58 PM	I got that now. I hope Kirtanus comes back on tonight.
Evil DM Mk3 04-26-07, 08:01 PM	By the way what do you all think about the rules for using mirrors in magic in a game? Note you can only use one type of crytal on the mirrors at once and they both have to be the same.
Anuvrix 04-26-07, 08:02 PM	i dont mind...
ewancummins 04-26-07, 08:03 PM	No mirror walking for me. Arteheyn's ''evil clone'' would not be pleasant, I'd imagine.
Anuvrix 04-26-07, 08:06 PM	btw, we wont arrive at the fight scene until Kirtanus(spelling) posts his reaction, untill then no one post anything but starting to follow kethvok.... please and thank you (this is just to keep the time lapse regular, rytheal would have a chance to react before we arrive...)
Evil DM Mk3 04-26-07, 08:07 PM	Arethyn is neutral last I checked. Her clone would also be neutral.
Anuvrix 04-26-07, 08:11 PM	Anuvrix should be evil.... i think hes written as neutral. i took 2 alignment tests....... both came out chaotic evil...... stat test results: 12 17 14 17 15 10 suprisingly high....
Evil DM Mk3 04-26-07, 08:16 PM	He he. LG Anuvrix... Have I just handed DMs a big folder of plot ideas or have I just handed DMs a BIG folder of plot ideas? CE angels CN Inevitables :w00t: :love: :ton: :ton: :dancin: :dancin: :king: :ton:
Return of the Flumph 04-26-07, 08:18 PM	Tough choice, but I vote the second one.
Anuvrix 04-26-07, 08:20 PM	a lawful good god of necromancy???? wow, undead going around the world....... planting flowers.:angelhide :bravo:
Evil DM Mk3 04-26-07, 08:22 PM	Hehehehehe. +++MUST*DESTABILISE*REALITY+++ +++MUST*CAUSE*IMMORTAILITY+++ +++MELON****MELON***MELON+++ +++OUT**OF***CHEESE**ERROR+++ +++DIVIDE*BY*CUCUMBER*ERROR+++ Guys, STAY ON THIS SIDE OF MIRRORS!
ewancummins 04-26-07, 08:25 PM	I know she's neutral - that's why ''evil clone'' was in quotations. I was referring to a greater diety with Arteheyn's goals and personality reversed. A death and destruction oriented neutral god who does things like create and unleash the tarrasque or wipe out an entire species, because she wants to ''tidy things up a bit.'' Not really truly evil, just uncaring of mortals.
Evil DM Mk3 04-26-07, 08:26 PM	My clone, well you all know her don't you? Sigh, shall I get the bell out again? Wierds with big number cards on standby.
riverrock 04-26-07, 08:26 PM	If neither unicorns nor mankind exist, how can you create something that is both of them?
Evil DM Mk3 04-26-07, 08:28 PM	Do they have horns? Edit: If they do don't let teh mature boards hear, they have been on a Rule 34 binge recently.
ewancummins 04-26-07, 08:30 PM	Mannikhornes[ sp?] rock! They just look like a human -unicorn fusion, I'd assume. Like minotaurs and centaurs have human parts, but in this world they predate humanity.I wonder who will create humans, now that we can [ 2nd year, right?].
riverrock 04-26-07, 08:32 PM	Nope, each year has 13 months. Also, he said they were half-man, half unicorn. So I'm guessing their genesis involves time-travel, since neither have been created.
Evil DM Mk3 04-26-07, 08:34 PM	This is month 12 (i think) so month AFTER NEXT
Janusunaj 04-26-07, 08:35 PM	No. But, however, being a DvR 20 type man, he can do that anyway.
ewancummins 04-26-07, 08:35 PM	13 months, I forgot! Anyhoo, maybe he just described them that way [ like I'd say a centaur is a mix of man and horse]. In any case, they sound cool. Mystical hornheaded humanoids. Do they have goat beards, that's the real question!
riverrock 04-26-07, 08:36 PM	So, a time paradox, right? Right? I can't fathom any other explanation. And the thing with centaurs was that horses and humanoids already existed. Unicorns don't yet.
Evil DM Mk3 04-26-07, 08:37 PM	Damn Ninja Riverrock's editing skills Look it is just a description. In this world if unicorns come into existance they may be called "Menikorns with hourseheads rather than humanoid torsos.
Anuvrix 04-26-07, 08:37 PM	hows about man was fashioned to resemble this race, but you know, human.
riverrock 04-26-07, 08:37 PM	Maybe read what I post for once?
Janusunaj 04-26-07, 08:38 PM	Thats true. So lets leave that open for a campaign mystery. OR, they could be the same thing as dragons with human form only that they unicorns?
ewancummins 04-26-07, 08:38 PM	Eh, maybe the unicorns will come from the mannicorns. Who knows?
Evil DM Mk3 04-26-07, 08:40 PM	Maybe They Are Just Pointy Centaurs!
ewancummins 04-26-07, 08:43 PM	Riverrock, I did read what you posted,-n sorry if I misunderstood or have offended you somehow.
riverrock 04-26-07, 08:43 PM	It was evil_dm.
Evil DM Mk3 04-26-07, 08:44 PM	OK what did I say?
ewancummins 04-26-07, 08:47 PM	Oh, okay.
riverrock 04-26-07, 08:47 PM	You fixed it. Anyway, the description, as written, implies that they are part man, part unicorn. Assuming "man" is being used as a synonym for "humankind" mannicorns are created from two things that don't exist yet. If it was just a description thing, it could have been written as part horse, part humanoid, with a horn, then elaborated as being basically a mix of unicorn and human in appearance.
d24478667 04-26-07, 08:48 PM	I have a question about something d24478667 is trying to do, because Ryth'eal has a higher DR that Frostbite, that now being 13 to his 6, would he be able to thwart the wisp that Frostbite is sending after him? Corrections Perhaps; it tracked down a DvR 18 (Kakavindus), but then, he wasn't avoiding it. Know what would be creepy? If Rytheal went through the mirror, and his clone had a different alignment... but behaved exactly the same.
Evil DM Mk3 04-26-07, 08:56 PM	Corrections Perhaps; it tracked down a DvR 18 (Kakavindus), but then, he wasn't avoiding it. Know what would be creepy? If Rytheal went through the mirror, and his clone had a different alignment... but behaved exactly the same. :heehee :heehee :heehee :heehee :heehee Oh ye I saw that part after posting, did you edit? Thought you did.
ewancummins 04-26-07, 09:03 PM	Hope I don't miss anything cool or important. I have to go to bed. See you guys on the flipside.:cool:
Evil DM Mk3 04-26-07, 09:05 PM	Ditto. I hate being +7 hours EST.
Return of the Flumph 04-27-07, 01:06 AM	In memory of Morintu: the last sane god.
Delfedd 04-27-07, 02:00 AM	Hehe... I think a LOT of people are in for a LOT of surprises come tomorrow. Also, I am still sane. Morintu is actually probably going to act a lot more sane now that he doesn't have to flip out and scream from the top of mountains dramatically. From now on, instead of getting very angry, he's going to make a list of the people he has grievences against, then get 'em in one fell swoop. It looks something like this Avnuk (Stupid copycat) Ryth'eal (You killed my entire race.) Amon (YOU CUT OUT MY HEART YOU BUTTFACE!) That's about it
Return of the Flumph 04-27-07, 02:04 AM	Why did you attack Amon in the first place? It seemed really arbitrary.
Delfedd 04-27-07, 02:19 AM	ah. Well, this hatred for him has been festering since page two on the first thread. I believed he abandoned his duties as a guardian of law and became a simple good creature. Morintu has also believed for quite some time that the world is out of balance. He hasn't been able to figure it out for a while. When he finally did, he decided to say goodbye and go out fighting. He neither died nor killed Amon. He fell instead.
Return of the Flumph 04-27-07, 02:21 AM	"Perished himself?" That whole battle confused me.
Delfedd 04-27-07, 02:25 AM	Wow... that was a random and tired way to finish the sentance. What's confusing? There was too much good in the world, so I attacked his people. This made him mad, so I seized the opportunity and attacked him. Then I pulled an organ out of him (it's going to turn into a god). I followed him into his place of power (see the SRD) and he used alter reality to rip my heart out.
Return of the Flumph 04-27-07, 02:30 AM	Oh, okay. It was that last bit that lost me. Got it.
Evil DM Mk3 04-27-07, 06:14 AM	This god of Evil against Evil, what power level is it? Also if we are allowing multiple deaites each I think I know an interesting way of pulling it off.
Delfedd 04-27-07, 10:21 AM	See? I told you guys that I would eat Avnuk. Why? because he's a silly person.
Evil DM Mk3 04-27-07, 10:42 AM	Are we doing the multiple god thing?
Delfedd 04-27-07, 10:42 AM	Depends. What is your "interesting way of pulling it off?"
Evil DM Mk3 04-27-07, 10:47 AM	Well as I read it it is suposed to be an evil deiaty who is using evil against evil, right? What about a sick and twisted philosopher who uses plauge, war and other methods to "eliminate the weakness" from good societies. His methods do work, for example Paladins may well end up being made to hunt his (CE) cultists down. Also medicine and sciance may be forced to take large leaps to keep ahead of him. He creates creatures that are designed to slaughter all but the strongest champeons of good, kind of like forces social and physical evolution. He does not "enhance" evil in this way, instead he tries to degrad and bestialise evil, creating internal wars and mutating teh powerful evils into degraded monsters, that he then unleashes on good.
Ivellius 04-27-07, 10:53 AM	I have class now. *Sigh* If anyone's wondering why I haven't been around more, I have two words. Research papers. Such is the life of a college student...
Delfedd 04-27-07, 10:58 AM	Sorry, I meant What's your idea for how people control two characters.
Evil DM Mk3 04-27-07, 11:00 AM	Oh, well that is not what I ment. I would however ensure that the second deiaty Spoke and acted like this or simmilar
Delfedd 04-27-07, 11:05 AM	Ah. Alright. So what happens to Avnuk now? How can he be recorperated? The god of poop? Hehe. Poop.
Evil DM Mk3 04-27-07, 11:08 AM	Up to his player really. As for that guy, CE by virtue of having several differant evil and manipulative/destrucitve personalites, WORKING IN CONSORT. "A devil on each sholder, egging each other on" Terry P rules!
Delfedd 04-27-07, 11:16 AM	True. :D But which book is that from? Also, I've been thinking of creating a thread for recruiting players. I think the reason that people lost interest in applying to the game is that there weren't enough gods, (Solved) and that there was to much to read. I'd sumarize what's happening currently, and put the three or so gods who are up for grabs.
Evil DM Mk3 04-27-07, 11:19 AM	It is from Night Watch, a description of Carcer's mental state.
Return of the Flumph 04-27-07, 11:21 AM	But which book is that from? Nightwatch...dangit, beaten to it. I'll take another god. Which ones besides Evil Against Evil are currently open?
Evil DM Mk3 04-27-07, 11:34 AM	We are still debating the possibility.
Delfedd 04-27-07, 11:39 AM	Trickery, Illusion and courage.
Evil DM Mk3 04-27-07, 11:41 AM	And that new one. Whatever it is exacly. (BUT I did say I would quite like that)
Delfedd 04-27-07, 11:51 AM	Vengence maybe? Punishment? (MINE!) Anywho. What'd you think of Morintu's fall? Pretty kickass, eh? Amon and I worked it out a while ago. It's better than asmodeus's fall, IMO.
Anuvrix 04-27-07, 11:51 AM	Wow, i just got eaten....... smells funny. Soooooooo........ many drow might not believe that he is dead.... He is part of the crystal, although no gods would know, except for Elvunil. what do you reccomend i do now?, pick open ones, or get new one?
Delfedd 04-27-07, 11:53 AM	No... actually... I ate you. You don't go ANYWHERE. You've been eaten. Nothing to it. I'm keeping your spirit in my stomach. Nothing goes INTO or OUT OF my plane without my knowledge and consent. Yeah, I let you in. Yeah I wanted to eat you. It was delicious.
Evil DM Mk3 04-27-07, 11:55 AM	except for Elvunil. :rolleyes: Anyway you might want to think about ensuring this bit is kickass. Resurect yourself in a new guise or choose a god that could logicaly be created from teh left over energy. Either that or, depending on how much of you is in the crystal, you are not dead in any real sence at all.
Return of the Flumph 04-27-07, 11:56 AM	What'd you think of Morintu's fall? Pretty kickass, eh? Amon and I worked it out a while ago. It's better than asmodeus's fall, IMO. Asmodeus' fall was lame, so I don't think that's a good comparison. However, that's irrelevant because THAT WAS ALMOST ON A PAR WITH SATAN'S FALL!!!!!!!:bow: :bow: :bow: :bow: :bow: :bow:
Delfedd 04-27-07, 12:01 PM	Thankye Return of Flumph. By the way, I think you should create flumphs. BECAUSE! Anywho, that makes me feel happy. I'm almost as good at mythology as Dante and whatnot.
Evil DM Mk3 04-27-07, 12:02 PM	Nice way you keep on refering to yourself as a warrior of good.
Anuvrix 04-27-07, 12:03 PM	I think that i will make a new one.... a god of ressurection and/or healing..... CG. Takes over the plane of Arancix, using the crystal and reforms it to be a place of healing. Morintu ate the evil Avnuk, Avnuk sealed all that was good in him in the crystal and it made a new god. occasinally he may sort of get "influenced" by the evil that is left though. healing a damaged city...... then going and slaying random people....... Split personality. will be writing as 2 gods like evildm said, but are the same person. when i write in italic, he takes on a sort of menacing look...
Delfedd 04-27-07, 12:05 PM	Okay, that's cooool. Also, I AM a warrior of good. Are you insinuating that I'm NOT??!! *Slams Kur-ah's head onto the wall several dozen times* Also, I think I should become Lawful Good now, and Amon should become Lawful evil. Kakavindus is now champion of good. /sarcasm
Return of the Flumph 04-27-07, 12:05 PM	A double aspect dude. Cool. Is he keeping the Deathbound domain?
Evil DM Mk3 04-27-07, 12:07 PM	What EXACTLY does this mean? (Begat God(Heart)Evil against Evil.
Delfedd 04-27-07, 12:08 PM	Begat god from his own heart... um... Then I think it was the theme of the god.
Anuvrix 04-27-07, 12:10 PM	maybe he retains all of Avnuks powers... only when he is evil mode. but otherwise he has no idea of what he does when evil. Good guy has blackout, bad guy takes control. i think he should be at least intermediate, seeing as he is basically a god plus a lesser god.
Evil DM Mk3 04-27-07, 12:10 PM	Well that fits what I would like to do, all I need is a yes or a no and then (if yes) a power rank (although deiaties seem to create deaities one step lower than them) and when I can start posting.
Anuvrix 04-27-07, 12:12 PM	Well that fits what I would like to do, all I need is a yes or a no and then (if yes) a power rank (although deiaties seem to create deaities one step lower than them) and when I can start posting. i cant tell what you're talking about, the Skitzophrenic god idea or the double god thing?
Delfedd 04-27-07, 12:12 PM	I don't think that you GAINING power from DYING makes very much sense at all. So, as the referee, I'm going to say no. But maybe that's just because I killed you. Maybe it makes sense to other people for you to gain power when you die. Evil DM was talking about the Evil against Evil god thing.
Anuvrix 04-27-07, 12:14 PM	A new god is formed, like a regular diety, and an old half-dead god-thing fuses into him. new ap plus old ap.
Evil DM Mk3 04-27-07, 12:14 PM	i cant tell what you're talking about, the Skitzophrenic god idea or the double god thing? The new god created by Amon who is focus scysophrenic, an CE if I do get to do him, but swave and with long bouts of apparent sanity.
Return of the Flumph 04-27-07, 12:16 PM	I think Avnuk's succesor should have the same DVR as Avnuk. Only fair.
Evil DM Mk3 04-27-07, 12:18 PM	Seems fair. Flavour bonuses prehaps, real cool factor, almost no one would know about the two personaity thing making him almost immune to retributuion.
Evil DM Mk3 04-27-07, 12:33 PM	Anyway here are the prelimianry stats for Blight assuming he is intermediate. Blight Father blight, lord of degredation, master of corruption [DR:11] Intermediate Deity, Cleric 20, rogue 15, [AP:4] Symbol: A gold ring Home: Void Alignment: Chaotic Evil Domains: Pestilance, Madness Portfolio: Sickness, monsters, challanges, danger, threats, evolution of good, degridation of evil. Worshipers: Blighters, rogues, cultists, (dogma has little apeal to most evil creatures) Favored Weapon: Thrusting hand (punching dagger) Avatar: Humanoid dressed in smart and neat black clothes that are at the height of fashion in the area, Left half handsom but cold with sholder length black hair, blue eye and neat moustash, right half degraded rotting slime and puss covered body with a white eye and stingy grey hair. Right hand is gloved.
Delfedd 04-27-07, 12:36 PM	Yay Two-Face! Are you going to flip a coin to see if you go crazy and kill people? And are you actually going to flip a coin?
Return of the Flumph 04-27-07, 12:37 PM	Great. Just perfect. A god with the Madness domain. Just what this world needed. What next? Yog-Sothoth?
Evil DM Mk3 04-27-07, 12:39 PM	No, no coins! By the way that "punching hand" is his right gloved one. And two face is no where are disgusting, to be honest I was mostly inspired by Hel.
Delfedd 04-27-07, 12:42 PM	Oh... But... Two Face... hehe... (create populous: Soggoths)
Evil DM Mk3 04-27-07, 12:44 PM	Look twoface is snae by this guys standards allright! Two choices? This guy has a damned commity in his head! Oh and I would make pestilance a required domain, otherwise you tend to snuff it without the disease immunity...
Anuvrix 04-27-07, 01:03 PM	Anuirikhan Healer of wounds, The great Cleric [DR:11] Intermediate Deity, Cleric 35 [AP:4] Symbol: The glowing hand of an elf. Home: Arancix Alignment: Chaotic Good Domains: Healing, Renewal Portfolio: Healing, destruction(to know when bad stuff happens). Worshipers: healers, Priests Favored Weapon: Reach of Life(staff) Avatar: A man dressed in white robes, carrying a gnarled wooden staff, he has short white hair, and a kind look on his face. He will heal any who ask. Good ?
Delfedd 04-27-07, 01:07 PM	No... See... you're supposed to be a Lesser deity.
Janusunaj 04-27-07, 01:07 PM	The new god is meant to have the portfolio of evil against evil.
Evil DM Mk3 04-27-07, 01:10 PM	Meaning what?
Return of the Flumph 04-27-07, 01:12 PM	Meaning he uses evil means to defeat evil forces. The Punisher as a god.
Evil DM Mk3 04-27-07, 01:13 PM	I thought the concept I outlined fitted roughly into that, without treading on toes. Pushing good to new hights (and culling their weak) degrading and mutating evil, making obvious and making it fight itself. I don't propose to be anything but Evil mind. He is just an evil guys who sees it as his job to correctly shape the forces of good so they win. The strong shall live, the weak shall die. Good must be made strong and able to protect itslef, good must LEARN.
Destrieth 04-27-07, 02:46 PM	I like Evil DM's idea. The rest of you are proposing he take over my job as retribution giver. :(
Return of the Flumph 04-27-07, 03:43 PM	Aside from the new gods, some old characters also need new players; when was the last time anyone saw Kyth'emon or Lexius?
Janusunaj 04-27-07, 04:12 PM	I think I'll change the concept of the god. I think I'll make him the god of Dualism instead.
Anuvrix 04-27-07, 04:23 PM	Anuirikhan Healer of wounds, The great Cleric [DR:6] Lesser Deity, Cleric 34 [AP:3] Symbol: The glowing hand of an elf. Home: Arancix Alignment: Chaotic Good Domains: Healing, Renewal Portfolio: Healing, destruction(to know when bad stuff happens). Worshipers: healers, Priests Favored Weapon: Reach of Life(staff) Avatar: A man dressed in white robes, carrying a gnarled wooden staff, he has short white hair, and a kind look on his face. He will heal any who ask. Good ?
Return of the Flumph 04-27-07, 04:36 PM	Avnuk was DVR 6? If so, perfect.
Evil DM Mk3 04-27-07, 04:57 PM	So the whole god of dualism thing, torpedoes my guy right? What is dualism?
Anuvrix 04-27-07, 04:57 PM	Soo, can i post with this guy this turn? after i get ref's permission of course.
Return of the Flumph 04-27-07, 06:36 PM	If the sun isn't back in the sky within Rythael's next couple of posts, we are going to be down another god.
Janusunaj 04-27-07, 07:04 PM	dualism would mean light and shadow. Instead of good and evil, he would lean slightly toward good and not evil, but encompass positive and negative energy.
Evil DM Mk3 04-27-07, 07:07 PM	So you nuked my idea:weep: Ah well maybe another time.
Janusunaj 04-27-07, 08:56 PM	Can I grant DVR by spending points?
Evil DM Mk3 04-27-07, 09:00 PM	Don't thinks so...
Return of the Flumph 04-27-07, 11:01 PM	I think that sounds fair. If 3 action points can raise you a divine rank, why shouldn't you be able to upgrade someone else?
ewancummins 04-28-07, 12:16 AM	I don't care for the idea of a god upgrading anyone's DVR. Elevating a mortal to DR 0 , by spending the same amount of AP as createing a new god being the only exception I'd make. That's just me, though. Oh, and damn did I miss a lot of action last night! Gods dying, gods fighting, the pact being broken, etc. Devils! Eyeless and heartless hubby-god? Geeze. It just got really cool. Oh, and a freakin' mega terrasque!
Janusunaj 04-28-07, 12:21 AM	I'd like to apologize for arguing with anyone here.
ewancummins 04-28-07, 01:03 AM	I need to consider Arteheyn's next actions very carefully.... This could get tricky.
Evil DM Mk3 04-28-07, 05:48 AM	Guys, we need more gods willing to fight evil. Dman I wish I could have blight back. He would have been right up there puning evil becasue he belived in teh superiourity of good. The thing is we are now cronicly under-gooded. No wait, I could run Blight as a dualism god but he would have to be CN, prone to bouts of violence and bouts of charity. Can I? (DAMN, BUT I wanted to be evil. I had a really evil idea for his home plane and it's resident creatures too. DAMN DAMN DAMN DAMN DAMN!)
Anuvrix 04-28-07, 07:05 AM	let me post as the god of healing, i can reside in your mountain and tend to the wounds of rytheal, i still see good as doing good acts, not vengeance against evil. i porbably wont go crazy for atleast another round...
d24478667 04-28-07, 08:26 AM	So far Frostbite is sane; he's still mad at Rythe'al though...
Return of the Flumph 04-28-07, 12:55 PM	Glykllivar is sane, and I think she's doing a good thing. Now, why is the sun not back yet? Do I need to start cutting off toes? Kyrinian, I could really use a hand right now!
riverrock 04-28-07, 02:20 PM	nvm
Evil DM Mk3 04-28-07, 07:50 PM	ARE we doign multpile gods per player or not? By the way I am back in grumpy old man mode, so if our sun god does throw their lot in with me it will be safe, but I WILL HAVE ANSWERS!
Return of the Flumph 04-28-07, 07:58 PM	if our sun god does throw their lot in with me it will be safe *please make him not, please make him not, please make him not* So, multiple gods. Give me a god, and I'll take it.
riverrock 04-28-07, 07:59 PM	ARE we doign multpile gods per player or not? It didn't seem like there was much of a response either way. If this is done, it would be after we're pretty sure no one else wants to join. If most people are for it, we could still go with it.
Evil DM Mk3 04-28-07, 08:00 PM	Hey you want to cut them with spears. I want to use cutting critisism. Much more painful. We did get two people offer to manadge the affairs of multiple gods...
d24478667 04-28-07, 08:02 PM	Eh; Ryhte'al should really follow Frostbite's advice about the arrow. We wouldn't want his blood to freeze, would we?
riverrock 04-28-07, 08:09 PM	I have no strong feelings either way about multiple deities per player, I just want to be sure that people are okay with it, and that there are no major objections.
Evil DM Mk3 04-28-07, 08:11 PM	All I am going to say is if we are allowed second deities and Amon does not change his post (he hasn't yet) I would like to play Blight. Otherwise, ah well. I had intended for Kur-ah to go through an evil phase, but NOW? HELLS NO!
Return of the Flumph 04-28-07, 08:16 PM	Eh; Ryhte'al should really follow Frostbite's advice about the arrow. We wouldn't want his blood to freeze, would we? If that happens, Glykllivar is having Frostbite's babies.
Evil DM Mk3 04-28-07, 08:17 PM	Not yet she isn't. He is currently improsoned in a big crytal. Seriously there has been enough blood!
Return of the Flumph 04-28-07, 08:22 PM	Think it would be cool if Glykllivar made this (http://boards1.wizards.com/showthread.php?t=837674) thing in the near future?
d24478667 04-28-07, 09:07 PM	Seriously there has been enough blood! Thing is, Frostbite can't stop it now. Seriously, I even posted that when I made the bow. A bow made of the trees of his plane, a bow without arrows, a bow to destroy his enemies by freezing the blood in their veins. Basically, if Rythe'al doesn't act soon, he will be frozen.
Delfedd 04-28-07, 09:10 PM	Morintu's thinking "Oh man, he'd totally deserve it. Maybe i'll just talk to him long enough so that he'll turn into a statue! Then we can put him in the sun"
d24478667 04-28-07, 09:48 PM	Wow the Winter/Summer thing could only be cooler if Kyrnian was Lawful Evil. 2 Opposite brothers, in opposing pantheons, and opposing domains? Then again, it is a bit.... cliché. Also, I find it surprising no one is voting on Frostbite's incarceration. Hey, can he vote on it?
riverrock 04-28-07, 09:50 PM	Kyrinian is pretty thorougly devoted to chaos...and Frostbite isn't his brother, exactly. Glacieso was...but Frostbite isn't.
d24478667 04-28-07, 09:54 PM	You're right. More like a half-brother, ya know, a bastard. Still, they are more related then say, Kyrinian and Morintu. Uncle as opposed to half-brother.
riverrock 04-28-07, 09:56 PM	Yeah, the diety familial relationships are weird. But I don't think Frostbite and Kyrinian have even spoken at this point.
Janusunaj 04-28-07, 11:36 PM	I'd ask that you replace Evolution of good with insanity. And then do with Blight as you will.
ewancummins 04-28-07, 11:45 PM	I'm holding off from posting on the IC thread for a bit, till EvilDm can get in the mix. We need to know what Kur-ah is doing. Oh , sorry about short posts lacking depth.;)
riverrock 04-28-07, 11:47 PM	We can't all post short essays everysingle time we post.... You know.
Evil DM Mk3 04-29-07, 06:14 AM	See Lack of activity is not Inaction. ;) Also I assume I do have the OK on Blight then? (on the terms I metioned with the one alteraion?)
d24478667 04-29-07, 06:48 AM	:D Clever use of my arrow there. And can someone please tell me if I can vote on my imprisonment?
Evil DM Mk3 04-29-07, 09:33 AM	If there are no objections or rulings against it I will post Blight tommorow. I am getting nothing but uming and ahing over it ATM and it has been weeks since the last new player.
Evil DM Mk3 04-29-07, 12:47 PM	Oh and IF there are no objections I think I better give fair warning of somthing after what happened last time a smilliar thing happened. Soon (on his second turn) blight will create a realm for himslef that will draw all degraded souls towards it. Degraded souls are those that fit the following criteria (although not all souls that fit these criteria are degraded, most to least likely to be affected): 1. Died from negative levels or another force that harms the souls. 2. Spent a large amount of time hybrided with other souls, such as those possessed by fiends or binders (although binders, if they exist, will only suffer this if they exploit the vestige or evict it too often, otherwise there is no long term damadge) 3. Had oaths sworn on them (Such as cleric's oaths or the Paladin's oath) that wher broken and the damadge not repared (Atonment as well as replacment oaths(hence why becoming a blackguard is so attractive to fallen paladins)) 4. Those who spent a lot of time with undead, especially intemate contact. 5. Significant indulgance in the 7 deadlies. 6. Being CE 7. Belonged to persons who where driven to great dispare or depression, esspecially if that caused them to commit suicide. 8. The especcially bitter, resentful, self-hating, narrow minded or bigoted (would have to be VERY severe) 9. Just being evil 10. Just being chaotic (almost a non event)
Evil DM Mk3 04-29-07, 12:48 PM	:D Clever use of my arrow there. And can someone please tell me if I can vote on my imprisonment? Sorry for multiple posts but this is nessissary due to VERY divergant topics. Demand a vote, any who abstain are treated as "go free" votes.
ewancummins 04-29-07, 12:54 PM	Fair enough. You do mean voting on Frostbite going free, yes?
Evil DM Mk3 04-29-07, 12:54 PM	Fair enough. You do mean voting on Frostbite going free, yes? Yes Ryethal is MINE
ewancummins 04-29-07, 12:55 PM	Cool. Arteheyn will happily vote now. I'll post on the other thread.
Evil DM Mk3 04-29-07, 12:55 PM	Cool. Arteheyn will happily vote now. I'll post on the other thread. Wait untill Frostbite calls for it please! Wait, robin's nest :confused:
ewancummins 04-29-07, 01:01 PM	Fixed my last post. I thought you meant that we should vote NOW. So, we are waiting for Frostbite to call for a vote about himself? Robin's egg and nest wer the objects I brought from the mortal world. Sort of a marker for my vote, or a token. Of course, there's more to it than that....;)
ewancummins 04-29-07, 01:13 PM	I don't think you need my consent, but I approve of Blight, for what it's worth. He seems cool.
Delfedd 04-29-07, 01:15 PM	4. Those who spent a lot of time with undead, especially intemate contact. 5. Significant indulgance in the 7 deadlies. ... 8. The especcially bitter, resentful, self-hating, narrow minded or bigoted (would have to be VERY severe) 9. Just being evil These ones are objectable to me. Undead... naw man... that should go to someone else (Cough me). Mainly because you've done nothing with undead. Seven deadly sins... i'm pretty sure that's for all Evil people. Same thing for number eight and nine.
Evil DM Mk3 04-29-07, 01:26 PM	These ones are objectable to me. Undead... naw man... that should go to someone else (Cough me). Mainly because you've done nothing with undead. Seven deadly sins... i'm pretty sure that's for all Evil people. Same thing for number eight and nine. Well eight and nine are highly unliekly, but the idea is that damadged souls go there. Also I said a lot of intimate contact. But in truth it is the first three that are the only ones with a high occurance rate.
ewancummins 04-29-07, 01:37 PM	Good point. Souls' final destination seems to be a contentious issue. Here's my idea: 1} Clerics automatically go to their god's realm after death, unless they were anathematized, died while being more than two steps out of alignment with their patron, or are rejected by him. Same goes for paladins, druids, etc. - assuming they are even drawing power from a deity. Since most people presumably venerate two or more deities, this doesn't apply to all mortals. 2] Souls without a direct tie to a single deity drift toward the plane closest to their own alignment in life. Assigning alignments to planes would be a good idea. Letting alignment determine the destination of souls is better than arguing over it between gods, IMO.
Evil DM Mk3 04-29-07, 01:40 PM	Unfortunately that make the whole matter we just struggled though utterly pointless. In any case the idea is that a degraded soul is not a soul, in teh same way a rotten apple is not an apple. Gods have little use for degraded souls in the same way eating a rotten apple would be a dumb idea.
ewancummins 04-29-07, 01:51 PM	Why do we need souls? What is a degraded soul, really? What happens to people who don't follow any god?
Evil DM Mk3 04-29-07, 01:54 PM	Degraded souls where just an idea I had but arguably if you can harm souls then there must be some damadged and egraded ones in existance, the broken refuse of the soul world.
ewancummins 04-29-07, 01:55 PM	I think the gods need to hash this matter out , as soon as the current issues are settled[ Ry'theal and Frostbite].
Evil DM Mk3 04-29-07, 01:57 PM	We did, remember? Chains, arguments, culminating in the death of a god... Oh and in referance to an earlier question traditionaly petitioners become outsiders.
Delfedd 04-29-07, 02:06 PM	I think that what Ewan was saying was that those without a god should go to the correctly aligned plane. Although I do like your cleric/paladin thing.
Evil DM Mk3 04-29-07, 02:10 PM	Well that was just supoesed to be just one example of course.
Delfedd 04-29-07, 02:12 PM	Yeah. I think that the first three are good. What is Avnuk's crystal thing currently doing?
Evil DM Mk3 04-29-07, 02:14 PM	I assumed it was still working
ewancummins 04-29-07, 02:18 PM	Artheyn is recieving souls, then? I will save them for now, sleeping in a cave or something. I have a plan on how to reuse them soon[ will cost some AP, but will be cool].
Evil DM Mk3 04-29-07, 02:28 PM	The logic behind the negativ elevels and lots of undead contact BTW was that (according to several WotC scources inclusing magic of incarnum) souls are either made of or linked to positive energy.
riverrock 04-29-07, 03:33 PM	Are you going ahead with this regardless? Also, trickery has been taking. We're waiting for him to post.
Evil DM Mk3 04-29-07, 03:38 PM	With what regardless, there are at least two things I think you might be refering to. In any case I am commited to nothing as of yet. Please clarify as in both instances I am thinking of I have said "unless there is objection".
riverrock 04-29-07, 03:39 PM	Are you going to take the 2nd deity position regardless of whether or not you get approval this turn?
Evil DM Mk3 04-29-07, 03:43 PM	I said that as all I am getting is "ums" and "ahs" if I don't get an objection then I will. Is this an objection? If it is then I won't. Simple as.
riverrock 04-29-07, 03:46 PM	I just figured that this was something that lied within my area of responsibility (new domains and creation of new deities). Am I correct about this? There has been at least one objection (from Delfedd.) I would like to hear from as many people as possible before I approve multiple deities per player. Ok? Am I correct on this?
Evil DM Mk3 04-29-07, 03:49 PM	Thank you for the responce. Consider the idea shelved. Yes it is your area of authory but you answers perviously where so vauge as to leave me confused as to what (of anything) was the conclusion of them despire SEVERAL direct questions. Now I have a unclear and indirect answer that at least has a clear direction on it I shall act accordingly.
Destrieth 04-29-07, 03:49 PM	I'm on the fence really. With players using two deities... I can see pros and cons to each side. And I think, honestly, the people who want to double up should be seriously interviewed by Riverrock. I don't want just anyone able to doubly affect the world in just one turn.
riverrock 04-29-07, 03:52 PM	Thank you for the responce. Consider the idea shelved. Yes it is your area of authory but you answers perviously where so vauge as to leave me confused as to what (of anything) was the conclusion of them despire SEVERAL direct questions. Now I have a unclear and indirect answer that at least has a clear direction on it I shall act accordingly. All I have ever said is that I would like as much input from as many people as possible before we went ahead with this. How, exactly, is this "unclear" or "vague." I was NEVER asked a direct question.
Evil DM Mk3 04-29-07, 03:58 PM	Well here is one for a start, the clearest but neither the first nor the last question, asked in genral becasue whilst this is PROBABLY your job this may come under other remits too. Are we doing the multiple god thing? But is was posted. If it is posted I have to assume it was read. I put forth a sugestion, I went at this slowly and have been ready to do what I have just done all along but rather than let this just beubble down and have people frustrated by teh at fact I was trying to give an objective example of how I would (and if I can WILL) deal with the issue and hopefuly to get pople to question me, help me (and of course any other person reading) see possible porblems ect ect ect.
riverrock 04-29-07, 04:07 PM	I have repeatedly answered questions and been ignored. I said that I would like to get input from multiple people before we went ahead and did this. I also said what would happen if a deity died, and I was ignored. TWICE. Even if we did approve this deity, you couldn't post for several days, so its not like this is in such a big rush. I answered that question, even though it wasn't asked of me. I put a lot of work into this that doesn't directly pertain to my enjoyment of the game. I try to keep deities profiles updated, I try to make it so new deity slots get filled. Maybe be a little bit more considerate in the future? Also, I try to read everything that gets posted, but a lot of stuff gets posted when I am away from the computer. I'm certainly not omniscent.
Evil DM Mk3 04-29-07, 04:13 PM	I certainly didn't mean any disrespect ect and I am sorry if any came about, it truth this is the eventual outcome I was expecting but I was hoping for a bit more interaction, not from you, but from our comunity in general, so far they have voted a decicive "whatever!". On another note, and to close the sybject down before napalm is reached for, so we have a new deiaty? I supose it is too much to hope that this one will not fall to evil and try and tear appart what little movment towards unity and harmony and not casuing armageddon this world has. Gods the way things are panning out Ravenloft will look like Playgroup!
Destrieth 04-29-07, 04:14 PM	=) I try as much as possible to give my opinion on all issues, even if Alusia is a tiny slice of the divine pie at the moment.
d24478667 04-29-07, 04:21 PM	I myself do like the idea of Blight.
riverrock 04-29-07, 04:21 PM	Yes, the response to the suggestion was a resonding "ehh...maybe." Yes, the trickery position finally got filled. I told the person that they could go ahead and post, but I don't know if they got my pm.:( Anyways, good isn't completely outmatched. The way I see it, we've got 3 deities specifically pulling for good, and about 3 are on the side of good without specifically being good. Evil only has 5 people on its side currently. (Although 6 if your concept goes through.) But hey, there's always a possibility of redemption.
Evil DM Mk3 04-29-07, 04:23 PM	((Just a clarification if my guy goes through good will gain a person fighting for them, in a oblique fashion)) HANG ON is it still going through? ((I will confess that I had hoped a quick intro as I could have tied it in with you last post, talking to the now-ugly dryad as one of my first actions. Getting my world view from her...))
riverrock 04-29-07, 04:24 PM	Just a quick interjection- If a deity dies, their player will get to pick one of two options: 1. They can pick a god available on the list of open deities. 2. They can be reconstitued as a new god. If they choose option "2," I will pick a domain that relates to their death or something like that. Keep in mind that they will be a different god, not a new version of their old god. One more time, just so everyone knows. Avunk, please pm so we can work out your new deity, assuming you chose option 2. (There are still open positions.)
riverrock 04-29-07, 04:27 PM	((Just a clarification if my guy goes through good will gain a person fighting for them, in a oblique fashion)) HANG ON is it still going through? ((I will confess that I had hoped a quick intro as I could have tied it in with you last post, talking to the now-ugly dryad as one of my first actions. Getting my world view from her...)) Oops...I guess I wasn't clear about the dryad. She's dead.... Yeah. I guess "speak with dead" might work though. Also, I personally wouldn't have a problem with multiple deities, so the option is still open. I just want to wait a little to see if a consensus develops. (Although the outlook so far is pretty bleak.)
Evil DM Mk3 04-29-07, 04:33 PM	Hang on where are you counting Kur-ah?
riverrock 04-29-07, 04:36 PM	I guess Kur-ah is a "sort of." He always struck me as being N(LG), what with the balance and the pact and all.
Evil DM Mk3 04-29-07, 04:42 PM	Kur-ah (in his old man shape) is, abmitedly a bit L, possibly even to the extent of being lN. By the same token Kur-ah (in her young girl shape) is possibly cN. If I tell you that there where at one point to be two other aspects (and prehaps there will be yet) you could probably guesws at their slants. Never the less Kur-ah is not Good. He prefers a clean solution and workable to a fair one. The pact was deigned to ensure that anyone who got in would not be able to mess around and BY THE WAY (I just saw this) I have previously stated that there is no way of leaving the covenant once it is singed. You CAN'T leave. :D If all the gods joined, an end to all interdieaty violance, which is what Kur-ah fears. Good is as disruptive as Evil, Amon has been a niggling anoyinance to Kur-ah all this time, Morintu is no longer to be trusted but if he wanted to our flase dragon could becoem Kur-ah's best mate. He is more balanced (balance BTW is a NN concept) than Amon or Morintu after all.
riverrock 04-29-07, 04:45 PM	Kur-ah (in his old man shape) is, abmitedly a bit L, possibly even to the extent of being lN. By the same token Kur-ah (in her young girl shape) is possibly cN. If I tell you that there where at one point to be two other aspects (and prehaps there will be yet) you could probably guesws at their slants. Never the less Kur-ah is not Good. He prefers a clean solution and workable to a fair one. The pact was deigned to ensure that anyone who got in would not be able to mess around and BY THE WAY (I just saw this) I have previously stated that there is no way of leaving the covenant once it is singed. You CAN'T leave. :D If all the gods joined, an end to all interdieaty violance, which is what Kur-ah fears. Good is as disruptive as Evil, Amon has been a niggling anoyinance to Kur-ah all this time, Morintu is no longer to be trusted but if he wanted to our flase dragon could becoem Kur-ah's best mate. He is more balanced (balance BTW is a NN concept) than Amon or Morintu after all. Kyrinian: Bring it on, old man. (joking, btw.) But what will happen now that he has tried to quit?... Suddenly my heart is filled with terror and I don't know why.
Evil DM Mk3 04-29-07, 04:47 PM	Nothing, but you are still bound by the terns of the pact and that means that you can't join Morintu's pact, unless he changes his rules.
riverrock 04-29-07, 04:50 PM	Nothing, but you are still bound by the terns of the pact and that means that you can't join Morintu's pact, unless he changes his rules. So what happens if he chooses to ignore the rules of the pact?
Evil DM Mk3 04-29-07, 04:51 PM	The idea I had was simply imprisonment followed by judging by other members. Either to let you go or to keep you improsoned. Note however the pact will do nothing if you join Morintu, as it is not ITS rules that you are breaking.
riverrock 04-29-07, 04:55 PM	The idea I had was simply imprisonment followed by judging by other members. Either to let you go or to keep you improsoned. Note however the pact will do nothing if you join Morintu, as it is not ITS rules that you are breaking. True, true. But he is choosing to ignore the pact in the future, which will probably mean that Morintu will be okay with it. Which may or may not become an issue.
Janusunaj 04-29-07, 05:22 PM	I don't mind multiple deities per player.
Evil DM Mk3 04-29-07, 05:22 PM	True, true. But he is choosing to ignore the pact in the future, which will probably mean that Morintu will be okay with it. I doubt it, not after his last responce on the subject.
d24478667 04-29-07, 06:23 PM	Yeah, but that was while Frostbite was still in the pact. When Kyrnian left, Morintu more then welcomed him.
Evil DM Mk3 04-29-07, 06:25 PM	Ah, but he didn't, did he?
Destrieth 04-29-07, 06:34 PM	Honestly? Holding a player against their will in a covenant that no longer suits their desires is all in all stupid. I'm going to outright say that you have no right to place that kind of demand in game.
Evil DM Mk3 04-29-07, 06:47 PM	OK well the problem is that I made the note WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAY back when someone wanted to leave over Morintu not joining. If only there was a roleplaying way to fix the problem. What with there being a god with power over pacts and the leader of the other pact being the only person who is making it a problem and all. :rolleyes:
Destrieth 04-29-07, 06:51 PM	It's simple, really. This game's rules are very loosely defined; simply edit the pact with respect toward the wishes of those players who want to leave. This is a game, after all, and enjoyment is our primary goal here, not follow some rules laid down arbitrarily.
Evil DM Mk3 04-29-07, 06:54 PM	OK but I feel RPing is better solution that random ret-conning.
Destrieth 04-29-07, 06:56 PM	It's not random retconning, it's doing away with an arbitrary rule that adds nothing to the fun of the game.
Evil DM Mk3 04-29-07, 06:58 PM	Well I would disagree with that as the pact is a fairly large theame, after all it could be argued that it started Morinut off on his current tangent amoung other things. If this change is made it does, after all, become totaly impotent.
Destrieth 04-29-07, 07:09 PM	Not... really. But whatever. I'm not going to argue with you, it's your pact.
Anuvrix 04-29-07, 09:56 PM	I am finally back from my weekend of wilderness... My opinions on the ooc so far- Multiple dieties-Great, fine with me Frostbite in Prison-don't really care, but i am god of helaing so i will want him out of ther so i can heal im. BTW im posting as the god of healing now.
riverrock 04-29-07, 10:27 PM	Could you hold off on that? If you really want to be a god of healing, I would prefer that you take the courage slot, which has been unfilled for some time. Also, I don't really see what healing has to do with what happened to Avunk. Also, the new deity should be seperately defined from the old one.
Return of the Flumph 04-29-07, 10:29 PM	Nice lateral thinking there with the new sun.
Delfedd 04-29-07, 10:37 PM	Yay! we have light again! And don't try to take it away from us! We will probably literally SLAUGHTER anyone who says "That's unfair. We should Put the sun back out." Yeah. we've got to many gods chanting for Ryth'eal's death. Any God who stands for his "Rights" will probably be struck down where he stands. "And yea, the gods of TyDyw complained about the rights of the people. And lo! Morintu Did not care. And then Morintu opened the mountain like a walnut, and layed into the gods therein. And there was a great wailing and gnashing of teeth." -The book of bloody stories, chapter 4, verses 30-34 This passage is often read at weddings. No one knows why. Also, according to Evil DM, Ryth'eal should be dead now. This is for two reasons. He stopped doing his duty as a SUN GOD. He was replaced by a better sun god.
ewancummins 04-30-07, 12:14 AM	So, we have an evil sun god? Awesome. I like it. What about Ry'theal, though? Sucks for him. I had a plan, but now I don't need to blow my 6 AP[still unpsent.... heehehehehe] on restarting the sun. Is there anyone still on the waiting list? I need to know, beacuse I may create a new god fairly soon, if someone wants to play one.
Return of the Flumph 04-30-07, 12:21 AM	Um...we already HAD an evil sun god.
riverrock 04-30-07, 12:26 AM	Yes, but Kyrinian isn't in denial about being evil. Unfortunately, we do not currently have anyone on the waiting list.:weep: However, we are considering allowing multiple deites per player if we are unable to find anyone new to play.
Evil DM Mk3 04-30-07, 01:49 AM	First, YAY that's over Second, wait, the sun wasn't in the sun gods portfolio? Trippy. Also, according to Evil DM, Ryth'eal should be dead now. This is for two reasons. He stopped doing his duty as a SUN GOD. He was replaced by a better sun god. Well it is not really acoridign to me but an idea extrapolated from somthing Lexus said, but seeing as the sun was turned off rather than destroyed I am not sure it applies. Oh and this is not me getting angry, this is me saying well done. I had planned to do the same myself next turn if this wasn't resolved (I made the first ater all).
Return of the Flumph 04-30-07, 02:45 AM	You guys are all coming into the mountain for the trials of Frostbite and Ryth'eal, I assume?
Delfedd 04-30-07, 06:03 AM	Yay! Trials are fun, especially when you don't actually have to listen to what is being said! :D
d24478667 04-30-07, 06:48 AM	Frostbite in Prison-don't really care, but i am god of helaing so i will want him out of ther so i can heal im. One question: How do you plan to heal him when he hasn't been hurt? He got put in the crystal before Rythe'al could retaliate.
Anuvrix 04-30-07, 07:01 AM	Srry bout that, posted before i finished reading.
Evil DM Mk3 04-30-07, 08:54 AM	First of all:So, we have an evil sun god? I'll get the obsidian dagger... Second, the pact, I am suprised that people are getting suprised over the fact that there is a downside to being in it and a way of enforcing the upside. As for not liking it, first there is a god who has supremem power over agreements and, if that fials to work, the pact is a physical object as well as a force. If the table is broken I exopect Tydyw would either cease to be (if randomly anhiated) or break up so each realm was a seperate plane (if broken with care).
Ronix 04-30-07, 09:17 AM	Why does a god need healing in the first place? gods are immortal....... it should b that they get imprisoned not killed.
Illeveun Bloodblaze 04-30-07, 09:49 AM	Wait about the sun thing, just because it wasn't on Ry'theal's portfolio, doesn't mean it shouldn't have been there, because how could he really have the domain sun, and his home the sun, with out being in his portfolio.
ewancummins 04-30-07, 12:16 PM	Twin suns? Nahhh..... What about a shift in portfolios? Is this like FR, where [ in theory, anyhoo] only one god in a pantheon may hold a particular portfolio at a time?
Evil DM Mk3 04-30-07, 12:19 PM	No rules about that at all for the overall game. A rule about that was placed in the Tydyw pact, but it merly states that portfolio aquisition IS allowed, so long as it is indierect.
Kirtanus_Albacron 04-30-07, 06:36 PM	I have a question about the sun-trees: The world is now getting double light, from both the sun-trees and the sun. which was the only reason Ryth'eal did not, after he was imprisoned, turn the sun back on. Would the world get scorched, or at least have light 24 hours a day, for the sun-trees, unlike other plants, thrive off of darkness.
d24478667 04-30-07, 06:39 PM	The thing is, the sun trees were NOT a viable replacement for the sun; they only cover a small area, and they can not help in Frostbite's plane; they would melt it. And seriously, if they were a sun-replacement, then why was everyone so mad?
Evil DM Mk3 04-30-07, 06:41 PM	I thought they where snuffed out...
riverrock 04-30-07, 06:52 PM	Yep, Kyrinian snuffed out the sun-trees before he relit the sun. It's not like they could do that much anyway, like d24478667 said.
Evil DM Mk3 04-30-07, 06:54 PM	((Line delivered for 100% comic effect, no bearing on desired stance.)) You know I bet Athena never had this trouble with logic getting in her mythos.
Evil DM Mk3 04-30-07, 07:04 PM	OK guys there will be a larger gap than usual before I post again. In case anyone wants my vote in the interim I move that Ryethial be forced to spend one divine month (even without a fixed ratio anymore A LOT OF TIME) as a mortal and away from the races he created (to prevent it becoming a god-king style holiday). As far as I am concerned he can save his AP till teh turn after. Kur-ah wants this becasue he feels it would be more fitting to teach him the consiquences of his actions (by forcing him to live in the damadged world) than to kill him.
Delfedd 04-30-07, 07:56 PM	Nonono! Then he'd come back in a rage with double the normal AP kill a bunch of lesser deities, and then come back with his normal AP. Also, it doesn't seem like that much of a punishment. I have a far better idea. We force him to become the darkness that he once drove off as the sun. He wishes he could see the sun, but is blinded by it's light. So he hides in crevaces beneath the earth, in the shade of a mortal's stride, between the stars at night. We make him become shadows.
Evil DM Mk3 04-30-07, 08:09 PM	Evil sun god? Good god of darkness? Forget being more sinister and dark than Ravenloft THIS IS EMO WORLD! (:D)
d24478667 04-30-07, 08:29 PM	Delfedd.... that is a great idea.
ewancummins 04-30-07, 08:30 PM	Saving my points for next month...
Delfedd 04-30-07, 08:32 PM	Thankye kindly. Hey, next week we're allowed to start making PHB creatures then, right? Also, Ryth'eal definately isn't good. Trust me. As the goodest god around, I would know these things.
d24478667 04-30-07, 09:04 PM	:rofl: Says that fallen god. But the god of freedom, and more importantly, a god of good, thinks he is so evil he deserves to live… but only in massive amounts of pain. PHB races, huh? I think I'm not gonna do those.
Return of the Flumph 04-30-07, 11:13 PM	I'm sorry, a "good" god of darkness? An "evil" sun god? Rythael is clearly evil. Kyrinian never did anything bad that I can recall.
riverrock 04-30-07, 11:14 PM	I'm sorry, a "good" god of darkness? An "evil" sun god? Rythael is clearly evil. Kyrinian never did anything bad that I can recall. All sun gods are evil. Its in the job description. Just look at Pelor and Lathander. And Ry'theal for that matter.;) ;)
Evil DM Mk3 05-01-07, 02:13 AM	Next month is year 1 month 13. So NO in fact.
Delfedd 05-01-07, 06:07 AM	Naw. That's the next month. I'm talking about next week. So month 13+1 equals year two.
Evil DM Mk3 05-01-07, 06:45 AM	Oh right I see. Next month is this week! (?:confused:?) Anyway I had an idea, there are bonud to be races that are coverted my multiple players, I know I intend to create dwarves but would be suprised if there werent others who did as well. Whislt physcial atributes, of course, cannot be changed, ther eis nothign to stop the second guy recreating the race with a differant culture is there? Kind of like early off shootes. It would be refreshing in any case ot have a world where each race ahs multiple outlooks.
Anuvrix 05-01-07, 08:17 AM	I like Delfed's idea, banish him from the light. We have finally reached 900 posts in the ooc.....
Return of the Flumph 05-01-07, 08:47 AM	Glykllivar has a better punishment in mind...one that won't give him a chance to take revenge :devil: On the other hand, having an exhiled shadow could be an excellent plot hook. Imagine him finding a handful of vampires that survived Avnuk's purging, converting them, creating some nightshades and shadows for good measure, and vowing revenge on the world of light. In short, exhiling him to the shadows would be a terrible idea on the part of the gods. But it would be an awesome one on the part of the game designers.
Anuvrix 05-01-07, 12:16 PM	On the other hand, having an exhiled shadow could be an excellent plot hook. Imagine him finding a handful of vampires that survived Avnuk's purging, converting them, creating some nightshades and shadows for good measure, and vowing revenge on the world of light. In short, exhiling him to the shadows would be a terrible idea on the part of the gods. But it would be an awesome one on the part of the game designers. Exactly:ayyyy!: :clap: Hmmmmm.....:plotting: :evillaugh :angelhide
Camu 05-01-07, 01:09 PM	Is it still possible to join this game? or is it to late? because i would love to join?
Evil DM Mk3 05-01-07, 01:25 PM	It will only be to late as game ends! There are (I think) three possitons open, a god(or godess) of illusion, a goddess of couradge and a god of "evil against evil". The second is intermediate, as it the last if trends are followed, the first is still undeterimined. Riverrock is the guy to contact. Don't let the fact that you may not be up to speed on our past put you off though, it may make things more realistic. If you do join please note that it iwll not be untill year 2 (to start a week thrusday) that you will be able to make Player's handbook races.
Evil DM Mk3 05-01-07, 01:33 PM	What would you want to do?
Camu 05-01-07, 01:36 PM	Ok, sounds great. I'm still reading to the entire second thread, so i get the entire story :) I'm almost halfway. I had an idea for a god of oozes, decay and hunger, but maybe this could be fitted with the possision of evil vs evil? I have to read some more in your ingame thread to make up my final mind. I'll also post the god in this thread first, then you can check if it fits the game or not.
Evil DM Mk3 05-01-07, 01:40 PM	Well like I said, contact riverrock, although if I might say, we are running very low on good gods ATM. Also the posts on the first page (and the ones they link to) are my compolation threads, reading them should be, theorecticaly, good enough.
Return of the Flumph 05-01-07, 04:09 PM	Actually, a god of starvation and hunger could very easily have come into being during the Long Night. Don't give up that idea yet.
Camu 05-01-07, 05:13 PM	Well if it is possible to stay with my concept i will, but iff not, I'm willing to adapt (or at least a little ;) )
Kirtanus_Albacron 05-01-07, 05:24 PM	Actually, a god of starvation and hunger could very easily have come into being during the Long Night. Don't give up that idea yet. I like that name, the Long Night sounds catchy.
Return of the Flumph 05-01-07, 05:34 PM	I didn't make it up...I think it was Ewancummins who coined the term.
Destrieth 05-01-07, 06:30 PM	Considering I made Courage and I'm a lesser deity, it'd actually be one step lower than me. Demi-god. Also, I am putting Alusia on hiatus. This whole shebang was fun for awhile but as Riverrock mentioned a bit ago it stopped being enjoyable. The pool of inspiration has stagnated and since very few people are joining (of the two who have wanted to join, one of them was because I asked him) I'm just not going to worry about it anymore. I'll keep watching the game and offering opinions in OOC, but consider Alusia asleep for awhile. Good night, and good luck.
Delfedd 05-01-07, 08:48 PM	I've had an idea. The races (despite our protests to the contrary) are entirely under our own control. I think that this needs to change. So I propose a random table. Three random tables in fact. Table 1 would be the races Table 2 would be the course of action that they take. These things could be things like "Develop science, develop Magic, develop battle techniques", declare a holy war, declare a secular war, Move towards athiesm, move towards another god, become allied. Table 3 would be the second table of races. This means who they aim their development at, if applicable. For example, if merfolk begin preparing for war against the inevitables, they may make walking machines that go on land. Or something. Remember, these things work both ways. While you might find some of your populous allied with yugoloths, you might also find that the nightmares are strongly allied with you.
d24478667 05-01-07, 08:56 PM	Frostbite doesn't control the Arctic Rose; he protects them, and may eventually lead them to war, but he in no way controls them.
Delfedd 05-01-07, 09:11 PM	Exactly. But you still post what they do. That's the point. We declare that we don't control them, but we really do. The first thing I'm going to do is get these creatures grouped based on population. If you have any objections, I can change this (duh). My logic for this is that the "Many" creatures will have a higher percent chance to be chosen. As time goes on, the focus becomes more on mortals and less on outsiders, so these creatures may move down to the some Note that the race can do things to itself. If it is a nonsensical result, like "Devil alliance with Devil," then I will roll again. However, if it is Devils prepare for a holy war against devil (one turn to initiate), then a faction of devil's break off from the normal devils and makes a holy war. Many: There's probably many different kinds of these OR they are particularly numerous inevitables Slaad Yugoloths, Angels, Devils rilmani nightmares myconids Some: there are an average number of these creatures lung mannikhorns minotaurs centaurs tritons, , , solanthi, artic rose lizardfolk, duskfolk nereids glitterhaunts, lizardfolk, dragon turtles, ocean giants, Morkoths, hobgoblins, orcs, Worgs titans Djinni merfolk keepers Athach Rare: These creatures either recently suffered extinction, drow ezra vaati (undead) dryads lycanthropes, dragons coautls tendriculos If you think that this is in error, please tell me here.
Delfedd 05-01-07, 09:12 PM	Exactly. But you still post what they do. That's the point. We declare that we don't control them, but we really do. The first thing I'm going to do is get these creatures grouped based on population. If you have any objections, I can change this (duh). My logic for this is that the "Many" creatures will have a higher percent chance to be chosen. As time goes on, the focus becomes more on mortals and less on outsiders, so these creatures may move down to the some Note that the race can do things to itself. If it is a nonsensical result, like "Devil alliance with Devil," then I will roll again. However, if it is Devils prepare for a holy war against devil (one turn to initiate), then a faction of devil's break off from the normal devils and makes a holy war. Many: There's probably many different kinds of these OR they are particularly numerous inevitables Slaad Yugoloths, Angels, Devils rilmani nightmares myconids Some: there are an average number of these creatures lung mannikhorns minotaurs centaurs tritons, , , solanthi, , duskfolk nereids glitterhaunts, lizardfolk, dragon turtles, , Morkoths, hobgoblins, orcs, Worgs titans Djinni merfolk keepers Athach Rare: These creatures either recently suffered major damage drow ezra vaati (undead) dryads lycanthropes, dragons coautls tendriculos ocean giants artic rose lizardfolk If you think that this is in error, please tell me here. This will also make Avatars useful in some way. Having an avatar means that if you are rolled on the first roll (to determine who is doing what) nothing happens because your people listen to your avatar.
d24478667 05-01-07, 09:17 PM	Oh, Okay; I thought you meant the gods. Also, I reposted the arguments of Frostbite for everyone's ease. Arctic Rose should be rare until year two begins, giving them time to rebuild.
Return of the Flumph 05-01-07, 09:58 PM	Same way with ocean giants. Anyway, I'm not so sure I like this random table idea. It sounds like it will more often ruin our vision and concepts for our races and create far-fetched scenarios more than anything else. I think that with a bit of maturity and cooperation, we can do all of this ourselves. For example, if another player says "meanwhile, a group of ocean giants who had abandoned the deep sea to roam the saltwater marshes of continent X accidentally stumble on the ancient ruins" I would not object.
d24478667 05-01-07, 10:17 PM	Right; the same thing happened with the lizard folk. I am fine with either system.
ewancummins 05-01-07, 10:19 PM	Yeah, I'm pretty sure I called it the Long Night. That seemed to sum it up nicely.:) The table idea is good, but I can see why people might prefer to handle things without tables. I kind of like how there's no dice rolling action- just RP and spending AP.
Evil DM Mk3 05-02-07, 05:44 AM	Natrualy there is teh question of who rolls, but there is another issue, random tables mean that, sooner or later, one population is going to go insane and do stuip things, becasue the dice said so. Gods with few races can cope but I will be reduced to telling my races no, ad infenitum.
Delfedd 05-02-07, 06:18 AM	The population goes insane, but it can be remedied by spending 2 ap to guide populous. All of these things on the table take at least one turn to come to pass. So if it says "Minotaurs: Holy war: Centaurs" you have that whole turn to use 2 ap to stop them. This is why it makes avatars so much more useful. You spend the three AP once, and you don't have to do it again until the Avatar is destroyed. Perhaps we could add "Create prophet" to the AP list. For 2 ap you get a prophet who speaks your ways to the people for two turns.
Camu 05-02-07, 08:16 AM	Ok, i have send a PM to riverrock and I think i will go for the spot of evil vs evil god. Don't know exactly how you get evil vs evil, so I made a god with my original concept, namely hunger and oozes. Hopefully in the story i can get to the point of evil vs evil :) NAME: He-who-Hungers, The Faceless Lord, Lord of Nothing,… [DR:11] Intermediate Deity, Cleric20/Oozemaster15 Symbol:A Worm with tentacles. Home: Void Alignment: Neutral Evil (maybe a bit to the chaotic) Domains: Hunger, Slime Portfolio: hunger, slimes, oozes, jellies Worshipers:- Favored Weapon:Tentacle or Pseudopod Avatar:- He looks like a giant worm with tentacles. His skin is made out of a black an purple looking crust, whitch constantly shifts and cracks, and oozes out green slime.Thousands of small eyes cover it’s body. Somethimes you can see faces been formed onto the crustlike structure of it's skin. The faces usually show the same emotions he has. On it’s back are several volcano-like structures that constantly emit a purple black cloud of spores. A foul odor constantly surrounds it, but it can suppress the effect when needed. ---------------------- Ok this is what i have so far. I based it on both juiblex and ungoliant from the silmarilion, but hey. I still have to figure out a name for him I hope it is acceptable for you (also for it's skin, it looks similar to that of an alkalith from fiend folio) I also know there isn't any material for oozemaster beyond lvl 10, but he is the god of slimes so he can have 15+
Camu 05-02-07, 11:16 AM	Also, what is the first time i can post something about my god in the IC thread. Also, what year and month will i start in when i enter ingame?
Return of the Flumph 05-02-07, 02:06 PM	I can see how those two concepts work. You can say that Morintu's severed heart, once it came to sentience, wandered the dying world in the horror and starvation of the Long Night. As the godling struggled to survive, it realized that a great evil must be loose if the land is in such terrible shape, and that evil must be consumed....devoured....by any means neccesary. A god of desperation, bitterness, and resentment. The lord of all those who are driven to evil by virtue of their harsh environments.
Return of the Flumph 05-02-07, 03:21 PM	So...so TRUE!!!! (sniff)
Evil DM Mk3 05-02-07, 03:33 PM	Sorry what? /|\ Also on the races, I think tables MIGHT work, but only if we each fill in the peramiters, for example (assuming this is a d% table) we mgiht be given a table that begins: Develope industry Trade with (random race) ect ect But we fill in the %s so we can simulate the mindset of the race (and who ever does the rolls can use a default table if we don't bother to send them data) This way the actions are not likely to be as random.
Camu 05-02-07, 03:55 PM	You can say that Morintu's severed heart, once it came to sentience, wandered the dying world in the horror and starvation of the Long Night. As the godling struggled to survive, it realized that a great evil must be loose if the land is in such terrible shape, and that evil must be consumed....devoured....by any means neccesary. A god of desperation, bitterness, and resentment. The lord of all those who are driven to evil by virtue of their harsh environments. Sounds good to me, so I grow out of the heart of Morintu...? So then I only need to know when I can start posting ingame?
Evil DM Mk3 05-02-07, 03:58 PM	Just a guess but probably in time for year 1 month 13, tommorrow. I change it round at 9:00pm my local time, in about 24 hours from now in fact.
Camu 05-02-07, 05:01 PM	So when the 13th month starts I can enter the first post?
Evil DM Mk3 05-02-07, 05:03 PM	It was a guess, I would wait for conformation if I where you, however it would be logical.
Return of the Flumph 05-02-07, 05:08 PM	Sounds good to me, so I grow out of the heart of Morintu...? Yeah, read the fight scene between Morintu and Amon. That's where you are born.
d24478667 05-02-07, 05:21 PM	Morintu stood atop his tallest tower of the ancient city of the Vaati. The last of the Vaati where dying. His priests... there where only ten left. Not long enough to carry on their line. Each one was old. Not strong enough to invest themselves in the Air Womb. Morintu wept as he granted the ritual to turn them into undead. Slow creatures, but wiser than ever. Wise beyond their years. (Creating mummies) Morintu had pondered the world. The balance. It was off balance. He was sure of that. He realized now what had happened. The “good” had become evil. Evil was everywhere. Light... light was darkness. Darkness had become light. Morintu had the solution to the problem. It came in the form of a tiny parasite which Morintu called the Abel. Black an oblong, it lodges itself into the back of a victim's skull and turns the creature into a zombie-like creature. The creature would shamble through a town, more Abel's falling from his eyes, ears and nose. The abels would spread through a town until there was hundreds of Abel zombies. These creatures would form together until they created an Abelok. A huge, shambling corpse monster which spread Abels on each step, forming another Abelok. Morintu let the first creature go. He let it go free in the cities of Amon. The good was concentrated there. Soon, five Abeloks where storming the cities of Amon. Amon immediately dispatched titans and lung to defend the younger Merfolks and Mannikhornes. Mannikhornes, were immediately hidden in the Crystal Caves of the earth. where they could draw strength from Amon's blood. Meanwhile, Amon had rushed to Morintu's palace. "Why do the teeth of babes suckle on the flesh of living meat? Why are the dead taking life, and what have you to do with this? The souls of my worshipers cry out to me for your punishment. Surrender now and you will be punished moderately." “Don't you understand? I had no choice. Look at how your creatures rule over others! How they lord their godlyness over the 'lesser beings!' They have become vile monsters without knowing it themselves. But I can see now. I can see clearer than anyone has ever seen before.” Turning, it is revealed what Morintu has done. He lacks eyes. In the sockets of the snakes skull are a pair of black pits. The stars can be seen through the darkness. “And now... I see that you are the darkest of them all. I see that my eyes had impeded me in my search for true sight. Now, lord of Darkness, feel the bite of my cold steel.” Morintu reached out with his chains, gripping the deity by the wrists and holding him tightly. Drawing Punishment from the air, he dove towards Amon. “It is useless to resist. I will never stop trying to stop you. You will never be free of my vengence. I will have you, and I will Destroy you!” Amon curled his mouth in a sneer. "I will destroy you!" He said in a mocking voice. The Staff then premptively lodged itself into the spine of Morintu, trying to break it, and then Amon, had ghosted away from him. Morintu started to smile and reply with a wity reparte when he felt a burning pain in his abdomen. He discorperated, and reappeared behind Amon. He looked at his stomach. A spear wound had pierced his stomach. The divine blood was spilling over the ground. Morintu started to flap his wings, raise himself into the sky. His dark blood spilled over the field of the suntrees. "Morintu, it is not too late. You will learn to turn to Light if you but only help yourself. Repent and see the spirits of holiness, and you will be spared." “Repent?” Morintu Spits in Amon's face and reaches with one hand to drain the god's lungs of all air. Reaching to Ahura-Amon's chest, Morintu succeeded instead, of grabbing something of a more alien nature. Black ichor came onto Morintu's hand, and he had felt some strange organ. Disgusted and ready to press his advantage, Morintu cast aside the strange organ and drove his sword towards Amon's heart. Trapped in Ahura-Amon's godly aura, Amon promptly tore our the heart of Morintu with out touching the Sky Lord. Quickly, he then stared at the odd body part Morintu had taken from him, hoping he was alright. (Begat God(Heart)Evil against Evil. This is for ease of use.
Evil DM Mk3 05-02-07, 06:34 PM	OK who here has Tome of Magic? Becasue casting Ryethal down could easily make our very own Amon (the ToM Amon, not ours)
Kirtanus_Albacron 05-02-07, 06:46 PM	That would be interesting, except, as a vestige, would Ryth'eal turn, pretty much, unplayable?
Evil DM Mk3 05-02-07, 06:48 PM	Oh ye, dead god man, dead god. It was just an idea for eventual end if you do end up dead and want to play a differant guy.
Return of the Flumph 05-02-07, 07:15 PM	I want my Far Realms enemy to be named "Jenova." :D Just kidding.
jamvid 05-02-07, 07:17 PM	I have some problems with Anuvrixs new deity. there already is a god of healing. with the healing domain. We could have another, but there was no explanation to why Avnir has been made at all, except that he was the twisted remnant of Avnuk through Avnuks crystal, but, to my knowledge, Anuvrix never said that Avnuk put part of himself into the crystal, so it seems Avnuk died pretty completely once inside Morintus stomach. one last thing: when a previous God died/left (ahuizotl), the remnant deity was one divine category lower, not the same. By this previous ruling by riverrock, I think Avnir, if created, should be at demi-god status on an unrelated note: I picked the worst week to leave! a lot of interesting stuff has happened the mythology of this world rocks. on a seperate unrelated note: we seem to have a lot of inactive gods: Absaul-rote* Ahuizotl Akhier Kersys* K’Thymon The Scaled One Alusia* *- has said they wish to come back, iirc what should we do with these deities that just stop acting? I know I'd love to make a little pact magic, but that doesn't solve the problem of what to do with their portfolio and domains. we could have successors, like with Ahuizotl and Pholtone, but it might be repetitive unless we give an explanation like gods are recycled energy of the universe. on a note unrelated to the first two, but segwayed from the third: does anyone mind if I create binding?
Evil DM Mk3 05-02-07, 07:23 PM	Wierd thing for a god to make, the one thing he can NEVER control...
Kirtanus_Albacron 05-02-07, 07:26 PM	please not with me.:D
Return of the Flumph 05-02-07, 09:52 PM	Is everyone out of AP? If so, why don't we just start the next month.
ewancummins 05-02-07, 10:00 PM	I'm saving my AP for next month. I assumed we'd wait till the trial was over to start a new month, but that's not my bailliwick.
d24478667 05-02-07, 10:04 PM	Heads up; in 18 hours, it is next month; at that time, if no one has voted no on me being free, then I am free. Damn, that was a little... fast. Shouldn't killing a god take some AP, for an attack god action?
Kirtanus_Albacron 05-03-07, 01:20 AM	Yes, I think it would take AP to do that action.
Return of the Flumph 05-03-07, 01:24 AM	I thought about that. However, the part where he said "I go back to the block and bare my neck" led me to conclude that killing him would hardly require much effort. If the consensus is that killing Rytheal should have costed AP (which I don't currently have), I will take it back.
Evil DM Mk3 05-03-07, 04:26 AM	I agree that this should not have costed AP as you just let it happen.
Delfedd 05-03-07, 05:59 AM	Nope. No AP needed. You bared your neck. *shrug*
d24478667 05-03-07, 06:04 AM	Okay, sounds good. Just making sure.
Evil DM Mk3 05-03-07, 06:07 AM	Just anote to tehose playing Arethun, Morntu, Kyrinian, Forstbite, Glykllivar and Kakavindus. It happens this month. And in order Death, Entropy, Fear, Famine, Paranoia and Pestilance. ((That'll keep em guessing))
Delfedd 05-03-07, 06:16 AM	Oh... that entropy thing is coming out of the middle? :D OK.
d24478667 05-03-07, 07:13 AM	What's yours, Evil DM? 7 Horsemen FTW! :D If I rememver correctly: Death, Entropy, Fear, Famine, Paranoia and Pestilence. All, Grey , Maroon , Red ,Black , Dark blue , White . THe bolded ones are not my creation.
Evil DM Mk3 05-03-07, 07:18 AM	War Please note, Death is not one of them, he is insurance. The aoproved method is to make an apt prison that also alows you to harvest the energy, an evolve physicaly. What are those colors?
Anuvrix 05-03-07, 08:12 AM	Being a necromancer, avnuk was very secretive, so as such, he did it secretly. I cant seem to find any problem with me creating Avnir. You all said earlier that dietys can both have the same domain.
Evil DM Mk3 05-03-07, 10:13 AM	Um it is STILL too early for elves. Later today it becomes the last month of year one. Also where do you think your head is? It is currently in the realm of mirrors (and will probably remain there.)
Return of the Flumph 05-03-07, 10:54 AM	GODSDAMNIT!!!! I killed Rytheal to prevent Morintu from doing it and starting a war between Tydwy and Enfermia. And now he has to steal the damned head and anger Kur-ah anyway! Last time I try to do anything helpful. :mad:
Evil DM Mk3 05-03-07, 12:14 PM	Hey last I checked I had the head and if Morintu knows anything he knows that YUsgoths stole it. This is unlikely to flare up any more.
Anuvrix 05-03-07, 12:15 PM	:waits: ........
Evil DM Mk3 05-03-07, 12:23 PM	:waits: ........ What? Domains ect = riverrock
riverrock 05-03-07, 03:08 PM	Yup, my jurisdiction. I posted before what would happen if a deity died. You have 2 options. 1. Play an open deity. (There are still open slots) 2. Be a deity that formed from (but is not actually) the deceased deity, and relates to that death somehow. Condsidering that you were eaten, I'm guessing "Watery Death" would be appropriate, but I am willing to negotiate.
Return of the Flumph 05-03-07, 03:10 PM	Henrietta, the Godess of Being Eaten Alive by a Giant Satanic Snake.
riverrock 05-03-07, 03:11 PM	Perfect. :) But the name needs work. He isn't Avunk, pt II. He's something new.
Return of the Flumph 05-03-07, 03:13 PM	Better?
riverrock 05-03-07, 03:14 PM	Absolutely. Henrietta is, IMHO, the best deity ever created.
Camu 05-03-07, 03:24 PM	I still need a name for my god :( I hate naming
Evil DM Mk3 05-03-07, 03:26 PM	Ooulzoth Ooo-ul-zoth Long vowel sound is indicative of slime and oozing, ul soulds a little like ill and zoth just sounds mysteruious.
Anuvrix 05-03-07, 04:19 PM	The basis behind me creating a diety from the death of Avnuk is that when he made the crystal he sealed all that was good inside of him inside of it. Not openly, but in secret. When morintu killed him the good was released and became Avnir. But, because it is impossible to truly break a spirit into two pieces, the evil of Avnuk remained, but is still seperate from Avnir. Avnuk is dead, but his evil remains, and it haunts the good reincarnation of himself. He was formed upon the death of Avnuk, but he has no ap until next month or even next year, if the need be. this is what i sent to Riverrock in a PM. It is true, and Avnuk wouldn't have attacked Morintu if he still had the other half of himself.
riverrock 05-03-07, 04:30 PM	The basis behind me creating a diety from the death of Avnuk is that when he made the crystal he sealed all that was good inside of him inside of it. Not openly, but in secret. When morintu killed him the good was released and became Avnir. But, because it is impossible to truly break a spirit into two pieces, the evil of Avnuk remained, but is still seperate from Avnir. Avnuk is dead, but his evil remains, and it haunts the good reincarnation of himself. He was formed upon the death of Avnuk, but he has no ap until next month or even next year, if the need be. this is what i sent to Riverrock in a PM. It is true, and Avnuk wouldn't have attacked Morintu if he still had the other half of himself. That has nothing to do with healing, we have no way to verify that you actually thought this up when you made the crystal, Avunk didn't have a good side, and you still ignored what I said would happen. Now, changing the point is Ry'theal actually dead?
Janusunaj 05-03-07, 04:31 PM	I'm not an OverDeity. I have 20 DvR. Not 21 DvR. I only have evolved physically, thats all.
riverrock 05-03-07, 04:33 PM	I misread it as increasing dvr. Sorry.
Evil DM Mk3 05-03-07, 04:34 PM	Well if knowladge is power, I am in the front there :D. I don't see how Amon could have reached overdieaty. As fory Ryethal, um, head severed from sholders... In the deffence of Anuvrix I can see the new god as an inversion of teh old one and whilst he never siad he did certain things of certain thing shere certain things they make sence. For example I assumed that he was bound to the crystal at some level, the possibility of otherwise never entred my head!
riverrock 05-03-07, 04:36 PM	Well if knowladge is power, I am in the front there :D. I don't see how Amon could have reached overdieaty. As fory Ryethal, um, head severed from sholders... In the deffence of Anuvrix I can see the new god as an inversion of teh old one and whilst he never siad he did certain things of certain thing shere certain things they make sence. For example I assumed that he was bound to the crystal at some level, the possibility of otherwise never entred my head! And yet, he posted twice after that. Is he dead, or is he a talking head? And you need to re-read my post. Ninja-editing skills, after all. I realized he evolved physically, not raise dvr.
Anuvrix 05-03-07, 04:37 PM	You have no way to prove that i didn't think it up when he made the crystal. What is the problem here, I cannot see anything wrong with my new diety. Or maybe im blind. Morintu, can you see the problem? What is soooo wrong about this.
Anuvrix 05-03-07, 04:39 PM	By the way... He did have a good side, he was neutral to start, a balance of good and evil. he seperated them, and now Avnir is left.
riverrock 05-03-07, 04:39 PM	1. I posted repeatedly what would happen if a deity died. You either never saw it or ignored it. 2. Avunk was never good, and his death had nothing to do with healing. And you're retroconning. AGAIN. 3.I approve new deities. Either you work out what would happen to Avunk with me, or you take one of the open deity slots.
Anuvrix 05-03-07, 04:46 PM	What would be a better idea for his domains then? I have read what you posted on new dieties from death, and i think Avnir fits it well. Avnir is the opposite of Avnuk. Avnir is skitzophrenic(spelling?) If there is anything else you would like to know, ask.
Evil DM Mk3 05-03-07, 04:52 PM	Ok ok ok. Let me pitch somthing. JUST THROWING IDEAS ABOUT OK? Good Avunk was digested, right? What happens when you digest? You reduce things to their base components. What is at the heart of Necromancy? Positive and Negavite energy and the exchange therof. By that logic you could justify a NEUTRAL god with the healing domain. JUST AN IDEA. And this from a guy who had his hopes and dreams shot down. Sight. RIP Blight. Oh and swearing or even ***** is uncalled for.
d24478667 05-03-07, 04:54 PM	That was uncalled for. Don't call someone a bi*ch cause they follow the system they made and you should have been aware of said system. Either that, or you were aware, and ignored it cause you didn't like it.
Janusunaj 05-03-07, 04:58 PM	Kur Ah, you can still have blight. Blight is from the organ Morintu pulled out of me. I pulled out Morintu's heart.
Evil DM Mk3 05-03-07, 04:59 PM	I never got riverrock's ok. Mind you that would make us (blight and the ooze guy) brothers. Interestin' 'casue the ideas are somewhat simmilar.
Anuvrix 05-03-07, 05:03 PM	Srry about that, got angry. fixed it. But still. Would it stuff your hunger for strict rules if i change the domain to Shat upon the floor?
Anuvrix 05-03-07, 05:03 PM	The above post was in all seriousness....
Janusunaj 05-03-07, 05:05 PM	Evil DM you SHOULD have pleading rights since you are the GM in this thred now.
Evil DM Mk3 05-03-07, 05:05 PM	Shat upon the floor? :surrender What did you just apologies for? On a side note, I still REEEEELY want to do blight. I can even put Kur-ah in the back seat for the rest of the game (starting at the end of the turn after this one) taking no AP actions and only role playing.
Anuvrix 05-03-07, 05:07 PM	:surrender What did you just apologies for? in my previous post, i put in some vugarity aimed at riverrock, i fixed and apoligized.
Evil DM Mk3 05-03-07, 05:09 PM	I KNOW THAT! It was ment to indicate that you just did it again. Please stop. Maybe becasue I am British, but swearing (including words that exist puerly to stand in for swear words) just GRATES. Find an inteligent way of saying it, or don't say it at all!
Anuvrix 05-03-07, 05:15 PM	well, im not British, and vulgarity is in my nature. Im American. I try not to say many things as intelligently as i can, because others frown upon thier own misunderstanding. (i have an iq of over 130)( i tend to confuse some people when speaking at a higher grammatical and logical level)
Janusunaj 05-03-07, 05:16 PM	I got over 150 IQ, and talk like Peter Griffin.
Anuvrix 05-03-07, 05:21 PM	This is all besides the point. I would like to get this all worked out by tomorrow. (Hmmmm.. area many people on here above the norm in iq?)
d24478667 05-03-07, 05:21 PM	Im American. I'm american also. And ya know what? I still don't go around calling people bi*ch. I'm not vulgar, and I bet I am younger then you. So no, americans are not vulgar, and some of us mature faster then others. I am sorry that Anuvrix enforced this negative stereotype.
Evil DM Mk3 05-03-07, 05:22 PM	And mine is 123 or 156, special note however, very severe dislexia means that measurments are not reliable. (As the two values may indicate) Please cut out the :censored: ing
Evil DM Mk3 05-03-07, 05:25 PM	Oh Frostbite :clap::clap: (At the risk of reforcing a steriotype) Jolly good show! Well that is steriotypical english. I am welsh. So there.
Kirtanus_Albacron 05-03-07, 05:28 PM	The first post was if AP was need to kill Ryth'eal the second was just some RPing, adding more to the world from attacks and deaths of dieties. Would it be okay if the elves became dormant, like in a stasis and underground, until the new year?
Evil DM Mk3 05-03-07, 05:31 PM	GODS YES Ryethal is dead! It is one thing to leap and grab a coockie from a high shelf. Quite another to take one given to you. Oh this is post 1001! Woot!
Kirtanus_Albacron 05-03-07, 05:34 PM	I know that, I was just explaining it the riverrock, who asked a question.
Evil DM Mk3 05-03-07, 05:40 PM	Ah, ok, it was missread (by me) as a question.
Janusunaj 05-03-07, 05:42 PM	We need some NPCs to play as the DvR 1 or 0 creatures that succeed the Ordeals.
Kirtanus_Albacron 05-03-07, 05:44 PM	The last part was a question, the first wasn't.
Camu 05-03-07, 05:47 PM	Mind you that would make us (blight and the ooze guy) brothers. Interestin' 'casue the ideas are somewhat simmilar. With the ooze guy, you mean me? Who's the blight one?
Janusunaj 05-03-07, 05:47 PM	Born from the organ Morintu tore out of my chest.
d24478667 05-03-07, 05:50 PM	Blight was to be played by Evil Dm til you came around.
Camu 05-03-07, 05:50 PM	Oh two torn out body parts, got it :)
Camu 05-03-07, 05:52 PM	Blight was to be played by Evil Dm til you came around Don't I play the heart of Morentu pulled out by Amon? now I am confused:confused:
riverrock 05-03-07, 05:52 PM	Thank you for answering my question, Kirtanus. On a slightly different subject, do you want to play a deity created from Ry'theal, or do you want to take one of the open positions. Anyway, evil_dm, even though the slot is now taken, you could still use a similar concept. I was thinking about opening up the Vile Darkness domain, and the blightlord could fill this slot with a few modifications.
Janusunaj 05-03-07, 05:53 PM	I don't see what the problem is. I thought that Camu thought he was from Morintu's heart. DM can still ceom from mine.
riverrock 05-03-07, 05:56 PM	I don't see what the problem is. I thought that Camu thought he was from Morintu's heart. DM can still ceom from mine. When did Amon loose his heart?
Janusunaj 05-03-07, 05:57 PM	Amon did not lose his heart. But he was infected with an alien like organ. When Morintu tried to grab into Amon's chest and riip out his lungs, he grabbed the alien organ instead.
Camu 05-03-07, 05:58 PM	Unless I misinterpreted the earlier posts, i thought both of them tore an organ from each other, so there should be two, no?
Evil DM Mk3 05-03-07, 05:58 PM	Vile darkness, isn't that BOVD? That was specificaly ruled out at the start. Oh Camu, do you like the name I sugested? Anyway here is Blight as he currently stands. Blight Father blight, lord of degredation, master of corruption [DR:11] Intermediate Deity, Cleric 20, rogue 15, [AP:4] Symbol: A gold ring Home: Void Alignment: Chaotic Evil Domains: Pestilance, Madness Portfolio: Sickness, monsters, challanges, danger, threats, evolution of good, degridation of evil. Worshipers: Blighters, rogues, cultists, (dogma has little apeal to most evil creatures) Favored Weapon: Thrusting hand (punching dagger) Avatar: Humanoid dressed in smart and neat black clothes that are at the height of fashion in the area, Left half handsom but cold with sholder length black hair, blue eye and neat moustash, right half degraded rotting slime and puss covered body with a white eye and stingy grey hair. Right hand is gloved. I would dump madness for vile darkness (and work really hard to get it back, obviously) if I took it.
riverrock 05-03-07, 06:02 PM	I believe that it is in Lords of Madness as well. At least, that's what the domain list we've been using says.
Kirtanus_Albacron 05-03-07, 06:04 PM	I would like to be a diety created from Ryth'eal, I have already figured out some cool Rping
Evil DM Mk3 05-03-07, 06:05 PM	Oh so it is. Cool. Hey hey hey! A force of darkness so vile that even the gods of evil themselves are repulsed. Nice tag line, no?
riverrock 05-03-07, 06:06 PM	Ok, send me your idea and we'll work it out.:)
Evil DM Mk3 05-03-07, 06:07 PM	And me?
riverrock 05-03-07, 06:08 PM	I don't see a problem with it. So, you'll be made from the alien organ, and have pestilence and vile darkness, right? Sounds fine.
Evil DM Mk3 05-03-07, 06:09 PM	*craks knuckles* When can I start? Oh and what exactly is the theme of vile darkness?
Janusunaj 05-03-07, 06:10 PM	Well, from Skeletor evilness to Hitler evilness.
riverrock 05-03-07, 06:11 PM	This turn, actually. Unfortunately, I don't have any of the books with Vile Darkness. Does anyone know the theme of this domain? I would assume vileness...and darkness. But I don't know.:(
Janusunaj 05-03-07, 06:12 PM	Imagine killing puppies one day and killing hundreds of Jews the next. Killing puppies = evil Killing hundreds of Jews = vile darkness.
Evil DM Mk3 05-03-07, 06:12 PM	Heh heh heh heh heee. *Weeze* Koff Koff. Ahem, I do apologies. Just a little phlegm, I am sorry.
riverrock 05-03-07, 06:13 PM	... ... Is this what it actually says in the book?
Janusunaj 05-03-07, 06:14 PM	No. It just says that VD is worse than regular evil.
Camu 05-03-07, 06:15 PM	well my god just hatched, so to speak ;) and yes i loved the name
riverrock 05-03-07, 06:15 PM	No. It just says that VD is worse than regular evil. Well, there you go.... I guess you can go with that, evil dm.
Camu 05-03-07, 06:17 PM	then we have a god of evil vs evil and a god of evil'er than evil. This is getting weard
Return of the Flumph 05-03-07, 06:19 PM	Vile darkness has a lot of shadow-related spells that favor evil over good (like one spell that blinds good creatures in a certain area, or a version of Darkness that does unholy damage).
Camu 05-03-07, 06:25 PM	Still have a question though, for the classes of my deity, i also took 15 levels of oozemaster although there are technicaly only 10 Any other class that could fit the theme?
Janusunaj 05-03-07, 06:26 PM	If you are a god, I don't see why you need to follow the level cap.
Evil DM Mk3 05-03-07, 06:28 PM	Oh look, Epic oozemaster. On a god. How apt.
Return of the Flumph 05-03-07, 06:29 PM	Nice intro speech, Evil DM. Is he also wearing a Guy Fawkes mask?
Evil DM Mk3 05-03-07, 06:30 PM	NO!:D
Camu 05-03-07, 06:45 PM	I'm still a little confused of how much every action cost in action points? Like your last turn Evil DM, how much AP would that have cost?
Return of the Flumph 05-03-07, 06:49 PM	Creating a new species like Evil DM just did costs 2 AP. Look at the first page of the in-character thread; there's an index of how many points each type of action costs.
Evil DM Mk3 05-03-07, 06:50 PM	1 point cost teach populous, nourish populous, nourish land, mold land • 2 point cost create populous, create land, guide populous, create portal • 3 point cost Attack another god, Begat god (requires another god or mortal of opposite sex), Create Avatar (to walk the planet), Create Plane (maybe as home or resource center), Evolve Physically (extra hands means extra action point), Gain Extra domain slot, Create concept (like positivity- but it would be good if it related to a domain. More than one concept can be related to any single domain) • 4 point cost Create god And here it is again. Be creative!
Camu 05-03-07, 06:51 PM	and the herald, does that cost anything, or does only the creation of avatars cost AP?
Evil DM Mk3 05-03-07, 06:52 PM	Heralds are just a role playing thing. They are essentially fluff. SO yes they are free. Heralds are for direct god->mortal interation.
Evil DM Mk3 05-03-07, 06:55 PM	Oh and as an important side note, seeing as I use them as walking disease farms, only VERY STUPID clerics of Blight would ever not take pestilance, even when I get 3+ domains.
Return of the Flumph 05-03-07, 07:16 PM	Evil celestials now? This world really is going insane. I'm not especially worried for my own races (seeing as Solanthi aren't known for being good swimmers) but still, I find the notion odd.
d24478667 05-03-07, 08:00 PM	Hey, Evil Dm, there is also: 3AP: Gain divine rank.
Evil DM Mk3 05-03-07, 08:02 PM	My willo teh wisp looks like a floating ball of boiling puss.
d24478667 05-03-07, 08:11 PM	I liked Kur-ah's more...:yuck:
riverrock 05-03-07, 08:19 PM	Do elves exist? Do aquatic elves count as "phb" race, since they are +0 la version of phb race?
Evil DM Mk3 05-03-07, 08:23 PM	I don't know, but we now have a problem. If the elves where created aquatic elves and drow are now a totaly differant species to regular elves. No connection at all.
riverrock 05-03-07, 08:26 PM	I don't think that would be a problem, we can just say drow are a different species. Since they dwelled on Anacrix, I'd guess they would be outsiders anyway. Also, we are holding out on phb races until the start of year 2, right? I think that this would logically include subtypes with +0 la, unless the creator specifies that they are not actually part of the phb race. (different subtype, for example)
Evil DM Mk3 05-03-07, 08:28 PM	Yes I ahve poitned that out intill I am like this guy = :bigeyes: (blue in the face) Oh and how does Morintu even know about the plane of mirrors? The god of knowladge's most closely guarded secret?
riverrock 05-03-07, 08:30 PM	K. I guess that elves remain uncreated then.
Evil DM Mk3 05-03-07, 08:31 PM	And to get the responce to the upcomming complaints in before they start. ONE WEEK. THAT IS ALL THE TIME YOU HAVE TO WAIT GUYS! ONE WEEK.
Evil DM Mk3 05-03-07, 08:34 PM	Actually could someone give me a guide as to what they feel the Nerra and thier clones can/can't be considered to do for RP purposes? And how secret can I keep what I do?
Delfedd 05-03-07, 08:41 PM	Well. When you open a portal into another deities realm at the focal point when the god and ALL his minions are RIGHT there, I would PROBABLY figure it out. Yeah. I did specify it was Right outside my fortress.
Evil DM Mk3 05-03-07, 08:45 PM	It is reason to become suspicious of mirrors, fine, but why assossiate Ysthgoths, even phoney ones, with ME? And is a falling stone proof of the theory of relativity? Not really, nor is a single use of the mirror jump ability proof enough to unravel my whole spy network! Also I stated this was occuring as soon as you where no longer presnet. Good gods I allready toned it down from a replacment clone in your personal court, which would have been a logical move on my part.
Delfedd 05-03-07, 08:47 PM	ah that's true. I'll change that.
Evil DM Mk3 05-03-07, 08:51 PM	Ta. Oh and Morintu, Entropy, Now please! And the rest. Please!
Delfedd 05-03-07, 08:59 PM	I'm confused now.
Evil DM Mk3 05-03-07, 09:00 PM	Did you or did you not agree to trap a certain far realms entity? Known as Entropy?
Delfedd 05-03-07, 09:07 PM	I wasn't aware that she was free. Yes. She.
Evil DM Mk3 05-03-07, 09:10 PM	IT is on its way. They are all on their way. Read carefuly IT non-reality force. Not a woman.
Return of the Flumph 05-03-07, 09:20 PM	Aquatic Elves were LA+1 last that I checked. Evil DM: You've already had a big enough impact on the role playing by pushing us all into going along with your whole Far Realms thing. I think leaving the gender and details of the invaders up to us would be mightily kind of you. Delfedd: Why did Morintu just create a gaping portal of vice and sin? That seems really out of character for him. Sure, he's evil, but its always been the "iron hand of dictatoship" evil, not the "garden of earthly delights" evil.
d24478667 05-03-07, 09:21 PM	Because it helps him spread the iron grip. When they end up with those LE acts, if no one stops them, they are going to Morintu permenently, I would think. The way I personally see each person's gender, as I did with the color: Old: Death, Entropy, Fear, Famine, Paranoia and Pestilance Sorted: Male:Famine, Pestilence, Fear, and Death, the insurance. Female:Entropy, Paranoia, and War.
Evil DM Mk3 05-03-07, 09:24 PM	I just think assinging a force of unreality a gender is wierd. Also if i pushed, I am sorry. I have been working at this over several weeks to get abbertions into the game. This is not some random act. It was achived with 100% pure PRing. I am also trying to keep in mind that the primary point of this exersise is to make a champain setting. Any ideas on a name yet? Anyone?
Return of the Flumph 05-03-07, 09:30 PM	I suggest that we name the setting "Grave Town" in honor of its founder.
Evil DM Mk3 05-03-07, 09:36 PM	Fits the feel too! By the way what is up with these damned mushroom people? Morintu cites one of them as a potentional genocide in the same month as I discuss on of their leading schollars theories on the nature of time... THEY ARE EVERYWHERE! LOL
Delfedd 05-03-07, 09:44 PM	My idea on the entropy thing is that that they reach out for their opposite and grab the opposite. And it is entropy. Random. And stuff. For me, it's just really funny to think that Mushroom people commit genocide. I created the portal to the vice and sin to... yes, spread lawful evilness.
Anuvrix 05-03-07, 09:52 PM	You know, i think you all have ADD.... Riverrock made a fuss about me creating Avnir, and then dropped it. It's because he did that in the first place that i posted him in the IC thread. Wow....:allalone:
Delfedd 05-03-07, 09:57 PM	No... No. See. We assumed you weren't making Avnir anymore. Give us a good reason that the god of Death, when eaten, becomes a god of healing, and we'll give you a god. Flumph... That was intensely freaky. I liked it.
Anuvrix 05-03-07, 09:59 PM	I said i would change the domains if you people could maybe give some ideas.
Delfedd 05-03-07, 10:00 PM	The god of being eaten? Hey, we need some obscure things! :D What about a god of minerals? crystal... underground... drow... random words...
riverrock 05-03-07, 10:10 PM	According to Stormwrack and the Monster Manual, aquatic elves are +0 la. Even if they weren't, it wouldn't change the fact they were a clear subspecies of a phb race. (drow are outsider-y, at this point.) And there are none of those until year 2. Which is next month. Anuvrik: Approval of new deities is my jurisdiction. You need to get over it. I already said "Watery Death" as a possibility. I haven't posted recently about it because other issues came up.
Return of the Flumph 05-03-07, 10:20 PM	Oops. You're right; aquatic elves ARE LA+0. I'll take that back.
riverrock 05-03-07, 10:22 PM	No problem. You can create them next turn anyway.
Return of the Flumph 05-03-07, 10:32 PM	On the topic of race creation, I wanted Glykllivar's battle with the anxiety beast to create two new aberration races (what's the point of the Far Realms without invading aberration master races, after all?). Thing is, I'll only have enough AP for one "create populace." Can I make two aberration types with one action, since they both spring into existence from the same (accidental) source?
riverrock 05-03-07, 10:33 PM	People have done that before, so I don't think it should be a problem. (Also-finally abberations! Yes! Everyone knows that a campaign setting is not complete without abberations!)
Delfedd 05-03-07, 10:37 PM	I'd say yes. I mean, you're not going to be controlling them, and I like the idea of more adversaries not under the control of any god.
ewancummins 05-03-07, 11:19 PM	Myconid commiting genocide? Missed that, or else I've forgotten it. The fungus folk are strong! Lot's of dead stuff lying around to decompose. Just as the supplies really started to run low, and the surface grew a bit too chilly- the kind gods restored the sun. Thanks, gods!:) The fungus folk will doubtless emerge from the underdark again, to decompose the next gazillion corpses left over from other peoples' wars. Thanks again, gods!;) Myconid scholars are using a variant of the Vaati script. They learned it from the ruins they explored. They have a high regard for the old wind dukes.
Delfedd 05-03-07, 11:22 PM	naw, just hypothetical. And thank you very much. The Wind Dukes live on. Although it's weird for Underground people to use the script of the wind.
Return of the Flumph 05-03-07, 11:26 PM	Well, that made things easier...if less dramatic. I was planning on a longer, mano a mano duel with the parasite, but I suppose that is what Morintu would have done.
ewancummins 05-04-07, 12:12 AM	The wind dukes do live on, in the hidden vale. The wind duke ruins were the first exposure the myconids had to a civilized, literate race. It's natural for them to use the vaati letters, in light of that early exposure. Most knowledge is passed on through periodic group conferences, but books are also made and distributed- particularly as a means of sharing information between far flung colonies and of preserving obscure points of lore that aren't usually discussed in group sessions. The myconids are only now developing epic poetry, drama, etc. Much of it will focus on their heroic age[ the Long Night].Myconid bards don't sing, but perform a weird sort of pantomime dance. This is accompanied by the release of a type of halluicnogenic spores, the effects of which on non myconid audiences are hard to predict...
Evil DM Mk3 05-04-07, 05:43 AM	People have done that before, so I don't think it should be a problem. (Also-finally abberations! Yes! Everyone knows that a campaign setting is not complete without abberations!) Why do you think I did this :D. I said i would change the domains if you people could maybe give some ideas. Well I allready have You know, i think you all have ADD.... Riverrock made a fuss about me creating Avnir, and then dropped it. It's because he did that in the first place that i posted him in the IC thread. Wow....:allalone: I can understand how you feel. I also understand how riverrock feels and cna understand his, no offence, slight touchyness in this area. Play by the rules is all he wants. Flumph... That was intensely freaky. I liked it. Indeed BRAVO. So we have: War offest from time in a place where no violance can happen. Entropy trapped in a bubble o'nothin. Paranoia spiked. Famine trapped in a prison the trapper had just left. Fear being rather too fondly welcomed as an "honoured guest" in teh real mof nightmares. Those cultist are goint to have a lot of work to do!
d24478667 05-04-07, 06:17 AM	Actually, Famine got shattered, and most of him is back where he came from. 3 parts are glaciers though. And the pieces that are back where he came from are still frozen. Edit: Yeah, first those cultists are gonna have to move glaciers, then summon the rest of the prison, then free him.
Delfedd 05-04-07, 06:22 AM	These cultists are sounding less and less like first level commoners led by a litch or whatnot and more like adventurers. Hm. That WOULD be an interesting campaign. To defeat a great evil, you must unlock forces the gods feared. It works, but then you have to put them back while dealing with the wrath of the gods.
d24478667 05-04-07, 06:42 AM	Yeah it would; also makes the name fit more.
Return of the Flumph 05-04-07, 08:50 AM	Okay guys, seriously; 5 aberration lords have attacked so far, and only 2 of them have created aberrant species. If someone doesn't create mind flayers by the end of the month, I'm putting an axe through my computer.
Camu 05-04-07, 09:02 AM	I was maybe thinking of letting my god create a few abberations, like gibbering mothers and kythons (from BoVD) and maybe fiend worms and chuuls. Since they both stand for hunger in my opinion Note i will create oozes (duh) and there demonic variant the alkalith aswell Maybe mind flayers could be created aswell, they are (power) hungry :) (and my god looks like an neothelid, and those are big overgrown mind flayer larva anyway) just a thought (although i probably can't create them all with just one create populous since i only 2AP left, unless I would place them all in a general creature type like 'Hungers', or something with a cooler name but anyway)
Return of the Flumph 05-04-07, 09:19 AM	The mind flayer/hunger connection seems a bit vague to me. Chuuls and kythons fit your portfolio, though, and they aren't weird enough to warrant a Far-Realms origin.
Camu 05-04-07, 09:27 AM	will do, the mind flayer stays out note that there are many types of illithidae in lords of madness there are also the tsochar, grell and neogi to be created.
Return of the Flumph 05-04-07, 09:42 AM	will do, the mind flayer stays out note that there are many types of illithidae in lords of madness there are also the tsochar, grell and neogi to be created. Actually, the grell fit your portfolio perfectly. It would be nice if you could fit a bit of farrealmsiness into their creation, but yeah, I could totally see your god making those.
Anuvrix 05-04-07, 09:52 AM	hows about a god of psionics or something like that, he creates the psion strain in the populace, and also makes all of the Psionic races. if this Psionic god would be allowed i would gladly take it.
Camu 05-04-07, 09:57 AM	I could place them in my species type of hungers so far i have planned: oozes,slimes, jelly's... gibbering mouther alkaliths chuuls kythons and then maybe: fiendworm (from MM2) grell ... for the psionic races being created by a psion god, then that would mean only a magic god could create races that use magic? just remembered there are also avolakia (in MM2), those undead eating worm things
Camu 05-04-07, 10:11 AM	found some more abberations: carrion crawlers, detrachans & cloakers
Anuvrix 05-04-07, 10:24 AM	wow, the novacaine that dentists use suck. got a filling. they numbed my entire lower left side of face. keep biting my tongue....
Camu 05-04-07, 10:26 AM	and let there be dentists, the foulest and most evil of aberations ;)
Anuvrix 05-04-07, 10:29 AM	:D btw, i came up with a domain for the Psionics diety, since there is no direct domain associated with psionics, hows about mind?
d24478667 05-04-07, 11:45 AM	Ooo.. I got ~nepthis to draw frostbite. Link in my sig.
Camu 05-04-07, 12:00 PM	looks cool
riverrock 05-04-07, 01:17 PM	Anuvrix-ok, you get mind domain. Lesser deity. Right up the description and pm it to me.
d24478667 05-04-07, 02:41 PM	Well, actually, if you just stay thre for a bit, he'll be fine; see, he just needed a companion. So, really, he is fine after the spells had no effect, except keeping her there long enough for him to be fine.
ewancummins 05-04-07, 02:59 PM	Artheyen just trapped Death. It isn't a god or an abomination. It's more like a primal manifestation of negative planar energy, bent on destroying all life. The thing is basically a god level WMD. Probably not something anyone can really control. And yes, it can kill gods.
ewancummins 05-04-07, 03:20 PM	The minor deaths are drawn from a reference to such critters in the 1E DMG, under the description of the Deck of Many Things. The Death card summoned one. Nasty guys. Not sure if anyone has done a 3E conversion.
Return of the Flumph 05-04-07, 03:25 PM	They are in Monsters of Ravenloft (not the actual title, but its the Ravenloft monster supplement), I'm pretty sure. Also, I make a motion to name Morintu's suburb "Sin City."
d24478667 05-04-07, 05:54 PM	Motion seconded. Camu, is said entity Famine?
d24478667 05-04-07, 07:16 PM	-delete-
Evil DM Mk3 05-04-07, 08:29 PM	No, it is Blight. I think.
d24478667 05-04-07, 08:51 PM	Well, Camu's god (can't recall the name) is related to them both; he is the godly part of Famine, and he is related to Blight by being a god organ.
Return of the Flumph 05-04-07, 09:24 PM	What part of that did the Myconids know to disbelieve? Just wondering.
d24478667 05-04-07, 09:42 PM	Until very recently, this war was the big thing; wouldn't you think the Mycoids would know that Pholtone committed that horrendous crime against the Vaati?
Camu 05-05-07, 02:57 AM	Ooulzoth is indeed looking for Blight
Return of the Flumph 05-05-07, 04:01 AM	They mentioned the athachs and Pholtone before they said anything else.
Evil DM Mk3 05-05-07, 05:50 AM	There is one thing I want to make clear now that may not have been clear previously. The names assinged to the six far realsms enteties, and in fact the descriptions and explantions for them all, where lies. Not the malicious kind of "so I can get more powerful" kind of lie but the "if I told you the truth you would either not understand or you would become deranged so here is somthing close enough" kind of lies. War is not WAR, it is an entity whos primary manifetation includes spreading mindless endless bloody violance.
d24478667 05-05-07, 06:03 AM	Yeah, but the you said Glykillvar was pretty much an evil (female dog). And Pholtone was the only one; why would they add in Glykilllvar and Rythe'al.
Camu 05-05-07, 06:19 AM	Is it possible to use one 'create populous' ability to create a large variaty of creatres that are related by a single theme? For example, all kinds of creatures related to hunger?
Delfedd 05-05-07, 08:56 AM	How many creatures? Specifically.
Camu 05-05-07, 09:45 AM	I could place them in one species type: "hungers" so far i have planned: oozes gibbering mouther chuuls kythons (BoVD) grell (lord of madness) alkaliths (fiend folio) i think i'll create this guys seperatly anyway since they are outsiders and all the above are aberations except the oozes all creatures could be related to my gods portfolio i'm also considering ghouls and famine spirits aswell
Delfedd 05-05-07, 10:44 AM	Grells are already created. Kython's are outsiders I believe. I don't see the chuul/hunger connection. Otherise, that's fine. Do you have the hunger domain?
Camu 05-05-07, 11:21 AM	yes, i have the hunger domain, and the slime domain. I'm not talking about the chained devil (kyton), but the kythons from book of vile darkness. Those are aberations. They have an insectlike look and do nothing except eat and multiply Actually, the grell fit your portfolio perfectly. It would be nice if you could fit a bit of farrealmsiness into their creation, but yeah, I could totally see your god making those. me and Return of the Flumph talked about the grell yesterday and there weren't any grell back then. So when were they created and by who?
Delfedd 05-05-07, 11:26 AM	Ah. I knew what you where talking about. I think because they're in the BoVD, I assumed they where outsiders. Yeah, that sounds like a good idea. They should live in an exotic place (Kythons, that is,) and wait until their numbers are high enough, and then sweep the world. Yay world sweeping monstrosities!
Camu 05-05-07, 11:43 AM	yup, that's the plan I think I can bring most of those creatures/races in one ritual, or I just wait until the beginning of the second year.
Return of the Flumph 05-05-07, 12:20 PM	Yeah, but the you said Glykillvar was pretty much an evil (female dog). And Pholtone was the only one; why would they add in Glykilllvar and Rythe'al. Because the psurlons hate Glykllivar. Would the myconids know that that was untrue? If so, then sure, the psurlons have failed.
d24478667 05-05-07, 12:26 PM	Arteheyn's fox reminds me a lot about Animal Farm. "4 legs good! Two legs bad!" Perhaps I unconsciously meta-gamed a little. Perhaps they couldn't tell who the attacker was from the ruins.
Return of the Flumph 05-05-07, 12:31 PM	What the psurloons said was that first the athachs destroyed some of the cities, and then the blotting out of the sun finished them off. I said it in two different posts, so you may have missed it, but that's what they said. They the truth about what happened. The only thing they lied about was whodunnit.
d24478667 05-05-07, 12:47 PM	And the myconids where asking who did it, not how. Honestly, all the psurlons had to sad was Pholtone.
Return of the Flumph 05-05-07, 01:09 PM	They DID say... Maybe we should get a third party to arbitrate this.
d24478667 05-05-07, 02:12 PM	Perhaps Ewancummings, seeing as he created them?
Return of the Flumph 05-05-07, 02:37 PM	Agreed. Ewan!!!!
d24478667 05-05-07, 03:56 PM	Well, if we were going to sort the 7 Vile Forces* as movies, I found Paranoia: The Machinist. That movie is the scariest damn thing I've seen. *What I am calling those beings from the far realms.
Return of the Flumph 05-05-07, 04:01 PM	I suppose I'll have to see that.
d24478667 05-05-07, 04:16 PM	Yeah, I got it late March and got around to watching it today.. to me, it was like Silence of the Lambs or a carwreck, you don't want to know, you're creeped out, and you have to keep watching.
Delfedd 05-05-07, 06:40 PM	I think that the mushroom men where a BIT filled with paranoia. I think they'd ask one question, then that's it.
Return of the Flumph 05-06-07, 01:12 AM	Just to make sure: the abelock hive is on the prime material, right?
Evil DM Mk3 05-06-07, 07:04 AM	Are the Abelock in any book? Oh and if you are doing an entity->film list (and only 6 of them are vile forces, one is just a force) tehn find the most violent film you know of. = WAR.
Delfedd 05-06-07, 07:58 AM	Ok. Here's how the Abeloks work. Abel infested corpse=Spawn of Kyuss. Abelok=20 corpses. Swallow whole creates another spawn of kyuss instead of a skelleton.
Evil DM Mk3 05-06-07, 09:45 AM	To clarify, Blight has gone to see Amon.
Delfedd 05-06-07, 10:25 AM	Why? Because I don't see them as really allies. Are you going to talk with morintu soon?
Evil DM Mk3 05-06-07, 10:56 AM	He is off to see his father. His reasons are convoluted and devious. He may or may not aproach Morintu, although it depends on how he is feeling. Kur-ah is off to see Morintu however.
Delfedd 05-06-07, 10:59 AM	I actually meant Kur-ah, but whatever.
Evil DM Mk3 05-06-07, 11:00 AM	Blight is going to see Amon. Kur-ah is going to see Morintu.
Delfedd 05-06-07, 11:09 AM	Ah. Alright. Cos you said he and you where talking about Blight before. You should have said she. Cos Kur-ah is a she.
Evil DM Mk3 05-06-07, 11:12 AM	Again... This is the fouth and final one.
Camu 05-06-07, 02:47 PM	well oozes and worms now populate the world with there voracious hunger
Return of the Flumph 05-06-07, 02:49 PM	A dillemma, but not a big one. At any rate, BBEG's now have something to fill their covered pit traps with to kill the PCs. Thanks.
Janusunaj 05-06-07, 03:07 PM	Did you just see AMon, or are you in the middle of doing it?
Delfedd 05-06-07, 03:13 PM	What did you mean "the fourth and final thing" Evil DM?
Evil DM Mk3 05-06-07, 03:25 PM	fouth and final shape Kur-ah has. Each is an aspect of the overall nature of thing, one of each of the alignments. His form is dictated by whichever is dominant.
d24478667 05-06-07, 05:39 PM	Which is which?
Return of the Flumph 05-06-07, 05:41 PM	Volcano Sage is lawful, Fire Chick is chaotic, and I'm assuming Metal Crone is good. Have we seen evil mode yet?
Delfedd 05-06-07, 05:53 PM	I'm pretty sure we haven't.
d24478667 05-06-07, 05:54 PM	Also, what was Pholtone doing with Frostbite's messenger *cough*spy*cough* network? Just kidding. Damn censor blocks.
Evil DM Mk3 05-06-07, 06:04 PM	Oh you did, but not for very long. Middle aged man with goatie wreithed in fire. He sliped out at the trial. You got the assignments correct too.
Return of the Flumph 05-06-07, 06:11 PM	Oh you did, but not for very long. Middle aged man with goatie wreithed in fire. He sliped out at the trial. You got the assignments correct too. Ah. I assumed that was just a transitional state between lawful and chaotic. He didn't seem all that bad.
Evil DM Mk3 05-06-07, 06:14 PM	He abandoned his first begotten child and practicaly signed his death warrant...
d24478667 05-06-07, 06:17 PM	And his first child was a real prick. Again, doesn't seem that bad.
Evil DM Mk3 05-06-07, 06:19 PM	Yes but he didn't feel guilty untill he was somone else. Trust me, he is the evil side, remember thought they are all only slightly of that alignemnt, True neutral is still the overriding alignment and they ahve the same overall drives and personality, they jsut are happy to apply differant methods.
d24478667 05-06-07, 06:26 PM	Ah, okay.
Return of the Flumph 05-06-07, 06:29 PM	I don't consider myself evil at all, but you REALLY don't want to know what I'd have done if Rytheal was my son.
Evil DM Mk3 05-06-07, 06:31 PM	Let me clarify. As far as Kur-ah is concerned, deiaty on deiaty violance is the worst thing in the universe as it speeds up the path towards the darker futures he has seen. So this Kur-ah allowed actions that by his phylosophy doom generations as of yet unborn. Because it was easier.
d24478667 05-06-07, 06:43 PM	Interesting philosophy. Oh, and there is still only one Arctic Rose village; an Ice worm could kill it before Frost bite could help. Or not.
Delfedd 05-06-07, 07:01 PM	Hey Camu, just as a note, the only reason I HAVEN'T done anything is that neither of you have approached me. Although i probably would try to cram you back into my chest cavity. :D
Evil DM Mk3 05-06-07, 07:09 PM	Well I went to see my dad, but only to try and stirr things up. To be honest I prefer un-noticed, although Blighters may draw attention to me... Arethyn is going to notice at least.
d24478667 05-06-07, 08:11 PM	Well, Frostbite knows two new gods exist; if he wanted too, he could find you guys. His mespynger network is trackable by him.
Evil DM Mk3 05-06-07, 08:17 PM	Kur-ah knows too. ATM she is busy.
Return of the Flumph 05-07-07, 01:15 AM	Wait...I thought the titans lived in Amon's Paradise, not the Prime Material.
Delfedd 05-07-07, 06:02 AM	The last titan's on the prime. We don't know about the titans in Haven.
Return of the Flumph 05-07-07, 10:07 AM	What do you guys think the Solanthi should do? I think they'd probably be split between those who want to listen to the weird, those who want to fight any and all outsiders, and those (namely, the ones who did not approve of the Shining Ones) who side with the undead.
Evil DM Mk3 05-07-07, 10:11 AM	Well I would expect a certain percentage are going to follow the Wierd and start taking the wild mage PrC...
Anuvrix 05-07-07, 12:18 PM	back from a weekend of hard labor..... i missed a bunch.... heres where i left off: NAME: Mirath Nirik Thought Seer, The Mind Bender. [DR:6] Lesser Diety, Psion HSRH Symbol: A green spark shaped like a circle on a purple backround. Home: Void Alignment: Chaotic Neutral Domains: Mind Portfolio: ???????????????? Worshipers:- Psions, Psychic Monsters Favored Weapon: His Mind Avatar:- A young man, slightly tanned, wearing leather pants and many belts. He has no hair and a green tatoo on his face. ------------------ what would my prtfolio be???
Evil DM Mk3 05-07-07, 12:35 PM	Hang on how did you get to that from necromancy???
ewancummins 05-07-07, 12:39 PM	Is this new god connected with Akhier? I ask because Akhier had psionics, listed psions as followers. Same alignment, too. He's also inactive[ as far as I know]. Or is he coming back at some point?
Evil DM Mk3 05-07-07, 12:43 PM	If you are going to do Psionics can you promise me somthing? PLEASE DO IT IN A WAY THAT MAKES IT WORTH THE EFFORT. In most settings I have seen Psionics it has been either the thirs type of magic and with no flavour or uniquness of it's own or it has been somthing totaly dissassosiated from magic, which whilst distinctive is a nightmare to run, especially if things end up with both Spell and Power resistance, for example.
ewancummins 05-07-07, 01:01 PM	Myconid religion: The myconids acknowledge the existence of all gods, but Arteheyn's clerics are the racial leaders. Of course, to them she appears differently. She is sometimes portrayed as an enormous fungus, with rivers of life giving water flowing from its body. They credit her with the creation of not only their own race, but the underground river system, and food supply. Myconids are usally LN, and rarely venerate any powers of chaos. Only Kersys, Ku-ah, and Morintu have much in the way of active cults[ besides the powerful cult of Arteheyn]. Kersys isn't answering paryers, so his following has declined. Kur-ah's followers tend to be scholars or myconids who have more interaction with other races. Morintu's cult is centered around respect for the ancient race of the wind dukes. They are regarded as eccentrics. Most of them live near the surface.
ewancummins 05-07-07, 01:15 PM	Green lizardfolk gods : The greens worship Arteheyn as the saviour of their race, and creator of their swamp homelands. Her cult is dominant. Morintu is the god of judgement, punishment, and the sky. K'Thymon the Scaled one is respected as a god of dragons, creatures whom the lizardfolk both admire and fear. Other gods are also honored. Most are portrayed in lizardman form, typically as large idols of carved darkwood.
ewancummins 05-07-07, 01:29 PM	Talking animal religion and gods: These creatures do not normaly have any organized religion. Instead, they tell fables involving mostly animal characters. The owls , in particular, enjoy such fables. The gods may come into the stories[ not often, though] and are depicted as having animal forms. Some of the elder owls develop cleric abilities[ granted by Arteheyn].
ewancummins 05-07-07, 01:38 PM	Tritons : Tritons worship a triad of Deities: Arteheyn , Gykllivar , and Morintu. Arteheyn is seen as the mother and creator deity. Her daughter is worshipped as ruler of the oceans. Morintu is a rather distant figure, who is respected as a god of storms and father of Gykllivar. Clerics dominate the social life of Tritons. Indeed, the race tends toward theocratic monarchy. Priest kings descended in line from the first clerics still rule most of the triton people.
Return of the Flumph 05-07-07, 01:51 PM	I like what you're doing, Ewan. In fact, I've been wishing everyone had done it. For that reason, I just created a new place to do it. Could you please repost your blurbs about your races there (http://boards1.wizards.com/showthread.php?t=842893)?
Evil DM Mk3 05-07-07, 06:58 PM	Hey um, Anuvrix, I was intending, as part of Kur-ah easing into the background for a while, to spend Kur-ah's AP on some abberation actions including somthing to introduce Psionics to the races en masse and to give it a uniquness. Seeing as you are angling for god of psionics, do you mind? The upshot is that Psions can become dangerously unstable if untraned and that Psionics will have an abberant taste to it.
Evil DM Mk3 05-07-07, 10:11 PM	Delfedd I apriciate the RPing purposes and all but can'y you just admit defeat and go away? I mena daring is on thing but this has all of the winnablity for you of the Welsh villadge of Rhil invading CHINA! Plus it is keeping me up as I know it will go a long way if I just log out as you have a tendancy to go further than might be considered fair, like when you said "I am taking the head, and now I am back in my own realms where you would be a moron to try and get it back." (Well, that is how it came across anyway.)
Delfedd 05-07-07, 10:16 PM	Wrong again. :D Oh, don't worry about it. You'll see. I think that you're often the one who goes a bit "too far" with things. The word is "godding" I believe. No ordinary centaur would be able to resist a mental assault by a favored of Morintu, a herald, an epic level freaking lich.
Return of the Flumph 05-07-07, 10:17 PM	Speaking of going too far, what exactly is this centaur? He can casually resist a spell from what is probably an epic-level lich? You've both crossed the line a little bit: Delfedd for thinking the Solanthi would even consider joining him, and Evil_DM with his invincible centaur.
Evil DM Mk3 05-07-07, 10:23 PM	Well I had tried to indicate by description very high level cleric, prehaps it didn't come across clearly. He is probably boasting/bluffing a lot but he is also easily smart enought to use Greater Spell Immunity and in any case his Will save is likely to be fenominal. The problem is Delfedd short of having Firefang and Earthscale turn up this is the best I can do when your dudes start to brainwash populations and improson messingers. You yourself keep pointing out that using a gods name lest them see what is going on there so I don't think a high level (possibly epic, dunno, never gave him a level, I can't have perminet creatures like him cos' they are dead by teh next time I want to use them) cleric is unreasonable or unrealistic. If I have crossed the line here it is because of the simpel rules of escialtion. And if I have I am sorry. As I pointed out, he will be dead next time this lich tries anything so it won't happen again.
Return of the Flumph 05-07-07, 10:25 PM	I would have just sent Earthscale and Firefang to make it less abstract.
ewancummins 05-07-07, 10:29 PM	I dunno, I hear those Rhil folk are hardass pterodactyls! They could probably cut quite a swathe through Red China.
Evil DM Mk3 05-07-07, 10:29 PM	Oh his opeing gambit is likely to be mass heal and a quickened mass cure serious wounds. If that does not kill the Lich it will put a serious dent in his hp and ego.
riverrock 05-07-07, 10:30 PM	It does make more sense if he is a high level cleric. But Earthscale and Firefang would have made the most sense. But a high level cleric is ok too. Just a minor question though (please don't be offended.) It does seem like the weirds take an awful lot of interpretative lee-way for beings who aren't supposed to lie. Morintu may be evil, but he has been pretty honest in everything he did. Even when he stole the ley-lines, it was justifiable in his mind. I guess it just seems the one weird is acting a little biased for an oracular truth-teller.
Return of the Flumph 05-07-07, 10:30 PM	Oh good god, can this please not turn into a game of "my herald could beat your herald?" Please?
ewancummins 05-07-07, 10:32 PM	Heck, I don't even have a herald! Those two coatls are my extra ''hands''. The others are just servants.
Evil DM Mk3 05-07-07, 10:32 PM	As pointed out in the discworld books, telling the truth does not mean honesty. Ask any politician. OK then, if you all want them, Herald time it is. Having seen the heal rought blocked this guy has only one option left. Pray for a miracle... Actaully that won't work. My heralds are a pair of regular dragons. By now almost Wyrms. No match for near-godling ulberdraws over there.
Evil DM Mk3 05-07-07, 10:39 PM	Too late for me to be making rational decisions anyway (3:30ish in the morning) I will sleep on it, any advice welcome.
Return of the Flumph 05-07-07, 10:53 PM	ES and FF are probably great wyrms at this point. Not to mention there could be Rilmani involvement...they're none too fond of Icoscol, as I recall. Besides that, while Icoscol is definetely epic, I doubt his buddies are. Some are in the high teens, probably, but not epic.
Delfedd 05-07-07, 10:56 PM	Nope. We designated Dragons to become great wyrms in year 2, Month 5. The leaders of each group, (Icoscol, Remiel, and Zosiel) are epic, and two other liches are also epic. But otherwise, you're right.
riverrock 05-08-07, 12:28 AM	I'd like to take this moment to point out that the harpies were never warned by anyone not to interfere. But nice pun. "Featherbrained." Ha. Ha. I'm not laughing.
Return of the Flumph 05-08-07, 12:32 AM	I wasn't even thinking of the harpies when I said "featherbrained." Funny now that you point it out, though. The psurlons warned Morintu not to interfere any further with the Solanthi. In their morbidly insane worldview, that means that they effectively warned everyone. Doesn't make sense? Look up "aberration."
riverrock 05-08-07, 12:34 AM	Aberration. Noun. The act of deviating, especially from a natural state, type, or established norm.
Return of the Flumph 05-08-07, 12:35 AM	Exactly.
Return of the Flumph 05-08-07, 01:20 AM	Would the nightmares know the specifics? Some probably noticed the figures on the hilltop, but they wouldn't have been close enough to know what they were.
riverrock 05-08-07, 01:24 AM	Probably not. Kyrinian's distraught, and he's not thinking clearly. Even if they had witnessed everything, they probably wouldn't be able to clearly express what had happened.
Return of the Flumph 05-08-07, 02:03 AM	A children's book: How the Psurlon Stole Amsterdam. For all you lovely posters who missed the action, this (http://bard_city.justgotowned.com) should explain what happened fairly well.
Evil DM Mk3 05-08-07, 04:36 AM	OK, seeing as in order to take out his strike team I would need the centaur to be Elmister, Halaster AND the tooth fairy all at once can anyone sujest what I can do? The fact is that his herald CAN beat my heralds, and anyone elses, and that as noted elsewhere the Rilmani no longer take direct action. I have no AP to spend on Kur-ah acting dircetly either! And yet the alternative can't be allowed simply becasue it maked zero sence, unless he is now going to forcably evict the species. (Oh and if he does that and certain people who are currently good freinds with him stay that way some of you need you RPing licances revoked)
Return of the Flumph 05-08-07, 04:46 AM	As it is, the Solanthi are pretty well screwed. They are probably recalling their armies (via messenger spells) from the Ezera alliance to come home and fend off the undead, but it will doubtlessly take them a while to get there. In the meantime, they will fight tooth and nail against the undead, but Icoscol and his buddies-even if they are destroyed in the process-are capable of destroying the entire plateau before they drop. And they are liches, so even if they do drop they will just respawn in a couple of days. As it is, no one extant force on the prime material can seriously challenge Morintu's thugs. Delfedd made a very cool backstory for these guys a long time ago, and after all these centuries they should be epic-level badasses, so he is playing fair. Someone will either have to intervene directly, or create something even stronger...both of which, unfortunately, cost AP. Unless... There is one way around this that I can think of; Amon recently created a demiplane designed to test mortal heros and transform the worthy ones into demigods. I believe situations like this one are exactly what he had in mind when he built that plane. If the centaur and a few of his friends pass the test (details on how good their chances are should be discussed with Amon's player), they will be more than a match for Icoscol.
Delfedd 05-08-07, 06:13 AM	Oooh. *Shudder.* That would be cruel. I suggest that the test have a riddle or puzzle portion in it. That way people can't just say "Oh. Actually, I pass." They actually have to figure it out, instead of just godding. I think that I should set the riddle. Amon can set the rest of the challenge, but I do not believe he has a vested interest in keeping the Centaur out of Godhood. I also think that once the riddle has been set, Evil DM has 24 hours to come up with an answer, or he fails the quest. Also, I think that Even if he does pass the test, he still would be no match for a bunch of epic level spellcasters and fighters. I used to be opposed to the whole demigod test thing, but now I'm liking it a lot. Thanks Amon. Also, the Solanthi issue is about to become moot. I am about to win the propaganda war.
Return of the Flumph 05-08-07, 06:17 AM	Delfedd, NOW you are starting to godmod. "Okay, you can use the resources another player made for public use, but only if I get to make up the challenge so it can be impossible, and even if you make it it doesn't matter because my herald is teh sex lol." Amon made it, so Janasunaj should decide how it is used. If you don't like his decision, we can vote on it.
Delfedd 05-08-07, 06:30 AM	You're probably right. It would be more dramatic for the test. Although you can see what I'm saying, right? If Janasunaj doesn't put some kind of riddle or Something in it, then any creature that we want to pass the test will do so immediately. I'm not willing to have a hundred minor gods running around causing havoc. Anyway, look at it logically. The centaur is what... level 15 as a cleric? That puts him at level 23. The maximum he can be is a level 17 cleric upon ascension. This is why level adjustments aren't that good for spellcasters. Despite divine powers, I think that 25 high to epic level mages, warriors, and clerics could destroy the centaur. What do you think? Implausable?
Evil DM Mk3 05-08-07, 06:30 AM	Hang on there is one Wizard that may answer if the Cleric cast Miricle. The Lord High Sillit. As previously stated the Sillit do little else other than study magic. He would easily be Epic, problem is that it seems (becasue I have kept details vauge on purpose) to be pulling him out of nowhere. DAMN! And I had forgotten when I started this exactly how Ulber the stuff you made for yourself is. Not a critisim or acusation you understand, perfectly logcal and well RPed, just much higher than anyone else could logicaly have acess to. Also I do not have an LA+0 race to call upon do I?
Delfedd 05-08-07, 06:32 AM	Yeah... I don't know who you're talking about. Sorry. And the sheer numbers would probably overwhelm him. It's called the "Adventurers Principle." Any group of four or more beings will instantly defeat any force several level higher than them."
Evil DM Mk3 05-08-07, 06:34 AM	Sillit, the arcane minded Nerra. This guy would be the premier mage amoung a race of unsleeping magicaly minded outsiders. And the adventure's princple stops alplying when multiple save or destroyed spells a round becomes a real possibility. Expect prismantic agony form an archmagus of the mirror people... But as I said, too unanounced. The problem is Delfedd that this guy is, currently, unbeatable by any save deiaties, so he is pretty much a way for you to drain other players AP ATM.
Return of the Flumph 05-08-07, 06:35 AM	I think the centaur is meant to be slightly higher level than that...more like 18 or 19 levels of cleric, for a total level of 26 or 27 (remember, eight of those levels are barely worth anything, so that isn't as ridiculously powerful as it sounds). That's significantly weaker than Icoscol (who I'm assuming is in the high twenties in wizard levels alone)-and Icoscol has friends-but if the centaur AND SOME OTHER HIGH LEVEL CLERICS OF KUR-AH pass the test, the divine ranks would likely make them a match for Morintu's guys. You know, it would really help if we came to a consensus about how high powered this world is in general. How many epic characters are there in an average city? An average continent?
Evil DM Mk3 05-08-07, 06:49 AM	I wans't expecting many. Say eight per SPECIES. At most. Come on then Delfedd. How are you going to win the propaganda war? Cause to be honest I have no idea how.
Ivellius 05-08-07, 10:15 AM	Hey, guys. I'm back. No, seriously, I'm back. I'll start posting again once I catch up on everything that's happened. Although I have realized...I finally have a son! :weep: Though my couple of weeks of absence have probably neglected him. *sigh* Finals have been crazy. Too much writing for me.
Evil DM Mk3 05-08-07, 10:17 AM	Don't forget about pestilance!
Ivellius 05-08-07, 10:35 AM	What kind of aberration did you have in mind from its fragments?
Evil DM Mk3 05-08-07, 10:37 AM	No idea, all up to you!
Evil DM Mk3 05-08-07, 11:00 AM	Please note Blight =/= Pestilance. God of sickness =/= the far realms force of physical degridation.
Anuvrix 05-08-07, 12:16 PM	If you are going to do Psionics can you promise me somthing? PLEASE DO IT IN A WAY THAT MAKES IT WORTH THE EFFORT. In most settings I have seen Psionics it has been either the thirs type of magic and with no flavour or uniquness of it's own or it has been somthing totaly dissassosiated from magic, which whilst distinctive is a nightmare to run, especially if things end up with both Spell and Power resistance, for example. How would I accomplish this? ------------------ Would the psions need to be created with AP? the psion power is a genetic variation within a species. Now the special one of a kind psion races would have to be made, but i could do that. ------------- I was thinking, what if this guy was the first mortal turned god, through the competitions. Some one could make a super bad problem, that is not bad enough for gods to get involved directly, but bad enough for a contest to be held. This guy (using epic psion powers) pwns the contest, becoming a god. then he tackles the problem. (the only problem i have with this idea is that i would like him to start off as a lesser diety, instead of a demigod, could this be worked around?)
Evil DM Mk3 05-08-07, 12:39 PM	Hey um, Anuvrix, I was intending, as part of Kur-ah easing into the background for a while, to spend Kur-ah's AP on some abberation actions including somthing to introduce Psionics to the races en masse and to give it a uniquness. Seeing as you are angling for god of psionics, do you mind? The upshot is that Psions can become dangerously unstable if untraned and that Psionics will have an abberant taste to it. This is what I had intended to do... Aboleths had the scheme to release a virus that caused Psionic power in mortals and then offer the emergant Psions trainign and power in exchange for their loalty (lies of course). It will be resolved in the same batch of actions mind you with the plan backfiring as anotehr groups capable of training the mortals will emerge but there would be a LOT of scope for your deiaty to be formed (about 4 differant openings in fact).
Camu 05-08-07, 02:08 PM	I can always send in a teratomorph into the solanthi city, to change the fight, one of the deadliest of my minions so far :P If only to bring a temporary halt to the escalating fight. They have 28 HD and 32 spell resist, + a lot of weird ability's But maybe that would just be bringing oil to the fire. I post it here, because maybe some will find it impossible for an ooze to mutate into something so powerfull in such a short time.
Janusunaj 05-08-07, 02:40 PM	Then I suggest that the Player have a say. The test can be a test of the Mind, Test of the Heart, and the Test of Combat. They must choose one of the three. Test of Heart would be based on whatever alignment the player has. Test of Combat, would be like *Mortal Kombat*, Test of Mind would be something more along the lines of the riddle you described.
Evil DM Mk3 05-08-07, 02:51 PM	A NG cleric... Um... HEART.
Janusunaj 05-08-07, 02:54 PM	Neutral good cleric, so what would be a good Neutral good test?
Evil DM Mk3 05-08-07, 02:56 PM	No idea.
Janusunaj 05-08-07, 02:57 PM	What about becoming Exalted?
Evil DM Mk3 05-08-07, 03:44 PM	As I have explained it is now impossible to fit them at teh start due to character limits. The links willb e added but this is all I can do.
Anuvrix 05-08-07, 05:00 PM	I have an idea. Evil DM, your aberations create the psions and try to use them, and lie to them. i post in Rp as one of the psions with them. but i discover the lies and am accepted into the test. this is assuming that the abberations are the big bad menace.
Evil DM Mk3 05-08-07, 05:12 PM	Kay, but the alteranative trainers will arive anyway. They tie into another thing.
d24478667 05-08-07, 07:17 PM	Oh yeah, Kirtanous Albacron, are you gonna roll up a new god?
Evil DM Mk3 05-08-07, 07:21 PM	I hope so.
Delfedd 05-08-07, 08:44 PM	Oh, by the way. :D! Thanks Kirtanous. I'm sure you've got some dastardly plan for this, but I'm fairly confident that I can overcome it. Unless it's Really dastardly. Then you become evil too. Anyway, I think that we should discuss the races that we plan on creating next turn so that there's no overlap.
ewancummins 05-08-07, 09:08 PM	As far as races go, I don't think Arteheyn will create any of the PHB races. She's plenty busy making animals, plants, and some monsters. I might make some more outsiders. I'll leave the fey for Kyrinian, I think. Maybe I'll make some giants... We need more giants.
jamvid 05-08-07, 10:14 PM	...:( poor, dead, watery, cold, harpy controlled, sleep sickened, nightmare-corrupted, demon infested six AP bard city (it was more like venice than amsterdam) for mer-folk (and other aquatic people). Although I am sad, I am also reminded of the song: american pie (the day the music died). what I was doing with the wisps was making their MM selfs (along with their status as the messengers of gods), so that a level 6 party can kill something without envoking deific wrath, no matter how humerous it would be to see the first players of this campaign world being massacred by a god after a trek through a swamp. By the way, d24478###, your obvious and clear hints have wondeing, what are you doing with these wisps that you can t track and follow throughout plane? :) advice to EvilDM about conflict: Cheat! (but don't let Delfedd know!) :dancin:
d24478667 05-08-07, 10:21 PM	Well, the thing is that now Pholtone has made Frostbite mad; he made them, and said very specifically they are messengers. Then you tear one to shreds for level 6 fodder. Honestly, if he had wanted fodder, he would have made it. He's probably going to reassemble that one and make sure you don't get another; he is trying to build multiple bridges, and destroyed messengers just don't do that. Though with the current pool it doesn't matter if one dies; also, at the end of the third year, all the hundreds of unused ones will be released. Speaking of bridges, if there is a war between TyDyw and Enfermia, Frostbite will probably (emotionally/mentally) share the same fate as Pholtone's ex-wisp. Oh, I almost forgot the reason I was going to post in the first place; Frostbite probably won't make any PHB races.
ewancummins 05-09-07, 12:16 AM	I want to take an amethyst dragon as my herald. I figure I should be able to get one of the oldest of them to accept. I was one of the creators and teachers of the dragons, after all. The alignment is a perfect match. If he's a wyrm level[or whatever the really old ones are now] then I was actually one of the gods that raised him! Mommy!!!;) :) Just want to know what you guys think. I won't do it if you guys think it's cheap.
Ivellius 05-09-07, 12:57 AM	Yeah, dragons are pretty much free. Although you could check with K'thymon; he was around a couple of weeks ago when I was last. Does this binding cost a certain number of AP and if so, how much?
ewancummins 05-09-07, 01:06 AM	Unsure if it costs AP. I think not. I'll check with K'thymon. He is the dragon god, so it makes sense for him to approve it. Arteheyn hasn't had much chance to chat with him, but we'll proabably be on good terms. I was integral in creating him [ indirectly] and his followers[ dragons, green lizardfolk ].
Return of the Flumph 05-09-07, 01:12 AM	3 AP for Evolve Form is what we agreed on for trapping the Farspawn. You also Created Populace there, if I'm not mistaken. Kakavindus has spent 5 points and gained 1 from absorbing Pestilence's power (typical Evolve Form mechanic with interesting fluff) for a net expenditure of 4.
ewancummins 05-09-07, 01:14 AM	Me?
ewancummins 05-09-07, 01:17 AM	Ahhhh... comprehension dawns. I misunderstood you, Return of Flumph. Thought you meant me. Arteheyn didn't battle an abberation or realmspawn. Death was something else entirely. If I had spent the points to evolve form, would that have given me a death link and 1ap added per turn? I didn't realize that was an option. Of course, since he wasn't a realmspawn... I dunno.
Return of the Flumph 05-09-07, 01:19 AM	That's what Evil_DM told me. If you want to do it differently, I'm sure that's fine as well;p you don't have to have spent any AP, but you don't get the expanded AP base for absorbing Death's energies either. Sounds fair. At any rate, my post was adressed toward Ivellius.
ewancummins 05-09-07, 01:34 AM	Well, now that I know how it works, does anyone object to me spending my last two AP to retcon the death entrapment to include a link? I just didn't realize I could do that with Death. evolve form 3 AP create pop. minor deaths 2AP = 5 AP + 1 AP BONUS FROM EVOLVE FORM = total expenditure of 4AP, out of 6 Ap left at that point[ had the other 6 I used left over from last month, when I spent zero]. Use last 2AP to create gold gorgers! Anyone object to this?
Evil DM Mk3 05-09-07, 07:24 AM	I had intended for Kur-ah to create/discover humans. It is not an easy or simple thing to give humans a unique feel, but I can do it. Oh and I know we have devils, do we have deamons yet?
Return of the Flumph 05-09-07, 08:12 AM	Yes. Kakavindus made them a long time ago.
Camu 05-09-07, 08:21 AM	didn't he make yugoloths?
ewancummins 05-09-07, 08:51 AM	Yugoloth= daemon.
Camu 05-09-07, 08:58 AM	don't you have 3 types? devils = lawful evil yugoloths = neutral evil demons = chaotic evil of course in this campain things could be different
Ronix 05-09-07, 09:05 AM	sorry i havent posted in a while, iv bean busy. you all didnt kill me did ya?
Return of the Flumph 05-09-07, 09:06 AM	Daemon and yugoloth are synonyms. Demon is different from daemon. I know, its confusing. That's why most people prefer to say "yugoloth." Anyway, at this point Morintu commands the devils, Kakavindus owns the daemons/yugoloths, and Kyrinian sort of commands a small amount of almost loyalty from the demons. All three of the fiend races are in.
Camu 05-09-07, 09:10 AM	Ah ok, didn't know that, only knew them by the yugoloth name.
Ronix 05-09-07, 09:14 AM	by any chance does any one know how long its bean since i last posted? i dont know how many points i have.........
Camu 05-09-07, 09:28 AM	but who made the demons then?
Kirtanus_Albacron 05-09-07, 10:01 AM	Just to let you all know, I plan on making elves with my new diety.
Evil DM Mk3 05-09-07, 10:26 AM	What Kirian made amounts to SOME of the demons, about four or five types last I checked, hardly the whole CE chabang across all the books. What if someone else where to make all demons? I know there would be overlap but who said Demons had to be unique, they are utterly random arent they? Suerly a duplicate instance could happen. And yes it was the CE outsider I ment.
Anuvrix 05-09-07, 12:12 PM	I have an idea. Evil DM, your aberations create the psions and try to use them, and lie to them. i post in Rp as one of the psions with them. but i discover the lies and am accepted into the test. this is assuming that the abberations are the big bad menace. Riverrock approved my diety, are we going to do this? If so, then i will post as a mortal for now.
Evil DM Mk3 05-09-07, 12:14 PM	Oh ye, do that. But the virus isn't about yet so mass psionics isn't about yet... Unless you are an early test subject...
Anuvrix 05-09-07, 12:17 PM	would make sense, with me starting as an epic lvl psion...
Anuvrix 05-09-07, 12:18 PM	so ill post this turn as a Psion Trainer. the first training the rest.
Evil DM Mk3 05-09-07, 12:23 PM	ATM the only Psions are likely to be in Aboleth labs though. The "Create concept:Psionics fo rthe masses" is one of three actions next turn. The idea is that victims of the virus will becoem so paniked by the surging powers that they will willignly give themsleves over to the Aboleths.
Return of the Flumph 05-09-07, 02:49 PM	I wonder if Morintu is going to have to flip all the switches on the sonic oscillator and turn up the reactor power input three more points. A :cookie: for anyone who knows what I'm alluding to.
Evil DM Mk3 05-09-07, 02:54 PM	Well it sounds liek genric tecknobabble but it could be the most recent Doctor Who... If it is then Morintu DON'T!
Delfedd 05-09-07, 02:55 PM	Rocky horror! :D Why not? Is there something about Dr. Who that I should know?
Return of the Flumph 05-09-07, 02:59 PM	Rocky horror! :D Why not? Is there something about Dr. Who that I should know? :cookie:
Evil DM Mk3 05-09-07, 03:00 PM	No it just sounded similar to a thign in the most recent episode where an experiment into imortality turns the professor into a life draining scorpion mutant...
Delfedd 05-09-07, 03:02 PM	*Devours cookie like he devoured Avnuk* Hm... experiments into immortallity... that might be a good idea. Oh yeah, I forgot. I'm a god.
Anuvrix 05-09-07, 04:08 PM	Avnuk tasted better.:ayyyy!:
d24478667 05-09-07, 04:52 PM	Hey Riverrock, is there any chance of Frostbite finding a suntree seed? He is looking for one.
riverrock 05-09-07, 04:58 PM	Theoretically. But they are all extinguished, so even if he finds one it will no longer give off light.
d24478667 05-09-07, 05:01 PM	And if he asks Kyrnian if he could reignite it, for artful purposes only? Or could Frostbite himself reignite it? I would prefer it that way; and if so, would it take AP?
riverrock 05-09-07, 05:18 PM	I don't see why not. I wouldn't think reigniting one would cost any ap. Reigniting all of them probably would though.
Ivellius 05-09-07, 05:20 PM	Do we have an updated map?
Kirtanus_Albacron 05-09-07, 05:21 PM	There is a sun-tree in Kur-ah's mountain, that being the sapling that Ryth'ela brought for his defense, no one else has done anything with it yet.
Evil DM Mk3 05-09-07, 05:25 PM	And it is in Kur-ah mountain. I highly dobut the sole momento of his son is going ANYWHERE.
ewancummins 05-09-07, 07:52 PM	Okay, I'm going to fix my post about battling Death to include evolve form. No one seems to object. Oh, what about demodands? Hordlings? There are other fiednish races in the books.
Evil DM Mk3 05-09-07, 07:55 PM	So where are we on demons?
d24478667 05-09-07, 08:06 PM	Kyrnian has some demons, and those are all there is.
Evil DM Mk3 05-09-07, 08:08 PM	So create populous: Deamons is open, cool...
ewancummins 05-09-07, 08:30 PM	I'm plan on having Arteheyn make guardian DAEMONS, starting next month. They are TN in alignment. I won't be making any DEMONS, however. Not now, not ever.;)
Evil DM Mk3 05-09-07, 08:31 PM	I was checking for Blight's sake...
ewancummins 05-09-07, 08:39 PM	' Blight's making some demons , eh? Should be cool.
Evil DM Mk3 05-09-07, 08:41 PM	Well... Wait and see, it ain't so clear cut...
ewancummins 05-09-07, 08:45 PM	Second year starts soon! When do we enter month 1 of year 2? I think several gods till haven't acted this month, yes?
Delfedd 05-10-07, 05:58 AM	Evil DM... creating Demons is just not nice... It's like If I suddenly decided I wanted to create Psionics, ruining your long laid plans. I'm asking this for riverrock. Please don't do that.
Evil DM Mk3 05-10-07, 06:48 AM	This is partialy why I asked more than once about them. Riverrock has not said he wants to make them and I would not do it if he said he did. In any case I am not exactly asking for me. Hmm, what books can I find Oni in then?
Destrieth 05-10-07, 10:14 AM	Yeah, I'm going to second what Delfedd has said. Riverrock has been setting up for a long time and converting his creations slowly in increments. Don't just start making demon and demon derivatives.
Evil DM Mk3 05-10-07, 10:17 AM	That is why I asked!!! Are there any groups of evil outsiders going?
Destrieth 05-10-07, 10:18 AM	I'm saying you kinda missed the boat is all. Maybe you might want to try something else?
Return of the Flumph 05-10-07, 10:20 AM	Demodands.
Evil DM Mk3 05-10-07, 10:24 AM	Blight wasn't around then. Yes Deamonads are perfect, particulary the way teh get REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEELLY fat. Please read this Camu. Hey they all have slime abilites too! RotF you rock!
Return of the Flumph 05-10-07, 12:28 PM	RotF you rock! Dammit...how do you sig stuff?
Evil DM Mk3 05-10-07, 12:30 PM	There is a tab under the bar that tells you where you are on the forum labled My Account. The Sig option (and avatars BTW) are on that.
Return of the Flumph 05-10-07, 12:37 PM	Thanks.
d24478667 05-10-07, 03:01 PM	There are also dragonspawn; I think that would be cool, Dragonspawn of Blight; and also, he could corrupt good dragons for gold, silver, etc. dragonspawn. Oh, also, who thinks they know what Frostbite made? And what do you think it is?
Delfedd 05-10-07, 03:10 PM	You know what you guys? Whatever. Evil DM doesn't control us. It's thursday. I wake up on thursday morning expecting some posts. I came home expecting some posts. I don't want to come back from the play with no posts to respond to. Begin year 2!
Evil DM Mk3 05-10-07, 03:11 PM	The time is the same every damned week. 50mins is all that was left. Geeze... Can you please not do that again.
d24478667 05-10-07, 03:14 PM	As protest, I am going to wait the 45 minutes that are left.
Evil DM Mk3 05-10-07, 03:20 PM	Don't bother.
Delfedd 05-10-07, 04:09 PM	Naw. I usually wake up and there are like 10+ posts.
Evil DM Mk3 05-10-07, 04:19 PM	Well the time didn't change. And could Amon at least spend some AP on undoing the centreal idea of my new plane please?
d24478667 05-10-07, 04:25 PM	All he did is make it so the angel didn't suffer; he specified the body still worked, there was just no soul in it. Though still the blood and the body still worked. All the brain functions were still there, and the act of incredible evil done.
Evil DM Mk3 05-10-07, 04:55 PM	The suffering was going to be kinda integral... Ah well this is good enough.
Camu 05-10-07, 07:02 PM	I'll post the Demodand here, to explain: Although created by Ooulzoth, the demodand serve both him and his brother Blight. The ones following Blight tend to be more gauntlike than they appear in the book. First stage is the Larva form. these are created from the souls that are drawn into the nameless plane, or from other slain Demodands. After the creation of the Demodand, the larva don't emerge out of there spawning chambers until they are fullgrown Demodands. Namely Farastu Second stage: Farastu These are pretty much like the ones in the Fiend Folio. Third stage: Kelubar Again like the ones from the Fiend Folio. Fourth stage: Alkaliths These are like the ones in the Fiend Folio, but they arn't demons anymore, so change the tanari traits with the demodand traits. This forms only seves Ooulzoth. Fifth stage: Shator Again like the ones from the Fiend Folio. Sixth stage: Klurichir Also like fiend folio, but again change tanari with demodand traits. These serve as commanders and generals. Seventh stage:......
Evil DM Mk3 05-10-07, 07:06 PM	WIERD UNIQUE FREAKS!!!!! Right?
ewancummins 05-10-07, 07:23 PM	Demodands rock! :D
d24478667 05-10-07, 10:02 PM	Frostbite has community in his portfolio; does he have the matching domain, which I have done stuff for? Anyone expect that, except for those who Frostbite sought the blessings of?
Delfedd 05-10-07, 10:51 PM	Next time on Deity hills 90210 Glykllvar has rejected Frostbite. Is it because he's a dragon? It this blatant speciesism? But Glykllvar still has feelings for the frost god. How Will her father, Morintu, react to this news? Find out, Next time on Deity hills 90210
Return of the Flumph 05-10-07, 10:54 PM	Next time on Deity hills 90210 Glykllvar has rejected Frostbite. Is it because he's a dragon? It this blatant speciesism? But Glykllvar still has feelings for the frost god. How Will her father, Morintu, react to this news? Find out, Next time on Deity hills 90210 :D You know, I really thought he was making me one of those bows he likes to give out.
riverrock 05-10-07, 11:36 PM	Not me. These are the descriptions of the first two artifacts. Thunderblade Thunderblade is a bastard sword of immense power. When it is drawn, thunder crackles in the far off distance. Forged into it's core is the very essence of a storm, the crackling lightning and stormy thunder. The hilt of the sword is three see serpents intertwining. Bastard Sword +5 Shocking Burst sword. Call lightning 3/day, Shatter 3/day Control Weather 3/day cl 20 Two pieces Call lightning 4/day, shatter 4/day, control weather 4/day. Crown of stars: +2 int, wis, & cha. Fly 6/day, maximized magic missile 4/day. Two pieces +3 Int, wis, & cha. Overland flight 4/day, Fly 8/day, Maximized magic misile 5/day
Delfedd 05-11-07, 06:04 AM	Aw. The kobolds can use the artifacts.... For... uh... good. :D Come on!
d24478667 05-11-07, 06:06 AM	If I was making the bow, then I would have spent the ap for the relic/artifact. And remember, Frostbite isn't all dragon anymore. And I know how Morintu will react.
Return of the Flumph 05-11-07, 06:09 AM	Same way he reacts to everything, probably.
Delfedd 05-11-07, 06:13 AM	Either eat you or take it from you? Pfft. Lies. Anywho, I already have a bow.
d24478667 05-11-07, 06:40 AM	No.. I know how he will react because he is one of the people, Frostbite sought, and gained, the blessing of. By the react part, I was referring to Deity Hills 90210.
Camu 05-11-07, 10:44 AM	ok, demodands are now entering the material plane, beware!
Anuvrix 05-11-07, 12:05 PM	Evil DM, have the Abberations even begun making the spionic trait yet?, if so, i missed it.
Return of the Flumph 05-11-07, 01:55 PM	Daggoth!!!! Eldest of the Cerebrates, superior of Szazz, creator of the Hunter Killers, and second only to the Overmind. I love all the little literature/game tributes we're working in.
Camu 05-11-07, 01:57 PM	First i wasn't to sure, but for a paragon kython slaughterking, i thought i could do the tribute ;)
Return of the Flumph 05-11-07, 01:58 PM	First i wasn't to sure, but for a paragon kython slaughterking, i thought i could do the tribute ;) Indeed; among the few creatures worthy of the name. On a more serious note, though, how many AP have you and blight spent in the last two months?
Camu 05-11-07, 02:03 PM	i'm intermediate deity, so to start with 4 ap first month: -spend 3ap to evolve once, from that i gain one extra ap -i spend 2ap to create the 'ooze & worm' populous. second month, i have 5 ap now -2ap to create demodand -2ap to create 'kython & brood keeper' this is one race, they are both linked by a hive mind, making them one race (just noticed that i forgot to change the brood keeper in an aberation too) 1ap left If you think that last thing is a bit over it, let me know, i will modify as needed.
Return of the Flumph 05-11-07, 02:18 PM	No, its fine. Its just that you and Bane have been extremely prolific in a short period of time, and so I was taken aback. Damn...I can't decide if Team LE or Team CE is better. You guys are rapidly catching up.
Camu 05-11-07, 02:21 PM	we are busy little workers :D
Evil DM Mk3 05-11-07, 02:40 PM	Yes, yes they have, they are offering Psions their continued sanity in exchange for slave fodder as loyalty as we speak. Blight's AP:2 create hags. 1 Teach Blighters. 1 left over. 3AP Create the nameless realm 2AP create dopelgangers.
jamvid 05-11-07, 02:53 PM	to d###(Whatever that long string of numbers in your name is)####: I wasn't destroying my wisp, I still have it, I just sent the pieces down to th planet.
d24478667 05-11-07, 03:14 PM	Yeah; and Frostbite can still contact them. Basically you added to his spy network, and he thanked you, with the lesser wisps. He calls them Foxflames. Hey, RotF; Do you think that eventually Frostbite and Glykllivar will... get together?
Return of the Flumph 05-12-07, 02:33 AM	Adamantine? I was sure it was going to be mithril. Nice twist.
Camu 05-12-07, 05:45 AM	yay Mind Flayers
Camu 05-12-07, 07:12 AM	so any of your mortal races interested to hire a few Farastu demodand 'bounth hunters' (for a little bit of rp?)
ewancummins 05-12-07, 07:49 AM	Farastu bounty hunters? Consider it done. I'll post an RP bit about it.
Return of the Flumph 05-12-07, 08:53 AM	Them 'shrooms is mean, yo.
ewancummins 05-12-07, 08:58 AM	I'm having Artheheyn teach farming to another race- the humans. Not all of them, as they are in various bands and tribes. Some may learn it from my lizardfolk, who will sometimes act as transmitters of civilization to the younger races. This is partially a bid to get agriculture in my portfolio[ something I''ve wanted from the start]. It also will explain a rapid growth in human population over the next several divine months. I like the idea of wandering human bands more than a monoculture. Not to say I don't like Kur-ah's spaceship angle. I just think some bands will wander off and form their own nations and cultures. It will help keep the image of humans as a widespread, adaptable race.
ewancummins 05-12-07, 08:59 AM	Them 'shrooms is ticked off at the gnolls.;) Better to let the races handle such things, than the gods duke it out. Usually.
Evil DM Mk3 05-12-07, 09:02 AM	I don't mind, teh spaceship is a kind of Universal holy site, humans do not agree on much, but they agree that the city of steel is important. And that untrained Psions are DANGEROUS. I never ment them to be unified, just with a common touch stone.
Camu 05-12-07, 09:16 AM	To clarify a bit about the Faratsu bounty hunters, these are Faratsu who are trained and specialised to track, capture and/or kidnap mortals. Each hunter has at least one level of the mortal hunter prestige class. There are enormous guild halls in many cities on the Nameless plane, where new demodand get trained in the arts of mortal hunting. Mortal hunters Faratsu tend to get a little more respect from there superiors then other Faratsu
ewancummins 05-12-07, 09:17 AM	Cool. Common origin might explain Common as a default language for humans[ if we use such]. I imagine regional dialects will grow into seperate tongues over time, and different writing systems will be adopted or developed.
Evil DM Mk3 05-12-07, 09:17 AM	That is to say Didily, rather than Squit.
Delfedd 05-12-07, 04:24 PM	That was NOT godmoding. Two gods attacking in concert with three artifacts against a much more powerful deity would defeat said god by a slim margin. Even though he's on his home plane, he wouldn't be able to defeat 3 artifacts, one made by the creator of the universe. Similarly, if a god attacks a weaker god on that gods homeplane with the sword of the universe and his favorite weapon, the attacker is going to win. A god with an avatar would probably have his avatar ascend to godhood at a lower level.
Evil DM Mk3 05-12-07, 04:34 PM	Sorry I have to dissagree. I roled with it but you basicly said "And I ignore all of Kurah protections, despite the fact that ever since the mountain existed it has been a fortress, becasue I can." Too far, but anyway I rolled with it.
Return of the Flumph 05-12-07, 04:35 PM	I thought Kur-ah can shunt people out of the mountain if he doesn't want them there.
Evil DM Mk3 05-12-07, 04:36 PM	Ding Ding Ding! We have a winner. ATM they are just trapped however.
Delfedd 05-12-07, 04:38 PM	Nope. He can't. You know why? Dimensional lock. The devils aren't even necissary. Ooooh ploting. And anyway, they can just shut off the dimensional lock. It's possible. Did you know that?
Delfedd 05-12-07, 04:49 PM	Actually, you only get to control one of them. The other three kind of... um... die. What with their head being off and their spine being split in half. And he would be lesser. Since it's two steps down. Technically it should be demigod, but that's just unfair. And yes, we used it as a nuke. We have been conducting the manhattan project for the last quarter of a deific year. It will fade away after the month is out. Three ap was needed to summon the artifact, and three ap was needed to use it's power. It's twice as powerful as a normal artifact, but otherwise it's the same as carrying two artifacts. And thank you. I try. Although I think the god of evil may be a bit more evil. What with personifying evil. Also, you don't meddle? dude. you're like the patron saint of meddling. I believe it's actually in your profile.
Evil DM Mk3 05-12-07, 04:53 PM	Actually, you only get to control one of them. The other three kind of... um... die. What with their head being off and their spine being split in half.No it is RP fluff, a kinda physical illusion, it does not boost my powers. RP And yes, we used it as a nuke. We have been conducting the manhattan project for the last quarter of a deific year. It will fade away after the month is out. Three ap was needed to summon the artifact, and three ap was needed to use it's power.Yes, fine. This is Hiromchima (pardon spelling). WE WILL KNOW. Although I think the god of evil may be a bit more evil. What with personifying evil.Not really. You invented sin, pretty much. YOU ARE ORIGINAL EVIL. Also, you don't meddle? dude. you're like the patron saint of meddling. I believe it's actually in your profile. When has KUR-AH (Not his agents, not the non-deific RPing) done any meddling. HELL HE ALMOST DOES NOTHING AT ALL!
Delfedd 05-12-07, 04:56 PM	yeah, but it still all links back to you. Doesn't boost your powers? you're dead my friend. That leaves your powers at... zero.
Destrieth 05-12-07, 04:56 PM	I think all three of us should get a medal. We're the paragons of goodness and justice.
Return of the Flumph 05-12-07, 04:57 PM	I say Evil DM gets to control all four of them, but the lot of them together only equal an Intermediate god.
Destrieth 05-12-07, 04:59 PM	I say that's bunk. All of these plans laid for a ONE STEP kickdown? No way. Kur-ah should stay dead.
Evil DM Mk3 05-12-07, 04:59 PM	:rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: (justice, sniff) But seriously. I do have another option here guys, but I think Delfedd is going to acuse me of Godmodding, despite all of his. Oh and how is Morintu planning on getting out of the mountain anyway? Kur-ah IS the mountain, the mountain IS Kur-ah. Morintu is SCREWED if Kur-ah dies. And I object to not being given even half a second to deffend myslef. In addition, from the point of view of the setting if Amon and Kur-ah die we have and Almost All Evil panteon. And the games in the world will mostly such as this will become a neiche game.
Destrieth 05-12-07, 05:00 PM	Kur-ah dies, you live on as Blight. Problem solved.
Delfedd 05-12-07, 05:01 PM	Um... let me think. Nope. Nope. Nope. We spent 12 AP on this. 3 for punishment, 6 for the sword of absaul-rote, 3 for my attack. You're dead kur-ah.
Destrieth 05-12-07, 05:03 PM	It's called a lightning war. We organized this ever since Morintu's fight with Amon. Sorry if we didn't see the need to consult you for our dastardly plans. And if we do have an almost all evil Pantheon, maybe you should fix that.
Evil DM Mk3 05-12-07, 05:04 PM	OK, what about War? The prison of war is PART of kur-ah. NOT GOOD. The moutain is about to leave reality. ALSO NOT GOOD. I am god of knowladge and I have written records of all possible futures. I got no warning. I call unfair. In any case I am DMing a game ATM, and can't be online as much as would be needed. OH and BTW. WHY KUR-AH FOR **** SAKE?????
riverrock 05-12-07, 05:04 PM	Hey, the alignment make up of the pantheon is no one's fault but the gods of good. There have always been several options that they could have had (create new good gods, convert non-good gods) but they never utilized them. Also, since when is Kur-ah omniscent?
Delfedd 05-12-07, 05:06 PM	Kur-ah IS the mountain, the mountain IS Kur-ah. Oh that's good. That way I won't have to spend AP destroying it. I've already attacked kur-ah, attacking the mountain will be part of the same action. As for this being a Niche game, well, you've got TWO years. We did ALL this in one. Make a council of Good. ACTIVELY help people this time instead of going off working on your projects. Powers like evil must be actively opposed. I'm just as interesting in having a playable game as you are. But that doesn't mean the gods of evil are going to make their plans transparent and easily avoided. Every campaign needs more than just a little evil. Also, Kur-ah, What in all heck are you talking about? When have you ever said that the mountain is part of you? When have you ever said it would leave reality if it was destroyed? That doesn't happen to anyone elses plane. I believe what you are doing is called "retconning." The why? Meddling. Also, you'll see later on. Also, I believe I speak for almost everyone here. Kur-ah is not, was not, and now will never be the main character of this story. Ooh, so THAT's why you've been godding. Those written records of everything that can ever happen anywhere anywhen. The reason you got no warning? The sword of your creator. Probably. Also, my allies where sick of being ignored.
Evil DM Mk3 05-12-07, 05:06 PM	SINCE YEAR 1 MONTH 3 Or there abouts. And I was trying for a neutral god IN THE MIDDLE I start teaming up with the good guys and this all gets ****ed
Destrieth 05-12-07, 05:07 PM	Let me list the reasons for not telling letting Kur-ah see through prophecy: Prophecy is never sure-fire. The future is malleable and always changes based on small actions. It would completely hamstring any evil plans. I don't want to live in a world where evil can't do anything. And aren't you about balance anyways? Reasons for killing Kur-ah: Kur-ah's creations meddle in just about everything under the sun. Kur-ah always tries to interject into the spotlight with some opinion or another, always meddling. We wanted Kur-ah dead with Amon; we were a little sick of being ignored, Riverrock and I, so we figured shaking everything around would refocus you all a little bit. This isn't the story of Kur-ah and his magical neutrality land.
riverrock 05-12-07, 05:08 PM	Exactly. The gods of good had plenty of options for increasing the numbers in their camp, but they never utilized any of them. Show the world how awesome good is, instead of doing random crap that makes no sense. Talk to people who are on the sidelines, or even on the opposing side. Redemption should be a power of good-but its never been attempted. Or, if that fails...make new gods of good! That would work!
Evil DM Mk3 05-12-07, 05:10 PM	OK but how are you 1:Going to deal with the now free war, The prison is linked to Kur-ah so logicaly there is not a hole in the wall. 2:Morintu and everything else in the mountain will cease to be inside reality. If he is lucky he ought to become a vestige. Oh are you going to let teh dead gods make new greater gods? If not then Good is SCREWED. Morintu is not pretty much running the show.
riverrock 05-12-07, 05:12 PM	If: 1. The entity is in the prison; 2. The prison is part of Kur-ah 3. Kur-ah is the mountain 4. The mountain is outside of reality Then it shouldn't be a problem at all.
Delfedd 05-12-07, 05:12 PM	WHAT THE HECK ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT! No one elses plane dissappears when they die. you would have to have said TWO things. ONE The mountian is intristicly linked to me. TWO If I die my mountain AND EVERYTHING IN IT MAGICALLY DISSAPPEARS! War being free is fine. You did mention that.
Evil DM Mk3 05-12-07, 05:13 PM	So the prison is outside reality? THAT IS WORSE YOU NUMBSKULL! You either let it go or you let it go HOME. To rally forces and attack once again. When somene joins the pact an area of the plane comes into existance. Logcaly the oposite happens if they leave/die. It leaves existance. SIMPLE.
riverrock 05-12-07, 05:14 PM	Yay, insults that were made without any justification! Maybe rethink what you've just posted.
Delfedd 05-12-07, 05:14 PM	OK. We can trap it again. Or use it. Whichever. Remember. War is fun.
Destrieth 05-12-07, 05:14 PM	You're telling the evil deities that war will be let loose from a prison. Are we supposed to see this as a negative..?
Destrieth 05-12-07, 05:18 PM	So you're saying that since Absaul-rote created the universe and then left the game as it were, all of creation should have winked out? I think we see the problem here.
Evil DM Mk3 05-12-07, 05:19 PM	Ok, ok, ok, calm down Matthew. It is like year 7 on the playgrounds again. Don't lose your temper. As I clearly explained to Morintu, both in PMs and in the main thread, it is a force of unrealty that undoes existance. It was a unique instance that let it be trapped. No force of reality can trap it becasue it is liek trapping an infiante scource of anti-matter in a clay pot. And it is only called war, its effect is endless, mindles violance, as I tried to explain. These are ment to be akin to the squiggle in OOTS and the Elder Evils of the Chuthullu mythos. And pardon me for trying to make a playable world in an expermient in world creation. I spent NONE of my AP this turn on Kur-ah directly. NONE.
Delfedd 05-12-07, 05:21 PM	It's alright Evil DM. You did your part. Now you get to be an evil god! isn't that going to be fun!
Destrieth 05-12-07, 05:22 PM	I'm certainly not angry at all. Quite the opposite; I'm pretty bemused. I've always dreamed of turning this world into Ravenloft, so for me the mission is on its way to being accomplished.
Camu 05-12-07, 05:25 PM	ok guys, i know i'm still the new guy, but i think we should all take a deep breath and calm down a bit This is a game, it is supposed to be fun
Destrieth 05-12-07, 05:26 PM	I'm having a great time.
Evil DM Mk3 05-12-07, 05:27 PM	I was untill, say, an hour ago. Now someone is jumping up and down on my game board. Hang on, Morintu, are you really going to do that? EAT the body that once held all knowladge and almost went crazy becasue of it? ARE you REALLY going to take that on yourslef? Rather silly.
Evil DM Mk3 05-12-07, 05:30 PM	Can I at least do a funky RP ending? Kur-ah's death is not going to go un-noticed, he/she was in most pantheons.
Destrieth 05-12-07, 05:30 PM	You forget. Morintu is evil. Why are you upset? You should have considered that the rest of us were a little unhappy with being pushed to the wayside. In all honesty, Kur-ah loved to meddle either via creations or sticking his opinions in places no one asked. We thought it was easy to simply have him/her killed. If it involves Kur-ah dying and staying dead, do it how you like. If it involves making Morintu get sick, die, go crazy or something spiteful then leave it in your head and focus on Blight.
Evil DM Mk3 05-12-07, 05:34 PM	What rather than talk? Kur-ah the god, terried fo violance? Kur-ah who tried to bring harmoy and equalty to the gods?! The one person who would happil have said "oh, sorry, I didn't realise they where doing that. I will keep a closer eye in futre.":confused: I meddled (as you point out via proxy) puerly to try and re-balance the game becasue good was missing. Look at the event over the sun god's creations. I intended it to be a one post in and out job to give a second choice to the species and to stop morintu grabbing prehaps the one race that whoudl never follow him. Delfedd turned it into a catastrophy.
Destrieth 05-12-07, 05:37 PM	No, stop pushing the blame away. Riverrock and myself have not enjoyed the game exactly because of your skewed views of balance and your constant toe-stepping. The world doesn't need to have a perfect equilibrium, and this isn't the Evil DM Channel where we watch as you tweak and calibrate the game to how you think it should be. We wanted a wee bit of spotlight so we decided to shake the snowglobe, as it were. As it stands now, we've accomplished something monumental, and we're immensely pleased. Do what you want after, but don't just trivialize our actions like you always do.
Evil DM Mk3 05-12-07, 05:40 PM	I AM pleased for you. Also I was not aware that you felt that way (And I would have changed if I had know). Also just becasue Kur-ah kept saying it doesn;t make it right, nor does it mean that it ruins the game that it is being said.
d24478667 05-12-07, 05:42 PM	You could do the same thing I did, have the dead god's power flow to their draconic herald.
Destrieth 05-12-07, 05:43 PM	Just as long as we don't get Kur-ah II, I would be happy with whatever. I want some new perspective in this game, not just the same gods springing up to carry on the same work. Make some good-minded zealots or something. That's my last post on the subject.
Evil DM Mk3 05-12-07, 05:47 PM	If I can make a new god then don't worry I never re-use my ideas. Oh and MY last post on the subject is on the main thread.
d24478667 05-12-07, 05:52 PM	Looks like TyDyw went goodbye. What with this and the shocking* refusal of Glykllivar's, Frostbite might just become a paranoid cynic, but not to the extent of falling. *To Frostbite
jamvid 05-12-07, 08:53 PM	While trying to avoid any major flames, I would like to add my voice to the arguments: 'godmodding': I can think of one point where Kur'Ah, in my opinion, godmodded. that was the instance where his centaur cleric came for the solanthi when Icoscol was herding them. I can think of many times when Morintu or his gang (yes, it is a gang), in my opinion has godmodded or come very close to it. when he killed Avnuk without spending AP or giving Anuvrix a chance for a response, when , after Evil DM had made the pact and clarified if the pact was broken, the universe would undo itself, Kyrinian just said 'I leave' without making any reasonable explanation, when Morintu refused to acknowledge the obvious fact that he should have been losing the argument with the solanthi, when Kyrinian and Alusia just now killed Amon without letting Janusunaj respond, and when Morintu used something, without creating them, to come in another deities plane by knowing how, even though he never learned how, and killing the deity without letting him/her defend him/herself. That is godmodding in a blatant, obvious extreme. killing of gods: it is my personal belief that a god should not be allowed to be killed unless the god, or the controller of the god, allows it. the only case of god-death in which this has been followed is Ry'theals beheading. besides this I have the following observations and complaints -Avnuk: this god was killed outright without (to my knowledge) consent. a mediocre explanation was given: gods have power over their own planes and another god was relatively powerless to stop the planes god, not even allowed to enter unless the other God says so. -Amon: this god was attacked in his plane which, according to Morintus rule of planes, Alusia and Kyrinian should not have even been allowed to enter. he was first attacked, which could be an interesting conflict between gods, but then, before Janusunaj even was able to comment on his attack, his god, his pride and joy was killed. -Kur'Ah: Kur'ah was attacked by Morintu in his plane which, according to Morintus rule of planes, Morintu could not even been allowed to enter. He then Bypassed Kur-Ahs labyrinthine tunnels simply because 'he knew'. only two gods should know how to do that, and that would be Elvunil and Kur'Ah. I know there are no rules as to whether or not a deity can simply say 'I kill X deity' but I have always felt it common courtesy to kill only when allowed by the person you're killing. I also feel that there is a difference from (attack god) and (kill god), although there are no rules for this, and I guess that is just me personally venting, but: riverrock, Delfedd, and Destrieth, I ask you this: wouldn't you be (rightfully) angry if someone came along and killed your god without your permission, ruining all your plans and ideas. wouldn't you feel cheated? I know I would. Even if someone spent 20AP, had 100 artifacts, was 100 divine ranks above me, and was in their own plane I would not accept their killing me in one turn without even me getting a chance to respond or give my consent. Kur-Ahs actions: the main two points of Kur-ahs and EvilDMs actions that have come under recent scrutiny are his 'meddling' and his 'attention-hogging'. I will state how I feel of the meddling here. I assume the major evidence come from the solanthi solicitations, and, while I understand that Kur-Ah was probably overstepping his boundaries, one could argue that you(Morintu) were meddling with RotFs plan through the psurlons, and that Ry'theal was meddling with everyone that didn't expect all of their living followers to begin dying. We are all people with varied personalities, and our interests are bound to differ, and we will affect others' plans. it’s bound to happen. 'not enough spotlight': this has been said/paraphrased by both Destrieth and riverrock: Kur-ah is taking up to much time and spotlight. -Kur-Ah: Kur-Ah was a very major player in the deific sense. he was, after all, the 4th god created. also, many people have brought things to him/her. Ry'theal came to him, as did Morintu when he attacked, I don't see any injustice in the amount of time that Kur-Ah has taken up -Kyrinian: Riverrock, I mean no offense to you, but I feel you need to relax yourself with your belief that no one reads what you post. you have mentioned your anger towards this many times, although, rather than not reading your posts, I think most people simply forget part of the 35+ pages of RPing. I believe Kyrinian is one of the most influential and powerful deities (even more so if we all actually agree that y'all killed the once two oldest living deities). -Alusia: the only reason you would have been ignored, in my mind, was the fact that you, on your own, took a leave from the game. We can't interact with someone that has left (even temporarily). -Morintu: if people actually think Kur'ah has been hogging the spotlight, they should also think that Morintu is doing the same (I don't, Delfedd BTW, just saying). This is because, if looked at a certain way, it can be said that almost 3/4th of the mythology so far has focused upon the slow fall from grace of the wind god. that's my view, and it's what I'm saying. I feel, that if Janusunaj and/or EvilDM would like to live, or get to at least react or have a say in things, I think we should have a vote.
d24478667 05-12-07, 09:13 PM	Yeah; when I was Glacieso, I was mad cause I didn't get much show-time. Then I did all those evolutions, and people got angry. Did I attack four gods in the next turn? No. I scrapped, started over, and interacted a lot more. And no god can say that Frostbite has not affected them in anyway. So, attacking two gods because you didn't get show-time is really not excusable. Killing them is even less so. I am not claiming I am perfect. I had the biggest screw up in LoC history until today. Damnit, I want my title back! ;)
Evil DM Mk3 05-12-07, 09:29 PM	jamvid, thank you for what I feel is a fair and even handed apraisal of events. I have allready reigned to Kur-ah's death, but it annoys me no end, partaily becasue both I (OOC) and he (IC) would have seriously altered the way they where behacing if they had recived a note other than a sword to the neck. Also a lot of the time Kur-ah himself/herself has in fact been right out of the picture for one reason or another. I do not exepct the attack to be undone, I am too much of a realist for that, but I am glad that I am not alone in at least some of my views. Thank you.
riverrock 05-12-07, 09:32 PM	Quite frankly, its none of your buisness. What happened is between the people who are involved. That would be myself, Delfedd, Destrieth, Janusuanj, and evil_dm. However, I will still respond to the points you brought up pertaining to myself and Kyrinian. ...after Evil DM had made the pact and clarified if the pact was broken, the universe would undo itself, Kyrinian just said 'I leave' without making any reasonable explanation... If you would go back, and read what happened, you would find that there is a reasonable explanation. Anyway, evil_dm said that Kyrinian could not leave, so it is a moot point. (And I will point out, BTW, that I was told neither that I would be unable to leave nor that breaking the pact would destroy the universe, which is balatant god-moding in my opinion. I guess we have different opinions on what is godmoding. IMHO, its god moding when a deity acts if they would know something that just occured thousands of miles away. IMHO, its god-moding when a deity pretends to be omniscent. IMHO, its god-moding when a deity creates a species that isn't even possible by what has been set out. ...when Kyrinian and Alusia just now killed Amon without letting Janusunaj respond... Quite frankly, if Janusunaj comes back and says that Amon wasn't actually dead, I wouldn't care. Kur-Ahs actions: the main two points of Kur-ahs and EvilDMs actions that have come under recent scrutiny are his 'meddling' and his 'attention-hogging' Kur-ah has insinuated himself into events that have nothing to do with him at all, such as the war between the Vaati and the athaches. He has done a lot of this vicariously, but he did it nonetheless. Riverrock, I mean no offense to you, but I feel you need to relax yourself with your belief that no one reads what you post. you have mentioned your anger towards this many times, although, rather than not reading your posts, I think most people simply forget part of the 35+ pages of RPing. I believe Kyrinian is one of the most influential and powerful deities (even more so if we all actually agree that y'all killed the once two oldest living deities). ...And here's the sticker. Was I ignored when I created fey that were defenders of nature, and Kur-ah tried to do the same thing? Was I ignored when I took the sun, and the only response was "Oh, good, the sun's back on. Let's go back to Kur-ah"? Was I ignored when I created a ruby specifically so another deity would talk to Kyrinian, and no one bothered to pick it up? Also, "influential?" I'm suprised that you would even pretend like this is true. And I complain about being ignored because that has consistently been the only way that I actually get paid attention to. "The squeaky wheel gets the oil," so to speak. That's just the way I see it.
Evil DM Mk3 05-12-07, 09:49 PM	Was I ignored when I created fey that were defenders of nature, and Kur-ah tried to do the same thing?In MY defence I read all your posts. I just don't RE-READ them every time I take an action at at the time you did not have them on the "races created" portion. I apologised and changed what I did. Was I ignored when I took the sun, and the only response was "Oh, good, the sun's back on. Let's go back to Kur-ah"?That puzzled me too a bit. I mean I ahd been working towards the far realms bit for a while but I have no idea why the lime light shifted back so much. Maybe it was the demons/nightmares, dunno. Was I ignored when I created a ruby specifically so another deity would talk to Kyrinian, and no one bothered to pick it up?You where in the pact (and thus contactable) so I didn't want to interfear with your reaching to another god. My reason. Also, "influential?" I'm suprised that you would even pretend like this is true. And I complain about being ignored because that has consistently been the only way that I actually get paid attention to. "The squeaky wheel gets the oil," so to speak.While it is true you don't get a lot of face time a lot of that is not whoely my fault. For one thing the falling act you did, whilst masterful, got overshadowed by Delfedd's far more inflated and obvious (as in easy to notice) one. I mentioned your falling in equal standing to Morintus through out if you will recall. Again my bigest bone of contention is that everyone went for the throught without telling me or giving me warning that I was getting on their nerves. Also I do recall putting what I felt would be good guildlines for deiaty on dieaty violance somewhere in here, including "kill only if it is ok with them" but it never got responded to. Just the way I see it.
Evil DM Mk3 05-12-07, 09:53 PM	Guys I hate to say this but this project, based on posts and various PMs that have flown about, is in the final stages of TooManyCookitis. I doubt that it can be saved.
riverrock 05-12-07, 09:55 PM	First of all, none of that was aimed at you, specifically. Second of all, if you want to say Kur-ah isn't dead, fine by me. Delfedd and Destrieth will probably take issue with it, though. Third of all, the impression that I have gotten is that you don't care what I think about what you do, or what I think about anything for that matter. The mannicorn issue, for example, or the incident or Anvux, or the multiple deities incident, or what happened with demons, or the more recent issue of what would happen with the mountain are all fresh in my mind. I never said anything, because it didn't seem like you would care, and there seemed like a good chance it would end with me getting shouted out (electronically, because that is what typing in all caps means.)
Return of the Flumph 05-12-07, 09:56 PM	It can easily be saved. Just stop whining about how your characters have been mistreated and take a step back. Seriously, you think Kur-ah's death was an attack against YOU? It doesn't matter if Kur-ah was meddling in other people's affairs or not; some other gods-evil ones, I might add-IC, decided he was. That is not worth arguing about in the OOC thread. Same goes for riverrock "being ignored." I have not been ignoring his posts-indeed, I truly enjoyed his take on the demons-but Glykllivar never had any reason to interact with him until the psurlon incident, and so she didn't. Kyrinian hardly ever approaches anyone else, and so no one takes much interest in him. It has nothing to do with the players involved. This is a GAME. The only things I've taken issue with so far are 1. the invincible centaur, 2. Icoscol's ability to make the Solanthi like him for no reason, and 3. Morintu's instakill of Amon and Kur-ah, which-as others have pointed out-does not work in the context of the planar lord rules he referenced when he killed Avnuk. Those were all cases of godmodding. But they also weren't personal insults against anyone.
Evil DM Mk3 05-12-07, 09:59 PM	But I do care, if you had said, even PMed I would have been happy to alter course. (And over the sun remember I was torn between tow kids...) This is a game for us all. There are some times I did not agree with you, such as the Mainocorns where I read it as "just a description" and you read it as "illogical use of words". But that is a minour issue, in my opinion anyway. We would in real deap doodoos I Delfedd hadn't posted about demons becasue it has not occured to Camu or myslef. I sent a PM to you, we talked, we reached a compomise. Oh and Kur-ah is dead, you are quite right about what would happen if I tried anything else.
riverrock 05-12-07, 10:05 PM	Some goes for riverrock "being ignored." I have not been ignoring his posts-indeed, I truly enjoyed his take on the demons-but Glykllivar never had any reason to interact with him until the psurlon incident, and so she didn't. How I feel is perfectly legitimate, especially considering the amount of time I have invested in this thread. I have posted again, and again, and again in attempts to get a little more interaction with other deities. I stole the sun. I stole the bard city. I turned evil. I created a magic ruby specifically so another deity would interact with Kyrinian. Why should I invest this much time in it if these actions get consistently ignored? And, I just have gotten the impression that disagreeing with you [evil_dm] will lead to insults. (like with the numbskull comment) Perhaps I have misinterpreted what you said. But quite frankly, I have felt bullied, repeatedly. Maybe I should have pm'ed you, but it seemed like it would be an exercise in futility.
Evil DM Mk3 05-12-07, 10:09 PM	And, I just have gotten the impression that disagreeing with you [evil_dm] will lead to insults. (like with the numbskull comment)I apologise again but I mentioned earlier I was running a game that was going south quite quickly. Also I had mentioned (but apparently not made clear) to you in PMs and posts what would happen if one of them got free. Ironicaly I felt ignored.I have felt bulliedDitto
d24478667 05-12-07, 10:09 PM	I admit I should have interacted with Kyrnian more; in fact, I probably had the most reason to. But I didn't. And I apologize for that. And this is the poster child of too little too late.
Return of the Flumph 05-12-07, 10:11 PM	Riverrock, why would we randomly single out your character to be ignored? What would cause everyone to unanimously decide that Kyrinian was the one god that no one can pay attention to? Why? Because we didn't. You may or may not have noticed, but creating a few races off on the side-no matter how cool they are-is not likely to garner the attention of other gods unless you have them interact with another race in some attention-getting way. Did anyone care when I created the morkoths? Did anyone care when Artheyan created the myconids? No. Given the lack of initiative your races have taken in interaction, they've actually gotten a reasonable amount of attention. Blight used a dryad to make his hags. The psurlons attacked Bard City to get revenge on the harpies. The harpies themselves were contacted by the Undying Court. As for stealing the sun; Glykllivar congratulated Kyrinian, but he never said anything back, so she didn't push it. You can go back and check if you want. I think you are being kind of paranoid.
Evil DM Mk3 05-12-07, 10:12 PM	No he did fear, you did paranoia. [/joke]
riverrock 05-12-07, 10:13 PM	I apologise again but I mentioned earlier I was running a game that was going south quite quickly. Also I had mentioned (but apparently not made clear) to you in PMs and posts what would happen if one of them got free. Ironicaly I felt ignored.Ditto I'm not entirely sure what you are referring to about what would happen if one of them got free. Ditto But, by who? I have neither insulted nor initiated a screaming match with you. I admit I should have interacted with Kyrnian more; in fact, I probably had the most reason to. But I didn't. And I apologize for that. And this is the poster child of too little too late. I'm not asking that every deity interact with me. I'm just saying, when I do something like steal the sun, I expect that it would get at least a little more reaction than it did.
riverrock 05-12-07, 10:15 PM	Riverrock, why would we randomly single out your character to be ignored? What would cause everyone to unanimously decide that Kyrinian was the one god that no one can pay attention to? Why? Because we didn't. You may or may not have noticed, but creating a few races off on the side-no matter how cool they are-is not likely to garner the attention of other gods unless you have them interact with another race in some attention-getting way. Did anyone care when I created the morkoths? Did anyone care when Artheyan created the myconids? No. Given the lack of initiative your races have taken in interaction, they've actually gotten a reasonable amount of attention. Blight used a dryad to make his hags. The psurlons attacked Bard City to get revenge on the harpies. The harpies themselves were contacted by the Undying Court. As for stealing the sun; Glykllivar congratulated Kyrinian, but he never said anything back, so she didn't push it. You can go back and check if you want. I think you are being kind of paranoid. Have I said anything remotely of this nature? The answer is no. But thank you for demonstrating what a straw man is. And as I have said, I have done more than simply "create cool races."
Evil DM Mk3 05-12-07, 10:15 PM	I'm not entirely sure what you are referring to about what would happen if one of them got free.The whole these are forces that negate the rules of reality thus bringing about the armagedon, hells I even alled tehm OOC an apocalypse myth. They where ment to be flavour, now one of them has gone off!:( But, by who? I have neither insulted nor initiated a screaming match with you. Just in genral, I am afraid I do. It is a complex, childhood etc etc etc. Alhtough this whole buness has left me feelign VERY sore indeed. Oh and whilst you never said it was an active group desicion, that is the impression I got from teh post too. That is the diffcult with forums, not tone or infection. No emotion to read. * sigh *
Return of the Flumph 05-12-07, 10:17 PM	How I feel is perfectly legitimate, especially considering the amount of time I have invested in this thread. I have posted again, and again, and again in attempts to get a little more interaction with other deities. I stole the sun. I stole the bard city. I turned evil. I created a magic ruby specifically so another deity would interact with Kyrinian. Why should I invest this much time in it if these actions get consistently ignored? This is what I was referring to. I don't think I was building a straw man argument.
Evil DM Mk3 05-12-07, 10:19 PM	Straw man, eh? could you please rephrase that, we are all a little touchy, it is 3:20 AM for me for one thing and I hate napalm pie...
riverrock 05-12-07, 10:22 PM	Ypu referred to the creation of species, which were not what I was complaining about being ignored. So it was a straw man, because it wasn't my arguement and you could easily refute it. I did more than create races. I did other things. That were largely ignored. Yes, recently I have gotten more interaction. But one of those things involved behind the scenes workings that you are not aware of and one of them was relatively minor. Also, I hadn't complained about being ignored recently until jamvid and destrieth brought it up. I've been much more satisifed the past few turns events. But, in the past I have been unhappy because nothing I did got any interaction whatsoever.
Evil DM Mk3 05-12-07, 10:24 PM	Gah the pie! [/joke]
Destrieth 05-12-07, 10:26 PM	I would just like to say that our reasoning for being ignored is really secondary to the fact that we're evil. My biggest motive to do all this and plan all of these atrocities was to polarize the pantheon. There are a LOT of neutral people, including Glykllivar, Arteheyn, Formerly-Kur-Ah, Formerly-Amon (no one can argue he acts in anything but neutral), and Pholtone. I just wanted to introduce a little action into the game and maybe get you people to drop the neutrality attitude and make some new, active and polarized gods. Because frankly, a bunch of middle-road walkers is really boring. To address Jamvid: I stopped posting for two weeks and then we decided to put our plan forward after that period. We're not upset over the lack of attention so much as the lack of real action and spontaneity. It was turning into a boring series of making creations and paying lipservice. Drama needed to happen, and the mission was accomplished. And to answer your question, I'm not at all attached to my character because I could make a new one if something were to happen. This is an experiment and you people shouldn't get attached to your screen text. Kill Alusia, I wouldn't bat an eye. If it was creative, I'd give you a pat on the back, especially if the reason was good. In Alusia's eyes, killing Amon was perfectly acceptable and that's what she'd wanted to do ever since he created a weakling wrath god. If y'all think I'm at all upset over your reactions or what's turned out, I'm not at all. I can't speak for riverrock or delfedd on this issue but me personally, I am tickled pink. I love when you guys get riled up and it makes me happy to see people picking sides.
d24478667 05-12-07, 10:27 PM	Off-topic: Hey, Evil_Dm, do you mind if Frostbite binds War? I have an interesting idea for that.
riverrock 05-12-07, 10:29 PM	I certainly did not intend to start an OOC arguement. I also didn't intend for this to turn into an arguement about whether or not I got ignored. But jamvid brought up comments that were made a long time ago, and I had every right to defend myself. As I said, I have been much more satisfied recently, but that is a recent occurence.
Evil DM Mk3 05-12-07, 10:30 PM	On that subject, will I be permited to continue to have tow gods or am I to go back down to one. If I am to be permitted to have a second again I have quite a nice idea for a god that could logicaly arise from Kur-ah's left over energy and would certainly do a bit of polarising. On the other hand how do you polarise a pantheon where ALL the majour gods (save one) are now evil? IMHO you made it worse, not better. But that is just IMHO and I am proud of my cynicysm. Yes I am wierd, what of it? And why should I care about War? I am dead! Do it quick mind. ;) See you all in the morning.
Destrieth 05-12-07, 10:32 PM	It's called making new, fresh gods who are devoted to good.
Evil DM Mk3 05-12-07, 10:34 PM	And would be lesser-demi in level... (sorry just caught that one, NOW I am off to bed.)
riverrock 05-12-07, 10:38 PM	A lot of deities are sitting on the sidelines as neutral, and only one attempt has ever been made to turn them good. Furthermore, redemption is supposed to be a weapon in the arsenal of good. Why haven't any of the good gods attempted to redeem one of the evil gods? That would be a good way to increase the numbers of the forces of good.
ewancummins 05-13-07, 12:21 AM	I humbly suggest we alter the rules to require player consent before a god is killed. I think the issue is contentious enough to lead to flame wars and a general disintegration of the whole campaign/thread.
Janusunaj 05-13-07, 01:29 AM	The insta-kill of AMon is unacceptable.
Delfedd 05-13-07, 02:28 AM	At first there was silance. Then, in one moment, the world knew the death of one of it's oldest gods. Amoung nearly all the races clerics awoke from their sleep or colapsed in their temples, and screamed, babbling about apocalipse and screaming about the end of the world. Firefang and Earthscale, for former as it was about to rescue Frostbite's ring, screamed and turned to ashes, part of the god as they where. The halls of the bardic schools rang with Kur-ah's love poem, the work that had rolled though the ears of her clerics in her dark time, a poem of her love of the wise serpent. The volcanoes of the world spat fire into the heavens, and for a day and night the sky was black with ash and sulphur. Kur-ah, Lord of mountains, Lady of fire, was dead. Wow. That is an amazing post. I'm sorry, but I like it a lot. With that post in mind, I really want to know what the idea for your other deity is. Amon's avatar can ascend.
Evil DM Mk3 05-13-07, 03:46 AM	The idea for the new god (good aligned) can be summed up in one word. Giants.
Delfedd 05-13-07, 03:49 AM	*Gasp!* Yay! We needed more giants! How is this conected with Kur-ah? Remember, your corpse is mine.
Evil DM Mk3 05-13-07, 03:49 AM	Oh and this is my ofical vote for "Gods can only die with their player's concent".
Evil DM Mk3 05-13-07, 03:52 AM	*Gasp!* Yay! We needed more giants! How is this conected with Kur-ah? Remember, your corpse is mine. "And the energy that flowed from the dead god entred the world through his favourate places, the mountains and hill, the ice peaks and volcanoes. It came together and became as one, and one became as myriad." That would be both the god (the one) and giant races (all good ATM) (the myriad) created together. A little weak I know but once again teh race is differant. Now giants are the powerful avenger's of good, first created from raw divine energy, their god their king, rather than their creator.
Janusunaj 05-13-07, 03:54 AM	I have an idea. After being Instant Messaged, we have come to a conclusion that maybe Amon could survive his murder, only to find he had been demoted to level 1 mortal. After ward, Amon would have climbed back through adventuring, and become DvR 20 again, with all 7 AP points and 47 class levels he used to have. It creates a great myth, attracts worshipers, and adds flavor to the game. This way, I would have survived, yet still be murdered.
Evil DM Mk3 05-13-07, 03:54 AM	Oh and I still think my idea that (if Amon is not going to stay dead) they killed Amon's name by mistake. You all know that schtick about the power of the name. EDIT:With Amon's idea and mine we would have an un-namable force that is forged from Amon.
Return of the Flumph 05-13-07, 03:55 AM	How do you plan to regain your divinity?
Evil DM Mk3 05-13-07, 03:58 AM	Before we go much firther we still need to answer these questions: What did happen to the pact of Tydyw? (I think nothing) How vulnerable is a god in his home plane? (Cause that is very unclear and has been declared both ways. Also it is theoreticaly possible for The Namless Realm to physicaly move.) Can gods be killed without their players concent? (I want to say no.) No ret-conning should happen wither way.
Janusunaj 05-13-07, 03:59 AM	Through a contest between Amon and Morintu. Morintu makes a bargain with Amon, and they fight eachother indirectly. Morintu tosses monsters at him occasionally, and then, after Amon does one final task, he is awarded his divinity, and then gains the heart of Kur-Ah(Or eyes, or the full body) to prevent Morintu from eating it.
Evil DM Mk3 05-13-07, 04:02 AM	Kur-ah had no heart. It exploded out into the first dragon eggs, remember?
Return of the Flumph 05-13-07, 04:03 AM	What leverage to you have to make Morintu honor that?
Evil DM Mk3 05-13-07, 04:03 AM	More than didly, less than squit...
Janusunaj 05-13-07, 04:04 AM	Hm. I'm not sure.
Janusunaj 05-13-07, 04:05 AM	I might just put this off until I can talk to Delfedd here on the boards and have him explain it to us.
Evil DM Mk3 05-13-07, 05:58 AM	This is a small note about me to make future conflict less likely. I enjoy debate. I have an insatable curisoty as to why people take up contrary possitions to mine. I want to know why certain things are what they are. So if I seem confrontational most likely (unless I am shouting) I am not attacking you, but you viewpoint. I am more than happy (if fact I am delighted) if you defend it fairly. On another note, I wonder what Blight's dreams are like? Probably a great white force, of knives. Or similar.
Evil DM Mk3 05-13-07, 06:22 AM	OK I just listened to a BBC Radio 4 documentry on Egipt and had a great idea for this giant god if I get to do him, problem is it requires a little tweaking of the rules. Rather than Gaints having god, the Royal Family of All Tribes (Strom Giants BTW) are all touched by divinty and the High King (or Queen) of all Tribes is in fact a deiaty, much like the Pharo was thought to be. The reason this requires rules to be tweaked becasue rather than a spirit with an avatar I would be a long line of mortals with no spirit, basicly a free avatar but less capability to contact other gods, join pacts ect. I just like the idea, if I can't use it I am SOOO putting him in my next custom world.
Camu 05-13-07, 06:26 AM	sounds cool, but what if someone or something would end the bloodline??? Because even though that farao would be godlike, his son wouldn't be until his father dies and he recieves the power.
Evil DM Mk3 05-13-07, 06:28 AM	The bloodline is more spiritual. If the royal family are wiped out (unliekly, even the non-king would be paraiagons.) another clan ruler and his family would take up the power. Of course that would be a huge shift in overall views and so would be like remaking the same god with differant objectives and a differant mind.
Camu 05-13-07, 06:34 AM	hmmm.. I guess that could work, but what level of divine rank would this deity, no more then demi-god i suppose.
Evil DM Mk3 05-13-07, 06:37 AM	I dunno. the problem is that it is suposed to be aprt of the great good revolution. ATM good is a little undertaffed, and some of the good gods are also behaing like evil ones, a bit. This guy neede to have a bit of cop otherwise good are never going to be able to stand up to evil for more than 5 mins before they are all dead again. Dunno. Still have no idea why Kur-ah kept getting lumped in with the good bregade...
Camu 05-13-07, 06:47 AM	True. And I like the concept, don't get me wrong.
Camu 05-13-07, 06:52 AM	It would be cool though that his power is more directly conected to his people and followers, because that's what the game is lacking at the moment, being worshiped We all act like gods and all of us have created more then a few races, and there is a little non-divine rp. At the moment it doesn't really matter if you have followers or not, and these followers are more used like pawns on a chest board then actual free minded people, but in my opinion there should be some form of symbiosis between the gods and there subjects. (and this is just an opinion, no blaming, because I know I'm doing it myself and I'm going to try and do it a little different from now on)
d24478667 05-13-07, 07:32 AM	For the record, I have not created more then a few races; I have only made one. And I have showed said symbiosis, twice I believe. When I attacked Rythe'al, I stated that the putting out the sun killed many of my worshipers, and that drained the majority of my power, and left me open to being killed (then again, with recent events it doesn't seem to matter if a god is open or not); this shows that I need my worshipers to survive. I also protected my worshipers by killing that ice worm. Not only did I stop a famine settling in, I stopped it from killing all of the Arctic Rose.
Evil DM Mk3 05-13-07, 07:46 AM	Yes, well done. I prefer Frostbite pie to Napalm pie.
Camu 05-13-07, 08:17 AM	For the record, I have not created more then a few races; I have only made one. And I have showed said symbiosis, twice I believe. When I attacked Rythe'al, I stated that the putting out the sun killed many of my worshipers, and that drained the majority of my power, and left me open to being killed (then again, with recent events it doesn't seem to matter if a god is open or not); this shows that I need my worshipers to survive. I also protected my worshipers by killing that ice worm. Not only did I stop a famine settling in, I stopped it from killing all of the Arctic Rose. True As i said before, i'm not judgeing anyone, maybe it's just because I havn't done to many things except creating creatures. Maybe because i'm only in the project active for about two weeks. Anyway keep up the good work and I hope i can do some great things aswell
d24478667 05-13-07, 08:19 AM	By the way, I actually really like the 7. Sometimes it seems like each one is based off of one of the 7 Deadly Sins.
Camu 05-13-07, 08:28 AM	I love them too We each create one at a time, so i'm always looking forward to the ones Evil DM creates.
Evil DM Mk3 05-13-07, 08:31 AM	Well it is not exact. The first guy is a fat greedy politican, so Sloth Greed AND gluttony there. The second is a merchant, so OTHER PEOPLES greed. and so on.:cookie: :twocents: :pumpkin: :turkey: to anyone who can tell me where I got the ballard from.
Evil DM Mk3 05-13-07, 09:02 AM	BTW Halkane partialy exists as a plot device, a scource for things like "monkey paw" (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Monkey%27s_paw)magic items and so on.
d24478667 05-13-07, 09:07 AM	Gah, I remember that story.. Also, on Tuesday morning, I will be in DC until Friday. I will send both Evil Dm Mk 3 and Return of the Flumph a PM describing my immediate actions, so that they may post it; when I get back, I will check and make sure. This is a heads-up, brought to you by Frostbite's Wisp Messenger System©.
ewancummins 05-13-07, 11:05 AM	Good stuff. I like how you guys have handled this whole affair. I like EvilDm's idea about giants and a giant god. I shelved my own secret plans regarding giants when I read his post. Amon being reborn and battling his way up to ascend again into power is cool. I suppose that will take him till next month, or something? The Slain and Risen One, Ahura Amon.
Evil DM Mk3 05-13-07, 11:06 AM	Come on Camu, get us seven for seven!! As a hint BTW the ballard is based on one of my favourate songs.
Camu 05-13-07, 11:10 AM	working on it, don't worry
Delfedd 05-13-07, 12:26 PM	Alright. Because you guys seem to have a vague Idea about what's going on, I have a question. How much AP would the Plagues of Egypt cost? It wouldn't be more than three. Creating a GOD is four AP. And it's probably not several different actions, because God would have to spend a Lot of AP on them. What's reasonable? Of course, this is all hypothetical. Also, I make a motion that interacting with important mortals be one AP. Things like taking artifacts, killing heralds and so on should cost something. Likewise, killing avatars should cost 2 AP so that they have a purpose and aren't just killed off willy nilly.
Evil DM Mk3 05-13-07, 12:32 PM	I had expected to spend 3 AP for a plauge, as in a very virrelant sickness. But that would be for one. Dunno. 3 sounds about right.
Delfedd 05-13-07, 12:35 PM	Naw. I'm talking the plague of frogs, the plague of locusts, and so on. Rain of fire. Really? 3 ap? We can create mountains for two AP. We can create races for 2 AP. Also, that would put God's AP up in the thirties. Also, thanks for bringing more evil into the world. It's always appreciated. Ravenloft, here we come! (Create Deity: Cthulhu)
Camu 05-13-07, 12:36 PM	There, the last of the Seven is in
Evil DM Mk3 05-13-07, 12:38 PM	Also, that would put God's AP up in the thirties. I ment 3 for all of them. And in any case Gods AP:o-o (Best I can do for infinty)
Evil DM Mk3 05-13-07, 12:40 PM	Right come on. Who is your favourate of The Seven and why?
Camu 05-13-07, 12:43 PM	All seven are posted together in the demodand part of the races and culture thread
Delfedd 05-13-07, 12:49 PM	Oh, a new project Idea. Perhaps we could attempt to consolidate and summarize the "summary." I understand this is a daunting task Evil Dm (Weird, i can't call you Kur-ah anymore... :D) but I think if we all did part of it we would be good. EDIT: There are no such things as marlith demons. Sorry.
Evil DM Mk3 05-13-07, 12:52 PM	OK, it takes quite a lot of time to gather the posts in, especialy around sigs ect.
Camu 05-13-07, 12:54 PM	Well I since there were demons in the world, I thought mariliths would exist too
Camu 05-13-07, 01:03 PM	Fine I changed it to succubus, happy now
Evil DM Mk3 05-13-07, 01:07 PM	It should be noted that the Seventh of Seven is strange in the fact that She has a gender. Demonads re-produce asexualy so gender is a non-issue for them exept in her case.
d24478667 05-13-07, 03:23 PM	Just to be clear, everyone is okay with the stewardship of Frostbite until I get back, right?
Evil DM Mk3 05-13-07, 03:25 PM	To be utterly frank I am not... Even though it is me.
d24478667 05-13-07, 03:34 PM	Then what do you suggest? I picked the two players I trusted most not to screw me over; and that is better then silence.
Evil DM Mk3 05-13-07, 03:35 PM	I am just not totaly happy becasue I feel that you may come back and say "That is not what I ment".
d24478667 05-13-07, 03:49 PM	Play as you feel I would. I swear I won't retcon it. I swear by my membership in this; if I have lied, you may have me stop playing (chosen by a vote.).
Evil DM Mk3 05-13-07, 03:51 PM	Jaz?... Mental imadge of Frostbite in tilted hat.
d24478667 05-13-07, 03:53 PM	What? I like jazz and classic rock. Nothing wrong with that.
Evil DM Mk3 05-13-07, 03:53 PM	No, just the mental imadge. Jazzman Dragon. With Sax
d24478667 05-13-07, 04:07 PM	Well, Frostbite would be the vocalist of course. He sings so well that trees sacrifice their wood to make him stuff.
Evil DM Mk3 05-13-07, 04:08 PM	Must Make Heavy Metal And Bagpipes For Giants If I Get A Chance To Do Them.
d24478667 05-13-07, 04:10 PM	That would be awesome; each sentient race having a genre of music. Arctic Rose are gonna get classic rock, you know, The Who, The Beatles, Billy Joel, Joe Cocker, Crosby, Stills, Nash, and Young, stuff like that.
Evil DM Mk3 05-13-07, 04:13 PM	Giant music makes avalanches. Very very low pitch. Huge drums, Babpies and harps. Kinda like low tech death metal.
Return of the Flumph 05-13-07, 04:14 PM	Morkoths are SO getting Disturbed. It just fits them too perfectly. Can you share classic rock with the aquatic elves, though? Octopus' Garden is totally their theme song.
d24478667 05-13-07, 04:17 PM	Yes, yes I can. Perhaps the aquatic elves could teach it to the Arctic Rose, or vice versa. "I'd like to be under the sea, In an octupus's garden, in the shade. He'd let us in, knows where we've been, in his octopus's garden, in the shade."
Evil DM Mk3 05-13-07, 04:23 PM	Sigh, I take it none of you know Man o War?
d24478667 05-13-07, 04:24 PM	The symbiotic mass of organisms? Never heard of music by that name.
Evil DM Mk3 05-13-07, 04:26 PM	No the band Manowar. They did the song I ripped the Ballad off. It is called "Swords into the wind" and goes: I Surrender My Soul Odin Hear My Call One Day I'll Sit Beside Your Throne In Valhalla's Great Hall Like So Many Before Me I'll Die With Honor And Pride The Right Of A Warrior Forever To Fight By Your Side Send A Sign Raise The Sail Wave A Last Goodbye Destiny Is Calling Immortality Be Mine Call The Witch To Cast The Runes, Weave A Magic Spell We Who Die In Battle Are Born Not For Heaven Not For Hell We Are Sons Of Odin The Fire We Burn Inside Is The Legacy Of Warrior Kings Who Reign Above In The Sky I Will Lead The Charge My Sword Into The Wind Sons Of Odin Fight To Die And Live Again Viking Ships Cross The Sea, In Cold Wind, And Rain Sail Into The Black Of Night Magic Stars Our Guiding Light Today The Blood Of Battle Upon My Weapons Will Never Dry Many I'll Send Into The Ground Laughing As They Die. We Are Sons Of Odin The Fire We Burn Inside Is The Legacy Of Warrior Kings Who Reign Above In The Sky I Will Lead The Charge My Sword Into The Wind Sons Of Odin Fight To Die And Live Again Viking Ships Cross The Sea, In Cold Wind, And Rain Sail Into The Black Of Night Magic Stars Our Guiding Light Place My Body On A Ship And Burn It In The Sea Let My Spirit Rise Valkries Carry Me Take Me To Valhalla Where My Brothers Wait For Me Fire Burning To The Sky My Spirit Will Never Die I Will Lead The Charge My Sword Into The Wind Sons Of Odin Fight To Die And Live Again Viking Ships Cross The Sea, In Cold Wind, And Rain Sail Into The Black Of Night Magic Stars Our Guiding Light I Will Lead The Charge My Sword Into The Wind Sons Of Odin Fight To Die And Live Again Viking Ships Cross The Sea, In Cold Wind, And Rain Sail Into The Black Of Night Magic Stars Our Guiding Light And the instramentals make it brilliant battlefield backgournd music fo DnD
d24478667 05-13-07, 04:32 PM	I see. Interesting adaptation.
Evil DM Mk3 05-13-07, 05:16 PM	Right this is my new god. To start next turn. The King of All Tribes. Lesser Deiaty. [DvR]6 AP:3 Class: Pariagon Storm Giant with 10 class levels (varies by current king) Domains:Strength Alignment:Neutral good Holy symbol:Golden hammer. Favoured weapon:Maul (as a dwarven warhammer but Bludgeoning) The King (or Queen) of All Tribes is a physical person, much like the Egiptian Pharo. There is no need for an avatar, nor can one be made. He cannot evolve physicaly, gain DvR or take class levels as all of these relliy on a percistent form on the other hand he is a living person and able to interact directly with mortals..
d24478667 05-13-07, 05:36 PM	Cool, but are you sure you want those restrictions?
Evil DM Mk3 05-13-07, 05:38 PM	Well the basicly free avatar and the death resistance (you kill him and the next one comes along) has to be worth somthing.
d24478667 05-13-07, 05:39 PM	That is true.. I may have Frostbite develop an inferiority complex; have him think he is much weaker then Glykllivar, and think he doesn't deserve her as he is gaining power and doesn't realize it until they become equals.
Delfedd 05-13-07, 06:09 PM	OK. Wow Evil DM. That is awesome. But where'd he come from?
Evil DM Mk3 05-13-07, 06:10 PM	"And the energy that flowed from the dead god entred the world through his favourate places, the mountains and hill, the ice peaks and volcanoes. It came together and became as one, and one became as myriad." That would be both the god (the one) and giant races (all good ATM) (the myriad) created together. A little weak I know but once again teh race is differant. Now giants are the powerful avenger's of good, first created from raw divine energy, their god their king, rather than their creator. You might have missed this. Riverrock has said he thinks it is ok.
Return of the Flumph 05-13-07, 06:16 PM	That is true.. I may have Frostbite develop an inferiority complex; have him think he is much weaker then Glykllivar, and think he doesn't deserve her as he is gaining power and doesn't realize it until they become equals. The jazz music is not helping.
Delfedd 05-13-07, 06:23 PM	. The Apendix, Realm of Guulshk, master of sickness. Just so you guys know, that made me laugh out loud. :rofl: :pile: :D :evillaugh
Evil DM Mk3 05-13-07, 06:24 PM	So do you ahve a favourate one of the seven?
d24478667 05-13-07, 06:29 PM	The jazz music is not helping. Would you believe I actually forgot about that when I thought about the inferiority complex?
Delfedd 05-13-07, 06:36 PM	I don't really know what the heck they are. But the fact that he named his home Apendix makes me laugh.
Evil DM Mk3 05-13-07, 06:37 PM	I don't really know what the heck they are. But the fact that he named his home Apendix makes me laugh.The are the equiveland of Mephostophalise and the gang. Very powerful uniquly formed outsiders. And no, his home IS the apendix. The namelss realm is made up of a massively scaled up angel remember. Turns out angels have apendixes.
Delfedd 05-13-07, 06:41 PM	Oh. But... he called it apendix! :D Laughter. So are you ever going to get to the evil versus evil thing?
Evil DM Mk3 05-13-07, 06:43 PM	Well Blight is currently out of AP and in any case he has never met Morintu has he?
d24478667 05-13-07, 06:49 PM	Worm and the dragon.. one of those is obviously Morintu, he could be called either. But I can't figure out the other one.
Delfedd 05-13-07, 06:50 PM	Naw. But I mean, the first thing you do upon being evil versus evil is creating who is essentially mephistopholes and co...
Camu 05-13-07, 06:52 PM	Blight isn't evil vs evil, Ooulzoth is.
Evil DM Mk3 05-13-07, 06:59 PM	Hang on, a dragon and a worm. And you think one is Morintu? Are you sure?
Delfedd 05-13-07, 07:01 PM	Lol. Maybe you should PM him what you mean. How many people are currently in the Tydyw? Like... one? Because I'm thinking of moving a whole buttload of devils into TyDyw. This will change the planes alignment from (presumably) neutral to Lawful and evil. Also, Where do you live frostbite? your arctic rose lizardfolks suffered when the sun went out, but sometimes they're in Tydyw. Do some of them live in TyDyw?
Evil DM Mk3 05-13-07, 07:05 PM	Let him stew in ignorance. BLight is simply an evil god that thinks he exists to make good stronger.
d24478667 05-13-07, 07:26 PM	They all live in TyDyw. Thing is, Frostbite's plane in TyDyw mirrors the prime material. So what happens in the prime material affects his portion of TyDyw. Oh, and as far as I know, 3 gods are in TyDyw. Arteheyn, Frostbite, and Lexius.
Delfedd 05-13-07, 07:41 PM	Ah. So... why didn't you just... um... make there be a sun? And not let your people die?
d24478667 05-13-07, 07:47 PM	On the material? That would have made Rythe'al an enemy of mine. Earlier, anyways. On TyDyw? I didn't think of it; also, I may have made an enemy then. Remember, at that time Frostbite was trying to be a diplomat between all the gods.
jamvid 05-13-07, 10:17 PM	On the material? That would have made Rythe'al an enemy of mine. Earlier, anyways. On TyDyw? I didn't think of it; also, I may have made an enemy then. Remember, at that time Frostbite was trying to be a diplomat between all the gods. ((Morintu, I think you should eat him for that)) :D
Delfedd 05-13-07, 10:19 PM	Done. :D Alright. Fair enough. We all have "Ah-DUH" moments. Does it bother anyone else that we're being plotted about right under our noses? I mean, it's fine when it's PMs, because you don't see it. But I mean, we're not dumb. Anywho, that was an ILLUSION spell. Not an actual "Summon god XVII"
d24478667 05-14-07, 06:25 AM	So I get eaaten because I answer a question truthfully? I think Delfedd was joking, and I think jamvid was too, but that would be really damn screwed up. And it is perfectly natural to not trust a worshiper of a god who eats other gods. What if the worshiper shares this practice of cannibalism? Then we (the party) would be screwed.
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Evil DM Mk3 05-14-07, 09:19 AM	Oh and I want to make it clear, I have looked over the posts earleir and it isn't clear. Blight still has the Angel's heart and can use it to move the angel. He can't unpin it but for example he could get it to swing it's fist (it was stripped naked, the sword and bow locked in Blight's vault) at invaders or even use it's spell like abilites over the whole of the body area. However this sort of thing would cause huge casulaties in places such as the setelmentsi in the joints. So regardless of weather gods are very powerful in their own planes or not, Blight IS, ok?
Delfedd 05-14-07, 02:39 PM	Here's the thing... everyone else is level one, you're level 9. Not quite fair.
Evil DM Mk3 05-14-07, 02:40 PM	Also ancient and cynical, but I take the point.
Anuvrix 05-14-07, 03:03 PM	I was just reading through the BoVD and the BoED, and came accross the Dark Speech and Creation Language. I was windering, do dieties have these powers? If so, how many words, and which powers? this is for LoC and for personal informational poll, Can gods use the languages without porblem and can they use all of them?
Evil DM Mk3 05-14-07, 03:15 PM	Well there is a no BoVD rule...
Delfedd 05-14-07, 03:25 PM	Dark speech is in a few different books.
Evil DM Mk3 05-14-07, 03:27 PM	I would imadgine that they where bound up in the "True Speach" wich presumable Abusul-Rote used to make the universe.
ewancummins 05-14-07, 03:31 PM	I hope we keep the no BoVD rule.
Camu 05-14-07, 03:54 PM	does that include the monsters from BoVD, since I used the Kythons from that book
ewancummins 05-14-07, 03:57 PM	Kythons? Are they similiar to the old chain devils?
Return of the Flumph 05-14-07, 03:59 PM	Kythons? Are they similiar to the old chain devils? Spelled similar. Otherwise no. Kythons and Kytons are different monsters. I love both of them, so I hope both critters make it into the world eventually.
Camu 05-14-07, 03:59 PM	not at all, there a type of insectlike abberations, created by demons who got stuck on the material plane. (well in the BoVD version) In our game it's a little different I posted there creation here: http://boards1.wizards.com/showpost.php?p=12367399&postcount=1034
ewancummins 05-14-07, 04:04 PM	Kytons[ as in chain devils] have Morintu written all over them. As far as the other guys go, I don't care about the no BoVD rule for your Kythons, as they are different from the standard ones. I just don't want to see all the silliness of vile feats, vile PrCs, and other assorted vile silliness infect the world. The world is evil dominated enough already!:P :D
Camu 05-14-07, 04:07 PM	I took the word vile from it and made it a name for one of my characters;)
Evil DM Mk3 05-14-07, 04:08 PM	Wait, hang on, where is the mortal hunter PrC? Sounds a little BoVD but I am not in possestion of that wodge of loo paper...
Evil DM Mk3 05-14-07, 04:09 PM	*Ponders asking to allow The King of All Tribes to come into existance this turn as 1. Most of his AP would have to go on the giant races and 2. Kur-ah spend 0 AP on things that affected him this turn.* *Decides riverrock would never allow it.*
Return of the Flumph 05-14-07, 04:09 PM	Agreed. The BOVD/ED take on cosmology and morality are iffy at best, and ABSOLUTELY out of place in the moral relativism and pragmatism of this homebrew. Keep the monsters and spells, but leave out the philosophical craziness.
ewancummins 05-14-07, 04:11 PM	The only thing I dislike more than BoVD is probably BoED. Vile is a slightly silly name, but so is Appendix! A little silliness is okay, it lightens things up. Just please spare us any mention of a demodand lord ruling the dread realm of Colon!:D
Return of the Flumph 05-14-07, 04:12 PM	Colon? Ha. Its the Dark Lord of the Fiendish Principality of Upper Duodenum you should be worrying about!
ewancummins 05-14-07, 04:14 PM	Ick.
Evil DM Mk3 05-14-07, 04:16 PM	Where are standing on Good and Evil overall? What about undead? As I ahve read so far from post the answers seem to be: Evil and Good may be absolute (evil spells are EVIL, regardless of how they are used) but alignment is a differant animal, based puerly on motives, not actions. An Evil wizard can use Good Spells and it would be a Good act, as well as an Evil one if used for Evil ends, but it is WHY he does it that detemines AL. I am taking this from Amon and various other gods behaviour. The sun was taken for Good motives, but was NOT a Good act. Also Undead seem to be dark and dangerous, their creation may even be Evil but if we take the above as correct then they can exist for Good reasons. Just my two copper. And the way I run my games. (It is possible in my games to be evil if you are a sick pervert, even if you never have enough couradge to do anything evil and only dream about it and good if you live in an evil society but do nothing about it becasue you are afraid. It allwasy seems to me that only the brave can have alignment in DnD becasue you have to DO things).
Evil DM Mk3 05-14-07, 04:19 PM	FOR THE LAST TIME!:) His name is Guulshk and he has a lab in the Apendix of the Angel. Sensable place, fairly spacious, isolated and rather rare in the body that it has only one way in and out. Good greif :rolleyes:
Camu 05-14-07, 04:37 PM	Vile is a slightly silly name I lost a little bit of inspiration on creating him, so i took some easy thing to name him. It's more of a title then a name anyway. He is pretty vile you know
ewancummins 05-14-07, 04:53 PM	Only joking. Vile is fine.
ewancummins 05-14-07, 05:00 PM	Lizardmen invented jazz??????????????????? That is weird. Weird in a way that is so very right! People thought I was strange for bringing in myconids.
d24478667 05-14-07, 05:02 PM	That is weird. Weird in a way that is so very right! Just like me ;)
Evil DM Mk3 05-14-07, 05:02 PM	I have allready forcast death metal for Giants...
ewancummins 05-14-07, 05:24 PM	Music of the various races created by Arteheyn: Tritons- Tritons' music is often faintly sad and evokes the ancient days of the ocean, before the Long Night and before wars and discords arose among the sea peoples. Conches, bells, and water harps[ huge bone and wire harps that vibrate and sound to the passing currents- not unlike an aeolian harp responds to breezes] are the main intruments. Singing and humming vocaliztions are at the center of most musical pieces. Green Lizardfolk- Drums of all sorts are commonly employed . Lizard lips are not well suited to playing woodwinds, so they don't usually play such intruments. Stringed instruments include a sort of fiddle, adopted from a human design. Rattles are popular, being mostly made of bone or shells. Bards may recite a spoken tale to the accompaniment of music, but singing as other races think of it is not common. Musicians play in a circle, facing in for ceremonies, and facing out for celebrations. Music is mostly backdrop for a storyteller entertaining a crowd, or a part of religious rituals. Entertainment music is less formal than ritual music. It often includes fast paced drumming and wild dances. Myconids- As noted, myconids do not have music, as such. Their weird , silent dances and hallucinatory displays are confusing and sometimes frightening to members of other races.
Evil DM Mk3 05-14-07, 05:48 PM	OK I have just read the notice about the forum being down for 25 hours. This combined with my personal comitments means I cannot turn the month onwards untill Sunday morning where I am. So the next week will have to start then. Any questions?
ewancummins 05-14-07, 06:28 PM	Sunday works for me. We can use the interim period to do more RP, divine and otherwise.
Kirtanus_Albacron 05-14-07, 06:41 PM	Emo music for the Elves Just Kidding:) On a more serious note, I vote that you need a players consent for their deity to be killed. Being Maimed or tortured is fine. I also support the creation of random tables for the races, so that they aren't used solely as pawns on a chess boards. Sunday works for me too.
d24478667 05-14-07, 06:48 PM	As you know, Sunday is better for me then Thursday; looks like my oath was not needed.
ewancummins 05-14-07, 07:02 PM	I vote against random tables. Instead I urge cooperation in developing plots and RP involving the various races acting not as monolithic blocks, but rather as nations and tribes. Plus, you can always use AP to guide someone else's race. Some races, like demodands are tied to a specific god as servitors. Others are not. Humans are wide open for everyone to use, as I see it.
Evil DM Mk3 05-14-07, 07:08 PM	Yay things happened as I Intended!
d24478667 05-14-07, 08:35 PM	Its a shame we'll have to stop the construction roleplays early. Unless someone wants to play the shamans?
ewancummins 05-14-07, 08:47 PM	I'll play the shamans, if no one else takes you up on it. I'll just post updates of how the project is going over the long years of the divine month.
ewancummins 05-14-07, 09:01 PM	I recall how Kur-ah had sent weirds out as advisers to help the mortal races. I figure dwarves would encounter someone other than elves at some point. One band of dwarves[ not RPing the RACE, just a small group] has met earth weirds and made an alliance of sorts. The dwarves can get a little jumpt in stonecunning and crafts from applying the knowledge the weirds give them, It's not that the wierds are teaching them to craft or mine- but rather, they are answering all sorts of questions about geology and properties of metals, that sort of thing. This will speed up the dwarves own development of what they already have- metal and stone craft. The innovations will appear slowly, unless a god gets involved. They will probably spread to other dwarf settlements as the divine months roll past. Does anyone object to this? I figure there is some growth in learning, without direct divine intervention. BTW, can I get farming in my portfolio? I did spend AP to teach people to grow food, after all. More than once, I think.
d24478667 05-14-07, 09:27 PM	I request Community again. Also, can Frostbite's favored weapon be changed to Glacieso's Eye (longbow)? And, do you think that if at the end of this, we sent it to WotC, that they'd publish it? If not, we could publish it as a PDF or something.. I just want to distribute this to the masses, free or not. I bet not many people look at this.
ewancummins 05-14-07, 09:43 PM	Arteheyn has Community. I don't know that there is a rule preventing more than one god at a time holding a domain, though. I seem to recall a couple of gods holding Sun and also two with Time[check out the official list].
d24478667 05-14-07, 09:46 PM	There is no rule against it; it is just harder. But Frostbite had tried to make an overarching network between all gods; he created symbiosis. I also have Community in my profile, so I assume that it is also to be in my domain list.
riverrock 05-14-07, 09:51 PM	Just so everyone is clear: two deities can possess the same domain at a time. It's just a little harder to get a domain the second time around. I've been a little lax on updating the descriptions, but I will try to get to that soon.
Delfedd 05-14-07, 09:56 PM	Um... I do not want to wait an entire half of a week to get a new turn. I would prefer either to start it on wednesday morning or friday afternoon. Please. Weekends aren't that good for me. And again Evil Dm, our schedule shouldn't have to revolve around yours. I might just start a new turn anyway.
ewancummins 05-14-07, 10:01 PM	Makes sense. BTW, I am assuming that the building project will take the rest of this divine month. That translate as X years- a long time in any case. :) It has a little divine help, but this is pretty much a mortal effort. I envision the coral city/palace as a center of the developing underwater civilization. It's multiracial, with all sea races but the morkoth being represented[ they haven't been purposely excluded, but it hardly seems to me like something they'd be into]. Uluas plans on installing a triton as monarch, possibly himself. Maybe someone else. The unexpected help of the Arctic Rose is cool. Now it will also be a city with ties to the air breathing races. Perhaps an entrepot to the underwater realms. We should come up with a name for the place.
ewancummins 05-14-07, 10:05 PM	As far as new months goes, I'm up for anytime- but let's settle it in advance. We should all know when the next month starts. Possibly having it start at a set time? The old way of waiting for every god to act went out when Ahuizotl vanished from play, after all. Or is there one guy in charge of months? I hope my suggestion doesn't step on anyone's toes.
Return of the Flumph 05-14-07, 10:10 PM	New month should start Wednsday.
Delfedd 05-14-07, 10:10 PM	I'm going to say Wednesday at 7 am Eastern. What can I say? I like coming home to stuff. And the break for the boards will give us time to plan what we're going to do with the rest of our turn. Dude... Kyrinian... that crown is basically the monolith! Although not really. It's like... one guy gets really smart, (re)invents fire, wheels, spears, and whatnot. These tools allow the race to place higher abilities in the non-physical ability scores. I want the kobolds to take the crown, but I've been in the spotlight for a while now. I'm stepping back slowly.
ewancummins 05-14-07, 11:33 PM	The crown is sweet! Now, who should get it? My vote is for a member of one of the newly created races to find it. A human, elf, or dwarf. Probably not an elf, since they are always so uber, it makes me sick.;) A human would be cool. Humans are also not under the control or strong influence of any of the gods. They are sort of a ''neutral'' race. The crown wouldn't remain in the possession of one person forever, I'm sure. It would get stolen, lost, found again, etc. over the centuries.
ewancummins 05-14-07, 11:39 PM	How many people are playing two gods?
ewancummins 05-14-07, 11:52 PM	I ask because I'll happily play the second ''daughter'' of Darrius, Alusia's weaker sister. She was a goddess of courage, and good aligned to boot. I'm working on the assumption no one is on the waiting list , so it's just us chickens. Anyone have an issue with a new deity, and me playing two at once? Riverrock?
riverrock 05-14-07, 11:55 PM	Actually- some one offered to play that deity! But I have not heard back from them since.
ewancummins 05-15-07, 12:24 AM	Riverrock, how's this: Britmara Shield sister, Walker on the High Parapet [DR:?] ? -deity Crusader level ? Symbol: A small bird perched atop a upright sword's point, against a background formed by an azure shield clustered with seven silver stars. Home: Gorgild [for now, she will likely move, unless her sister agrees to allow her room] Alignment: Neutral Good Domain: Courage Portfolio: courage , hope, defense of the weak and the innocent Worshippers: good folk beset by evil, soldiers entering righteous battle, crusaders and zealots who oppose evil Favored weapon: Hope Rekindled , a silvery longsword Avatar: Her avatar appears as a female humanoid , beautiful and athletic with a celestial aura about her. She wears partial plate and mail armor of graceful and lightweight design. A shield is strapped on her left arm. She carries Hope Rekindled at her side. [Think of the MM1 image of the ghaele eladrin, that's close]. Creatures Created: nothing yet -this is assuming the person who offered to play this slot has not responded in some time, and is likely out. I will happily spend the AP to make a new god, later, to let that guy in on the action, if need be. Not only do we get a new good deity[albeit a not too powerful one, she's somehwat weaker than Alusia] , we get another female deity. We could use both, I think. I took crusader as a class to reflect how Alusia has all her levels as warblade. We'd both be ToB deities. Sublime Way, anyone? It fits her devotion to the cause of good, as well.
Evil DM Mk3 05-15-07, 04:53 AM	7am EST would make it about noon where I am. Not exactly ideal but I shall see what I can do. I would point out that everyone else who posted was happy to deal with it. Just not you. And Delfedd don't you dare do it instead of me again or I will get angry. Riverrock should be able to empathise. On another note seeing as we have had several votes to that effect and none against it I will be assuming that no killing without concent is now a rule. Oh and I will only use ToB material in my games once my blood has stoped flowing in my veins, so alterantive levels would be nice. Just a note. As for publishing, I dobt WotC would do it but on the other hand the PDF could do well, so long as we give everyone who is still active the opertunity to do their bits themselves.
Evil DM Mk3 05-15-07, 05:01 AM	Guys I have a creepy idea. What if a covey of sea hags where to offer assistance against the attackers and to finish the temple under one condition. An anti-chamber to Father Blight. Just an idea, but you have mentioned him already and there are reasons to supose he is active around there, not specificaly stated yet but there are. (Also Woot! Blight's name has entred common parlance. This is exactly what I was hoping for, becoming one of the most known gods, the unversal boogyman.)
Delfedd 05-15-07, 05:42 AM	Wow... What was I thinking Last night? 7 am Est is when I'm at school. I knew that too. Anyway. More like 6 am. I don't see why it'd be so bad. I mean, the whole point of having it be on a set date is so we know when it is. Anyway, again, this is not your game. So If you wish to change Britmara's class to something else, you should. Should we put it to a vote?
Delfedd 05-15-07, 06:33 AM	Ewan, I like that Idea. I can imagine each of the 8 core races recieving an artifact at one time. This is what makes them core races. Although I'm not sure if this will work out. Perhaps there's feats for being a descendant of someone who used an artifact. Also, I'm thinking of remaking the map by upgrading agent graves map. The map is on the first thread. Is there anything I should know for it terainwise?
d24478667 05-15-07, 06:45 AM	Friday is much, much better for me.
Evil DM Mk3 05-15-07, 07:12 AM	Whilst, as you keep noting, this is not my game the months are my responcibility. Turning over when you sugest is not possible for me, noon I could just about manadge if I culd get to a university open acess computer (and risk getting banned from their machines henceforth for non-univeristy work) but eariler in the day I am in an exam. BTW Ewan we do ahve a set time, we have changed every week for a long time on that set time, but the server for his forum will be down at that time. I could just about manadge Friday. Also why, if this is not ment to "revolve around my schedule" should it reveolve around yours?
Evil DM Mk3 05-15-07, 07:15 AM	Also where the BOOP did Plainsrunners come from? They are not referanced in the main thread anywhere I can find. Nor is it clear what race they are. If they are humans the such a massive diveragance from their original culture, as well as declarations as to what other races have done, should require AP being spent.
Return of the Flumph 05-15-07, 07:40 AM	I distinctly remember Icoscol finding a group of humans and turning their chief into a death knight. It was awhile ago, but it happened. Did you spend the 2 AP on that? If not, just do it now and it won't be a big deal.
Evil DM Mk3 05-15-07, 07:44 AM	Is that them? My mistake then, although I find the referance about hourses (when the others where taught farming and animal husbandry by the goddess in charge and in any case most humans have very advanced cultural imput from the vessel's crew) a bit suspect.
Return of the Flumph 05-15-07, 07:47 AM	I think the vessel's crew would know about animal husbandry. Its probably safe to say that they've taught the other human tribes a reasonable amount of things.
Evil DM Mk3 05-15-07, 07:59 AM	Agreed. I mean it may have taken a bit of time to get to work but they knew waht was possible, even if they did not know all the deatails. I supose it is down to Ewan to say where hourses are as he made them. On another note. Due to my desire not to get kicked off the univeristy computers (and possibly my degree, not the first offence) I will ask RotF to roll on our month. Blight will be controled by RotF. I will ask him to post the maden post for my second deiaty too, which I will PM to him. And as I posted earlier and got little responce we do need to sort out several game issues and apparent contradictions and hypocracies.
ewancummins 05-15-07, 09:40 AM	Britmara is a crusader. ToB is most definitely in play, as several gods have taken martial adept levels. That being so, if you prefer not to use it in your own games, replace those with paladin levels[ ignoring the alignment conflict, I suppose]. Horses were smallish pony types when first I created them, long ago. Lamarckian evolution and selective breeding could easily have altered that by now. They lived on the margins of the forest, but have since probably moved out onto the open grasslands. Yeah, I like Lamarck. Aquired traits evolution makes sense in D&D , at least IMHO. ;) Explains all those annoying elf subraces!!!:P
Evil DM Mk3 05-15-07, 09:42 AM	Wekk I think Darwin makes sence where tampering gods are not involved. Where they are involved, well somone just threw out the rule book didn't they. And elves = meddling gods. And thank you BTW. I mostly asked seeing as I have NO IDEA what those classes can do.
ewancummins 05-15-07, 09:52 AM	Ugh, silly Darwin. Silly elves, too. ;) These elves are not ''meddling gods'' , they are arboreal primitives who eat baby dwarves because they don't realize that dwarves are a potentially friendly thinking race. They are actually a bit LESS advanced than some of the human tribes. That makes my heart warm. I hate holier than thou, high and mighty elves who are somehow better than everyone else at everything else that counts. Best at magic, great at fighting, make better armor and weapons than dwarves,great singing voices, etc. Cannot stand all that ''we are the delightful firstborn of the gods, tra la la la la, watch our magnificent elven moondance or we will shun you!'' Yucko.;) :P :D
Evil DM Mk3 05-15-07, 09:56 AM	I know, that is why I want to keep my Celtic inspired giants too. These giants are powerful, spiritual but ultimately violent towards those who would exploit and harm others. I hesitate to draw real life connections but there are several real world groups past and present, govermental and relegious, who have had simmialr overall ideas.
ewancummins 05-15-07, 10:01 AM	Horses could live mainly on the eastern side, if you like. Geography? Hmm.. Well , Artheheyn's garden is in the central jungle created by Ahuizotl, hidden away. The great swamp where the lizards and swampers dwell is on the western side of the mountains, in a low valley. The Waste [ ala Sandstorm] is wherever you can fit in a big desert, probably the interior of one of the large landmasses. Daskotan was marked , I think. It's the large forest where the gnolls, worgs, and lingering Athach live. Up north, I remember that much. I laced rivers over much of the world. Just ad them where you like. Some areas where left dry or unconnected to the rivers, anyway. The fertile plain where the ankhegs live is southwest of the central mountains and great rift of Ahuizotl. That's as best as I can recall. Just the parts I made.
ewancummins 05-15-07, 10:05 AM	Your take on giants is cool. I was going to create giants, but now I will make something else.
Camu 05-15-07, 12:10 PM	Hey Delfedd, I was wondering what the stats are for the Abel and Abeloks, because they are a homebrew race, or are they from a book I don't know about?
Evil DM Mk3 05-15-07, 12:12 PM	I did ask that a while ago...
Return of the Flumph 05-15-07, 01:16 PM	The able-spawn use the Spawn of Kyuss stats. Abelocks use the stat block for a big worm monster...name started with a V. I think both are in the fiend folio. Not sure what stats he's using for the actual bugs, though.
Evil DM Mk3 05-15-07, 01:19 PM	I can't seem to find either...
Camu 05-15-07, 01:40 PM	found it, spawn of kyuss is in MMII the only worm like undead in fiend folio is the Ulgurstasta
Evil DM Mk3 05-15-07, 01:45 PM	I see. Somehow they feel a bit off for a fallen LE wind god but there we are... If that creature is indeed Ulgurstasta I supose that makes sence.
Delfedd 05-15-07, 01:57 PM	Yeah. Although as I mentioned, the Abeloks look like giants. Anyway, yes the plainrunners are humans. I should have mentioned that. I made them an issolated society, so I imagined that they'd be quite different than the "base" humans, due to isolation. Anyway, I can change it again. And probably mention the whole death knight thing. Yeah, I posted it early in the morning before school.
Evil DM Mk3 05-15-07, 02:04 PM	No I quite liek aht you have done overall, I was just a little lost on the whoel plainrunners thing. Here is an idea, the reason for the differant society is this. No crew memebers joined them. Totaly differant cultural imput. What do they do about Psions?
Delfedd 05-15-07, 02:41 PM	Oh, thanks. I'll add the fact that they're humans. And put the Death Knight in.
Camu 05-15-07, 02:45 PM	posted kythons in the race & religion thread
Delfedd 05-15-07, 03:19 PM	posted the stats for the Abels. Off to fix the plainrunners.
Evil DM Mk3 05-15-07, 03:23 PM	I get the impression that the air is going to full of the sound of hive minds soon... Speaking as Blight: Buhahahaha Speaking as if I where living on this world: Well they might wipe each other out...
Delfedd 05-15-07, 03:39 PM	nonono. Abels have No hive mind. The rule is by threat of infertility. And anyway, they might work together. :D Updated plainrunners. So... if no one is going to take the crown, I may have the plainrunners run across it. They'll be amazed by the metal in it, let alone the magic.
Evil DM Mk3 05-15-07, 03:40 PM	OK, what about the sound of hives in the air? Where is the crown anyway? Not that I am in control of a race that really fits ATM. Oh and I rather think that is unlikey don't you? No reason to get along at all really. Mind you a certain level of immunity to each other might cut down on suspicions. Then again, Slaughterkings...
Delfedd 05-15-07, 03:49 PM	Well it says that kyrinian just placed it down on the material. Maybe he meant for anyone who wanted it to get it. Or anyone who should get it plotwise. Well, it could work for the Giants. They'd value the stat boosts of the crown.
Evil DM Mk3 05-15-07, 03:50 PM	Giants are not about yet though. Mind you the whole Divine King = Crown thign might be good. For the life of me though I can't find the crown's stats. What do you think of the Giant culture Delfedd?
Delfedd 05-15-07, 03:54 PM	I really enjoy the whole idea of the giants. They seem like a good race to corrupt. :D But really, the giants are good and different. I LOVE the idea of the divine king. By the way, i'm not sure how much of a boon a +2 bonus is going to be to a GOD. :D
Evil DM Mk3 05-15-07, 03:55 PM	I really enjoy the whole idea of the giants. They seem like a good race to corrupt. :D But really, the giants are good and different. I LOVE the idea of the divine king. By the way, i'm not sure how much of a boon a +2 bonus is going to be to a GOD. :D Yet again however I cannot find the stats... Which thread are they on? Certainly no other giant would wear it.
Delfedd 05-15-07, 03:57 PM	Guess what I found? Not me. These are the descriptions of the first two artifacts. Thunderblade Thunderblade is a bastard sword of immense power. When it is drawn, thunder crackles in the far off distance. Forged into it's core is the very essence of a storm, the crackling lightning and stormy thunder. The hilt of the sword is three see serpents intertwining. Bastard Sword +5 Shocking Burst sword. Call lightning 3/day, Shatter 3/day Control Weather 3/day cl 20 Two pieces Call lightning 4/day, shatter 4/day, control weather 4/day. Crown of stars: +2 int, wis, & cha. Fly 6/day, maximized magic missile 4/day. Two pieces +3 Int, wis, & cha. Overland flight 4/day, Fly 8/day, Maximized magic missile 5/day Sorry, I had to trundle through the forums. Ooh, look! The fly abilities aren't "self only." Hmm...
Evil DM Mk3 05-15-07, 03:59 PM	Hey no need for the sarcasm, there is now officialy a lot to keep track of. No I think I will pass. For one thing if it was used by teh Giants it would render the clear point of the artifacts utterly moot. No way you can nab it off a god's head really...
Evil DM Mk3 05-15-07, 04:01 PM	I supose a Hag could find it...
Delfedd 05-15-07, 04:09 PM	Nono, not being sarcastic. Lets wait untill at least tomorrow before we start talking about who gets the crown. If we're the only people who are interested, lets go into PM about it. I think that, since humans are such N00bs, we might need to give them the kick start they need to get started. Humans are the dominant race by the third race. Or... are they? ooh... interesting possibilities opening up!
Evil DM Mk3 05-15-07, 04:15 PM	I gave humans a kick start, remember? Also please remeber I can't be around tomorrow. Reacall that whole mess? Anyway I think I will wait for another to come along. Maybe somthing a little less ideal for another race.
Delfedd 05-15-07, 04:21 PM	Oh yeah... time machine/space ship thing. I forgot.
Destrieth 05-15-07, 06:34 PM	Bleargh, sorry for my two-day disappearance. Man you people fill the thread fast. Ewan > Alusia would totally jive with her little sister hanging around. Alusia is about as evil as Morintu but she has a soft spot for family. Britmara could certainly use Gorgild as her home until she gets the AP to craft her own plane. EDIT: Heck, since Demis start out with what, 2 AP a turn, Alusia could loan Britmara one AP for plane creation. Whatever you want to do. (I would certainly favor Ewan playing the deity over some new guy, simply because Ewan is awesome.)
Camu 05-15-07, 06:40 PM	well I'm going to post the conversation here, so we don't spam the rae &religion thread with this well firstly i didn't know that it was untolerated to base stuff on non D&D stuff. secondly, I always found that the kythons where based on the tyranids form warhammer, the zerg too by the way, so about being unoriginal i'll only say this. it's kind of hard to undo the damage done, since you will always see them as something based on the zerg, so maybe i should just delete them then.
Delfedd 05-15-07, 06:50 PM	Change them entirely. Take away their appearance as Zerg. Make them look like.... I dunno... six legged dogs? I have no idea.
Camu 05-15-07, 06:54 PM	I took a drastic decision, and deleted my Kython post in the Race & Religion thread. I will repost them once I've completely rewriten them, with a complete new setup. They will only be loosely based on the ones from BoVD, but the rest will be original stuffno more borowed stuff out of other games/universes. The heralds name will also change. I hope this will erase the insident and will make the game enjoyable again for all.
Return of the Flumph 05-15-07, 08:08 PM	It wasn't a matter of making the game unenjoyable. It was a matter of NOT having the kythons be transparent and lame. The kythons do draw inspiration from such sources as the xenomorphs and probably tyrranids, true. So do the zerg. But making a similar creature is different from actually ripping off names, units, and special attacks word for word. The zerg drones growing into hive structures is UNIQUELY zerg. Other creatures in other games might have something somewhat similar, but not the exact same. If you want the kythons to be like the zerg, by all means make them like the zerg. But keep the word "like" in there.
ewancummins 05-15-07, 08:16 PM	:) Well, I like the new version of the kythons better, anyway. Army ants rock! Zerg are from Starcraft, yes? I originally thought you meant zern. They are cool abberations from MM IV. They make monsters by twisting other lifeforms into new shapes. Very cool.
Return of the Flumph 05-15-07, 08:18 PM	:) Zerg are from Starcraft, yes? Yup.
Delfedd 05-15-07, 11:36 PM	Guess what I did? http://img69.imageshack.us/img69/4940/lordsofcreationon1.th.jpg (http://img69.imageshack.us/my.php?image=lordsofcreationon1.jpg) I'm also going to post it with my first post in the OOC so you don't have to go digging through the forums to find it.
Camu 05-16-07, 02:11 AM	cool map
Evil DM Mk3 05-16-07, 05:34 AM	Just swinging by between exams. First GREAT MAP! Oficial woot here. Oh I forgot to tell you where the grand library (yes it still exists) is. South of the Huge mountain is the area I described. The protections are still working fine BTW, so it is a very handy sancuary. Second I am all for referances to other media. BUT the referance went a little far. The main reason for my concern is a simmialr idea I had once, I overused flavour from a Doctor Who race (Sontarons) and the game literaly drowned in TARDIS puns. And Sontarons are hardly mainstream knwoaldge. Zerg are. Otherwise what you have done rocks. It is a matter of evoking the flavour, not cloning the whole shebang. I felt the herald name was a fitting tribute, but the racial simialrites started to overstep the line a little. Why not try basing them off those ants tahtlive in rainforests, Kythons don't build hives, the Broodlings, juviniles and adults stand on top of each otehr until they BECOME a hive. When the food runs out they dismantle and move off. Makes attacking them kinda scary... The whole damned building is going to start attacking. I liked the reavers too. On another note are we using Taint rules? If we are then please not that the Nameless realms is very heavily tainted (BOTH).
Delfedd 05-16-07, 05:36 AM	Thank you. I think that I'm mostly going to update the map once a week. OK, things to fix 1) Library: Just south of Kur-ah's mountain. 2) Giants: South chasm, spread over the east and west. 3) Solanthi plateau:
Evil DM Mk3 05-16-07, 05:40 AM	Giant tribes to come into being on the centeral mountains BTW. Theya re likely to be more to the south where crossign teh casm is feasable by climbing. Mostly on the the west side though some (inc the Eldrich trbe) will be on the east side. They may bridge it at a later date. Obviously they are likely to end up more spread ut than other races due to larger size, larger terratory needs and so on.
Delfedd 05-16-07, 06:01 AM	OK. I realized I forgot the solanthi plateau entirely. I'll add it for next week. I like my touch for the elves. They don't have any borders, just "Don't go here or we'll eat your babies."
Camu 05-16-07, 09:59 AM	Ok, I have reposted the kythons. I kept the heralds name as it was, but the rest is adapted a bid I wrote a little more on there behavior, and tossed out a couple of types, like the detrachan version. I'm still gonna edit it a few times, when i get some new idea's for them. But now i think they are original enough to start entering the ingame forum for real.
Evil DM Mk3 05-16-07, 10:46 AM	Oh and the human space vessel is still being used as setelment by the Order of the Eightfold Circle and The Brotherhood of the Mind. Never pinned down where cause the god that was involved got suddenly murdered.
Evil DM Mk3 05-16-07, 10:51 AM	OK I really like that new flavour. It is still simmilar. It still has that feel, but it is unique. EDIT:Oh, and ooops...
Camu 05-16-07, 11:19 AM	Ok, kythons have entered the material plane again, and there very busy at the moment :devil:
Delfedd 05-16-07, 01:34 PM	About the "sieges rarely end well for the defender" comment... why then would ANYONE ever do a siege? Why would anyone build castles? Heck, why would anyone build any building at all? It's not like the abel's will ever run out of food. I mean... they can eat ROCKS. They can eat DIRT. Anyway. By the way, is there a reason for their attack?
Evil DM Mk3 05-16-07, 01:43 PM	OK so I had forgotten about the eating rocks thing. Mind you too much of that could pose problems. About seiges. You avoid them if you can. They take forever. They drain resorces. They limit options. They are only massively better than open warfare if you are utterly outclassed. But they do let you hold an area with only a small force. Your oponet cannot ignore your fortification. They cannot march to your capitol and ignore the four or so castles on the way. They HAVE to deal with them. If the enamy is on an open field you can engage them as you see fit, if they are in a frotification then it is allwyass on their terms. Or rather your terms are differant. Never forget that in a seige the attacker controls when where and how the attack comes. He dictates what is going to happen, mostly. He can use all of your levely resorces whil you run lower and lower on grub. You use castles to hold an area with 100 against 4000, to comensate for numbers. It works but it can be hell on earth. If you are more equal the catle becomes little more than another terrain feature. If you are able to go and fight then you do, becasue you get htings resolved more quickly and more than likely casulaties will in fact be lower, as disease and starvation are real dangers in seige warfare. Also a castle is more than a fortified location. It is a seat of power. It is a supply depo (hence why you can;t leave them behind you, you end up with a well equiped force breathign down your neck behind you). It is a governmental center. Castles exist to enable you to deffend a PLACE, not an army. And I said it was bad news. In that it casues almost as many problems as it solves for the reasons above. I never siad they don't win. They do. It just takes forever. As for why the Kythons are attacking? Search me. All I got told was they where restless. There was a comment in the post about where a lto of food could be found.
Return of the Flumph 05-16-07, 01:43 PM	Actually, a seige IS advantagious for the defenders, especially if they are outnumbered. BTW, why are they attacking the abels of all creatures? And shouldn't you have spent AP on Create Portal and Guide Populace?
Delfedd 05-16-07, 01:46 PM	Yeah, I think that you'd at least need the "Create portal." Since they're outsiders, they wouldn't require AP to make them do things.
Evil DM Mk3 05-16-07, 01:49 PM	Can I clarify if I get simmilar gratis with giants? That was part of the incarnate god thing and the limitations therein. If not ah well. I though create portal was for permient thigns though. I mean that Lich of yours and his bodygurads go and come pretty much as they pleases... Maybe AP, but I am not sure how.
Delfedd 05-16-07, 01:53 PM	They usually use either the Enfermian portal or cast gate. Since Gate lasts for only about three minutes, It would be rather difficult to move an army through. For the solanthi, I sort of assumed there was a smaller amount. It seems like it should be noted what happened because random armies shouldn't show up.
Evil DM Mk3 05-16-07, 01:53 PM	The majour feature of the town I grew up in and reason I have a significant intrest in medieval warfare and sieges in general. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Caerphilly_Castle) It occurs Delfedd, no offence, that the Abel are not deisnged for sige warfare. I though they got into all kinds of trouble if they didn't lay eggs? Kythons may (if for some reason they wanted to, and we agree that they are there) decide to lay seige. In that even the Able have one mortal year to break the seige. There are no allied forces likely to attack the outside, nor are the Kython likely to be drawn elsewhere if there is plenty of food or they deicide that the Able are too much of a prize to give up. (This is not to say I can't see some ways of the Abel forcing the Kythons off.) I dunno, seems interesting.
Camu 05-16-07, 02:19 PM	don't want to nag, but the flying kythons have perfect maneuverability, while the Abel of yours have poor flight, so I would say that the flying kythons are almost unable to get touched by any abel
Camu 05-16-07, 02:20 PM	and the portals they came from where created by demodand, because the kythons where becoming a serious problem. Demodands get better because they loose a lot of the kythons Kythons can search for new hunting territory
Delfedd 05-16-07, 02:43 PM	Ah. You should have mentioned that. Why do they get perfect manuverability? Evil Dm, you are right. The Abel's don't seem like the type to do well in a siege. However. The abels would not all explode at the same time. They would explode in a staggered fashion, one month a few Abel's die because their abdomen explodes. The next month a few abels die. And so On and so on. The abels wouldn't just sit in their homes and die content. They would swarm out on a monthly basis, determined to infect SOME kythons, and if they fail they explode. These assaults would be backed up by other Abels and abeloks. Almost like suicide bombers. Also... you made the Kythons seem nomadic. Why would they randomly assault a mountain?
Camu 05-16-07, 02:46 PM	i posted there stats in the race and religion thread, so i did mention it. why, evolution my friend, evolution.
Delfedd 05-16-07, 02:53 PM	Naw, but seriously, Ghosts have perfect manuverability. Shadows have perfect manuverability. The best I would think would be good, like a beholder. I find it strange that a creature that doesn't use magic to fly can fly as well as normal creatures can walk.
Evil DM Mk3 05-16-07, 02:53 PM	Dragonflys. Hawks. Cuttlefish. Ok so only the first one is relevant. That is, admitedly, how I saw the wings AFTER reading the fly speed, not the otherway round however. I long ago stoped trying to make other peoples stuff make sence by changing it and started either dropping it (not an option here) or using retro-logic.
Evil DM Mk3 05-16-07, 02:56 PM	Oh and sorry to but in (but we will have no end of arguments if it gets noticed by one of you latter) there is a referance to the Ables using implant on the Kythons. Can't happen. As written the implant eggs thing has a limit on what it can affect based on natural armour. ALL Kythons are above that limit. Sorry, just don't want a retcon vs sod you flamewar.
Camu 05-16-07, 02:59 PM	hummingbirds can even fly backwards, and that without magic. many insects can do it almost as well kythons are insectlike and are build for speed and to kill and what Evil_DM says about the implants
Delfedd 05-16-07, 03:05 PM	I understand this about the kythons. There is a dragon magazine that has stats for kyuss worms (read: new abel adults). Perhaps I should have made this clearer. Any creature killled by the kyuss worms would rise. (Dragon 343...) Although it does stink of retconning. They destroyed anything in the air that wasn't a hive member. The flying abels became grounded. Each abel trying to lift up with there clumsy wings was torn apart by the numberous agile reavers. ... Ok... just as a point, I specifically mentioned having smaller abels guarding the huge ones. I definately agree with Evil DM. Retcon vs sod you never works. Hummingbirds are Tiny and have a good manuverability. Also, the abelok forces have swallow whole. They spawn undead using this ability. Just as a warning, the Abels are about to bring in some martial characters using their dominate person.
Evil DM Mk3 05-16-07, 03:11 PM	Dragonlys are a closer aproximation I feel. In any case this feels a bit like appling a lot of logic to a fantasy setting. Apply retro logic instead. Logic indicates that the Abels, being far and away the single most dangerous race existant ATM should have totaly depopulated the planet exept for farms for sentient life for breeding purposes by now if the numbers and strenghts you keep mentioning are accurate. Retro-logic say they haven't. Presumably the queen is paranoid and so avoided this expantion.
Delfedd 05-16-07, 03:22 PM	Numbers and strength? Hm... I don't recall numbers... Oh, the forces on the way to the mountain? Ah. The mile long force? That is what we call mythological exaduration. It sounds cooler than ten hundred feet (or whatever the actual figure is.) Very well. Dragonflies. Anyway.
Evil DM Mk3 05-16-07, 03:29 PM	Mile? Pushing it. Quite a bit. Martial characters? Not sure what they are going to do. In general?Hmm, I wonder :plotting: Ah and the whole confusion. I own exactly 0 issues of Dragon. I know of exactly 2 I could lay my hands on. Neither are that one.
Camu 05-16-07, 03:37 PM	your description in the race & religion thread doesn't mention swallow whole and puking them out again as undead, could you at least post everything they can do before we continue, like i did, since it almost sound you invent ability's at the spot so you can counter my stuff
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Delfedd 05-16-07, 03:50 PM	Ah. Ulgursasta. They have a "vomit attack" which pukes up stomach acidand anything in their belly, an improved grab, a Swallow whole ability, the power to spawn undead (Changed to abel infested from skelletons), and tendrils which deal 1d12 points of slashing damage to any creature in the 40 foot radius, as well as immunity to all nonmagical ranged weapons (arrows, bows and such)
Camu 05-16-07, 04:22 PM	morintu smote them? so now your god is assisting them?
Delfedd 05-16-07, 04:24 PM	Naw. Smote as in the divine power being chanelled through forbiddance.
Evil DM Mk3 05-16-07, 04:24 PM	EDIT: Delfedd posted while I was typing. So you ARE trying for a seige??
Delfedd 05-16-07, 04:27 PM	Ayup.
Camu 05-16-07, 04:27 PM	Well i guess the kythons are now seiging the mountain.
Evil DM Mk3 05-16-07, 04:28 PM	On another note does anyone know Blood tears by Blind Guardian? Damn that could be Blight singing.
Camu 05-16-07, 04:34 PM	and where did that absorbed titan came from all of a sudden?? this new entity you just made pop up into the game, the one with the titan looks much like an act that Evil_DM once tried to pull with the sudden centaur that showed up when your lich tried to convert the solanthi and you all judged him for that, but now i kinda looks like you are doing the same just what i think of it
Delfedd 05-16-07, 04:43 PM	Nope. See. It's different. Because I had backstory and reasons. Also, no offense, but I was left with little choice. Your posts where very long, and you did not give me the option to defend or anything. And don't try to turn this into a "You didn't let Kur-ah defend himself" thing Because I didn't. I spent AP on it. And now we've changed things so we have to work things out ahead of time.
Camu 05-16-07, 04:45 PM	where did i mention Kur-ah, i mentioned the centaur insident and this looks much like it. Don't twiist my words
Evil DM Mk3 05-16-07, 04:47 PM	Well there was a background to the centaur. It was written into the post and what is more I spend AP on the background too. I created the Inquisition. I mentioned that in the posts about the centuar. I even created a plausable reason for him to be in the area. So it is not quite as clean cut as either of you make out here.
Delfedd 05-16-07, 04:48 PM	I know. If you can, could you please describe your swarms actions more individually, so I have a chance to respond to it and not just be like "Fine. I guess I can do these things as well." Incedentally, I believe the portal to TyDyw still exists. Perhaps they could go there. What with them swarming over the mountain and such.
Evil DM Mk3 05-16-07, 04:51 PM	It can't exist Delfedd. You destroyed the place it opened into. If it is still there it is dead. It opened ONTO the Tydyw mountain, its counterpart half was IN the mountain.
Camu 05-16-07, 04:52 PM	Ok, well I just posted that the kythons stop advancing, but they will block any Abel trying to leave. And i'll post small battle updates from now on so you can react on each one
Delfedd 05-16-07, 05:18 PM	As a reminder, the latest update of incorporality doesn't let creatures go deeper than 5 feet into an object. So... yeah. You'd still have to go through a maze to get there.
Camu 05-16-07, 05:26 PM	what does forbiddance do? i don't know the spell so i also am unaware of the effect?
Evil DM Mk3 05-16-07, 05:32 PM	Ok I am going to come out and say this now becasue it has been bothering me since this began. Why are two reaving swarms, that is to say hives of creutres that take prey and move on, fighting over a fortification? Niether species is properly equiped to use it. Neither seems to be the kind to have supplies, farming, sustained growth and all those things that make a fixed location viable. They should be nomadic. Damnit they should be the scourge of the world, leaving deforested areas behind them, or the plauge of the Underrealms, the reason why all the other races live in little self suporting cites and don't go out. Give those :censored: drow (if they ever end up down there) a reason to whine about things. Give Illithids a reason to stay indoors.
Camu 05-16-07, 05:38 PM	ok, I'm going to end this battle once and for all, and don't worry delfedd, it wont involve exterinating each other, trust me. also where did the Abel get the money from to cast such a costly spell?
Camu 05-16-07, 05:52 PM	Ok the it is over, the battle between the two titans is over, and everyone can move on. I hope everyone can live with this last event.
Evil DM Mk3 05-16-07, 05:56 PM	Cool. Very very cool. Although I can't imagine the Kythons have much food left. So they ain't gonna hang around I imagine. That Mountain could get a reputation as the slayer of empires if it is not careful. :D
Delfedd 05-16-07, 05:58 PM	Oooh... New name. The cursed mountain of kur-ah. :D
Camu 05-16-07, 05:59 PM	well i did post they moved on to new hunting grounds delfedds last post wasn't really nessesary, as the cave in could have created a kind of uncertainty if the abel survived or not
Evil DM Mk3 05-16-07, 06:00 PM	No, now we all know where we stand. All is cool. :ayyyy!: And I prefer The God's Tear for the mountain. Goes well with the eye of the gods. *checks map* Bit long for a tear, what about a headstone? Too direct?
Delfedd 05-16-07, 06:29 PM	Also, I'm going to have the Plainrunners grab the crown now. Any objections?
Kirtanus_Albacron 05-16-07, 06:45 PM	The Solanthi Mountain is around (d-f,16-18) on the map. Oh, and on the map you are forgetting the Ezera mountain range, which, after looking through the original thread was on (g-k,14-17)
Delfedd 05-16-07, 06:50 PM	That makes that particular area very crowded. any chance you could move it? Also, why would the solanthi be near their sworn enemies?
Evil DM Mk3 05-16-07, 06:52 PM	I am right that gods can sleep, right?
Kirtanus_Albacron 05-16-07, 06:56 PM	I think I created the mountain before you created the Vaati, either that or I didn't know the Vaati was there. Because I created the mountain and then created the Solanthi two turns later. The plateau could be placed (s-u,1-3).
Camu 05-16-07, 07:04 PM	I am right that gods can sleep, right? I think they 'can' sleep if they want to, but they don't need it.
ewancummins 05-16-07, 07:26 PM	It's Wednesday, but we are still one month 1 of year 2, yes? Just asking for clarification. Next game month starts, what, next Sunday-ish?
Evil DM Mk3 05-16-07, 07:28 PM	Right this is me off until Sunday, I may be able to pop in and out a little but not much. Return of the Flumph is dealing with the month turn over.
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Evil DM Mk3 05-17-07, 12:32 PM	Let me guess, shield next?
Delfedd 05-17-07, 10:48 PM	Well, it says the next thing is a cape. But maybe it's a shield! :D Anywho, what's up with the boards? Did they fix the problem easily and quickly? From my calculations, the boards shouldn't have been up until tomorrow at 8 am. I'm going to have the Plainrunners expand a bit more, if that's alright. I mean, they have almost no competition.
ewancummins 05-17-07, 10:50 PM	Plainsrunners expanding, eh? Cool with me.
Camu 05-18-07, 05:27 AM	a set of new kythons join the hive army, making it deadlier then ever. (there stats will be posted later)
Delfedd 05-18-07, 05:47 AM	Where's the hive now?
Camu 05-18-07, 05:50 AM	moving randomly, away from the mountain. Where on the map is kur-ah's mountain located, Is it the extremely tall one, because it isn't named. Then i can maybe give a more detailed route
Delfedd 05-18-07, 06:06 AM	Yeah, it's the very tall one.
Camu 05-18-07, 06:13 AM	well they move towards the east, south east (not in a strait line, it shifts as there scouts find new hunting grounds)
Evil DM Mk3 05-18-07, 06:17 AM	Please note that I places the Eldrich giant clan on the giant's eastern flank. If the palinsrunners try and head for the mountains about the cravasse they are in for a tough time. If they head south there are likely to be a lot of xenologists writing about them. They will go right past the library. Oh and hi. The reactivation fo the boards allows me to post at a time when I thought impossible. By the time they where ment to be back I was ment to be unobtainable untill sunday. Typical.
Delfedd 05-18-07, 06:29 AM	Ah. Good thing they have ships now. :D Perhaps there are people studying the Plainrunners. *shrug*
Evil DM Mk3 05-18-07, 06:31 AM	Aren't they a bit far from the library?
Camu 05-18-07, 06:32 AM	who?
Evil DM Mk3 05-18-07, 06:34 AM	Plainsrunners.
Camu 05-18-07, 08:18 AM	I can imagine that there will be conflicts as the kythons move around and come in contact with the other races that inhabit this world, so I think it's maybe best if we discuss via PM what would happen if a conflict between on of your races and the kythons arrives So we can post the results on the IC thread without to much player conflict ;)
Evil DM Mk3 05-18-07, 10:04 AM	I can sum up the races I made pretty quickly. Azer: Are underground. The minataur/centaur tribes: Fall back, outdistance the hive, snipe, hit and run untill it decides easier lunch can be had. Races in the Library:Totaly safe. Hags Dopelgangers and Rashkeasa: Isolated and deceatful. Hard to realise they are about. Not going to even be targeted.
Camu 05-18-07, 10:23 AM	yup, i thik the minotaur and centaur would indeed be the only targets, and if easier prey is available they would go after that, but if there isn't they can become desperate. but i think the hive would focus more on races that live in settlements, villages and city's. I also imagine the hive on the material plane will start to reduce it's numbers to a less epic proportion, although still massive in comparison to other races.
Return of the Flumph 05-18-07, 11:42 AM	If the kythons ever come within five miles of the coastline, they're going to be dead long before they can adapt. Just letting you know.
Camu 05-18-07, 11:50 AM	why would hey, they are not aquatic, so they don't bother and there marching away from any coastline, they arn't even close and why 5 miles? you gonna tsunami or tidal wave them?
Evil DM Mk3 05-18-07, 12:09 PM	Oh I forgot one Gaints: Just try it bucko. See how far you get.
Anuvrix 05-18-07, 12:09 PM	Wow, i missed alot. Haven't been able to post recently. Very busy.:ton: :bigeyes: I also wont have the time to peruse the mass of new posts to catch up. I was hoping some one with some more spare time could take some highlights and post them here for me? If so, thanx :bow:. As soon as i catch up, ill be able to post.
Evil DM Mk3 05-18-07, 12:11 PM	What was the last thing you aware happened?
Camu 05-18-07, 12:16 PM	well, then i better just remove all kythons from play, as i'm unable to touch any race, so they all starve, nice.....
Evil DM Mk3 05-18-07, 12:19 PM	I was just giving an honest opion. My logic: Azer: Are underground. The minataur/centaur tribes: Can be taken but have a defuse structure that makes them relatively safe from cassula romaing attack. Focused attack would be a majour problem. Races in the Library:Totaly safe due to magical protections. Hags Dopelgangers and Rashkeasa: Both diffuse and hard to pin down. Gaints: Look at the CR. I am not saying you couldn't take them, just that it would result in mountains of dead Kythons. In any case they are a LONG LONG way away.
Camu 05-18-07, 12:50 PM	double post
Camu 05-18-07, 12:52 PM	ok, just to make something clear too kythons are not mindless creatures, and there hive as a whole is rather intelligent aswell, so they can reason aswell as any other race. That's why kythons would never eradicate an entire populous, they don't settle on rich huntinggrounds until it is completely spend of resources, they just move from one spot to the next. They migght cause havoc to a species or population, but they know that if they take it all, they will eventually run out of food, nomatter where they go. And yes they eat meat, but that doesn't mean they only feed on intelligent races. Also, because of this hive intelligense, it would make it theoretically possible to negotiate with this entity.
Delfedd 05-18-07, 03:10 PM	We understand. And THAT is EXACTLY why we don't want them to be all "We continue increasing our hive." And... how can they not take it all? From the numbers you described, there are dozens of CR20 creatures just running around causing general havoc. WORKING IN GROUPS. That seems pretty insurmountable. Don't worry guys, I've got a plan. The Kythons won't be with us forever. :D Anywho, kythons are quite literally an alien species. They have different goals, beliefs, aims, societies, ecology, and so on from the rest of our races. (Except the abels, but they're underground). The fact taht there is a horde of monsters which Also, how does your hive mind work? Is it simply the formian idea, with the "If one creature is not flanked, then no creature in the swarm is flanked," or is it "The overmind can control every one of the kythons individually, using it's own intelligence to use every kython?" because if it's the second one, the word is unbalanced. Basically what I'm asking is, how does the overmind work?
Camu 05-18-07, 03:24 PM	The hive mnd is a greater intelligence that 'guides' the hives primary needs. It doesn't take control over each individual, although it uses certain creatures to represent itself, in this case by the two heralds Daggoth and Silussa. As for the guiding, it desides if there should be more eggs, or that certain adults should evolve in a more specialised type. Or if it's time to kill one of there devouerers. Etc etc. Kythons fight as individuals, the hive mind only pushes them into the right direction, sort of. Maybe the best way to say it is, it organises the hive. It's more of a rp thing then something mechanical. Hope this explains it a bit. It is certainly not like the BoVD explains it
Kirtanus_Albacron 05-18-07, 07:03 PM	I have updated the Solanthi.
d24478667 05-18-07, 09:44 PM	By the way... I'm back.
Return of the Flumph 05-18-07, 09:52 PM	What did you think of our fair city?
d24478667 05-18-07, 10:02 PM	I had fun; granted, it would have been better if my roommates let me sleep, but all in all, I had fun.
Camu 05-19-07, 05:54 AM	how far developed is elf civilisation so far, because the kythons are getting closer to them?
Delfedd 05-19-07, 09:49 AM	OK. See, that was the thing that was making me mad the other day. You say these things as if nothing could affect the Kythons. Perhaps Kirtanious had an excelent idea to use against the kythons, but now can't because you just killed off the elves. Also, You can't really attack the elvish settlements, because really they're aboreal. That would be like attacking a lot of chimpanzees. You can't fly through the trees, the elves can climb better than you, and can dissappear into the forest with little effort.
Camu 05-19-07, 10:10 AM	Uhm, i just killed one borderkingdom of what i thought would be many, so I just took a few elves and then i removed the kythons from play, because evryone was getting bothered by them. So I don't see any problem really
Delfedd 05-19-07, 10:23 AM	:D I didn't see the removal from play part. But thanks. Oh, and if I ever need an apocolypse, I'll know who to call.
d24478667 05-19-07, 01:55 PM	Before people get mad at me for powerseeking, be aware, I did mention that would happen.
Delfedd 05-19-07, 03:56 PM	Hey guys. Guess what? Haven is not the same thing as Sigil. Amon is Not the lady of blades. Please oh PLEASE do not connect Lords of Creation to any other world. Pleeease. It ruins the credibility of a world. And don't throw the "You can believe that gods can raise mountians with their pinky, but you're mad that there's alternate worlds? Why, quantum mechanics proves that there might be other worlds." and so on. What happens with these Infinite world scenarios is that Anything becomes fair game, and what we've created ourselves becomes less and less important. It was a kind of funny comment, the dirt thing. but can we just never mention it happened ever again?
Janusunaj 05-19-07, 03:59 PM	Its o.k.
Camu 05-19-07, 06:08 PM	those last two pages frolm the IC thread are about Amon's test right?
Delfedd 05-19-07, 06:17 PM	Yes. Certainly.
Janusunaj 05-19-07, 06:34 PM	Sorry I couldn't post earlier Delfedd.
ewancummins 05-20-07, 12:30 AM	Received word from Riverrock. Britmara is in play. Britmara Shield sister, Walker on the High Parapet [DR:1] demigod , Crusader level 28 , AP=2 Symbol: A small bird perched atop a upright sword's point, against a background formed by an azure shield clustered with seven silver stars. Home: Gorgild Alignment: Neutral Good Domain: Courage Portfolio: courage , hope, defense of the weak and the innocent Worshippers: good folk beset by evil, soldiers entering righteous battle, crusaders and zealots who oppose evil Favored weapon: Hope Rekindled , a silvery longsword Avatar: Her avatar appears as a female humanoid , beautiful and athletic with a celestial aura about her. She wears partial plate and mail armor of graceful and lightweight design. A shield is strapped on her left arm. She carries Hope Rekindled at her side. [Think of the MM1 image of the ghaele eladrin, that's close]. Creatures Created: nothing yet
Janusunaj 05-20-07, 12:44 AM	(deleted.)
Evil DM Mk3 05-20-07, 04:46 AM	OK guys, I think we need to look at the impact of closing off the dreams from mortals. Even if we ignore the real life effects that a lack of REM sleep (basicly what is happening) then we still have: 1.A massive reduction in insiration and creativity, the whole of society just stopped advancing. No dreams, no daydreams, no drive, no imagination. 2.Kyrinian is probably in trouble as the fey are likely to get annoyed I would have thought and in any case the status of the god of a non existant force is going to be pretty low. 3.Why is Amon not being seen as LG? I mean prehaps he was a bit inactive before he was murdered, but what he did was still boradly good. Now he has not had a chance to do much sice returning, exept try (and somehow fail) to thin the ranks of evil a bit.
Evil DM Mk3 05-20-07, 10:09 AM	As a straw poll, how familiar is everyone here with Incatations from Unearthed Arcana?
Camu 05-20-07, 10:12 AM	are those the rules so a non caster class can do some magic stuff?
Evil DM Mk3 05-20-07, 10:18 AM	Yup. I was thinking of creating "Ritual Magic", that is to say rituals that create magical effects, such as a ritual dance that increases crop growth over the folloing year (at the low end) to rituals that can raise from the dead a hero that has been utterly anhialated and his soul shreaded, a thousand years ago, against his desire (at the high end). (Both of these effects are outside of the normal Incatation limits, one too low and the other too high but I feel it would be nice for all of those superstitions and rightes and folk customs to DO SOMTHING.) For most of the time these things would be background fluff but of course Incatations are the best way of reprisenting it. I have allways run things such as Liches as Incantations, ie a dangerous alchemical process that cna result in death if it goes wrong, in my games. It allows you a certain leway for creating magical effects that otherwise would be utterly unbalancing. Magic item that can cause stroms? Far too powerful? Two hour ritual that does the same? Not going to get used offen is it? Even if the PCs have the right skills. But it does allow covens of hags and simmialr to do all kinds of evil shinanigins.
d24478667 05-20-07, 10:18 AM	Slightly familiar, but I have the book next to me.
Camu 05-20-07, 10:21 AM	well i have to look the rules up again, i usually don't like to use unearthed arcana, since i find some of the rules kind of overpowering like gestalts
Evil DM Mk3 05-20-07, 10:25 AM	Let me clarify, I will create "ritual magic". Then I will state "If you have Unearthed Arcana then use the Incatation rules. If you don't (or don't want to use Incatations) then it should 1. Take between an hour and a day, 2. Cost (in money or xp or incovienace), 3. Be very specific (the dance of the green season works only on the first day of spring, the Lord at the Gate calls the Pit Fiend Zar'golthon and only him, that kind of thing), 4. Have the potential for massive penalites if they are messed up and 5. Not be very useful to PCs on a day to day basis.
Camu 05-20-07, 10:30 AM	I don't have anything against ritual magic, it's just that i only remembered the rules vaguely because i don't use my unearthed arcana much because of the reason i stated above.
Evil DM Mk3 05-20-07, 10:35 AM	I just like the idea of whitches LITERALLY brewing up a strom.
Delfedd 05-20-07, 04:15 PM	Also, I agree with riverrock in saying that Amon doesn't seem very Lawful anymore because of that action. Neutrality may be looming on the horizon soon, and after that chaos.
Janusunaj 05-20-07, 04:16 PM	See this one reason why I didn't do much. As soon as a good character starts to do something everyone's like "Whaaa!" Evil! No NEUTRAL@!!! OOC: And, I typed Kyrinian when I meant Alusia. If you'll notice, I spoke to her as if he was female. Edit-Nevermind. Just forget about it.
Janusunaj 05-20-07, 04:48 PM	O.k. I am going to drop a non-divine bomb. I'm thinking about an epic caster summoning Hecatoncheires so the gods would cooperate to defeat him.
Evil DM Mk3 05-20-07, 04:58 PM	Wait, a hundred handed one? With our line up? Are you :censored: mental? Do you want us all to die?
Janusunaj 05-20-07, 05:01 PM	Don't worry. Its only storybased. Besides we don't evern know how powerful our gods are mechanics wise. It sounds just crazy enough to brighten up the Campaign Setting a little bit.
Evil DM Mk3 05-20-07, 05:04 PM	And, may I remind you, Storywise hundred handed ones are suposed to be able to wipe out PANTHEONS. Dude, step away from the big red button! ;)
Janusunaj 05-20-07, 05:06 PM	We aren't kitten Greek Gods, we want a badass Campaign setting. Remember?
Camu 05-20-07, 05:20 PM	are we a pantheon, that gives us a little to much credit doesn't it, a pantheon is where on race worships a lot of gods. But in this campain, most of us are just gods that get worshipped by a single race, most of the time a race we created ourselfes.
Evil DM Mk3 05-20-07, 05:26 PM	I like to think that Blight is not worshiped by many, but is feared my most. The idea of little phrases like "Beyond Blight" (as in a person who is very VERY nasty) start to creep in to conversation. Fear is as good as worship, better even, you don't have to whiney prayers. And yes I think most races know of Blight, every now and again one fo their nubmer mutates into a horror he created.
Camu 05-20-07, 05:48 PM	well then you could say that everyone who feels some kind of hunger, or giving in to that hunger would power me and when there is hunger or famine, i guess most folk would make some prayer about making me stop
Destrieth 05-20-07, 06:33 PM	Ridiculous. That is anything but a good action. "I'm only releasing this great plague so everyone else will cooperate to find a cure for it." And don't even get me started on the litany of other things I could complain about.
Kirtanus_Albacron 05-20-07, 07:21 PM	I have posted stats for the Solanthi.
Delfedd 05-20-07, 08:12 PM	No thanks. That means someone would have to create them...
d24478667 05-20-07, 09:07 PM	-delete, posted in wrong thread-
Janusunaj 05-20-07, 09:31 PM	Kathord [DR:1] demigod , Fighter/Druid level 28 , AP=2 Symbol: A stone sword Home: The Planet Alignment: Neutral Good Domain: war, strength, fire Portfolio: pigs, tika, boar, cooking Worshippers: farmers, druids, shamans, adepts, barbarians Favored weapon: Tusks of Fury OR Axe of Axing Avatar:His Avatar is a pig man, with huge muscles, and a long golden beared. Creatures Created: nothing yet
d24478667 05-20-07, 09:48 PM	Um.. Whozzat?
Delfedd 05-20-07, 09:51 PM	Dunno. I think it's just randomly created. Remember, the test is not to make demi-god proxies, it is to allow heroes to ascend to hero god status.
Evil DM Mk3 05-21-07, 05:05 AM	wrong thread
Illeveun Bloodblaze 05-21-07, 10:03 AM	As I have not acted in a while, does anybody know exactly how many turns it has been since i acted?
Evil DM Mk3 05-21-07, 10:04 AM	Quite a while... Havent seen you in a few divine months at least, possilbly four...
ewancummins 05-21-07, 05:43 PM	Does the Prime Material world have stars? I don't recall them being created. If it doesn't, I have a plan for them.
Evil DM Mk3 05-21-07, 05:48 PM	We where told that they where there when I asked about the sun, sorry.
ewancummins 05-21-07, 05:58 PM	No big deal. I might mess around with constellations, or something.
Evil DM Mk3 05-21-07, 06:01 PM	Yay, painting on the sky! Pitty that if you want your new deiaty to gain a seond domain you will have to carry AP over, we seem to be getting fewer and fewer RP domains so you would have to do a create concept.
d24478667 05-21-07, 06:43 PM	Riverrock, do you think that Kyrnian could rise?
Delfedd 05-21-07, 06:48 PM	By the way, what makes you guys think that Kyrinian is less evil? I mean, he killed amon just as much as Alusia... Alusia's actually done LESS than Kyrinian.
d24478667 05-21-07, 07:02 PM	Well, Frostbite is thinking of it from his perspective. Think about it; this god has shown no anger to any of Frostbite's family. Hell, he is part of Frostbite's family. And Kyrnian tried to have Frostbite join him, which could be viewed as trying to gain support. And Frostbite for some reason thinks that Alsuia's a (female dog).
Destrieth 05-21-07, 09:58 PM	Despite having never met her. /grin
d24478667 05-21-07, 10:37 PM	So your gods are allowed to be crazy because they're evil, but mine can't be crazy and good? What's with that? That's alignmentism. ;)
riverrock 05-21-07, 10:49 PM	Riverrock, do you think that Kyrnian could rise? Anything can happen.
Destrieth 05-21-07, 11:05 PM	I think it depends who's on the side of good, really, with regards to redemption.
ewancummins 05-21-07, 11:17 PM	Not that Arteheyn knows, but what happened to Morintu's heart, anyway?
Evil DM Mk3 05-22-07, 05:06 AM	Moruntu's heart became Ooulzloth. I think I know one thing that would cause any of the fallen evils (that is to say not Blight, the flase dragon or Ooulzolth of the recent posters) to rise again. Also I think we should establish what would happen if our gods where to die, so there is no arguments later. The King of All Tribes is hereditary of course, it would pretty much require the total genocide of storm giants to get rid of him (all giants fo the same type are distant blood realtions) for good, although killing the present king is likely to have a real effect. Blight is prehaps the most corrupt and degraded soul that exists. He is likely to be assimialated straight into the nameless realm if he dies. What would happen then is anyones guess, but I doubt he would be out for the count very easily. I am put in mind of Orcus.
Evil DM Mk3 05-22-07, 07:36 AM	Delfedd how am I suposed to carry on from that? I don't know what teh gift is or anything.
Return of the Flumph 05-22-07, 09:36 AM	If Glykllivar dies, the dragon turtle Ur-Kaz will probably ascend...for someone else to play. Meanwhile, I will find a different god.
Camu 05-22-07, 11:33 AM	what are the ramadeen again?
Return of the Flumph 05-22-07, 11:33 AM	Glowy minotaurs.
Evil DM Mk3 05-22-07, 12:06 PM	Wrong thread, AGAIN.
Delfedd 05-22-07, 02:55 PM	Hey guys. It's that time of the week. MAPTIME! I simply need the following things. The NAME of the place What the place is (Forest, desert, city) The LOCATION of the place what the place looks like.
Janusunaj 05-22-07, 03:03 PM	Mountains, Dwarves, Lets call it Kadorath, in the native dwarven tounge. It is of course, mountains, where the stone giants are near, or are, and now currently seem to be allied.
Evil DM Mk3 05-22-07, 03:06 PM	OOH! Don't forget the Disc City (the human time vessel, home of SAGE, the brotherhood of the mind and the Eightfould circle). Never worked out where it should go though, put it nearish teh swamp humans and the farmer humans (and a distance fromt eh plainsrunenrs who did not take up their culture, logic that)
d24478667 05-22-07, 05:31 PM	If Glykllivar dies, the dragon turtle Ur-Kaz will probably ascend...for someone else to play. Meanwhile, I will find a different god. How could Glykllivar die, seeing as the rule, "No god death unless permitted," is in effect? And don't forget to show the coral city on the water. (Meaning, show the top on the water.) Or draw an underwater map.
Return of the Flumph 05-22-07, 05:46 PM	Because I am mature enough to know when Glykllivar is dangerously overmatched, and-if I judge this to be the case-her attackers could kill her. By the way, I've been thinking of playing another god, and there are two possibilities that occured to me. 1. Ky'Themon, the Scaled One. He created that one plane, and then just dissapeared. 2. SAGE somehow ascends to godhood. Could I do either of those?
Evil DM Mk3 05-22-07, 05:50 PM	Well SAGE was written as a kind of non-organic elder brain. It takes COPIES of minds (and makes no elderbrain style claims about "immorality through union") witch is sentient but without actaul goals, so in theory I supose it could break a certain threshold, although you would be RPing for a static machine... Might be fun to have another "incarnate" god, you know, tied to the material realm, differant from other settings.
Return of the Flumph 05-22-07, 05:53 PM	Who says he has to retain his physical body? It just occured to me that SAGE is hyperintelligent, has been around for a few hundred years now, and-unlike the elder brains-has a clear enough perspective on reality to potentially evolve spiritually. I'm thinking he'd either become the god of knowledge, the god of time, or the patron deity of humanity (though not all humans worship or even know about him). Can I?
Evil DM Mk3 05-22-07, 05:57 PM	Why not? (Apart from Riverrock's blessing of course) there is nothing to stop it. The Mages and the Brotherhood are likely to miss you though, what with them atoring everything from copies of Achmed the Mad's Necrotelecomunication to cookie recipes in you...
Return of the Flumph 05-22-07, 05:58 PM	They can still interface with me via the Disc City. Maybe that will amount to Create Avatar.
riverrock 05-22-07, 06:00 PM	Go ahead. The only questions would be, what DvR, and what domains? Personally, I'm leaning towards demi or lesser, but I have no idea on domains. Also, slightly off topic, are you planning on retiring Gly? I hope not, because she's one of my favorite deities. Even further off topic, if anyone knows anything that is wrong with their deity description, please pm me so I can fix it.
jamvid 05-22-07, 06:04 PM	Map Stuff from what I remember, I thought that Daskotan was just west of the inland sea/megalake it was also not near the Athachs, that was a different forest, which was relaively small and around 16-G Oh, a hooray and a thank you to Delfedd for getting us our map back (don't eat me)!
Evil DM Mk3 05-22-07, 06:04 PM	KNOWLADGE. Come on that is pretty basic. Pure and simple. SAGE is a computer. He/she/it was built to answer questions and store information. BEEP.
Return of the Flumph 05-22-07, 06:06 PM	Not giving up Gly at all. She's just currently lying low, trying to decide what to do in the next month or two. Actually, she is also in a conversation with Frostbite and that new chick, but the thread is so full of mortal stuff right now that it is hard to notice. If I play SAGE (which you seem to approve of) should it be lesser or demi? Your call.
riverrock 05-22-07, 06:06 PM	Let's say demi, since it would be recently ascended.
d24478667 05-22-07, 06:06 PM	Besides Frostbite, Glykllivar and Kyrnian are my two favorite gods. Odd how they are both the gods most closely related to Frostbite, huh?
Evil DM Mk3 05-22-07, 06:09 PM	Well I really like Blight, although more RP would be nice to flesh out the personality. Aside form that Gry, Frostbite, Kir, and Arethun are all in my top 10.
Evil DM Mk3 05-22-07, 06:12 PM	BTW I had intended for SAGE to stand for Simulation Assimilation and Generation Engine. But that is not cannon as I never wrote it down.
riverrock 05-22-07, 06:12 PM	Here is an idea- I'll bump it up to lesser, and you can take the illusion domain (since it was opened up so long ago and no one took it.) This could also be the rationale for SAGE's ascension-it took up some of the divine power lying around from when Lexius divided the ley lines.
Evil DM Mk3 05-22-07, 06:14 PM	FING Brillaint Riverrock!
Camu 05-22-07, 06:15 PM	I like all the gods you guys created, mine the least actually also love the SAGE idea
Evil DM Mk3 05-22-07, 06:19 PM	Hey Ooulzoth has got exatly the third kind of pure evil down to a tee. (Morintu is meglomaniac evil, Blight is deranged evil and Ooulzoth is alien evil. Works great.)
Return of the Flumph 05-22-07, 06:23 PM	Truly ingenious, Riv. Ideas of the illusion-tossing computer god are filling my mind already :D Ooulzoth is fine. He's just a little too ellusive. He needs to do more than just throw random waves of monsters around. As it is, he's really ominous, but it should be leading up to something.
Evil DM Mk3 05-22-07, 06:25 PM	Let me clear this up however. SAGE runs on a unique operating system, makign him all but immune to viruses and he does not blue screen!
Return of the Flumph 05-22-07, 06:26 PM	No, he's a superevolved wii.
Evil DM Mk3 05-22-07, 06:28 PM	A superevolved Magi-Psionic Wii then. I supose when you have to fight evil Aboleth Overlord Overminds you have to use what you got.
Camu 05-22-07, 06:29 PM	well Ooulzoth has a plan, so don't worry.... ...or maybe you should ;)
Return of the Flumph 05-22-07, 06:40 PM	NAME: SAGE [DR: 6] Lesser Deity: Illusionist 20 / Psion 7 / Loremaster 3 Symbol: A metal annulus Home: Disc City (sort of) Alignment: Lawful Good Domains: Illusion, Knowledge Portfolio: illusion magic, psionics, science, lore Worshipers: natural philosophers, sane psions, some humans Favored Weapon: AMMA-61 Disruption Rod (quarterstaff) Avatar: A hovering, holographic human face made up of numerous transcluscent spheres. He can also speak through his old body in Disc City, which is a metal cube covered in interface modules, plasma screen moniters, and microholoprojectors. Creatures Created: -
Camu 05-22-07, 06:42 PM	don't you need to start with minimum level, which would be 30 i think? just a quetsion otherwise it looks fien and i like it
Evil DM Mk3 05-22-07, 06:44 PM	NAME: SAGE [DR: 6] Lesser Deity: Illusionist 20 / Psion 7 / Loremaster 7 Symbol: A metal anulis Home: Disc City (sort of) Alignment: Lawful Good Domains: Illusion, Knowledge Portfolio: illusion magic, psionics, science, lore Worshipers: natural philosophers, sane psions, some humans Favored Weapon: AMMA-61 Disruption Rod (quarterstaff) Avatar: A hovering, holographic human face made up of numerous transcluscent spheres. He can also speak through his old body in Disc City, which is a metal cube covered in interface modules, plasma screen moniters, and microholoprojectors. Creatures Created: -:clap: Is the weapon a pun?
Return of the Flumph 05-22-07, 06:51 PM	Sorry about the level thing; I copy/pasted a template statblock and overlooked that part. Fixed now. The weapon isn't a pun...that I can see. What are you referring to?
Evil DM Mk3 05-22-07, 06:52 PM	It jsut sounds like it could be a pun on a piece of computer equipment, but I am not the sort of guy who would get it, so I checked.
Return of the Flumph 05-22-07, 06:59 PM	Awaiting riverrock's approval. If gotten, SAGE will ascend to the above state with the dawn of the next divine month.
d24478667 05-22-07, 06:59 PM	Annulus? The psionic artifact that can destroy psionics as we know it? Or Annulat, the bladed disc you throw like a frisbee?
Return of the Flumph 05-22-07, 06:59 PM	Annulus: a disc with a hole in the middle. Like a CD.
riverrock 05-22-07, 07:02 PM	Awaiting riverrock's approval. If gotten, SAGE will ascend to the above state with the dawn of the next divine month. Approval granted. Since you are technically filling the god of illusion slot that was created so long ago, you can start now.
d24478667 05-22-07, 07:06 PM	Yeah, but in D&D terms, the Annulus, (in the XPH) is the same disc, but it is also an artifact. In Planar Handbook, the Annulat is a bladed disc that you throw like a frisbee as a weapon. So which is it?
Delfedd 05-22-07, 07:08 PM	Hm... Why does everyone seem to think that Kyrinian is a pansy? Anyway, the Kobolds aren't a menace. They've basically stayed in their mountains the whole time.
Return of the Flumph 05-22-07, 07:10 PM	Hm... Why does everyone seem to think that Kyrinian is a pansy? Anyway, the Kobolds aren't a menace. They've basically stayed in their mountains the whole time. Not evil =/= pansy. You mentioned that the kobalds capture and sacrifice anyone who comes too close to their home. That sounds pretty menacing to me.
d24478667 05-22-07, 07:11 PM	Who said he was a pansy? He was (metaphorically) seduced to evil through Morintu. More accurately, Morintu said that Good was Evil and Vice Versa. So, how did I say he was a pansy?
Evil DM Mk3 05-22-07, 07:11 PM	To the gods seeking to "rise the fallen". You have a possible inside man.
Return of the Flumph 05-22-07, 07:11 PM	Yeah, but in D&D terms, the Annulus, (in the XPH) is the same disc, but it is also an artifact. In Planar Handbook, the Annulat is a bladed disc that you throw like a frisbee as a weapon. So which is it? An annulus. A normal, regular annulus. Just as not every pyramid is made of stone and has an extensive tomb underneath, not every annulus is a psionic WOMD.
Return of the Flumph 05-22-07, 07:13 PM	Thanks, RR. Posting imminently.
d24478667 05-22-07, 07:14 PM	Just saying that if it is a weapon, in D&D terms, it is referred to as an annulat. That was my point.
d24478667 05-22-07, 07:15 PM	To the gods seeking to "rise the fallen". You have a possible inside man. Speaking of which, would it be possible to have the God of Vile Evil rise?;) That just would break my mind.
Evil DM Mk3 05-22-07, 07:17 PM	But he is allready pro good... Look at all the good he has done by weading out your weak and easily corruptable!
Delfedd 05-22-07, 07:17 PM	Not evil =/= pansy. You mentioned that the kobalds capture and sacrifice anyone who comes too close to their home. That sounds pretty menacing to me. Yeah, but the elves do that too... Oh those elves.
d24478667 05-22-07, 07:47 PM	Yeah, but the elves do that too... Oh those elves. All that means is that the elves are a menace also. Thats like stealing something, then saying it isn't illegal because that guy over there stole the same thing.
Return of the Flumph 05-22-07, 07:48 PM	The elves are also a menace. No one disputed that. However, they aren't anyone's fault besides Rytheal, and he's already dead (just had to screw things up a LITTLE more before winking out). Anyway, that new elvish god is in the process of civilizing them, so maybe they will stop being a menace like the kobalds.
Delfedd 05-22-07, 07:52 PM	:D I do that all the time. The stealing bit. Anywho, we've got to consider individual actions instead of "alignment" now that we're moving into the midgame. I mean, now we're having long bouts of non-divine roleplaying. Morality should be an issue.
d24478667 05-22-07, 07:53 PM	1800th post. But besides that, perhaps Delfedd is right; I myself like it as-is. Illeveun Bloodblaze, make sure you do not use what Frostbite has said as meta-game knowledge.
ewancummins 05-22-07, 11:29 PM	Wow. Morintu is mega evil! :eek:
Delfedd 05-22-07, 11:32 PM	Tee-hee Seriously, why do you think I would save that?
ewancummins 05-22-07, 11:34 PM	Arteheyn's avatar is looking for something....
Delfedd 05-22-07, 11:35 PM	nothing
ewancummins 05-22-07, 11:41 PM	I aleterd that last post. Thought we might keep it semi mysterious for now. Some players will be surprised, I think.
ewancummins 05-23-07, 12:17 AM	I think it's ironic that Arteheyn wants the gods to NOT fight and kill one another, but have their followers fight for them instead- whereas Britmara is suggesting that Gyllkivar and Lexius throw down in person, leaving their followers and creations out of it.
Camu 05-23-07, 07:57 AM	when is the next turn? tomorrow?
Evil DM Mk3 05-23-07, 08:13 AM	yup, and Deledd, great means to an end there.
d24478667 05-23-07, 08:56 PM	No one is shocked by what Frostbite is doing at all?
Delfedd 05-23-07, 09:02 PM	Um... No? Wait, what's he doing? I may have missed it. Trying to stop war?
ewancummins 05-23-07, 09:06 PM	He's pulling martyrdom move!
d24478667 05-23-07, 09:14 PM	Um... No? Wait, what's he doing? I may have missed it. Trying to stop war? Trying to make a bargain with Lexius; Lexius doesn't attack Glykllivar. In exchange, Frostbite's life is forfeit.
Delfedd 05-23-07, 09:46 PM	Oh. I must have missed that. A bit melodramatic, isn't it? Also, Glykllivar can handle herself, silly. See! That is EXACTLY the kind of good you guys should be! Self sacrificing Idiots who do things for "values" like "love," "hope," "Friendship." Seriously. go on, sacrifice yourself.
d24478667 05-23-07, 09:51 PM	Also, I am not sure I can stay in for much longer; familial issues. If I need to duck out, I'll know by that time, and it will give me a way out with a bang.
Delfedd 05-23-07, 09:55 PM	Ah. Or you could get frozen in an iceburg so you could come back. On purpose. No, but seriously other gods, be self sacrificing without purpose
d24478667 05-23-07, 09:58 PM	Oh, you may see my contingency. It's an.. interesting one to say the least.
Return of the Flumph 05-23-07, 10:25 PM	What the f... WHY????????
Evil DM Mk3 05-24-07, 05:27 AM	Don't be an idiot. Fade Frostbite out, don't kill him off. Frostbite is too good to lose.
d24478667 05-24-07, 06:12 AM	What the f... WHY???????? Familial reasons. But I am pretty sure that this storm will pass, and you will see my contingency.
Evil DM Mk3 05-24-07, 06:14 AM	Go searching the universe for the lost ring then. Get travel on your domains :D
Delfedd 05-24-07, 06:16 AM	I'm pretty sure he was talking about OOC.
d24478667 05-24-07, 06:20 AM	Yeah, Delfedd wins the prize.
Evil DM Mk3 05-24-07, 09:30 AM	Hey RotF. I acuse you of Deux Ex Mechanica! :rofl: Oh and due to limited comupter acess on my part the new turn should be started by somone else as I may not be able to be at a computer at the correct time.
Anuvrix 05-24-07, 12:04 PM	What was the last thing you aware happened? My last post on the LoC was the escape of the Psions. I havent read anythin past that. There is only a week and a half of school left here, so i will be able to post more regularly soon.
Evil DM Mk3 05-24-07, 12:40 PM	Kur-ah is dead. Kythons came and Pwned, then got squished by a trans-dimentional metior or simmilar. Giants came and are awsome. Elves caught culture. SAGE assended. Little else you REALLY need to know I think.
Anuvrix 05-24-07, 04:05 PM	Wow, nice summary. You fit like 10 pages into one sentence. :bow: So, now what can i do? It has been one or two turns since i posted the escape thing, so they're all dead. I will need to come up with a new story for my creation...
d24478667 05-24-07, 04:16 PM	It has been one or two turns since i posted the escape thing, so they're all dead. I will need to come up with a new story for my creation... Unless they became elans. In which case, you could be the first one to die; ascending out of reality as they know it.
Anuvrix 05-24-07, 04:23 PM	Unless they became elans. In which case, you could be the first one to die; ascending out of reality as they know it. Hmmmmm.... The first psion that died, raised to godhood. It would work, and by now (a couple hundred years later) there would be more followers, worshipping his cause. I think ill go with it, but his ascension to godhood should be (as gods draw their power from worshippers) because of worshippers. A simple man, freed the psions from slavery. Now is a god, who leads his people onward.
Camu 05-24-07, 05:22 PM	is it the next month or not?
Delfedd 05-24-07, 06:13 PM	Sure. Knock yourself out.
Delfedd 05-24-07, 06:33 PM	Fine. I'll be professional. Evil_DM stated that, because of his computer issues, he might not be on at the right time. Therefore, I declare the next month.... begun.
Camu 05-24-07, 06:49 PM	talking backwards is fun, but slow, have to find something else
Delfedd 05-24-07, 09:02 PM	Amon... by my reconing you combined several actions there. Raising a continent, nourishing two populuses... yeah. Also, we don't have very many mythic heroes. I suggest that we create a hero, and each of us attempts to influence him. I'm going to suggest rolling for this bit, so godding can be eliminated.
ewancummins 05-24-07, 09:10 PM	New month now? What month is it , then? Can we get a post with a month header on the IC thread? I think that would reduce any possible confusion. Thanks. -Ewan
Janusunaj 05-24-07, 09:29 PM	I'll edit.
ewancummins 05-24-07, 09:34 PM	Myconid action!!!!! Hell yeah! Myconids freaking rock the house!
d24478667 05-24-07, 09:34 PM	The familial crisis has been averted. I'm staying.
Delfedd 05-24-07, 09:35 PM	Yay! Frostbite!
ewancummins 05-24-07, 09:42 PM	Glad to hear you'll be staying.:)
d24478667 05-24-07, 09:42 PM	Glad to hear you'll be staying.:) Believe me, so am I. ;)
riverrock 05-24-07, 11:02 PM	Not Me. Thunderblade Thunderblade is a bastard sword of immense power. When it is drawn, thunder crackles in the far off distance. Forged into it's core is the very essence of a storm, the crackling lightning and stormy thunder. The hilt of the sword is three see serpents intertwining. Bastard Sword +5 Shocking Burst sword. Call lightning 3/day, Shatter 3/day Control Weather 3/day cl 20 Two pieces Call lightning 4/day, shatter 4/day, control weather 4/day. Three Pieces Bastard Sword +6 shocking burst. Call lightning 5/day, Shatter 5/day, Control weather 5/day Four pieces Bastard Sword +6 shocking burst. Thundering burst Call lightning 5/day, Shatter 5/day, Control weather 5/day, Elemental Swarm 1/day, Not earth. Crown of stars: +2 int, wis, & cha. Fly 6/day, maximized magic missile 4/day. Two pieces +3 Int, wis, & cha. Overland flight 4/day, Fly 8/day, Maximized magic missile 5/day Three Pieces +5 Int, Wis & Cha Overland flight 5/day, Fly 8/day, maximized magic missile 5/day Four Pieces +6 Int, Wis & cha Overland flight 5/day, Fly 8/day, maximized magic missile 5/day, +2 intellegence wisdom or charisma to all allies within 30 feet. Armor of Dark Comand: This armor is forged from the cloth of the darkest night. It gives off an awesome power which lends the ability to lead +5 Fullplate of silent moves . The wearer gains Leadership, +4 charisma, Allies within 30 feet gain darkvision 60 ft and darkness 2/day. If your allies move outside of this radius, they lose these abilities. Two Pieces The wearer gains Leadership, +4 charisma +4 leadership score, Allies within 60 feet gain darkvision 60 feet and darkness 4/day. Three Pieces The wearer gains Leadership, +4 charisma, +4 leadership score, Allies within 60 feet gain darkvision 60 feet and darkness 4/day. Summon Nightmare 1/month. You gain a Nightmare, a powerful flaming horse. You may only have one Nightmare at a time. This Nightmare is your alignment. Four Pieces Cloak of swift travel The cloak of swift travel is said to have been stolen from the east wind. There is no such known entity, but such legends cannot be proclaimed false. The cloak is green and has pictures of leaves sewn into the edges. Speed increase +10 +2 Dexterity Expeditious retreat 4/day, haste 3/day. As an additional power, a strong eastern wind always seems to blow near the wearer. The wearer can turn into a medium sized air elemental for up to one hour every day, split up as the wearer desires. All of the artifacts that the wearer wields continue to be in effect. Two pieces Speed increase +15 +3 dexterity Expeditious retreat 5/day, haste 4/day. The wearer can decide if the wind comes from the east or the west. The wearer can turn into a medium or large air elemental for up to two hours, split up as he wishes. All of the artifacts that the wearer wields continue to be in effect. Three pieces Speed increase +20 +4 dexterity Expeditious Retreat 5/day, haste 4/day. The wearer can decide which direction the wind comes from, although he cannot stop the wind. The wearer can turn into a medium through huge elemental up to four hours a day, divided as he chooses. All of the artifacts that the wearer wields continue to be in effect. Four pieces Speed increase +20 +5 dexterity, Expeditious retreat 5/day, haste 5/day. The wearer has complete control over the direction and speed of the wind. The wearer can turn into a medium through greater elemental for up to 6 hours, split up as he wishes. All of the artifacts that the wearer wields continue to be in effect.
d24478667 05-25-07, 07:17 AM	Ewancummings, RotF, is the coral colony seaweed crisis still happening?
ewancummins 05-25-07, 10:26 AM	I'm thinking so- although it I imagine decades have passed by since the last post[ maybe longer]. Now, the situation might be different. We should either PM each other to determine how to adress this, or else one of us just post something cool and get it rolling again.
Camu 05-25-07, 10:32 AM	note: ooulzoth constantly uses different ways of talking, but he doesn't know he does that and he has only a little control ove it, just so you know
Camu 05-25-07, 12:39 PM	the backwards talking is just to show ooulzoth starts to alienate from the others, talking sometimes in strange languages. It looks weird, but you can still read it to know what it says.
Delfedd 05-25-07, 01:34 PM	Yeah... but every god here can understand it. Due to the "Understanding every language." So you could just say, "Speaking in his strange language, Ooulzoth says..."
Camu 05-25-07, 01:39 PM	it's cooler this way :) andd then i always have to type that again, but i'll do it with large texts, don't worry ooze horror is a prstige class, like acolyte of the skin, but you carry the ooze inside. it's like many of the other horror classes from BoVD, but then something i made myself i'll post it later
d24478667 05-25-07, 05:38 PM	Also, RotF, I would think that the bow would still be outside the city, seeing as it just fell there.
Illeveun Bloodblaze 05-25-07, 07:27 PM	As an answer, yes d24478667, Lexius did ignore Frostbite, because he feels that killing Frostbite instead, would be an evil action, because Frostbite did nothing, and Gylkllivar killed Lexius' father, so teh commiters must be punished.
d24478667 05-25-07, 07:52 PM	But Rythe'al wanted to die. He realized he sinned. He asked for the execution. Therefore Glykllivar is innocent. Therefore killing her would be evil. The thing is, Frostbite would be happier with the outcome, and kinda asked for it. How is that evil?
Illeveun Bloodblaze 05-25-07, 08:21 PM	Ryth'eal did not ask for the execution, he asked for punishment.The baring of the neck was more of a symbolic gesture. The punishment had not been decided yet. Also, Lexius would not let innocents be harmed, which is why he called off the war, adnn will not attack Frostbite.
d24478667 05-25-07, 08:24 PM	He also stretched out his neck and asked Kur-ah to kill him. When Kur-ah didn't, Glykllivar did, still fulfilling Rythe'als base request. As I said, that makes Glykllivar innocent. If Lexius has issues with harming innocents, then why would he attack Glykllivar?
Return of the Flumph 05-25-07, 09:32 PM	Lexius has an irrational grudge. That's what his personality is like. I don't think there's any reason to accost his player for roleplaying.
d24478667 05-25-07, 10:17 PM	I wasn't trying to attack Illeveun Bloodhaze; I apologize. I should not have been telling you how to play your god. And just so you know, if anyone that attacked Rythe'al or helped Glykllivar get rid of him, Frostbite isn't innocent. Seeing as he shot Rythe'al and stopped Lexius from grabbing Glykllivar. Just a point.
ewancummins 05-25-07, 10:27 PM	Delfedd, are you cool with the abel nest being a small underground colony , split off from the main colony? The intent was not to wipe out your creations en masse, just to show how a group of humans was struggling to survive in a monster ravaged environment. Sorry if I p---d in your kool-aid. I really like the drama that's developed in this thread. The whole ley lines dispute has blossomed into godly wars, the downfall of entire races,noble gestures of self scarifice, the death of old gods, the birth of new gods, etc. It all ties together organically.
d24478667 05-25-07, 11:05 PM	*ahem*attempted noble gestures of self sacrifice.
Kirtanus_Albacron 05-25-07, 11:09 PM	Well, all gods seem to be drama queens, don't they? If you look at mostly all of the campaign settings, in the ancient histories the gods have their fingers in every pie, and then they only take them out at about the time the campaign starts.(In some, like FR, they still have their fingers in all pies. They are the Piemasters):D
Kirtanus_Albacron 05-25-07, 11:17 PM	Um...yes, Ryth'eal ment it symbollically, as his punishment was not decided yet. Which is why I posted the expression, baring the neck.
Delfedd 05-26-07, 12:16 AM	Yeeeah... but we didn't know it at the time. If I'd had time to post, I would have done it. I'm sure a large number of other deities would have done it as well. How would Lexius know it was symbolic?
Evil DM Mk3 05-26-07, 07:38 AM	Don't expect to see me untill Wednesday.
Delfedd 05-26-07, 08:07 PM	http://img186.imageshack.us/img186/4390/lordsofcreationxk7.th.jpg (http://img186.imageshack.us/my.php?image=lordsofcreationxk7.jpg) I updated the map. I moved Daskotan to it's proper place, expanded the plainrunners boundries, added the giants to the picture, put in the Ezra and the solanthi's cities and plateau, added the continent for Amon and my portals. Again, I know that I'm forgetting things. If someone wants to polish this monster off, i would be glad.
Delfedd 05-26-07, 10:52 PM	Check out my post. This is a test of the power of the gods over a single mortal. Michael is a first level cleric currently. I chose cleric because they are more connected to the divine than others. Michael is True neutral, and believes in the universe in general. He has not chosen whether to turn or rebuke undead, as the abel nest had a significant lack of undead. He has not chosen his domains either. The test will involve showing power. When a diety helps Michael, he or she gains +1 on all further checks influencing Michael. I will roll a d20 when two deities present Michael with a choice, and whoever gets the higher roll will influence Michael. I'm picturing Michael being a sort of hercules. Sometimes he is allied with a god, and other times he is enemies with that same god. Some gods take sides very quickly, like hera. So how do we arbitrate this? Well, I have an idea. In addition to the normal pool of AP, there will now be Mortal Divine points. These points will allow you to interact with Michael, directly or indirectly. Your Mortal Divine Point total is equal to the amount of AP used by a non-evolved deity of your level. You can use Evolve form to increase your MAP levels Greater 5, intermediate 4, lesser 3, demigod 2, hero god 1 There are several actions you can use these for. 1 MAP Teach Mortal- this is indirect teaching, through the wind, the birds, or the insects. Challenge You set a monster or challenge equal to the mortals power level on the mortal. (-) Ease the road You make a challenge simpler 2 MAp Emissary you teach the mortal using an emissary, a devil, a nightmare, an angel, whatever you want. Tool You grant the mortal a tool to use against his foes Omen by showing the mortal a murder of crows or a red sky at morning, he is less likely to do an action. 3 MAP Vision- you show yourself in a vision to the mortal. Powerful challenge- you set a challenge against the mortal that will destroy him if not intervened. (-) Grant Divine Ability: This can be almost anything. Supernatural strength, invisibility at will, incredible wisdom and foresight... look to myths or the bible. 4 MAP Grant template The mortal gains a template. If the mortal is not the same alignment as you are, this bonus becomes a penalty. This is not just for Michael. This applies to individuals. If you want to start a holy war, you would use Vision to tell your worshiper to "start a holy war with *blank*" This is more expensive then sending him an omen, but it makes it more difficult for your foe to stop you. The issue is that it take an entire turn for the holy war to begin, as the vision must take time to solidify in your mortal's mind. So in some ways, using "guide populous" is better. It would be faster and cheaper, but it would also be much easier for them to stop by simply spending 2 ap to guide your populous NOT to go to a holy war. You get +1 point for every point you spend on Michael, although you cannot do the same thing twice in one turn. For a negative (-) effect, you lose one influence with Michael. If the challenge you set before him is more powerful and no deity intervenes, Michael dies. Each one of these takes one turn to solidify in Michael's mind. So if you teach him the ways of peace and your foe teaches Michael the ways of war, the two points cancel each other. When your bonus with Michael increases to +5, he changes his alignment to within one step of your own. When your bonus with michael increases to +10, he becomes your cleric and you win. The prize if you win? You get to laugh at Morintu, and you get a powerful cleric.
riverrock 05-26-07, 11:22 PM	This seems like a pretty interesting way of influencing an individual. It could definetly open up some good roleplaying possiblities. I'd like to see it in action.
Camu 05-27-07, 05:30 AM	Well i like the idea for michael. but, i'm not completely sure it should ork on any character. for example. god A and god B A has a grudge against B. Bhas created a race of his own, but A hasn't. So A convinces the humans (who believe in every god) o attack the race of B. B notices this and uses a greater power to stop the humans from attacking. No problem here. Example 2 again god A and god B same grudge, but in this case, god A has his own race that only believes in god A. If god A send this race against the race of god B. I don't see how god B can do anything about that as the race of god A only believes in one god. or simply: monotheism vs polytheism
Delfedd 05-27-07, 08:03 AM	That's right. However, in every monotheistic culture, there will be someone more open to polytheistic influences. For example, the golden calf in the book of exodus. The Race of God A could have a cult inside thieir own society
Camu 05-27-07, 08:57 AM	but that would still be only a small portion of the population, and that wont be enough to completely stop the war.
Delfedd 05-27-07, 08:59 AM	That's right. But is enough to a) divide the populous, b) force god A to pay more AP to quell the uprising, and c) undermine absolute faith in god A.
Destrieth 05-27-07, 09:04 AM	I find his lack of faith... disturbing. :emp:
Camu 05-27-07, 09:04 AM	true but still, with the game mechanics, the strong gods would easely dominate the game, even more then before. A strong god can always push the races of the weaker gods. I mean, a demigod can't even use vision from the beginning. So they eater have to spend normal AP to evolve once in there MAP so they can at least use the most powerfull guide ability to make sure no other god can turn them and this also gives me the question, can you stack these guide powers like A uses vision (3map) and then B uses vision(3map)+omen(1map) for 4map in total.
Delfedd 05-27-07, 09:26 AM	That's right. But all that it will do is change one course of action. Also, you are forgetting that any previous bonuses are applied to the roll. So if A has been good to his servant by giving him stuff, helping him out and whatnot, then A will get a bonus. I'll probably add something about clerics. Perhaps its more difficult to change the mind of a cleric (+5?) Also, Destrieth suggested that Michael be a favored soul instead of a cleric. Do you think that would be alright?
Camu 05-27-07, 09:32 AM	it's from the miniatures handbook right? well I don't have the book so I don't know what it does.
Delfedd 05-27-07, 09:34 AM	It's essentially the sorcerer for the cleric. They use charisma to determine their spells, they gain a lot more things (Energy resistance, wings, favored weapons) and whatnot.
Camu 05-27-07, 09:37 AM	sounds a little more fitting, but you deside
Delfedd 05-27-07, 01:22 PM	OK. From now on, Michael is a Favored soul. Does anyone mind if I made halflings?
Camu 05-27-07, 01:39 PM	if you would get a race to +10 like Michael, does that mean it will only listen to you => total monotheism, like Michael would become if you get +10
Delfedd 05-27-07, 02:54 PM	Nope. It would just mean he becomes your cleric. As in, because his life is filled with gods, he knows they all exist. But he only listens to the "true god." Also, why is frostbite randomly leaving the meeting to directly interact with a mortal?
ewancummins 05-27-07, 04:21 PM	Random question: is the prime planar ''Earth'' a sphere, a flat and finite rectangle, or something else entirely? I ask because the outer edges don't seem to match up, and the rift in the mddle might form a barrier to most forms of travel. The Plainsrunners sailed to the swamps where the lizardmen live, yes? That would seem to indicae a round world. I was assuming the world was round.
Delfedd 05-27-07, 04:23 PM	Yeah, from the mapmaking that i've been doing, I think that it's round but we don't have a complete map yet. *shrug*
d24478667 05-27-07, 04:56 PM	Also, the foxflames are the lesser wisps; the remnants of the one that Pholtone shredded. So Frostbite didn't leave; he just focused through a lesser messenger.
Camu 05-28-07, 10:33 AM	what are Michaels stats, like his ability scores and such?
Delfedd 05-28-07, 10:42 AM	I haven't really thought of those yet. I do know he has a very high wisdom and charisma. Other than that, i'm not sure. Why?
Camu 05-28-07, 10:56 AM	no particular reason, just curious. but certain effect you can give him might influence his stats like the supernatural ability's & templates.
d24478667 05-28-07, 11:28 AM	Also, what about people who evolved? Do they get another MAP?
Delfedd 05-28-07, 11:36 AM	No. You have to spend AP to get another MAP.
d24478667 05-28-07, 12:02 PM	I don't understand; Technically, gods that did evolve spent AP. I am asking if they get a bonus to MAP, as if the to values correspond. I see nothing about spending AP for MAP in the OP on the topic. EDIT: Nevermind, I just saw it.
Delfedd 05-28-07, 12:35 PM	Nope. I think I mentioned it in a later post. The values don't correspond because they come from different sources. Like... A wizard 10/sorcerer 1. The wizard casts as at tenth level, but the sorcerer casts only from first. MAP is like the sorcerer. It's just starting out, so it doesn't advance. Anyway, I don't see how growing wings or something would make you better at convincing people of stuff.
d24478667 05-28-07, 12:38 PM	Well, if you are convincing them to worship your god, and it happens then, yeah, I would be pretty damn convinced.
Delfedd 05-28-07, 12:40 PM	Also. The michael thing. No one else has started doing anything with him. You have no idea where he is going to go. And yes, greater gods do get an advantage. This is because they're greater gods. Maybe the intermediate and lesser gods should work together on this. He could in theory become a worshiper of multiple deities.
Delfedd 05-28-07, 06:13 PM	Arteheyn's action moves both parties away from Morintu. Everyone will be reset to zero if no one takes an action. This means that Michael will go back to a normal life, and probably die of fever. Also, I was reviewing the "Challenge" description. It affects all deities negatively, not just the one who sets the challenge. The logic being that the Gods could not defend Michael. Also Only the silent fungoids creatures walked the earth in great numbers, doing the work of decomposing the uncountable dead. Oh those noble myconoids, doing the duty that no one else would.
ewancummins 05-28-07, 06:51 PM	I cleaned up my post a bit. The effect should remain the same. Basically, she shows him a worst case scenario of Law winning, then a worst case scenario of Chaos winning. That's after the scary vsion of the inital LAW/CHAOS war.
ewancummins 05-28-07, 06:53 PM	Reset to zero? Perfect, just as I intended. Oh, the myconids send their love. :)
ewancummins 05-28-07, 06:55 PM	Riverrock, I like what you are doing. That island sounds cool. You aren't gone for good , I hope?
Delfedd 05-28-07, 07:27 PM	Oh wait... dur. Michael was influenced 5 points to law and 3 points towards good. Because of Arteheyn's vision, it will go back to 2 for law and zero for good.
d24478667 05-28-07, 08:02 PM	But.. why? I mean, Law doesn't alienate good. Law and good are completely seperate. I could understand if I was influencing him towards Chaos, or you were influencing him to Evil, but as is, why? As I understand it, why can't it be, say, 5 for you, 3 for me? Or do I misunderstand on a basic level?
Delfedd 05-28-07, 08:15 PM	You are right. Normally. Normally they wouldn't be cancelled. But Arteheyn used her MAP to move us back. She advocated for him to listen to his heart or something equally Disney-esque, essentially moving him back towards neutrality.
ewancummins 05-28-07, 08:17 PM	I included a bit in the post about how good and evil were reflections of one another, without which neither had meaning. I accidentally edited that bit out when I added the fluffy bits about the world ending. I'll fix it. -Ewan
Delfedd 05-28-07, 08:20 PM	Oh... ah... I may not have stated this specifically, but the Vaati fly without wings. Being half-air elemental and all. ALSO Is there anyone who wants to make another god? I had the most awesomest idea when I was walking through the mall. I can't tell you what exactly, but I will tell you Mannikins
ewancummins 05-28-07, 08:33 PM	Okay, fixed my post. Will stand as is. Cut and paste disasters! Whoosh. Edited the bit about Vaati having wings.
ewancummins 05-28-07, 08:34 PM	Arteheyn did that bit as a tribute to her old friend, Kur-ah. Poor guy, we'll miss him. ;)
Anuvrix 05-28-07, 08:40 PM	Actually, i dont think i will continue posting in LoC. At most i will just watch and maybe post in OOC.
riverrock 05-28-07, 08:45 PM	Riverrock, I like what you are doing. That island sounds cool. You aren't gone for good , I hope? Thanks. Kyrinian isn't gone for good. He's just dissappeared, for reasons known only to him. On another note, we have a lot of major deities who haven't posted in a while. Does anyone know what has happened to these people? Some of them were fufilling major deific roles.
Delfedd 05-28-07, 08:50 PM	Wait... Avunrix... why? comeon man... we love you!
d24478667 05-28-07, 09:05 PM	Yep, we love you so much we want to eat you! Actually, that's just Delfedd. ;)
Anuvrix 05-29-07, 11:43 AM	My main problem is lack of time. If i can manage to find time every day, i will post. Expect periods of 1-2 days when i will not be able to post.
Anuvrix 05-29-07, 11:53 AM	NAME: Mirath Nirik Thought Seer, The Mind Bender. [DR:6] Lesser Diety, Psion 20/Mindspy 10 Symbol: A green spark shaped like a circle on a purple backround. Home: Void Alignment: Chaotic Neutral Domains: Mind Portfolio: Psions, Refugees Worshipers:- Psions, Psychic Monsters Favored Weapon: His Mind Avatar:- A young man, slightly tanned, wearing leather pants and many belts. He has no hair and a green tatoo on his face. this was it right?
riverrock 05-29-07, 06:35 PM	That looks fine, you can go ahead and post.
ewancummins 05-29-07, 08:05 PM	Anuvrix, I'm glad to see you are still with us. Yay- a new god in the mix! Add dungeonpunk and Todd Lockwood art to your portfolio, oh He-of-Many-Belts!;)
Kirtanus_Albacron 05-29-07, 08:06 PM	I was wondering, has Incarnum been created yet? I am asking because Kersys made the dusklings and hinted at incarnum before she left, so would I have to spend points to create it?
ewancummins 05-29-07, 08:12 PM	Dusklings do seem to imply the existence of Incarnum. I'd say it exists, but perhaps people don't yet know much about how to use it.
Delfedd 05-29-07, 08:13 PM	Yes you would. Hints are not blunt statements.
ewancummins 05-29-07, 08:15 PM	Is there an Ethereal domain? I know we don't have an Ethereal Plane[yet]. I mean, is there a cleric domain that relates to the ether? I'd like to possibly bring that into play, through Arteheyn. That way, we have a transitive plane that would connect worlds together and also provide for etheral monsters[ghosts, phase spiders, ethergaunts, whatever].
Delfedd 05-29-07, 08:24 PM	Nope. No etherial domain. I had kind of been imagining that the mirror plane would function as the ethereal plane, once we get the mirror people under control
ewancummins 05-29-07, 09:15 PM	Which planes does the Mirror Plane connect? The Prime Material, TyDw , and...?
Delfedd 05-29-07, 09:18 PM	Not enfermia. Definately the plane of law. Very shiney gears there. Anyway, etherial travel tends not to occur outside the material so...
riverrock 05-29-07, 09:22 PM	Is anyone interested in making a new deity? Because we actually have some one on the waiting list!
ewancummins 05-29-07, 09:23 PM	I'll even blow the AP to bring him in.
ewancummins 05-29-07, 09:23 PM	I can do it now. Arteheyn has points to spare.
Delfedd 05-29-07, 09:24 PM	Not if I do it first! Oooh! :D Edit: Oh blast.
ewancummins 05-29-07, 10:02 PM	Created spiders! I knew I'd overlooked something, making all those insects and giant bugs. Need a predator to keep them in check. Ecology 101!;) Riverrock, think I can nab Spider Domain out of this?
Delfedd 05-29-07, 10:04 PM	Oh, I was reading an article in Dragon about Hextor. It talked about Hextor usurping erythunul's power. It occured to me that pretty soon our gods will get stagnated around Greater. Yes i am protecting my own power base. But I am also trying to make a game where every god is not greater. It would be a good offensive tactic, attacking their faith and then attacking them.
d24478667 05-29-07, 10:05 PM	For some reason I think Frostbite should have the cold domain. Then again, he hasn't particularly done anything for it. On the other hand (1st side again), Winter and Cold go hand in hand. On the other other hand (2nd), perhaps they should be seperate. Now my hands are mixed up.
Delfedd 05-29-07, 10:08 PM	Yeeeah, but you haven't done something with cold. Yet. That is.
ewancummins 05-29-07, 10:14 PM	The new Dragon, with Core Beliefs:Hextor? I've got it on the desk in front of me[ it rocks to work in a bookstore-easy access].
d24478667 05-29-07, 10:15 PM	Okay; can no one take the Cold domain then? I am going to take it soon. How soon depends on a few variables, but in this turn. Probably.
ewancummins 05-29-07, 10:17 PM	I'd suggest Frsotbite modify some races or species to create special cold versions of existing critters[winter wolves, white widow spiders, etc.]. Or perhaps make a plane of eternal wintry chill, inhabited by living snow creatures. Something like that, to show he deserves the Cold domain.
ewancummins 05-29-07, 10:18 PM	Sure, fine with me.
Delfedd 05-29-07, 10:21 PM	Just to spite you, I will take it! MWAHAHA oh wait... not really though. Ewan, what kind of god are you thinking of making? Also, who else wants to think about the reducing DvR power?
ewancummins 05-29-07, 10:25 PM	I was thinking we need some more civilized gods. Perhaps a god of craftsman and artificiers? A mortal craftsman of one of the elder races, now raised to godhood?
d24478667 05-29-07, 10:26 PM	What? Hell no. Frostbite's inferiority complex, which will be developed again soon, is meaningless if someone boots Glykllivar down. Or he'd be depressed if he was put down eternally, never actually reaching her.
Delfedd 05-29-07, 10:33 PM	What? she's still like 6 DvR above you. It's not likely that someone will boot her down that much. If they have that much power, you've got more problems. Wouldn't it be better to have deities which move around through the ranks? Dynamic deities instead of gods who hover around 20, never actually crossing the breach? The craftsman idea is a good one. I like it. What would be the race?
ewancummins 05-29-07, 10:39 PM	Well, probably one of the elder races, as I said. Maybe an ancient wind duke, or one of the lung [do they even have hands to make tools?]. Was also considering the azer. No one's done jack with them since they showed up, ages ago. What about an azer deity with either Craft or Metal domain?
ewancummins 05-29-07, 10:41 PM	The other possibility is an ascended triton, maybe even the one who was builiding the coral palace. He would have crafted a palace, diviing spheres, and lots of other cool stuff.
ewancummins 05-29-07, 10:50 PM	Official request to update Artehehyn's profile to include the following creations: giant insects, speaking beasts, Animal Lords, spiders- both mundane and monstrous varieties, ankhegs, aurumvorax
Evil DM Mk3 05-30-07, 03:06 AM	Hey I am back, however due to the anoying nature of my ISP not allways liking th eforums I may be intermittant. Becasue I was gone can we assume that all of the giants brought back emisaries and loose aligances where formed? Only it was a long time ago now... Oh and nice as it is the game within a game that is the MAP is a waste of space, sorry. As would a reduce DVR power (it would just cycle up and down). Both give powerful gods disporprtionaly too much power (as they can match their lesser oponents and go and do other things too)
Evil DM Mk3 05-30-07, 03:25 AM	Did anyone get the cape yet? If not then I want to get it for the Derro.
Delfedd 05-30-07, 05:19 AM	yup. The giants got the cape. And they brought it to gwyn.
d24478667 05-30-07, 06:28 AM	What? she's still like 6 DvR above you. 8 actually. Still though, I was referring to when Frostbite was a lot closer.
FlyingRoman 05-30-07, 11:15 AM	Hi guys, I think I'm the person on the waiting list that was mentioned earlier. Since riverrock hasn't answered my PM yet I thought I'd post my idea for a god. I suppose he fits the request for some more "civilised" deities someone posted earlier. NAME:Therias Lord of Trade, Coin's Soul [cheesy i know sorry] [DR:6] wizard5/expert10/fighter10 Symbol: A coin with a ship engraving. Home: Void Alignment: Neutral Domains: Commerce [I think its called that] Portfolio: Trade, traders, economy in general Worshipers:Merchants, caravanists (sp?) Favored Weapon: Light Crossbow Avatar: A tall middle-aged man with eerie eyes. (The eyeballs are shaped like coins.) He wears richly embroidered clothes. Sorry if I posted this too early/ was a bit impatient.
Evil DM Mk3 05-30-07, 11:31 AM	Cool beans about the cape. About the god of trade, looks ok, probably expert and wizard levels I would have thought. Maybe fighter (if you include the defenders of the wealth involved in trade.) As for titles, Lord of the Eternal Mint? Laird o' Road an' Ruin?
FlyingRoman 05-30-07, 11:56 AM	I've edited my entry. So if it's approved when do I start?
Evil DM Mk3 05-30-07, 12:37 PM	It is Riverrock's call, but it is likely to be next month after 9pm BST tomorow.
Delfedd 05-30-07, 03:38 PM	First, no, here's the thing. It doesn't take up space. It adds new roleplaying options, and changes the way we play. Second, the reducing the DvR thing is Supposed to cycle gods around. If we don't do this, all of the gods will be stuck around DvR 20, all unwilling to go up one. If anyone else doesn't like these ideas, address them now. I think you and lexius have a problem. If more people don't like it, I'll think about changing it.
Return of the Flumph 05-30-07, 03:45 PM	The mortal AP seems superfluous. I'd rather just say "I spend 1 AP on Teach Populace" and be done with it. Explain to me in detail how the DVR theft would work, and I will say whether or not I like it.
Delfedd 05-30-07, 03:51 PM	Duly noted. How it works is you would pay three ap, target a god (or his followers) and he would immediately lose one ap.
Return of the Flumph 05-30-07, 03:53 PM	No. It needs to be much harder to pull off than that.
Delfedd 05-30-07, 04:00 PM	Alright. I was thinking about that. I didn't want to make things overly complex, so... First you must attack the person. It must be a successful attack. After the attack, you spend 2 ap per divine rank you want to drain away. This presents a better way to negate a deities power than killing him.
Camu 05-30-07, 04:57 PM	I think that idea still ***** It's just a good way for the greate rgods to push all he lower ones around, as they have the most ap to begin with same with the mortal AP those things both give the greater gods another edge over the rest.
Delfedd 05-30-07, 05:11 PM	Destrieth just talked to me and convinced me that it probably isn't a great idea. At least until there are more greater gods. When there are more greaters, i'm going to suggest it again.
Evil DM Mk3 05-30-07, 05:24 PM	To be honest there is not a huge amount of movment in that camp. Most gods have not gone up class or even rank in fact, the cost in AP of getting to greater is prohibative as it is.
Return of the Flumph 05-30-07, 05:32 PM	Rather than instituting the DVR attack system, perhaps we should just make it harder to increase your divine rank in the first place. If we start getting too many greaters (which hasn't happened yet) we can increase the point cost to 4 or 5.
Evil DM Mk3 05-30-07, 05:39 PM	That sound better a sort of "limited room at the top" concept.
Delfedd 05-30-07, 05:44 PM	hm... Here's something. If the "limited room" thing happens, what happens to the other gods?
Return of the Flumph 05-30-07, 05:48 PM	Limited room? I just suggested that we increase the AP cost of the "increase DVR" action. Who proposed anything about limited room?
Evil DM Mk3 05-30-07, 06:20 PM	I ment to say it gives the feel that getting to teh top is harder the more who are allready there. It was a metaphore, the more who are up teh top the harder you push to squeeze in.
riverrock 05-31-07, 01:59 AM	Hi guys, I think I'm the person on the waiting list that was mentioned earlier. Since riverrock hasn't answered my PM yet I thought I'd post my idea for a god. I suppose he fits the request for some more "civilised" deities someone posted earlier. NAME:Therias Lord of Trade, Coin's Soul [cheesy i know sorry] [DR:6] wizard5/expert10/fighter10 Symbol: A coin with a ship engraving. Home: Void Alignment: Neutral Domains: Commerce [I think its called that] Portfolio: Trade, traders, economy in general Worshipers:Merchants, caravanists (sp?) Favored Weapon: Light Crossbow Avatar: A tall middle-aged man with eerie eyes. (The eyeballs are shaped like coins.) He wears richly embroidered clothes. Sorry if I posted this too early/ was a bit impatient. Approved. You can post now.
Evil DM Mk3 05-31-07, 03:55 PM	It occurs that (if it has not been invented yet, I can't quit recall, I know it was talked about but I am not sure if it arrived) Binding could be a form of Ritual Magic.
ewancummins 05-31-07, 07:27 PM	Apologies for not creating a god! I was about to do so, with my very next post. I'll just hold that god in reserve, I suppose. Good to have Therias aboard. Look forward to seeing him in play.
riverrock 05-31-07, 11:45 PM	Not me. Thunderblade Bastard Sword +5 Shocking Burst sword. Call lightning 3/day, Shatter 3/day Control Weather 3/day cl 20 Two pieces Call lightning 4/day, shatter 4/day, control weather 4/day. Three Pieces Bastard Sword +6 shocking burst. Call lightning 5/day, Shatter 5/day, Control weather 5/day Four pieces Bastard Sword +6 shocking burst. Thundering burst Call lightning 5/day, Shatter 5/day, Control weather 5/day, Elemental Swarm 1/day, Not earth Full set +7 Shocking Burst thundering Call lightning 5/day, shatter 5/day control weather 5/day elemental swarm 1/day (not earth), Whirlwind attack. 3/day with the whirlwind attack All creatures within a twenty foot radius are attacked by the whirlwing attack Crown of stars: +2 int, wis, & cha. Fly 6/day, maximized magic missile 4/day. Two pieces +3 Int, wis, & cha. Overland flight 4/day, Fly 8/day, Maximized magic missile 5/day Three Pieces +5 Int, Wis & Cha Overland flight 5/day, Fly 8/day, maximized magic missile 5/day Four Pieces +6 Int, Wis & cha Overland flight 5/day, Fly 8/day, maximized magic missile 5/day, +2 intellegence wisdom or charisma to all allies within 30 feet. Full Set +8 Intellegence, Wisdom, and Charisma. Fly 100 ft (good), +4 int wis or cha to allies in 60 feet. Armor of Dark Comand: +5 Fullplate of silent moves . The wearer gains Leadership, +4 charisma, Allies within 30 feet gain darkvision 60 ft and darkness 2/day. If your allies move outside of this radius, they lose these abilities. Two Pieces The wearer gains Leadership, +4 charisma +4 leadership score, Allies within 60 feet gain darkvision 60 feet and darkness 4/day. Three Pieces The wearer gains Leadership, +4 charisma, +4 leadership score, Allies within 60 feet gain darkvision 60 feet and darkness 4/day. Summon Nightmare 1/month. You gain a Nightmare, a powerful flaming horse. You may only have one Nightmare at a time. This Nightmare is your alignment. Four Pieces In addition, The nightmare becomes a Cauchemare. He gains +6 charisma. His leadership score increases by +6. Full Set Add the Paragon template to the Cauchmare. You gain the ability to Dominate Monster (DC 25) three times per day. Cloak of swift travel Speed increase +10 +2 Dexterity Expeditious retreat 4/day, haste 3/day. As an additional power, a strong eastern wind always seems to blow near the wearer. The wearer can turn into a medium sized air elemental for up to one hour every day, split up as the wearer desires. All of the artifacts that the wearer wields continue to be in effect. Two pieces Speed increase +15 +3 dexterity Expeditious retreat 5/day, haste 4/day. The wearer can decide if the wind comes from the east or the west. The wearer can turn into a medium or large air elemental for up to two hours, split up as he wishes. All of the artifacts that the wearer wields continue to be in effect. Three pieces Speed increase +20 +4 dexterity Expeditious Retreat 5/day, haste 4/day. The wearer can decide which direction the wind comes from, although he cannot stop the wind. The wearer can turn into a medium through huge elemental up to four hours a day, divided as he chooses. All of the artifacts that the wearer wields continue to be in effect. Four pieces Speed increase +20 +5 dexterity, Expeditious retreat 5/day, haste 5/day. The wearer has complete control over the direction and speed of the wind. The wearer can turn into a medium through greater elemental for up to 6 hours, split up as he wishes. All of the artifacts that the wearer wields continue to be in effect. Full Set Speed increase 30, +7 dexterity, Gust of wind 4/day Expeditious retreat 5/day, haste 5/day freedom of movement, the ability to turn into an air elemental monolith for 8 hours a day, The ability to change the winds direction, speed, or strength Staff of the first tree: This staff is made of old and gnarled wood and has powerful symbols of different magics covering it. It was said to have been made from the first dropped branch of the first tree. It was said that a lightning bolt hit the branch and infused it with it's magic. +4/+4 staff +2 Wisdom 3/day entangle, Lightning bolt, Dispel Magic the staff functions as if it where two sizes larger, and functions as a spellstaff The character's lifespan is doubled Second part +3 wisdom 4/day entangle, Lightning bolt, Dispel Magic 1/day Awaken, Trees only. Third Part +5/+5 staff +4 Wisdom 5/day entangle, Lightning bolt, greater Dispel Magic the wielder now has the ability to travel between forests at will. Forests are no impedient, they can walk freely through them The character's lifespan is tripled Fourth Part +5 wisdom 6/day entangle, Lightning bolt, greater Dispel Magic, Phantasmal killer (like a lightning bolt out of the blue) Full set +8 Wisdom 7/day entangle, Lightning bolt, Mordenkains disjunction, phantasmal killer. The character will never die of old age, does not continue aging, and can appear as any age that he or she wants.
Evil DM Mk3 06-01-07, 11:25 AM	"Dark magic" Curses, shadow magic and binding (or not, binding is an odd one). Makes use of the Back-ley. The Ley are lines of power, potential energy, the Back-Ley is a seathing mass of possible pasts and impossible presnets, no inherant power but harnessed this seathing mass alows some interesting powers. It is not normaly possible to bring this "maybes" to more than a fleating existance before they fade again, but creautes can be pulled out of it via rituals. The Shadow creatre template should be used to reprisent these. Despite the similarites these are nothing to do with the Far Realms (impossible and unreal space) as they are POSSIBLE, just not chosen and are not UNREAL, mearly non-existant. Like the differance between the moon being twice the size (possible but did not happen) and it being made out of fairy cow sneezes (impossible) The Back-Ley are an energy matrix, not a plane of existance. As far as reality is concerned it is 2D, you can look in, you can possibly pull stuff out (if you do it comes out quite a strange shape too), but you can't go in.
Destrieth 06-01-07, 11:40 AM	My question is, what does this bring to the setting? It looks pretty frivolous and an excuse to make something just for the sake of making it. I guess what I'm trying to say is, I like the originality but I think we're veering a little off course from dungeons and dragons. Remember, the ideal here is to get a playable setting, and we're setting it up so there's a LOT of stuff to memorize for the potential dungeon master. Your mileage may vary, though.
Evil DM Mk3 06-01-07, 12:29 PM	Well this is mostly an attempt to allow certain things to enter the setting, seeing as last I checked we still lacked a genesis for shaodw magic. No shadow Plane. So I decided to fill the gap in a differant way. Also I intend to use this quite a bit for various things.
Evil DM Mk3 06-02-07, 01:45 PM	Delfedd are you reciving PMs ok? You asked for info, I sent it but never got your opinion back.
Delfedd 06-02-07, 01:58 PM	yeah. I didn't really like the ideas, and i'm a busy guy. I didn't respond to them... sorry.
Evil DM Mk3 06-02-07, 01:58 PM	k fine.
Delfedd 06-03-07, 12:30 AM	Wow! what a shocking turn of events! It turns out that all this time that I've thought that the thread was dying everyone was really just planning to attack me! This is great! Good is finally working together! Thank you guys! THANK YOU! We where actually just discussing how good didn't work together. You timed it perfectly as well. Right as I spent my AP. Wow. great job.
Destrieth 06-03-07, 12:36 AM	I just wish there weren't so many neutral gods. =(
Return of the Flumph 06-03-07, 12:37 AM	Actually, this is not at all what we planned. See, Ooulzoth was supposed to lure Allusia onto the PM where Frostbite and I could ambush her. She would hopefully attract Morintu to help her, at which point Ewan's characters would jump out. But then Frostbite went ahead and made his obvious attempt on Allusia because of a personal grudge, even though he was told not to, and so I decided I needed to attack Morintu before the opportunity was lost.
Destrieth 06-03-07, 12:39 AM	I pretty much smelled something foul from the beginning. Just so you know, your plan was doomed from the start. Alusia doesn't like any of your proposed bait gods. =P
Delfedd 06-03-07, 12:41 AM	This is actually going to make my plan better, and my motive more clear for next turn. Oh yes, there will be a next turn.
Return of the Flumph 06-03-07, 12:41 AM	I was going to have Ooulzoth tell her that something was up with the hobgoblins in the arctic...something involving a remnant kython nest.
Destrieth 06-03-07, 12:43 AM	She doesn't care much about her wordly creations either. She's pretty callous. Though I do have to say it was a well-orchestrated plan. Not as brilliant as our coordinated assault on Amon, but not everyone can be as smart or nefarious as the Lords of Evil. :P
Return of the Flumph 06-03-07, 12:45 AM	And yet, Amon defends you. What a sucker.
Janusunaj 06-03-07, 12:45 AM	Your coordinated assault on Amon should have gotten you eaten by him. I just played along.
Destrieth 06-03-07, 12:47 AM	Ask Delfedd about the results of that match, Janusunaj. We had the advantage due to coordination and artifact power. But I won't argue that point with you since it's so long past. Thanks for defending us though. ;D
Return of the Flumph 06-03-07, 12:47 AM	Your coordinated assault on Amon should have gotten you eaten by him. I just played along. That too.
Janusunaj 06-03-07, 12:51 AM	"IF your attack should have succeeded, then playing a god of an unpopular alignment should be listed in the front page, as suicide."
ewancummins 06-03-07, 12:52 AM	Britmara wanted her sister out of the way, but unharmed. Holed up in Gorgild is much better.
riverrock 06-03-07, 12:53 AM	Well, my post should throw everyone off. I hope none of you saw that coming. Mwuh ha ha...oh, wait. I don't get evil laughter anymore.
Delfedd 06-03-07, 12:55 AM	Arteheyn shouted aloud through her wisp- ''AMON , you self righteous hypocrite, face me, if you've any courage at all! Come out, do nothing god who calls himself an emperor. You think you can rule us? You are truly the father of tyrants, just as others have named you. You've twisted Morintu into a shadow of yourself. I will hurt you for that.'' I resent that :rolleyes: Also, there is a method for my madness of combat Add up the DvR of all deities attacking add the following bonuses +1 for being on their own plane +1 for being a martial deity +1 for having domains like "war" +1 for each artifact you wield +1.5 for every morintu based artifact you wield +2 for being in the sanctum of your home plane.
Return of the Flumph 06-03-07, 12:57 AM	I resent that :rolleyes: Also, there is a method for my madness of combat Add up the DvR of all deities attacking add the following bonuses +1 for being on their own plane +1 for being a martial deity +1 for having domains like "war" +1 for each artifact you wield +1.5 for every morintu based artifact you wield +2 for being in the sanctum of your home plane. Thanks a bunch. See, if you had just posted this awhile earlier, no one would have accused you of godmodding.
Destrieth 06-03-07, 12:58 AM	Because we knew we would be under siege amirite?
ewancummins 06-03-07, 01:08 AM	I think everyone's handling this well. Remember , we cannot kill you guys. No killing a god without consent, right? So we are imprisoning you temporarily. The prison plane is a dark void[no air, even], with a negative energy dominant trait[healing is negated] , strong anti magic quailites , and only one egress[that's sealed for now].
Destrieth 06-03-07, 01:26 AM	Everyone make note: for all intents and purposes, Enfermia, Law, Air, and basically everything of Morintu's and Alusia's are closed off to all exit and entry. No interaction can take place between Alusia and the outside. Mortals are free to come and go as they please, but divine entities simply cannot breach the barriers extended to all four planes. So begins the Long Peace.
ewancummins 06-03-07, 01:27 AM	Cool beans! Wonder what's going on in there.... ;)
Delfedd 06-03-07, 01:32 AM	Ewan, we're still going to do that lizardfolk/plainsrunner interaction thing, right?
ewancummins 06-03-07, 01:33 AM	Yeah, let's do that.
Delfedd 06-03-07, 01:34 AM	Good. Because I'll be bored out of my MIND without it.
ewancummins 06-03-07, 02:36 AM	Almost ended the fight, but realized you may want it to go on a bit longer. Must sleep now, but you can always PM me. I'll check tomorrow.
Evil DM Mk3 06-03-07, 03:40 AM	This is too perfect. What are the rules concering the prison plane, I assume you can't make portals.
Camu 06-03-07, 04:44 AM	love the prison plane idea
Delfedd 06-03-07, 08:38 AM	I'm assuming that you can't make portals, yes. But, I'm planning on making the prison in my own image, a sort of Carceri, I'm still getting souls remember. So if you guys have a spirit you need to get rid of, simply toss it to me. Also, two days ago I could have sworn that Lords of Creation was dying. I was trying to reinvigorate it with a little civil war, was surprised and pleased to find the gods of good FINALLY uniting. The Kyrinian thing was a good twist. Also, Gwyn may wish to be rid of the cloak. I drew my inspiration from the lord of the rings for the artifacts, and your entire line may find themselves under my direct control.
Camu 06-03-07, 09:25 AM	I don't know if you can alter it, you didn't create the prison plane, so you need permission of the god who created it to be able to change it i think Why would there go souls to that plane?
Evil DM Mk3 06-03-07, 09:26 AM	The cloak is being treated liek most of the eseimed gifts. It is carefuly locked away in a box where it shall never tarnish or rot. Nothing as uncooth as being USED. (kinda like what happened with the dwarven rings, no?)
Camu 06-03-07, 09:29 AM	(according to the silmarilion, the dwarves where made resistant to the evil in the world, so sauron couldn't control them directly, but he influenced there behavior and boosted there greed. This caused the dwarves to collect much treasure. The legend is that every dwarven treasure started with just a single ring then dragons claimed most of the treasures)
Destrieth 06-03-07, 09:30 AM	Morintu is the god of Death, basically if the souls can't go to him it's the same problem we had with Avnuk: shunted souls. The Dwarven Rings weren't kept in boxes. They were worn, and many of them were lost. Also, I would have to cry a big fat foul if Morintu could do nothing while stuck in that box, unless you're prepared to roll him a new god of somewhat equal stature. Going to do that Camu? No? then hush. :P
Evil DM Mk3 06-03-07, 09:32 AM	I was under the imprssion (well, missaprihention) they where locked away with th rest of the treasure. In any case the gifts to the Giant king ARE locked away nice and safe and are not used. In any case souls don't go to planes, they go to GODS. Wherever they are. Anyoingly I got an interestign idea for a "civilised" god last night, but I am already doing two..
Camu 06-03-07, 09:35 AM	well you can't have it all ;)
Evil DM Mk3 06-03-07, 09:38 AM	Too true.
Evil DM Mk3 06-03-07, 09:46 AM	By the way guys, can I make this clear? The dieing down of posting tuesday-thursday is NOT the thread dieing, it happens very week after peopel blow their AP over the weekend. On the subjct of giants. I glossed over it, prehaps I ought to have spent AP, and I will if someone can refute this arugment, but when a race has their god RIGHT THERE in fornt of them, not an avatar their real honest to goodness god, and he is, as well as their leader THE PLACE THEY GO WHEN THEY DIE and their society has an inbuilt hatred for evil (it is all there in the culture derived from how they came to be). Changing them to the unimaginative MM giants for 2 AP is not going to happen, allright?
Destrieth 06-03-07, 09:49 AM	There will always be dissention. It's like eating the fruit of knowledge, or opening pandora's box; once someone knows about something, it's always in the back of their mind. Consider it the tarnishing, or the breaking in, of a fresh society. I'm sure most of them would be brought to heel, but there's always a few deviants. Just my opinion. [EDIT: Post 2k. Wooo!]
Evil DM Mk3 06-03-07, 09:53 AM	Fine, then deviants there shall be, however they still have the soul issue to deal with... Hang on... I will have to check this with Delfedd but what if we altered teh teach poulous (in light of these evnetns) to a create populous Death giants, (forget teh book) ie the giants saw the whole death problem and tried to break away that way. The problem is, which tribes, certainly not the Eldrich giants (they know what really happened regarding their origins). You understand my anoyance though right? It would be liek me saying Teach Devils Chairty, Devils are now CG, 2 AP.
Delfedd 06-03-07, 12:05 PM	I do understand your annoyance. The difference, however, Is that devils are not naturally inclined to give money to the poor. Certainly the giants will be united when you are there, but when you're out of sight they'll start squabbling again. They think that their race is in the right, and is If the teach devils (charity) gained them a numerous amount of new souls, then surely the giants would give freely. If Alusia was not in control of Enfermia right now, the devils would be locked in a power struggle. Also, I wouldn't be altering the plane. I would be creating a new plane inside of the old one. Alright. The box thing is cool. Although in time you may find that the cloak has escaped.
Evil DM Mk3 06-03-07, 12:10 PM	What, exactly, did you belive happened when the giants where "taught Racism". What shifts occured? You mentioned alignment (that was the big thing that got me BTW). I know I am sticking my hand is a wasp's nest when I say this but for referance yes it is possiblt to be racist and Good. Most of the world was untill the mid 1900s Oh and as for the box, unless it is needed for ceremonial reasons, they will only realise it has gone if the see it elsewhere.
Camu 06-03-07, 12:23 PM	I think this thing is just an example of the problems we would have get with the mortal ap points a greater god with more ap can easely cause much problems with the races of a much weaker god who will have to use all his precious ap (he has much less to spend) to restore the order. This is wh I say that the player who created a race has the choice if his race may be altered by only his god, or by more Morintu's devls are probably the first catagory while my demodand are shared with Blight
Evil DM Mk3 06-03-07, 12:27 PM	I have no problem with racist giants, seeing as racism can be as "benevolant" (not quite the right word but the best I can do) as "they are liek children" a common DnD motiff. But the spliting of the nation in two and the aligment changes are very drastic and are a majour leap from what was understood about giants. They are many with one culture, they are Good to the bone.
Delfedd 06-03-07, 12:42 PM	Racism within the different giant races. So Fire giants think that cloud giants are inferior and evil. Since they're good to the bone, they would certainly be a lot angrier to them, and when they have a council (or something), the borders will be divided more along the race line. So the Fire giants and the cloud giants and the mountain giants will be bickering a lot more. Giants move away from the other races, so the races become a lot further apart physically, and are more agressive to giants within their cities.
Destrieth 06-03-07, 12:53 PM	I think Kakavindus is pretty much on hiatus... what should we do about that?
Delfedd 06-03-07, 12:57 PM	Oh, I'm going to add something to the attacking. Defending against an attack by spending No AP gives you half strength. So Amon would have an effective dvr of 11. This doesn't allow you to attack another god without spending AP, it can only be used for defense. This is how I devoured Amon.
Camu 06-03-07, 12:59 PM	eh? I'm confused, are there new rules qua attacking a god?
Delfedd 06-03-07, 12:59 PM	They help to ajudicate the attacking.
Evil DM Mk3 06-03-07, 01:04 PM	AH!! Well that is fine. They all think they are the best giants, they are also all good. They are also all loyal to the King (Becasue that is Right At The Core of being a giant). Competative, rowdy but mostly good natured. Delfedd, Gaints are now British Rugby (please note NOT football) fans. :rolleyes: On the issue of the king they WILL recognise his superiority, he is a GOD. But he is a cloud giant. That does not (or for cloud giants DOES) mean that cloud giants are the best. Anyway he allready rules by advisors ect, I may try somthing else, somthing a bit more formal, later though. And so long as people are fair and are willing to role play no rules of any kind should go near god v god combat, partailly becasue certain gods could easiy make themsleves untouchable.
Delfedd 06-03-07, 01:11 PM	These aren't absolute rules. These help people to determine their relative power level in comparason with other deities. This is mainly so we don't have long debates about who dies and who lives. Also, while Morintu is trapped in the prison plane, I'm going to make him a vestige. It'll probably take a bit of time, but it'll be worth it.
Evil DM Mk3 06-03-07, 01:12 PM	Well we allready have ritual magic and a god of pacts, I say binders are long over due! As for guidlines I assume we can ask for special consideration, for example Blight's sanctum (the left eye) is a literal deathtrap to outsiders (when he ahs had visitors there he has given them instuctions on where to stand every now and again). If that is so then fine.
Evil DM Mk3 06-03-07, 01:15 PM	Oh and if things slow down guys feel free to investigate my forshadowing.
Delfedd 06-03-07, 01:16 PM	Yup. That's why you get +2 for the sanctum. That also stacks with the fact that you're on your own plane
ewancummins 06-03-07, 01:28 PM	My intentions for the prison plane: It's empty. There literally isn't anything inside but space. No light, not matter, nothing. Just a vast potential space. Over time , it could be altered by its inmates, as they learn more about it. Gods trapped within could conjure things out of the void, or perhaps use captured souls as raw materials to build a more comfortable home. No gates or portals, except the [currently sealed] entrance. Souls of the dead can still be drawn inside,if they are snagged by Morintu's chains[ like the Mists snatching people into Ravenloft, perhaps]. Shades of Hellraiser. ;) Not all souls go there, of course. Just some. Communication is possible by magical means, as Arteheyn isn't an overgod- she cannot completely cut Amon and Morintu off from the rest of the universe. The demiplane/prison world is like Ravenloft or the fabled Demiplane of Imprisonment. Amon and Morintu can play around with the insides all they like, but cannot easily escape. As the plane's creator, Arteheyn has some power there, but she cannot alter the interior without entering it herself[soemthing she's unlikely to do]. If either of you want to escape, PM me and we can start working it out in story. That's cooler than simply saying ''I break out, hahahahhahahahaha! All your APs were wasted.'' I certainly don't want to rob you of all the fun of playing, though. That would be lame. Let me know how you guys want to handle this.
Delfedd 06-03-07, 01:32 PM	Well technically you should have to pay more to lock us in. Essentially what I'm planning to do is create a Demiplane inside of the prison plane, where all my fun souls can travel to. This place could also function as the plane of shadows eventually.
Evil DM Mk3 06-03-07, 01:34 PM	It could, but I kinda allready delt with the need for that. A doubling up WOULD be creation for creation sake, unless, of course, you use the Back-Ley to do it.
Return of the Flumph 06-03-07, 01:36 PM	About the attack/defend rules: That sounds okay, but defending should cost fewer AP than attacking. 1 or 2 points.
d24478667 06-03-07, 01:43 PM	Briefly, I would like to apologize that the attack did not happen as planned to all involved. My internet had crashed over the last 24 hours, and I was unable to even know that it had started.
ewancummins 06-03-07, 01:48 PM	If I pay more to lock you in, the way Gorgild was sealed, would that make it much harder for anyone else to break you out?
Delfedd 06-03-07, 01:52 PM	Depends on their power level really. I'm pretty sure that'd work.
Destrieth 06-03-07, 02:54 PM	Well, I kind of devised the planar locking to keep people out, not in. I think it's a little more fair that way; also note that not only is Gorgild locked, but Enfermia, and the planes of Law and Air too.
Evil DM Mk3 06-03-07, 02:59 PM	Lock in? Lock out? Just a matter of direction.
Destrieth 06-03-07, 03:13 PM	Not necessarily. When it becomes a prison instead of a fortress it throws the idea out of balance in my mind.
ewancummins 06-03-07, 04:41 PM	I am setting up a possible CLASH OF THE TITANS! Oh yeah.
Return of the Flumph 06-03-07, 04:47 PM	Damnit, I wanted to make that joke.
ewancummins 06-03-07, 04:47 PM	I am going to dinner and a concert with my wife. I'll be out of the loop for the next 7 or 8 hours. Will check the thread again then. Assume Arteheyn remains at the gateway to the prison world, guarding it for now. She's not done talking with Morintu.
Destrieth 06-03-07, 04:55 PM	now Flumph, don't you think that's just more than a little unfair? you've won your victory, let us evildoers plot and connive in peace.
Evil DM Mk3 06-03-07, 04:57 PM	As I point out on the main thread, not really. Besides some of them have lost faith in Amon and so may not care.
Return of the Flumph 06-03-07, 05:01 PM	Actually, I was about to send a messenger to the titans just as you posted. That is how she would have reacted, assuming she was already planning to interfere.
Camu 06-03-07, 05:30 PM	although i love your persuasions to get the titans to your sides, who is playing the titans? because you guys can go on for hours like that without the titans chosing one of you? just asking
Destrieth 06-03-07, 05:31 PM	We're going to make Ewan have to read the whole thing in awhile. ;P
Evil DM Mk3 06-03-07, 05:37 PM	Actually those arguments are pretty much all there needs to be. Leave it and let Ewan decide from what is there. I reckon between us we got all the disolusioned Titans and some of the Amon loves us group.
Camu 06-03-07, 05:37 PM	ok then, carry on ;)
Evil DM Mk3 06-03-07, 05:38 PM	Because this is GOING to come up if they go off to Blight's realm, is there a part/half titan template?
Camu 06-03-07, 05:48 PM	not that i know off, maybe an adaptation of half celestial
ewancummins 06-04-07, 01:19 AM	If people want my opinion, it's this: Half of the race has rejected all the gods. They adhere to a new philosophy that teaches that the gods are enemies of freedom and justice. The rule of gods must be replaced with the rule of the titans, in order for the world to become a paradise. These titans honestly think that they are doing the right thing- which is part of what makes them so dangerous. The other half of the race is divided and confused. Some familes and individuals have taken service with Blight or Alusia. These titans aren't going to remain good aligned much longer. Others have placed their faith in Gyllkivar. Another faction are monolatrists who remain faithful to Amon, believing he will return soon.
Return of the Flumph 06-04-07, 01:51 AM	I didn't ask for their faith. Just peace. Aside from a handful of extremists, can it be assumed that most of the Amon loyalists took up my offer and were returned to TyDwy?
Evil DM Mk3 06-04-07, 03:11 AM	So I did get some Titans then? Yay! Probalby only a few dozen but still, Yay!
Destrieth 06-04-07, 10:29 AM	Well then. The titans who have vowed to serve Alusia will be welcomed into Enfermia, I suppose. They are mortal now, so they can still come and go as they please. (otherwise I'd have quite a soul conundrum)
Evil DM Mk3 06-04-07, 10:47 AM	Sorry why are they mortal??
Return of the Flumph 06-04-07, 02:38 PM	Where did Blight get that huge slave population?
Evil DM Mk3 06-04-07, 02:40 PM	Vile and forced breeding.
Evil DM Mk3 06-04-07, 02:48 PM	What domain goes with the concept Democracy?
Camu 06-04-07, 02:49 PM	liberation domain ;) or community
Return of the Flumph 06-04-07, 04:00 PM	Okay...when did that influx and breeding of slaves take place? Where did you get the original stock? Did you spend AP?
Evil DM Mk3 06-04-07, 04:41 PM	It was intedned as a slightly more detailed modifaction of a deific plane. Mortal hunters have been doing the bounty hunter bit for ages after all. No AP needed.
Camu 06-04-07, 05:11 PM	I even RP some of the bounty hunting, a group of farastu that took a job from the myconids, so it's in there
ewancummins 06-04-07, 05:17 PM	''Bear him off to torment unending.''
ewancummins 06-04-07, 05:52 PM	Titan ur-priests. Hell yeah! ''We will build a new city up to the sky. This day all gods die!'' I'm thinking of posting this on the races and cultures thread. What do you guys think? Especially interested in Janusunaj's opinion. The Apostates are the titans allied with the psurlons. They are ruled by a philospher king[ always a powerful ur-priest]. Current whereabouts unknown, but somewher on earth[or under it?]. The Faithful of Amon are under the protection of Gylkllivar. They live... where do they live? The Vengeful are allied with Alusia. They live in Enfermia. They have yet to learn of their brethern's destruction, but if they do, they will be even angrier and more convinced they made the right decision in embracing Lady Vengeance. The Free are living with Father Blight. They live on the Nameless Plane. Ironically enough, they are not free at all, but fast becoming slaves to their own lusts and baser emotions. Thus does Blight corrupt everything he touches.
Return of the Flumph 06-04-07, 09:44 PM	The Amon loyalists-and those who just want peace-are back in TyDwy, and have agreed to cease all hostilities between themselves and the gods.
Janusunaj 06-04-07, 09:56 PM	The Titan drow interest me immensely. Its what I wanted from Morintu, good man.
ewancummins 06-04-07, 11:39 PM	I've updated the background for the tritons, including some stuff about the Coral City[ may need a better name].
riverrock 06-05-07, 12:27 AM	I have a few things that I would like to bring up 1. Missing Deities. We have a lot of deities who haven't posted in a while. Does any one know what has happened to them? Should we come up with some sort of system for when a deity stops posting? 2. Humans. Currently, there are only three human cultures of note. Should we maybe work on diversifying humans? 3. I'm kind of interested in playing another deity. I have a few concepts in mind. Would you all be okay if I started playing an additional character, if I posted the god OOC first?
ewancummins 06-05-07, 12:31 AM	The missing gods? I figure they are mostly sleeping. Maybe some are off creating their own worlds? They might be the source for races and monsters we haven't created[ which are presumably not very common]. Some gods may have faded from existence.
ewancummins 06-05-07, 12:33 AM	Plainsrunners, Swamper humans, and the Grasslands/Ankheg/farmer people. That's three cultures. Ill do some more stuff with the guys Art influenced early on.
Return of the Flumph 06-05-07, 12:40 AM	Another character? Awesome. Although I kind of think that instead of bringing in new gods, we should first give some old dieties over to new players. Diversifying humans...perhaps Gly will adopt a seafaring tribe that reminds her of her old sea giants.
riverrock 06-05-07, 12:41 AM	That could certainly be an option. The one thing I worry about though is an old player coming back and wanting to resume playing their old deity- only to find some one has taken over that deity.
riverrock 06-05-07, 12:46 AM	I wasn't expecting the human thing to get a response so quickly. Thank you ewancummins.:)
ewancummins 06-05-07, 12:49 AM	I just added a bit where they see SAGE from far below. UFO sighting, and possible contact opportunity.
Evil DM Mk3 06-05-07, 02:10 AM	I have no porblem with you taking anotehr god, but imagine what would ahppen if we used all teh old gods at once?! So much AP in such a small space, chaos would break out. I wish to make a point however. Whatever they are becomign slaves to they are in fact GENUINLY being treated as teh companions and freinds of Father Blight. They ahve been given what they wanted.
Camu 06-05-07, 03:24 AM	don't forget that human tribe that learned how to contol oozes, by going through a horrific ritual.
Camu 06-05-07, 06:02 AM	Ok, I also had another idea for a second god for me to play. The god will come from another world, a devastated world that the living plane will pass by. It will bring this lonely god with it, and eventually back to our cluster of planes. Although Ooulzoth isn't going to create him, I will spend the AP to create him, to keep it fair I already asked riverrock permission for the domain. I'm still not sure if I make him a demigod or a lesser deity. He will be similar to the god of the giants in that he is constantly in avatar form and that he acts like the ruler of there primitive sociaty. The Nashrou race will be slightly different then how it appears in the MM IV. I'm not sure of a name yet, one idea is to just name him after the race, namly Nashrou, because the race isn't too intelligent. he wont be a very bright deity eather ;) NAME: - [DR:1] Demi Deity, colossal paragon Nashrou (25HD) , [AP:2] Symbol: Bloodied Scythe-like claw Home: Void Alignment: Chaotic Evil (maybe a bit to the chaotic) Domains: Destruction Portfolio: Destruction, Mindless slaughter Worshipers: Nashrou Favored Weapon: His scythe-like blades Avatar: It looks like a nightmarish amalgamation of bony spikes and talons. It’s lithe form is covered by thick, glistening chitin, and it glares at you balefully from a cluster of eyes in the center of its body. Creatures Created: Nashrou If you don't know how they look, they are fom MM IV, here's the picture: Nashrou (http://www.wizards.com/dnd/images/mm4_gallery/98679.jpg) Any commend?
Return of the Flumph 06-05-07, 04:51 PM	Everybody's okay with the flayers and aboleth causing some trouble, right?
d24478667 06-05-07, 04:55 PM	I am quite sorry to say that for a while I will have to resign from the project until my internet is fixed. I may be back in a week or so, but for now, Frostbite may explore the areas away from the world. I will do one action before he leaves; a little something Blight asked Frostbite to do.
Delfedd 06-05-07, 05:02 PM	Yup. I'm fine with that. Also, most of them would summon devils... :P
ewancummins 06-05-07, 11:38 PM	I've added a bunch of stuff about the azers. If EvilDm is okay with it, can we make that official?
ewancummins 06-06-07, 12:43 AM	Going to sleep.
Evil DM Mk3 06-06-07, 02:30 AM	And Lo there where more interesting Azer.
Delfedd 06-06-07, 06:03 AM	And lo, apparently there where more dead azer as well.
ewancummins 06-06-07, 09:01 AM	Monkey wrench! Makes it cooler, anyway.;) Silly abberations. It's dying time. Then, of course, it's suffering horribly for all eternity time.:)
Return of the Flumph 06-06-07, 01:47 PM	Does anyone feel like playing the aboleths and/or mind flayers, or should I?
Camu 06-06-07, 03:14 PM	I wouldn't mind playing the aboleths
Camu 06-06-07, 04:57 PM	damn destrieth, you sure know how to play them evil ;)
Destrieth 06-06-07, 04:59 PM	damn destrieth, you sure know how to play them evil ;) I blame the hip hop.
Destrieth 06-06-07, 09:13 PM	Yeah, I'm not going to even offer to let you unspend the points. You should be participating more. EDIT: And, I am a jerk.
riverrock 06-06-07, 11:15 PM	NAME: Latrodectus [DR:6] Necromancer 28 Symbol: None Home: Void Alignment: Chaotic Evil Domains: Necromancy Portfolio: Paranoia, Vermin Worshipers: Cultists Favored Weapon: Avatar: A spider This is it. Objections, comments, concerns?
Destrieth 06-06-07, 11:23 PM	NAME: Latrodectus [DR:6] Necromancer 28 Symbol: None Home: Void Alignment: Chaotic Evil Domains: Necromancy Portfolio: Paranoia, Vermin Worshipers: Cultists Favored Weapon: Avatar: A spider This is it. Objections, comments, concerns? Just not enough cow bell.
Delfedd 06-06-07, 11:28 PM	Also. Worshipers: Cultists? -.- But what about the cult of Morintu? Honestly, that's like saying "Worshipers: Bishops" You've gotta be more specific. Also, mention the beholders.
riverrock 06-06-07, 11:32 PM	I wrote it up in a hurry, sorry. I'll make changes to it before it's finalized.
Destrieth 06-07-07, 12:27 AM	Perfect excuse for me to do this. /Ganondorf on "Curse you SAGEs!" /Ganondorf off
Return of the Flumph 06-07-07, 12:28 AM	You're not going to wreak revenge on his descendents, are you? :cool:
Delfedd 06-07-07, 12:31 AM	That would be incredibly weird... sage having babies. I mean... can you imagine that?
Destrieth 06-07-07, 12:38 AM	You're not going to wreak revenge on his descendents, are you? :cool: That's a definite maybe.
riverrock 06-07-07, 02:22 AM	NAME: Latrodectus [DR:6] Necromancer 28 Symbol: None Home: The Chasm Alignment: Chaotic Evil Domains: Necromancy Portfolio: Paranoia, Vermin Worshipers: Nihlists, Anarchists, Necromancers, Witches, Beholders Favored Weapon: The Widow's Bite (Poison Dagger) Avatar: She presents herself differently to different people. Frequently, her manifestation is representative of an irrational fear or phobia. The only exception to this is with the beholders, to who she presents herself as the great mother. Revised description.
Evil DM Mk3 06-07-07, 03:36 AM	All looks hunkey do to me. Oh and for referance whilst I never stated it did not have a lazer the rim of the ship is a weapon, honed to a molcule thick, hence it taking chunks out of the Illithid vessel as it span.
Return of the Flumph 06-07-07, 03:43 AM	Well, that would have implied getting close to the behemoth, in which case it could have fought back.
Evil DM Mk3 06-07-07, 03:48 AM	I supose RPing with the injured druid was too much to hope for...
Camu 06-07-07, 03:57 AM	Hey riverrock, was the deity I posted ok or not?
Evil DM Mk3 06-07-07, 06:21 AM	That would be incredibly weird... sage having babies. I mean... can you imagine that? SAGE has applets!
ewancummins 06-07-07, 06:54 AM	The Behemoth doesn't just absorb lasers, lightning bolts, etc. and get stronger? He does breath out gouts of atomic hellfire, right? ;)
Delfedd 06-07-07, 11:34 AM	Hehe. What opperating system does SAGE run? Apple? Linux? If Alusia goes in and installs windows, I'm pretty sure that SAGE will become evil. Also, can you forsee a time that SAGE stops being an acronym to the people of earth and starts being "the Sage?"
Evil DM Mk3 06-07-07, 01:19 PM	This one has been stated somewhere (may have been PMs though) either a unique operating system (Meta-soft) or a hyper-evolved Wii.
Camu 06-07-07, 01:26 PM	are we still in the last turn, or did the new one started?
Evil DM Mk3 06-07-07, 01:31 PM	2 and a half hours yet.
Return of the Flumph 06-07-07, 02:00 PM	Actually, the dwarves and ezera already know him as The Sage. Its just the Order of the Mind and Eightfold Circle who don't. And wow, Blight is really annoying.
Evil DM Mk3 06-07-07, 02:02 PM	Why is Blight anoying? He thought he was getting Morintu 2.0 not the old 1.0.
Delfedd 06-07-07, 03:37 PM	Well, that was the original Morintu. He was no pansy, especially to gods openly who declare themselves evil. Anyway, I'm going to be working at a camp this summer. This means two things. One, I'm going to be on a bit less, and much less late at night. Probably two or three times a day. Secondly, it means that I'm going to have to discontinue the mapping. Does anyone have MS paint on their computer? I'm not leaving today or anything. I'm giving you a bit more than a week's warning. i'm leaving June 17th.
Return of the Flumph 06-07-07, 03:54 PM	Never mapped before, unfortunately; don't know the first thing about it.
Delfedd 06-07-07, 03:58 PM	Me neither. I basically put dots on the map where stuff should be.
Camu 06-07-07, 05:04 PM	If you just do it with the paint program, then it wouldn't be to difficult. I would love to give it a try Unless there are some fine artist among you
d24478667 06-07-07, 05:51 PM	Anypne think it is hilarious that without spending one AP, Alusia is able to take over what, three plains? And then she gained a lot of domains; but those she paid for. But does anyone think it is hilarious that she can pull that off, but I can't pull off having 11 AP? Cause basically, I think Alusia is being a bit... dominant now.
Delfedd 06-07-07, 05:57 PM	Yes, she is being dominant. But that is because she has no opposition. It's a power vacuum. I could return and be very pleased. But do you really want that? Do you want Morintu to return to a fortress, armed and armored against all attacks? Or I could create a bunch of (relatively) weak creatures which can become one god. And anyway, she's only taken over planes which where already linked to Enfermia. The reason you can't have 11 ap is that you get 11 ap every turn. Thats enough to make either 2.75 gods, raise your DvR 3.666 times, create 5.5 races, or teach 11 concepts. Each and every turn.
d24478667 06-07-07, 06:10 PM	I know I can't have 11 AP. Hell, right now I don't want to. What I am arguing about is the power vacuum in the first place Right now, she can do whatever she wants with no consequences. No one can enter Enfermia. No one can attack her, or kick her out, or diplomatically remove from power. She made herself an immovable dictator, and even the people more powerful then her can't do jack. (I was refering to Lexius. If Alusia ascended to DvR 16 and I missed it, then that part of the argument is taken back.) Still, if all the other gods teamed up, we still can't do jack. She is god modeing a god game, like I tried to, and accepted the consequences when people argued against it. EDIT: Just wanted to say I really love the seven who were twisted by the artifacts and Morintu.
Delfedd 06-07-07, 06:23 PM	Which is why I made the seven. The whole point of them is to give Alusia someone to watch out for. If she does something to tick the seven off enough, they'll unite against her. Then she has to be wary. Also, think about the consequences if the most powerful gods could just break into Hell (which I can't believe). For one, there would be no Lords of Hell. For another, Hell would not exist. Think about it. Why doesn't Pelor just come into Hell and destroy all the lords? Or even just one of the lords, since surely only one is truely needed. I would put foward that they can't. Asmodeus is the only truly necissary lord of the nine, and Pelor and all the other good gods would have killed the rest if hell was not sealed off to them. This is not just a one sided thing. Alusia cannot leave Enfermia. She can send wisps, but now the only creatures that are going to be entering and leaving Enfermia are mortals. This means that (in a way that makes a lot of sense) Devils can no longer just waltz out of the portals. They must be summoned.
d24478667 06-07-07, 06:28 PM	You have a good point. One I didn't realize, so it will take me a while to find a response, if I do. One thing, though, is she can't use wisps. She killed hers. When the winter was undone, I made it clear that it was broken. Messaging through other wisps? That's Frostbite's deal for actually making them in the first place.
Delfedd 06-07-07, 06:36 PM	Name: The Artifact Lords dvr 8 Level Varies class: Varies Symbol A number of stars on a black background Home: Enfermia Alignment: Lawful Evil Domains: Trickery and Corruption Portfolio: The Regalia of Morintu Worshipers: Wielders of the Regalia and their followers, thieves, politicians Favored weapon: Varies Avatar: The artifact lords where born from the flesh pits of Morintu, and have taken on a form drastically different from their original shape. Araam: The first wielder of an artifact. The creature that had once been a Triton now stood tall, much taller. Sprouting from his back was a set of eight of tentacles. His face was longer and more fishlike. This creature wields a phantom thunderblade. Fighter 13 Gohrod: The second wielder of the Thunderblade, this creature was once a dwarf. His son wielded the Thunderblade after he died, before Glyklvar stole it away again. He is short and squat as he was in life, but has taken on a more craggy appearance. His arms and legs are both composed of rock, and spines cover his back. This creature wields a phantom thunderblade. Expert 1/Fighter 5/Dwarven Defender 7 Arlian: This elvish shaman was the first to use the crown of stars. His body has grown greatly, and emphasises the crudeness of elves and their adeptness with magic. He is a skeleton, with an aura of blue magic where his skin should be. He is an adept mage. Sorcerer 12 Iladia This woman, once so beautiful in her youth, has two sides. One is the side that represents pure love, and the other is corrupt, false love. Her first form is exactly as she appeared in youth, beautiful and exotic. Her second form is a multisegmented monster, reminicent of a milipede. The head is the same, except with great, gnashing teeth. Each foot has a tiny hand. In both forms, the phantom crown of stars sits on her head. Druid 10/Bard 4 Simiel: In life, a master of devils, this wearer of the crown of stars has taken their form. He still wields the great magic he had once used in life. He will be the leader of many great armies of devils. He has the tail of a bone devil, the body of a pit fiend, The wings and head of a horned devil, and a pair of great cloven hooves. His face remains as it was in his youth. He carries the crown of stars on his brow. Conjurer 5/Warlock 5/Eldritch Theurge 5 Sargoz: Perhaps the most monsterous of the transformations, Sargoz has taken the form of a great, eight armed lizard. In each of his six hands he carries a different weapon. He has grown to a monsterous size, measuring up to the titans themselves. His physical power is immense, and while Simiel can send armies, Sargoz can defeat them. Barbarian 3/Dragon Shaman 7/Frenzied Berzerker 10 Michael: The seventh, the dark one, wielder of the staff of first tree. His form is like that of a great shadow. His eyes are a pair of stars which shine out of the darkness. His staff is a shining light.
ewancummins 06-07-07, 06:43 PM	I like those Artifact Lords. I'd add [or substitute] some Dragon Shaman levels[if one has access to PHB2] to Sargoz.
Delfedd 06-07-07, 06:45 PM	Oh yeah!
ewancummins 06-07-07, 06:46 PM	We are going into month 3 , year 2???
Delfedd 06-07-07, 06:47 PM	Yup. That means that the dragons are almost Mature! Coolio!
d24478667 06-07-07, 06:59 PM	That means Frostbite would be almost mature.. if he was still (completely) a dragon.
Destrieth 06-07-07, 08:25 PM	I'll address this myself. See, the thing is, if you were allowed to just throw me away THE CAMPAIGN WOULD HAVE NO MORE LAWFUL EVIL LORDS. I am the last, since Morintu is now neutral. I justify my actions based on A: creative license and B: those planes all were linked to Enfermia and C: no one complained when I originally started my takeover. I said if ANYONE objected they could raise it up, and if any of the gone gods whose stuff I've assimilated come back, I would glady return it to their players as if nothing happened. I have gained NO mechanical benefits, so stop whining.
ewancummins 06-07-07, 08:26 PM	Added some more stuff to the azers. Ever wonder what they eat? If they poo? It's all answered in there.:) I figure these azers are native outsiders, BTW.
ewancummins 06-07-07, 08:30 PM	Better hope that Kakavindus never comes back, though. He might be a wee bit unhappy about what happened with his plane.;)
Destrieth 06-07-07, 08:31 PM	He told me about a month ago he was busy all summer, so I think he's pretty much on hiatus from LoC. If Ivelius comes back, I have no qualms with returning his stuff. I figured me taking it was better than letting it just sit there unused is all.
ewancummins 06-07-07, 08:38 PM	Cool. I meant the god, not the actual player. Kakavindus is the LORD OF EVIL, after all, not the lord of milk and cookies with the neighbors.
Destrieth 06-07-07, 08:39 PM	There's a new Lord of Evil on the block now! /flex
d24478667 06-07-07, 09:15 PM	I justify my actions based on A: creative license. Fair enough. and B: those planes all were linked to Enfermia. I acknowledged that point when Delfedd brought it up and C: no one complained when I originally started my takeover. My internet is down. I am at the library. I have said this before. I couldn't have replied.. I said if ANYONE objected they could raise it up, and if any of the gone gods whose stuff I've assimilated come back, I would gladly return it to their players as if nothing happened. I have gained NO mechanical benefits, so stop whining.Who was whining? I am someone who lives to see inconsistencies, and then realize they aren't. So yes, I was pointing one out. I debated it carefully. I made few, if any opinionated arguments. I was not, by any sense, whining. Bold is mine.
Destrieth 06-07-07, 09:18 PM	You wouldn't have brought it up if you didn't take some issue with it; I gained no mechanical benefits from this, so the two incidents aren't at all related.
d24478667 06-07-07, 09:33 PM	You assume that humans are rational beings. Newsflash: We aren't. And no, I take no issue. But here is the main question. Seeing as me and Delfedd dropped it, do you wish to keep wasting space on this thread and making it hard for productive OOC work to go on, or do you wish to drop it? I side with the latter.
Destrieth 06-07-07, 09:34 PM	I'm for whatever you want to do. I was just defending myself against your arguments. /shrug
d24478667 06-07-07, 09:46 PM	My apologies; I wasn't trying to attack you. As I said, I was only pointing it out. Edit: Delfedd, Destrieth, doesn't that kind of ruin the Micheal game? Its like saying, "Oh, lets do this." then halfway through saying, "Oh I'm bored, lets stop." Whats the point of influencing Micheal if he becomes one of the seven? Then he is part of a god, and all work is wasted when we could have been doing it on a different populous.
Destrieth 06-07-07, 09:57 PM	Hey, it's all good. EDIT: Well, I mean, not very many people were into the whole idea anyhow. Ask Delfedd though, he's the progenitor of the idea.
Delfedd 06-07-07, 10:10 PM	Yup. The seventh have an entirely different set of goals from the rest of the gods. Their entire divine lives are devoted to creating more divine creatures, as well as making more power for Morintu's glorious return. The Flesh pits where "programmed" to begin the activation process when Morintu leaves Enfermia for more than a year.
d24478667 06-07-07, 10:13 PM	Yeah; I gues I am just annoyed that right after I pulled one rescue from the behemoth, another one happens. So, as I said, I am (understandably, in my opinion) annoyed.
Delfedd 06-07-07, 10:16 PM	Yup. Just like the seven where annoyed that their goals did not come to fruition. What did the seven do? they took action. I think we could all learn a lesson from the gods of evil today.
d24478667 06-07-07, 10:48 PM	My point was I can't take action because I don't have any MAP left.
Delfedd 06-07-07, 10:58 PM	Yeah... if you're annoyed you should take action. In D&D, dead isn't Dead.
ewancummins 06-07-07, 11:34 PM	Sleepy time is upon me. G'nite , all.
Evil DM Mk3 06-08-07, 03:30 AM	BTW those things I posted about, invesitgation will reveal their casue, if the investigation is logical. Also I remind you all that it is perfectly possible to hide things from ever Greater deities, particuarly if you DON'T MENTION THIER NAMES. Portfolio sence lets you know what has happened, but remember it does not tell you WHY.
Camu 06-08-07, 07:45 AM	are those seven each a god, or one god, represented by those 7 creatures?
Delfedd 06-08-07, 08:58 AM	Each of the seven is a demigod with dvr one for the purpose of combat. However, they cannot function as such. Together they have 3 AP, a divine rank of 8 (Now) and are very divided.
ewancummins 06-08-07, 09:22 AM	Must go to work now. I have left the adventuring party in the capable hands of EvilDM. Remember, Arteheyn wants them to suceed. They may get helpful hints from above, or minions of the goddess may come to their aid. Nothing major, until I get back from work and start posting, please. :) You can assume Britmara tags along with OOulzoth for now. She'll do more stuff very soon. Okay, gotta run, or I will be late.
Anuvrix 06-08-07, 09:25 AM	Haven't been able to post for a few days, but now i have a chance. LAST DAY OF SCHOOOOOOL!!!! will hopefully have more time soon.
Camu 06-08-07, 09:52 AM	are we actually using the mortal AP system in the game or not, because I see some people using it, while others don't
Evil DM Mk3 06-08-07, 10:32 AM	I will be honest. I have no idea how it works. Could not follow it one bit. In any case I still fail to see the poitn of the premice.
Evil DM Mk3 06-08-07, 10:36 AM	Also could somone set the other two ideas in motion and possilby give me a sene change for the Animal one (ie move them to a new place). Ta.
Delfedd 06-08-07, 10:43 AM	Well, Morintu needs to get rid of thunderblade. Perhaps it could be in the middle of the rainforest? Morintu isn't aware of all the effects of an artifact. Since Thunderblade is a source of war, perhaps it had been left there.
Evil DM Mk3 06-08-07, 10:45 AM	No I mena the next wierdness for animals hotspot.
Delfedd 06-08-07, 10:50 AM	Perhaps the thunderblade is at the top of a mountain and has gotten into a river, or even the groundwater. This could be a whole adventure path thing. Perhaps several adventures. Maybe the next hotspot is in the underrealms. Or maybe i'll mention that I shattered thunderblade? Make a bunch of adventures based on retrieving the parts.
Evil DM Mk3 06-08-07, 10:53 AM	Look Delfedd I KNOW why this is happening, I need somone to try and move it onwards, or should I just write a story? Cause I thought ti was RPing.
Delfedd 06-08-07, 11:00 AM	OK. You should've said that. You said you wanted some ideas. Could you PM me why so I can help you with ideas?
Evil DM Mk3 06-08-07, 11:01 AM	*sigh* I ment the other two hooks in my posts, the Dwarven cave ins and the missing caravans.
Evil DM Mk3 06-08-07, 11:05 AM	Also I want to make this clear, although happening at the smae time the cave ins are NOT Abolteh activty and have happened in a differant area of the Dwarven lands.
Anuvrix 06-08-07, 01:10 PM	that titans game actually sounds fun....
Evil DM Mk3 06-08-07, 01:17 PM	We are making it up as we go along, but most of the rules you would need are there... Will cook somthign up tonight for fun.
Delfedd 06-08-07, 02:20 PM	Yay the good guys! we totally are awesome! :D Actually, I pictured the merchant as an inneffective lawful evil. He's profiteering off of the plight of the Ezra, and he enjoys doing it.
Evil DM Mk3 06-08-07, 02:29 PM	Wonder how his life will change after seeing hardcore LE (Rakasha) ?
Evil DM Mk3 06-08-07, 02:31 PM	So, who wants to do the Dwarves?
Delfedd 06-08-07, 02:39 PM	Dunno. I do imagine a fable being enacted about this. "The Merchant and the Tiger." Of course, some of the details will be greatly confused, and the merchant will end up playing titan (or some other game of wits) in the jungle of the tiger. Maybe in a tiger trap. And then the merchant will use his wits to escape.
Evil DM Mk3 06-08-07, 02:47 PM	OK then, any OOC ideas as to the dwarves/druids next logical move?
Anuvrix 06-08-07, 03:12 PM	for the next seven days of battle, all beings have a +1 morale bonus to all saves, checks, and attacks. a good 40000 plus psions rejoicing at the coming of their savior. Does any one know how many turns i've been away? i have no honest clue. probable only one or 2 Lol. Mirak is "God Emperor" of psions:D
Delfedd 06-08-07, 03:14 PM	What? All beings? Why? Also, you know what all beings means, right? It means not just the humans, the dwarves, and so on. It also means the aboleths, the scum, the nightmares, and the devils.
Anuvrix 06-08-07, 03:21 PM	What? All beings? Also, you know what all beings means, right? It means not just the humans, the dwarves, and so on. It also means the aboleths, the scum, the nightmares, and the devils. yes i know, every creature is happy and lucky for the next 7 days. Every thing of course, but undead and cunstructs. it's just for Rp purposes, and mabe it could help the dwarves a little too. Slaves of an Aboleth i assume would have a morale penalty, being slaves an' all.
Delfedd 06-08-07, 03:33 PM	Nono... you said all. Seriously. :P
d24478667 06-08-07, 03:39 PM	Delfedd, could a god attack the Seven (the god, not the counsel in the angel) and redeem and remortal Micheal with the standard 3 AP, assuming he could reach them?
Delfedd 06-08-07, 03:42 PM	Theoretically. Of course, you would be fighting a DvR 8 god on their home plane. Almost always a bad idea. The redeeming would probably cost you some AP, because effectively you would be draining my Divine ranks.
Destrieth 06-08-07, 03:45 PM	I'm going to have to put the kibosh on it. No Gods can enter or leave Enfermia ever, so Michael must remain. 'Tis a sad fact. Enfermia is a prison and a fortress at the same time.
Anuvrix 06-08-07, 04:01 PM	Nono... you said all. Seriously. :P undead and cunstructs are immune to mind influencing affects... zombies can't really have a morale.... neither can statues... :teach:
Delfedd 06-08-07, 04:08 PM	Well if everyone's happy, wouldn't that make slaves more willing to go with their lot in life?
d24478667 06-08-07, 04:20 PM	Right. The whole thing was theoretical. Even if I could do it, I do not particulaly wish to. However, since that is the case, Delfedd really either shouldn't have paid MAP, as it was uncounterable, or paid more. Think about it; if no one can enter Enfermia, how could they rescue Micheal from that hell.
Delfedd 06-08-07, 04:41 PM	Huh? No... he's the Seventh. He must join his brothers. Sorry... slipped into the seventh talk there. I had to pay the MAP cost, because I was throwing a greater foe against Michael. And you're right. I do plan stuff very well. Thanks. :D
Camu 06-08-07, 04:57 PM	hey delfedd, are you playing the dwarfs that deal with the cave in, or the ones against the aboleth, since those 2 events are unrelated to each other
Evil DM Mk3 06-08-07, 05:12 PM	Hey Flumph don't winge, the mass colapses has been ignored too and that is way older:) . Anyway why would Mind Flayers work with the Aboleth? Delfedd is going en force against Aboleth, seeing as the alternative is trying to stop mysterious cave in by attackign them with earth elementals...
Return of the Flumph 06-08-07, 05:14 PM	Hey guys, as soon as the underdark and crazy animal situations are taken care of (if not before) I have an idea. You know how Ooulzoth has been terrorizing the far realms in search of more servitors? What if it turns out that those shattered worlds he's been prowling are the remains of another multiverse-similar to ours-that was destroyed in an unholy cataclysm some time ago. Most of the gods and races of that universe were destroyed, but a few of both are managing to survive among the ruins and trying to rebuild their home. Ooulzoth's predations have been interpreted as an act of war by the surviving gods of this shattered universe, and, few and tired though they are, they will launch a counterattack. Basically, another war against the far realms, but this time the morality of the situation is much less clearcut. (note: the mind flayers and aboleths are blood enemies; they are not cooperating at all)
Evil DM Mk3 06-08-07, 05:15 PM	That would be VERY VERY redundant. Trust me on this.
Return of the Flumph 06-08-07, 05:18 PM	I was thinking of doing it in a very different way than last time, though. Instead of each player making up a far realms beasty and dueling with himself, we make up a few, well defined gods and designate players for them. These players collobarate and launch an attack as they see fit. Also, rather than random destruction, these enemies are trying to neutralize a percieved threat to their home.
Evil DM Mk3 06-08-07, 05:20 PM	No, not what I ment. Look nevermind, you will see.
Return of the Flumph 06-08-07, 05:23 PM	I would really appreciate an explanation of why my idea is bad, actually.
Evil DM Mk3 06-08-07, 05:26 PM	Not bad, un-nessissary. I have been leaving clues and trails several miles wide as to why.
Camu 06-08-07, 05:35 PM	Actually RotF, your idea is actually similar to something I am working too. That other god I posted a while ago in the OOC will be discovered by my forces.
Return of the Flumph 06-08-07, 05:37 PM	Well then, if numerous other people have thought of similar things, why not combine it all?
Evil DM Mk3 06-08-07, 05:39 PM	It allready is. That is all I am saying.
Camu 06-08-07, 05:40 PM	Well my idea was that the shard worlds are in fact a previous experiment by the overdeity that created our world. Except this world eventually became destroyed by a great war between gods. There are still a few demideity's there, but that would be it. because Ooulzoth is a intermediate deity, he has almost no trouble to bring many of the surviving races into his fold. But basicly it's a bunch of fluff for me to use to create various aberrations (well i find them, but game mechanic wise) and to introduce my new deity
Return of the Flumph 06-08-07, 05:44 PM	Your idea, Camu, is virtually identical to mine. The only difference is that there might also be a couple of Lessers or Intermediates left who try to fight back. I already have a couple of awesome ones thought up...I really want to be able to use them.
Evil DM Mk3 06-09-07, 04:34 AM	Anyone want to 1: Guess who is Pwning the dwarves and 2: sugest teh next action the Druids should take?
Return of the Flumph 06-09-07, 05:01 AM	Guess who is Pwning the dwarves? The Jews.
Evil DM Mk3 06-09-07, 05:03 AM	WTF? Not funny! Seriously all the clues is there dagnabit! actualy I am going to have to ask that you apologise for that. Seriously not humerous.
Evil DM Mk3 06-09-07, 07:03 AM	Anyone have a real sujestion for either?
Camu 06-09-07, 07:43 AM	for the druids -find someone who knows what the 2 strange herbs could be, a sage maybe, or the avatar that assists them -they could try to use one of the herbs, to discover it's effects by themselfes -revive the man killed by the dire beasts so they can interogate him/her
Evil DM Mk3 06-09-07, 07:48 AM	for the druids -find someone who knows what the 2 strange herbs could be, a sage maybe, or the avatar that assists them Clever, which, both a sage and an avatar have been mentioned by name. -they could try to use one of the herbs, to discover it's effects by themselfesfaster but less clever, in any case the infusion is a blend of the herbs... -revive the man killed by the dire beasts so they can interogate him/herIf he wants to come back that is... So whitch is it?
Camu 06-09-07, 07:53 AM	are the druids good or neutral
Camu 06-09-07, 07:59 AM	nevermind. They think there is a good chance the dead man might know more. If he doesn't want to be revived, so the proces fails they will bring it to the avatar
Evil DM Mk3 06-09-07, 08:03 AM	OK I will post the outcome... Arent you glad you didn't say eating them!
Camu 06-09-07, 09:03 AM	hey delfedd, can you post a list with all the bonusses you can get to divine rank and maybe post it in your first post of the ooc, so everyone can easely access it.
Evil DM Mk3 06-09-07, 09:11 AM	Here are teh forces of evil. Main legeons/groups have numbers, attacked allies have letters. NOTE 5 and 6 have numbers but will act like attached allies for the most part. Tactical info provided to help the forces of good realise what is what and to simulate generals knowing asses from elbows. First legeon (1). Lead by the first of the Seven on a carried platform, at the far back. Well equiped Deamonad leageon, not overly large but with many specialists. Internal command structure. Useful heavy infanry with limited air capability. (Basic tatcial info: Smaller and less ordered than some but extreamly well equiped, has notable numbers of constructs, magic items ect.) Second legeon (2). Lead by an abitious titan barbarain called Timtiticus. 2 other titans also present, all three on a massive floating iron chariot pulled by three mature adult fiendish red dragons. The rest are a huge but disordered rabble of lesser deamonad and mortals (mostly goblins in this case) held in place by their fear of Timtiticus. (Basic tactical info: Arrow fodder lead by Pwnadge on steroids...) Third legeon (3) Lead by the third of the seven. Fairly large and well trained deamonad legeon. Internal command structure. (Basic tactical info: Elite infantry. Large and well ordered. Lead by a tactical genius so trickery that would work elsewhere does not here) Fourth legeon (4). Lead by the fouth of the seven. Largest legeon. Nothing more than a rabbid mob of mortals cultists and deamonad. Some Faulastu have been tortured butalised and starved to the point of being nothing buit rabbid eating machines, then fed large amounts of the silver algea from the Ocean of Despare. (Basic tactical info: Arrow fodder with some shock troops. Also attacked are Morintu's consil of death (unless mentioned elsewhere) (A) and Bligh't herald (B)) Fifth legeon (5). Lead by the Fifth of the seven. Small group. Mortal hunters. Gurrela fighters and covert ops. Attached in small groups (4-10) to other armies. (Basic tactical info: Beware the small elite group) Sixth legeon (6). Lead by the Sixth of the seven. Biological warfare group. Small. (Basic tactical info: Expect nastiness) Seventh legeon (7). Navy lead by the Seventh of the Seven. Eight legeons (8). Assotred rabble including detachments from all other legeons and the Ysgoths of the Namless Realm, offered elivated status if they do well. To be lead by an avatar of Blight himslef (C). (Basic tactical info: :eek: ) Destrieth's legions 2 (D,E) Legions of Werelions, attached to (3) and (8) 3 (F,G,H) Legions of skilled hobgoblin wizards, attached to (1) (3) and (7). 2 Legions of hobgoblin spirit shamans (I, J) 4 Legions of hobgoblin barbarians (k, L, M, N) I through N work together under their tribal leaders as group 10. 1 Legion of Alusidari eldritch knights (O) attached to (8) Legion 10- Emsis, leader of the Plainsrunners. Emsis will return after a long absense, having learned much of the world, and indeed traversing the entire surface of the planet. This contingent of plainsrunners consists of daggerfighters and calvalry. Legion 11- Icoscol leads the undead forces. His great horde includes ghouls, skeletons, zombies, and Vampires. Legion 12- Khythiss the green wyrm and Golthanok the black wyrm These two artifact wielders have devoted their lives to Morintu and bringing back his return. A score of every chromatic dragon flies under their wings. Legion 13- IV-001. IV-001 leads the armies of devils. They will come pouring out of the Enfermian portal. The rest are fairly obvious... See now why an abberation war is not needed ATM?
Delfedd 06-09-07, 09:12 AM	Yeah. I posted it a while back, but here it is again. You use your Divine rank, then add to it with the following bonuses to create your effective divine rank, or EDR +1 per artifact +1.5 for every synergy artifact +1 on your home plane +2 in your sanctum +1 if you are a war god/have a martial concept in your portfolio +1 if your herald is with you This last one is new. I thought I should add it though. Let me add something for the last legion. They won't come pouring out of the portal to Enfermia. They will be summoned by each spellcaster who can. However, the devils will be ordered to take one goldpiece for payment. NOTE this does not mean I am evil agaim. Well... the seven are certainly evil. But Morintu has no control over the devils when he's neutral. The leaders of the forces don't know the circumstances of Morintu's "disapearance."
Camu 06-09-07, 09:16 AM	herald or avatar, because you can make heralds for free, so that would be a bit unbalanced, while an avatar needed spended AP also the aboleth attack was alreaddy finished, and they had lost? so why repost about it?
Evil DM Mk3 06-09-07, 09:29 AM	Also as they are his forces Delfedd agreed to have a hand on conrtling them, basicly the evil side of the war is run by Camu, Delfedd, Destrieth and myself, whoever is online at the time posts. Also the forces of good are in real danger ATM and anything like "I make an earthquake to swallow them all" by good gods WILL result int hundreds of thousands of incoent deaths and possibly a huge shake up of the contitnets, there are a LOT of them, moving though your people. But fear not! You have many recorces, find allies, make new creaures, look for the deliberate weaknesses that we built into the armies. And good shall prevail. (although when you drowned the titans who might have helped you (world domiated by Dark gods? No ta.) Flumph, and I knew this was commming, I laughed so hard I got thrown out of the library)
Delfedd 06-09-07, 09:29 AM	An avatar cannot exist on the same plane as the god. The herald is nullified by the opposing herald. But if a herald is fighting alone, the god should gain a bonus. That bonus applies to the dragons as well.
Camu 06-09-07, 09:35 AM	ok, was just asking for clarification
Camu 06-09-07, 09:41 AM	I also noted that both the seven demodand lords as the seven artifact gods are both adressed to with the seven. this might be a bit confusing.
Evil DM Mk3 06-09-07, 09:42 AM	Ye I was about to bring that up, how about the Nameless Seven (who, confusing DO have names) and the Seven lords?
Camu 06-09-07, 09:43 AM	Sounds good, although I will most likely use the names of the generals when posting the actions of an army
Delfedd 06-09-07, 09:44 AM	OK. Don't worry. The Seven Lords will not be limited to seven for much longer. :D
Evil DM Mk3 06-09-07, 09:44 AM	Well the Nameless seven do ahve names, but theyare from the Namless Realm...
Camu 06-09-07, 09:45 AM	Call them the artifact lords or something, because if there numbers change constantly, it will even become more confusing.
Evil DM Mk3 06-09-07, 09:46 AM	Seriously though the Titans treatment, well lets just say you should never ill treat those who might save you behind. Also is Timtiticus' charito badass or is it BADASS!
ewancummins 06-09-07, 10:05 AM	The apostate titans hate the evil gods just as much as the good gods. They aren't going to help. I doubt the god hating psurlons will be happy with Alusia's armies, either. Three way war, anybody?
Evil DM Mk3 06-09-07, 10:12 AM	I would have imadgined (If most of them hadn't have drowned) that they would have made temporary peace with teh good gods to prevent an evil god takeover. However now, do they have the numbers to be a creadable third force?
ewancummins 06-09-07, 10:17 AM	Not numbers. May not need them, as they are TITANS. They will likely wait until both sides are weakened, then strike.
Camu 06-09-07, 02:44 PM	Blights creations can't dream any more, how fortunate that our troops mostly consist of beast that aren't his creations Demodand => Ooulzoth Devils => Morintu Artifact guys => Morintu
riverrock 06-09-07, 02:45 PM	Any member of your little army that does any dreaming, such as the plainsrunners or the hobgoblins or the titans, will be effected. I expect that there will be riots.
Delfedd 06-09-07, 02:50 PM	Yeah. I'll work on that post right now.
Evil DM Mk3 06-09-07, 03:01 PM	What, the armies are going to get even more irrational and violent??!! GREAT! That is like giving a bank robber armed with a pistol a pair of Uzis! Blight cannot by found by dreams, but ATM i think the forces of good might want to consider Dunkurking, you are outnumbered by quite a lot...
riverrock 06-09-07, 03:06 PM	That is not what would happen. They are going to be demoralized, which will effect them in battle. Like a robber realizing the police are going to get him, no matter what.
Evil DM Mk3 06-09-07, 03:13 PM	Still, the real meat of the army is Deamonad. Also i am not 100% sure Titans and Rakasha sleep. Derro are nut jobs anyway, there is a chance they will respond by planting lots of flowers and singing "ringa-ringa-rosies" in responce...
riverrock 06-09-07, 03:15 PM	True. But anyone who dreams will be effected.
Delfedd 06-09-07, 03:42 PM	Oooh Evil DM... you're so... evil!
Evil DM Mk3 06-09-07, 03:44 PM	That is how evil evil should be. Now how can anyone who beats him be anything but a hero?
Return of the Flumph 06-09-07, 04:09 PM	Are the giants still in this fight?
Delfedd 06-09-07, 04:33 PM	They're not close enough.
Evil DM Mk3 06-09-07, 04:40 PM	They retreated, RPing may open doors.
riverrock 06-09-07, 04:40 PM	My question is, do we even have a chance? The people fighting this war have thrown a lot at it-and the basic response has been "it doesn't matter, it doesn't effect the outcome." Should we even bother spending the resources?
Evil DM Mk3 06-09-07, 04:43 PM	OK look at it like this. Good is turning up bit by bit. They still ahve large forces that are not commited in any way and allies that are nor even aware that the battle is on. Evil has mobilised. 95% of the univeres evil is there, going at it pieacemeal will not do it. Besides good has to almost lose and then win, that is how you can tell they are the good guys...
Delfedd 06-09-07, 04:44 PM	Well, it will take a lot more than one event. You will have to slowly push it back. Invest some AP into fighting these guys. Make a race. Arteheyn and myself are planning on making one. Right now it seems like you're just using what you have. Also, if Glyklvar had not sank several ships with her krackens, the plainsrunners would not just be sitting there being targets. So yes, what you are doing is having some effect.
riverrock 06-09-07, 04:44 PM	I would think we'd of at least had an effect, if only slowing them down, rather than "you are getting trounced wherever you are." Where is you ap investment, exactly?
Evil DM Mk3 06-09-07, 04:50 PM	OK here are some ideas. Contact teh neutral parties, comb the races thread and find people who are not on the side of good OR evil yet. Fall back and draw a line. Look at evil's army structure, there are very real weaknesses there. Get the giant's back in the game, one of them is the single most powerful mortal in existance after all. Prehaps if you just hold, let there be an evil empire for a while, you can catch them offguard next turn.
riverrock 06-09-07, 05:00 PM	I'm already engaging in both conventional and non-conventional warfare.
Delfedd 06-09-07, 05:05 PM	Evil DM is right. We did introduce some very real faults into almost all of the armies. We spent our AP when we made the races and whatnot. The giants will be very helpful. I basically agree with whatever Evil DM says here. :D
riverrock 06-09-07, 05:07 PM	Faults have already been exploited. They just might not have been any faults that you were aware of that existed in your armies.
Delfedd 06-09-07, 05:09 PM	Yes. And now the Plainsrunners are essentially a moot point. The battle is basically between the undead, the fey, and the outsiders.
Evil DM Mk3 06-09-07, 05:11 PM	Demoralization, whilst cunning, is of limited use when the troops fear their leaders more than death. Please, re-read what I have posted, hints are there. Think about them in terms of tactics and weaknesses. Oh and please add Goblins+Derro+Hags+Rakasha+Dopelgnagers to Delfedd's list. By the way i know Gods have levels in it but has anyone made mortal paladins, cause Paladinhood as a concept (with a few thousand people getting about 15 levels in paladin all at once as a side effect) is EXACTLY the sort of divine intervention that would work.
riverrock 06-09-07, 05:13 PM	Please, re-read what I said. They also have dreams of their leaders betraying them, and they are never able to get a good night's sleep. Any dreaming race is a moot point now. Furthermore, the fey are engaging in a guerilla war. Each army is having to deal with what is basically the land itself fighting it. And don't forget the harpies. Never forget the harpies.
Evil DM Mk3 06-09-07, 05:14 PM	The mortals are not affraid of their leaders betraying them, they are afraid of their leaders EATING them and that WILL happen if they don't fight. They aren't moot, but they are much weaker. And are still in huge hordes. The fey, YES the fey are good, but that ain't going to win a war on its own.
Delfedd 06-09-07, 05:17 PM	Some of them. Some of them will escape. I'm going to agree with riverrock on this. If it was a Nightmare vv http://www.d20srd.org/srd/spells/nightmare.htm Most of the creatures will have died from the evil.
Evil DM Mk3 06-09-07, 05:19 PM	Oh yes some will escape. Basicly I am saying this is good stuff, but edge stuff only, not the whole apple sauce. Mind you the Derro are probably having the time of their lives...
Janusunaj 06-09-07, 05:19 PM	I have to take posting slowly from now on.
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riverrock 06-09-07, 06:24 PM	I'm just going to go ahead and say it. If you all want us to participate in this battle, you have to let us fight it the way we want to fight it, rather than telling us to pour over the legion descriptions looking for some obscure tactical weakness. I have no tactical knowledge, I don't play RTS games, I'm not a military historian. I have no idea what "weakness" I am supposed to be looking for. It really wouldn't make sense for Kyrinian to fight that way anyway. He is the Lord of Dreams, and that's an area I can actually work in. Psychological warfare can have a tremendous effect on the outcome of battles. I'm still participating in the war; I'm just doing it in a nonlinear way. And in a game of gods, that should be both expected and accepted.
Evil DM Mk3 06-09-07, 06:28 PM	Hey why are you comapining? I gave you all of them exept the Hags! I have also put up posts that have no purpose other than to reveal weaknesses, I have even refered to them directly in my responces in this thread. Also you CAN fight this however you want, but you are not going to win if you go at it peicemeal or try and JUST deal with the mortals.
riverrock 06-09-07, 06:30 PM	Like I said, I have no idea what I am supposed to be looking for. I have no background in conventional military tactics and what not. We should be able to put a dent in your armies if what we do makes sense, not just if it is what you want us to do, which is what the "secret weakness" shtick is.
Evil DM Mk3 06-09-07, 06:37 PM	OK OK Tell you what. You will be told. If you havent worked it out by tommorow. But look at the exact reason why the dreams didn't work. Trust me everyone we can keep this war long and interesting and fun and mythic even if I tell you. But there are other things, good solid things, that you could do but wont. Like the 3 groups of allies you could have but are ignoring.
riverrock 06-09-07, 06:40 PM	But they have worked, to a certain extent. The dreaming races are demoralized and rebellious. Not enough to end the war, of course, but enough to help our side battle yours.
Evil DM Mk3 06-09-07, 06:43 PM	Rebelious yes. Rebelling? NO. WHY?
riverrock 06-09-07, 06:44 PM	Because they love Father Blight soooo much.
Evil DM Mk3 06-09-07, 06:52 PM	No that is the Hags only. Why are the rest of them even there? I mean do the Goblins, HELLS do the Deamonad WANT to be there?
riverrock 06-09-07, 06:56 PM	They're afraid of him?
Evil DM Mk3 06-09-07, 07:00 PM	Yes, well not just him but how on earth can 10 (last I checked Namless seven+Avatar+Lich+Dragon) keep contol of what is in all honesly likely to be more than a million souls on the march? What would happen if, oh, I don't know, 10 became 9? What if the one to go was the one who was personaly in charge of killing you if you ran? GO easy, none of these guys are push overs and I had hoped to keep this war going till next month, amke it a real huge part of history like all primeval wars between good and evil should be but remember they arrived through a portal they where NOT summoned
riverrock 06-09-07, 07:04 PM	... That actually makes sense, and works with the non-conventional tactics I'm trying to pull. I hold off on any assasination attempts until later, though, since you want to drag this out a bit.
Camu 06-09-07, 07:05 PM	yes, this should be a battle that no one will ever forget, so it should be something that would last a while. To have an event that lasts longer then one or two days.
Evil DM Mk3 06-09-07, 07:07 PM	Right cool. for now go find friends. Get the giants out of their defncive stance, contact the races who no longer have a god, the Tribe, the Society, Hells the orcs aren't on our side yet are they? (Are they:confused: ) Raise the armies, sound teh horns, draw a line in the sand and deffend it to teh death!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! oh and Paladins would be nice... In short Riverrock that was a shrewd plan, it jsut needed an extra step.
Anuvrix 06-09-07, 11:49 PM	To speak of mind affects, i have a city of people who are pretty much neutral. Mirak is looking for some way to protect his people, and could probably be easily gulled onto a side. Army of psionic PALADINS!!!!!
Destrieth 06-10-07, 01:11 AM	To speak of mind affects, i have a city of people who are pretty much neutral. Mirak is looking for some way to protect his people, and could probably be easily gulled onto a side. Army of psionic PALADINS!!!!! "Don't be too proud of this technological terror you've constructed. The ability to destroy a planet is insignificant next to the power of the Force." I think that quote from Darth Vader conveys my point perfectly.
Anuvrix 06-10-07, 01:53 AM	I think that Elvunil is now just about the most powerful god in the pantheon... Kinda fun to see other's reactions to this...
Destrieth 06-10-07, 01:54 AM	Nope, Amon is at the same level.
Anuvrix 06-10-07, 02:02 AM	Night-Night, im sleeping already...
Delfedd 06-10-07, 08:14 AM	At the last moment, something he did not expect happened, the beast overpowered him, he had not the reserve power to reseal it. The Oracle's eyes widened. The beast broke free, and there was nothing he could do to stop it... He could deter it though. He uses his divine energy to force the creature into the plane of the dead god, Avnuk. Where no creatures still reside. (the Drow would have all left by now, their god dead and all...) [1-1=0 spent last ap failing to stop the beast] You can't. Because avnuk's plane is sealed off. just like the rest of enfermia. Also, with my artifacts I'm more powerful even than Amon.
Evil DM Mk3 06-10-07, 08:30 AM	I think the divine month - mortal time link has dilated here... I think this divine month might take little more than a few years...
Evil DM Mk3 06-10-07, 08:42 AM	So what do you think about the Legionaries?
Delfedd 06-10-07, 08:43 AM	For those just joining... here is a list of things you can't use without doing something special. Of course, there could be a hero dwarf or elf, one who survived the attacks. Dwarves: Burned to a crisp by dragons Elves: See dwarves Metalic dragons: Eaten alive by dragons Lizardfolk: Shackled and chained Swamp people: See Lizardfolk Air elementals: Locked in enfermia Inevitables: Locked in enfermia Devils: Locked in enfermia The legionaries are pretty cool. Although I might make them undead. *Shrug* maybe it's just me.
Evil DM Mk3 06-10-07, 08:46 AM	Not all of teh elves and dwarves would be dead, some would be enslaved and there are bound to be refugees to other places too. Also I doubt all the metalic dragons are dead... And the Legionnaires are not undead, they are contructs powered by mental energy not souls.
Delfedd 06-10-07, 08:50 AM	Yeah, but i'm saying don't use forces of elves or wyrm dragons
Evil DM Mk3 06-10-07, 08:54 AM	Oh yes, forces, no, individuals yes. Makes it look like we have a good reason for elves and dwarves to be rare... and hate dragons... I move that dwarves lose their conter giant AC bonus and gain an anti-dragon one.
Delfedd 06-10-07, 09:08 AM	Sure. For now, at least.
Evil DM Mk3 06-10-07, 02:51 PM	And Lo in the time of greatest need for all the races, the elves legged it.
Camu 06-10-07, 03:00 PM	thank Ooulzoth that except the farastu (weakest demodand) all the others have fire immunity the demodand knew what they where doing
Delfedd 06-10-07, 03:01 PM	And Lo in the time of greatest need for all the races, the elves legged it. As usual.
Evil DM Mk3 06-10-07, 03:01 PM	The morals are not fire immune however. That was a VERY smart move riverrock.
riverrock 06-10-07, 03:36 PM	I thought demodands only had fire resistance, not immunity. And I doubt the demodands based off demons would have fire immunity, as demons normally have electricity immunity. But thank you anyway, evil dm.
Evil DM Mk3 06-10-07, 04:19 PM	Before anyone compains i am cicumventing riverrock they now have to maintain a nation of slaves and make sure they have herbs, all year, every year. Not exactly ideal.
riverrock 06-10-07, 04:20 PM	And let's not forget about... SIDE EFFECTS!!! Mwuh ha ha.
Evil DM Mk3 06-10-07, 04:22 PM	Oh yes, addiction and the fact that you no longer dream are the major two. Plus a weakening of the hair, making it snap and fall out more easily, less sensitive taste and the occasional dizzy spell. Also not being able to hear at all while you sleep. Overdoeses are massively dangerous resulting in comas. There are not massively dangerous long term side effects, the Hags know this becasue before they gave it out the got the doeasge etc by force feeding it to human slaves. It tases like buttery chocolate, so overdoeses may occur on that alone.
Destrieth 06-10-07, 05:40 PM	Here you go good. Step on 'em.
Evil DM Mk3 06-10-07, 05:43 PM	No offense but even without your forces we still pack a punch and good has taken an almighty beating. And yes that was Blight's voice on the wind. Take what steps you will...
Destrieth 06-10-07, 05:44 PM	Shrug. I didn't care when you made the proposition, don't care now.
Evil DM Mk3 06-10-07, 05:57 PM	High divine rank lets you block that kind of thing? Deamonad are made from souls harvested by blight, they are HIS. Besides this is hardly epoch changing war type stuff if you can just say "I dont wanna." I mean if that is the case this is just going to turn into a DvR race...
Return of the Flumph 06-10-07, 06:07 PM	You said that your AVATAR did the rebuking. Gly should be able to interfere with the avatar of a lesser god without too much effort. If you want to quash the rebellion, you'll have to do it in person. And trust me, we're going to use any method we possibly can to pinpoint your location if you do.
Evil DM Mk3 06-10-07, 06:09 PM	You are aware that an avatar is part of a god... That is like saying I am not stopping your fist, just the middle finger.
Destrieth 06-10-07, 06:16 PM	You are aware that an avatar is part of a god... That is like saying I am not stopping your fist, just the middle finger. Yes but an Avatar is flesh and blood.
Evil DM Mk3 06-10-07, 06:17 PM	No an avatar is another god.
Delfedd 06-10-07, 06:33 PM	Technically blight is right. It is a god with HALF of the divine rank of the projenator. Therefore, technically Glyklvar doesn't have to spend AP.
Return of the Flumph 06-10-07, 06:35 PM	Technically blight is right. It is a god with HALF of the divine rank of the projenator. Therefore, technically Glyklvar doesn't have to spend AP. Hang on, I do, or don't?
Delfedd 06-10-07, 06:37 PM	You don't have to spend AP on attacking it. But... you have to make an avatar yourself. or just get arteheyn's in on the action. Also, My mortals aren't my pack animals. I'm the only person who's a good person. Hah.
Evil DM Mk3 06-10-07, 06:37 PM	I would have thought interfearing with the basic inherant makup of a species (that is to say they are made from souls that went to him and are linked to him) would require AP.
Evil DM Mk3 06-10-07, 06:41 PM	Oh and BTW, yes he was shouting loud enough to find, heavens forbid I try and give the mortals more than a walk on role in events...
Return of the Flumph 06-10-07, 06:42 PM	I didn't really ATTACK the avatar. Just sort of blocked it from hurting the demodands. So is my action legit or no? If Delfedd says no, I'll take it back. I would have thought interfearing with the basic inherant makup of a species (that is to say they are made from souls that went to him and are linked to him) would require AP. Technically, it was Ooulzoth who made them; you're just using them. Oh don't worry. Tonight that's going to change anyway.
Delfedd 06-10-07, 06:43 PM	It would. But think about it. It's a small group. Arteheyn is one alignment step away from them. She is offering it to a small group of creatures. There is good mythological background for creatures made of souls being changed. Good demons, bad angels and such.
riverrock 06-10-07, 06:44 PM	Oh and BTW, yes he was shouting loud enough to find, heavens forbid I try and give the mortals more than a walk on role in events... But we've been giving them more than a walk on role. Or did you miss the ettercaps and the werewolves and the fey and so on and so forth?
Evil DM Mk3 06-10-07, 06:46 PM	look you know where Blight is (in his eye, where else?) go and talk to him or kill him, whatever, he has stuff to say but doubtless you will slaughter him anyway...:( Why is it when I play a non-involved god, he dies and when he gets involved, he dies? Oh and if stuff is going to happen, can it happen quickly? I hate to keep mentioning the time differance.
Destrieth 06-10-07, 06:48 PM	Because we love depriving you of any and all joy. /heartless laughter
Evil DM Mk3 06-10-07, 06:49 PM	Is that sarcasm or not. I can't tell in this situation.
Destrieth 06-10-07, 06:52 PM	Eh, it's sarcasm. I'm just a jerk.
Return of the Flumph 06-10-07, 06:54 PM	The demodands are yours again. Sorry for the attempted godmodding. Don't worry about Blight; if you don't want him to die, we can't kill him. Those are the rules. Not to mention that I already gave Blight a way to save himself if he chooses to.
Evil DM Mk3 06-10-07, 06:56 PM	(And I have my own backup plan) What was that again?
Return of the Flumph 06-10-07, 06:59 PM	You'll be reminded IC.
Destrieth 06-10-07, 07:07 PM	Flumph - The Behemoth is like a missile. Point it where you want destroyed, and it will go.
Evil DM Mk3 06-10-07, 07:16 PM	Just for referance, cause there are bound to be ways of findng out, Blight is telling gospel truth, and has about 12 mortal hours to live...
riverrock 06-10-07, 07:17 PM	No. No. No. No. You aren't the dm, you don't get to define what good or evil is. To get the mortal races to act, we have to spend AP, which is part of the rules of the game. GET OVER IT.
Evil DM Mk3 06-10-07, 07:20 PM	I do not get to decide how mortal races act, no. I don't get to deffine good and evil. And I haven't. I have decided how BLight THINKS they are going to act. What BLIGHT thinks good and evil are. Gospel truth as in "what he says is what he belives". And in any case he IS correct. The races WHERE comming together to fight off evil, they WHERE going to beat him and win, and have THAT as a majour point in their history. Are you honestly telling me you are confusing BLIGHT'S words with my PLAYER belefes?
riverrock 06-10-07, 07:24 PM	Just for referance, cause there are bound to be ways of findng out, Blight is telling gospel truth, and has about 12 mortal hours to live... Emphasis mine. The gospel truth implies that what he is saying is absolutely true, not truly his opinion.
Delfedd 06-10-07, 07:24 PM	What Blight is saying is that we're essentially creating races to combat the insurection. It's their purpose. Ettercaps, salamanders. The other part is that the mortals are subjugated right now. They need to learn to rise up. I'm going to firmly stand with Blight on this.
Evil DM Mk3 06-10-07, 07:27 PM	It is gospel truth that Blight started this war to give mortals the tools they would need to fight other evils. That is what I ment. the word gospel thrown in to indcate he is neither lieing or distorting words. I recall Kur-ah caused a simmilar OOC argument by tring to create blance IC. our 4th wall needs re-plastering.
riverrock 06-10-07, 07:27 PM	That is easily the most ridiculous thing I have ever heard. Blight directs an army to take over the earth, and we're expected to stand back and let him do it? The mortal races would not stand a chance. The only thing we could do was to allow him to conquer the world, which is obviously what you to wanted to happen. But we are not under an obligation to play the game that way. You said everything he said was gospel truth, which would mean that we enslaved the mortal races, blah blah blah. Our 4th wall is fine, thank you very much.
Delfedd 06-10-07, 07:29 PM	Yes. He did want his army to take over the world for a time. But, in all his correspondances with those involved, he made it perfectly clear that he did not want to win. Morintu didn't take any direct action for or against either side.
riverrock 06-10-07, 07:35 PM	The gods of good wouldn't know that. And how could the mortal races win on their own against an army of demodands and devils???? It was impossible without deific assistance.
Return of the Flumph 06-10-07, 07:36 PM	I just spoke my mind IC. While I generally try to distance myself from my characters, I am with Gly 100% on this one. This is an interesting philisophical debate, actually. Let's just make sure we don't get our feelings involved in it.
Evil DM Mk3 06-10-07, 07:37 PM	Blight IC and I OOC never wanted to win. What is the point of that? That is easily the most ridiculous thing I have ever heard.Peanut butter trouser press. Blight directs an army to take over the earth, and we're expected to stand back and let him do it?No, you are suposed to help the mortals, lead them, get them together then say "Look at you, look at what you did. You are amazing!" not go and punch Blight to death and say "ok, guys, you suck, we dealt with it, praise me." OR mess about in my armies so you can say "Ok so we puned evil, you suck, go home." The mortal races would not stand a chance.How on earth do you know I can count at least three mortal races taht never got near the battle, as well as a large chunk of extra forces that never got a mention, a mercinary race that just sat there... The only thing we could do was to allow him to conquer the world, which is obviously what you to wanted to happen.wrong and wrong, sorry. But we are not under an obligation to play the game that way.True, and I am under no obligation to play an INSANE CHAOTIC EVIL GOD. In a way that ahs to make 1005 sence. You said everything he said was gospel truth, which would mean that we enslaved the mortal races, blah blah blah.He was 1 giving his opinion (sheash one word lead to all this?) and 2 kinda right in as much as those "relegion is the opeate of the masses" viewpoint people are. Our 4th wall is fine, thank you very much.matter of opionion
Evil DM Mk3 06-10-07, 07:45 PM	got to go too late at night
Return of the Flumph 06-10-07, 07:50 PM	Lets stop tearing Evil DM down. As he said himself, Blight is chaotic evil and insane. While perhaps it might have been better in the longrun to win the war his way, the way we won it is still fine. Our characters are just lucky Blight decided it wasn't worth it and revealed himself to them. Mortals handle mortal threats. Gods handle divine threats.
Delfedd 06-10-07, 07:58 PM	Oooh... that's very true. Since Blight was involved divinely by sending an avatar, he got involved directly. Therefore the other guys where allowed to get in on the action. haha... blight's wrong. got it.
ewancummins 06-10-07, 08:36 PM	I edited my last post for Aretheyn's avatar, to be fair to EvilDM. I'll wait to see what he has Blight do. If Blight dies, or agrees to relese the rebellious demodands, then I'll repost.
Return of the Flumph 06-10-07, 08:47 PM	If Blight does NOT release the demodands, he WILL die.
Delfedd 06-10-07, 09:03 PM	Without us spending AP. Because he asked for it. Also, Blight can also get free by making me an artifact. Then I won't kill him. or maybe if he wants me to kill him, I'll make him make an artifact. Whatever. I kinda just want an artifact.
ewancummins 06-10-07, 09:06 PM	Getting the impression you want an artifact.....:D
Delfedd 06-10-07, 09:13 PM	Well, I had to feed that tarrasque something.
Destrieth 06-10-07, 09:36 PM	I don't know that I agree with the evil being unnecessary line of thought. Everyone needs to keep in mind our goal here is to create a good setting. Evil=drama=fun. That's my point of view, and that's why I think it's pretty necessary. Lawful evil, anyway. Chaotic evil can go. But we need megalomaniacs and schemers!
Return of the Flumph 06-10-07, 10:01 PM	Well, yes, from game design perspective evil is very neccesary. No one is disputing that.
Destrieth 06-10-07, 10:02 PM	Just making sure. (I'm preserving my interests after all)
Delfedd 06-10-07, 10:15 PM	OK. Here is my proposition. In D&D, there is usually an inadequate explanation as to why everyone speaks the same language, has similar technology levels, have similar myths and whatnot. So I am proposing a solution. A great empire. NOTE that I do not expect this empire to last forever. I Hope it doesn't in fact. When the empire splinters (I have something worked out with someone) we will get both diverse and similar cultures. I'm planing on leaving a remnant of the empire as a sort of undead state. Also, please don't intervene here, as there is no divine intervention. Morintu strongly believes what he said about stopping intervention. He will take direct action against people. Also, don't you find it fun seeing the world develop? It's facinating.
Delfedd 06-10-07, 11:15 PM	Also, Bloodblaze? Read more than the first and last post on each page. It doesn't give you that good of an Idea about what happened.
Illeveun Bloodblaze 06-10-07, 11:15 PM	By empire are you talking a Rome type empire, or a little bit like Istar in Dragonlance? What I mean by that is the way that it falls apart.
Delfedd 06-10-07, 11:16 PM	Dunno. We'll have to see. (It's a seeecret) Also, see my last post
ewancummins 06-11-07, 12:15 AM	Shout out to my actaeons! Heck yeah! Lots o' goblins are going to get polymorphed to replace some of the animals that Blight's forces killed. Maybe fear of things like actaeons, ettercaps, giant lynxes, etc will scare the gobbos out of the woods, and cause them to prefer open land. That would mesh with how why they are described as plains/open country dwellers in the MM. The woods are bad. Bad things live in there, nasty things that don't like goblins.
ewancummins 06-11-07, 12:51 AM	It might seem like my creations are kicking Blight's lads while they are down- and they are! That's the smart thing to do. Mess with the woods, and you get the stick, baby!;) :P :)
Camu 06-11-07, 07:03 AM	Euhm about the demodands they are actually Ooulzoths creation and servants, he just shares them with Bligth So he can't just hand them over or something You can't give up what you borrow, you can only return it
Return of the Flumph 06-11-07, 12:25 PM	Understood. Sorry. The way he kept saying "they are HIS" on the ooc board gave me a wrong impression; I thought the two of you shared control of them at this point.
Evil DM Mk3 06-11-07, 12:26 PM	I made a mention of that when the offer was made, albeit in a roundabout way. Oh and whenever a god on the side of good wants to post the battle, feel free. Just don't kill ALL of the seven (and if you DON'T kill 3 and 4 something has gone wrong, they don't run). I think we can scratch the Avatar, not going to fight. Camu, do or don't do that thing, it is up to you, both kinda make sense.
jamvid 06-11-07, 03:37 PM	I hate to say it, but there is no way in Enfermia I can stay in this beautiful project any longer. It’s been about 4 weeks since I've been energized enough to post, and a week since I've even bee able to read these threads, and I'm already 30-something pages behind (summing up all of the LoC threads). I'd love to try and keep reading, and I'd love to help make this into a campaign setting, if we ever do, but to continue posting is currently impossible for me to do. I've read this from the beginning, and I love the rich mythology and world every-one has made, so I'm stepping out. If everybody is okay with it, and if someone wants to, I'd like to let another poster take over playing Pholtone, but if not, I can take him out of play. If someone wants to play Pholtone, and there are no objections, PM. Happy world building, population guiding, god making, god killing, god eating, earth molding, power gathering, role-playing, reading, and posting!
Destrieth 06-11-07, 03:39 PM	Hey, good luck man. We were glad to have you!
ewancummins 06-11-07, 03:40 PM	Jamvid, it was nice having you on the project/threads. I do think it would be great if we could get a new player to play Pholtone. If not, maybe he goes to sleep for a couple of thousand years.
Evil DM Mk3 06-11-07, 03:43 PM	Now where have we heard that before.:rolleyes: (Sleeping that is ) Sorry to lose you.
Camu 06-11-07, 05:50 PM	well I'm going to stop trying to convince the others, as they clearly made there minds of what is just and what isn't, as Ooulzoth sees it
Anuvrix 06-12-07, 01:54 AM	Nice havin ya. have fun.:( :weep:
Camu 06-12-07, 04:07 AM	oh so now every 'good' thing Ooulzoth did, or tried with helping is forgotten because he created the demodand who where the main force in the war Why, let us all lock and punish every swordsmith in town, because they make evil devices othe people might use to take lives. Many others made evil creations, but where not judged for it. it looks like 'justice' in this world is the kind: If the bad guy is strong we will look the other way (morintu and alusia) but if they are easy to subdue, lets bring them to 'justice' Ooulzoths opinion, not mine as a player, I love the drama that is building up here
Destrieth 06-12-07, 04:49 AM	shrug, not alusia's fault you don't know how to do evil up proper. gotta be sneaky and schemey.
Evil DM Mk3 06-12-07, 04:52 AM	You CAN be sneaky, or you can be as open and honest as Good. There is more than one flavour of evil.
Return of the Flumph 06-12-07, 04:56 AM	No one so far has really gotten on Ooulzoth for creating the demodand. They are, however, angry at him when he said, under no duress, that he had been about to help Blight with the war. That was a horrendously bad PR move on his part.
Evil DM Mk3 06-12-07, 04:57 AM	So are they going to help Blight or are they going to let him kill himslef, which is bad seeing as he was made when a body was abosrbed into a mass of black goo and that goo, being raw divine power, is unlikely to die when the body does.
Camu 06-12-07, 04:58 AM	since when is confession bad, as in he hasn't done it yet.
Delfedd 06-12-07, 08:33 AM	Well, look at it this way. What If I'd admitted that I was about to become directly involved with the war? People would jump all over me. They'd say, "Morintu, you're a bad guy." You would too. That is why I did not do that. That is why Morintu is only involved peripherally. As for locking up all the swordsmiths... that sounds like a pretty good idea. Lets do it.
Delfedd 06-12-07, 08:42 AM	By the way, http://img254.imageshack.us/img254/8131/lordsofcreationyr0.th.jpg (http://img254.imageshack.us/my.php?image=lordsofcreationyr0.jpg)
Camu 06-12-07, 09:00 AM	That big large line isn't a wall (like chinese wall ;) )
Delfedd 06-12-07, 10:02 AM	Nope. just emphasis.
Evil DM Mk3 06-12-07, 04:35 PM	Check out the culture thread, opions on half-titan and titan-spawn templates?
Camu 06-12-07, 05:06 PM	so you get those titan blooded animals from crossing normal animals with half titan slaves.....?
Evil DM Mk3 06-12-07, 05:10 PM	Yes. The magic of the Half-titan before you ask. Imadgine the face of a slave told "I want more Hallen-hounds".
Camu 06-12-07, 05:16 PM	euw, nasty
Evil DM Mk3 06-12-07, 05:16 PM	Are the templates blanced?
Camu 06-12-07, 05:22 PM	I think so, with an LA of 4 for the half titan yes Other looks also balanced
Evil DM Mk3 06-12-07, 05:25 PM	Thanks, I take it the line of dots earlier was your brain shutting down in self defense?
Camu 06-12-07, 05:29 PM	yes, and to anounce an not so long after posted 'euw' although, after just checking a few other templates, the LA of the half titan template might be more of a +5 then +4
Evil DM Mk3 06-12-07, 05:31 PM	I built it off the half-celestial, removed flight, tuned up the physicals a bit, removed quite a few resistances and changed the spell likes to those on the titan list. I think it works.
Camu 06-12-07, 05:37 PM	well it's probably somewhere allong LA 4.5, so it will always be open for discussion if you round it down or up :D I based my judgement on both half troll (LA +4) for the stats, and even they don't have 2 + 8 bonusses and the half illithid template (+5) both are from fiend folio
Evil DM Mk3 06-12-07, 05:38 PM	Ill tone the Con down.
Evil DM Mk3 06-12-07, 05:44 PM	Does the culture work? I reckon you could pull it off as a setting on it's own if you made it bigger and gave the titans DvR1 (or not even that).
Camu 06-12-07, 05:49 PM	I don't see why the culture wouldn't work, even if not divine, it is possible for weak creatures to worship stronger
d24478667 06-12-07, 06:28 PM	Seeing as my internet is still screwed up, and I can't always make it to the computer, Frostbite basically won't notice any of what happened, particularly because I have no time to read the pages I missed. My apologies.
Delfedd 06-13-07, 05:54 PM	I decided to draw a political map. I also included the major ley lines. They're centralized. If you guys don't like the way the ley lines are, just tell me. There wasn't much info as to how or where the ley lines where. http://img253.imageshack.us/img253/6947/lordsofcreationpoliticaxr0.th.jpg (http://img253.imageshack.us/my.php?image=lordsofcreationpoliticaxr0. jpg)
Evil DM Mk3 06-13-07, 05:57 PM	Pitty the intigartion did not work out...
Delfedd 06-13-07, 05:58 PM	The ten towers thing? No, I'm just putting them there because it's near the lizardfold (Like you asked). They remain independant. But yes, it is a pitty. Mostly because you brainwash people! Also, I didn't say that he wouldn't. He has to talk to icoscol
Evil DM Mk3 06-13-07, 06:01 PM	What the hell gave you that idea? Where does brainwashing come into it?!?
Delfedd 06-13-07, 06:11 PM	*Shrug.* Remiel went in with the impression that the ten towers people are trying to take over. What better way than to win over the elite, most intellegent youths?
Evil DM Mk3 06-13-07, 06:14 PM	Prehaps he should see what an insane Psion can end up doing... 5th level Psion goes nova in a crowded market, dozens dead. 10th level Psion goes nova in a crowded market, maps re-drawn.
Delfedd 06-13-07, 06:35 PM	well... they would all be level one psions. Also, think about this in terms of players. Would a psion player have to be either insane or be trained by one person in particular?
riverrock 06-13-07, 06:55 PM	After much consideration, I am not sure that I want to continue participating in this thread. I put a lot of work into this thread, and I am getting very little enjoyment out of it. I will continue for about a week or so, and then I will make my decision about whether or not I want to continue on. If I decide not to, I will hand over my administrative functions to whoever can fufill them.
ewancummins 06-13-07, 07:55 PM	Sorry to hear you aren't enjoying the thread as much as you might. Is there anything that would make it more enjoyable for you? Hate to lose you. As you said, you've put a lot of fine work into the thread.
Evil DM Mk3 06-14-07, 03:04 AM	WHAT? Why? I mean I know there have been a few flare ups but I thought you where enjoying it. I would be happy to take over the admin side if you wanted.
Evil DM Mk3 06-14-07, 03:07 AM	well... they would all be level one psions. Also, think about this in terms of players. Would a psion player have to be either insane or be trained by one person in particular? I deliberatley used the phrasing "most" and tried to imply that a Psion can in theory go a long way and never go insane, in theory So you coul dhave a level 200 Psion who suddenly looses it, again IN THEORY. The reason I wanted the intiration was to further spread (it is allready in the swamps and this Psion city) the method so it diverdifies and becomes less of a monolith. BTW does friends in the east mean teh Ten Towers?
Evil DM Mk3 06-14-07, 07:30 AM	Hang on did I read the main thread right or have you tried to get a person to the places where they can teach others to untap the full porential of their mind, by BREAKING his mind? I know there are no rules for it but if Psionics + Mental strain = Dandgerous insanity... Gods that is the dumbest thing this Lich has done, and to be honest he has allready done some quite dumb things.
Delfedd 06-14-07, 11:48 AM	First. I adressed your "concerns" in a PM. Icoscol firmly believes in rearing children well. To ask to take a child away at their most pivotal stage would be tantamount to strongly deciding that they want to go to war. Also, you can't just decide that that makes dangerous insanity. It's gotta be a group thing. Also, who says that icoscol doesn't want mad psions?
Evil DM Mk3 06-14-07, 11:54 AM	I achnolwadge ( and adress ) the other points but the one about insanty, it was introduced, with Psionics, the smae month as you killed Kur-ah off. NOW is a little late in the game to ret-con it don't you think? And ho would want mad Psions?
Delfedd 06-14-07, 10:11 PM	Huh. Didn't remember it. of course, things could just change.
Evil DM Mk3 06-15-07, 04:26 AM	If I want to have a mortal make an artifact off his own back do I still have to send AP?
Camu 06-15-07, 06:45 AM	Dunno Maybe, but I also spend AP on the races I find, although i don't actually 'create' them But maybe you can let them create an artifact, without spending your AP, but then that artifact won't grand a DvR bonus when a god would wield it.
Delfedd 06-15-07, 08:04 AM	Yes.
Evil DM Mk3 06-15-07, 09:54 AM	Its just that the artifact(s), they are sort of a set or more like one artifact that has mutliple parts, would have no benefit for a god.
Delfedd 06-15-07, 09:57 AM	Huh? I'm sorry... that post just doesn't make sense. Please fix it.
Camu 06-15-07, 09:59 AM	Well for artifacts, like a set of palanthir like devices that allow the leaders of the many nations communicate with each other, or things similar to it, it could be allowed to be created without spending AP
Delfedd 06-15-07, 10:01 AM	Ah. Those'd be like minor artifacts. I think that the plainsrunners have already created things like the Palantir. What we do for minor artifacts is create several copies of the item, then mention that the art was lost later on.
Evil DM Mk3 06-15-07, 10:08 AM	Actualy they are quite like Palantir but with extra functionality and a few other important differances. I love the idea of the Palantir, they are going to be a sort of gift for the Empire, more details to follow.
Delfedd 06-15-07, 10:10 AM	Well, as I said, the Plainsrunners have made communication objects already.
Evil DM Mk3 06-15-07, 10:12 AM	These are more sort of swiss army scring devices that can work as a comunication network as well as transmitting certain types spells through them and allowing for more types of vision.
Camu 06-15-07, 11:11 AM	raise DvR is still 3AP rigth, or is it already changed to 4AP
Camu 06-15-07, 11:16 AM	nevermind, ooulzoth evolves instead of the increase in divine rank
Evil DM Mk3 06-15-07, 11:51 AM	WHY ARE YOU EVOLVING? You never spend teh damned AP anyway!
Camu 06-15-07, 11:57 AM	dunno, i thought it would fit, since he got the that part from blight first i had ooulzoth raise divine rank a few times, but that didn't feel right, I don't really see him as a greater deity the reason I spend almost no AP is because with the exams I still have (on more week thank god) I don't have that much time to come up with a few great things to spend it with
Return of the Flumph 06-15-07, 08:03 PM	*Return of the Flumph stands in a dark, smoke-filled chamber, struggling not to choke from the stench of the lamb he has just slaughtered and placed inside the pentagram. Slowly, he waves his hands and recites the forbidden words. In a flash of green fire and a sound like a thousand angels weeping in pain, a demodand appears inside the diagram.* Demodand: "Why have you wrenched me from the Place Without Name, oh foolish youth?" RotF: "Son of Ooulzoth and Blight, I, Return of the Flumph, have summoned you here to give unto your masters the soul of one who has angered me, and unto you adequete payment for your services." Demodand: "Ah...very well. Who is the one who incurs your wrath, and what has he done to bring you to calling the attention of the Nameless upon your mortal head?" Rotf: "His, name, oh child of corruption, is Riverrock. In announcing his intention to abandon the Lords of Creation project within the week, he threatens to leave me as the sole player of noninsane deities extant in the game." Demodand: "Ahaha, very well. I'll soon be back...with the one you seek." ... The moral of the story? DON'T QUIT LOC OR YOUR SOUL WILL ETERNALLY SUFFER!!!!!!!!!!!
Delfedd 06-15-07, 09:38 PM	Hey, I resent that. Morintu's not insane. He's just lawful. Same with the artifact lords. They're not insane. And what about arteheyn?
Return of the Flumph 06-15-07, 10:17 PM	Hey, I resent that. Morintu's not insane. He's just lawful. Same with the artifact lords. They're not insane. And what about arteheyn? Okay, I exaggerated for dramatic effect. PLEASE DON'T TAKE MY SOUL!!!
Delfedd 06-15-07, 10:37 PM	To late. Do you know the internet that you're using? That's actually an artifact. Created by me. Welcome to the artifact lords.
ewancummins 06-15-07, 11:42 PM	Mr Gore?? :)
Return of the Flumph 06-16-07, 01:21 AM	To late. Do you know the internet that you're using? That's actually an artifact. Created by me. Welcome to the artifact lords. An effective divine rank of 1 is far from the worst thing that could happen to me.
Destrieth 06-16-07, 01:51 AM	Honestly, I'm not surprised at all. Riverrock and I talk alot so this event was hardly news to me. =( Gonna miss him though.
Evil DM Mk3 06-16-07, 11:56 AM	The Empire mirrors. A set of artifacts made by the mages of the Ten Towers for their new allies in the Empire, partially as a sign of good faith and partially as an apology for the unfortunate but necessary deaths of those who attacked their towers. Due to their design it will not be possible to add new ones. Lesser mirrors. About the size of a side plate these "mirrors" are a dull grey and not reflective. Around the rim are 21 symbols, the top is always a simple circle but the others are 20 of a pool of 21, the missing one appearing as a watermark on the surface of the mirror. It has a solid bar on the back that allow you to hold it in your hand. The most basic function of the mirror is to allow you to access other mirrors in a manner that resembles a video-phone. touching the symbol of the mirror you want to contact opens communication, touching it again allows you to hear sound. Touching the top symbol severs the connection. Greater mirrors can also be contacted by touching three symbols simultaneously (which three depends on the mirror). It is possible to "conference call" with these devices. Second it its functions it is a scrying device. In this capacity it is difficult to use as the rim symbols have to be used to input proper co-ordinates. A DC 25 int check as a move action allows you to see a specific location. Failure by less than 10 shows you a similar but incorrect location (a different wizard's lab, the wrong street in a city) and a DC 15 Wis check lets you know you are in the wrong place. Failure by 10 or more shows you empty space, you have overshot the planet... If you have used this mirror to find the place before you need only make a DC 5 check to remember the co-ordinates. Whilst scring on a location you have no maximum duration and all visual and audio senses can be transmitted through the mirror. If placed on your chest all of your senses are considered to originate from that spot. Whilst working in this capacity it allows you to cast any divination spell through it. Third once per week it can contact another plane as the spell at caster level 10. When a mirror is working in one function it cannot function in any other function, so a mirror that is scrying cannot be reached by communication. Greater mirrors. There are three of these. They are about two foot wide and are encircled by the 21 symbols, they have all of the functions of the Lesser mirrors but work by thought alone, requiring no int checks to scry or combinations to find other greater mirrors. They also show what the lesser mirrors are doing, if they are scrying, who they are communicating with and so on. In addition the owner of a Greater mirror has the option of viewing such scrying and communication, as well as severing it. Each of the three Greater mirrors has an extra function. Icoscol's mirror or the Spellwiever's mirror was gifted to Icoscol. When communicating with a lesser mirror or scrying ANY spell may be cast through it. Hergin's mirror of the Keystone mirror is the hub of the network. As such it allows it's owner to locate each of the other mirrors with perfect precision. The shrouding mirror has the ability to make locations unreachable to the scrying function of the other mirrors. Currently it is believed that the lesser mirrors are all in the ownership of the empire, few know the greater mirrors even exist. For ease of use the greater mirrors adear to any wall they are placed on and can be removed with ease, removing the need for nails or hooks to hang them.
Delfedd 06-16-07, 12:24 PM	Icoscol is soon going to have a great shift in his power. This will allow minor nobles to gain great power very quickly. If everyone could create a dignitary who will one day rule a house/guild type thing, that would be great. Please set the characters up as the following Name Race (Should be a race which is part of the empire.) Class (no more than 10 levels) Alignment Outlook These characters will (theoretically) become the rulers of the remains of the empire..
Evil DM Mk3 06-16-07, 12:32 PM	:eek: :) :) :) :) do fish swim? Is Icoscol a Morintuian? Gryfydd Gryfydds. Human Fighter 4, Aristocrat(From wealth ect) 2 Alignment LN, leaning towards LG A male human, strong, charismatic and energetic. He made his wealth by establishing some of the first really reliable trade roughts to use the Giant Bridges (before this it tended to be limited and infrequent travel). He is approaching 35 and still going strong. His word is his bond. He is honourable, loyal, deidcated and honest. Many people have made the mistake of assuming this also means he is stuipid and nieve. He is neither. He is a strong fighter, and can afford to hire better ones. He used to guard his own caravans. He tends to be a bit buff, in your face and hearty, talking in a shout. Nevertheless he is shrewd, particularly when it comes to trade and empire-non-empire relations, and generally well liked. His only real lament at the moment is the fact that he is yet to be married as he wants to create a legacy.
Return of the Flumph 06-16-07, 12:40 PM	Tiahkis Yalfarrow Ezera Wizard 4/Expert 2 Alignment: True Neutral (lawful evil tendencies. Depending on what happens, he may become more thoroughly LE) This ezera guildsman was the first among the Artificer's Guild to actively pursue the expansion of the magic item trade to the Empire when most of the higher-ups of his organization still did not trust it. Due to this, he was promoted to Guildmaster (despite being low-level in a meritocratic organization), and has proven himself a shrewed businessman out to make a name for his race in the venue of magical merchandice. A calculating, machiavellian politician, Tiahkis does what he believes will best serve his family, city, and race, no matter how many careers he has to crush in doing so. He is a growing political power in his city.
Evil DM Mk3 06-16-07, 12:45 PM	Alignment? Could be LN LE or NE, depending on what you mean by "A calculating, machiavellian politician, Tiahkis does what he believes will best serve his family, city, and race, no matter how many careers he has to crush in doing so."
Return of the Flumph 06-16-07, 07:41 PM	Alignment? Could be LN LE or NE, depending on what you mean by "A calculating, machiavellian politician, Tiahkis does what he believes will best serve his family, city, and race, no matter how many careers he has to crush in doing so." TN with LE tendencies.
ewancummins 06-16-07, 09:28 PM	Safra Iressi Lizardfolk [green] Expert 6 Alignment NG Safra is a young female from a powerful lizardfolk clan, the Iressi. Her charisma and shrewd trading skills have made her the de facto head of the clan's trading branch at an age when most of her peers are still considered probationary traders. The elders tolerate this unusual situation because she is amassing great wealth for the clan. Her family controls more than half of the Blackwater- a mildly acidic region of swamp that provides the world's best environment for growing darkwood. The darkwood is used to make superior weapons, boats, ships, wooden buildings,etc. The material is very light and strong compared to most hardwoods. Iressi darkwood boats, once rarely seen outside the swamplands, nowadays traverse the waterways of the Empire, carrying all sorts of cargo between settlements. Much of this expansion of trade has been overseen by Safra herself. Safra is disposed to be fair in her dealings with others, and has a well-known charitable streak. She is well liked by most people who know her personally, even many of her business rivals.
Delfedd 06-16-07, 11:40 PM	Nice use of Mold land by britmara.
ewancummins 06-16-07, 11:44 PM	Thanks. Britmara's fall into the lake makes it a holy site for her cultists, who will begin to flock there on pilgrimages. Note that she would have been invisible to mortals, who would have only seen a shimmering cloud of colors shooting fdown from heaven- her wreath of excess positive energy. Like a comet, almost.
Delfedd 06-16-07, 11:47 PM	It's so weird to call a good gods worshipers cultists. Although I suppose that when they're in the empire, they're more like a cult than anyone else. Where is the lake?
Return of the Flumph 06-17-07, 02:36 AM	Technically, a "cult" is any religion that is based completely around a single being or concept. Almost all DnD religions are cults.
Evil DM Mk3 06-17-07, 08:52 AM	Right if anyone wants to **** about with the giants here is your chance. Remember there are a lot of giants I did not make. No ogres, hill giants, death giants, shadow giants, swamp giants...
ewancummins 06-17-07, 12:05 PM	The lake? Wherever you want to place it. Britmara's cult does not demand exclusive worship of the demigoddess, BTW. No, they are more like a fraternal order than a formal church. There is a hierarchy, but it's mostly for ceremonial purposes. The teachings and rituals are based on lupin culture, but all non-evil races are accepted[ good members of a traditionally evil race are possible, but must go through a extra probationary period while they prove their loyalty and virtue]. The cult's goals are to provide mutual aid for members, help the less fortunate, and combat evil. Mmebrs are recruited mainly in the cities. Freed slaves, soldiers, and traders are the cult's main targets for recruitment.
Evil DM Mk3 06-17-07, 12:10 PM	If I where to begat Llyr as a NE giant deiaty upon his comming of age, would anyone want to play him?
ewancummins 06-17-07, 12:16 PM	I'm too busy with running two gods.
Evil DM Mk3 06-17-07, 02:42 PM	I would ahve time to run it (idealy as an equal to parent in terms of DvR and special rules) but I allready have two. However an incarnate NG and an incarnate NE god with giants on either side would be a nice note of intrest as oposed to other worlds.
ewancummins 06-17-07, 03:03 PM	Looks like Janusunaj is leaving. Too bad.
Janusunaj 06-17-07, 05:33 PM	oh, and, maybe it would be nice if Amon left, instead of being murdered again.
ewancummins 06-17-07, 06:07 PM	No murdering Amon. Maybe he just seal Heaven off to all but the souls of the righteous? He could become a distant figure, acting only indirectly through his followers. That'd take him out of play without killing him. Just an idea.
Kirtanus_Albacron 06-17-07, 06:27 PM	With riverrock gone, is there going to be another referee? I believe that having two is a healthy balance, and we should have a vote.
riverrock 06-17-07, 06:32 PM	I'm not gone yet, ok? I said I was considering it, and I will decide before the week is out. Don't start celebrating my demise yet, ok?;)
ewancummins 06-17-07, 06:34 PM	Kyrinian is invited to the party too, you know.:)
Illeveun Bloodblaze 06-17-07, 06:35 PM	I think that I posted somwhere that there are many leylines, always shifting, and that they interconect, cross over, and things like that. There would probably be too many to draw on a map.
Return of the Flumph 06-17-07, 06:35 PM	I'm not gone yet, ok? I said I was considering it, and I will decide before the week is out. Don't start celebrating my demise yet, ok?;) Riverrock is not leaving, or the demodands will be on him faster than anyone could want to believe possible. I could theoretically take on another god. I already have two, but I think I could handle another. First, though, we should make sure that there are no other players with only one god who want to. BTW, we haven't had any newcomers wanting to play, have we? I told a couple of friends about it and they seemed interested.
ewancummins 06-17-07, 07:03 PM	I think a two god limit per player is something we should consider, just to keep things under some semblance of control. That would also help keep slots open for new players with new gods. Just a suggestion.
Evil DM Mk3 06-18-07, 03:19 AM	OK the reason I am concerned about this god in particular is that he will not exist as a force somwhere, he allready exists as a person. I would enjoy running him myself. Also if riverrock does chose to leave I allready have a god update list. TyDyw rules in a nutshell. Wait 1 month after asking to enter. If no one says no then you do. No direct theft of portfolio elements. No violance against each other. Right to ask for aid from other gods. Right of arbitration. Your clerics ahve right of sanctuary in their temples (revoked during war)
Destrieth 06-18-07, 10:28 AM	Well, if anyone creates a deity, I'd be more than happy to run one. Alusia is keeping disturbingly quiet as various plots simmer on the burner, so I'm left without much to say these days.
Evil DM Mk3 06-18-07, 10:36 AM	Well what about playing Llyr of Gwynedd after Llyr of Gwyn? Once he comes of age that is. He is a half titan storm giant and is likely to be dark and evil (hence his breakaway). I had thought the "souls of giants go to the king" bit might be a problem untill I realised that if you create death giants (forget which book) their swarm of souls could be a surogate king's arua for the other giants to follow you. If you want to go into more details PMs will be needed to save space.
Destrieth 06-18-07, 10:41 AM	Not that I don't like to be an evil sunnovvagun, but I don't want to have two deities that are alike. It'd just make me lazy and it wouldn't be fair for your deity.
Evil DM Mk3 06-18-07, 10:44 AM	Well his personality is not yet decided, he could be a god of almost anything, what we have here is an origin, not cause. You would almost certainly have to make some giants however apart from that your free choice.
Destrieth 06-18-07, 10:52 AM	I only meant in the most general sense. What I was saying is that I don't want to play two evil gods. :P So yeah. Maybe Llyr could go to someone else, though.
Evil DM Mk3 06-18-07, 10:54 AM	Well I am back down to 0 evil gods. Again. :rolleyes:
Destrieth 06-18-07, 10:55 AM	What are you talking about? All of your deities were evil in one way or another. Don't hide it! I know you're a schemer. You talk sweet, but I know your game.
Evil DM Mk3 06-18-07, 10:58 AM	Here is a curve ball. (As in if you do this I will be suprised) Would you be interested in taking over the line of giant kings and me playing Llyr? A nice interesting good aligned god but with variable personalityies so you are not tied to my choices.
Destrieth 06-18-07, 11:18 AM	It's a possibility, actually. I can't say yes or no right now (gotta give it some thought and whatnot) but it's certainly an idea.
Evil DM Mk3 06-18-07, 11:21 AM	Cool, I will have to dig out the exact details of the special rules that I agreed to.
ewancummins 06-18-07, 02:11 PM	I found this in the summaries at the beginning of the second thread. The rules of TyDw: 1.No direct action against any other signitary or their heralds either in TyDyw or outside it. 2.No outright theft of portfolio rights, allowing evolution into those areas. 3.The right to request assistance form any signitary. 4.Sanctuary to the clergy of all signitaries in your temples for 3 days, revoked in times of conflict. 5.The right to chose another signitary to arbitrate disbutes. 6.All new members to be aproved by all current members, abstinations counting as aproval and objections to be made, with reasons, within one celestial month.
ewancummins 06-18-07, 02:16 PM	Arteheyn also created giant insects[including ankhegs] , greenscale lizardfolk, mortai, and aurumoraxes. Could all those be added to my list, please? Also, she didn't make lupins, that was Britmara.
FlyingRoman 06-18-07, 03:14 PM	I found this in the summaries at the beginning of the second thread. The rules of TyDw: 1.No direct action against any other signitary or their heralds either in TyDyw or outside it. 2.No outright theft of portfolio rights, allowing evolution into those areas. 3.The right to request assistance form any signitary. 4.Sanctuary to the clergy of all signitaries in your temples for 3 days, revoked in times of conflict. 5.The right to chose another signitary to arbitrate disbutes. 6.All new members to be aproved by all current members, abstinations counting as aproval and objections to be made, with reasons, within one celestial month. Thanks. I'll try and post as soon as real life stops pestering me for attention.
ewancummins 06-18-07, 03:22 PM	Sure. As I am sure you all realize, the party is a good way to have some face to face deity inetraction, without combat. It should help introduce the new gods, and bring back in older ones that have been isolated. That's the out of game reason for it; the in game reason is that Arteheyn was bored and lonely. ;)
FlyingRoman 06-18-07, 03:33 PM	A few questions:How many unused TyDw planes are there? What are they? Shall i spend AP to get them or are they "free"?
Evil DM Mk3 06-18-07, 03:45 PM	They are free and spring up as and when needed. They do not follow normal logic, you could say (for example) that a road is a mile long east to west and infinite west to east if you wanted.
ewancummins 06-18-07, 04:17 PM	I just had Arteheyn add non-intelligent fungoid beasties to the Underdark. Watchdogs of the myconids. I'm trying to add more monsters, instead of just intelligent races. Plenty of those around already.
Kirtanus_Albacron 06-18-07, 05:18 PM	Here is the stats for the Armor of Ryth'eal: +5 Heavy Fortification Full-Plate Daylight at will Searing Light 5 times/day Continual Haste Nondetection Turn Evil Outsiders as a Cleric of 20th level If Worn by a creature with evil alignment the creaturetakes two negative levels
Delfedd 06-19-07, 10:05 AM	"Turn Evil creatures?" Huh. Anyway. I'm going to point something out. I'm not asking you to change it, only think about what you're doing. The elves and ezra have become willing members of the Empire. They wished to become citizens. After fifty years, you'd think that they'd start to enjoy it. And they do. So essentially what's happening is the elves and the Ezra have become the orcs of this camaign setting. Plundering and pillaging. Don't change it. It's new. It's fresh. Sure they have good reasons, but the fact remains that they invaded civilized towns, burned, pillaged, and generally plundered. Then they took captives, and left. No matter that they use magic instead of brute strength. Congratulations. You've created the Horde.
Evil DM Mk3 06-19-07, 10:39 AM	Whereas, of course, the orcs stood alongside the free races against the hordes of Evil. This is also new and fresh. They may be barbaric and savadge but they where there when it mattered. They are OUR barbaric savadges!
Kirtanus_Albacron 06-19-07, 12:20 PM	I'm sorry, but I don't call being turned to stone, having wings cut off, and being bound in chains being a citizen. Either that or having your home invaded and being forced to log trees. Anyways, when the elves were liberated only the people who attacked the ramadeen were killed. The elves would not be willing citizens, because what they wanted was their home. And being taken from their homes are not what they wanted. If they were not slaves anymore, then they would go home. I mean sure, some elves would like to stay in the empire, but for the most part, no. Oh, for the Armor I meant turn Evil Outsiders, not evil creatures.
Illeveun Bloodblaze 06-19-07, 01:19 PM	The same really would be for the Ezera race, saying their really long life spans and other things, they really wouldn't be endeared to the races that enslave them and would probably try to get their mountains back.
Evil DM Mk3 06-19-07, 03:26 PM	Hang on, the Lich is gone right? So who is running the empire?
d24478667 06-19-07, 06:26 PM	Yay! My internet has finally stablized. Frostbite shall now end his hibernation.
Jalkator 06-19-07, 07:00 PM	I'm extremely new to this and don't know where to start.
Illeveun Bloodblaze 06-19-07, 07:02 PM	Also, I did not know that the elves and Ezera were freed, I didn't see it anywhere on the thread. Plus, Delfedd, It's spelled Ezera, not Ezra.
ewancummins 06-19-07, 09:09 PM	I mispell stuff all the time. Lousy typing skills. I don't have this problem when actually writing with a pencil.
Illeveun Bloodblaze 06-19-07, 09:16 PM	Oh, I know about occasional typos, or very rampant ones, but in all of the posts where Delfedd mentions the ezera, he writes ezra.
Return of the Flumph 06-20-07, 01:20 AM	I'm extremely new to this and don't know where to start. Ah, welcome. Have you been given a god yet?
d24478667 06-20-07, 06:49 AM	If not, something could be arranged. I've been out how many turns? I have enough AP to make a god, at least.
Jalkator 06-20-07, 12:26 PM	No, I haven't. What jobs are open at the moment?
Evil DM Mk3 06-20-07, 12:31 PM	Well it is not open yet but there is a possiblity of an incarnate (slightly differant rules) NE god of strength, the half titan child of the Giant Queen. That is if you want it. OR I might be willing to hand the King of All Tribes line over to a new player so I cna take up that god.
Jalkator 06-20-07, 12:46 PM	King of all tribes? That sounds like a big resonsibility. :) I don't know, I don't really understand everything. :/ First off, Is the empire a union of races? If so, who rules it?
Evil DM Mk3 06-20-07, 12:48 PM	The King of All Tribes is the Pharo like power of the Giant Kings.
Delfedd 06-20-07, 02:13 PM	The empire is exactly what it sounds like. A group of people ruled by an emperor. In theory. Come on you guys, the empire is being ruled by no one. Surely some noble would step up to the plate. Also, you never said anything about a long lifespan for the Ezra. The empire is ruled by a lich of epic proportions. He has recently stepped out of the picture, although he will be controling things from behind the scenes for a while. Currently, the most powerful creature in the empire is Kyithiss, the green dragon. This dragons has three of... well, the closest pop culture reference I can make is the "five rings for the dwarf lords."
Jalkator 06-20-07, 02:51 PM	Oh, ok. This is a really good idea, it'd probably make for a great forum rpg. ^^ If your ok with me taking that posistion, so be it. I might need some help though.
Evil DM Mk3 06-20-07, 03:00 PM	What possition? The line of giant kings or the half-titan child of the queen of giants?
Jalkator 06-20-07, 03:22 PM	King of all tribes. Sorry for the lack of clarification.
Evil DM Mk3 06-20-07, 03:26 PM	Right well if everyone is OK with this I will finish this turn (I have to begat the god I am going to move to) and then by next turn I will have sent you all the back info on the line of gods so you know your own past.
Illeveun Bloodblaze 06-20-07, 06:16 PM	I realised thaI never put anything about the lifespan of th ezera, because I haven't gotten around to posting it the the Races thread yet, somethng I was going to do soon.
Delfedd 06-20-07, 07:10 PM	Well... sorry... but I think that'd be kind of unfair at this point. Making them have a super duper lifespan, just so that they don't get influenced by the empire. So no, they aren't the same ones.
Illeveun Bloodblaze 06-20-07, 07:30 PM	It's not a super duper long life span. I have alerady figured it out where they mature at 250 years, and live, At most 1,300 years, with magical help. That gives them about 750 years of activity, which is, if I'm right, not much more than the Dargonesti in DL. After about 1000 years things quickly go downhill, and their bodies grow weak enough so that they can't take any hard activity by 1,100.
ewancummins 06-20-07, 08:29 PM	They take 250 years just to mature? Weird. Are they very slow growing, or something? Just seems strange. Of course, I never understood how elves remained children for over a century. Your race , of course- you make the rules. But I think a shorter lifespan and faster maturation would be cooler.
Illeveun Bloodblaze 06-20-07, 09:25 PM	Basically, yeah they are slow growing. the magical energies inside of them slow their natural maturation and aging.
ewancummins 06-21-07, 12:12 AM	Okay, I must go to bed. Here's my intent for the Purge of the Unclean: Legions of Minor Deaths, backed by the mortai, fly around and smash up the hostile abberations [ note the exception made for Ooulzoth's guys and my ettercaps] along with the apostate titans. This is AP expenditure, big , epic, arsewhooping. I'm talking about hosts of freakin' grim reapers flying down and killing any apostate titans, down to the women and babies. Heavy metal music should be playing in the background[maybe it will, if the giants join in the purge :) . I'm talking about mortai unleashing legendary lightning strikes on any psurlon that dares stick its head above the surface. Mindflayers, beholders, etc. are all targets. The killing should last at least the rest of this divine month[ meaning years of killing]. Think Old Testament style wrath. The after effects? I suppose this is a good reason to explain why abberations tend to live deep underground. They may have a racial memory of the mortai vaporizing them with lightning. The deaths can and will pursue them anywhere, so they will be on the run for some time. The surface people will probably tell stories about how the '' angels of death'' and ''living storms'' drove the unnatural creatures from the sky covered lands.
Evil DM Mk3 06-21-07, 02:06 AM	How is everyone (and by everyone I mostly mean riverrock) over the god swaping idea to the new guy?
Return of the Flumph 06-21-07, 02:56 AM	All for it. Give him one of the old, underused ones whose player has been gone for months.
Evil DM Mk3 06-21-07, 06:28 AM	I wnated to give him the Giant King, but of course there are others...
ewancummins 06-21-07, 07:35 AM	Must go to work now. If a counterrattack is launched, Arteheyn and Britmara will both help. Blowing up some shard worlds would be fun. Killing or imprisoning the alien gods would be nice , too.
Camu 06-21-07, 07:43 AM	remember that none of you actually know where the shard worlds are. In the end i want this shard world to become the home of ooulzoth, similar to other deity's there homes.
Delfedd 06-21-07, 09:47 AM	Okay, I must go to bed. Mindflayers, beholders, etc. are all targets. The killing should last at least the rest of this divine month[ meaning years of killing]. Think Old Testament style wrath. . That will cause some problems with the empire. I have a plan however. It's fine. Also, why has no one tried taking over parts of the empire? You'd think that someone would try, I mean... there's a big power vaccuum. Someone would do something.
Camu 06-21-07, 10:07 AM	I dunno, already have some other plans to carry out, and the only minions I have on the material plane are oozes, worms and chuul, and none of those really have the ambition for controlling an empire, or part of it anyway demodands are busy at the moment with restoring there homes on the nameless plane
Delfedd 06-21-07, 01:48 PM	I'm not saying you have to take control of one of your minions. Create a character, an interesting one. He (or she, or it) doesn't need to be a worshiper of any of your gods.
Camu 06-21-07, 01:55 PM	oh, it's just most made a character from a race they had created so i thought that was the point but since it isn't i might give it a try
Evil DM Mk3 06-21-07, 02:07 PM	I have just been looking at it and handing over a god would be difficult ATM, there will be a god open however, but it will be for you to make afresh. Lesser Deity, Strength domain and a mixed Titan/giant herige. Mother was wise but hurt and abused, father was a deranged evil dude. Play it out form there. All of the actual rules are on the first page of the thread (Labeled as the second thread) Post the god here so riverrock can OK it, I am going to hold off creating untill you get the go ahead but as it will be with this turns AP you should be able to go as soon as you like.
Destrieth 06-21-07, 06:39 PM	Wellp, after much internal debate, Enfermia and its linked planes (Gorgild, Karkeri, Arancix, Enfermia, Law, Air) are all reopened. It's time to kick some Great Old One butt.
ewancummins 06-21-07, 08:01 PM	That will cause some problems with the empire. I have a plan however. It's fine. -Don't worry. She doesn't intend to kill ALL the beholders. That was just a little payback for stealing Morintu's new heart and trashing Eruk. She promised the azers some revenge, as you'll recall. If a sufficient number of beholders have been slain, it would be very easy to get her to exempt them from future strikes. Just ask. Then the minor deaths and mortai can concentrate on umber hulks and other minions of the Old Ones. The psurlons and titan apostates were getting annoying, so smacking them down was just a bonus action.
Delfedd 06-21-07, 10:05 PM	Old ones by the way? Pfft. Young whipersnappers. Why, when I was their age, I had bound myself to the universe, created storms, and created whole planes! Why, what've they done? Nothing.
Jalkator 06-22-07, 01:44 PM	NAME: Llyr [DR:6] Lesser Deity, Fighter 5/ Barbarian 15 Symbol:A man holding up a very large boulder Home: Void Alignment: Neutral Evil Domains: Strength Portfolio: Worshipers: Favored Weapon:Greatsword Avatar: Giant-Titan warrior.
Camu 06-22-07, 01:47 PM	your DvR is way to high
Jalkator 06-22-07, 01:49 PM	Oh, sorry about that. Is that ok?
Camu 06-22-07, 01:50 PM	you normally start with the lowest DvR from your deity level, so for a lesser deity this would be 6 i think you can also start with 30 class levels rest of it looks fine
Jalkator 06-22-07, 01:56 PM	Ok, thanks. One question I have though, how do you know how many action points you have?
FlyingRoman 06-22-07, 02:00 PM	From original thread:Supreme: > Div Rank: 21+ > Max Class lvl: 50 > Domains: 3/9 > Base Action Pts: 6 Greater: > Div Rank: 16-20 >Max Class lvl: 48 > Domains: 2/7 > Base Action Pts: 5 Intermediate: > Div Rank: 11-15 > Max Class lvl: 41 > Domains: 2/5> Base Action Pts: 4 Lesser: > Div Rank: 6-10 > Max Class lvl: 34 > Domains: 1/4 > Base Action Pts: 3 Demi: > Div Rank: 1-5 > Max Class lvl: 29 > Domains: 1/3 > Base Action Pts: 2 Heroic deity > Div Rank: 0 > Max Class lvl: 25 > Domains 0 > Base Action Pts: 1
Jalkator 06-22-07, 02:01 PM	Thanks again. ^^
Camu 06-22-07, 02:02 PM	it depends how strong your god is in your case, for a lesser deity you get 3AP to spend each divine month (per week) but you can raise this by evolving or increasing your DvR so you become an intermediate deity you can find the rules here rules (http://boards1.wizards.com/showthread.php?t=808032)
Evil DM Mk3 06-22-07, 03:09 PM	The kid was named Llyr, but who am I to tell you you cannot change your name?:)
riverrock 06-22-07, 04:17 PM	nvm
riverrock 06-23-07, 12:42 AM	If anyone has anything in their god description that needs updating, please tell me.
Evil DM Mk3 06-23-07, 03:13 AM	Yes, Father Blight has lost Vile darkness, gained Luck and Healing, is now Chaotic Neutral, has worshipers of "Healers, the insane and cultists", has two heads and if you could see your way clear to allowing the madnes domain I would be very happy.
d24478667 06-23-07, 08:53 AM	Favored Weapon: Glacieso's Eye (Bow) Domain: (possibly, if you think he deserves it) add cold. DvR:8
Destrieth 06-23-07, 07:16 PM	Divine Rank: 16 (Greater Deity) Title: The Black Lady of Enfermia
riverrock 06-23-07, 09:23 PM	Also, since I am retaining my administrative function, I would like to make a few requests that I feel will make my job easier and help the functioning of the game. 1. When I request information about a new deities origin, I would like it if I was answered respectfully. 2. If I have opened up a new "spontaneous" deity position, and you want to take the slot but change the origin, please pm me to make sure its ok. 3. Do not interpret silence on my part as seal of approval. If you have a question about something that needs my input, and I haven't said anything, feel free to pm me. 4. At any time, if their is an inaccuracy in your deity description, feel free to inform me of the problem. 5. Remember to inform me of new deities. 6. If you think an action warrants you earning a domain, feel free to say so in the post, but rememeber that it isn't necessarily automatic. That's basically it. I feel that these requests will make the functioning of the game smoother and more peaceful. Thank you.
Return of the Flumph 06-23-07, 11:55 PM	Thank you for that, Riverrock. In keeping with these new dictates, I would like to make a formal request for Glykllivar to receive the Protection domain. She helped save the surface world from Blight even though it wasn't her responsibility, she saved the ocean by throwing the moon away, and now she's trying to protect Haven from Alusia. Can I have it?
riverrock 06-23-07, 11:57 PM	Absolutely. On that topic, I've give Frostbite cold, and Blight Madness.
Destrieth 06-24-07, 12:04 AM	See, Illeveun, way to ruin a great roleplaying moment I was fostering with Flumph. We were raising some grand claims, and Lexius comes in, swinging his maul blindly and complaining that he lost a bunch of stuff because he threw it at a brick wall and expected to win. Not to mention there's no reason Lexius would even KNOW all this was going on... /sigh
riverrock 06-24-07, 12:07 AM	Yeah, how would Lexius have known that Alusia was even there? How is it that two gods were able to sneak up behind Alusia and follow her? I could buy one, but two? Was Lexius even at the battle to begin with?
Return of the Flumph 06-24-07, 12:09 AM	Gly was watching Alusia from the moment she appeared on the Prime (makes sense, since she's the only remaining member of her old enemy, the Enfermia Pact). I was actually meaning to use this opportunity to confront her, if possible. If she took off for Haven, Gly would notice. And yeah, way to ruin a glorious catfight.
Destrieth 06-24-07, 12:10 AM	Yeah, I got no problem talking with Gly. I expected SOME resistance. I didn't expect Lexius the Lame coming in and spewing whatever it is all over as usual. I guess I'm tired of beating around the bush and pretending I like everyone here. Because I don't.
riverrock 06-24-07, 12:11 AM	I buy Gly being able to follow her, and it is a good role playing oppurtunity. Lexius tagging along is what strains my credulity.
Illeveun Bloodblaze 06-24-07, 12:14 AM	Lexius was at the battle, he saw Alusia fighting. He probably would be able to follow her.
Destrieth 06-24-07, 12:19 AM	Well, that's great. Except it doesn't raise the burning issue I've struggled with for the entirety of this game. I'm not going to play high and mighty, because a lot of people predate me, but I like to think I've done my fair share of contribution. I don't make too many posts, but they're usually sizeable, and I read EVERY post when I get the chance. I'm going to let the cat out of the bag. I'm pretty disgusted with the people who vanish for 3+ pages and come back and make a post like nothing ever happened, and when that conflicts with something that has already taken place (which happens a bit) they have to go back and edit it away because of carelessness. And I know people have busy lives. I do too. But I can read the thread and make informed posts. But that's just me ranting. I'm loving the RP situation with Gly. What I -don't- like, and never have, is the gods who make fairweather posts that have little connection with what's been going on at the present, or do spontaneous super actions with no precedent.
Return of the Flumph 06-24-07, 12:22 AM	Okay, I agree with all that one hundred percent, but what does that have to do with the situation at hand?
Destrieth 06-24-07, 12:23 AM	It does and it doesn't. I'm sick of the people who waltz around every 2-3 pages with nonsensical posts that have little to do with anything else, and get involved in stuff that clearly has no connection with their interests. Really, I'm just venting steam. :)
Illeveun Bloodblaze 06-24-07, 12:32 AM	There are those like me. I'm probably am one of those who you are talking about. But the thing is. Those ones like me usually don't have time to read every single post, because we have things to do. We try to go along, but sometimes we can only skim.
ewancummins 06-24-07, 12:38 AM	Only heir, eh? Forgetting the sister, are we?;)
Destrieth 06-24-07, 12:40 AM	"Sister... you have a twin sister..." Damn! I forgot all about Britmara. I figure half the lung would probably say "Yeah, you're right!" and go to Britmara out of loyalty to Amon before he went crazy and decided to stink at being good. Other half would probably side with Alusia since she's pretty much offering them power. Sound ok?
Illeveun Bloodblaze 06-24-07, 12:43 AM	Also, Destrieth, Enfermia is open for otjher gods to go in now, right?
Destrieth 06-24-07, 12:43 AM	Pretty much, yeah. (I think I'm going to regret it)
ewancummins 06-24-07, 01:02 AM	Sounds fine to me Destrieth. I was hoping for something like that, in fact. Dividing the plane may not be possible. It doesn't have seperate layers, as far as I know.
Destrieth 06-24-07, 01:47 AM	Alusia's effective DR is 16 +2 for two artifacts, +1 for being a martial deity using Delfedd's formula. so 19.
Illeveun Bloodblaze 06-24-07, 01:55 AM	Lexius' effective DvR is 18 for his 2 artifacts, but what formula are you talking about?
Destrieth 06-24-07, 01:57 AM	:mad: You make me want to die. Seriously. No remorse that Lexius may be a murderer, barely reading... urrgh. I'm not going to say anymore.
ewancummins 06-24-07, 01:59 AM	This is good drama. ''My only friend!'' Damn, I felt bad for Alusia just then.
Illeveun Bloodblaze 06-24-07, 02:00 AM	Would you still kindly tell me where that formula is?
Destrieth 06-24-07, 02:18 AM	you're lucky I'm nice. It's right here (http://boards1.wizards.com/showpost.php?p=12589084&postcount=1979). I think Alusia is just a bit stronger.
Illeveun Bloodblaze 06-24-07, 02:20 AM	Okay, thanks. But also, I have an idea. Just one question. Would it take Ap to make just a regular plant?
Destrieth 06-24-07, 02:21 AM	No, I want Lexius to die. He deserves that for being so obviously Chaotic Evil it's sick.
riverrock 06-24-07, 02:23 AM	A plant would probably cost 2 Ap to make (create populus), although a case could be made for 1 (nourish land).
Illeveun Bloodblaze 06-24-07, 02:23 AM	Chaotic Evil?
Destrieth 06-24-07, 02:24 AM	You attacked someone when they obviously weren't looking for a fight, you pressed the issue and a good deity stepped in to defend, and you attacked and killed him. Evil if I ever saw it, though I guess you could decide your flavor.
ewancummins 06-24-07, 02:25 AM	I'm fairly certain we went with ''no god can be killed without the player's consent'' as a rule. This was after Amon and Kur-ah were snuffed out. So what really matters iis how you guys want to settle it.
Destrieth 06-24-07, 02:27 AM	And I will settle for nothing less than a slaying of Lexius. You can take a new god, but I think it's only fair that Lexius dies; I would even go as far to say that he's more evil than Alusia ever could be. But I'll see how he decides to handle it, I suppose. Alusia's prepared to sacrifice herself to see Lexius dead and gone.
ewancummins 06-24-07, 02:28 AM	I thought Kyrinian leapt in front of the attack. Lexius wasn't aiming at him.
Illeveun Bloodblaze 06-24-07, 02:29 AM	1) One evil act does not make you evil 2) Lexius did not mean to hit Kyrinian 3) In Lexius's view, Alusia deserved to die because she corrupted and enslaved his celestials. He believes that he is doing it for the greater good. Also, riverrock, could I use the nourish land option just this once? I want to do something that could make a great myth really, but I only have 1 ap left.
Destrieth 06-24-07, 02:29 AM	Kyrinian had stepped in front to stop the fight in the first place, he threw the maul anyway, and Kyrinian took the bullet. EDIT: And Darth Vader believed that he was helping his wife by falling to the Dark Side. Funny, that. :P
riverrock 06-24-07, 02:32 AM	Also, riverrock, could I use the nourish land option just this once? I want to do something that could make a great myth really, but I only have 1 ap left. I personally don't see a problem with that.
ewancummins 06-24-07, 02:32 AM	''Not from a Jedi...''
Illeveun Bloodblaze 06-24-07, 02:33 AM	I said that Lexius aimed it, or tried to aim it, so that it would miss both Kyrinian and Alusia, serving only as a distraction.
Destrieth 06-24-07, 02:34 AM	Difference of degree, not of kind.
ewancummins 06-24-07, 02:35 AM	Keep posting, please. I really think this is good stuff. Are any of the three gods going to die?
Destrieth 06-24-07, 02:36 AM	Well, Alusia is on the ground. I'm waiting out of courtesy to Illeveun to respond, and then I'll respond in turn. We'll see what happens. Next time, on "All my Deities..."
Illeveun Bloodblaze 06-24-07, 02:40 AM	I really don't want Lexius to die. I've grown to attached to him. Plus with out him who will take care of magic?
Destrieth 06-24-07, 02:42 AM	I guess that's the difference. I'm prepared to sacrifice my deity to tell a better story. But it's your call in the end, I guess.
ewancummins 06-24-07, 02:43 AM	I like all your gods. I would be sad to see any of them die. If gods do perish, I hope their players remain active. Making a new god is always an option. EvilDm did it.
Illeveun Bloodblaze 06-24-07, 02:55 AM	I posted what happened to Lexius just now. I'm not sure if anybody else likes the way i did it, but it seems best for me. Lexius will probably emerge changed, I'm not sure how.
Destrieth 06-24-07, 02:57 AM	I can live with that. Well played. Maybe he'll emerge wiser down the road. In the meantime, I'm at a crossroads with Alusia. I'm in a position to let her die and take a new deity, somehow keep her alive with everyone's intervention, or let her go and move on from the game. I'm looking at the last one as my best option, but hell, I don't want to turn this into a pity party, so what do you all think?
ewancummins 06-24-07, 03:02 AM	Well..... I would love it if you kept playing. You've contributed a lot to this whole cmapaign/thread. I feel the same way about Riverrock. If you want to play a new god, let Alusia die. If you want o keep on playing her, I think you should. She's cool.
ewancummins 06-24-07, 03:15 AM	Britmara will concentrate on healing her sister, letting the others care for Kyrinian. I have to get some sleep. Will post sometime tomorrow.
Destrieth 06-24-07, 03:16 AM	Sounds good. I'll decide what to do when more people throw in their input. Think of it as American Idol. The lines are open. :P
Return of the Flumph 06-24-07, 03:34 AM	Alusia is what would happen if Glasya suddenly became an ineffable badass. I love it. Keep her.
Destrieth 06-24-07, 03:40 AM	That's a high compliment, thanks a ton! You still win, btw.
ewancummins 06-24-07, 01:15 PM	Riverrock, please add talking beasts, giant bugs,ankhegs, aurumvoraxes, mortai, fungoids[ascomoids, phycomids, basidirond, phantom fungus-all related species] and minor deaths to Arteheyn's list. Please remove lupins[Britmara actually created those]. I'll find Britmara's full write up[it's a few pages back on this thread] and ask you to post it on the first page. Her DVR went up from base by 1[used an increase DVR action]. Creations are lupins. Thank you- Ewan
Delfedd 06-24-07, 02:41 PM	Hm. People just keep feeding Morintu. It's like "Hey, lets just throw some fuel on the fire. What? The leylines are STILL controlled by Morintu? Like they have been for the last thread and a half? Preposterous!" Perhaps you could come out of Morintu hyperlawful. Anywho, I think that Alusia has to stay around. I mean, the level of awesome that Alusia was pulling off, even when Morintu was the ruler of enfermia, is incredible.
Delfedd 06-24-07, 02:51 PM	I really don't want Lexius to die. I've grown to attached to him. Plus with out him who will take care of magic? Pfft. When was the last time you did anything for magic?
Illeveun Bloodblaze 06-24-07, 10:07 PM	Delfedd, Lexius is not dead, and also, way back when, Lexius broke Morintu's connection to the leylines. How would they still be part of his portfolio?
Destrieth 06-25-07, 06:04 AM	When in the world did that happen? I recall nothing of the sort.
Evil DM Mk3 06-25-07, 08:36 AM	He created wild magic, shattering the chains (chaos+law=bang) and this in turn lead to morintu claiming that he had been brutaly assaulted and this lead to the whole Riethal and the sun deal.
Illeveun Bloodblaze 06-25-07, 08:43 AM	Lexius believed that the matter of the leylines had to be resolved once and for all. Not one being will be allowed to transcend and wrest the power of his stewardship from it's free form, where all beings, or at least all mortals, will be allowed to gain access to its power. Lexius looked down in sadness about what he has to do, but he must do it. Lexius formed the power of pure chaos, and, before disconnecting himself from the leylines in the instants it takes for it to work, he sent wild magic coursing through the leylines, warping this Morintu's chains, destroying them, and cutting his link to the leylines forever. After this was over, Lexius reconnected himself to the leylines, caring for them once more. This is the exact text, and It was actuallly a big issue. If you want to find it yourself it's at the beginning of the second thread.
Anuvrix 06-25-07, 11:03 AM	Omfg. I haven't posted in a long while... Missed a ton.
Delfedd 06-25-07, 11:09 AM	Here's the thing. Even though it exploded, the leylines have still remained in my portfolio.
Illeveun Bloodblaze 06-25-07, 11:32 AM	How?
ewancummins 06-25-07, 11:40 AM	I notice that we've got skads of intelligent races, but not very many magical beasts. I've decided to start adding some. Arteheyn has created dragonnes. Is anybody else interested in making mantichores, griffins, etc? I imagine a lot of species declined in numbers during the Long Night[ things that went totally extinct on Earth still survive on Refuge, so reintroduction likely occurred when Aretheyn opened the portal after the sun returned].
ewancummins 06-25-07, 11:43 AM	Anuvrix, welcome back. You should have some AP saved up, I imagine. Enough to do some cool stuff, I am sure. What's going on with the psions?
Evil DM Mk3 06-25-07, 12:14 PM	They stayed there because the admin never removed them, recall this was around the time of the changeover from thread one to thread two. The letter of the rules is observed here, but I think the spirit has been violated.
Kirtanus_Albacron 06-25-07, 12:30 PM	I believe either riverrock forgot to change it, or skipped over it, or didn't agree with it. Either way, it looks like it is his call. But, from what Illeveun_Bloodblaze has done, he will most likely do something else to free the leylines.
Delfedd 06-25-07, 02:02 PM	Anywho. This has come up before. Knowledge of things that happen in the ley. You guys didn't jump on my back then. Also, I'd like to make a proposition. From now on that is. Deities who don't post once a week only get the AP for that week. This prevents people from going away, being ignored, and coming back as overdeities or whatever. Can this please be implemented?
Illeveun Bloodblaze 06-25-07, 05:43 PM	I for one, would be fine with that idea.
Return of the Flumph 06-25-07, 07:46 PM	I for one, would be fine with that idea. You're one to talk.
Delfedd 06-25-07, 07:57 PM	Well, it's good that he agrees with it. It makes things a lot easier.
ewancummins 06-25-07, 10:59 PM	I suggest any rules changes wait until next month[in game month] to take effect. That's only fair.
ewancummins 06-26-07, 01:47 AM	Destrieth, it's way past time the sisters settled this issue. Yes, I realize Britmara is much weaker. I'n not trying to blow up your fun, I'm trying to make the storyline advance in a cool direction. Hope you are with me on this one.
Destrieth 06-26-07, 10:03 AM	I'm a little concerned with the abruptness. I wasn't done playing out the recovery, you kinda interrupted my plans a bit. Seemed kinda jarring that it would go from "Wake up, don't die" to "I'M TAKING YOUR STUFF." No matter though. I guess I just hoped for a more nonviolent discussion since I thought Alusia might have a revelation. Guess not. :P But yeah, I had a bit to say about it in the thread; Alusia has a LOT of servants on her side that Britmara probably should have accounted for. EDIT: Also, it's not really fair to delay the implementation of a perfectly acceptable rule. It will simply drive them in all at once to make a flurry of action that may not have full consideration and thought behind them. I don't want to be overwhelmed by a bevy of unnecessary, just-to-blow-AP-since-I'm-going-to-lose-them-anyway actions; it's not fair to those of us who make time to keep up with the thread. EDIT the SECOND: Hope my post isn't too much of a bother. I'd finish saying something, decide it wasn't purple enough, finish it again, and find I had still more. I think it conveys her state of mind well enough. But now the question is: is she misguided yet sane, or completely raving mad? :P
d24478667 06-26-07, 10:50 AM	Umm.. how many turns have I been out? It does matter; I think it was one or two, but I have an idea of what I want to do, but I need to know my resources.
Destrieth 06-26-07, 10:53 AM	You were out just one as far as I know. Don't take my word as gospel though; I don't remember with 100% certainty. Fairly sure it was just one.
Delfedd 06-26-07, 10:54 AM	See? That's exactly the kind of problem waiting will cause.
Camu 06-26-07, 10:55 AM	I also think it's unfair, since if you can't save AP, how else can the low deity's with only 2AP ever evolve. I also like to hoard some AP (have 22AP at the moment) to do something cool later on that requires a lot of AP, but if that isn't allowed
Delfedd 06-26-07, 10:57 AM	No... see, you do get to save it. But not if you don't post. If you vanish for a divine year and come back with 100 AP... well, that's not exactly fair. You're good for now.
Camu 06-26-07, 10:59 AM	Ok, that sounds more reasonable
Destrieth 06-26-07, 10:59 AM	It's only designed to punish the people who don't post otherwise. I like to save APs too, but I try to keep OOC posts up and/or kick in some Non-Divine RP.
Delfedd 06-26-07, 11:01 AM	Dude... what if Azhuotl came back now? 10*5+4*5 he'd have 70 AP. He'd be able to remake the world. by the way. I had an idea. For shaping land, you shape one square per divine level (Lesser, intermediate, etc) per AP. so spending 2 Ap as a demigod would allow you to change 2 squares.
Destrieth 06-26-07, 11:03 AM	That idea is adding complexity where there needs to be none. I for one reject it. :P :thumbsdow
d24478667 06-26-07, 11:22 AM	See, I thought it was one also. Delfedd, mind if I go with that?
Evil DM Mk3 06-26-07, 11:55 AM	:thumbsup: for save only if you post :thumbsdow for the land molding thing.
Return of the Flumph 06-26-07, 01:37 PM	:thumbsup: for save only if you post :thumbsdow for the land molding thing. Agreed. We don't need rules for everything.
Delfedd 06-26-07, 02:03 PM	Fair enough. Although I did mean it more as a guideline, so we know what's acceptable and what's not.
riverrock 06-26-07, 07:48 PM	On the issue of portfolios: I have generally only changed portfolios when a player requested it, because it didn't seem like a major issue. I may have been wrong about this. I will go with whatever everyone thinks is best on this issue. On another subject, we really need a short summary of turns. The number one complaint I have gotten from people wishing to join is that they have no idea of what is going on, since so much has been posted. So I have created a summary. My first post in this thread is now a summary of events. I have already finished the first thread, and I hope to eventually summarize all of the second thread. (Although this will take some time, as there is a lot to go through.) If you have any questions, comments, or concerns about the summaries, feel free to say so. I will listen to everyone's opinion on this.
ewancummins 06-26-07, 08:18 PM	Britmara's actions make sense for her personality. She doesn't hate her sister, she just wants to stop the suffering of the souls imprisoned in Enfermia and halt the advance of Evil across the planes. Goody two shoes, and all. Sorry if launching the war in heaven too early screwed up your plans for the developemnt of the storyline. I still have a surprise up my sleeve in regards to Brit. ;)
Delfedd 06-27-07, 08:41 AM	Ooh... nice. My summary that I was trying to write was always way more complex.
d24478667 06-27-07, 12:35 PM	Umm... Delfedd, can I go aheaad and act with 2 turns of AP or not?
alchemyprime 06-27-07, 01:25 PM	Um. Hi... I was wondering, how would I go about creating a deity, and what domains are open? A (very) basic outline of my deity is below. Tanner The One Who Causes Ripples in The Pond, The Chrysallis Symbol: A butterfly Alignment: Chaotic Neutral (Leans to Good, but Allows Evil clerics) Domains: (I'll figure this out) Portfolio: Evolution of creatures Worshipers: Those who dispise undead and constructs, transmuters, egoists (very small numbers of all) Favored Weapon: Whip or Natural Weapons In short, he prefers life over undeath or constructs (the Leigon comes to mind.). He sees Transmutation as the best form of magic (I hope no one has the Alteration domain if it's allowed.). He likes to see adaptation of species, whether from his intervening hand or not. Many of his followers (once he gets them) sould be seen as philanderers, and yet also as very scholarly. Egoists also like to follow him. If one could tell me the domains available and what, if anything, is wrong with this deity, I'd be much obliged.
Evil DM Mk3 06-27-07, 02:17 PM	OK riverrock I have just realised that there are several things that you have not yet changed in Father Blights entry, either I forgot to ask or you didn't notice (allthough they where all in the main thread) here is a summary: Alignment is now CN Domains:-Vile Darkness +Healing +Luck (as of this turn)+Liberation. AP is 6 per turn. Also please do not get mad OOC about Father Blight. IC is fine but anyway.
Evil DM Mk3 06-27-07, 02:25 PM	Oh not LoC stuff I know, but vital to me, could you look at this is you have time please, thanks. (http://boards1.wizards.com/showthread.php?t=873762)
ewancummins 06-27-07, 07:52 PM	alchemyprime wrote- Many of his followers (once he gets them) sould be seen as philanderers, and yet also as very scholarly. Philanderers, really? That's weird. Tanner seems cool. I like the idea of an evolutionary god.
ewancummins 06-27-07, 09:28 PM	The island continent with the twin portals was sunk to the bottom of the ocean by Gylkllivar, IIRC. Mentioning that so we can update the maps.
ewancummins 06-27-07, 09:45 PM	I hate to bring this up, but I need to know: Is the Prime World/Earth of LoC flat or spherical[ or something else]? I vote for round, as the Plainsrunners sailed across the ocean to arrive in the green lizardfolk homeland. They couldn't have sailed west to get there, as the main continent and the great rift are in the way. If the world is round, why don't the map edges math up? Should we expand it a bit? Maybe add more ocean?
Destrieth 06-28-07, 12:21 AM	Yeeeeah. I dunno, Evil DM. It's one thing to take someone's things if they're gone and it's being unused. But taking Riverrock's original portfolio... mmm. Not sure I'm fond of that even OOC. It's pretty much an attention-garnering action and rude to boot. I'd like to hear everyone else's thoughts on this.
riverrock 06-28-07, 12:28 AM	The main thing is, the post is impossible by the rules I laid out for the dreamrealms, and contradicts alot of the established flavor I made for the realms. If you go and read my description of the dreamrealms, you'll note that Blight and his followers are barred from entering the dreamrealms under any circumstances. This has been in the description I posted for awhile. Furthermore, the eladrins were major participants in the war against Blight. Furthermore, the action would be create divine realm, not create concept, and since the liberation domain has already been created, it will be harder for a deity to get it the second time.
Evil DM Mk3 06-28-07, 02:09 AM	OK sod about being barred, I forgot. But on the other matters, it is not so much a place (prehaps that didn't come across) but a recuring meme, anyway the library was a concept when I created that because like this place the geography is second to the IDEA behind the place. It is not his original portfolio, I am not taking summer OR Dreams (THAT is his original portfolio) rather I am moving towards a different portfolio entierly. Also you are STILL barring Blight and his followers? Even though his true followers (rather than those who simply say they worship him) are currently a group of insane but well meaning healers? Sod I really liked that idea too, cos ATM Father Blight is just hanging around doing nothing and I myself am bored our of my skull. Does anyone have any sujestions as to how I can do this then?
Destrieth 06-28-07, 02:15 AM	Well, Riverrock expressed his desire to me that he doesn't want Blight anywhere near his stuff, so as far as I know Blight's plan is a veto. I don't know, man. Take a break?
Evil DM Mk3 06-28-07, 02:18 AM	Can I just check, Father Blight's followers have been denied dreaming all this time? Oh and although he seems to deny it in game, if you read the posts it was Blight who saved him just now... Take a break? As in leave the game? Yes that had ocured to me. EDIT:Actually now you mention it I have been toying with the idea for a while as this thread has lost a lot of what I was enjoying, I feel it jumped the shark a while ago, about it and my attempts to re-inject it have failed horribly so I have decided. Goodbye.
riverrock 06-28-07, 02:42 AM	For the general record, Blight was not responsible for the healing of Kyrinian. Kyrinian was healed by the joint efforts of Britmara, Glykllivar, and Morintu. There was no way Blight could have know about the incident, and he does not have the healing domain.
Evil DM Mk3 06-28-07, 02:44 AM	Hang on. YES HE DOES. How he discovered the event may be unclear but at the same time I threw a curve with an insane god, for all you know he could have been in the area. And I spent AP to gain teh healing domain, despite the fact that Father Blight's entry is massively incorrect even to this date.
riverrock 06-28-07, 02:48 AM	Creating a concept does not automatically net you a domain. I recently posted on this issue, in fact. This is the way it has functioned for a long time, and no one has complained. Furthermore, I have ruled multiple times that once a domain is first created, it is harder to get it a second time. In addition to this, since Blight was a god of pestilence, it would be even harder for him to get a domain like healing. The same goes to the other domains you rewarded yourself with. Either the domain already existed or you created a concept that had very little to do with the domain, so you didn't get the domain.
Evil DM Mk3 06-28-07, 02:52 AM	There is already a deity with healing out there? Where, I couldn't find them. Moot point anyways but since you seemingly dropped the idea of actions leading to domains creating concepts seems to be the only way to get them and creating a concept was placed in the rules specificaly to net domains. DOMAIN REASONING Healing = Created hospitilsation, the pestilance/healing thing is explained and makes an interesting wierdness I feel. Luck = Backley, an attempt to allow shadow magic (and tacking on a few curse bit and so on) into the game. Luck does not ave to be good luck. Liberation = An attempt to re-ignite my own intrest. Failed. EDIT:Found Pholtone as a healing diety. To be honest that is wierder than Father Blight.
riverrock 06-28-07, 02:58 AM	Pholtone had healing. While creating concepts is mentioned as being tied to domains, it isn't explicitly so. List of Deities who recently gained domains without creating a concept: Glykllivar (Protection) Arteheyn (Spider) Amon (Dwarf) Blight (Madness) Alusia (Evil, Fire, Law) Frostbite (Cold) Morintu (Earth) And those are the ones that just immediately spring to mind. I have said repeatedly that if a person feels they have done something to warrant a domain, they should tell me. Currently, I am thinking about giving SAGE artifice, Britmara war, Glykllivar healing, and Arteheyn transformation. I just haven't been able to do it immediately. If you had an issue with this, I would have liked you to pm me. But its a moot point, because that is the established precedent, and you are quitting anyway.
Evil DM Mk3 06-28-07, 03:02 AM	Creating a race is not gaining spontaniously. Also I clearly have missunderstood they system and have made requests that did not fit, so why did YOU not PM ME. Domains etc are YOUR job.
riverrock 06-28-07, 03:04 AM	Honestly, I have been ignoring your posts because I did not want to have another confrontation.
Evil DM Mk3 06-28-07, 03:06 AM	Well we are certainly not going to have that because as a Direct upshot of it I am leaving. Well done you have sucseeded beyond your wildest dreams [/ironic sarcasm] I didn't realise that you where so worried about those disagreements, I realise they get heated but both where resolved with limited problems.
Destrieth 06-28-07, 03:11 AM	Alright alright, everyone calm down here. I see both sides, but I have to side with Riverrock on this one. It's not his job to police your actions; your concerns should be PMed to him when and if you have them.
riverrock 06-28-07, 03:13 AM	I thought you were leaving because you believed the thread had jumped the shark. Other people have been denied domains, and they have understood why. It was never my intention to make you leave by not giving you the domains you wanted. Yes, the arguments upset me pretty deeply. I didn't come to this thread with the intention of making enemies. In fact, I had hoped to be your friend. However, after the last argument I lead myself to believe that by ignoring your posts I would be able to avoid disputes with you. That was a mistake on my part. For that, I am truly sorry and I apologize. It has never been my intention to cause anyone to want to leave. I thought that what I did would in fact prevent that, because arguments with me served a source of tension for you.
Evil DM Mk3 06-28-07, 03:19 AM	Thing is I am trying to re-instill some sense of use into Father Blight (cos ATM he is the EX-god of stuff, he has very little he is meant to be doing. He is on the path of redemption but the path to haven is paved with good deeds (as opposed to intentions, hey I like that...)). The domains where part of my attempt to un-jump this shark. Either by setting him up as healer or as was my main hope, a child warden. The King of All Tribes is a flop because unless someone interacts with me I can do nothing, despite making it clear that he could directly interat with gods no one has done so. As for enemies, NEVER. I lost my temper once I admit and we ahve both missunderstood one another but I consider you a friend and intelectual peer. And what is the point of having intelectual peers if you can't swap the contence and reasoning of the grey matter? Being told I have been ignored has hurt me deeply as it implies I am not important enough to bother with. I know that is not what you meant by it but there we are.
Evil DM Mk3 06-28-07, 03:21 AM	Oh and for the record I have PMed riverrock about the domains. No replies.
riverrock 06-28-07, 03:32 AM	Yes, and it was a mistake on my part. For that I am truly sorry. I had hoped that it would allow me to avoid having to have arguments with you. I was sorely mistaken, and my ignoring you has obviously had unintended consequences. On the issue of your deities: that is unfortunate. I know how you feel. There was a time when I felt like I was completely insignificant playing Kyrinian. So I absolutely understand where you are coming from. Here is my recommendation. If you like it, we can do it immediately. I am in charge of new deities, so I can make an exception. First of all, I would retire Blight. He served his purpose. He had a major impact on the world. Of my own creations, he caused the fey to completely restructure themselves, the werewolves of Venerloren to emerge from isolation, and the dream creatures to finally act. And he's effected others as well. But he's served his purpose, and the redemption would seem pointless. Instead, I think you should get a new deity. Here is what I am thinking. When Kur-ah died, you opted not to have a new deity emerge from his divine essence, because you wanted to play Blight and the King of All Tribes. So what I say you do is have a deity finally emerge from Kur-ah's essence. Off the cuff, I would say a high-intermediate, and probably Fate, Destiny, or Metal as domains. I'm thinking along the lines of a deity of reconciliation and foresight, but obviously you could go with whatever you wanted. For the King of All Tribes, I can't do anything specifically in my functions as an admin, but I have a few things I can do as a player. I was planning on having the fey form new courts, and I can have them interact with the king. As for the pms...I never recieved them. Even had I recieved them, I probably would have ignored them, as at the time I was ignoring evil dm. Like I said, a mistake.
Evil DM Mk3 06-28-07, 03:35 AM	OK well I am off to work. I kinda like the idea of the garden though, if you could see your way clear (a sort of place for him to go TO, to heal his soul in the company of children's dreams, that kind of thing, good mythic if nothing else. I like the idea of Evil tring to become better, even if it is not ultimately possible.) it would tie it up nicely. I will think about that the diety should do, although I may be able to resurect the idea I had when I first saw this thread. Also you are aware that, as Gwynedd is part divine, Kyrinian could talk to her, although to outsiders she would look like she was talking to herself.
ewancummins 06-28-07, 07:42 AM	I hope everyone now playing stays in the game. I'll try and engage other deities more, especially using Arteheyn[Britmara is holed up in Haven, awaiting a possible seige]. You guys all have cool gods in play.
Evil DM Mk3 06-28-07, 12:32 PM	OK then assuming the offer is still open riverrock here is the base idea: Thexis Master of fate, Lord of the Stage, Lexicon [DR:13 (you said high intermediate)] Truenamer 20, Bereft 5, Acolite of the Ego 10 OK, so I love the concept of Truespeach. And it works, either drop the DCs if the players can't optimise their PC or leave it as is if they can. Requesting it be known that a unique salient divine ability (to let him know all utterances from all three Lexicons, a lot like Arcane mastery) is in use. Yes I realise that this would get silly normally so I want to make it clear, Truespeach is not part of his portfolio skill ability, (think about that for a second an you will see why) and I can get him high enough to speak his own name thanks. And most other gods too;) .[AP:4] Symbol: A lower case Eta. Home: The Wordway (will make it on turn one of using him) Alignment: Lawful Neutral Domains: Fate, Rune Portfolio: Writing, Fate, Theater, Books, History. Worshipers: Librarians, Thespians, Authors, Oracles, Legislators Favored Weapon: Penknife (dagger) Avatar: A man in robes with a short beard, made up of books, scrolls, paper and other things that you write on/in. OK. Kur-ah lived in his library. Kur-ah lived for his library. He died in his library. his library fell outside of reality. We have done quite a bit with "outside reality", what with the Seven horsemen and Ooulzoth's shard worlds. But the library has not turned up again. Until now. Thexis is born partially of Kur-ah, and partially of his books and only now (thanks to the warped time of The Beyond (is that a good name for outside reality?)) has he returned to complete the library's work.
d24478667 06-28-07, 01:29 PM	I have a suggestion for his wisp; an open book, and the messages write themselves on the pages. This way he can even write notes on it.
riverrock 06-28-07, 06:14 PM	Looks fine. Once you finish off Blight you can began posting as that deity. If you really want to go with the garden theme, I suggest you go to Arteheyn's domain, as Blight is barred from the Dreamrealms and it would be unlikely for Kyrinian to let him in.
riverrock 06-28-07, 06:15 PM	On a different topic, I have added a clarification about domains to the beginning of this thread. I suggest everyone read it, I think it will make things much easier.
d24478667 06-29-07, 06:26 PM	Delfedd, are you ignoring my posts? Frostbite has sent a wisp to both the Seven and Morintu. Also, last turn, I asked if I could act with two turns AP. (Last turn's and the turn before's) and there was no response.
Delfedd 06-29-07, 06:28 PM	Ah. I was confused as to which of the seven. I think I said yes... I might have lost it.
d24478667 06-29-07, 07:25 PM	More likely it was a fault of mine, that I didn't notice it. EDIT: Who are they attacking? It is unclear to me. And the bow isn't an artifact; Glacieso's Eye is an artifact. The bow Micheal was given isn't nearly as powerful. Its maybe a +5 Frost Burst bow.
Delfedd 06-29-07, 10:44 PM	They aren't attacking... yet. I'm just putting it down. Ah. I see. I'll take the artifact thing off.
d24478667 06-29-07, 11:56 PM	But who would they be attacking; who is 'the encroacher'?
Delfedd 06-30-07, 01:50 PM	They think that because of michael's actions, their is going to be an attack.
d24478667 06-30-07, 02:12 PM	Oh. So, basically, he has a weapon that is useless to a god, and he wants it? Frostbite would shave a lawyer point out that the bow was a gift to Micheal, Neutral Cleric, not Micheal, Lawful Evil God Fragment/Artifact Lord. But lawyers are LE so I guess he'll just ask Morintu for a favor. EDIT:Also, is the way I made one artifact in two pieces okay, Delfedd?
Delfedd 06-30-07, 05:09 PM	It's a ranged weapon. Sure. You'll only get +2 for it. Also, Morintu's probably having a personal talk with Alusia. Wisps probably won't be appreciated.
d24478667 06-30-07, 05:13 PM	So have him dismiss it, or tell it not to record, or any such thing. Simple, really. EDIT: True. EDIT 2: Britmara only gets the +2, you mean. EDIT 3: Sorry, the wisps were saying Haven, not Enfermia; I was tired when I made that post.
Anuvrix 07-01-07, 06:44 PM	Holy Wow. I thought i would have a ton of time now that summer has come around... I haven't had a chance to even get on the comp. for a week or so.
Delfedd 07-01-07, 08:40 PM	http://img101.imageshack.us/img101/7194/locsp7.th.jpg (http://img101.imageshack.us/my.php?image=locsp7.jpg) Guess what I have here at camp? Paint. Guess what it can't do because it's dumb? Put words on.
Delfedd 07-02-07, 02:48 PM	Also, check out my new thread. NPCs and historical figures.
Evil DM Mk3 07-03-07, 12:51 PM	Guys, bad news. I am at a mates house using his internet. My ISP now hates these forums and I cant get on anywhere else. So DAMN but I have to leave (as my mate is off to America (in his words "the one place he looks thin") for the rest of the summer.) the thread after all. I shall miss it.
d24478667 07-03-07, 01:54 PM	Well, if it is just the forums, you could just email people your actions.
Delfedd 07-03-07, 09:25 PM	I don't think he can read the thread. Who wants to call the new month?
Delfedd 07-05-07, 11:20 AM	Alright, since no one responded, I'm going to take it. I'm on break now, so I just put it up.
Destrieth 07-05-07, 02:08 PM	Well, this should shake things up like a snowglobe.
Delfedd 07-05-07, 02:30 PM	Yup. For the record, here's how I got the idea for the plagues. This should be fun. http://youtube.com/watch?v=zWrikCtC060 So yeah. You'll be getting hit with a plague or two a day. just so you won't forget.
d24478667 07-05-07, 03:21 PM	You're forgetting the races in private planes; such as the Artic Rose, they can't be effected because Frostbite's realm of TyDyw is practically an impregnable fortress.
Camu 07-05-07, 03:23 PM	as are the demodands on the nameless plane and the aberration races on the living plane & shard worlds
Destrieth 07-05-07, 03:24 PM	I don't think Morintu cares about the private planes, guys. Remember, the material is really the only place that matters.
Camu 07-05-07, 04:43 PM	gotcha ;) but just making sure :)
Delfedd 07-05-07, 05:28 PM	Actually, it's any place accessable to Morintu. So certain places in the dreamrealm will be filled with lakes of blood (and not the normal lakes of blood), because I can enter it. I don't recall TywDyw being a private fortress, because if it was, no god would be able to enter or leave. And you guys clearly do that. Only places barricaded to the level that Enfermia was will be unaffected. And the other planes are very important. How can my plan of Multiplanar domination come to pass if I can only dominate one plane? Doesn't make much sense. Oh, Haven will be interesting for a while.
Camu 07-05-07, 05:55 PM	I find it kinda cheap that you can affect an entire multiverse with just 2 Ap Why then I could just use 1 mold land to turn the entire material plane into a plane consisting of small cubes with dimentions of 1m
ewancummins 07-05-07, 06:03 PM	Alusia is out of play, yes?
Destrieth 07-05-07, 06:05 PM	Out of play? Of course not! Just because she has forsaken all earthly concerns and mortal desires doesn't mean she's not going to kill everyone she hates. Er. I mean, interact with her divine friends. I mean, Absaul-Rote participated until Agent Graves had to bow out.
riverrock 07-05-07, 06:17 PM	For the record, the dreamrealms is accessible by: 1. The minds of dreamers 2. Gods Kyrinian has let in 3. A single portal in a dragon's horde that Kyrinian had made himself Kyrinian has shunt deities out of the dreamrealms before, and no one has complained. He can certainly do it again. Furthermore, the plagues would deteriorate into abstractions under the influence of the succubi anyway. And while 2 ap could effect the whole material plane, I think affecting every single plane is probably too much.
ewancummins 07-05-07, 06:27 PM	I think Agent Graves playing Absaul Rote was different. He was playing a very distant overgod- which I doubt Alusia would be. I think this will be interesting. I don't recall if anyone ever defined what happens if a PC/deity becomes an overgod. Is it even possible? Removing the god from play makes more sense to me. There is already a Supereme Deity. Absaul Rote isn't dead-he's just absent , or silently observing things from afar. I dsilike the very idea of an interventionist overgod. One player being in charge of everyone else's gods seems lame. Otherwise we just get someone else who's playing a greater god to burn some AP and become another overgod. Then he cancels out everything Alusia is trying to do. Where would it stop? It would get silly. Just my opinion, of course. ;) :)
Delfedd 07-05-07, 06:28 PM	But then there can be a refuge from my power... *whine* :P Ok, I'm fine with that. As for the overgod thing, how it works is you lose all your worshipers and essentially all your mortal fanbase. However, you remain a powerful god as an overgod. I think that overgods will get +2 for their EDR in combat. Because they're overgods. Also, if everyone wants to become an overgod, I'm perfectly fine with that. Just leave me with all the mortals and I'll be fine. I think that Alusia now has the (in character) power to approve or deny gods.
Destrieth 07-05-07, 06:29 PM	Well, tbh, I was planning on making some alignment shifts and sort of playing a second coming of the creator. Morintu is the one mucking about in the mortal world. From here on I'm probably just going to make flavorful posts describing how Alusia does or does not direct Morintu. Besides, you don't tell me how to play my character! *sassy fingersnaps* But joking aside, you gotta trust me as a player that I'm not going to stuff myself into everyone's business like Kur-ah was such a fan of doing. I really just wanted to establish Alusia as a deity who worked herself up from the dregs of power and became one of, if not the, overwatcher in Rote's place.
ewancummins 07-05-07, 06:30 PM	That being said, I think Alusia's ascension was 100% HEAVY METAL FURY! Very cool, and most unexpected.
Destrieth 07-05-07, 07:21 PM	Eheh, not to diminish your action Camu but the Behemoth/Tarrasque has been the Great Devourer since he was made way back before you joined. Mebbe you could change the name for me? :P
Camu 07-05-07, 07:21 PM	oh sorry, no problem, how's Endless Hunger sound
Destrieth 07-05-07, 07:26 PM	Hey, that's actually better fitting for an ooze. I <3 it.
ewancummins 07-05-07, 08:01 PM	Riverrock, can we update Arteheyn's list of creations? It ought to be as follows; Species Created: Tritons, Coautls, Tendriculos, Assassin Vines, Animals and Plants, Oceanic Creatures, Dragons, Desert Plants, Sauguaro Sentinels, myconids, Chevalls, Animal Lords, Spiders, mortai, dire animals, giant bugs[ants, bees, etc.], ankhegs, basilisks, dragonnes, shocker lizards, fungoid guardian species[violet fungi, phantom fungi, basidironds, ascomoids], minor deaths, ettercaps, actaeons, talking beasts Thank you. :)
Delfedd 07-05-07, 08:06 PM	So what's that tarrasque doing these days, by the way?
d24478667 07-05-07, 08:06 PM	I don't recall TywDyw being a private fortress, because if it was, no god would be able to enter or leave. And you guys clearly do that. Only places barricaded to the level that Enfermia was will be unaffected. I was referring to the part where only things I let in can come in to my part and things I change my mind about get shifted out.
Delfedd 07-05-07, 08:34 PM	Oh, and just so you know, Morintu isn't back. He never left.
riverrock 07-06-07, 04:02 PM	You see, there are a couple of things wrong with what is going on: 1. Effecting the outer planes-While travel to most of these planes has been fairly easy, it has been so for gods, outsiders, and souls. Not just anybody can walk into a plane, unless there is a portal, and most of the portals are guarded. Furthermore, the outer planes are divinely morphic by the deities that control them. Morintu can't turn rivers in Paradise to blood, or cause snakes in Lahach to go crazy, unless he does something special. So the outer planes are safe as it stands. 2. Countering-The snakes and the rivers of blood have been countered. Glykllivar cleaned them up, and the naiads are now ensuring that the fresh water remains pure, and SAGE provided different races with protections. That's ignoring the elephant in the room-Arteheyn. She is the goddess of Water and Animals after all. It would be a small matter for her to fix that, and to prevent it from happening again. When we counter something you do, you need to be able to accept it. 3. The Cost- When you first mentioned the plagues (which was a long time ago), evil dm was the only one to respond on cost. No one else did, and we all probably assumed that you had dropped the issue. Essentially, what you are trying to do is a massive guide populus (worship Morintu) as well as lot of other actions that aren't explicitly listed in the rules. It would have to cost a lot more than 2 ap. Possibly at a reduced cost because of the plague machine, but not 2 ap and you can unleash unlimited plagues. So, in conclusion: 1. The outer planes are safe 2. We can counter what you do 3. It's going to cost more than 2 ap I don't think any of this is that unreasonable. You can still do what you want to do, and peace is maintained among the players.
Camu 07-06-07, 05:03 PM	I totally agree with riverrock, he sums it up nicely what i also was thinking
Destrieth 07-06-07, 05:39 PM	2 AP per plague sounds right. Or maybe 1 due to the fact he spent 3 to Create Artifact. How does that sound?
Return of the Flumph 07-06-07, 05:53 PM	2 AP per plague sounds right. Or maybe 1 due to the fact he spent 3 to Create Artifact. How does that sound? Sure. That sounds good. Snce he wants the plague engne to be constantly managing the plagues, he should just add the cost for all of them to the engine in advance.
Delfedd 07-06-07, 06:26 PM	Oh yeah. 1) I changed my stance on the planes. 2) OK. 3) As for the cost... nuts. I can shuffle things around, make a few cuts, but the 13 plagues of Morintu sounds a lot more dramatic. I guess the Artifact lords can chip in, put their divine energy into the machine... Fair enough. This is supposed to be a big undertaking. Also 4) frostbite's action sounds a lot more like a guide populus than a nothing. Wouldn't the use of a far realms entity be an evil act?
Return of the Flumph 07-06-07, 08:40 PM	Okay, that was BLATANT GODMODDING. You cannot destroy a major plane guarded by two gods, and everything in it, without even spending AP. It didn't happen.
ewancummins 07-07-07, 12:50 AM	Just wondering..... Will Morintu be killed outright in this fight? Seems rather likely-assuming Delfedd consents to this outcome. Will the Artifact Lords wisely accept SAGE's offer to take over Enfermia? That would mean turning on Morintu. Why not? Evil is not a club.
Camu 07-07-07, 02:59 AM	I thought morintu and the artifact lords where on the material plane with that plague engine? Or isn't the plague engine located on the material plane? With the assumption that Morintu & Artifact lords where not home, I thought it was a nice sneak attack. I didn't spend AP because the rules don't mention anything about it, butI can spend up to 19 AP on that to make that event work. For once I thought i could do some mayor cataclysmic event, truely fitting for my god. I PM'ed ewancummins about my idea. No complains there. But I guess no such great events are allowed for a god like Ooulzoth. But fine, Suppose Endless Hunger is still busy devouring Enfermia, and I spend X AP to make it work, so how much should i spend. You need to spend 3AP to create one, so how about 4, it's a little more expencive. We could also make it 5 or 6
Return of the Flumph 07-07-07, 03:24 AM	Camu, you cannot whine about imaginary discrimination every time we tell you you can't do something. To date, no one has ever destroyed a plane. Glykllivar was able to damage (an undefended) one once, but that was easily reperable damage and it costed AP. Enfermia had two gods in it, you wanted to UTTERLY destroy it, and you spent no AP. It ain't flying. On an unrelated note, would any of the gods even know Morintu has a phylactery? I don't think he would have told anyone.
Camu 07-07-07, 03:28 AM	Yes, I'm thankfull he didn't ignore it, but still I'm willing to spend AP to make the attempt legal. As in, I spend X AP to try and destroy a plane. Because it hasn't happened before doesn't mean it never could.
Return of the Flumph 07-07-07, 03:32 AM	True, it could happen, but just because there are no rules for it yet does not mean you can do whatever you want with it. The only precedent that does exist is that it costs AP to damage a plane. An unguarded plane. Destroying one should cost more, and you would have to defeat its guardians first.
Camu 07-07-07, 03:47 AM	Ok, I agree with that, but how much AP was it then to attack a plane, since that is how this event has turned out to be in the end. And I apologise for the whining
Return of the Flumph 07-07-07, 03:59 AM	No need to apologize; just understand that we aren't out to get you. You'll have to ask Riverrock and Delfedd how much destroying a plane costs. Causing moderate damage costed me 1 AP. However, I'm not sure if you can pull it off with the plane's creator at home (I understand that you thought Morintu was away at the time. An easy mistake to make).
Camu 07-07-07, 04:01 AM	Ok, I'll ask them At the moment i will continue with the events, and placed a -X on my AP pool, with X the AP i still need to pay for the attack on enfermia
Return of the Flumph 07-07-07, 04:02 AM	Sounds perfectly reasonable.
Delfedd 07-07-07, 11:06 AM	So yeah. Dead. Also, thanks for remembering the philactery. ;) and no... i don't think anyone would know. Enfermia likes being locked.
alchemyprime 07-07-07, 11:15 AM	Just posting so people remember I exist. This is going to be crazy for me to watch. Tanner won't fight at all unless asked to by a deity he would not mind helping. To name a few, Kyrinian, Frostbite, and, oddly enough, SAGE. But please wait till next time we get AP, please. Being new, I used up all mine on an avatar.
Delfedd 07-07-07, 01:57 PM	Dude, how could we forget you? You're pretty kickass. Anyway, the fightings done.
alchemyprime 07-07-07, 03:21 PM	Thanks for that Delfedd. I posted what Tanner thinks of the plagues. Also, really being impatient for those new APs... though technically my god was up the day before the APs got boosted up, I just didn't post until the day was anounced... do we go by when I first posted as Tanner, or by when Rirverock posted me up? If the second is true, I'm making a race (2AP if I am not mistaken...) What is the ruling there?
Camu 07-07-07, 06:41 PM	A questions: How much AP should i have spend to do the damage Endless Hunger did to Enfermia.
riverrock 07-07-07, 08:46 PM	I'm of the opinion that if Enfermia is locked, then the plague machine can't effect the Material Plane. I don't think this is an unreasonable interpretation. Regardless, at this point the plagues have all been countered. The precedent is that closing your plane limits your interaction with the Material Plane. Alusia was limited when she closed Enfermia, and no one was able to dream when the dreamrealms were closed off.
ewancummins 07-07-07, 08:49 PM	Morintu was a worthy foe. Really evil. Most cool. Just reflecting on his awesomeness.
Illeveun Bloodblaze 07-07-07, 09:19 PM	Yeah, he was. Just now, we need evil gods to take the place of Morintu, because seriously, it's going to need a few to be as badass as Morintu.
Return of the Flumph 07-07-07, 10:36 PM	Cookie cups and sugar trips.
Delfedd 07-07-07, 11:29 PM	Shhh. don't tell them that. I want it to be a surprise for people who don't read. Oooh! adventure idea! Cultists find the plague engine and reactivate it. *shudder* You guys really don't want the rest of the plagues to happen by the way.
ewancummins 07-08-07, 12:08 AM	I wouldn't assume Morintu's evil was over just yet. I'm sure he had a contingency plan of some sort. The Artifact Lords are weaker than he was, but they have the potential to replace him.
ewancummins 07-08-07, 11:48 AM	Does anyone feel uninvolved or ignored? If so, PM me. I am more than willing to alter my plans to interact with other gods more often. Both Arteheyn and Britmara have projects and plans that need partners.
d24478667 07-08-07, 07:24 PM	I feel a little ignored but, then again, I have been out for a while. So I am good, thanks.
ewancummins 07-08-07, 09:07 PM	Does anyone object to Arteheyn creating more sentient races? Or do you guys feel like we have too many as is?
Return of the Flumph 07-08-07, 09:43 PM	I would wait until that new landmass you were talking about is finished. The new races will need more territory.
Delfedd 07-08-07, 09:52 PM	Just as a reminder, Amon is dead. Arteheyn killed him (technically). Just an FYI.
Return of the Flumph 07-08-07, 10:08 PM	Alright, in what way did Glykllivar cause the plague of serpents to return? She sent the device BEYOND THE KNOWN UNIVERSE. How could it possibly be activating on its own and working from that distance?
riverrock 07-08-07, 10:11 PM	I agree. The serpents had already been countered twice anyway. For them to reactivate, Morintu or the devil lords would have to spend ap. As I recall, the plague machine allowed you to make the plague at a discounted rate, not allow them to continue forever and ever at no cost to you.
Illeveun Bloodblaze 07-09-07, 01:31 AM	Actually, I would be fine with more sentient races. In fact, next turn, Lexius was going to create the gnomes.
alchemyprime 07-09-07, 01:49 AM	OMG... we were gnome-less? But I love gnomes... Ooh, if you want the svirfneblin to evolve, let me know! Evolution is kind of Tanner's thing, you know.
Delfedd 07-09-07, 02:08 PM	She then took the disc that had unleashed the horde of snakes upon the world I could have sworn it said "the disk and"
Destrieth 07-09-07, 02:09 PM	I could have sworn it said "the disk and" Nope, said that.
Delfedd 07-09-07, 02:20 PM	Whoa... wha? Don't get it. Anyway.
Destrieth 07-09-07, 03:44 PM	As in.. it said 'that', not 'and'.
Destrieth 07-10-07, 01:38 AM	Alright, I was about to do a profile update request to Riverrock and I ran across a conundrum. Namely that there are some domains that I am considering forming into a new deity. Now, one of these domains happens to be Wrath, the original domain Alusia was based around at the time. My question is, would anyone object to me passing on this domain with one other (most likely evil) into a new deity due to lack of use? I don't think Wrath fits with her anymore, though I know the rules say primary domains can't be passed on... but I see no other reason. So, I submit to you guys. Either way, update request: Alusia The Golden Lady, Watcher of Creation [DR:21] Supreme deity, Warblade 30 [AP:10] Symbol: A broken sword Home: Gorgild Alignment: Lawful Neutral Domain: Wrath, Retribution, Fire, Creation Portfolio: - Worshippers: None Favored weapon: The Quill of Creation (Longsword) Avatar: The avatar of Alusia is a white-skinned humanoid female clad in golden flowing garments. Golden light pours from eyes like pools of mercury and golden steam wafts from her nose and mouth. Creatures Created: MM Angels, Werelions, Hobgoblins, Vengeance Fey, Fire Elementals
Camu 07-10-07, 04:34 AM	A jackal éh, I like that :)
Delfedd 07-10-07, 09:34 AM	I've got a question. Where's all the cool environments? I know this is a little late, but we need cool stuff going on. The coolest thing that I can see was Kur-ah's mountain, before it got blown up. We need whirlpools, some cool desert thing... So I suggest that each one of us think of something cool to happen. Also, we should start working on the names. Ezra city is kind of a horrible name.
d24478667 07-10-07, 03:21 PM	Hey Delfedd, how come the new gods get invited to Enfermia, but the god who showed interest in joining both gets no no such offer?
Delfedd 07-10-07, 03:23 PM	Like... way back when? Because. Also, Haven't you like... tried to kill me? And also... isn't your trying to get invited into enfermia a transparent plot?
d24478667 07-10-07, 04:34 PM	No, Frostbite never attacked you. And no, Frostbite isn't going to rain destruction or anything upon Enfermia. He honestly wanted to join.
Delfedd 07-10-07, 04:51 PM	Huh. Very well. If you don't phrase it like it sounds like a trick ("I want to see my father-in-law's body") then sure I'll let you join. unfortunately it's locked.
d24478667 07-10-07, 05:09 PM	Just remember not everyone is LE, even if your gods are.
Delfedd 07-10-07, 05:15 PM	Yup. Doesn't mean I wouldn't like it. :D Seriously, next time if you want something to happen, say what you mean. Subtlety isn't very awesome with me.
Camu 07-11-07, 11:39 AM	Ok, edited the one of my posts during the attack on enfermia. For my attack with Endless Hunger. So I changed it so that i invested 2AP for that action. I think 2 AP is enough since in the end only a part of the plane was damaged
Delfedd 07-11-07, 02:10 PM	No. You essentially destroyed three different planes. That's not fair. At all.
Camu 07-11-07, 02:41 PM	three? only a part of enfermia? so how are it three?
Delfedd 07-11-07, 02:48 PM	How is it three. Because Enfermia had three seperate layers. Ooh. Here's an Idea. Those layers (Lux and whatnot) can continue on inside the endless hunger. Some lingering protection.
Camu 07-11-07, 02:52 PM	that depends how the damage is applied, if all three layers are above each other, you can destroy a part of each from one side, but all three would still have a piece left.
Delfedd 07-11-07, 02:56 PM	Well apparently the pieces broke off. So I think to save AP for you it'd be best to have them live on for 2 AP
Camu 07-11-07, 03:13 PM	what was on those eaten parts anyway?
Delfedd 07-11-07, 03:17 PM	The plane of fire, Alusia's domain and Kakavindus's domain.
Camu 07-11-07, 03:21 PM	with domains do you mean seperate planes or different layers of one and the same plane Glykllivar once attacked and severly damaged the nameless plane, only for one AP. The reason i don't use the demodands yet is because they are still rebuilding the damage. So I don't see why 2 AP isn't enough to let endless hunger cause damage to enfermia. The chunks eaten will be destroyed. The inhabitants of those chunks will be transformed into voidlings. Since enfermia as a whole wasn't destroyed, the damage won't be permanent. And since a god can alter his plane without even spending AP, it won't even cost you to repair the damage. So with this in mind, i think 2 AP is enough for what i did. (besides i asked how much i should have spended 3 days ago and nobody replied)
Delfedd 07-11-07, 07:43 PM	Because both of my gods where on Enfermia and active. The reason is mostly the principle. There's surely things on each plane which, while having no in game effect, could greatly affect the game world. These things would not be able to be gained by remaking the layers. Also, check out my crude map in the cosmology.
riverrock 07-11-07, 09:58 PM	Looks pretty good. On the subject of cosmology, I sort of had an idea. What if each plane related to a different celestial body? The dreamrealms and the plane of lights are already tied to moons. Each plane could manifest as some sort of heavenly body-a comet, a constellation, or a planet. On another topic, would anybody be able to write the summary? I started it, but its turning out to be a lot of work, and I'm already handling domains and new deities.
Delfedd 07-11-07, 10:54 PM	I'll do the sixth month... or try.
ewancummins 07-12-07, 12:28 AM	Time for me to sleep. Off to bed.
d24478667 07-12-07, 07:34 AM	Just pointing out that right after the marriage, my comp crashed, and I only saw Glykllivar once after. Not that I object to Glykllivar and Kyrnian getting together; I think its great roleplay.
Return of the Flumph 07-12-07, 02:29 PM	Right, but even when you did become active again you didn't do anything with Gly. Not to mention you kind of embarassed her into marrying Frostbite in the first place.
d24478667 07-12-07, 03:09 PM	Yeah, I would say that I kept thinking about how to do it and never found a good way, but its kinda weak, even if it is true. And I didn't know about embarrassing Gly into marrying Frostbite; it was completely unintentional.
ewancummins 07-12-07, 07:00 PM	Glylk is CN, yes? She's bound to be a bit unpredictable, just like the ocean itself. As for embarassment, think about how poor Arteheyn must feel. Daughter has run off with Kyrinian, son-in-law ran off to walk the earth like that dude from Kung Fu, and her ex husband [whom she helped to kill] just showed back up at her doorstep. Tell me that isn't pretty awkward. ;)
Delfedd 07-12-07, 07:20 PM	Actually, she did the dirty deed.
ewancummins 07-12-07, 07:30 PM	She's a compliacted woman, er.. goddess.
Return of the Flumph 07-12-07, 09:14 PM	Just so you know; Blight was made from Amon's concentrated evil (not Ooulzoth, and definetely not Camu) and Latrodectus is female. Also, lol at Artheyan for believing Morintu's story.
d24478667 07-12-07, 09:40 PM	Oh yeah, Alchemyprime, is there any reason you use 42 a lot? The only one I can think of is it being the answer of life, the universe, and everything according to The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy I'm also curious why Frostbite's room is entitled the Gambler's Room.
ewancummins 07-12-07, 10:47 PM	double post
ewancummins 07-12-07, 10:47 PM	Arteheyn , well...... ;) Anyhoo, I like how the thread has grown. This is really inspiring me to devote more time to worldbuilding. Next D&D campaign I run will either be in the LoC universe, or a homebrew of my own[ working on one now, on the side].
alchemyprime 07-12-07, 11:42 PM	Oh yeah, Alchemyprime, is there any reason you use 42 a lot? The only one I can think of is it being the answer of life, the universe, and everything according to The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy I'm also curious why Frostbite's room is entitled the Gambler's Room. Did I write Gambler's? I swore I wrote winter... Oh well, I fixed it. And, though my reasons is that 42 does explain everything, tanner's is that he was 42 when he cast the Perfect Spell that eventually made him a god. Yes. 42 does explain EVERYTHING. Adams didn't know how right he was.
d24478667 07-13-07, 12:05 AM	Ah. I must not have noticed Tanner's. Well, I feel a bit better about being a bookwyrm now that I finally notice stuff.
alchemyprime 07-13-07, 12:18 AM	I never wrote it up on that. It was just me creating a logical excuse to use my favorite number. It is the number of chaos, and the key to chaos. Tanner just does not know the lock, the answer. Every key is useless without a lock. And, I Beleive you all (or at least d24478667 does) know what happens once someone knows the answer and the question.
d24478667 07-15-07, 01:03 PM	Oh, and can you explain how 42 explains everything? Riverrock, after the Wanderer is exposed to be Frostbite, would it make sense for him to gain the travel domain, seeing as he'll have been traveling over the material?
riverrock 07-15-07, 03:24 PM	Sure. The wanderer is Frostbite, right? Then he could probably get the domain. On an unrelated topic: I may have been a little unclear on what happened with the Storm Giants. They aren't a major threat anymore. There are only a few of them left, and they are stuck in between life and death, etc, etc, etc. Not a reason for all out war. I sort of intended for them to just haunt parts of the swamp, functioning like evil loa spirits, providing dark magic to evil shamans and such. They aren't slaughtering the lizard folk left and right any more. But they are certainly scaring them and may be corrupting them. On a further unrelated topic: The evil deity I am currently playing is lesser. I would like to request that I get upgraded to greater. My reasoning in this is simple: We currently have no true evil deities, and its very difficult for an evil deity to effectively do evil when it has such limited resources. I don't think this is unreasonable since most of my actions with this deity will be indirect. It also helps with the proxy/false gods that I am setting up (which also serve to diversify evil for our campaign.) Would anyone object to this?
ewancummins 07-15-07, 03:36 PM	Storm giants are no longer a major threat? Hmmm. I really like the idea of a few hanging out in the swamps, but why should Arteheyn spare them, if they keep molesting her worshippers? She has every reason to want them all wiped out.
d24478667 07-15-07, 04:15 PM	Yeah, Frostbite is the Wanderer. And yes, it deserves a capital 'W'.
ewancummins 07-15-07, 04:52 PM	I have monster manual 5. The thrym hounds therein are totally awesome....[hint, hint]. Huge, rocky, wolflike monsters, covered with frost. Big enough for a frost giant to ride.
Camu 07-15-07, 05:41 PM	ok guys, I payed another 3AP to finally get that business with the attack of enfermia settled. So that makes it 5AP in total. That's enough in my opinion
ewancummins 07-15-07, 05:46 PM	I agree. The voidlings and mega oozes should be able to clean up the undigested chunks of Enfermia within Endless Hunger. It's not as if it actually weakens Enfermia Prima, anway.
d24478667 07-15-07, 06:34 PM	I would like to mention that the Wanderer's travels will not be recorded in God until it is discovered and known by the book; that is, the gods and mortals aren't the only ones that Frostbite has tricked.
Delfedd 07-15-07, 06:40 PM	I see Riverrocks point. I think it'd work. You certainly are not the only evil god. But it's not very fun plotting all by myself. Also, the Enfermia thing Is not over. Way to wake a sleeping giant, so to speak.
alchemyprime 07-15-07, 06:57 PM	42 explains everything because Tanner believes it does. http://www.myspace.com/bardicalchemist Read the blog from July 7th. It's all about 42. Also, numerology fans, I am trying hard to make every number be related to forty two. (I'll stop it eventually.) Tanner has momentary obsessions that are full force lawful, except what he is so adamant about changes far too often. Except for evolution. That's kind of his thing.
riverrock 07-15-07, 06:57 PM	Well, Morintu is playing nice currently.;)
d24478667 07-15-07, 07:12 PM	:heehee That's the understatement of the 100 full pages the game has gone on. Did you state Cold as one of the cactacae being followed because Frostbite was one of those two gods requesting help, Alchemy Prime? Because, no one knows where Frostbite is.
riverrock 07-15-07, 11:26 PM	I'm going to keep smiting Thrym until it sticks.
ewancummins 07-15-07, 11:41 PM	I've retonned those last couple of posts about Thrym. Arteheyn was probably too busy to do what she did in those posts, speaking realistically. The frost giant stuff was on her radar, but hardly her main concern. We'll just let the matter stand as it is, with Thrym dead. Hope you are all okay with that. In retrospect, I felt it was cheap to undo Riverock's actions in such a blatant way.
Camu 07-16-07, 06:13 AM	Hey Delfedd, what is Morintu's effective DvR at the moment with all those artifacts? Am I correct to assume with you having 16 DvR + 6 from those 6 artifacts for a total of 22 DvR? Also the name of my god is Ooulzoth, since you seem to have a habit to misspell the name.
Delfedd 07-16-07, 11:26 AM	No. Morintu currently has 8 artifacts (Including the heart and the philactery.) 6 of them grant 1.5 Morintu's DvR is 20. My Effective divine rank is 31.
Camu 07-16-07, 11:29 AM	double post
Camu 07-16-07, 11:34 AM	so you have your philactry with you, because if you don't I would say it doesn't count. Why 1.5 again, i thought artifacts only did +1 DvR
Delfedd 07-16-07, 02:00 PM	Normally. But this series of objects (The regalia) synergize with each other. It's been in the combat rules since the begining.
Camu 07-16-07, 02:03 PM	I see And how is it again for fighting in ones plane, do I get a +1 or +2 inside Endless Hunger? Just curious, still desiding what exactly I'm going to say to Morintu, since it's a mayor thing for both our gods.
Delfedd 07-16-07, 02:06 PM	+2. Major, I believe. Also, an interesting thing is, you have plenty of AP. Why not just rebuild it and not get dead?
Camu 07-16-07, 02:43 PM	because even with most of my minions in my private planes, my chuul and a tribe of humans i thought the art of the ooze horror, where still on the material plane and got perged almost completely with your plagues, thats why
Delfedd 07-16-07, 02:50 PM	Or... you could spend the nine AP and give me back the planes. And then not be dead.
Return of the Flumph 07-16-07, 04:03 PM	Actually, most of the plagues wouldn't work underwater, so the chuuls are probably okay.
d24478667 07-16-07, 05:45 PM	Hey Kirtaneous? It has been shown by Riverrock that most of the giants would rather die then repent. So... yeah. He may have a problem with that.
ewancummins 07-16-07, 05:51 PM	Maybe most of the giants, but surely not all of them. I find it difficult to believe a race with free will would all act as a monolithic block, all the time. Just seems unlikely. There are bound to be a few who will repent rather than die.
ewancummins 07-16-07, 05:55 PM	Wouldn't Mansa be totally nuts by now? Is he unable to dream at all, or is he just cut off from the collective subconscious of the dream Realm? I don't get it.
d24478667 07-16-07, 06:05 PM	Nice symbiotes. Ooulzoth is still doomed, unless someone gets him to give in though.
Camu 07-16-07, 06:09 PM	Would it possible for the 4 symbiote artifacts to work like Morintu's regalia in that they provide 1.5 to DvR instead of 1, or is that to much. Still going to be a close one
Camu 07-16-07, 06:19 PM	also, I know it was at least mentioned once but not sure if it was accepted, but wasn't there something that heralds (not avatars) could also give a bonus?
Delfedd 07-16-07, 09:23 PM	Wouldn't Mansa be totally nuts by now? Is he unable to dream at all, or is he just cut off from the collective subconscious of the dream Realm? I don't get it. Oh yes. He's nuts. If you notice, he's become completely obsessed with returning to dreams. He is willing to bargan with a Great Wyrm green dragon. He gathered madmen around him. Despite his insanity, he remains very charismatic. I do Believe that is correct, it was mentioned, although I'm not sure if it was agreed upon. I think it's +1. I suppose that would work. 1.5 for the symbiotes... makes sense. so Oozy will have +6 artifacts. +2 for your own plane, +1 for heralds. I think that puts you at 27 versus my 32. I'm not sure how much Britmara has. It says she only has one divine rank, but that can't be right.
ewancummins 07-16-07, 09:57 PM	Britmara added one DVR through her whole ''I dive into the sun '' action. Ask Riverrock what her proper starting DVR was. She's also got a martial class. She has two matched artifacts.
Delfedd 07-16-07, 10:35 PM	yeah, i realized they're supposed to be +1, not +2.
Camu 07-17-07, 02:36 AM	is it +1 per herald or just +1 if any number of heralds join? Also I don't see why sealing of my plane should not work? Alusia did it with Enfermia once, and nothing could be done to it. (and she payed 2 AP as well) She was even able to push every god in it out for free
Delfedd 07-17-07, 08:50 AM	+1 for any number of heralds. Yes, Alusia did do it once. However, only gods could not enter. Every other kind of creature was free to come and go.
Camu 07-17-07, 08:51 AM	so that makes it two heralds of you against 9 of mine 2 dragons vs 1 kython, 1 broodkeeper & 7 demodand lords
Delfedd 07-17-07, 08:54 AM	Legally I'm pretty sure only two can be heralds for our divine rank. If we go up higher on the divine scale we can get more.
Camu 07-17-07, 08:57 AM	dunno, never found any rules about how many heralds one can own
Delfedd 07-17-07, 08:59 AM	And the heralds don't serve as combat against the other gods. They instead serve as distractions for the gods as they combat. And anyway, what defines a herald anyway? It's just people saying that they're a herald. Not exactly the most scientific method.
Camu 07-17-07, 09:03 AM	hey, it's you who once said they could be used in the combat system and if there would come a limit to how many heralds one can have, I would also like to propose a limit to the number of artifacts can wield at a given time. If one would have a limit, the other thing would need a limit too. But anyway I suggest we first see what the others think about this last few posts and then continue the battle once we are completely sure who's team got what DvR
Delfedd 07-17-07, 09:09 AM	Well see, with artifacts you have to spend AP. With heralds, they just sort of happen. That's the major difference.
Camu 07-17-07, 09:12 AM	yeah but still, like a god with 2 arms can't wield 17 sword artifacts.
Delfedd 07-17-07, 09:16 AM	Correct.
d24478667 07-17-07, 10:08 AM	Unless he Evolves to have them incorporated into his being, in a way that is similar to what Glykllivar did when fighting Morintu.
Camu 07-17-07, 10:54 AM	Ok, I just loked a few things up, the only thing I couldn't find was Britmara's starting DvR, so our score can be a bt higher. These calculations are without the heralds. Morintu: normal DvR 20 artifacts total 11 __________________ total 31 VS Ooulzoth: normal DvR 18 artifacts total 6 from plane 2 _________________ total 26 Britmara: normal DvR 2* artifacts 2 war deity 1 __________________ total 5* * (she evolved once and starting DvR is at least 1 so that's a minimum of 2) that makes our total 26 + minimum 5 = 31 minimum. so thats 31 vs 31(or more), so without heralds it's a tie at best
Delfedd 07-17-07, 01:34 PM	Does Britmara have two artifacts? I was confused when I said that the artifacts would grant her +2, because only 3 ap was spent on the artifacts. It should be just +1. Alright. What happens if it is a tie? Does the lowest one die?
Camu 07-17-07, 01:46 PM	If the battle is undesided it will continue till the end of the ages with no victor at the end ;) :P No idea, I wouldn't state anyone get killed. Both forces are equal. Still there 's the matter of the heralds? So how do we deal with that?
Delfedd 07-17-07, 01:53 PM	I see the heralds as little more than a distraction. I mean, challenge rating 27? Against a god? Not likely to do much. I say that we do have some heraldic casualties though.
Camu 07-17-07, 02:05 PM	meh I dunno 2 dragons versus a paragon kython & broodkeeper, 7 demodand lords and countless voidlings
Delfedd 07-17-07, 02:13 PM	Don't forget the part with the battling gods. There's sure to be great energy released from that, and it'll probably ricochett off and hit some voidlings or damage the heralds. Also, death wind breath weapon. Ok. Here's how the herald thing will work. No matter what, you can get a maximum of +1, unless you spend 3 AP to gain another heraldic bonus.
Camu 07-17-07, 02:46 PM	I don't see why Since you probably have a bunch of AP left, the rule you just made is only to create an advantage for you. Besides, since we are fighting in my plane, which is a living thing that listens to Ooulzoth. It could very well start to attack and eat your 2 heralds, transforming them into voidlings. Or it could envelop them in a membrane and push them out of the plane, like real amoeba do. Or since it's one of my planes I could very well alter stuff to it for free, like creating vacuum bubbles at the places your 2 dragons are, which I don't think is very healthy to them. But still I say we wait till some of the others give there opinion, since we will always judge in our own interests.
Delfedd 07-17-07, 02:53 PM	Yes, that is your +2 bonus for being on your own plane. It does essentially negate the bonus I get from the heralds. However, they're dracoliches. You might have missed that. How can you turn stuff into voidlings? I mean, turning things into undead makes sense, but voidlings? Those come from the outer worlds.
Camu 07-17-07, 03:28 PM	Voidlings are my own creation, they are formed from the souls absorbed by Endless Hunnger.
Delfedd 07-18-07, 02:19 PM	I'm sorry lexius, but that last post was BS. Why? because magic and psionics are supposed to be DIFFERENT. Like... different things. Like not the same. Different things should be different from each other. I just wanted to make it clear that they're different. Also, just because you make something and call it something a little bit different, doesn't make it a different thing. Like if I created a new kind of cat, Arteheyn would still have power over it. it doesn't make things different. Part three of my complaint, the psion god has been gone for two, maybe three weeks. You disappear for a month and a half, and we preserve your stuff. How would you have liked it if you had returned to find I was the new Erza god? I'm almost certain you would have disliked it. So... do something cool and original for the "psionic leylines." Also, what's the point in making them? It just seems dumb and like a waste of AP. Because from what I've seen, the Leylines where originally the progenators of arcane magic among mortals, but psionics is already around, and has been around for quite some time.
Destrieth 07-18-07, 03:08 PM	I'm sorry lexius, but that last post was BS. Why? because magic and psionics are supposed to be DIFFERENT. Like... different things. Like not the same. Different things should be different from each other. I just wanted to make it clear that they're different. Also, just because you make something and call it something a little bit different, doesn't make it a different thing. Like if I created a new kind of cat, Arteheyn would still have power over it. it doesn't make things different. Part three of my complaint, the psion god has been gone for two, maybe three weeks. You disappear for a month and a half, and we preserve your stuff. How would you have liked it if you had returned to find I was the new Erza god? I'm almost certain you would have disliked it. So... do something cool and original for the "psionic leylines." Also, what's the point in making them? It just seems dumb and like a waste of AP. Because from what I've seen, the Leylines where originally the progenators of arcane magic among mortals, but psionics is already around, and has been around for quite some time. Seconded.
d24478667 07-18-07, 06:00 PM	I'm sorry lexius, but that last post was BS. Why? because magic and psionics are supposed to be DIFFERENT. Like... different things. Like not the same. Different things should be different from each other. I just wanted to make it clear that they're different. Also, just because you make something and call it something a little bit different, doesn't make it a different thing. Like if I created a new kind of cat, Arteheyn would still have power over it. it doesn't make things different. Part three of my complaint, the psion god has been gone for two, maybe three weeks. You disappear for a month and a half, and we preserve your stuff. How would you have liked it if you had returned to find I was the new Erza god? I'm almost certain you would have disliked it. So... do something cool and original for the "psionic leylines." Also, what's the point in making them? It just seems dumb and like a waste of AP. Because from what I've seen, the Leylines where originally the progenators of arcane magic among mortals, but psionics is already around, and has been around for quite some time. Thirded. RotF, is Glykllivar ignoring the Wanderer's wisp? I'm okay with that, I just want to know whether to have him move on or not.
ewancummins 07-18-07, 09:02 PM	Fourthed, in regards to the psionics issues. I liked the psion god- is that dude still playing?
Illeveun Bloodblaze 07-19-07, 01:47 AM	Psionics are different from magic. I know that. They still are different. All I did was turn it into a different form. If you think about it, this is not much different than Morintu usurping control of leylines from Lexius. Lexius is taking control of psionics to care for them the same way he cared for magic. Ahkier is the psion god right? He's been gone for a while. Plus, everyone else has been ignoring psionics. And about you being the new EZERA god, I might have disliked it, but I would have to deal with it. The new god that has to do with psionics is of psions and psionic monsters, not psionics.
Delfedd 07-19-07, 10:56 AM	"The new god that has to do with psionics of psions and psionic monsters, not psionics?" What the heck? Does that mean anything? Dude, an idea has been fourthed. Fourthed. Does that mean anything to you? Also, once again, I would control it. Because it's a leyline. I control leylines. Therefore I control psionic leylines.
Illeveun Bloodblaze 07-19-07, 05:19 PM	1: Let me rephrase that. The new god that had anything to do with psionics is Mirath Nirik, who is the god of psions and refugees. Ahkier, who was the psionic god, no longer has psionics, which SAGE now has. Which, in fact, SAGE would still have in his portfolio, the same way that Morintu has leylines, and Lexius has arcane magic. 2: It might have been fourthed, but that still is not a majority. 3: Morintu would not control it, because he only enslaved the leylines that had to do with magic. Lexius created a separate entity called "Psionic leylines" which are contained unto themselves and have no physical connection with the other leylines. Morintu would have to spend more ap to control the psionic leylines, at least that's what makes sense to me.
Camu 07-19-07, 06:36 PM	new month?
Return of the Flumph 07-19-07, 06:39 PM	Yes, new month. As for the leylines thing; I agree that "psionic leylines" trivialize psionics and makes them to similar to magic. If you want Lexius to have psionics in his portfolio, do it in a different way. Create something different. The psionic ezera are cool, though.
Zebppir 07-19-07, 08:23 PM	:D HI! I was wondering If I could enter this game which I think is awesome (I mean how many people create a Hombrew setting and have fun with it) anyway if this Is a private party/group/game etc.. then congrats and keep it up! P.s you might want to make a list of who created which race so somebody doesn't create a race that already exsists P.ss If I post this more than once I am deeply sorry:embarrass
alchemyprime 07-19-07, 08:26 PM	Um... that's up to riverrock if you can join. Hi, I'm the Quintessetial New Guy. Um... I created cactacae, and called dibs on the kreen. And the grindylow. And a few homebrew creatures. Also, if no one already did it and has not called dibs... Dibs on chagelings!
ewancummins 07-19-07, 08:30 PM	Yeah, PM Riverrock. There are a few gods open to play, I think. He's in charge of all that stuff.
d24478667 07-19-07, 10:00 PM	There is also a list of who created what; its mixed in with the god bios. Good to get another person in :)!
Return of the Flumph 07-19-07, 10:02 PM	Excellent, you can be the child my character just gave birth to.
Destrieth 07-19-07, 11:29 PM	Excellent, you can be the child my character just gave birth to. Just what flumph needs. More minions. :P
Illeveun Bloodblaze 07-19-07, 11:57 PM	okay fine, I'll change the psionic leyline thing. Anyone have any suggestions? I'm planning on Lexius realise that the leyline thing won't work for psionics, but I don't know what to do from there.
Kirtanus_Albacron 07-20-07, 12:35 AM	Zebppir, if you don't want to play Gyllikivar's child, I could create an elven god.
Return of the Flumph 07-20-07, 01:07 AM	Just what flumph needs. More minions. :P This coming from someone who was, until recently, Morintu's right hand goon.
Destrieth 07-20-07, 01:30 AM	This coming from someone who was, until recently, Morintu's right hand goon. Pfft, when I left him, I was but the learner. Now I am the master.
Destrieth 07-20-07, 02:57 AM	Okay, it's time for Destrieth to take up a new deity. A change of pace is what I need, so without further delay: Celeste The Daughter of the Sun setting over the Sea [DR 6] Lesser Deity, Sorceress/Bard 30 Symbol: A stylized rose in full bloom Home: The dreamrealms Alignment: Chaotic good Domain: Charm Portfolio: Love, romance, passion, mind-affecting enchantments Worshippers: Seekers of romance, enchanters Favored weapon: Piercing Desire (Longbow and arrows) Avatar: Celeste appears as a young, radiant woman of elven or human descent. She has merry blue eyes and red hair that bears hues of the setting sun. She carries a lute carved of the finest heartwood and wears a red oak bow as well as a quiver filled with arrows.
Return of the Flumph 07-20-07, 03:30 AM	Slightly ironic (Alusia's player playing Gly's daughter), but still cool. Looks like a good writup.
Destrieth 07-20-07, 03:41 AM	Slightly ironic (Alusia's player playing Gly's daughter), but still cool. Looks like a good writup. I thrive on irony, plus I figured you know... crazy former evil dead-serious deity... I need a little variance. So, happy love goddess!
Return of the Flumph 07-20-07, 03:44 AM	Hmmm. Gly gave birth to the love godess the usual way, and we both mentioned that Gly and Ky attended to her in her childhood. She wouldn't be meeting Ky for the first time now. We could go back and change it; whatever you want.
Destrieth 07-20-07, 03:46 AM	I suppose, but I imagine there's two stages to a god anyway. Yeah, there was a kinda deity child, but it wasn't a deity yet. A true god being born is an event, like waking up from a dream or something. That's how I envision it, anyway. Whatever you feel is better.
alchemyprime 07-20-07, 10:46 AM	Great. Now that there is a love goddess, once Tanner finds out... Well, my followers are philanderers for a reason. ;) Okay, but seriously, if we are aloud to call dibs... My dibs list: Thri-Kreen Variant Thri-Kreen (just two) Grindylow Scabmettlers My homebrew stuff (not that you guys would know it by anything but name...) Changelings Unless someone already did those... well, not the homebrew, but everything else...
d24478667 07-20-07, 10:50 AM	I'm thinking that I'm gonna create pegasi soon unless anyone wishes to first.
Camu 07-20-07, 10:52 AM	Evil_DM's god Blight has created doppelgangers, and i think if they crossbreed you got changelings
alchemyprime 07-20-07, 10:54 AM	Hm... yeah, but I didn't want it THAT simple... But if the half-dopplegangers and a new race were almost identical, then... GASP! Changelings are mysterious, and none can decide on their origins! They will be torn between Blight and Tanner as their patron deity! Nice.
Camu 07-20-07, 10:56 AM	Blight is no more however, so no dilemma there
Delfedd 07-20-07, 02:49 PM	A new Map is up. Also, what is Latrodectus's new writeup? I like the fact that we now have a powerful Lawful, neutral, and chaotic evil god, and they are fairly well balanced.
Delfedd 07-20-07, 02:56 PM	Also, I need more on the giants. Where the enfermia are they?
Camu 07-20-07, 04:50 PM	Ooulzoth believes he serves the greater good? Where did you get that idea from?
Delfedd 07-20-07, 06:06 PM	Dunno. probably made it up.
Return of the Flumph 07-21-07, 03:20 AM	There. Much better, Lexius.
ewancummins 07-21-07, 07:58 AM	I like the celestial crystal thingie. Mega psi-crystal!
Delfedd 07-21-07, 11:11 AM	I thin you need to start talking levels in psion. Where exactly is the bountiful country?
ewancummins 07-21-07, 11:57 PM	----It's where the old Ankheg Plains were, on the southestern continent. The Bountiful country should have some hills between it and the Plainsrunners' ancestral homeland. That's where the Hill Dwarves live. The Forest of Talking Beasts [will get a better name later] is located in that green patch just south of the elevn lands of the west. [Hoarwing and Hailwing came from here]. The azer cities are immediately north of the Waste, on a volcanic plain punctuated by cinder cone mountains and bowl-shaped craters, some of them hundreds of yards across.
Delfedd 07-22-07, 02:04 PM	Ok, we're almost in the last year. this will be some of our last chances to place sweet terrain in here.
riverrock 07-22-07, 02:15 PM	Hey everybody. Unfortunately, I no am no longer able to devote enough time to the game to continue playing. So I am sad to say that I have to call it quits. I wish the rest of you good luck in finishing out the game.
ewancummins 07-22-07, 03:11 PM	Goodbye Riverrock. We'll miss you. Now that Riverrock is leaving, we have two major issues to deal with: 1]What happens with Kyrinian? 2] Who takes over Riverrock's responsibilties[ domains, new gods, etc]? Now, I hope we get further guidance from Riverrock about Kyrinian. If not, perhaps the Dreamlord simply retires deep into the Dreamworld? He could retire from active engagement with the other gods and planes, keeping watch over dreams from the heart of his kingdom. His presence would prevent any other god from just walking in and taking over. As for his responsibilites, I can take them up, if no one objects.
Delfedd 07-22-07, 06:24 PM	Nope. I don't object. Of course, I would like to amass more power, but whatever. :P I think that would work. Blast and damnation... the false gods aren't going to work out. Ok. Here's something for the next year. It's mostly going to be a mortal affair. We gods aren't going to do much except watch and throw the occasional thunderbolt. For this purpose I have created Mansa, who I intend to be a conquerer. We need warlords, mad wizards (or psions), crimelords, and so on to litter the history. We have a rich and detailed religion. Now, lets start finishing things up with history.
Destrieth 07-22-07, 06:42 PM	I have an idea for Celeste, then. (Dammit Riverrock, have to go and leave...)
alchemyprime 07-22-07, 07:25 PM	Oh, I had an Idea for Tanner. I've beenn mentioning it slightly (The Lock, the Key), and let me put it this way: if it all works out fine, just fine, then Tanner evolves a bit, and maybe some other deities get more power. If it don't then Tanner is replaced by something much more confusing.
Return of the Flumph 07-22-07, 10:03 PM	Awe man, and the false gods thing was just getting cool. What will happen to Kyrinian and Latrodectus????? Anyway, I third the nomination of Ewancummins to fill Riverrock's shoes. Division of power and all that. As for mortal roleplaying...don't worry. I've had something in the works for a few days now.
Delfedd 07-22-07, 11:32 PM	Do you guys want to continue the false gods thing?
d24478667 07-22-07, 11:34 PM	I don't think we'd pull it off as well.
Return of the Flumph 07-23-07, 02:14 AM	Riverrock can tell one of us his longterm plan, and that person can continue it. Whoever has him on AIM can try and catch him. I'll also send a PM.
Camu 07-23-07, 06:37 PM	hey, how many month's do we still have until the next divine year?
Delfedd 07-23-07, 06:39 PM	three
Zebppir 07-23-07, 11:56 PM	Goodbye Riverrock. We'll miss you. Now that Riverrock is leaving, we have two major issues to deal with: 1]What happens with Kyrinian? 2] Who takes over Riverrock's responsibilties[ domains, new gods, etc]? Now, I hope we get further guidance from Riverrock about Kyrinian. If not, perhaps the Dreamlord simply retires deep into the Dreamworld? He could retire from active engagement with the other gods and planes, keeping watch over dreams from the heart of his kingdom. His presence would prevent any other god from just walking in and taking over. As for his responsibilites, I can take them up, if no one objects. congrats you are now a overpower!!!:D
ewancummins 07-24-07, 12:24 AM	Overpower, eh? :) I await confirmation for the rest of you guys. My priorities will be an update of the deity info at the beginning of the thread, and the smooth inclusion of any new players that wish to sign on for the remainder of the campaign[about 16 divine months, I believe]. I would like to thank everyone who has thus far been involved with the Lords of Creation. Participating in the threads has given me plenty of grist for my own homebrew, and been very enjoyable. I'd love to do a tabletop game with you guys, if only we lived in the same area.
Kirtanus_Albacron 07-24-07, 12:31 AM	ewan, I think it would be great if you were the new referee. Anyways, talking about the end of the project, how will the finished version happen? Will it be in PDF or something else? Will everyone take parts and them post them, so everyone can make sure that it is right? I am posting this now so that we can get some plans going.
Destrieth 07-24-07, 12:53 AM	Hey, let's not get too sentimental! It's far from over. /cackle Besides... who's to say there won't be a... Lords of Creation... THE SEQUEL? *cue dramatic music*
d24478667 07-24-07, 08:47 AM	Well, if you guys want it in a book form, there's always lulu.com.
Delfedd 07-24-07, 11:34 AM	it would be kind of fun to take on the rulers of countries in a similar fashion to what we're doing now, because right now we're always going to be tempted to just step in with godpowers. One of the problems with actually publishing it in book form is that we don't have enough crunch for this stuff yet. Secondly, many of the things we use that are fairly important to our world are not in the srd (the abel life cycle, incarnium and so on). I didn't have time to read through all the rules and regulations, but we definately would need to check that out before publishing. And paying. Anyway. I've come up with my idea for an interesting area. As soon as I am no longer engaged in conversation, I will create it.
alchemyprime 07-24-07, 11:50 AM	Sequel! Sequel! Sequel! Considering that I'm only going to be what, a 20 month old deity? The sequel... perhaps the LoC novel in the making? All of us as characters in the novel? I wanna be a cleric of Tanner. And he's right. This is in no way SRD or even OGL. We have ilithids, cactacae and grindylow. Those last two were all me, I know, but still. If we did a book, Mieville would totally sue our... I want to type the word, but I don't want it to be a bunch of asterisks. So I won't.
Camu 07-24-07, 12:47 PM	Well, we're not even in the third year yet, so lets just enjoy the game for now and worry about this things later. Maybe there could even be a fourth or even fifth year
Zebppir 07-24-07, 07:09 PM	Overpower, eh? :) I await confirmation for the rest of you guys. My priorities will be an update of the deity info at the beginning of the thread, and the smooth inclusion of any new players that wish to sign on for the remainder of the campaign[about 16 divine months, I believe]. I would like to thank everyone who has thus far been involved with the Lords of Creation. Participating in the threads has given me plenty of grist for my own homebrew, and been very enjoyable. I'd love to do a tabletop game with you guys, if only we lived in the same area. I still want to play And sequel? If I can't play now I can play In the sequel It's all up to you I guess PM me when you have decided :love: Zebppir
d24478667 07-24-07, 07:14 PM	I'd create a diety, but I'm blank on ideas. So, unless you have any, expect naught from me.
Delfedd 07-24-07, 08:16 PM	There's a deity of evil and retribution floating around... he could take on the form of the paragon tarasque.
ewancummins 07-24-07, 08:43 PM	Zebpir, what sort of god would you like to play?
Destrieth 07-24-07, 08:51 PM	Well, it's Evil and Wrath. Alusia still has retribution.
Zebppir 07-24-07, 08:58 PM	any and willing for advice though I would like to know are yochlol and chain devils taken???
Destrieth 07-24-07, 08:58 PM	Chain devils were created by Morintu. Not sure what yochlol are even, so no.
d24478667 07-24-07, 09:00 PM	They're handmaidens of Lolth.
Zebppir 07-24-07, 09:08 PM	so can I call dibs on the yochlol yes I have plans for them I was hopeing to be a god/goddess doesn't matter
Return of the Flumph 07-24-07, 10:18 PM	so can I call dibs on the yochlol yes I have plans for them I was hopeing to be a god/goddess doesn't matter Yes you can. The most prominant open slot is for an evil god (most likely female), and Yochlols are not taken.
d24478667 07-24-07, 10:45 PM	RotF, I edited my last post to make it easier to reply to if that was a previous issue.
Zebppir 07-25-07, 12:03 AM	Yes you can. The most prominant open slot is for an evil god (most likely female), and Yochlols are not taken. I'll take it though is the domain:knowledge taken because I was going for a goddess that uses secrets and deception sounds good?
d24478667 07-25-07, 12:12 AM	Yeah, twice, by Amon and Kur-Ah. Both of whom are not currently played. (Amon is missing and Kur-ah is not only dead, but his player recently left.)
Destrieth 07-25-07, 12:36 AM	I'll take it though is the domain:knowledge taken because I was going for a goddess that uses secrets and deception sounds good? There's no reason that deception and secrets can't fit under Evil anyway. (and that's what's open haha)
Zebppir 07-25-07, 06:54 PM	There's no reason that deception and secrets can't fit under Evil anyway. (and that's what's open haha) I like the way you think:plotting: :evillaugh
Destrieth 07-25-07, 07:02 PM	Plus, your goddess was created by my goddess. And we all know Alusia loves minions! Er, I mean... children. Alusia loves children. ...not that that sounds any better...
Zebppir 07-25-07, 07:12 PM	can't wait to breakout...I mean start out on my own away from sweet mom though how do mortals view time versus how the gods view time and can someone please help with a name?
ewancummins 07-25-07, 07:33 PM	Name? Hmmm. Well, this may not help, but I can tell you how I came up with the names for both goddesses I am currently running: Arteheyn- dervied from Artemis and Arthur[ both sharing a root meaning related to ''bear'' . I first used the name for a hero-goddess in a homebrew game, who was sortr of Joan of Arc/Arthur, with bear animal companions. Obviously, LoC's Arteheyn is different. I just liked the name enough to reuse it. Britmara- derived from the legendary Frankish warrior-woman Britomart. She shows up in the Matter of France.
d24478667 07-25-07, 10:08 PM	Glacieso was derived from the italian word for winter, and Frostbite is easy enough.
riverrock 07-25-07, 10:50 PM	Hi everyone! I managed to get enough time to post, and I just want to say a few last things. Ewan's suggestion for Kyrinian is probably the best route. There should be enough theoretical dream/nightmare lords that no god could simply take over the plane. I'd also be fine with someone taking over Latro. Just tell me you'd like to, and I'll pm you what I had been planning. Her concepts were nebulous enough that you should be able to put a unique spin on it as well. And as a final request: I really, really, really hate Mansa. A lot. What has been posted about him really clashes with the way I set up the dreamrealms. A person whose dreams are not actively being led by a succubus interacts with the dreamrealms as they are, projecting only a minimun psychic change on the dreamrealms. If a person was dreaming of being embraced by their god, they were having their dream led by a succubus. If Mansa were to attack someone whose dreams were being led by a succubus, the succubus would react very angrily. It's doubtful that'd he be let off easily for such an offense. Furthermore, I never said specifically dying in the dreamrealms kills a person in the real world. It may, but not neccessarily, and more than likely only under specific circumstances. In addition to this, I can't tell whether or not Mansa is bringing Dreamless into the dreamrealms. This is highly unlikely, as the only true portal to the dreamrealms is guarded by a powerful, corpulent nightmare lord. The dragon guarding the portal may be dead, but the nightmare on the other side certainly isn't. What I'm basically saying is that if Mansa was doing what Delfedd has him doing, he would end up forced out of the dreamrealms, again. The dreamrealms aren't his secret police tools, and the powers that be in the dreamrealm (be it Kyrinian, the succubi, or the dream/nightmare lords) would not allow him to behave the way he has been described as behaving. So I'd like it if he found a new place for whatever his schemes are. What he is doing isn't appropriate for the dreamrealms as I created them. And a few final crunchy things: Lucid Dreamer Prerequisite: Dreaming race Benefit: You are self-aware when you dream. This means that you remember your time in the dreamrealms when you awaken, you are immune to the compulsion powers of a succubus, and you are otherwise able to act normally in the dreamrealms. Normal: When a person projects their mind into the dreamrealms, they are under severe restraints. They are only partially self-aware while in the dreamrealms, they always fail to resist a succubi's compulsion power, and upon awakening details of the time spent in the dreamrealms tend to be extremely hazy and vague, and easily dismissable as fantasy. Succubi Succubi in the dreamrealms are not the same as typical MM succubi. They are not nightmares (they lack the evil subtype and the nightmare subtype, but still possess the dream creature subtype and the chaotic subtype.) In addition to this they are far more powerful than MM succubi (while in the dreamrealms). They are able to shape the dreamrealms with ease, compel (they refer to this a guiding) non-lucid dreamers into acting in a certain manner, and can rebuke or command creatures with the dream subtype. I hope that I will be able to post more on the dreamrealms whenever I find the time to do so.
Illeveun Bloodblaze 07-26-07, 12:08 AM	I got Lexius the Blue from Lexicon, as in a great repository of knowledge, and I decided that blue would be a color associated with him. Just warp a latin word into something that sounds good and is a concept you want your god to be based around.
Zebppir 07-26-07, 12:39 AM	thanks everyone I think I have a name picked almost one last thing fiends in general have they been created as a whole or what? oh and how many Lords of Creation threads are there?:confused: P.s have vampires been called? if not I call dibs:D :love: Zebppir P.s If you want to talk PM me okay?
Zebppir 07-26-07, 12:54 AM	what power level do I start as???????
ewancummins 07-26-07, 07:59 AM	Demons, devils,demodands, and daemons have been created. No one has created hordlings. Other fiends are certainly possible. You could either risk stepping on the toes of another god, and create a new type of one of the prexisting kinds of fiend[ say, stitched devils from the battle field waste of Enefermia] or make a new race. Perhaps take a monster from the books and apply the fiendish template to the whole species? Vampires have already been created. Ask Delfedd to tell you about what happened to the drow.....
Delfedd 07-26-07, 11:28 AM	Thanks Kyrinian for telling me. I probably would have messed up the world if I'd continued that. Your lucid dreaming makes it make sense now. I fixed the post. Anywho. Vampires... aah yes. They where created ages and ages ago, by the god Avnuk. He believed he had the one true rights to the undead, though he had not even animated one skelleton from beyond the grave. I, however, had created a race of undead so powerful, that they remain to this day. The liches. Avnuk, foolish as he was, attempted to replicate this formula and failed. The monsters he created could not stand sunlight, and needed blood to live. At first, they lived peacefully. However, Avnuk attempted to raise an army against me. So I entered the minds of the vampires and drove them mad. They slaughtered their drow compatriots. Avnuk then came to me asking for the formula for the lich. He wished to be the master of life beyond life. So I devoured him, or as they say in the book, "Morintu Smote Avnuk mightily with his gullet." :P Anyway, Morintu needs assistance nowadays. You'd be welcomed with open arms into Enfermia.
Zebppir 07-26-07, 06:21 PM	Thanks Kyrinian for telling me. I probably would have messed up the world if I'd continued that. Your lucid dreaming makes it make sense now. I fixed the post. Anywho. Vampires... aah yes. They where created ages and ages ago, by the god Avnuk. He believed he had the one true rights to the undead, though he had not even animated one skelleton from beyond the grave. I, however, had created a race of undead so powerful, that they remain to this day. The liches. Avnuk, foolish as he was, attempted to replicate this formula and failed. The monsters he created could not stand sunlight, and needed blood to live. At first, they lived peacefully. However, Avnuk attempted to raise an army against me. So I entered the minds of the vampires and drove them mad. They slaughtered their drow compatriots. Avnuk then came to me asking for the formula for the lich. He wished to be the master of life beyond life. So I devoured him, or as they say in the book, "Morintu Smote Avnuk mightily with his gullet." :P Anyway, Morintu needs assistance nowadays. You'd be welcomed with open arms into Enfermia. As tempting as that sounds:rolleyes: I don't think I want to be morintu's thug/minion/snack food/masseuer/concubine etc.... I think I shall be freelance:D
Delfedd 07-26-07, 07:10 PM	Very well. I'd Hire you. And whatnot
Zebppir 07-26-07, 08:02 PM	where do I post my goddess? and in a unrelated note she shall untill futher notice be free
Delfedd 07-26-07, 09:48 PM	Just post right here.
d24478667 07-26-07, 10:29 PM	I would just like to mention that I currently have 14 AP saved up, so as not to startle anyone when I use it.
ewancummins 07-26-07, 11:13 PM	Normally, I'd say the new goddess is a demigoddess. Alusia had already acheived overgoddess stature, yes? If so, and if she spent the AP to create a new god[4AP], I think lesser goddess[DR6] would be reasonable.
Zebppir 07-27-07, 12:23 AM	Normally, I'd say the new goddess is a demigoddess. Alusia had already acheived overgoddess stature, yes? If so, and if she spent the AP to create a new god[4AP], I think lesser goddess[DR6] would be reasonable. sounds good to me:D
Zebppir 07-27-07, 12:34 AM	Just post right here. nequelleden Artificer 20 [DR:11] Gallow's Queen The Hidden one Symbol: a pure white feather dripping poison into a pool of blood Home:haven't found one Alignment: neutral evil Domain - Evil,Wrath Portfolio - poison,evil alchemists,execution Worshipers: evil creatures/ executioners/ poisonmakers/ evil alchemists Favored Weapon:poison Avatar:a hauntingly beautiful woman with flowing red hair with a black silk robe holding a silver goblet How about this?
ewancummins 07-27-07, 12:43 AM	Needs a more specific portfolio. There are other evil gods, so you'll need to distinguish her from them. Is she a god of poisoners, intriguers, witches- what? Just evil creatures as worshippers also seems a bit too vague. Other than that, it looks good to me. Just needs a little polish. Add some detail, and she's ready to go.
d24478667 07-27-07, 01:06 AM	Hmm.. for worshippers I would put alchemists (poisonmakers) specifically, and corruption as a portfolio element. For what is poison but a corruption of body? Following corruption you could also do something with mistrust and other stuff.
Delfedd 07-27-07, 11:09 AM	Eh... that's pretty much taken by the Nine. Corruption and whatnot.
d24478667 07-27-07, 11:26 AM	Ah. My bad.
Delfedd 07-27-07, 11:27 AM	You also forgot the "wrath" domain. That's yours as well. I'd use that. Perhaps the "Gallowsman," or something. The executioner.
Destrieth 07-27-07, 03:08 PM	Actually, Alusia created the deity as Intermediate. I'm too lazy to find the post, but there you go.
Zebppir 07-27-07, 06:08 PM	Actually, Alusia created the deity as Intermediate. I'm too lazy to find the post, but there you go. now I have to find this post :weep:
Zebppir 07-27-07, 06:18 PM	fixed her up a bit what do you think now???
d24478667 07-27-07, 06:31 PM	Nah, we can take Destrieth's word for it. Portfolio isn't poison makers; it would be poison in general. I suggested Corruption, but as Delfedd pointed out, that schtick is taken.
Delfedd 07-27-07, 06:44 PM	It's cool.
Zebppir 07-27-07, 07:25 PM	Nah, we can take Destrieth's word for it. Portfolio isn't poison makers; it would be poison in general. I suggested Corruption, but as Delfedd pointed out, that schtick is taken. yes but I will still look for it and I would like my dear Gallow's Queen to grow up from a lesser to intermediate to hopefully a overgoddess just like my PC I want to create her character and personality Is this okay????
ewancummins 07-27-07, 07:33 PM	If Destrieth says she was created as an intermediate, so she was.
d24478667 07-27-07, 07:35 PM	Well, if you're willing to spend a lot of AP, yeah. that would be 4 months, then 5, and then 3, for a total of 12 turns, when we only have 16, if we don't extend it. If intermediate, its still 8 months. Of doing nothing besides improve yourself. 8 months without worshipers, or even a race that you've made. If you do that, no mortal will know your name.
ewancummins 07-27-07, 07:37 PM	I do hope we don't end up with multiple overgods. That just seems wrong. But this late in the game, I don't forsee it being a problem. People will naturally want to spend AP on things other than rasing DVR.
ewancummins 07-27-07, 07:39 PM	The Gallows Queen starts out at DVR 11.
Zebppir 07-27-07, 07:49 PM	Nah, we can take Destrieth's word for it. Portfolio isn't poison makers; it would be poison in general. I suggested Corruption, but as Delfedd pointed out, that schtick is taken. The Gallows Queen starts out at DVR 11. okay I will start out at DVR 11
Zebppir 07-27-07, 07:53 PM	Well, if you're willing to spend a lot of AP, yeah. that would be 4 months, then 5, and then 3, for a total of 12 turns, when we only have 16, if we don't extend it. If intermediate, its still 8 months. Of doing nothing besides improve yourself. 8 months without worshipers, or even a race that you've made. If you do that, no mortal will know your name. true so true I will settle for what I have
ewancummins 07-27-07, 08:07 PM	Update your post of the Gallows Queen, and begin posting as soon as you'd like. You have 4AP this month[standard ammount for an intermediate god]. Welcome to LoC.
d24478667 07-27-07, 08:29 PM	Yeah, if you look at like the first 15 pages when I was playing Glacieso (the original winter god) I would only evolve. That's it. When I hit 11 AP I was politely asked to retire Glacieso; and I'm happy I did. I like Frostbite much better.
ewancummins 07-27-07, 08:50 PM	Arteheyn just made a tribute race for her pal Frostbite. The cryion[ not my original creation, they come from old school D&D].
Zebppir 07-27-07, 09:13 PM	Update your post of the Gallows Queen, and begin posting as soon as you'd like. You have 4AP this month[standard ammount for an intermediate god]. Welcome to LoC. Just did and I just posted thanks for the welcome!!!!:clap: :love: Zebppir
d24478667 07-27-07, 09:13 PM	Arteheyn just made a tribute race for her pal Frostbite. The cryion[ not my original creation, they come from old school D&D]. Yeah, he'd thank her, except for the whole current anonymity.
Kirtanus_Albacron 07-28-07, 12:18 AM	Lol...I find it funny that there are now two planes named Paradise. :D
Destrieth 07-28-07, 08:46 AM	Haha, I doubt Alusia would let her erstwhile daughter get so far as even looking at Overdeity status without giving her a stern 'talking to'. And by talking to I mean punch in the nose. ;P
Delfedd 07-28-07, 11:11 AM	I suggest that in year 3, we double the cost for increasing DvR, so we are locked in. Year three is going to need to be more oriented toward mortals. So I've been trying to figure out a fair turn based strategy game for controlling countries. I figure we have AP like things, and the way that you increase AP is by adding territory. You do that by building and enforcing borders. Eventually we would need a combat system for armies. I think that this will be necissary, because if we're just playing as countries, there will be a lot of god moding going on. Anyone have any ideas? The next year is two months away.
d24478667 07-28-07, 11:15 AM	I have to call BS on the Master Orb. I would say it can control all mortal dragons. Frostbite is a dragon. Morintu's heralds are dracolichs. I don't think the orb should be able to control them.
Destrieth 07-28-07, 11:26 AM	Delfedd, I like the increasing cost for DvR... but the whole idea involving controlling countries like a minigame... ehhh... Feels too gimmicky, and I think roleplay is just fine. There's no need to add more pointless systems. (mortal action points come to mind. it pretty much tanked.)
Delfedd 07-28-07, 11:26 AM	Yeah. But What i'm thinking is a system everyone works on that works.
Destrieth 07-28-07, 11:27 AM	That's the thing. It's adding complexity where there needs to be none. WHAT I'D LIKE I’d like this to be a role-play exercise that will help us with world building as well as role-playing. I think that says it all, really. So for me, :thumbsdow to any system additions.
alchemyprime 07-28-07, 01:47 PM	Hey, you could probably hitch a room with Tanner. Huge tower, ready for residence. Just ask once yer a god, kay?
Delfedd 07-28-07, 01:52 PM	Fair enough. Also, I realized I should not try to think up modifications for Lords of Creation while I'm working. But I do think we should assign countries, or at least leaders of countries. I mean, if no one else plays politics with you, you feel pretty foolish.
d24478667 07-28-07, 03:08 PM	You could also have joined TyDyw, which gives you a plane for free that you can edit with no AP cost and seal at will. Without AP. (That's divinely morphic for ya; lots o' fun.) Also, you would be the first evil god I can think of to join TyDyw. Unless you count Rythe'al, who is debateable.
Delfedd 07-28-07, 03:10 PM	Or you could join Enfermia. Ditto to all you've said, except your "allies" aren't going to kill you first chance they get.
d24478667 07-28-07, 03:18 PM	Or you could join both. ----- The only time that one god in TyDyw even attacked, let alone killed, a god in TyDyw was when Frostbite attacked Rythe'al who was killing the damn world. Though that was the first chance he got, yes. Oh, and Morintu has a higher kill count then anyone else. And I didn't bash Enfermia; you can at least not bash TyDyw.
Delfedd 07-28-07, 05:21 PM	Although none of them where Enfermians. I do not believe that I attacked Kyrinian after his betrayal.
d24478667 07-28-07, 05:36 PM	Note I never said they were. Just pointing it out. Diefic bashing is fine; just don't bash the pacts. ;) In case you're not sure, the last sentence was a joke. And is or isn't Morintu aware that Frostbite isn't going to acknowledge the wisp, as he is wandering with anonymity?
Zebppir 07-28-07, 05:37 PM	You could also have joined TyDyw, which gives you a plane for free that you can edit with no AP cost and seal at will. Without AP. (That's divinely morphic for ya; lots o' fun.) Also, you would be the first evil god I can think of to join TyDyw. Unless you count Rythe'al, who is debateable. Enfermia? TyDyw? what's the differance
d24478667 07-28-07, 05:56 PM	TyDyw was formed by Kur-Ah. When Morintu attacked the ley lines, he was temporairily banned from TyDyw and formed Enfermia, which was originally a safe haven for those who didn't like TyDyw. Right now? Resident Dieties. TyDyw Arteheyn Lexius Frostbite Tanner (Soon) Alusia Enfermia Morintu The Nine Alusia Kyrnian Frostbite I probably missed some on both lists. Oh, and I think that almost all in Enfermia were evil at some point: Morintu, who (debatably)corrupted Kyrnian, Alusia, and the Nine. I can only think of one who isn't, and that would be Frostbite.
Zebppir 07-28-07, 06:12 PM	TyDyw was formed by Kur-Ah. When Morintu attacked the ley lines, he was temporairily banned from TyDyw and formed Enfermia, which was originally a safe haven for those who didn't like TyDyw. Right now? Resident Dieties. TyDyw Arteheyn Lexius Frostbite Tanner (Soon) Alusia Enfermia Morintu The Nine Alusia Kyrnian Frostbite I probably missed some on both lists. Oh, and I think that almost all in Enfermia were evil at some point: Morintu, who (debatably)corrupted Kyrnian, Alusia, and the Nine. I can only think of one who isn't, and that would be Frostbite. okay I get it now thanks just one question The nine???? oh and is the Tarrasque taken? and what about calling to the races of fall god.goddess and taking over their portfolio?
Delfedd 07-28-07, 06:20 PM	The Nine or the Artifact Lords. I created five artifacts which bind a spirit to the godhead of the artifact lords upon their death. Their are nine artifact lords, so they call themselves the nine. Each one is technically a minor god, but together they function as a major god.
d24478667 07-28-07, 06:33 PM	Fall god? And the tarrasque was made when the behemoth exploded; it was what's left.
Destrieth 07-28-07, 07:45 PM	Aye. Technically the Behemoth/Tarrasque is a deity in the making of which I have indirect control (being the creator of the tarrasque way back when). Not sure how I'm going to handle that one yet (Delfedd and I had some plans).
Illeveun Bloodblaze 07-29-07, 01:32 AM	d2, The dracoliches would not be affected by a dominate effect, and Frostbite would most definetly make his save against it. Oh, and Selevern is part of TyDw. So is SAGE. here are the stats for the master orb and the arm of Lexius. Master Orb of Dragonkind Each use of the Orb drains 1000 xp, 25 hp, and deals 2 points of Constitution damage. The orb generates a 200 foot burst. Each dragon caught within the effect must make a DC 30 will save or be subjected to a dominate effect. The wielder of the Orb can sacrifice an extra 10,000 xp, 50 hp, and accept 2 points of Constitution drain to boost the will save to DC 50. Spell Resistance is not useful. The wielder is immune to the effects of the breath weapons and only the breath weapons of true dragons. This effect is continuous and does not require a sacrifice Arm of Lexius The wielder of the Arm gains a bonus of +3 to his caster level. The Arm of Lexius can be used as a spellbook by it's wielder with a limitless amount of pages. The wielder of the Arm gains a +3 bonus to checks made to penetrate spell resistance. Lastly, the wielder of the Arm can use arcane fire as the archmage ability as a 5th level archmage without taking levels in archmage and sacrificing a spell slot. If the wielder is already an archmage with this ability, they gain an +5 effective archmage level for the use of this ability.
Delfedd 07-29-07, 09:49 AM	The arm is just ridiculus. An infinite spellbook which can never be removed? No. It's just wrong.
Zebppir 07-29-07, 01:00 PM	Fall god? And the tarrasque was made when the behemoth exploded; it was what's left. the question was can a god/goddess take over the portfolio and the creatures the fallen god/goddess once had
ewancummins 07-29-07, 01:15 PM	I vote against any rise in the cost of DVR. I see no need. If people want to spend all their points on ''leveling up'' and do nothing else, they won't have much influence in the game. It balances out quite nicely. There's no point in making it harder now. We have passed the midway point of play. Let's keep the same rules that have worked well enough for us thus far. As for a subsystem to control mortal kingdoms, I think that's best left aside for now. I enjoy the simplicity of the current arrangement . Delfedd, you and I ought to work up a set of simple domain rules for future use. We have a couple of good resources to use: Dragon Mag article titled Designer Demenses, Birthright rules from 2E, and OD&D domain rules/Warmachine. This would be a seperate campaign[though it could use the mythos of LoC, if you like]. Pm me if you are interested.
Zebppir 07-29-07, 01:16 PM	Hey, you could probably hitch a room with Tanner. Huge tower, ready for residence. Just ask once yer a god, kay? thanks I will I have ideas for tanner:evillaugh
Zebppir 07-29-07, 01:18 PM	I vote against any rise in the cost of DVR. I see no need. If people want to spend all their points on ''leveling up'' and do nothing else, they won't have much influence in the game. It balances out quite nicely. There's no point in making it harder now. We have passed the midway point of play. Let's keep the same rules that have worked well enough for us thus far. As for a subsystem to control mortal kingdoms, I think that's best left aside for now. I enjoy the simplicity of the current arrangement . Delfedd, you and I ought to work up a set of simple domain rules for future use. We have a couple of good resources to use: Dragon Mag article titled Designer Demenses, Birthright rules from 2E, and OD&D domain rules/Warmachine. This would be a seperate campaign[though it could use the mythos of LoC, if you like]. Pm me if you are interested. seconded
d24478667 07-29-07, 01:41 PM	I vote against any rise in the cost of DVR. I see no need. If people want to spend all their points on ''leveling up'' and do nothing else, they won't have much influence in the game. It balances out quite nicely. There's no point in making it harder now. We have passed the midway point of play. Let's keep the same rules that have worked well enough for us thus far. As for a subsystem to control mortal kingdoms, I think that's best left aside for now. I enjoy the simplicity of the current arrangement . Thirded. Anyway, I would love to extend this past 3 years. Well, one of the three gods that Frostbite said could bring him back has expressed desire to do so, when one more does, he'll come back. Or the third year, whichever is sooner.
Delfedd 07-29-07, 02:04 PM	Eh. We can't do that. We have to end in tension so play begins in tensio.n I can see a future game based on politics. Lords of Nations or something
ewancummins 07-29-07, 02:10 PM	I am in full agreement with Delfedd on this one. We should end at the close of the third year. I like the concept of a limited run. End in tension, and all that jazz.
d24478667 07-29-07, 02:11 PM	Fair enough; I'm fine with ending it then also.
Illeveun Bloodblaze 07-29-07, 03:59 PM	Delfedd, the arm can be removed. It's just a simple matter of cutting it off.
d24478667 07-29-07, 04:04 PM	Yeah, except there aren't rules for cutting off arms. You have to think of the D&D rules also.
Delfedd 07-29-07, 06:18 PM	Yeah. Look at other artifacts and base the power off of them.
alchemyprime 07-29-07, 10:24 PM	Ah man... so many people have plans for Tanner. The god of which he has 7 minds, each in control of a sixth of his power... consider that fraction for a moment... and now you're insane! The butterfly... the clay... the god most likely to sleep with any goddess who asks if he has the AP left/he feels it may advance evolution... or be fun... If you need to imagine what Tanner looks like (not so much his avatar, Jeff), just think David Tennant as the Doctor, and put him in fantasy-esque scientist attire. Oh man... what ever happened to that love goddess?
d24478667 07-29-07, 10:37 PM	Celeste, goddess of love, is currently talking to Glykllivar in Lahach, which the Wanderer has just entered to give 3 objects to Glykllivar. Or rather two objects and an idea.
Delfedd 07-29-07, 10:38 PM	She's Morintu's granddaughter. Tanner would probably have to evolve his way out of having his head smashed in. Just saying.
d24478667 07-29-07, 10:54 PM	.... That implies that Morintu either cares more for his granddaughter then his daughter... OR Morintu simply likes Frostbite more then Tanner. I find the latter dubious, because Frostbite did get mad and insulted Morintu to his face twice, the latter because of Kur-ah being killed... Note: He's still mad about that.
Delfedd 07-29-07, 11:04 PM	Nno. Morintu truely cares about his children, and his grandchildren. He even cares about Arteheyn... although not when she kills him. He's a little bitter about that. He also likes Kyrinian more than frostbite, when it comes to his daughter. Also, when are you going to respond to my message?
d24478667 07-29-07, 11:12 PM	And I quote (myself): And is or isn't Morintu aware that Frostbite isn't going to acknowledge the wisp, as he is wandering with anonymity? (end quote) So when he comes back. If at all.
Illeveun Bloodblaze 07-30-07, 12:08 AM	You can sunder.
d24478667 07-30-07, 12:13 AM	No, you can't sunder an arm. At least, not without a houserule, and that would be rampant stupidity.
Illeveun Bloodblaze 07-30-07, 12:19 AM	I don't know. I think in one of the books there is a called shot variant, at least as far as I can remember.I don't have all of my books with me right now, so I can't find it.
d24478667 07-30-07, 12:22 AM	Still, it would be kinda dumb to implement said rule.
Destrieth 07-30-07, 06:04 AM	What happened to Celeste? She's currently talking with Glykllivar, as d# said. Why?
Delfedd 07-30-07, 11:07 AM	I'm going to agree with d#. Morintu isn't aware of that fact.
Delfedd 07-30-07, 02:23 PM	Also. I find it Ironic that my very purpose in making the words (Making more lawful evil characters) caused an entire organization to change from chaotic neutral to lawful evil over the course of one post. By banning the word.
d24478667 07-30-07, 02:31 PM	Yeah, just don't complain when Frostbite turns em all CG. ;) Maybe Morintu could ask someone why Frostbite refuses to respond, and find out. I suggest Arteheyn, seeing as her book is the one that has the chronicle of up to when he left. Technically Celeste is only spending 3 ap, as Arteheyn just made water elementals.
Destrieth 07-30-07, 04:02 PM	Ack! Ewan, I wrote my post as you were writing yours. I'll change mine.
ewancummins 07-30-07, 04:12 PM	Sure, no problem. Guys, please send me any additions to your list of created creatures. I am going to do a little cut and paste action, to recreate the list of gods and stuff. We need an update, bigtime. A couple of gods aren't even on the list!
ewancummins 07-30-07, 04:31 PM	This is partially updated now. It is still behind. Please list what you need updated, and I will do so. For example, Alusia isn't a lesser deity anymore. Morintu is LE now, yes? Unlisted gods should be posted below. I will then edit and repost the whole thing. [1] Absaul-rote (Missing) the storyteller [DR:50] Supreme Deity, Bard35/Monk15, [AP:6] Symbol: Quill Home: Void Alignment: Neutral Domains: Creation, Time, Fire, Sun, Cold, Darkness Portfolio: Worshipers: Favored Weapon: Quill (longsword) Avatar: Travelling Storyteller [2] Amon (Dead) [DvR 20] Greater Deity, Cleric/Paladin 47, [AP:6] Symbol: White Staff Home: Haven Alignment: Lawful Neutral Domains: Law, Fate, Good, Knowledge, Death, Dwarf, Dwarf Portfolio: Order, Good, Wisdom, Heros Worshipers: druids, nomads, scholars, kings, judges, philosophers, paladins, monks, wizards Favored Weapon: Spear of Fate Avatar: An old soldier Species Created: Lung, Merfolk, Titans, Dwarves [3] Ahuizotl (Missing) the sleeping god, the man on the moon He who cleaved the world in two [DvR 16] Greater Deity, Barbarian 20/Fighter 20, [AP:5] Symbol: A double-bladed axe Home: pending; (Plane of Light,moon) Alignment: Chaotic Domains: Chaos, Battle, Plants, Moon Portfolio: Chaos Worshipers: Barbarians, Mercenaries, Bandits, Favored Weapon: "Bloodseeker" an obsidian-edged greataxe Avatar: A powerfully built humanoid with the head and fur of a black panther, wearing ornate gold breastplate and wielding a giant-sized axe. Spceis created: protean plants, ahuizotls [4] Kur-ah (Dead) He who saw, Furnace of Foresight [DvR 16] Greater Deity, Druid 20/Wizard (Diviner) 20 Symbol: A heart of molten stone Home: Void Alignment: True Neutral Domains: Fire, Earth, Rune, Knowledge, Dragons Portfolio: Fire, Magma, Earth, Prophecy Worshipers: Druids, Seers, Doomsayers, Dragons Favored Weapon: "The Rock and The Flame" Dire Flail, one stone head, one burning head. Avatar: The shape of an elderly man with beard and wearing robes that are made out of stone. His mouth and eyes glow with the intence fire that is the heart of the world. He has a gaping hole in his chest that shines with the purple light of magic. Species Created: Dragons, Minotaurs, Centaurs, Keepers, Rilmani, Azer, nerra, elemental weirds [5] Arteheyn the River Maiden [DvR 16] Greater Deity, Druid 21 Cleric 20 Symbol: a silver scaled fish, a green snake, or a stylized icon depicting a blue river against a green background[ rectangle crossed by a snaking blue line] Home: Earth, Arteheyn's Garden Alignment:Neutral Domains: Water, Animals, Community, Weather, Plants, Spider Portfolio: precipitation , nourishment of living things, rivers Worshipers: farmers, herders , river folk, minotaurs, myconids Favored Weapon: Flail of Sundering[ heavy flail] Avatar: She appears as a fair young woman, clad in simple garb of blue or green. She is barefoot, and leaves watery tracks behind herself. Her silvery hair flows as if she were floating in a stream. Species Created: Tritons, Coautls, Tendriculos, Assassin Vines, Animals and Plants, Oceanic Creatures, Dragons, Desert Plants, Sauguaro Sentinels, myconids, chevalls, Animal Lords, Spiders, mortai, dire animals, giant bugs[ants, bees, etc.], ankhegs, basilisks, dragonnes, shocker lizards, fungoid guardian species[violet fungi, phantom fungi, basidironds, ascomoids], minor deaths, ettercaps, actaeons, talking beasts ,water elementals, cryions, golems,aurumvoraxes [6] Morintu Skylord [DvR 16] Greater Deity, Monk/Druid 41 [AP:6] Symbol: The thousand chains Home: Plane of Air Alignment: Lawful Neutral Domains: Air, Storm, Law, Dragons, Undeath, Fury, Death, Earth Portfolio: Weather, Justice, the Undead Worshipers: Sailors, Druids, Judges, Astrologers, Dragons Favored Weapon: Shackles of Justice (A series of chains which tie him to the stars.) Avatar: A Bipedal, winged Lion with the head of a serpent and hands of a Man. He has a great, whipping serpent's tail. His chains bind him to the universe. He drifts through the world like a dust mote on the wind. Species Created: Vaati, Dragons, Inevitables, Djini, Undead, Liches, Death Knights, Devils, Mummies, Ghouls, Ghasts, Kobolds,gnomes,earth elemntals, air elementals, dretches, abel and abeloks, halflings [7] Ry'theal (Dead) [DR:12] Intermediate Deity, Duskblade 21/Fighter 15, [AP:4] Symbol: A Sun Shining Above a Plateau Home: The Sun Alignment: Chaotic Good Domains: Sun, Pride, Freedom, Protection Portfolio: Worshipers: Warriors Favored Weapon: Ray of Light(Spear) Avatar: An almost dog-like biped, with opposable thumbs, but paws for feet. His fur color is dirty blonde, and instead of a dog face there is one much like an elf, but with two tiny horns on top of his head. Species Created: Solanthi, ramdeen, sun-trees [8] Lexius the Blue [Dvr16] Greater Deity , Wizard 19 Spellthief15 [AP:7] Symbol: Upside-down Crescent Moon, vertically upon that is a maul. Home: Paradise Alignment: Neutral good Domains: Magic, Moon, Liberation, Madness Portfolio: Arcane Magic Worshippers: Wizards, Sorcerers, Ezera, Favored Weapon: Unstoppable Might of Magic (Maul) Avatar: Bipedal Hawlklike Creature, wearing robes, with a maul apon his back Species created: ezera [9] NAME: Akhier (Missing) [DR:9] Lesser Deity, Sorc/psion seer 30 Battle Sorc/Pyrokineticist 4 [AP:7] Symbol: a sideways hourglass Home: Reehier (giant tree) Alignment: Chaotic Neutral Domains: Time, Glory, Portfolio: Worshipers: Seers, Psions, Ystalhier Favored Weapon: staff of the day(a crystal quarterstaff with flaming burst on both ends) Avatar: a constantly changing fluid crystals in the shape of a man that has a warm glow radiating out from him with eyes like 2 suns of intense fire [10] Kersys (Missing) [DR:6] Lesser Deity, Beguiler 20/Swordsage 14 Symbol: A sphere of darkness with an inscribed hourglass, half-filled on each side. Home: Earth Alignment: Lawful Neutral Domains: Time, Darkness Portfolio: Time, night, darkness Worshipers: Rogues, beguilers, thieves, (any that operate by night) Favored Weapon: Nightbringer (two-bladed sword) Avatar: The Night Within: A humanoid form wearing entirely black, almost made out of the substance of darkness and the night sky. In the middle of his back the phases of the moon are inscribed as if they were carved into his very substance. His eyes reflect the night sky, but he has no other facial features. Species Created: Rodents, Dusklings [11] Frostbite [DR]:8 Lesser Diety Druid 15/Totemist15 [AP:3] Symbol: Home: Earth Alignment: Chaotic Good Domain: Winter, Community, Cold Portfolio: Frost, Cold, Community Worshippers: Frost Mages, Arctic Peoples Favored Weapon: Glacieso's Eye (Bow) Avatar:White dragon, with icy wings, teeth, and claws. Species Created: Artic Rose Lizardfolk, Woodlings.thrym hounds [12] Kyrinian DR [6] Lesser Deity, Barbarian 14/Ranger 14 Symbol: A red spear striking a green circle and a waning blue crescent Home: Earth Alignment: Chaotic Neutral Domains: Summer, Dream Portfolio: Summer, Moon Worshippers: Favored Weapon: Sword of Summer's Strike (Greatsword) Avatar: A humanoid with the lower body of a wolf, and the upper body of a young man with red hair, green eyes, and the antlers of a deer. His torso is covered with green streaks that that grow and shimmer. Creatures Created: Nereids, Dryads, Glitterhaunts, Lycanthropes, Nightmares, Unicorns, Eladrin, Salamanders, succubi, harpies [13] Name: K’Thymon The Scaled One (Missing) [DR 11] Intermediate Deity Sorcerer 20/Barbarian 21 Home: The Mountains by the Chasm Alignment: Neutral Domains: Dragons Portfolio: Dragons, mountains, fire. Worshippers: Dragons, sorcerers, sentient reptiles, sometimes barbarians. Favored Weapon: Iron Claw (Greatsword) Avatar: A scaled humanoid, wiry and tall (just below Large sized) with scales of many colors, a greatsword strung across his back, and a black robe, and similar eyes that seem to look through everything instead of at it. [14] Glykllivar the sailor, empress of the deep [DvR: 16] Intermediate Deity, Ranger 20/Druid 21 Symbol: a blank flag Home: Lahach Alignment: Chaotic Good Domains: Ocean, Travel, Protection Portfolio: sailors, aquatic beings, the sea in general, etc. Worshipers: Seamen, fishermen, aquatic beings Favored Weapon: a barbed longspear Avatar: A beautiful brown haired female humanoid in naval dress (the sailor), or a bluish female torso with an eel’s head (empress of the deep) Species Created: Dragon Turtles, Sea Giants, Morkoths, Ocean Giants, Sea Elves, [15]NAME: Pholtone (Dead) [DR:11] Intermediate Deity, rogue 20/ ninja 15 [4 AP] Symbol: a hand grasping a red orb Home: plane of light Alignment: Chaotic Neutral Domains: Chaos, Moon, Healing Portfolio:chaos, light, moon Worshipers: barbarians, mercenaries, Favored Weapon: the fingernail (kukri) Avatar: a creature (the most common race in the area) with a large hand and a wrist instead of a head and a neck Creatures Created: Athachs, Slaad [16] Kakavindus (Missing) The False Dragon [DvR: 16] Greater Deity, Rogue 20/Wizard 20 [AP: 8] Symbol: Black four-pointed star Home: Karkeri (Plane of Evil) Alignment: Neutral Evil Domains: Evil, Destruction Portfolio: Violence, all manner of evil Worshippers: Evil creatures, some Wind Dukes, Worgs, Yugoloths Favored weapon: “Corrupting Edge,” a poisoned falchion Avatar: A dark humanoid possessing the face and claws of a wolf, the wings of a black dragon, and a reptilian tail tipped with a stinger. Creatures Created: Worgs, Yugoloths, Gnolls [17] Alusia The Golden Lady, Watcher of Creation [DR:21] Supreme deity, Warblade 30 [AP:10] Symbol: A broken sword Home: Gorgild Alignment: Lawful Neutral Domain: Wrath, Retribution, Fire, Creation Portfolio: - Worshippers: None Favored weapon: The Quill of Creation (Longsword) Avatar: The avatar of Alusia is a white-skinned humanoid female clad in golden flowing garments. Golden light pours from eyes like pools of mercury and golden steam wafts from her nose and mouth. Creatures Created: MM Angels, Werelions, Hobgoblins, Vengeance Fey, Fire Elementals [18] NAME: Avnuk (Dead) [DR: 6] Lesser Deity, Wizard 24 / Psion (savant) 10 Symbol: A skull of a dragon, with Bright red eyes Home: Anacrix Alignment: Neutral Domains: Necromancy, Deathbound Portfolio: Death, Undeath, Power, Corruption Worshipers: Necromancers, Cultists Favored Weapon: Reach Of Corruption (staff) Avatar: A young, pale, Black robed man with one bright red eye and a skeletal hand. Creatures Created: Vampires [19] NAME: Kethvok (Missing) [DR: 11] Intermediate Deity, fighter 30 / assassin 8 Symbol: Two axes forming a cross, in front of a broken shield Home: Void Alignment: Evil Domains: War, Hatred Portfolio: Death, Destruction, War Worshipers: Warriors Favored Weapon: Fanged Slayer (Claymore) Avatar: A large Male orc, with numerous scars all over his body. He wears tough leather armor, adorned with the skulls of various creatures Creatures Created: Orcs [20] Name: Elvunil (Missing) [DR:15] Intermediate Deity, Bard30/Monk10, [AP:4] Symbol: A red book, with a white eye in the center Home: Void Alignment: Neutral Domains: Pact, Oracle Portfolio: The future, present, and past, alliances Worshipers: Sages, and knowledge seekers. Favored Weapon: the Fist Avatar: Travelling Monk. Long white hair, and deep blue eyes and a look of knowledge on his face. [21]Corwyn (Missing) [DR:6] Gestalt Rogue/Sorc 30 Symbol: Golden Triangle with mouth-like semi circle inside. Home: Void Alignment: Chaotic Neutral Domain - Trickery Portfolio - Deceit, Seduction, and Wit Worshipers: Con men, seducers, and flatterers Favored Weapon: Razor Wit - Rapier Avatar: He appears it whatever form the local populace has. However, he always appears as an incredibly beautiful androgynous being, whose sex is questionable. He always pays attention to what is most fashionable for the populace, and wears only the most fashionable clothes. [22]Father Blight (Dead) [DR:11] Intermediate Deity, Cleric 20, rogue 15, [AP:4] Symbol: A gold ring Home: Void Alignment: Chaotic Evil Domains: Pestilance, Vile Darkness, Madness Portfolio: Sickness, monsters, challanges, danger, threats, evolution of good, degridation of evil. Worshipers: Blighters, rogues, cultists, (dogma has little apeal to most evil creatures) Favored Weapon: Thrusting hand (punching dagger) Avatar: Humanoid dressed in smart and neat black clothes that are at the height of fashion in the area, Left half handsom but cold with sholder length black hair, blue eye and neat moustash, right half degraded rotting slime and puss covered body with a white eye and stingy grey hair. Right hand is gloved. Creatures Created: Dopplegangers, Hags, Goblins, Rakshasa, Derro 23]NAME: Ooulzoth He-who-Hungers, The Faceless Lord, Lord of Nothing,… [DR:18] Intermediate Deity, Cleric20/Oozemaster15, [AP:9] Symbol:A Worm with tentacles. Home: Void Alignment: Neutral Evil (maybe a bit to the chaotic) Domains: Hunger, Slime, Destruction Portfolio: hunger, slimes, oozes, jellies Worshipers: (anyone foolish enough) Favored Weapon:Tentacle or Pseudopod or Artifact Symbiotes Avatar:It looks like a giant worm with tentacles. It's skin is made out of a black an purple looking crust, whitch constantly shifts and cracks, and oozes out green slime.Thousands of small eyes cover it’s body. On it’s back are several volcano-like structures that constantly emit a purple black cloud of spores. Another form is that of a faceless humanoid made entirely of ooze and slime. It has tendrils and tentacles for hair. He wears several symbiotes, a red gauntlet on his right hand, a dark tentacled bracer on his left, a dark armor with a hive like structure and 2 worm tentacles. He also has a mask that also has no face on it. Creatures Created: Demodands, kythons, tsochar, neogi, chuul, grell, Void ships, Voidlings, mindflayers of Thoon [24]Britmara [DR: 4] demi-deity Crusader level 30 Symbol: A small bird perched atop a upright sword's point, against a background formed by an azure shield clustered with seven silver stars. Home: Haven Alignment: Neutral Good [leaning toward LG] Domain: Courage Portfolio: courage , hope, defense of the weak and the innocent Worshippers: good folk beset by evil, soldiers entering righteous battle, crusaders and zealots who oppose evil Favored weapon: Merciful Stroke Avatar: Her avatar appears as a female humanoid , beautiful and athletic with a celestial aura about her. She wears partial plate and mail armor of graceful and lightweight design. A shield is strapped on her left arm. She carries a sword at her side. [Think of the MM1 image of the ghaele eladrin, that's close]. Creatures Created: Lupins [25]NAME:Therias Lord of Trade, Coin's Soul [DR:6] wizard5/expert10/fighter10 Symbol: A coin with a ship engraving. Home: Void Alignment: Neutral Domains: Commerce [I think its called that] Portfolio: Trade, traders, economy in general Worshipers:Merchants, caravanists Favored Weapon: Light Crossbow Avatar: A tall middle-aged man with eerie eyes. (The eyeballs are shaped like coins.) He wears richly embroidered clothes. [26]NAME: Mirath Nirik (Missing) Thought Seer, The Mind Bender. [DR:6] Lesser Diety, Psion 20/Mindspy 10 Symbol: A green spark shaped like a circle on a purple backround. Home: Void Alignment: Chaotic Neutral Domains: Mind Portfolio: Psions, Refugees Worshipers:- Psions, Psychic Monsters Favored Weapon: His Mind Avatar:- A young man, slightly tanned, wearing leather pants and many belts. He has no hair and a green tatoo on his face. [27] NAME: Sage [DR: 6] Lesser Deity: Illusionist 20 / Psion 7 / Loremaster 7 Symbol: A metal anulis Home: Disc City (sort of) Alignment: Lawful Good Domains: Illusion, Knowledge Portfolio: illusion magic, psionics, science, lore Worshipers: natural philosophers, sane psions, some humans Favored Weapon: AMMA-61 Disruption Rod (quarterstaff) Avatar: A hovering, holographic human face made up of numerous transcluscent spheres. He can also speak through his old body in Disc City, which is a metal cube covered in interface modules, plasma screen moniters, and microholoprojectors. Creatures Created: -automatons,clockroaches [28]Selevern The Bloodborn, Freedom-Giver, Elf-Father [DvR 16] Rogue 20/Dread Commando 14/ Incarnate 2 AP:3 Home: Prime Material Alignment: Neutral Good Symbol: A Longsword breaking a Chain Domains:Freedom, Elf, Courage, Transformation, Incarnum Portfolio: Gurrellia Tatics, Defending the Weak, Freedom from Tyrants, Elves Worshippers: Rebels, Gurrellia Fighters,Elves Favored Weapon: The Strike of Freedom(Longsword) Avatar: An Elven man clad in full breastplate with blood red cloth covering the leggings and bright red hair. Spcies crated:elves, some kind of magical giants[name?] [29] Tanner The Chrysallis, The Clay, He who Causes Ripples in the Pond [DR:6] Transmuter 17 (Prohibited: Enchantment and Necromancy)/Egoist 12/Rogue3/Cleric 2 Symbol: Butterfly Home: Refuge (for now) Alignment: Chaotic Neutral Domains: Transformation Portfolio: Evolution of creatures Worshipers: Transmuter, philanderers, scholars (those concerned with evolution), egoists Favored Weapon: Whip or Natural Weapon Avatar: A humanoid of whatever is most adaptable to the reigon, constantly adapting to the new environment, such as suddenly the ears becomeing more elf like, or a nose becoming orcish when a good smell comes by then returning to a human nose, hair color changing, switching from male to female or vice versa, etc. Normally dressed in a white coat, though occasionally dressed in mage's attire or an open vest. Species created: Cactacae, Magebred animals, Grindylow, Changelings Celeste The Daughter of the Sun setting over the Sea [DR 6] Lesser Deity, Sorceress/Bard 30 Symbol: A stylized rose in full bloom Home: Celestri Alignment: Chaotic good Domain: Charm Portfolio: Love, romance, passion, mind-affecting enchantments Worshippers: Seekers of romance, enchanters Favored weapon: Piercing Desire (Longbow and arrows) Avatar: Celeste appears as a young, radiant woman of elven or human descent. She has merry blue eyes and red hair that bears hues of the setting sun. She carries a lute carved of the finest heartwood and wears a red oak bow as well as a quiver filled with arrows. Creatures Created: Nymphs [B]King of all Tribes [Son of Gwen] Great Mother Latrodectus-spelling?
d24478667 07-30-07, 04:35 PM	Frostbite had gained the Cold domain. His favored weapon is Glacieso's Eye (Longbow)
Destrieth 07-30-07, 04:38 PM	Celeste The Daughter of the Sun setting over the Sea [DR 6] Lesser Deity, Sorceress/Bard 30 Symbol: A stylized rose in full bloom Home: Celestri Alignment: Chaotic good Domain: Charm Portfolio: Love, romance, passion, mind-affecting enchantments Worshippers: Seekers of romance, enchanters Favored weapon: Piercing Desire (Longbow and arrows) Avatar: Celeste appears as a young, radiant woman of elven or human descent. She has merry blue eyes and red hair that bears hues of the setting sun. She carries a lute carved of the finest heartwood and wears a red oak bow as well as a quiver filled with arrows. Creatures Created: Nymphs [17] Alusia The Golden Lady, Watcher of Creation [DR:21] Supreme deity, Warblade 30 [AP:10] Symbol: A broken sword Home: Gorgild Alignment: Lawful Neutral Domain: Retribution, Fire, Creation Portfolio: - Worshippers: None Favored weapon: The Quill of Creation (Longsword) Avatar: The avatar of Alusia is a white-skinned humanoid female clad in golden flowing garments. Golden light pours from eyes like pools of mercury and golden steam wafts from her nose and mouth. Creatures Created: MM Angels, Werelions, Hobgoblins, Vengeance Fey, Fire Elementals (Alusia's entry taken from Riverrock's updated post on the first page)
Camu 07-30-07, 05:17 PM	An update for my god [23]NAME: Ooulzoth He-who-Hungers, The Faceless Lord, Lord of Nothing,… [DR:18] Intermediate Deity, Cleric20/Oozemaster15, [AP:9] Symbol:A Worm with tentacles. Home: Void Alignment: Neutral Evil (maybe a bit to the chaotic) Domains: Hunger, Slime, Destruction Portfolio: hunger, slimes, oozes, jellies Worshipers: (anyone foolish enough) Favored Weapon:Tentacle or Pseudopod or Artifact Symbiotes Avatar:It looks like a giant worm with tentacles. It's skin is made out of a black an purple looking crust, whitch constantly shifts and cracks, and oozes out green slime.Thousands of small eyes cover it’s body. On it’s back are several volcano-like structures that constantly emit a purple black cloud of spores. Another form is that of a faceless humanoid made entirely of ooze and slime. It has tendrils and tentacles for hair. He wears several symbiotes, a red gauntlet on his right hand, a dark tentacled bracer on his left, a dark armor with a hive like structure and 2 worm tentacles. He also has a mask that also has no face on it. Creatures Created: Demodands, kythons, tsochar, neogi, chuul, grell, Void ships, Voidlings
ewancummins 07-30-07, 05:22 PM	I have included the updates I have received thus far. I will check again later tonight, so please add more as needed.
Camu 07-30-07, 05:25 PM	maybe just an idea, but maybe we should also add an artifact part to the god description, so everyone knows how many you have and there bonus
ewancummins 07-30-07, 05:27 PM	Artifact list? Possibly a good idea, but would it go on the god list? -Ewan
Destrieth 07-30-07, 05:27 PM	Because that's not metagaming, right? Honestly, do you get to look at the DM's monster sheet when your group jumps into a combat encounter? :P
ewancummins 07-30-07, 05:29 PM	Oh, we need an updated list of planes and their relative 'positions'. Delfedd, care to help me on this one? You did a great job on the planar map.
Delfedd 07-30-07, 05:29 PM	I also have halflings. That's a good idea. "Tools" or something. Sure. I thought the planes would be around the same places... although there are those missing ones.
ewancummins 07-30-07, 06:11 PM	I will add halflings to Morintu, then. Didn't Sage create githyanki? Did he also create githzherai?
ewancummins 07-30-07, 06:24 PM	I was rereading the rules on page one, when I realized siomething important: maximum number of domains by rank greater=7 intermediate=5 lesser=4 demi=3 Please note that this can be exceeded by spending 3AP per additional domain[Create New Domian Slot action]. Please record how many times you create an additional domain slot. Gnome and Halfling domains are both open now. Morintu has first dibs on both, provided he can pay the 3APper domain[he's up to 8 domains now, so he's already past the nrmal allotment]. In no one claims them soon, I'll add two god slots[a gnome god and a halfling god] to the playable list.
Delfedd 07-30-07, 06:36 PM	Morintu did spend the AP to gain an extra slot before gaining earth. Just check it out.
d24478667 07-30-07, 06:42 PM	I have a friend who may or may not be interested in joining, I'm not sure yet, so I'll ask them later, and if they say yes, I'll see if they want either of those two slots, if no one else minds.
ewancummins 07-30-07, 06:49 PM	No need for me to check it out, Delfedd. I am happy to take your word for it. Just wanted to make sure we didn't miss anything. Thanks. I put Gnome and Halfling up for Delfedd's consideration because Morintu created those races. If he doesn't want them, then we can leave them open for two new gods[which could be cool].
Delfedd 07-30-07, 06:52 PM	Hm... Difficult. They are both lawful evil, but i'm afraid people will try to take away my awesome flavor. Maybe if the halfling god was also a god of war or something, that'd be pretty cool. I'm wary to let them go because I don't want freaking KENDER in this world, nor do I want TINKER GNOMES. Yeah, I have problems with Dragonlance.
ewancummins 07-30-07, 06:53 PM	Halflings are half-sized Spartans, aren't they? ;)
ewancummins 07-30-07, 06:55 PM	My hatred of kender knows no bounds. Tinker gnomes make me ill.:) Warlike halflings and elementalist gnomes are way cooler.
d24478667 07-30-07, 06:56 PM	My friend knows nothing of Dragonlance. Or kender. I haven't heard of tinker gnomes, and neither have they.
ewancummins 07-30-07, 07:10 PM	Then all is well. Thank goodness. Kender and tinker gnomes were comic relief races.
d24478667 07-30-07, 08:55 PM	I'm working on creating a LoC website. Once I figure out how to get it online, I will.
Delfedd 07-30-07, 09:45 PM	Yup. Mucho cooler. Now that you mention elementalist, I think I'll send the two other sorts of elementals to breed in the city.
ewancummins 07-30-07, 10:00 PM	HALFLINGS, PREPARE FOR GLORY!
d24478667 07-30-07, 10:02 PM	Damn, I wanted to make some paraelementals. Just don't breed water and air, ok? Please?
ewancummins 07-30-07, 10:08 PM	Lightning quasi elementals for Morintu, I should think.
d24478667 07-30-07, 10:09 PM	Well, that requires the Positive Energy Plane. I don't think we have one yet.
ewancummins 07-30-07, 10:18 PM	Hmmm... We sort of have a Negative plane, with Morintu's old prison [he modified it , later on]. Would the radiant realm beyond the Sun count as a Positive Plane? Positive energy already exists, even without such a plane. May I add that Frostbite created a whole plane of Lightning? That would be enough justification for lightning quasi elementals, I should think.
d24478667 07-30-07, 10:19 PM	But it wasn't a quasielemental plane. It was a plain, firstly, and secondly it was just very, very stormy.
ewancummins 07-30-07, 10:23 PM	Ah, I stand corrected. Well, air elemntals were created on the Plane of Air. Fire elemntals were created in Enfremia[or was it Karkeri]. Earth and water elemntals were created on the Prime Material, form existing masses of earth and water. I am not sure we need to have the same planes that the Great Wheel has, in order to produce elementals of various types. We've already deviated from the standard model quite a bit.
d24478667 07-30-07, 10:25 PM	I mean, technically it was a plane, but all it really was was a small extra-(material plane) plain that was very, very stormy. Thats true. One of the planes is in the middle of the prime material.
ewancummins 07-30-07, 10:28 PM	I suggest the paraelementals may be created by spending 2AP and mixing two of the exitsing elemental types[earth, air, fire, water]. Quasi elementals would need to be exposed to large ammounts of negative or positive energy, thus mutating them into a new type. Also costs 2AP[it's a create pop. action] Of course, this is just my theory.
alchemyprime 07-30-07, 11:25 PM	Tanner's chunk of TyDw is Positive dominant. I've been meaning to make Energons. But I have waaay too many plans be fore that, so if someone else takes the Xeg-Yi, go for it. I just want Xag-Ya. (And eventually, finding a way to get the Life domain... I really need to use Create Concept...) Oh, and add Changelings to my list... And should the Nine be up on the list? I'd like to know some stuff about Iladia. So my list should have: Cactacae, Magebred animals, Grindylow, Changelings (in that order)
ewancummins 07-30-07, 11:33 PM	Life domain, eh.....? I am interested to see how you propose to gain it. Create concept seems like a smart way to go.
Delfedd 07-31-07, 01:03 PM	Just an fyi d#, my friend is interesting in the halfling god thing. He's going to become a god in an... interesting fashion. A while ago, we brought up mortals ascending to godhood, a la god of war. I am going to send this halfling on a quest. If he succeeds, he will ascend to godhood.
d24478667 07-31-07, 02:25 PM	Ah. If they don't want to play a gnome god, I'll probably have to shed one of my domains which will be... irritating.
Delfedd 07-31-07, 02:29 PM	Sorry. My domains and whatnot. Don't phrase it as "A gnome god." Phrase it as a "the god of a noble race of recently ascended warriors, a brave people who shed their ties to battle as mercenaries and live in an enlightened land. Masters of the four elements, these ascended mercenaries continue their old viewpoints of domination over the rest of the world, except now instead of shouting about it, they write papers about why they should be masters, and then enact them. They're also very short."
d24478667 07-31-07, 02:33 PM	Oh, I wasn't saying it was your fault. And thats too wordy for casual conversation. Oh, and did you ever test the link I PM'ed you Delfedd?
Delfedd 07-31-07, 02:38 PM	Yeah. Didn't work. Sorry. I know. It was kind of a joke. Not all the way though. That's still what I want to be conveyed.
d24478667 07-31-07, 02:41 PM	No worries, I was pretty sure it wasn't. I don't think I will get that page live, which is a shame because it had the names of the players next to the gods, the domain list, and the rules.
Delfedd 07-31-07, 02:43 PM	Oh well. Also, Ewan, My DvR is 20.
d24478667 07-31-07, 02:47 PM	Yeah, a webmaster I ain't. If my friend doesn't grab gnomes, may I? I want to get some elemental binding and elemental grafts from eberron in here. And warforged, and shifters, but those can wait.
Delfedd 07-31-07, 02:58 PM	We have warforged. They're runebound or something dumb that Amon HAD to make before dying. -.- I suppose so. Just don't shaft your friend.
d24478667 07-31-07, 03:01 PM	If. And if they don't, I'm shelling out 4 AP and a domain. If anything, I get shafted. Not quite, because I have 14 saved up, but still. Damn, I can't make warforged then. Unless I kill the runebound... Genocide is evil, right? Damn. EDIT: I just checked the species list. No runebound.
Delfedd 07-31-07, 03:14 PM	Amon made em. Anyway, I do like the flavor better.
d24478667 07-31-07, 03:21 PM	Of which? That is an ambiguous statement.
Zebppir 07-31-07, 06:04 PM	I was rereading the rules on page one, when I realized siomething important: maximum number of domains by rank greater=7 intermediate=5 lesser=4 demi=3 Please note that this can be exceeded by spending 3AP per additional domain[Create New Domian Slot action]. Please record how many times you create an additional domain slot. Gnome and Halfling domains are both open now. Morintu has first dibs on both, provided he can pay the 3APper domain[he's up to 8 domains now, so he's already past the nrmal allotment]. In no one claims them soon, I'll add two god slots[a gnome god and a halfling god] to the playable list. I'll claim if no one else will though I prefer the gnomes please and is medicine a concept yet because if it isn't I call dibs
d24478667 07-31-07, 06:09 PM	Well, theres a waiting list; Delfedd's friend for halflings, my friend for gnomes, and me for gnomes if my friend doesn't want to do gnomes. But there has been a few healing gods. Neither lasted long. (the reborn version of the guy Morintu smote with his gullet and Blight.)
Zebppir 07-31-07, 06:11 PM	If. And if they don't, I'm shelling out 4 AP and a domain. If anything, I get shafted. Not quite, because I have 14 saved up, but still. Damn, I can't make warforged then. Unless I kill the runebound... Genocide is evil, right? Damn. EDIT: I just checked the species list. No runebound. I'll take care of them for you if you want:evillaugh
Zebppir 07-31-07, 06:18 PM	[QUOTE=ewancummins;13243472]This is partially updated now. It is still behind. Please list what you need updated, and I will do so. For example, Alusia isn't a lesser deity anymore. Morintu is LE now, yes? Unlisted gods should be posted below. I will then edit and repost the whole thing. [1] Absaul-rote (Missing) the storyteller [DR:50] Supreme Deity, Bard35/Monk15, [AP:6] Symbol: Quill Home: Void Alignment: Neutral Domains: Creation, Time, Fire, Sun, Cold, Darkness Portfolio: Worshipers: Favored Weapon: Quill (longsword) Avatar: Travelling Storyteller [2] Amon (Dead) [DvR 20] Greater Deity, Cleric/Paladin 47, [AP:6] Symbol: White Staff Home: Haven Alignment: Lawful Neutral Domains: Law, Fate, Good, Knowledge, Death, Dwarf, Dwarf Portfolio: Order, Good, Wisdom, Heros Worshipers: druids, nomads, scholars, kings, judges, philosophers, paladins, monks, wizards Favored Weapon: Spear of Fate Avatar: An old soldier Species Created: Lung, Merfolk, Titans, Dwarves [3] Ahuizotl (Missing) the sleeping god, the man on the moon He who cleaved the world in two [DvR 16] Greater Deity, Barbarian 20/Fighter 20, [AP:5] Symbol: A double-bladed axe Home: pending; (Plane of Light,moon) Alignment: Chaotic Domains: Chaos, Battle, Plants, Moon Portfolio: Chaos Worshipers: Barbarians, Mercenaries, Bandits, Favored Weapon: "Bloodseeker" an obsidian-edged greataxe Avatar: A powerfully built humanoid with the head and fur of a black panther, wearing ornate gold breastplate and wielding a giant-sized axe. Spceis created: protean plants, ahuizotls [4] Kur-ah (Dead) He who saw, Furnace of Foresight [DvR 16] Greater Deity, Druid 20/Wizard (Diviner) 20 Symbol: A heart of molten stone Home: Void Alignment: True Neutral Domains: Fire, Earth, Rune, Knowledge, Dragons Portfolio: Fire, Magma, Earth, Prophecy Worshipers: Druids, Seers, Doomsayers, Dragons Favored Weapon: "The Rock and The Flame" Dire Flail, one stone head, one burning head. Avatar: The shape of an elderly man with beard and wearing robes that are made out of stone. His mouth and eyes glow with the intence fire that is the heart of the world. He has a gaping hole in his chest that shines with the purple light of magic. Species Created: Dragons, Minotaurs, Centaurs, Keepers, Rilmani, Azer, nerra, elemental weirds [5] Arteheyn the River Maiden [DvR 16] Greater Deity, Druid 21 Cleric 20 Symbol: a silver scaled fish, a green snake, or a stylized icon depicting a blue river against a green background[ rectangle crossed by a snaking blue line] Home: Earth, Arteheyn's Garden Alignment:Neutral Domains: Water, Animals, Community, Weather, Plants, Spider Portfolio: precipitation , nourishment of living things, rivers Worshipers: farmers, herders , river folk, minotaurs, myconids Favored Weapon: Flail of Sundering[ heavy flail] Avatar: She appears as a fair young woman, clad in simple garb of blue or green. She is barefoot, and leaves watery tracks behind herself. Her silvery hair flows as if she were floating in a stream. Species Created: Tritons, Coautls, Tendriculos, Assassin Vines, Animals and Plants, Oceanic Creatures, Dragons, Desert Plants, Sauguaro Sentinels, myconids, chevalls, Animal Lords, Spiders, mortai, dire animals, giant bugs[ants, bees, etc.], ankhegs, basilisks, dragonnes, shocker lizards, fungoid guardian species[violet fungi, phantom fungi, basidironds, ascomoids], minor deaths, ettercaps, actaeons, talking beasts ,water elementals, cryions, golems,aurumvoraxes [6] Morintu Skylord [DvR 16] Greater Deity, Monk/Druid 41 [AP:6] Symbol: The thousand chains Home: Plane of Air Alignment: Lawful Neutral Domains: Air, Storm, Law, Dragons, Undeath, Fury, Death, Earth Portfolio: Weather, Justice, the Undead Worshipers: Sailors, Druids, Judges, Astrologers, Dragons Favored Weapon: Shackles of Justice (A series of chains which tie him to the stars.) Avatar: A Bipedal, winged Lion with the head of a serpent and hands of a Man. He has a great, whipping serpent's tail. His chains bind him to the universe. He drifts through the world like a dust mote on the wind. Species Created: Vaati, Dragons, Inevitables, Djini, Undead, Liches, Death Knights, Devils, Mummies, Ghouls, Ghasts, Kobolds,gnomes,earth elemntals, air elementals, dretches, abel and abeloks, halflings [7] Ry'theal (Dead) [DR:12] Intermediate Deity, Duskblade 21/Fighter 15, [AP:4] Symbol: A Sun Shining Above a Plateau Home: The Sun Alignment: Chaotic Good Domains: Sun, Pride, Freedom, Protection Portfolio: Worshipers: Warriors Favored Weapon: Ray of Light(Spear) Avatar: An almost dog-like biped, with opposable thumbs, but paws for feet. His fur color is dirty blonde, and instead of a dog face there is one much like an elf, but with two tiny horns on top of his head. Species Created: Solanthi, ramdeen, sun-trees [8] Lexius the Blue [Dvr16] Greater Deity , Wizard 19 Spellthief15 [AP:7] Symbol: Upside-down Crescent Moon, vertically upon that is a maul. Home: Paradise Alignment: Neutral good Domains: Magic, Moon, Liberation, Madness Portfolio: Arcane Magic Worshippers: Wizards, Sorcerers, Ezera, Favored Weapon: Unstoppable Might of Magic (Maul) Avatar: Bipedal Hawlklike Creature, wearing robes, with a maul apon his back Species created: ezera [9] NAME: Akhier (Missing) [DR:9] Lesser Deity, Sorc/psion seer 30 Battle Sorc/Pyrokineticist 4 [AP:7] Symbol: a sideways hourglass Home: Reehier (giant tree) Alignment: Chaotic Neutral Domains: Time, Glory, Portfolio: Worshipers: Seers, Psions, Ystalhier Favored Weapon: staff of the day(a crystal quarterstaff with flaming burst on both ends) Avatar: a constantly changing fluid crystals in the shape of a man that has a warm glow radiating out from him with eyes like 2 suns of intense fire [10] Kersys (Missing) [DR:6] Lesser Deity, Beguiler 20/Swordsage 14 Symbol: A sphere of darkness with an inscribed hourglass, half-filled on each side. Home: Earth Alignment: Lawful Neutral Domains: Time, Darkness Portfolio: Time, night, darkness Worshipers: Rogues, beguilers, thieves, (any that operate by night) Favored Weapon: Nightbringer (two-bladed sword) Avatar: The Night Within: A humanoid form wearing entirely black, almost made out of the substance of darkness and the night sky. In the middle of his back the phases of the moon are inscribed as if they were carved into his very substance. His eyes reflect the night sky, but he has no other facial features. Species Created: Rodents, Dusklings [11] Frostbite [DR]:8 Lesser Diety Druid 15/Totemist15 [AP:3] Symbol: Home: Earth Alignment: Chaotic Good Domain: Winter, Community, Cold Portfolio: Frost, Cold, Community Worshippers: Frost Mages, Arctic Peoples Favored Weapon: Glacieso's Eye (Bow) Avatar:White dragon, with icy wings, teeth, and claws. Species Created: Artic Rose Lizardfolk, Woodlings.thrym hounds [12] Kyrinian DR [6] Lesser Deity, Barbarian 14/Ranger 14 Symbol: A red spear striking a green circle and a waning blue crescent Home: Earth Alignment: Chaotic Neutral Domains: Summer, Dream Portfolio: Summer, Moon Worshippers: Favored Weapon: Sword of Summer's Strike (Greatsword) Avatar: A humanoid with the lower body of a wolf, and the upper body of a young man with red hair, green eyes, and the antlers of a deer. His torso is covered with green streaks that that grow and shimmer. Creatures Created: Nereids, Dryads, Glitterhaunts, Lycanthropes, Nightmares, Unicorns, Eladrin, Salamanders, succubi, harpies [13] Name: K’Thymon The Scaled One (Missing) [DR 11] Intermediate Deity Sorcerer 20/Barbarian 21 Home: The Mountains by the Chasm Alignment: Neutral Domains: Dragons Portfolio: Dragons, mountains, fire. Worshippers: Dragons, sorcerers, sentient reptiles, sometimes barbarians. Favored Weapon: Iron Claw (Greatsword) Avatar: A scaled humanoid, wiry and tall (just below Large sized) with scales of many colors, a greatsword strung across his back, and a black robe, and similar eyes that seem to look through everything instead of at it. [14] Glykllivar the sailor, empress of the deep [DvR: 16] Intermediate Deity, Ranger 20/Druid 21 Symbol: a blank flag Home: Lahach Alignment: Chaotic Good Domains: Ocean, Travel, Protection Portfolio: sailors, aquatic beings, the sea in general, etc. Worshipers: Seamen, fishermen, aquatic beings Favored Weapon: a barbed longspear Avatar: A beautiful brown haired female humanoid in naval dress (the sailor), or a bluish female torso with an eel’s head (empress of the deep) Species Created: Dragon Turtles, Sea Giants, Morkoths, Ocean Giants, Sea Elves, [15]NAME: Pholtone (Dead) [DR:11] Intermediate Deity, rogue 20/ ninja 15 [4 AP] Symbol: a hand grasping a red orb Home: plane of light Alignment: Chaotic Neutral Domains: Chaos, Moon, Healing Portfolio:chaos, light, moon Worshipers: barbarians, mercenaries, Favored Weapon: the fingernail (kukri) Avatar: a creature (the most common race in the area) with a large hand and a wrist instead of a head and a neck Creatures Created: Athachs, Slaad [16] Kakavindus (Missing) The False Dragon [DvR: 16] Greater Deity, Rogue 20/Wizard 20 [AP: 8] Symbol: Black four-pointed star Home: Karkeri (Plane of Evil) Alignment: Neutral Evil Domains: Evil, Destruction Portfolio: Violence, all manner of evil Worshippers: Evil creatures, some Wind Dukes, Worgs, Yugoloths Favored weapon: “Corrupting Edge,” a poisoned falchion Avatar: A dark humanoid possessing the face and claws of a wolf, the wings of a black dragon, and a reptilian tail tipped with a stinger. Creatures Created: Worgs, Yugoloths, Gnolls [17] Alusia The Golden Lady, Watcher of Creation [DR:21] Supreme deity, Warblade 30 [AP:10] Symbol: A broken sword Home: Gorgild Alignment: Lawful Neutral Domain: Wrath, Retribution, Fire, Creation Portfolio: - Worshippers: None Favored weapon: The Quill of Creation (Longsword) Avatar: The avatar of Alusia is a white-skinned humanoid female clad in golden flowing garments. Golden light pours from eyes like pools of mercury and golden steam wafts from her nose and mouth. Creatures Created: MM Angels, Werelions, Hobgoblins, Vengeance Fey, Fire Elementals [18] NAME: Avnuk (Dead) [DR: 6] Lesser Deity, Wizard 24 / Psion (savant) 10 Symbol: A skull of a dragon, with Bright red eyes Home: Anacrix Alignment: Neutral Domains: Necromancy, Deathbound Portfolio: Death, Undeath, Power, Corruption Worshipers: Necromancers, Cultists Favored Weapon: Reach Of Corruption (staff) Avatar: A young, pale, Black robed man with one bright red eye and a skeletal hand. Creatures Created: Vampires [19] NAME: Kethvok (Missing) [DR: 11] Intermediate Deity, fighter 30 / assassin 8 Symbol: Two axes forming a cross, in front of a broken shield Home: Void Alignment: Evil Domains: War, Hatred Portfolio: Death, Destruction, War Worshipers: Warriors Favored Weapon: Fanged Slayer (Claymore) Avatar: A large Male orc, with numerous scars all over his body. He wears tough leather armor, adorned with the skulls of various creatures Creatures Created: Orcs [20] Name: Elvunil (Missing) [DR:15] Intermediate Deity, Bard30/Monk10, [AP:4] Symbol: A red book, with a white eye in the center Home: Void Alignment: Neutral Domains: Pact, Oracle Portfolio: The future, present, and past, alliances Worshipers: Sages, and knowledge seekers. Favored Weapon: the Fist Avatar: Travelling Monk. Long white hair, and deep blue eyes and a look of knowledge on his face. [21]Corwyn (Missing) [DR:6] Gestalt Rogue/Sorc 30 Symbol: Golden Triangle with mouth-like semi circle inside. Home: Void Alignment: Chaotic Neutral Domain - Trickery Portfolio - Deceit, Seduction, and Wit Worshipers: Con men, seducers, and flatterers Favored Weapon: Razor Wit - Rapier Avatar: He appears it whatever form the local populace has. However, he always appears as an incredibly beautiful androgynous being, whose sex is questionable. He always pays attention to what is most fashionable for the populace, and wears only the most fashionable clothes. [22]Father Blight (Dead) [DR:11] Intermediate Deity, Cleric 20, rogue 15, [AP:4] Symbol: A gold ring Home: Void Alignment: Chaotic Evil Domains: Pestilance, Vile Darkness, Madness Portfolio: Sickness, monsters, challanges, danger, threats, evolution of good, degridation of evil. Worshipers: Blighters, rogues, cultists, (dogma has little apeal to most evil creatures) Favored Weapon: Thrusting hand (punching dagger) Avatar: Humanoid dressed in smart and neat black clothes that are at the height of fashion in the area, Left half handsom but cold with sholder length black hair, blue eye and neat moustash, right half degraded rotting slime and puss covered body with a white eye and stingy grey hair. Right hand is gloved. Creatures Created: Dopplegangers, Hags, Goblins, Rakshasa, Derro 23]NAME: Ooulzoth He-who-Hungers, The Faceless Lord, Lord of Nothing,… [DR:18] Intermediate Deity, Cleric20/Oozemaster15, [AP:9] Symbol:A Worm with tentacles. Home: Void Alignment: Neutral Evil (maybe a bit to the chaotic) Domains: Hunger, Slime, Destruction Portfolio: hunger, slimes, oozes, jellies Worshipers: (anyone foolish enough) Favored Weapon:Tentacle or Pseudopod or Artifact Symbiotes Avatar:It looks like a giant worm with tentacles. It's skin is made out of a black an purple looking crust, whitch constantly shifts and cracks, and oozes out green slime.Thousands of small eyes cover it’s body. On it’s back are several volcano-like structures that constantly emit a purple black cloud of spores. Another form is that of a faceless humanoid made entirely of ooze and slime. It has tendrils and tentacles for hair. He wears several symbiotes, a red gauntlet on his right hand, a dark tentacled bracer on his left, a dark armor with a hive like structure and 2 worm tentacles. He also has a mask that also has no face on it. Creatures Created: Demodands, kythons, tsochar, neogi, chuul, grell, Void ships, Voidlings, mindflayers of Thoon [24]Britmara [DR: 4] demi-deity Crusader level 30 Symbol: A small bird perched atop a upright sword's point, against a background formed by an azure shield clustered with seven silver stars. Home: Haven Alignment: Neutral Good [leaning toward LG] Domain: Courage Portfolio: courage , hope, defense of the weak and the innocent Worshippers: good folk beset by evil, soldiers entering righteous battle, crusaders and zealots who oppose evil Favored weapon: Merciful Stroke[bastard sword] Avatar: Her avatar appears as a female humanoid , beautiful and athletic with a celestial aura about her. She wears partial plate and mail armor of graceful and lightweight design. A shield is strapped on her left arm. She carries a sword at her side. [Think of the MM1 image of the ghaele eladrin, that's close]. Creatures Created: Lupins [25]NAME:Therias Lord of Trade, Coin's Soul [DR:6] wizard5/expert10/fighter10 Symbol: A coin with a ship engraving. Home: Void Alignment: Neutral Domains: Commerce [I think its called that] Portfolio: Trade, traders, economy in general Worshipers:Merchants, caravanists Favored Weapon: Light Crossbow Avatar: A tall middle-aged man with eerie eyes. (The eyeballs are shaped like coins.) He wears richly embroidered clothes. [26]NAME: Mirath Nirik (Missing) Thought Seer, The Mind Bender. [DR:6] Lesser Diety, Psion 20/Mindspy 10 Symbol: A green spark shaped like a circle on a purple backround. Home: Void Alignment: Chaotic Neutral Domains: Mind Portfolio: Psions, Refugees Worshipers:- Psions, Psychic Monsters Favored Weapon: His Mind Avatar:- A young man, slightly tanned, wearing leather pants and many belts. He has no hair and a green tatoo on his face. [27] NAME: Sage [DR: 6] Lesser Deity: Illusionist 20 / Psion 7 / Loremaster 7 Symbol: A metal anulis Home: Disc City (sort of) Alignment: Lawful Good Domains: Illusion, Knowledge Portfolio: illusion magic, psionics, science, lore Worshipers: natural philosophers, sane psions, some humans Favored Weapon: AMMA-61 Disruption Rod (quarterstaff) Avatar: A hovering, holographic human face made up of numerous transcluscent spheres. He can also speak through his old body in Disc City, which is a metal cube covered in interface modules, plasma screen moniters, and microholoprojectors. Creatures Created: -automatons,clockroaches [28]Selevern The Bloodborn, Freedom-Giver, Elf-Father [DvR 16] Rogue 20/Dread Commando 14/ Incarnate 2 AP:3 Home: Prime Material Alignment: Neutral Good Symbol: A Longsword breaking a Chain Domains:Freedom, Elf, Courage, Transformation, Incarnum Portfolio: Gurrellia Tatics, Defending the Weak, Freedom from Tyrants, Elves Worshippers: Rebels, Gurrellia Fighters,Elves Favored Weapon: The Strike of Freedom(Longsword) Avatar: An Elven man clad in full breastplate with blood red cloth covering the leggings and bright red hair. Spcies crated:elves, some kind of magical giants[name?] [29] Tanner The Chrysallis, The Clay, He who Causes Ripples in the Pond [DR:6] Transmuter 17 (Prohibited: Enchantment and Necromancy)/Egoist 12/Rogue3/Cleric 2 Symbol: Butterfly Home: Refuge (for now) Alignment: Chaotic Neutral Domains: Transformation Portfolio: Evolution of creatures Worshipers: Transmuter, philanderers, scholars (those concerned with evolution), egoists Favored Weapon: Whip or Natural Weapon Avatar: A humanoid of whatever is most adaptable to the reigon, constantly adapting to the new environment, such as suddenly the ears becomeing more elf like, or a nose becoming orcish when a good smell comes by then returning to a human nose, hair color changing, switching from male to female or vice versa, etc. Normally dressed in a white coat, though occasionally dressed in mage's attire or an open vest. Species created: Cactacae, Magebred animals, Grindylow, Changelings (30) Celeste The Daughter of the Sun setting over the Sea [DR 6] Lesser Deity, Sorceress/Bard 30 Symbol: A stylized rose in full bloom Home: Celestri Alignment: Chaotic good Domain: Charm Portfolio: Love, romance, passion, mind-affecting enchantments Worshippers: Seekers of romance, enchanters Favored weapon: Piercing Desire (Longbow and arrows) Avatar: Celeste appears as a young, radiant woman of elven or human descent. She has merry blue eyes and red hair that bears hues of the setting sun. She carries a lute carved of the finest heartwood and wears a red oak bow as well as a quiver filled with arrows. Creatures Created: Nymphs (31)Nequelleden Artificer 20 [DR:11] Gallow's Queen The Hidden one Symbol: a pure white feather dripping poison into a pool of blood Home:Hidden Paradise Alignment: neutral evil Domain - Evil,Wrath Portfolio - poison,evil alchemists,execution Worshipers: evil creatures/ executioners/ poisonmakers/ evil alchemists Favored Weapon:The Gallow's embrace (exotic poison) Avatar:a hauntingly beautiful woman with flowing red hair with a black silk robe holding a silver goblet overflowing with blood
riverrock 07-31-07, 06:30 PM	Well, theres a waiting list; Delfedd's friend for halflings, my friend for gnomes, and me for gnomes if my friend doesn't want to do gnomes. But there has been a few healing gods. Neither lasted long. (the reborn version of the guy Morintu smote with his gullet and Blight.) There has only ever been one god of Healing, Pholtone, who is now deceased. Neither of the gods you referenced ever had the healing domain. The first never actually existed, as he was not approved. Blight never got the healing domain, as his single action did not warrant getting the domain.
Zebppir 07-31-07, 06:41 PM	There has only ever been one god of Healing, Pholtone, who is now deceased. Neither of the gods you referenced ever had the healing domain. The first never actually existed, as he was not approved. Blight never got the healing domain, as his single action did not warrant getting the domain. yes the concept is dibbed
Zebppir 07-31-07, 06:43 PM	There has only ever been one god of Healing, Pholtone, who is now deceased. Neither of the gods you referenced ever had the healing domain. The first never actually existed, as he was not approved. Blight never got the healing domain, as his single action did not warrant getting the domain. you're back riverrock :clap:
d24478667 07-31-07, 07:22 PM	My apologies for my erroneous statement.
ewancummins 07-31-07, 08:49 PM	This is partially updated now. It is still behind. Please list what you need updated, and I will do so. For example, Alusia isn't a lesser deity anymore. Morintu is LE now, yes? Unlisted gods should be posted below. I will then edit and repost the whole thing. [1] Absaul-rote (Missing) the storyteller [DR:50] Supreme Deity, Bard35/Monk15, [AP:6] Symbol: Quill Home: Void Alignment: Neutral Domains: Creation, Time, Fire, Sun, Cold, Darkness Portfolio: Worshipers: Favored Weapon: Quill (longsword) Avatar: Travelling Storyteller [2] Amon (Dead) [DvR 20] Greater Deity, Cleric/Paladin 47, [AP:6] Symbol: White Staff Home: Haven Alignment: Lawful Neutral Domains: Law, Fate, Good, Knowledge, Death, Dwarf, Dwarf Portfolio: Order, Good, Wisdom, Heroes Worshipers: druids, nomads, scholars, kings, judges, philosophers, paladins, monks, wizards Favored Weapon: Spear of Fate Avatar: An old soldier Species Created: Lung, Merfolk, Titans, Dwarves, Runebound [3] Ahuizotl (Missing) the sleeping god, the man on the moon He who cleaved the world in two [DvR 16] Greater Deity, Barbarian 20/Fighter 20, [AP:5] Symbol: A double-bladed axe Home: pending; (Plane of Light,moon) Alignment: Chaotic Domains: Chaos, Battle, Plants, Moon Portfolio: Chaos Worshipers: Barbarians, Mercenaries, Bandits, Favored Weapon: "Bloodseeker" an obsidian-edged greataxe Avatar: A powerfully built humanoid with the head and fur of a black panther, wearing ornate gold breastplate and wielding a giant-sized axe. Spceis created: protean plants, ahuizotls [4] Kur-ah (Dead) He who saw, Furnace of Foresight [DvR 16] Greater Deity, Druid 20/Wizard (Diviner) 20 Symbol: A heart of molten stone Home: Void Alignment: True Neutral Domains: Fire, Earth, Rune, Knowledge, Dragons Portfolio: Fire, Magma, Earth, Prophecy Worshipers: Druids, Seers, Doomsayers, Dragons Favored Weapon: "The Rock and The Flame" Dire Flail, one stone head, one burning head. Avatar: The shape of an elderly man with beard and wearing robes that are made out of stone. His mouth and eyes glow with the intence fire that is the heart of the world. He has a gaping hole in his chest that shines with the purple light of magic. Species Created: Dragons, Minotaurs, Centaurs, Keepers, Rilmani, Azer, nerra, elemental weirds [5] Arteheyn the River Maiden [DvR 16] Greater Deity, Druid 21 Cleric 20 [AP7] Symbol: a silver scaled fish, a green snake, or a stylized icon depicting a blue river against a green background[ rectangle crossed by a snaking blue line] Home: Earth, Arteheyn's Garden Alignment:Neutral Domains: Water, Animals, Community, Weather, Plants, Spider Portfolio: precipitation , nourishment of living things, rivers Worshipers: farmers, herders , river folk, minotaurs, myconids Favored Weapon: Flail of Sundering[ heavy flail] Avatar: She appears as a fair young woman, clad in simple garb of blue or green. She is barefoot, and leaves watery tracks behind herself. Her silvery hair flows as if she were floating in a stream. Species Created: Tritons, Coautls, Tendriculos, Assassin Vines, Animals and Plants, Oceanic Creatures, Dragons, Desert Plants, Sauguaro Sentinels, myconids, chevalls, Animal Lords, Spiders, mortai, dire animals, giant bugs[ants, bees, etc.], ankhegs, basilisks, dragonnes, shocker lizards, fungoid guardian species[violet fungi, phantom fungi, basidironds, ascomoids], minor deaths, ettercaps, actaeons, talking beasts ,water elementals, cryions, golems,aurumvoraxes [6] Morintu Skylord [DvR 20] Greater Deity, Monk/Druid 41 [AP:6] Symbol: The thousand chains Home: Plane of Air Alignment: Lawful Neutral Domains: Air, Storm, Law, Dragons, Undeath, Fury, Death, Earth Portfolio: Weather, Justice, the Undead Worshipers: Sailors, Druids, Judges, Astrologers, Dragons Favored Weapon: Shackles of Justice (A series of chains which tie him to the stars.) Avatar: A Bipedal, winged Lion with the head of a serpent and hands of a Man. He has a great, whipping serpent's tail. His chains bind him to the universe. He drifts through the world like a dust mote on the wind. Species Created: Vaati, Dragons, Inevitables, Djini, Undead, Liches, Death Knights, Devils, Mummies, Ghouls, Ghasts, Kobolds,gnomes,earth elemntals, air elementals, dretches, abel and abeloks, halflings [7] Ry'theal (Dead) [DR:12] Intermediate Deity, Duskblade 21/Fighter 15, [AP:4] Symbol: A Sun Shining Above a Plateau Home: The Sun Alignment: Chaotic Good Domains: Sun, Pride, Freedom, Protection Portfolio: Worshipers: Warriors Favored Weapon: Ray of Light(Spear) Avatar: An almost dog-like biped, with opposable thumbs, but paws for feet. His fur color is dirty blonde, and instead of a dog face there is one much like an elf, but with two tiny horns on top of his head. Species Created: Solanthi, ramdeen, sun-trees [8] Lexius the Blue [Dvr16] Greater Deity , Wizard 19 Spellthief15 [AP:7] Symbol: Upside-down Crescent Moon, vertically upon that is a maul. Home: Paradise Alignment: Neutral good Domains: Magic, Moon, Liberation, Madness Portfolio: Arcane Magic Worshippers: Wizards, Sorcerers, Ezera, Favored Weapon: Unstoppable Might of Magic (Maul) Avatar: Bipedal Hawlklike Creature, wearing robes, with a maul apon his back Species created: ezera [9] NAME: Akhier (Missing) [DR:9] Lesser Deity, Sorc/psion seer 30 Battle Sorc/Pyrokineticist 4 [AP:7] Symbol: a sideways hourglass Home: Reehier (giant tree) Alignment: Chaotic Neutral Domains: Time, Glory, Portfolio: Worshipers: Seers, Psions, Ystalhier Favored Weapon: staff of the day(a crystal quarterstaff with flaming burst on both ends) Avatar: a constantly changing fluid crystals in the shape of a man that has a warm glow radiating out from him with eyes like 2 suns of intense fire [10] Kersys (Missing) [DR:6] Lesser Deity, Beguiler 20/Swordsage 14 Symbol: A sphere of darkness with an inscribed hourglass, half-filled on each side. Home: Earth Alignment: Lawful Neutral Domains: Time, Darkness Portfolio: Time, night, darkness Worshipers: Rogues, beguilers, thieves, (any that operate by night) Favored Weapon: Nightbringer (two-bladed sword) Avatar: The Night Within: A humanoid form wearing entirely black, almost made out of the substance of darkness and the night sky. In the middle of his back the phases of the moon are inscribed as if they were carved into his very substance. His eyes reflect the night sky, but he has no other facial features. Species Created: Rodents, Dusklings [11] Frostbite [DR]:12 Intermediate Deity Druid 15/Totemist15 [AP:5] Symbol: A white rose on a Snowflake Home: Earth Alignment: Chaotic Good Domain: Winter, Community, Cold Portfolio: Frost, Cold, Community Worshippers: Frost Mages, Arctic Peoples Favored Weapon: Glacieso's Eye (Bow) Avatar:White dragon, with icy wings, teeth, and claws. Species Created: Arctic Rose Lizardfolk, Woodlings, Thrym hounds [12] Kyrinian DR [6] Lesser Deity, Barbarian 14/Ranger 14 Symbol: A red spear striking a green circle and a waning blue crescent Home: Earth Alignment: Chaotic Neutral Domains: Summer, Dream Portfolio: Summer, Moon Worshippers: Favored Weapon: Sword of Summer's Strike (Greatsword) Avatar: A humanoid with the lower body of a wolf, and the upper body of a young man with red hair, green eyes, and the antlers of a deer. His torso is covered with green streaks that that grow and shimmer. Creatures Created: Nereids, Dryads, Glitterhaunts, Lycanthropes, Nightmares, Unicorns, Eladrin, Salamanders, succubi, harpies [13] Name: K’Thymon The Scaled One (Missing) [DR 11] Intermediate Deity Sorcerer 20/Barbarian 21 Home: The Mountains by the Chasm Alignment: Neutral Domains: Dragons Portfolio: Dragons, mountains, fire. Worshippers: Dragons, sorcerers, sentient reptiles, sometimes barbarians. Favored Weapon: Iron Claw (Greatsword) Avatar: A scaled humanoid, wiry and tall (just below Large sized) with scales of many colors, a greatsword strung across his back, and a black robe, and similar eyes that seem to look through everything instead of at it. [14] Glykllivar the sailor, empress of the deep [DvR: 16] Intermediate Deity, Ranger 20/Druid 21 Symbol: a blank flag Home: Lahach Alignment: Chaotic Good Domains: Ocean, Travel, Protection Portfolio: sailors, aquatic beings, the sea in general, etc. Worshipers: Seamen, fishermen, aquatic beings Favored Weapon: a barbed longspear Avatar: A beautiful brown haired female humanoid in naval dress (the sailor), or a bluish female torso with an eel’s head (empress of the deep) Species Created: Dragon Turtles, Sea Giants, Morkoths, Ocean Giants, Sea Elves, [15]NAME: Pholtone (Dead) [DR:11] Intermediate Deity, rogue 20/ ninja 15 [4 AP] Symbol: a hand grasping a red orb Home: plane of light Alignment: Chaotic Neutral Domains: Chaos, Moon, Healing Portfolio:chaos, light, moon Worshipers: barbarians, mercenaries, Favored Weapon: the fingernail (kukri) Avatar: a creature (the most common race in the area) with a large hand and a wrist instead of a head and a neck Creatures Created: Athachs, Slaad [16] Kakavindus (Missing) The False Dragon [DvR: 16] Greater Deity, Rogue 20/Wizard 20 [AP: 8] Symbol: Black four-pointed star Home: Karkeri (Plane of Evil) Alignment: Neutral Evil Domains: Evil, Destruction Portfolio: Violence, all manner of evil Worshippers: Evil creatures, some Wind Dukes, Worgs, Yugoloths Favored weapon: “Corrupting Edge,” a poisoned falchion Avatar: A dark humanoid possessing the face and claws of a wolf, the wings of a black dragon, and a reptilian tail tipped with a stinger. Creatures Created: Worgs, Yugoloths, Gnolls [17] Alusia The Golden Lady, Watcher of Creation [DR:21] Supreme deity, Warblade 30 [AP:10] Symbol: A broken sword Home: Gorgild Alignment: Lawful Neutral Domain: Wrath, Retribution, Fire, Creation Portfolio: - Worshippers: None Favored weapon: The Quill of Creation (Longsword) Avatar: The avatar of Alusia is a white-skinned humanoid female clad in golden flowing garments. Golden light pours from eyes like pools of mercury and golden steam wafts from her nose and mouth. Creatures Created: MM Angels, Werelions, Hobgoblins, Vengeance Fey, Fire Elementals [18] NAME: Avnuk (Dead) [DR: 6] Lesser Deity, Wizard 24 / Psion (savant) 10 Symbol: A skull of a dragon, with Bright red eyes Home: Anacrix Alignment: Neutral Domains: Necromancy, Deathbound Portfolio: Death, Undeath, Power, Corruption Worshipers: Necromancers, Cultists Favored Weapon: Reach Of Corruption (staff) Avatar: A young, pale, Black robed man with one bright red eye and a skeletal hand. Creatures Created: Vampires [19] NAME: Kethvok (Missing) [DR: 11] Intermediate Deity, fighter 30 / assassin 8 Symbol: Two axes forming a cross, in front of a broken shield Home: Void Alignment: Evil Domains: War, Hatred Portfolio: Death, Destruction, War Worshipers: Warriors Favored Weapon: Fanged Slayer (Claymore) Avatar: A large Male orc, with numerous scars all over his body. He wears tough leather armor, adorned with the skulls of various creatures Creatures Created: Orcs [20] Name: Elvunil (Missing) [DR:15] Intermediate Deity, Bard30/Monk10, [AP:4] Symbol: A red book, with a white eye in the center Home: Void Alignment: Neutral Domains: Pact, Oracle Portfolio: The future, present, and past, alliances Worshipers: Sages, and knowledge seekers. Favored Weapon: the Fist Avatar: Travelling Monk. Long white hair, and deep blue eyes and a look of knowledge on his face. [21]Corwyn (Missing) [DR:6] Gestalt Rogue/Sorc 30 Symbol: Golden Triangle with mouth-like semi circle inside. Home: Void Alignment: Chaotic Neutral Domain - Trickery Portfolio - Deceit, Seduction, and Wit Worshipers: Con men, seducers, and flatterers Favored Weapon: Razor Wit - Rapier Avatar: He appears it whatever form the local populace has. However, he always appears as an incredibly beautiful androgynous being, whose sex is questionable. He always pays attention to what is most fashionable for the populace, and wears only the most fashionable clothes. [22]Father Blight (Dead) [DR:11] Intermediate Deity, Cleric 20, rogue 15, [AP:4] Symbol: A gold ring Home: Void Alignment: Chaotic Evil Domains: Pestilance, Vile Darkness, Madness Portfolio: Sickness, monsters, challanges, danger, threats, evolution of good, degridation of evil. Worshipers: Blighters, rogues, cultists, (dogma has little apeal to most evil creatures) Favored Weapon: Thrusting hand (punching dagger) Avatar: Humanoid dressed in smart and neat black clothes that are at the height of fashion in the area, Left half handsom but cold with sholder length black hair, blue eye and neat moustash, right half degraded rotting slime and puss covered body with a white eye and stingy grey hair. Right hand is gloved. Creatures Created: Dopplegangers, Hags, Goblins, Rakshasa, Derro 23]NAME: Ooulzoth He-who-Hungers, The Faceless Lord, Lord of Nothing,… [DR:18] Intermediate Deity, Cleric20/Oozemaster15, [AP:9] Symbol:A Worm with tentacles. Home: Void Alignment: Neutral Evil (maybe a bit to the chaotic) Domains: Hunger, Slime, Destruction Portfolio: hunger, slimes, oozes, jellies Worshipers: (anyone foolish enough) Favored Weapon:Tentacle or Pseudopod or Artifact Symbiotes Avatar:It looks like a giant worm with tentacles. It's skin is made out of a black an purple looking crust, whitch constantly shifts and cracks, and oozes out green slime.Thousands of small eyes cover it’s body. On it’s back are several volcano-like structures that constantly emit a purple black cloud of spores. Another form is that of a faceless humanoid made entirely of ooze and slime. It has tendrils and tentacles for hair. He wears several symbiotes, a red gauntlet on his right hand, a dark tentacled bracer on his left, a dark armor with a hive like structure and 2 worm tentacles. He also has a mask that also has no face on it. Creatures Created: Demodands, kythons, tsochar, neogi, chuul, grell, Void ships, Voidlings, mindflayers of Thoon [24]Britmara [DR: 4] demi-deity Crusader level 30 Symbol: A small bird perched atop a upright sword's point, against a background formed by an azure shield clustered with seven silver stars. Home: Haven Alignment: Neutral Good [leaning toward LG] Domain: Courage Portfolio: courage , hope, defense of the weak and the innocent Worshippers: good folk beset by evil, soldiers entering righteous battle, crusaders and zealots who oppose evil Favored weapon: Merciful Stroke[bastard sword] Avatar: Her avatar appears as a female humanoid , beautiful and athletic with a celestial aura about her. She wears partial plate and mail armor of graceful and lightweight design. A shield is strapped on her left arm. She carries a sword at her side. [Think of the MM1 image of the ghaele eladrin, that's close]. Creatures Created: Lupins, Havenite Harriers [Arcadian Avengers] [25]NAME:Therias Lord of Trade, Coin's Soul [DR:6] wizard5/expert10/fighter10 Symbol: A coin with a ship engraving. Home: Void Alignment: Neutral Domains: Commerce [I think its called that] Portfolio: Trade, traders, economy in general Worshipers:Merchants, caravanists Favored Weapon: Light Crossbow Avatar: A tall middle-aged man with eerie eyes. (The eyeballs are shaped like coins.) He wears richly embroidered clothes. [26]NAME: Mirath Nirik (Missing) Thought Seer, The Mind Bender. [DR:6] Lesser Diety, Psion 20/Mindspy 10 Symbol: A green spark shaped like a circle on a purple backround. Home: Void Alignment: Chaotic Neutral Domains: Mind Portfolio: Psions, Refugees Worshipers:- Psions, Psychic Monsters Favored Weapon: His Mind Avatar:- A young man, slightly tanned, wearing leather pants and many belts. He has no hair and a green tatoo on his face. [27] NAME: Sage [DR: 6] Lesser Deity: Illusionist 20 / Psion 7 / Loremaster 7 Symbol: A metal anulis Home: Disc City (sort of) Alignment: Lawful Good Domains: Illusion, Knowledge Portfolio: illusion magic, psionics, science, lore Worshipers: natural philosophers, sane psions, some humans Favored Weapon: AMMA-61 Disruption Rod (quarterstaff) Avatar: A hovering, holographic human face made up of numerous transcluscent spheres. He can also speak through his old body in Disc City, which is a metal cube covered in interface modules, plasma screen moniters, and microholoprojectors. Creatures Created: -automatons,clockroaches, gith [28]Selevern The Bloodborn, Freedom-Giver, Elf-Father [DvR 16] Rogue 20/Dread Commando 14/ Incarnate 2 AP:6 Home: Prime Material Alignment: Neutral Good Symbol: A Longsword breaking a Chain Domains:Freedom, Elf, Courage, Transformation, Incarnum Portfolio: Gurrellia Tatics, Defending the Weak, Freedom from Tyrants, Elves Worshippers: Rebels, Gurrellia Fighters,Elves Favored Weapon: The Strike of Freedom(Longsword) Avatar: An Elven man clad in full breastplate with blood red cloth covering the leggings and bright red hair. Spcies crated:elves, some kind of magical giants[name?] [29] Tanner The Chrysallis, The Clay, He who Causes Ripples in the Pond [DR:6] Transmuter 17 (Prohibited: Enchantment and Necromancy)/Egoist 12/Rogue3/Cleric 2 Symbol: Butterfly Home: Refuge (for now) Alignment: Chaotic Neutral Domains: Transformation Portfolio: Evolution of creatures Worshipers: Transmuter, philanderers, scholars (those concerned with evolution), egoists Favored Weapon: Whip or Natural Weapon Avatar: A humanoid of whatever is most adaptable to the reigon, constantly adapting to the new environment, such as suddenly the ears becomeing more elf like, or a nose becoming orcish when a good smell comes by then returning to a human nose, hair color changing, switching from male to female or vice versa, etc. Normally dressed in a white coat, though occasionally dressed in mage's attire or an open vest. Species created: Cactacae, Magebred animals, Grindylow, Changelings (30) Celeste The Daughter of the Sun setting over the Sea [DR 6] Lesser Deity, Sorceress/Bard 30 Symbol: A stylized rose in full bloom Home: Celestri Alignment: Chaotic good Domain: Charm Portfolio: Love, romance, passion, mind-affecting enchantments Worshippers: Seekers of romance, enchanters Favored weapon: Piercing Desire (Longbow and arrows) Avatar: Celeste appears as a young, radiant woman of elven or human descent. She has merry blue eyes and red hair that bears hues of the setting sun. She carries a lute carved of the finest heartwood and wears a red oak bow as well as a quiver filled with arrows. Creatures Created: Nymphs (31)Nequelleden Artificer 20 [DR:11], intermediate deity, Gallow's Queen The Hidden one , AP4 Symbol: a pure white feather dripping poison into a pool of blood Home:Hidden Paradise Alignment: neutral evil Domain - Evil,Wrath Portfolio - poison,evil alchemists,execution Worshipers: evil creatures/ executioners/ poisonmakers/ evil alchemists Favored Weapon:The Gallow's embrace (exotic poison) Avatar:a hauntingly beautiful woman with flowing red hair with a black silk robe holding a silver goblet overflowing with blood [32] Auranis DR: 6, Lesser Diety , Wizard 20/Elemental Savant 14 AP=3 Symbol: A gnome with a circle depicting the elements of air, fire, water, and earth. Home: The void Alignment: Neutral Domains: Gnome Portfolio: Gnomes Worshipers: Gnomes Favored Weapon: Dagger (will be updated if he makes his own weapon) Species created: Genasi [33] Rillmar DR: 6, Fighter 34 AP3 Symbol: Three swords forming a triangle, in the middle is a shield Home: The void Alignment: Lawful Evil Domains: Halfling Portfolio: Halflings Worshipers: Halflings, warriors Favored Weapon: Longsword
d24478667 07-31-07, 08:52 PM	Frostbite's Symbol: A white rose on a Snowflake. DvR=12, and he is now intermediate. AP=5
ewancummins 07-31-07, 08:56 PM	Updated! Riverrock, are you actually back? That would rock.
d24478667 07-31-07, 09:20 PM	AP is 5, not 4. I made a typo in the original post.
ewancummins 07-31-07, 09:30 PM	Okay, I fixed that for you.
d24478667 07-31-07, 11:07 PM	Sorry if I'm being a bother. Also, Arctic Rose has 2 c's in Arctic.
ewancummins 07-31-07, 11:41 PM	No problem. I fixed that for you. I sometimes miss typos- especially with a big cut and paste job.
d24478667 07-31-07, 11:48 PM	Thanks, thats all for now.
ewancummins 08-01-07, 12:17 AM	Kirt, I like what you and Delfedd are doing with the Hands of Freedom and their land. I've thrown in a bit of stuff, as well. Fists of Freedom are vigilante militia who don't trust the current government, but hate the Morintuists just as much as the next loyal citizen.
Kirtanus_Albacron 08-01-07, 12:22 AM	Cool, and anyways, could you update Selevern's description? He has six AP instead of 3.
ewancummins 08-01-07, 12:28 AM	Done. :)
ewancummins 08-01-07, 11:49 PM	Must go to sleep now. Will check the threads tomorrow. Have a good night, guys. PS-Stuffed dragonne toy!
Return of the Flumph 08-02-07, 04:05 AM	Sorry for dropping out of the loop again. I'll try to catch up. Delfedd, about the adventurers I mentioned. I was originally going to covertly have Riverrock post their actions (much as you originally did with the Regalia), and thus I hid several preperatory actions (on which AP was spent) that I only told him. Since Riverrock is not going to be able to do this, here's the whole story. Glykllivar created an avatar, which is aiding the adventurers and keeping them from becoming too well known. She also created an artifact of their own; a magical hammer that is designed to destroy other artifacts. One item at a time, she's been sneaking the mortals around the world and covertly destroying parts of the Regalia, using a mixture of enchantment spells, decoys, diversions, and other ploys to keep the pattern hidden. A total of 6 AP has been spent on the project thus far (3 for the avatar, 3 for the hammer, which is in Glykllivar's possession). Now, if you have any objections, rules, etc in mind, we'll discuss them.
Delfedd 08-02-07, 11:24 AM	Yeah... Each one of the artifacts is held by a powerful leader, not just lying around, or sitting in the hands of some commoner. They're held by the masters. Here's the other thing. The artifacts are part of the nine. Without the artifacts that created them, that portion of the nine will perish. I've had some ideas for the future, and your artifact will help with the story here.
kiatoso 08-02-07, 03:23 PM	Hey guys! I'm Delfedd's friend. I have decided to choose the gnome god rather than the halfing god. I hope to have fun in the thread!
d24478667 08-02-07, 03:51 PM	Well, my friend doesn't want to do gnomes; I'll make a gnome god soon. Edit: Or not, as Delfedd's friend decided to switch, even though there was a waiting list for the gnome god.
kiatoso 08-02-07, 04:29 PM	Oh...well him and I were just making adjustments on the LOC map because he just made the gnomes and halflings about a month ago . He put in the Gnome states but hasent gotten a chance to load it on. As for the gnome god name, I'm kindof confused because I am new. Do I make up the gods name or does someone else?
d24478667 08-02-07, 04:38 PM	You decide the name. I am confused though; what does making the map have to do with skipping the people who are in line for the gnome god?
Delfedd 08-02-07, 07:26 PM	Well, I'm the ultimate decider as to who gets the Gnome Domain, so my word if final. *Shrug* But yeah, I did upload the map.
d24478667 08-02-07, 07:35 PM	No, actually its your decision if you get the gnome domain. Once you pass it on, there's a waiting list. Thats how its been since the beginning of the game.
Zebppir 08-02-07, 08:10 PM	Hey guys! I'm Delfedd's friend. I have decided to choose the gnome god rather than the halfing god. I hope to have fun in the thread! yeah! I'm not a newbie anymore:D you will plus newbies totally have to stick together
Zebppir 08-02-07, 08:11 PM	new divine month??? does this mean I get my AP back????
d24478667 08-02-07, 08:14 PM	Yeah.
kiatoso 08-02-07, 08:55 PM	I didn't know I would cause this much trouble, but if someone else wants it's fine with me. Is there a waiting list for the Halfling god though. If there isn't, can I get Him/Her
ewancummins 08-02-07, 10:46 PM	I am handling Riverrock's former responsibilities, including new gods. Kiatoso has stated he is happy taking the Halfling slot. That's fair, it keeps the waiting list system going as before, and it brings in a new player. Any objections?
d24478667 08-02-07, 10:57 PM	Nope. Kiatoso, I'm sorry if I came over as a bit aggressive, but I was next in line for the gnome god, and I was getting ahead of myself and making plans. If its all right with Ewancummins, I would like to play the gnome god; just a final check.
ewancummins 08-02-07, 11:01 PM	Thank you both for being civil. The halfing god will go to Kiatso, then. The gnome god will go to d24478667. If you are both happy with this, I will give you the info on your starting divine ranks, total class levels, etc.
d24478667 08-02-07, 11:06 PM	I am happy with this.
ewancummins 08-02-07, 11:20 PM	I suppose either demi or lesser gods would make the most sense. Unless you'd prefer demigods, i think lessers would be fine [it's late in the game, anyway, and there isn't much danger of serious DVR inflation at this point]. You guys would each have: Lesser Deity Div Rank: 6 Max Class lvl: 34 Domains: 1[ Kiatso gets Halfling as his single domain, d## gets Gnome] Base Action Points: 3 Any alignment is possible, but keep in mind the nature of the two races in this CS is VERY different from their usual treatment in D&D. When you have completed your gods, please PM them to me or post them on this OOC thread. Once they are approved, you can begin play immediately. I will then add them both to the listing of gods.
d24478667 08-03-07, 12:13 AM	Auranis DR: 6, Wizard 20/Elemental Savant 14 Symbol: A gnome with a circle depicting the elements of air, fire, water, and earth. Home: The void Alignment: Neutral Domains: Gnome Portfolio: Gnomes Worshipers: Gnomes Favored Weapon: Dagger (will be updated if he makes his own weapon)
ewancummins 08-03-07, 12:17 AM	Looks fine to me. When would you like to introduce him into play?
d24478667 08-03-07, 12:26 AM	Right now if possible.
ewancummins 08-03-07, 12:40 AM	Do it.
kiatoso 08-03-07, 08:50 AM	Alright, so I have the halfling god, that's cool. Delfedd will explain everything to me. I think we still need to put the Halfling country on the map.
d24478667 08-03-07, 09:29 AM	Auranis' lab is indeed on earth; its in the gnome city.
ewancummins 08-03-07, 09:30 AM	Halflings live in part of the Great Rift, don't they? I have to go to work in a few minutes. d####, I'll continue the conversation between Arteheyn and Auranis later. Hope everybody has a good day.
d24478667 08-03-07, 09:35 AM	Okay, 'see' ya later.
Delfedd 08-03-07, 11:28 AM	Aaah... yeah... all gnomes are lawful evil. If you're playing a neutral gnome, you're not a gnome god at all.
d24478667 08-03-07, 11:37 AM	Umm, no I didn't realize that. I'll change it. My apologies. Also, there is always an exception. Even celestials and fiends are 'always so-and-so' but there are exceptions for those. Perhaps this gnome just took some characteristics of the elementals he works with? Note: I will still change to LE, just pointing out that TN would still be somewhat viable. Also, I have plans that may or may not suitably define LE in your opinion.
Delfedd 08-03-07, 02:07 PM	TN wouldn't be viable if you want to be worshiped. :P Thank you. Could you tell me some of your plans through PM? or the jist of them. i'll help you make them eviler Also, what happened to your friends?
d24478667 08-03-07, 02:12 PM	Ya know, I didn't think of that. (the friends part.)
kiatoso 08-03-07, 02:15 PM	Rillmar DR: 6, Fighter 34 Symbol: Three swords forming a triangle, in the middle is a shield Home: The void Alignment: Lawful Evil Domains: Halfling Portfolio: Halflings Worshipers: Halflings, warriors Favored Weapon: Longsword
Zebppir 08-03-07, 06:28 PM	TN wouldn't be viable if you want to be worshiped. :P Thank you. Could you tell me some of your plans through PM? or the jist of them. i'll help you make them eviler Also, what happened to your friends? could I PM you delfedd?? I need your co-operation on something :love: Zebppir
Delfedd 08-03-07, 06:41 PM	Go for it.
ewancummins 08-03-07, 07:48 PM	LE does make more sense for the god of the Ascended. It also presents ZERO problem to Arteheyn. She doesn't care if you are evil. ;) I had her mention Enfermia to be respectful to Morintu. As the creator of the race, his faction/pact/alliance/whatever should receive due consideration. No reason Auranis couldn't join both pacts. Or he could go for neither. Free will, right?
ewancummins 08-03-07, 07:48 PM	Rillmar is approved.
ewancummins 08-03-07, 11:39 PM	I updated the list to include the new gods. Page 100. That should be easy to remember.
d24478667 08-04-07, 10:38 AM	Just change Auranis' alignment to LE and his home to Auranis' Lab, please.
Delfedd 08-04-07, 11:17 AM	I'm thinking that maybe we should start a new Thread, and That ewan should start it. You know, put up the rules, then the gods. Maybe you could put the active gods in bold or something?
d24478667 08-04-07, 11:21 AM	That does make sense. But, Delfedd, I just want to make sure that Auranis' plans are up to par (for LE); are they?
Delfedd 08-04-07, 01:10 PM	Well... you didn't exactly tell me your plans...
d24478667 08-04-07, 01:14 PM	Exactly! The epitome of lawful evilness!
Delfedd 08-04-07, 01:15 PM	Not really.
d24478667 08-04-07, 01:16 PM	The last post was a joke, you know...
Delfedd 08-04-07, 01:17 PM	Yes.
alchemyprime 08-04-07, 08:12 PM	Well, unbeknownst to me until about five minutes ago, we have other Doctor Who fans... so as long as no one utters the words "Time Lord", I think my last create race will be fine... <.< >.> Okay... this may not end well for old Tanner...
ewancummins 08-05-07, 12:13 AM	I certainly can put up a new thread, if that is what everyone would like. Let's let the rest of the guys have a chance to weigh in on this idea. On a new thread, I would post the active gods in boldface, just as Defledd suggested.
ewancummins 08-05-07, 12:21 AM	I see Tanner is moving towards gaining the Life domain. An artifact and a template, both Life related. Pretty good. I understand his portion of TyDw is minor positive dominant. Creating a plane with [at least regions of] major positive trait would be enough, IMO, to justify awarding the Life domain to Tanner.
ewancummins 08-05-07, 12:42 AM	PS, the new fertile belt is west of the mountains, verging on the sea. It's big enough to one day form the breadbasket for multiple nations. It's also got ankhegs roaming about it]. That's me describing the location of the future Bountiful Country. Defledd, if you could squeeze that onto the map , that would rock.
ewancummins 08-05-07, 06:21 PM	Nequelleden does not gain the Healing domain, YET. Gaining a domain that someone else holds or has held is usually harder than getting one that is ''new''. Blight did something similiar, and it wasn't enough to gain the domain. However, she's made a good start towards getting it. Future actions that promote healing or medicine will be needed to gain the domain. She's got a good start on it.
Delfedd 08-05-07, 06:23 PM	Well dang it. I didn't actually say that I was grabbing the orb. I meant to. And if I don't get it now, I'll get it later. what say you? was it fairly obvious that I was going for the orb? I believe I told Ewan beforehand.
ewancummins 08-05-07, 06:27 PM	Yup, you told me. Originally Posted by Delfedd In the army to invade the dragons, ten young conscripts joined up. They appeared to be peasants, and all seemed to know each other, although not all of them liked each other. They wore approximately the same style of clothing, and looked to come from the area around the Plainsrunners. These guys are actually dragons. I'm sending this to you so it doesn't seem like I'm retroconning when they steal the Master Dragon Orb and break it. You didn't post it though? Hmmm.
ewancummins 08-05-07, 06:31 PM	That quote is from Defledd's PM to me, regarding the plan. How are you guys going to handle this? Retconning it this far in presents a few problems, I should think. Is there only one Orb of Dragonkind?
Delfedd 08-05-07, 06:39 PM	There was, but as it stands now, there are now ten shards.
Delfedd 08-05-07, 10:21 PM	I recently had an idea which I got from talking with Flumph. I recently realized that there have been no Mortal sorcerers. This made me start thinking. We can really start something unique with them. Something totally different. My idea is that a sorcerer binds creatures to his or her mind. As they grow in level, the creature either becomes more powerful, or more creatures are bound to his mind. The creature is PART of the sorcerer, but if the sorcerer undergoes an alignment change, some (or all, depending on their alignment) of the creatures leave the mind of the sorcerer, leaving him spelless for a time untill he performs the ritual again, choosing a different set of creatures. What do you think?
Return of the Flumph 08-05-07, 10:27 PM	Awesome idea, but I think it fits the warlock class better than it does sorcerers. We don't have warlocks yet, to the best of my memory, so that could work for them.
d24478667 08-05-07, 10:28 PM	Yeah, I like the idea, primarily because it reminds me of Dementist's from the Odyssey books. The bad part is its quite similar; catch my drift? [EDIT]For the record, I agree with RotF. For example, when they use the wings invocation, they could be overlapping the creature over them. [EDIT2]It could be semi-dependent on faith; for example, when a warlock who follows Frostbite uses the wings invocation, they would grow white dragon wings, but one who followed Alusia would have the black pair and the white pair of angelic wings. Or not. I dunno.
Delfedd 08-05-07, 10:32 PM	We've had one warlock... Simiel.
Delfedd 08-05-07, 10:34 PM	Anyway, why can't we make sorcerers very different? I mean, the problem with warlocks is the alignment restriction. With sorcerers you could use anything. Perhaps inherited sorcerers exist but are much rarer?
d24478667 08-05-07, 10:37 PM	Dude. This is a homebrew setting. If it actually gets played, we can bend the rules. The alignment restriction never made sense to me anyway; it acknowledges there can be other sources, but it basically shoehorns you into the demonic one.
Delfedd 08-05-07, 10:40 PM	That's true. But that's my point as well. We can reflavor the warlock just like we can reflavor the sorcerers. Also, I'm very glad I asked first.
d24478667 08-05-07, 10:41 PM	For one thing, Frostbite would be willing to deposit some of his currently massive AP bank in this.
Delfedd 08-05-07, 10:42 PM	Myself as well. But now I must go. Ciao.
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Zebppir 08-05-07, 11:37 PM	Nequelleden does not gain the Healing domain, YET. Gaining a domain that someone else holds or has held is usually harder than getting one that is ''new''. Blight did something similiar, and it wasn't enough to gain the domain. However, she's made a good start towards getting it. Future actions that promote healing or medicine will be needed to gain the domain. She's got a good start on it. yet I'm going to get it no matter what and then...... we'll cross that bridge when we get there
Zebppir 08-05-07, 11:40 PM	I recently had an idea which I got from talking with Flumph. I recently realized that there have been no Mortal sorcerers. This made me start thinking. We can really start something unique with them. Something totally different. My idea is that a sorcerer binds creatures to his or her mind. As they grow in level, the creature either becomes more powerful, or more creatures are bound to his mind. The creature is PART of the sorcerer, but if the sorcerer undergoes an alignment change, some (or all, depending on their alignment) of the creatures leave the mind of the sorcerer, leaving him spelless for a time untill he performs the ritual again, choosing a different set of creatures. What do you think? I have a name for it is kinda plain but how about calling this spellcaster creature binder?or how about binder of creatures? anyway sounds like it would be a great class
Return of the Flumph 08-05-07, 11:43 PM	I have a name for it is kinda plain but how about calling this spellcaster creature binder?or how about binder of creatures? anyway sounds like it would be a great class There are already Binders in this setting, of the Tome of Magic persuasion.
ewancummins 08-06-07, 12:09 AM	We have binders? Do we have vestiges?
Kirtanus_Albacron 08-06-07, 01:31 AM	I think Jansunaj was going to create it,but apparently he didn't get around to it.
Destrieth 08-06-07, 03:11 AM	I think Jansunaj was going to create it,but apparently he didn't get around to it. And I think we can all thank our lucky stars...
d24478667 08-06-07, 09:02 AM	Yeah. Otherwise they would have all been lunatics. Not that binders aren't halfway there already, with all those voices speaking to them. ;)
Delfedd 08-06-07, 02:21 PM	(Chaotic evil celestials? What? You think that celestials assisting Mortals indescriminately killing good and evil dragons is GOOD? What? Let's break it down now. The radiant dragons would guard the orb, because the directives of a god would overwhelm any hatred that they might have for an artifact. They were created with that purpose in mind, and would have it drummed into their skulls. Not many creatures want to anger a god.) So... you've created creatures which cannot obey the whims of their own mind? Brainwashing them for the purpose of defending something that they hate? Because they fear their god? Oh deary me. Lexius the blue has become chaotic evil. Or chaotic neutral at best. Also About the mercenary desertions. A share of a hoard of a dragon, or many dragons, would be a big lure . That may be, but the mercenaries are also mortals, many of whom have not ever seen anything supernatural beyond spells. The death of their leader would be... monumental.
d24478667 08-06-07, 03:23 PM	Yeah, and as I pointed out, if 'Not many creatures want to anger a god.', then why the hell is Kikik?! He's managed to anger three, and possibly counting.
Delfedd 08-06-07, 06:36 PM	Yup. We can smite him all legallike too. He's immortal.
ewancummins 08-06-07, 06:41 PM	Ah yes, he is immortal now, isn't he? Heehehehee...
d24478667 08-06-07, 06:55 PM	Please wait for Frostbite to come back though; it should be soon.
ewancummins 08-06-07, 06:58 PM	Sure.
d24478667 08-06-07, 07:00 PM	Cool, thanks. And he certainly won't be able to survive three gre-- I mean, 2 greater gods and 1 intermediate god.
Illeveun Bloodblaze 08-06-07, 07:32 PM	Well from what I believe, and I do not want to get into an alignment discussion, it is the belief behind the action that makes an action good or evil. Lexius believes that he is doing good, thus, from my point of view, he is good. And, about the radiant dragons, they do not hate the orb. They believe it is an instrument of their god, and so want to protect it. And yes, Kikik is immortal, so he is smitable.
Kirtanus_Albacron 08-06-07, 07:41 PM	That makes no sense. Lexius would be at least neutral for doing those things, even if they are for the greater good, because the individual actions aren't, and the individual actions count.
Delfedd 08-06-07, 09:39 PM	Dude. If alignment was based on what is believed, MORINTU would be good. It is the ACTIONS that count. No one believes that they are evil. Now off to do some smiting
Return of the Flumph 08-06-07, 10:10 PM	In my opinion, Lexius has always been chaotic neutral. Sometimes he does more good, sometimes more evil, but I've not yet seen enough of either from him to make him good or evil.
Delfedd 08-06-07, 11:14 PM	I think that we should vote on that. All in favor of making Lexius Chaotic Neutral say Aye. Hehe. Anyway, I think that the Ezera are an evil race. Pillaging and plundering has been their "thing" since the empire.
d24478667 08-06-07, 11:15 PM	Aye. [EDIT]Wait, was that a joke? ;)
Delfedd 08-06-07, 11:18 PM	Nope. For real. I just think it's funny that I'm using verbal votes for a written thing.
Zebppir 08-06-07, 11:20 PM	Cool, thanks. And he certainly won't be able to survive three gre-- I mean, 2 greater gods and 1 intermediate god. sounds like its going to be a party and i'm not invited looks like i'm going to have to crash it
d24478667 08-06-07, 11:21 PM	Good, cause I was only partly joking. Little late now, Delfedd took care of it.
Return of the Flumph 08-06-07, 11:32 PM	Not all the ezera are like that. A large number of them are peaceful traders, who use spelljamming ships to make good money in the transportation and shipping industries. Unless I'm mistaken, some ezera cities still exist in their ancestral mountains, as these ones never defied the empire. I refer, of course, to those who worship Sage. They worship Lexius as well, but Sage mostly.
Delfedd 08-06-07, 11:36 PM	The Dreamless mage saw the ten towers marked on a map from the Imperial days. He read accounts of the great magic within. They're looking for allies here. If the ten towers was supposed to be a big secret I can change it.
Return of the Flumph 08-06-07, 11:39 PM	Its not a secret; they should be on all the old imperial maps. It just seems like an odd coincidence that this would happen just as the goblins are starting their thing. Its okay, I can run with it, but I do have some longterm plans for these gobbies that I would like to happen, so please don't kill them.
Delfedd 08-06-07, 11:44 PM	That would not make much sense. Killing them? The reason for that is they're looking for allies. Just a coincidence. They didn't mean for the goblins to be there.
Return of the Flumph 08-06-07, 11:49 PM	All's good then.
d24478667 08-07-07, 12:05 AM	Delfedd, I know its (relatively) early to ask, but, seeing as you are on, and you have posted after the post in question, is Morintu going to answer Frostbite?
Illeveun Bloodblaze 08-07-07, 01:15 AM	Morintu knows and believes that his acts are evil, but for the greater good? Than that is evil. Lexius believes that his actions are for the good. And the Ezera have only "pillaged" twice. Once, because you did not say that the ezera were freed. The second time was because the dragons occupied their homeland, and even then, they did not take anything, they just attacked those who attacked them. If none stood in their way between them and their sacred ground, then they would not have attacked anything.
Destrieth 08-07-07, 01:21 AM	Illeveun, saying the belief behind the action is what makes it good or evil is EXTREMELY illogical. I won't get into details, but there are TONS of examples in history and dozens of them happening right now that say you're wrong.
Return of the Flumph 08-07-07, 01:29 AM	The ezera never offered to, say, buy their land back. They just attacked. While their plight is sympathetic, their methods are at least somewhat evil. Also, the Ezera who never left their mountains would probably have something to say about all this. I'll bring them in.
Illeveun Bloodblaze 08-07-07, 01:52 AM	All of the ezera were enslaved and taken away from the mountains. Plus, the ezera would never be able to buy land from a horde of dragons, and would be offended at their sacred grounds being bought like a loaf of bread.
Return of the Flumph 08-07-07, 03:06 AM	Plus, the ezera would never be able to buy land from a horde of dragons, and would be offended at their sacred grounds being bought like a loaf of bread. The Jews did it.
Destrieth 08-07-07, 03:41 AM	Ewan told me to inform everyone that he's having sign-in issues and is currently getting support from the WizOs; just in case anyone is worried he's vanished.
Destrieth 08-07-07, 03:43 AM	Seriously. If the lands are that sacred to the Ezera, the ability to get them at a price at all should be extremely tantalizing.
Delfedd 08-07-07, 12:06 PM	Morintu knows and believes that his acts are evil, but for the greater good? First, No. Morintu believes his actions are for the greater good. Second, the dragons still have not attacked the army since their second rallying. They've been content to wait, although there has been much dissent on this matter. Frostbite, Morintu will answer.
d24478667 08-07-07, 07:12 PM	I don't know what to have Frostbite make for Morintu; he has enough weapons, and I can't think of anything else.
Return of the Flumph 08-07-07, 07:41 PM	Good god, Morintu's effective DVR is high enough already! Don't you be making it any higher! Speaking of which, we really need an effective DVR cap, or else everyone will just spam artifacts and end up in the forties.
d24478667 08-07-07, 07:46 PM	Yeah, I was thinking a non-combat one. As I mentioned. Though I said weapon, instead of combat. I particularly like how Frostbite is worshiped by the dragons when he had no hand in their creation.
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Delfedd 08-08-07, 05:25 PM	Who else is really excited about running this world? It's got all the typical fantastic elements, a pantheon that began as law versus chaos. A world with ancient civilizations that ruled over everything. Great battles between law and chaos, and later on, good and evil. And yet we're still different. We've got a unique pantheon, Hell not being exclusive to evil. Elemental planes are not neutral, they take sides in the entire conflict. We have a REASON why the angels don't just come down and smite everything. We have a sweet transport system and an awesome war in the making. We need to work on a few things still IMO. 1. Dwarves. They're not very well developed. I suggest that Sage (or myself, but you wouldn't like that very much) begin to influence the dwarves. Also, shouldn't the dwarf domain be open? or did Amon snag it? 2. The eastern continent. This is my fault. I should have developed it more beforehand when the plainsrunners and plainsdwellers split off. But as of now, the east is boring. 3. PALADINS! Although we have no lawful good gods, what's to stop you guys from making paladins of freedom? Maybe paladins of justice are the weirdos.
d24478667 08-08-07, 05:49 PM	Ya know, I would, but as is, paladins using my favored weapon would get screwed. Perhaps Frostbite should make himself another weapon... Yeah... Oh yeah, the reason that one tribe of Arctic Rose beginning to worship Morintu instead of Frostbite is a big deal. Why? Frostbite saved all their lives. Morintu gave them a new state, in Frostbite's realm of Enfermia. Frostbite has also taught them, but what else has Morintu done for them? And there are basically two tribes. The one in TyDyw and the one in Enfermia. That's why its a pretty big deal. I was gonna have them venture out to the material soon; aother then that, I can think of one Arctic Rose who has been in the prime material, and that's K'zert, the first to ascend.
Delfedd 08-08-07, 06:47 PM	Morintu did give them the words of power as well as the acolyte of morintu feat. Controlling the weather is quite usefull in cold temperatures. OK. Riverrock asked me to either change the dreamless or take them out. Since they're intregal to my plans and stuff, I decided to change them. Instead of being kicked forcibly from the dreamrealm, they take a feat via a ritual to forcibly eject themselves from the dreamrealms forever. This feat allows them to take dreamless. I know that there should be knowledge (the planes) as a prerequisite, but I can't think of the bonus. Also, the "By the will of Morintu, eternal master of air and earth" thing, you can only use it once per encounter, and you must make a charisma check (Dc 10) to succeed. Also, there's no problem with paladin's smite stinking with a ranged weapon. They could a) favor a melee weapon, or b) all your paladins could be crazy ranged pally's with special feats to smite at a distance.
d24478667 08-08-07, 07:10 PM	Yeah, but I had an idea for a new weapon also. Anyone mind me introducing katanas (mechanically bastard swords) to the game? Cause I want to call the artifact Frostbite's Claw, but a katana looks more like a claw then a bastard sword does. Again, you didn't say that, so please, when I debate stuff, at least give me the full info so I don't sound like an idiot. And then I would make a feat for it, something like Chosen of Frostbite [Paladin] Requisite: Must be paladin of freedom, Must worship Frostbite, must have Knowledge: Religion 4 ranks. You may smite evil with ranged attacks if you use a longbow or composite longbow and you gain EWP: bastard sword as a bonus feat. In addition, you lose the ability to use Smite Evil in melee combat unless you are wielding a bastard sword. The last part is in italics because I'm not sure about it. (Perhaps more requisites to balance it?)
Delfedd 08-08-07, 07:13 PM	Eeeh.... I don't like it. When using asian based classes and stuff I like to take the "asia" out of them. Why not just have a Bastard sword?
d24478667 08-08-07, 07:16 PM	I just wanted it to look more like a claw; that's what I was saying. But I can see what you are saying. A bastard sword made of ice, claw shaped or not, would probably look pretty cool. See, I'm learning! Now I value others' opinions!
Zebppir 08-08-07, 07:23 PM	Who else is really excited about running this world? It's got all the typical fantastic elements, a pantheon that began as law versus chaos. A world with ancient civilizations that ruled over everything. Great battles between law and chaos, and later on, good and evil. And yet we're still different. We've got a unique pantheon, Hell not being exclusive to evil. Elemental planes are not neutral, they take sides in the entire conflict. We have a REASON why the angels don't just come down and smite everything. We have a sweet transport system and an awesome war in the making. We need to work on a few things still IMO. 1. Dwarves. They're not very well developed. I suggest that Sage (or myself, but you wouldn't like that very much) begin to influence the dwarves. Also, shouldn't the dwarf domain be open? or did Amon snag it? 2. The eastern continent. This is my fault. I should have developed it more beforehand when the plainsrunners and plainsdwellers split off. But as of now, the east is boring. 3. PALADINS! Although we have no lawful good gods, what's to stop you guys from making paladins of freedom? Maybe paladins of justice are the weirdos. I'm willing to help develop the east but I need a partner to do it with and Nequelleden needs a friend or five ;)
d24478667 08-08-07, 07:33 PM	Any comments on the power level of the feat?
Return of the Flumph 08-08-07, 08:26 PM	I've been holding out on making Paladins of Freedom because for some reason, I felt that Paladins of Justice should come first. Now that you mention it, though, most of the good versus evil conflict in the world is CG vs LE, so Paladins of Freedom ARE in order. Those guys are right up Gly's alley. She'll make them as soon as there is an excuse to do so. Sage has not abandoned the dwarves; I've just been focusing my sagely attentions on the goblins recently. Since halflings and gnomes are both evil, I thought the selection of PC races needed another Small option, so I'm making a new goblin subrace (descendents of Ib's tribe, of course) for player use. They will mostly be true neutral, and will have slightly different stats from normal goblins by the end. But anyway, yeah, Sage can do something with the dwarves. I've also got a couple of "cool terrain" ideas (mostly Gly related) you might like.
d24478667 08-08-07, 08:35 PM	RotF, would you be mad if Frostbite also created an order of paladins of freedom? Because if you want there to only be one, okay. I want to make one, but I am also very interested in how Glykllivar's would turn out. Edit: Actually screw the feat. It would make any tank want to be a paladin of freedom just so they can get the EWP and the ranged smite.
Return of the Flumph 08-08-07, 08:58 PM	RotF, would you be mad if Frostbite also created an order of paladins of freedom? Because if you want there to only be one, okay. I want to make one, but I am also very interested in how Glykllivar's would turn out. Sure. We'll just make sure the flavor (and possibly stats) is different. Maybe you can do the whole "super ranged attack pallies," and Gly can do the typical PoF.
d24478667 08-08-07, 09:02 PM	Works for me.
CombatMedic 08-08-07, 10:14 PM	Hey guys! It's Ewan. I changed my ID and password. I'll be CombatMedic from now on.
CombatMedic 08-08-07, 10:15 PM	I hope this stays fixed.... I went to Gleemax, signed in there, then used the redirect to keep from getting booted. Anybody else experience this sort of trouble?
d24478667 08-08-07, 10:28 PM	Getting booted meaning it auto logging out? They had that in an announcement. Now mine doesn't do it. Kinda weird. I also made sure to hold in a question. Before Riverrock left, he said that I would indeed be eligible for the travel domain after Frostbite returned. Will you stand by that decision or not? Either is acceptable, as you and Riverrock are different people and therefore have different opinions on domain eligibility.
CombatMedic 08-08-07, 10:49 PM	Yeah, I think it's all fixed now. Seems to be working fine. I'll stand by Riverrock's decision. Frostbite/the Wanderer certainly did some travelling. Also the Dwarf domain was held by Amon, but he is dead and gone. Therefore, I rule it to be open. Getting it will require some work. Amon got it by creating dwarves. The next god to hold it will need to act as a racial patron, maybe spend a lot of time and APs on the dwarves. Or we can bring in a new player as a dwarf god, if anyone is interested. Must update gods list.
CombatMedic 08-08-07, 10:55 PM	[1] Absaul-rote (Missing) the storyteller [DR:50] Supreme Deity, Bard35/Monk15, [AP:6] Symbol: Quill Home: Void Alignment: Neutral Domains: Creation, Time, Fire, Sun, Cold, Darkness Portfolio: Worshipers: Favored Weapon: Quill (longsword) Avatar: Travelling Storyteller [2] Amon (Dead) [DvR 20] Greater Deity, Cleric/Paladin 47, [AP:6] Symbol: White Staff Home: Haven Alignment: Lawful Neutral Domains: Law, Fate, Good, Knowledge, Death, Dwarf Portfolio: Order, Good, Wisdom, Heroes Worshipers: druids, nomads, scholars, kings, judges, philosophers, paladins, monks, wizards Favored Weapon: Spear of Fate Avatar: An old soldier Species Created: Lung, Merfolk, Titans, Dwarves, Runebound [3] Ahuizotl (Missing) the sleeping god, the man on the moon He who cleaved the world in two [DvR 16] Greater Deity, Barbarian 20/Fighter 20, [AP:5] Symbol: A double-bladed axe Home: pending; (Plane of Light,moon) Alignment: Chaotic Domains: Chaos, Battle, Plants, Moon Portfolio: Chaos Worshipers: Barbarians, Mercenaries, Bandits, Favored Weapon: "Bloodseeker" an obsidian-edged greataxe Avatar: A powerfully built humanoid with the head and fur of a black panther, wearing ornate gold breastplate and wielding a giant-sized axe. Spceis created: protean plants, ahuizotls [4] Kur-ah (Dead) He who saw, Furnace of Foresight [DvR 16] Greater Deity, Druid 20/Wizard (Diviner) 20 Symbol: A heart of molten stone Home: Void Alignment: True Neutral Domains: Fire, Earth, Rune, Knowledge, Dragons Portfolio: Fire, Magma, Earth, Prophecy Worshipers: Druids, Seers, Doomsayers, Dragons Favored Weapon: "The Rock and The Flame" Dire Flail, one stone head, one burning head. Avatar: The shape of an elderly man with beard and wearing robes that are made out of stone. His mouth and eyes glow with the intence fire that is the heart of the world. He has a gaping hole in his chest that shines with the purple light of magic. Species Created: Dragons, Minotaurs, Centaurs, Keepers, Rilmani, Azer, nerra, elemental weirds [5] Arteheyn the River Maiden [DvR 20] Greater Deity, Druid 21 Cleric 20 [AP7] Symbol: a silver scaled fish, a green snake, or a stylized icon depicting a blue river against a green background[ rectangle crossed by a snaking blue line] Home: Earth, Arteheyn's Garden Alignment:Neutral Domains: Water, Animals, Community, Weather, Plants, Spider Portfolio: precipitation , nourishment of living things, rivers Worshipers: farmers, herders , river folk, minotaurs, myconids Favored Weapon: Flail of Sundering[ heavy flail] Avatar: She appears as a fair young woman, clad in simple garb of blue or green. She is barefoot, and leaves watery tracks behind herself. Her silvery hair flows as if she were floating in a stream. Species Created: Tritons, Coautls, Tendriculos, Assassin Vines, Animals and Plants, Oceanic Creatures, Dragons, Desert Plants, Sauguaro Sentinels, myconids, chevalls, Animal Lords, Spiders, mortai, dire animals, giant bugs[ants, bees, etc.], ankhegs, basilisks, dragonnes, shocker lizards, fungoid guardian species[violet fungi, phantom fungi, basidironds, ascomoids], minor deaths, ettercaps, actaeons, talking beasts ,water elementals, cryions, golems,aurumvoraxes [6] Morintu Skylord [DvR 20] Greater Deity, Monk/Druid 41 [AP:6] Symbol: The thousand chains Home: Plane of Air Alignment: Lawful Neutral Domains: Air, Storm, Law, Dragons, Undeath, Fury, Death, Earth Portfolio: Weather, Justice, the Undead Worshipers: Sailors, Druids, Judges, Astrologers, Dragons Favored Weapon: Shackles of Justice (A series of chains which tie him to the stars.) Avatar: A Bipedal, winged Lion with the head of a serpent and hands of a Man. He has a great, whipping serpent's tail. His chains bind him to the universe. He drifts through the world like a dust mote on the wind. Species Created: Vaati, Dragons, Inevitables, Djini, Undead, Liches, Death Knights, Devils, Mummies, Ghouls, Ghasts, Kobolds,gnomes,earth elemntals, air elementals, dretches, abel and abeloks, halflings [7] Ry'theal (Dead) [DR:12] Intermediate Deity, Duskblade 21/Fighter 15, [AP:4] Symbol: A Sun Shining Above a Plateau Home: The Sun Alignment: Chaotic Good Domains: Sun, Pride, Freedom, Protection Portfolio: Worshipers: Warriors Favored Weapon: Ray of Light(Spear) Avatar: An almost dog-like biped, with opposable thumbs, but paws for feet. His fur color is dirty blonde, and instead of a dog face there is one much like an elf, but with two tiny horns on top of his head. Species Created: Solanthi, ramdeen, sun-trees [8] Lexius the Blue [Dvr16] Greater Deity , Wizard 19 Spellthief15 [AP:7] Symbol: Upside-down Crescent Moon, vertically upon that is a maul. Home: Paradise Alignment: Neutral good Domains: Magic, Moon, Liberation Portfolio: Arcane Magic Worshippers: Wizards, Sorcerers, Ezera, Favored Weapon: Unstoppable Might of Magic (Maul) Avatar: Bipedal Hawlklike Creature, wearing robes, with a maul apon his back Species created: ezera [9] NAME: Akhier (Missing) [DR:9] Lesser Deity, Sorc/psion seer 30 Battle Sorc/Pyrokineticist 4 [AP:7] Symbol: a sideways hourglass Home: Reehier (giant tree) Alignment: Chaotic Neutral Domains: Time, Glory, Portfolio: Worshipers: Seers, Psions, Ystalhier Favored Weapon: staff of the day(a crystal quarterstaff with flaming burst on both ends) Avatar: a constantly changing fluid crystals in the shape of a man that has a warm glow radiating out from him with eyes like 2 suns of intense fire [10] Kersys (Missing) [DR:6] Lesser Deity, Beguiler 20/Swordsage 14 Symbol: A sphere of darkness with an inscribed hourglass, half-filled on each side. Home: Earth Alignment: Lawful Neutral Domains: Time, Darkness Portfolio: Time, night, darkness Worshipers: Rogues, beguilers, thieves, (any that operate by night) Favored Weapon: Nightbringer (two-bladed sword) Avatar: The Night Within: A humanoid form wearing entirely black, almost made out of the substance of darkness and the night sky. In the middle of his back the phases of the moon are inscribed as if they were carved into his very substance. His eyes reflect the night sky, but he has no other facial features. Species Created: Rodents, Dusklings [11] Frostbite [DR]:12 Intermediate Deity Druid 15/Totemist15 [AP:5] Symbol: A white rose on a Snowflake Home: Earth Alignment: Chaotic Good Domain: Winter, Community, Cold, Travel Portfolio: Frost, Cold, Community Worshippers: Frost Mages, Arctic Peoples Favored Weapon: Glacieso's Eye (Bow) Avatar:White dragon, with icy wings, teeth, and claws. Species Created: Arctic Rose Lizardfolk, Woodlings, Thrym hounds [12] Kyrinian DR [6] Lesser Deity, Barbarian 14/Ranger 14 Symbol: A red spear striking a green circle and a waning blue crescent Home: Earth Alignment: Chaotic Neutral Domains: Summer, Dream Portfolio: Summer, Moon Worshippers: Favored Weapon: Sword of Summer's Strike (Greatsword) Avatar: A humanoid with the lower body of a wolf, and the upper body of a young man with red hair, green eyes, and the antlers of a deer. His torso is covered with green streaks that that grow and shimmer. Creatures Created: Nereids, Dryads, Glitterhaunts, Lycanthropes, Nightmares, Unicorns, Eladrin, Salamanders, succubi, harpies [13] Name: K’Thymon The Scaled One (Missing) [DR 11] Intermediate Deity Sorcerer 20/Barbarian 21 Home: The Mountains by the Chasm Alignment: Neutral Domains: Dragons Portfolio: Dragons, mountains, fire. Worshippers: Dragons, sorcerers, sentient reptiles, sometimes barbarians. Favored Weapon: Iron Claw (Greatsword) Avatar: A scaled humanoid, wiry and tall (just below Large sized) with scales of many colors, a greatsword strung across his back, and a black robe, and similar eyes that seem to look through everything instead of at it. [14] Glykllivar the sailor, empress of the deep [DvR: 16] Intermediate Deity, Ranger 20/Druid 21 Symbol: a blank flag Home: Lahach Alignment: Chaotic Good Domains: Ocean, Travel, Protection Portfolio: sailors, aquatic beings, the sea in general, etc. Worshipers: Seamen, fishermen, aquatic beings Favored Weapon: a barbed longspear Avatar: A beautiful brown haired female humanoid in naval dress (the sailor), or a bluish female torso with an eel’s head (empress of the deep) Species Created: Dragon Turtles, Sea Giants, Morkoths, Ocean Giants, Sea Elves, [15]NAME: Pholtone (Dead) [DR:11] Intermediate Deity, rogue 20/ ninja 15 [4 AP] Symbol: a hand grasping a red orb Home: plane of light Alignment: Chaotic Neutral Domains: Chaos, Moon, Healing Portfolio:chaos, light, moon Worshipers: barbarians, mercenaries, Favored Weapon: the fingernail (kukri) Avatar: a creature (the most common race in the area) with a large hand and a wrist instead of a head and a neck Creatures Created: Athachs, Slaad [16] Kakavindus (Missing) The False Dragon [DvR: 16] Greater Deity, Rogue 20/Wizard 20 [AP: 8] Symbol: Black four-pointed star Home: Karkeri (Plane of Evil) Alignment: Neutral Evil Domains: Evil, Destruction Portfolio: Violence, all manner of evil Worshippers: Evil creatures, some Wind Dukes, Worgs, Yugoloths Favored weapon: “Corrupting Edge,” a poisoned falchion Avatar: A dark humanoid possessing the face and claws of a wolf, the wings of a black dragon, and a reptilian tail tipped with a stinger. Creatures Created: Worgs, Yugoloths, Gnolls [17] Alusia The Golden Lady, Watcher of Creation [DR:44] Supreme deity, Warblade 30 Wizrd 20 [AP:10] Symbol: A broken sword Home: Gorgild Alignment: Lawful Neutral Domain: Wrath, Retribution, Fire, Creation Portfolio: - Worshippers: None Favored weapon: The Quill of Creation (Longsword) Avatar: The avatar of Alusia is a white-skinned humanoid female clad in golden flowing garments. Golden light pours from eyes like pools of mercury and golden steam wafts from her nose and mouth. Creatures Created: MM Angels, Werelions, Hobgoblins, Vengeance Fey, Fire Elementals [18] NAME: Avnuk (Dead) [DR: 6] Lesser Deity, Wizard 24 / Psion (savant) 10 Symbol: A skull of a dragon, with Bright red eyes Home: Anacrix Alignment: Neutral Domains: Necromancy, Deathbound Portfolio: Death, Undeath, Power, Corruption Worshipers: Necromancers, Cultists Favored Weapon: Reach Of Corruption (staff) Avatar: A young, pale, Black robed man with one bright red eye and a skeletal hand. Creatures Created: Vampires [19] NAME: Kethvok (Missing) [DR: 11] Intermediate Deity, fighter 30 / assassin 8 Symbol: Two axes forming a cross, in front of a broken shield Home: Void Alignment: Evil Domains: War, Hatred Portfolio: Death, Destruction, War Worshipers: Warriors Favored Weapon: Fanged Slayer (Claymore) Avatar: A large Male orc, with numerous scars all over his body. He wears tough leather armor, adorned with the skulls of various creatures Creatures Created: Orcs [20] Name: Elvunil (Missing) [DR:15] Intermediate Deity, Bard30/Monk10, [AP:4] Symbol: A red book, with a white eye in the center Home: Void Alignment: Neutral Domains: Pact, Oracle Portfolio: The future, present, and past, alliances Worshipers: Sages, and knowledge seekers. Favored Weapon: the Fist Avatar: Travelling Monk. Long white hair, and deep blue eyes and a look of knowledge on his face. [21]Corwyn (Missing) [DR:6] Gestalt Rogue/Sorc 30 Symbol: Golden Triangle with mouth-like semi circle inside. Home: Void Alignment: Chaotic Neutral Domain - Trickery Portfolio - Deceit, Seduction, and Wit Worshipers: Con men, seducers, and flatterers Favored Weapon: Razor Wit - Rapier Avatar: He appears it whatever form the local populace has. However, he always appears as an incredibly beautiful androgynous being, whose sex is questionable. He always pays attention to what is most fashionable for the populace, and wears only the most fashionable clothes. [22]Father Blight (Dead) [DR:11] Intermediate Deity, Cleric 20, rogue 15, [AP:4] Symbol: A gold ring Home: Void Alignment: Chaotic Evil Domains: Pestilance, Vile Darkness, Madness Portfolio: Sickness, monsters, challanges, danger, threats, evolution of good, degridation of evil. Worshipers: Blighters, rogues, cultists, (dogma has little apeal to most evil creatures) Favored Weapon: Thrusting hand (punching dagger) Avatar: Humanoid dressed in smart and neat black clothes that are at the height of fashion in the area, Left half handsom but cold with sholder length black hair, blue eye and neat moustash, right half degraded rotting slime and puss covered body with a white eye and stingy grey hair. Right hand is gloved. Creatures Created: Dopplegangers, Hags, Goblins, Rakshasa, Derro 23]NAME: Ooulzoth He-who-Hungers, The Faceless Lord, Lord of Nothing,… [DR:20] Intermediate Deity, Cleric20/Oozemaster15, [AP:9] Symbol:A Worm with tentacles. Home: Void Alignment: Neutral Evil (maybe a bit to the chaotic) Domains: Hunger, Slime, Destruction Portfolio: hunger, slimes, oozes, jellies Worshipers: (anyone foolish enough) Favored Weapon:Tentacle or Pseudopod or Artifact Symbiotes Avatar:It looks like a giant worm with tentacles. It's skin is made out of a black an purple looking crust, whitch constantly shifts and cracks, and oozes out green slime.Thousands of small eyes cover it’s body. On it’s back are several volcano-like structures that constantly emit a purple black cloud of spores. Another form is that of a faceless humanoid made entirely of ooze and slime. It has tendrils and tentacles for hair. He wears several symbiotes, a red gauntlet on his right hand, a dark tentacled bracer on his left, a dark armor with a hive like structure and 2 worm tentacles. He also has a mask that also has no face on it. Creatures Created: Demodands, kythons, tsochar, neogi, chuul, grell, Void ships, Voidlings, mindflayers of Thoon,ixitachitl, avolakias [24]Britmara [DR: 6] lesser-deity Crusader level 30 Symbol: A small bird perched atop a upright sword's point, against a background formed by an azure shield clustered with seven silver stars. Home: Haven Alignment: Neutral Good [leaning toward LG] Domain: Courage Portfolio: courage , hope, defense of the weak and the innocent Worshippers: good folk beset by evil, soldiers entering righteous battle, crusaders and zealots who oppose evil Favored weapon: Merciful Stroke[bastard sword] Avatar: Her avatar appears as a female humanoid , beautiful and athletic with a celestial aura about her. She wears partial plate and mail armor of graceful and lightweight design. A shield is strapped on her left arm. She carries a sword at her side. [Think of the MM1 image of the ghaele eladrin, that's close]. Creatures Created: Lupins, Havenite Harriers [Arcadian Avengers], Archons [25]NAME:Therias[missing] Lord of Trade, Coin's Soul [DR:6] wizard5/expert10/fighter10 Symbol: A coin with a ship engraving. Home: Void Alignment: Neutral Domains: Commerce [I think its called that] Portfolio: Trade, traders, economy in general Worshipers:Merchants, caravanists Favored Weapon: Light Crossbow Avatar: A tall middle-aged man with eerie eyes. (The eyeballs are shaped like coins.) He wears richly embroidered clothes. [26]NAME: Mirath Nirik (Missing) Thought Seer, The Mind Bender. [DR:6] Lesser Diety, Psion 20/Mindspy 10 Symbol: A green spark shaped like a circle on a purple backround. Home: Void Alignment: Chaotic Neutral Domains: Mind Portfolio: Psions, Refugees Worshipers:- Psions, Psychic Monsters Favored Weapon: His Mind Avatar:- A young man, slightly tanned, wearing leather pants and many belts. He has no hair and a green tatoo on his face. [27] NAME: Sage [DR: 6] Lesser Deity: Illusionist 20 / Psion 7 / Loremaster 7 Symbol: A metal anulis Home: Disc City (sort of) Alignment: Lawful Good Domains: Illusion, Knowledge, Magic Portfolio: illusion magic, psionics, science, lore Worshipers: natural philosophers, sane psions, some humans Favored Weapon: AMMA-61 Disruption Rod (quarterstaff) Avatar: A hovering, holographic human face made up of numerous transcluscent spheres. He can also speak through his old body in Disc City, which is a metal cube covered in interface modules, plasma screen moniters, and microholoprojectors. Creatures Created: -automatons,clockroaches, gith [28]Selevern The Bloodborn, Freedom-Giver, Elf-Father [DvR 16] Rogue 20/Dread Commando 14/ Incarnate 2 AP:6 Home: Prime Material Alignment: Neutral Good Symbol: A Longsword breaking a Chain Domains:Freedom, Elf, Courage, Transformation, Incarnum Portfolio: Gurrellia Tatics, Defending the Weak, Freedom from Tyrants, Elves Worshippers: Rebels, Gurrellia Fighters,Elves Favored Weapon: The Strike of Freedom(Longsword) Avatar: An Elven man clad in full breastplate with blood red cloth covering the leggings and bright red hair. Spcies crated:elves, some kind of magical giants[name?] [29] Tanner The Chrysallis, The Clay, He who Causes Ripples in the Pond [DR:6] Transmuter 17 (Prohibited: Enchantment and Necromancy)/Egoist 12/Rogue3/Cleric 2 Symbol: Butterfly Home: Refuge (for now) Alignment: Chaotic Neutral Domains: Transformation Portfolio: Evolution of creatures Worshipers: Transmuter, philanderers, scholars (those concerned with evolution), egoists Favored Weapon: 42 (Whip) or Natural Weapon Avatar: A humanoid of whatever is most adaptable to the reigon, constantly adapting to the new environment, such as suddenly the ears becomeing more elf like, or a nose becoming orcish when a good smell comes by then returning to a human nose, hair color changing, switching from male to female or vice versa, etc. Normally dressed in a white coat, though occasionally dressed in mage's attire or an open vest. Species created: Cactacae, Magebred animals, Grindylow, Changelings Races made by Tanner: Khepri, vodyanoi, thri-kreen, xixtchtli-kreen, life masters, magebred animals, cactacae, changelings, grindylow, weaver (30) Celeste The Daughter of the Sun setting over the Sea [DR 6] Lesser Deity, Sorceress/Bard 30 Symbol: A stylized rose in full bloom Home: Celestri Alignment: Chaotic good Domain: Charm Portfolio: Love, romance, passion, mind-affecting enchantments Worshippers: Seekers of romance, enchanters Favored weapon: Piercing Desire (Longbow and arrows) Avatar: Celeste appears as a young, radiant woman of elven or human descent. She has merry blue eyes and red hair that bears hues of the setting sun. She carries a lute carved of the finest heartwood and wears a red oak bow as well as a quiver filled with arrows. Creatures Created: Nymphs, faerie dragons (31)Nequelleden Artificer 20 [DR:11], intermediate deity, Gallow's Queen The Hidden one , AP4 Symbol: a pure white feather dripping poison into a pool of blood Home:Hidden Paradise Alignment: neutral evil Domain - Evil,Wrath Portfolio - poison,evil alchemists,execution Worshipers: evil creatures/ executioners/ poisonmakers/ evil alchemists Favored Weapon:The Gallow's embrace (exotic poison) Avatar:a hauntingly beautiful woman with flowing red hair with a black silk robe holding a silver goblet overflowing with blood species created: yochol [32] Auranis [missing] DR: 6, Lesser Diety , Wizard 20/Elemental Savant 14 AP=3 Symbol: A gnome with a circle depicting the elements of air, fire, water, and earth. Home: The void Alignment: Lawful Evil Domains: Gnome Portfolio: Gnomes Worshipers: Gnomes Favored Weapon: Dagger (will be updated if he makes his own weapon) Species created: Genasi [33] Rillmar[ missing] DR: 6, Fighter 34 AP3 Symbol: Three swords forming a triangle, in the middle is a shield Home: The void Alignment: Lawful Evil Domains: Halfling Portfolio: Halflings Worshipers: Halflings, warriors Favored Weapon: Longsword __________________
CombatMedic 08-09-07, 12:36 AM	MUST go to sleep now.
d24478667 08-09-07, 01:10 AM	Wow... Jykil just keeps digging himself a deeper and deeper hole. I wouldn't be surprised if he got killed by people of three different groups at the same time.
Illeveun Bloodblaze 08-09-07, 01:15 AM	I wouldn't either.
d24478667 08-09-07, 01:20 AM	Oh, so you're intentionally playing him as suicidal and/or an idiot. Good to know.
Illeveun Bloodblaze 08-09-07, 01:25 AM	You know when he called Kikik a zealot, that was the pot calling the kettle black, though Jykil is being one in a more peaceful way.
Return of the Flumph 08-09-07, 02:43 AM	Okay. Just so we're all clear: DID the ezera kill dragon babies?
d24478667 08-09-07, 03:14 AM	I may sound like a horribly clichéd gamer (for these boards at least), but when I read your paladin order I was reminded of this. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0479.html) Please note I am not saying this is a bad thing and indeed like the order.
Return of the Flumph 08-09-07, 03:42 AM	They ride dolphins, not sharks. But yeah, I can still see the parallel.
d24478667 08-09-07, 03:44 AM	Destrieth, would it be possible that in Celeste's wanderings around Refuge she chanced upon the wisp, Arteheyn's avatar, and Auranis? Cause I really wonder how Auranis and Celeste would interact...
Destrieth 08-09-07, 04:03 AM	That depends... I think Arteheyn herself is going to meet Celeste, so I'm not sure. Defer to Ewan.
CombatMedic 08-09-07, 08:03 AM	I don't have time to post just now. Must run to work. Will check thread and PMs when I get home. Thanks. -Ewan
d24478667 08-09-07, 10:27 AM	Ah, right. Should have thought about that;I guess I didn't 'cause Arteheyn is currently talking to Frostbite. Is it the new turn yet? I'm pretty sure it should be...
Destrieth 08-09-07, 09:31 PM	Well, with Delfedd not posting yet (and Thursday is almost over) I declare the next turn started.
Delfedd 08-10-07, 02:35 PM	Appologies. My internet was busted.
Illeveun Bloodblaze 08-11-07, 01:19 AM	It might have been just me, but this site didn't seem to work last night. Did anyone else have this problem?
Return of the Flumph 08-11-07, 02:22 AM	I couldn't log on either.
d24478667 08-11-07, 06:27 AM	Worked fine for me.
Delfedd 08-11-07, 01:17 PM	Also, I've got a point. If I don't log on by like... noonish, feel free to start the turn. I like to log in and have a whole bunch of things happen. Second, Flumph, your half dragon is neat. I like the idea. I am going to have a Ezera take the wraithblade to make a cool rivalry thing.
Delfedd 08-11-07, 01:40 PM	Reason for not using the airships is that the hobgoblin captain is keeping them in reserve. The fact that flight outside the ley is possible is known. The fact that the loyalists have flight is not known, and neither is it thought possible that such large ships could fly.
d24478667 08-11-07, 01:46 PM	Fair enough. I wonder waht would happen if several airships aimed their cannons at one spot of the top of the plateau...
Delfedd 08-11-07, 01:51 PM	Well that would be counterproductive as both sides plan on Living in the plateu after.
d24478667 08-11-07, 02:13 PM	Oh yeah, forgot about that.
Delfedd 08-11-07, 04:30 PM	Guys, you may have noticed, but there haven't been a lot of large, earthshattering alterations in the geography of the land all in all. I was thinking, if we're going to use it as a campaign, it will at least start in one particular country. I was planning on mapping out the country where the plateau is better so we can have our war go along without a hitch. So mapping everything else. Yeah. If I where you guys with the maps, I would just take paint and zoom in super close to draw in the tiny lakes and name some towns and forests.
d24478667 08-11-07, 06:35 PM	I have a problem with that. Namely, I use a Mac, so I don't have paint.
Zebppir 08-11-07, 06:41 PM	I have a question how are the drow and is there a construct domain???
Delfedd 08-11-07, 08:46 PM	The drow are mostly in Karkeri under my control, although some of them became sea elves and I believe there is not a construct domain.
Return of the Flumph 08-11-07, 11:57 PM	Sorry, but if there is a construct domain, the Sage gets it. So far, he's made automatons, clockwork drones (like clockwork horrors but not evil), and taught the ezera to make spelljammers. Not to mention that he is a construct. We can both have it, sure, but if someone else gets it then Sage definetely should as well. Also, Delfedd; what was that about the Plainsrunners making contact with the Imp and Cornugan tribes? I thought those were two of the tribes that make up the Plainsrunners?
alchemyprime 08-12-07, 12:03 AM	Um... do I get the Life domain? I made the new plane to be totally full of life... or should I try a bit more?
Delfedd 08-12-07, 09:21 AM	Ah. Sorry, this is confusing because I haven't had an oppertunity to get on paint. The Cornugoni and Imp tribes make up the Plaindwellers, the people that the Plainsrunners split off from hundreds of years ago. The Plaindwellers where the more peaceful folk who stayed behind instead of going to Blights war. This is basically me trying to develop the eastern continent. If you guys have other stuff to go there, feel free to add it.
d24478667 08-13-07, 03:34 PM	Maybe I'll have the Arctic Rose expand onto there. The interesting part is the whole warmer temperature and such, which would cause the arctic rose plants to grow not as well.. hmm..
Zebppir 08-13-07, 06:49 PM	Sorry, but if there is a construct domain, the Sage gets it. So far, he's made automatons, clockwork drones (like clockwork horrors but not evil), and taught the ezera to make spelljammers. Not to mention that he is a construct. We can both have it, sure, but if someone else gets it then Sage definetely should as well. Also, Delfedd; what was that about the Plainsrunners making contact with the Imp and Cornugan tribes? I thought those were two of the tribes that make up the Plainsrunners? so goes the idea of making the clockwork horror :weep: anyway what about hellfire is that taken? is enfermia hell and was there a New divine month recently? and I am confused about the whole related thing can someone make a family tree of the gods???? P.S I'm asking because I don't want to step on anyone's toes
d24478667 08-13-07, 06:55 PM	You know what you could do? Take something from a monster manual, change it, and put it in. That's what the Arctic Rose are; poison dusk lizardfolk with a couple minor twists, such as the pure white coloration.
Zebppir 08-13-07, 07:05 PM	Um... do I get the Life domain? I made the new plane to be totally full of life... or should I try a bit more? when you do can you help me create a new race??? and in a unrelated note Nequlleden is all alone plotting... someone should have at least heard her thought message I mean she is an intermediate goddess:(
Zebppir 08-13-07, 07:08 PM	You know what you could do? Take something from a monster manual, change it, and put it in. That's what the Arctic Rose are; poison dusk lizardfolk with a couple minor twists, such as the pure white coloration. well I was going to create the fiendwurm but it is epic so I guess I make them my heralds if the hellfire wyrm isn't taken......
d24478667 08-13-07, 07:15 PM	Sorry, I must have missed the telepathic message. Ya know, Frostbite did give her a wisp. She could try speaking through that. And who cares if its epic? Make only one be mortal, have another be your herald or something. But yeah, if you want I could help you make a few races.. I still have like 23 AP or something. Gotta leave for a week, I think.
Delfedd 08-13-07, 09:19 PM	I'm pretty sure I sent you a missive. or whatnot Enfermia is essentially hell.
d24478667 08-13-07, 09:46 PM	I was happily wrong about leaving.
Delfedd 08-13-07, 10:27 PM	Sweet.
Destrieth 08-14-07, 10:18 AM	Here's the family tree of the important/active Gods right now. Arteheyn (River Maiden) and Morintu (Skylord, Earthmaster) are married; they have one child, Glykllivar (Sea Empress). Glykllivar was married to Frostbite (Winter dragon), who is Glacieso's Kur-ah's (Meddling jerk/prophet and seer/dead guy) 'son' (correct me if I'm wrong). Glykllivar and Frostbite split, with Gly marrying Kyrinian (Lord of Dreams and Summer) and giving birth to a daughter, Celeste (Love and Enchantments). Kur-ah has some offspring, one of them being Lexius the Blue (Magic n' such) and the other Frostbite. Morintu has/had a brother, Amon (Self-styled god emperor). Amon married Kersys (long since inactive) and created a god of courage and wrath known as Darrius. Darrius split into two goddesses, Alusia (Goddess of Wrath) and her sister Britmara (Goddess of Courage). Alusia has gone through many transitions, picking up domains Fire and Evil along the way. She has since ascended, gaining domain Creation and taken the mantle of semi-benevolent Overdeity. She shunted the Evil out of her, resulting in Nequelleden. There are some miscellaneous Gods hanging about that have no real origin as far as I can remember. Tanner, Sage, Selevern, Latrodectus, the Artifact Lords (they were created by Morintu's artifacts if I recall correctly), the trade god (whom I cannot remember the name of), and Ooulzoth (Oozemaster), are all examples of these gods that sprung into being indirectly. There are several inactive/dead Gods whom I left out because they are just that: gone. They did some stuff but weren't too committed and they vanished, or they were killed. Notables include Avnuk (pitiful necromancy god), Ry'theal (former sun god), and Mirak Nirith (Psions). And that, as far as I know, is the family tree of the current forces in the scheme of things.
Delfedd 08-14-07, 11:07 AM	Hm... Sounds about right. For those involved, what happened with the alien gods from a while back? Are they still around? Cos I've recently had an idea involving them.
Camu 08-14-07, 11:22 AM	I still have something planned for them myself. They still exist, sort of, since all there worshippers are eather dead or taken over by Ooulzoth in the shard worlds.
d24478667 08-14-07, 12:37 PM	You missed Kyrnian, who was also created by Kur-ah.
CombatMedic 08-14-07, 12:50 PM	Hey guys! Did I miss much?
CombatMedic 08-14-07, 01:17 PM	Updates: Tanner is awarded the Life domain. He's created a positive dominant plane, artifacts, and a template for Life Masters- all related to the domain. That's good enough for me. This does not change his portfolio, by the way. Life domain does not mean he has supreme power over all living things. It's more of a way of reflecting his influence over evolutionary and generative processes.
CombatMedic 08-14-07, 01:22 PM	-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- [1] Absaul-rote (Missing) the storyteller [DR:50] Supreme Deity, Bard35/Monk15, [AP:6] Symbol: Quill Home: Void Alignment: Neutral Domains: Creation, Time, Fire, Sun, Cold, Darkness Portfolio: Worshipers: Favored Weapon: Quill (longsword) Avatar: Travelling Storyteller [2] Amon (Dead) [DvR 20] Greater Deity, Cleric/Paladin 47, [AP:6] Symbol: White Staff Home: Haven Alignment: Lawful Neutral Domains: Law, Fate, Good, Knowledge, Death, Dwarf, Dwarf Portfolio: Order, Good, Wisdom, Heroes Worshipers: druids, nomads, scholars, kings, judges, philosophers, paladins, monks, wizards Favored Weapon: Spear of Fate Avatar: An old soldier Species Created: Lung, Merfolk, Titans, Dwarves, Runebound [3] Ahuizotl (Missing) the sleeping god, the man on the moon He who cleaved the world in two [DvR 16] Greater Deity, Barbarian 20/Fighter 20, [AP:5] Symbol: A double-bladed axe Home: pending; (Plane of Light,moon) Alignment: Chaotic Domains: Chaos, Battle, Plants, Moon Portfolio: Chaos Worshipers: Barbarians, Mercenaries, Bandits, Favored Weapon: "Bloodseeker" an obsidian-edged greataxe Avatar: A powerfully built humanoid with the head and fur of a black panther, wearing ornate gold breastplate and wielding a giant-sized axe. Spceis created: protean plants, ahuizotls [4] Kur-ah (Dead) He who saw, Furnace of Foresight [DvR 16] Greater Deity, Druid 20/Wizard (Diviner) 20 Symbol: A heart of molten stone Home: Void Alignment: True Neutral Domains: Fire, Earth, Rune, Knowledge, Dragons Portfolio: Fire, Magma, Earth, Prophecy Worshipers: Druids, Seers, Doomsayers, Dragons Favored Weapon: "The Rock and The Flame" Dire Flail, one stone head, one burning head. Avatar: The shape of an elderly man with beard and wearing robes that are made out of stone. His mouth and eyes glow with the intence fire that is the heart of the world. He has a gaping hole in his chest that shines with the purple light of magic. Species Created: Dragons, Minotaurs, Centaurs, Keepers, Rilmani, Azer, nerra, elemental weirds [5] Arteheyn the River Maiden [DvR 16] Greater Deity, Druid 21 Cleric 20 [AP7] Symbol: a silver scaled fish, a green snake, or a stylized icon depicting a blue river against a green background[ rectangle crossed by a snaking blue line] Home: Earth, Arteheyn's Garden Alignment:Neutral Domains: Water, Animals, Community, Weather, Plants, Spider Portfolio: precipitation , nourishment of living things, rivers Worshipers: farmers, herders , river folk, minotaurs, myconids Favored Weapon: Flail of Sundering[ heavy flail] Avatar: She appears as a fair young woman, clad in simple garb of blue or green. She is barefoot, and leaves watery tracks behind herself. Her silvery hair flows as if she were floating in a stream. Species Created: Tritons, Coautls, Tendriculos, Assassin Vines, Animals and Plants, Oceanic Creatures, Dragons, Desert Plants, Sauguaro Sentinels, myconids, chevalls, Animal Lords, Spiders, mortai, dire animals, giant bugs[ants, bees, etc.], ankhegs, basilisks, dragonnes, shocker lizards, fungoid guardian species[violet fungi, phantom fungi, basidironds, ascomoids], minor deaths, ettercaps, actaeons, talking beasts ,water elementals, cryions, golems,aurumvoraxes [6] Morintu Skylord [DvR 20] Greater Deity, Monk/Druid 41 [AP:6] Symbol: The thousand chains Home: Plane of Air Alignment: Lawful Neutral Domains: Air, Storm, Law, Dragons, Undeath, Fury, Death, Earth Portfolio: Weather, Justice, the Undead Worshipers: Sailors, Druids, Judges, Astrologers, Dragons Favored Weapon: Shackles of Justice (A series of chains which tie him to the stars.) Avatar: A Bipedal, winged Lion with the head of a serpent and hands of a Man. He has a great, whipping serpent's tail. His chains bind him to the universe. He drifts through the world like a dust mote on the wind. Species Created: Vaati, Dragons, Inevitables, Djini, Undead, Liches, Death Knights, Devils, Mummies, Ghouls, Ghasts, Kobolds,gnomes,earth elemntals, air elementals, dretches, abel and abeloks, halflings [7] Ry'theal (Dead) [DR:12] Intermediate Deity, Duskblade 21/Fighter 15, [AP:4] Symbol: A Sun Shining Above a Plateau Home: The Sun Alignment: Chaotic Good Domains: Sun, Pride, Freedom, Protection Portfolio: Worshipers: Warriors Favored Weapon: Ray of Light(Spear) Avatar: An almost dog-like biped, with opposable thumbs, but paws for feet. His fur color is dirty blonde, and instead of a dog face there is one much like an elf, but with two tiny horns on top of his head. Species Created: Solanthi, ramadeen, sun-trees [8] Lexius the Blue [Dvr16] Greater Deity , Wizard 19 Spellthief15 [AP:7] Symbol: Upside-down Crescent Moon, vertically upon that is a maul. Home: Paradise Alignment: Neutral good Domains: Magic, Moon, Liberation, Madness Portfolio: Arcane Magic Worshippers: Wizards, Sorcerers, Ezera, Favored Weapon: Unstoppable Might of Magic (Maul) Avatar: Bipedal Hawlklike Creature, wearing robes, with a maul apon his back Species created: ezera [9] NAME: Akhier (Missing) [DR:9] Lesser Deity, Sorc/psion seer 30 Battle Sorc/Pyrokineticist 4 [AP:7] Symbol: a sideways hourglass Home: Reehier (giant tree) Alignment: Chaotic Neutral Domains: Time, Glory, Portfolio: Worshipers: Seers, Psions, Ystalhier Favored Weapon: staff of the day(a crystal quarterstaff with flaming burst on both ends) Avatar: a constantly changing fluid crystals in the shape of a man that has a warm glow radiating out from him with eyes like 2 suns of intense fire [10] Kersys (Missing) [DR:6] Lesser Deity, Beguiler 20/Swordsage 14 Symbol: A sphere of darkness with an inscribed hourglass, half-filled on each side. Home: Earth Alignment: Lawful Neutral Domains: Time, Darkness Portfolio: Time, night, darkness Worshipers: Rogues, beguilers, thieves, (any that operate by night) Favored Weapon: Nightbringer (two-bladed sword) Avatar: The Night Within: A humanoid form wearing entirely black, almost made out of the substance of darkness and the night sky. In the middle of his back the phases of the moon are inscribed as if they were carved into his very substance. His eyes reflect the night sky, but he has no other facial features. Species Created: Rodents, Dusklings [11] Frostbite [DR]:12 Intermediate Deity Druid 15/Totemist15 [AP:5] Symbol: A white rose on a Snowflake Home: Earth Alignment: Chaotic Good Domain: Winter, Community, Cold Portfolio: Frost, Cold, Community Worshippers: Frost Mages, Arctic Peoples Favored Weapon: Glacieso's Eye (Bow) Avatar:White dragon, with icy wings, teeth, and claws. Species Created: Arctic Rose Lizardfolk, Woodlings, Thrym hounds [12] Kyrinian DR [6] Lesser Deity, Barbarian 14/Ranger 14 Symbol: A red spear striking a green circle and a waning blue crescent Home: Earth Alignment: Chaotic Neutral Domains: Summer, Dream Portfolio: Summer, Moon Worshippers: Favored Weapon: Sword of Summer's Strike (Greatsword) Avatar: A humanoid with the lower body of a wolf, and the upper body of a young man with red hair, green eyes, and the antlers of a deer. His torso is covered with green streaks that that grow and shimmer. Creatures Created: Nereids, Dryads, Glitterhaunts, Lycanthropes, Nightmares, Unicorns, Eladrin, Salamanders, succubi, harpies [13] Name: K’Thymon The Scaled One (Missing) [DR 11] Intermediate Deity Sorcerer 20/Barbarian 21 Home: The Mountains by the Chasm Alignment: Neutral Domains: Dragons Portfolio: Dragons, mountains, fire. Worshippers: Dragons, sorcerers, sentient reptiles, sometimes barbarians. Favored Weapon: Iron Claw (Greatsword) Avatar: A scaled humanoid, wiry and tall (just below Large sized) with scales of many colors, a greatsword strung across his back, and a black robe, and similar eyes that seem to look through everything instead of at it. [14] Glykllivar the sailor, empress of the deep [DvR: 16] Intermediate Deity, Ranger 20/Druid 21 Symbol: a blank flag Home: Lahach Alignment: Chaotic Good Domains: Ocean, Travel, Protection Portfolio: sailors, aquatic beings, the sea in general, etc. Worshipers: Seamen, fishermen, aquatic beings Favored Weapon: a barbed longspear Avatar: A beautiful brown haired female humanoid in naval dress (the sailor), or a bluish female torso with an eel’s head (empress of the deep) Species Created: Dragon Turtles, Sea Giants, Morkoths, Ocean Giants, Sea Elves, [15]NAME: Pholtone (Dead) [DR:11] Intermediate Deity, rogue 20/ ninja 15 [4 AP] Symbol: a hand grasping a red orb Home: plane of light Alignment: Chaotic Neutral Domains: Chaos, Moon, Healing Portfolio:chaos, light, moon Worshipers: barbarians, mercenaries, Favored Weapon: the fingernail (kukri) Avatar: a creature (the most common race in the area) with a large hand and a wrist instead of a head and a neck Creatures Created: Athachs, Slaad [16] Kakavindus (Missing) The False Dragon [DvR: 16] Greater Deity, Rogue 20/Wizard 20 [AP: 8] Symbol: Black four-pointed star Home: Karkeri (Plane of Evil) Alignment: Neutral Evil Domains: Evil, Destruction Portfolio: Violence, all manner of evil Worshippers: Evil creatures, some Wind Dukes, Worgs, Yugoloths Favored weapon: “Corrupting Edge,” a poisoned falchion Avatar: A dark humanoid possessing the face and claws of a wolf, the wings of a black dragon, and a reptilian tail tipped with a stinger. Creatures Created: Worgs, Yugoloths, Gnolls [17] Alusia The Golden Lady, Watcher of Creation [DR:21] Supreme deity, Warblade 30 [AP:10] Symbol: A broken sword Home: Gorgild Alignment: Lawful Neutral Domain: Wrath, Retribution, Fire, Creation Portfolio: - Worshippers: None Favored weapon: The Quill of Creation (Longsword) Avatar: The avatar of Alusia is a white-skinned humanoid female clad in golden flowing garments. Golden light pours from eyes like pools of mercury and golden steam wafts from her nose and mouth. Creatures Created: MM Angels, Werelions, Hobgoblins, Vengeance Fey, Fire Elementals [18] NAME: Avnuk (Dead) [DR: 6] Lesser Deity, Wizard 24 / Psion (savant) 10 Symbol: A skull of a dragon, with Bright red eyes Home: Anacrix Alignment: Neutral Domains: Necromancy, Deathbound Portfolio: Death, Undeath, Power, Corruption Worshipers: Necromancers, Cultists Favored Weapon: Reach Of Corruption (staff) Avatar: A young, pale, Black robed man with one bright red eye and a skeletal hand. Creatures Created: Vampires [19] NAME: Kethvok (Missing) [DR: 11] Intermediate Deity, fighter 30 / assassin 8 Symbol: Two axes forming a cross, in front of a broken shield Home: Void Alignment: Evil Domains: War, Hatred Portfolio: Death, Destruction, War Worshipers: Warriors Favored Weapon: Fanged Slayer (Claymore) Avatar: A large Male orc, with numerous scars all over his body. He wears tough leather armor, adorned with the skulls of various creatures Creatures Created: Orcs [20] Name: Elvunil (Missing) [DR:15] Intermediate Deity, Bard30/Monk10, [AP:4] Symbol: A red book, with a white eye in the center Home: Void Alignment: Neutral Domains: Pact, Oracle Portfolio: The future, present, and past, alliances Worshipers: Sages, and knowledge seekers. Favored Weapon: the Fist Avatar: Travelling Monk. Long white hair, and deep blue eyes and a look of knowledge on his face. [21]Corwyn (Missing) [DR:6] Gestalt Rogue/Sorc 30 Symbol: Golden Triangle with mouth-like semi circle inside. Home: Void Alignment: Chaotic Neutral Domain - Trickery Portfolio - Deceit, Seduction, and Wit Worshipers: Con men, seducers, and flatterers Favored Weapon: Razor Wit - Rapier Avatar: He appears it whatever form the local populace has. However, he always appears as an incredibly beautiful androgynous being, whose sex is questionable. He always pays attention to what is most fashionable for the populace, and wears only the most fashionable clothes. [22]Father Blight (Dead) [DR:11] Intermediate Deity, Cleric 20, rogue 15, [AP:4] Symbol: A gold ring Home: Void Alignment: Chaotic Evil Domains: Pestilance, Vile Darkness, Madness Portfolio: Sickness, monsters, challanges, danger, threats, evolution of good, degridation of evil. Worshipers: Blighters, rogues, cultists, (dogma has little apeal to most evil creatures) Favored Weapon: Thrusting hand (punching dagger) Avatar: Humanoid dressed in smart and neat black clothes that are at the height of fashion in the area, Left half handsom but cold with sholder length black hair, blue eye and neat moustash, right half degraded rotting slime and puss covered body with a white eye and stingy grey hair. Right hand is gloved. Creatures Created: Dopplegangers, Hags, Goblins, Rakshasa, Derro 23]NAME: Ooulzoth He-who-Hungers, The Faceless Lord, Lord of Nothing,… [DR:18] Intermediate Deity, Cleric20/Oozemaster15, [AP:9] Symbol:A Worm with tentacles. Home: Void Alignment: Neutral Evil (maybe a bit to the chaotic) Domains: Hunger, Slime, Destruction Portfolio: hunger, slimes, oozes, jellies Worshipers: (anyone foolish enough) Favored Weapon:Tentacle or Pseudopod or Artifact Symbiotes Avatar:It looks like a giant worm with tentacles. It's skin is made out of a black an purple looking crust, whitch constantly shifts and cracks, and oozes out green slime.Thousands of small eyes cover it’s body. On it’s back are several volcano-like structures that constantly emit a purple black cloud of spores. Another form is that of a faceless humanoid made entirely of ooze and slime. It has tendrils and tentacles for hair. He wears several symbiotes, a red gauntlet on his right hand, a dark tentacled bracer on his left, a dark armor with a hive like structure and 2 worm tentacles. He also has a mask that also has no face on it. Creatures Created: Demodands, kythons, tsochar, neogi, chuul, grell, Void ships, Voidlings, mindflayers of Thoon [24]Britmara [DR: 6] lesser deity Crusader level 30 Symbol: A small bird perched atop a upright sword's point, against a background formed by an azure shield clustered with seven silver stars. Home: Haven Alignment: Neutral Good [leaning toward LG] Domain: Courage Portfolio: courage , hope, defense of the weak and the innocent Worshippers: good folk beset by evil, soldiers entering righteous battle, crusaders and zealots who oppose evil Favored weapon: Merciful Stroke[bastard sword] Avatar: Her avatar appears as a female humanoid , beautiful and athletic with an softly radiant halo about her entire form. She wears partial plate and mail armor of graceful and lightweight design. A shield is strapped on her left arm. She carries a sword at her side. Her hair is like burnished copper, and her eyes are are solid orbs of blackness. Creatures Created: Lupins, Havenite Harriers [Arcadian Avengers] [25]NAME:Therias Lord of Trade, Coin's Soul [DR:6] wizard5/expert10/fighter10 Symbol: A coin with a ship engraving. Home: Void Alignment: Neutral Domains: Commerce [I think its called that] Portfolio: Trade, traders, economy in general Worshipers:Merchants, caravanists Favored Weapon: Light Crossbow Avatar: A tall middle-aged man with eerie eyes. (The eyeballs are shaped like coins.) He wears richly embroidered clothes. [26]NAME: Mirath Nirik (Missing) Thought Seer, The Mind Bender. [DR:6] Lesser Diety, Psion 20/Mindspy 10 Symbol: A green spark shaped like a circle on a purple backround. Home: Void Alignment: Chaotic Neutral Domains: Mind Portfolio: Psions, Refugees Worshipers:- Psions, Psychic Monsters Favored Weapon: His Mind Avatar:- A young man, slightly tanned, wearing leather pants and many belts. He has no hair and a green tatoo on his face. [27] NAME: Sage [DR: 6] Lesser Deity: Illusionist 20 / Psion 7 / Loremaster 7 Symbol: A metal anulis Home: Disc City (sort of) Alignment: Lawful Good Domains: Illusion, Knowledge Portfolio: illusion magic, psionics, science, lore Worshipers: natural philosophers, sane psions, some humans Favored Weapon: AMMA-61 Disruption Rod (quarterstaff) Avatar: A hovering, holographic human face made up of numerous transcluscent spheres. He can also speak through his old body in Disc City, which is a metal cube covered in interface modules, plasma screen moniters, and microholoprojectors. Creatures Created: -automatons,clockroaches, gith [28]Selevern The Bloodborn, Freedom-Giver, Elf-Father [DvR 16] Rogue 20/Dread Commando 14/ Incarnate 2 AP:6 Home: Prime Material Alignment: Neutral Good Symbol: A Longsword breaking a Chain Domains:Freedom, Elf, Courage, Transformation, Incarnum Portfolio: Gurrellia Tatics, Defending the Weak, Freedom from Tyrants, Elves Worshippers: Rebels, Gurrellia Fighters,Elves Favored Weapon: The Strike of Freedom(Longsword) Avatar: An Elven man clad in full breastplate with blood red cloth covering the leggings and bright red hair. Spcies crated:elves, totem giants, incarnum dragons [29] Tanner The Chrysallis, The Clay, He who Causes Ripples in the Pond [DR:6] Transmuter 17 (Prohibited: Enchantment and Necromancy)/Egoist 12/Rogue3/Cleric 2 Symbol: Butterfly Home: Refuge (for now) Alignment: Chaotic Neutral Domains: Transformation, Life Portfolio: Evolution of creatures Worshipers: Transmuter, philanderers, scholars (those concerned with evolution), egoists Favored Weapon: Whip or Natural Weapon Avatar: A humanoid of whatever is most adaptable to the reigon, constantly adapting to the new environment, such as suddenly the ears becomeing more elf like, or a nose becoming orcish when a good smell comes by then returning to a human nose, hair color changing, switching from male to female or vice versa, etc. Normally dressed in a white coat, though occasionally dressed in mage's attire or an open vest. Species created: Cactacae, Magebred animals, Grindylow, Changelings (30) Celeste The Daughter of the Sun setting over the Sea [DR 6] Lesser Deity, Sorceress/Bard 30 Symbol: A stylized rose in full bloom Home: Celestri Alignment: Chaotic good Domain: Charm Portfolio: Love, romance, passion, mind-affecting enchantments Worshippers: Seekers of romance, enchanters Favored weapon: Piercing Desire (Longbow and arrows) Avatar: Celeste appears as a young, radiant woman of elven or human descent. She has merry blue eyes and red hair that bears hues of the setting sun. She carries a lute carved of the finest heartwood and wears a red oak bow as well as a quiver filled with arrows. Creatures Created: Nymphs (31)Nequelleden Artificer 20 [DR:11], intermediate deity, Gallow's Queen The Hidden one , AP4 Symbol: a pure white feather dripping poison into a pool of blood Home:Hidden Paradise Alignment: neutral evil Domain - Evil,Wrath Portfolio - poison,evil alchemists,execution Worshipers: evil creatures/ executioners/ poisonmakers/ evil alchemists Favored Weapon:The Gallow's embrace (exotic poison) Avatar:a hauntingly beautiful woman with flowing red hair with a black silk robe holding a silver goblet overflowing with blood [32] Auranis DR: 6, Lesser Diety , Wizard 20/Elemental Savant 14 AP=3 Symbol: A gnome with a circle depicting the elements of air, fire, water, and earth. Home: The void Alignment: Lawful Evil Domains: Gnome Portfolio: Gnomes Worshipers: Gnomes Favored Weapon: Dagger (will be updated if he makes his own weapon) Species created: Genasi [33] Rillmar DR: 6, Fighter 34 AP3 Symbol: Three swords forming a triangle, in the middle is a shield Home: The void Alignment: Lawful Evil Domains: Halfling Portfolio: Halflings Worshipers: Halflings, warriors Favored Weapon: Longsword
Delfedd 08-14-07, 03:04 PM	Alright. This is getting out of hand. We need a freaking name for the "earth" I suggest we all come up with at least one name for the material plane. On thursday at the begining of the new month, we'll vote Here's mine, Rupicentia.
CombatMedic 08-14-07, 03:12 PM	Defledd - Alright. This is getting out of hand. We need a freaking name for the "earth" I suggest we all come up with at least one name for the material plane. On thursday at the begining of the new month, we'll vote Here's mine, Rupicentia. I agree 100%. I'll edit this post to include my suggestion in a little while [after i think something up;) .
d24478667 08-14-07, 04:13 PM	Same as above.
Kirtanus_Albacron 08-14-07, 04:57 PM	Destrieth, Lexius is the offspring of Ryth'eal, and so is Selevern.
d24478667 08-14-07, 05:53 PM	Wait, if Enfermia is basically hell, what does that make Frostbite?
Delfedd 08-14-07, 06:53 PM	some guy who wants to be friends with satan? Psionics/magic transparancy?
d24478667 08-14-07, 06:56 PM	I resemble that remark! ;) I vote for; if this campaign is going to be something people run, I'd probably run it, and I don't want to deal with that hassle. Call me lazy if you want.
CombatMedic 08-14-07, 07:27 PM	I vote yes on psi /magic transparency. It's simpler.
Delfedd 08-14-07, 08:49 PM	I think that the Plainsrunners "will be lynched" theory is not true. I mean logically, they've been working together, and even though they may not like each other but the swords and shoulders showed their support of the Plainsrunners. They're willing to go to any measure to fight off the shackles of an unwanted government, even ally themselves with Plainsrunners. This has already been done. The Swords believed they would gain control, and they plan to do so. The shoulders are afraid of the swords, but are more afraid that the next government will just be the same.
CombatMedic 08-14-07, 10:25 PM	I modified my last post. Looked back into our earlier posts about the two factions. The Fists were lynching Morintuists. The Swords[ being terrorists;) were attacking ordinary citizens for not being anti-government enough.
Destrieth 08-15-07, 01:23 AM	Destrieth, Lexius is the offspring of Ryth'eal, and so is Selevern. My mistake.
Return of the Flumph 08-15-07, 02:28 AM	The alien gods took over an abandoned plane (that horrible dragon demiplane) and have been hunkered down in there ever since. Strange aeons and so forth. My suggestion for the world name: Roteheim. As in, "Rote's land." Also, who exactly is winning the war? Is it the side allied with the goblins, or not?
Destrieth 08-15-07, 11:15 AM	Not to club WW's Exalted over the head, but how about calling our world Creation? We are, after all, The Lords of Creation.
Delfedd 08-15-07, 03:18 PM	It's alright. Something else we should be thinking about is making a timeline. We've got to figure out how old the world will be. Also, tomorrow is year three, so increasing DvR doubles in cost.
d24478667 08-15-07, 03:33 PM	Actually, I'm pretty sure we voted against it. I remember I did and Ewan did, but I don't know who voted for.
Kirtanus_Albacron 08-15-07, 04:16 PM	For the world's name, here is my idea: Naelen, or Nailen. Anyways, I think there should be no psionic/magic transparancy, because even though Lexius is a god magic too, Lexius made psionics some crystal in the sky, and psionics originally was a disease. If psionics was still a leyline, then I would say there should be a magic/psionics transparancy.
Delfedd 08-15-07, 05:08 PM	Destrieth and myself. so a tie. curses.
d24478667 08-15-07, 05:11 PM	So in a tie, it defaults to doing nothing, correct? Hence it doesn't change. Unless anyone else has votes?
Camu 08-15-07, 05:14 PM	I don't really think it would change much, so I'm fine as it is now
Return of the Flumph 08-15-07, 05:31 PM	I vote for it. We have enough greater gods already.
alchemyprime 08-15-07, 06:37 PM	Hey, I just thought that Life was part of evolution anyway. I'm fine with just the domain. However, there are some domains I like that i'd need portfolio aspects for... don't worry, I have other plans first. Now, as for naming the world, I like Nailen better, but Rupicentia has more of an exotic flair. So I vote for Delfedd's name. Besides, now my clerics have two domains without doing pantheon worship! :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :( :D :D :D The middle was a cleric of Tanner/Therias. He doesn't feel special anymore.
Zebppir 08-15-07, 06:54 PM	Destrieth and myself. so a tie. curses. you forgot that I voted it isn't a tie i am against it
Return of the Flumph 08-15-07, 06:59 PM	Zepbir, about the clockwork horrors. The Sage only made mindless, servile automotons (only the weakest type of clockwork horror, and without an int score) to guard the ezera spelljammers. If you want to make actual, bona fide HORRORS, go right ahead; perhaps Nequelledon can use Sage's machines as an inspiration for her new race, or even grant sentience to the extant ones and have a Rise of the Machines scenario.
Zebppir 08-15-07, 07:01 PM	Sorry, I must have missed the telepathic message. Ya know, Frostbite did give her a wisp. She could try speaking through that. And who cares if its epic? Make only one be mortal, have another be your herald or something. But yeah, if you want I could help you make a few races.. I still have like 23 AP or something. Gotta leave for a week, I think. how would frostbite send it one neqelleden was in the void before she created hidden paradise and it is hidden from both gods and heralds to me a wisp is a herald or can someone update me on this anyway still no one has answered my question is hellfire taken?? because to my knowledge it hasn't even been mentioned
Return of the Flumph 08-15-07, 07:06 PM	Hellfire is open, I'm pretty sure.
Zebppir 08-15-07, 07:15 PM	Zepbir, about the clockwork horrors. The Sage only made mindless, servile automotons (only the weakest type of clockwork horror, and without an int score) to guard the ezera spelljammers. If you want to make actual, bona fide HORRORS, go right ahead; perhaps Nequelledon can use Sage's machines as an inspiration for her new race, or even grant sentience to the extant ones and have a Rise of the Machines scenario. :plotting: :evillaugh I would love to though if sage has the ability to control them I'll wind up like the necromantic god morintu ate which I wonder what did he taste like:D
Return of the Flumph 08-15-07, 07:17 PM	Not a concern. Sage didn't even literally make the clockwork drones, he just taught the ezera of the Merchant States how to build them. Sure, I could spend AP to drive them nuts, but so could anyone to any race.
Zebppir 08-15-07, 07:22 PM	Perfect now I just have to wait for a new divine month unless I missed one somewhere:confused:
d24478667 08-15-07, 07:25 PM	6*9=54. Thought you said that Tanner ascended at the age of 42. Unless you're doing the Douglass Adams thing? Also, is Nequelleden going to respond to Frostbite?
Zebppir 08-15-07, 07:31 PM	as soon as I find the post
d24478667 08-15-07, 07:37 PM	P. 114, post 3411.
Zebppir 08-15-07, 07:58 PM	thanks
Delfedd 08-15-07, 10:32 PM	:plotting: :evillaugh I would love to though if sage has the ability to control them I'll wind up like the necromantic god morintu ate which I wonder what did he taste like:D Peaches 'n' cream. Speaking of the Douglas Adams can that stop? Tanner would be a lot cooler without the "fourty two" obsession IMO.
d24478667 08-15-07, 10:44 PM	I'd have to say I agree with Delfedd on this one. The 42 stuff is a lot funnier in the books; now it seems like you can't decide how you want him, a joke or serious.
Return of the Flumph 08-16-07, 12:42 AM	Thirded. The forty-two thing was a fun alusion at first, but its gotten out of hand.
d24478667 08-16-07, 03:24 AM	Wisps are messengers. They lock on to the god(ess) they are sent to, and leave for said god(ess) automatically. The way Frostbite found Rythe'al was following the wisp sent to him.
CombatMedic 08-16-07, 12:47 PM	I'm pretty sure Hellfire is wide open.
d24478667 08-16-07, 12:52 PM	Please update Frostbite to DvR 19, AP 6 when you have the chance, Ewan.
Camu 08-16-07, 02:40 PM	now that we are in year 3 , will there be a change in what gods can an can't do, or will it just be the same as in year 2
Delfedd 08-16-07, 03:24 PM	I vote yes. Also, technically I did create hellfire in Lux when I made the Wightblade. Should I have spent AP?
Return of the Flumph 08-16-07, 03:54 PM	Aw, let her have it.
d24478667 08-16-07, 04:35 PM	I concur.
Return of the Flumph 08-16-07, 04:43 PM	Guys, I'd like a hand with something. The underwater world is boring. During the building of the coral city, it looked like aquatic campaigns might be feasible, but at this point there's not much to do down there. Glykllivar is good, and thus unlikely to cause anything bad to happen in the sea, so someone else will have to mix things up. Latrodectus was going to, but then Riverrock quit. I'm not saying I want a huge, underwater war or massacre, but I'd like there to be something for adventurers to do underwater by the end of year three. Thanks.
Delfedd 08-16-07, 05:02 PM	I was going to give it to her anyway. I'm just saying it's already been created. Luxfire? I'm sure I could engineer something. *plots* The ascended have some interesting potential to create underwater tension. New, intellegent races invading anywhere is a good storyline. Perhaps they could establish stuff there (underwater) as well. Could you perhaps divide things up into countries underwater? Some politics would be neat. Oh, just in case anyone hasn't noticed yet, check out the D&D main page. Fourth edition? If it's anything like Saga, I'm excited.
d24478667 08-16-07, 05:06 PM	Yeah, I was about to say that, seeing as the Ascended made submersibles.
Camu 08-16-07, 05:08 PM	Well I'm starting to feel the same with the shard worlds, but I'm almost at the point that i can close the shard world chapter and focus my god on the primary world again
Delfedd 08-16-07, 05:29 PM	Well, we don't know too much about the shard worlds. If you could flesh them out... OH! I had an awesome idea about those future humans. They are from a shard world as well! The world had not enough time in it, and so it was forced to run hyperfast or something. Eventually they created voidcraft (or whatever) and flew out into the void, eventually finding the... er... material plane. The mind flayers followed them and... It's perfect! It eliminates the time travel, while keeping the story together! Also, the voting time is almost up for the name.
d24478667 08-16-07, 05:32 PM	I'd have to go with Destrieth's 'Creation'
Camu 08-16-07, 05:34 PM	I wouldn't keep the future story No, i still have some plans with the shard world, don't worry, I'm just saying I'm almost ready to post the final piece about it
Zebppir 08-16-07, 06:18 PM	I vote yes. Also, technically I did create hellfire in Lux when I made the Wightblade. Should I have spent AP? (I sent a wisp to you inviting you to enfermia. FYI.) when??? do you have to create everything thats fun???
Zebppir 08-16-07, 06:22 PM	I'd have to go with Destrieth's 'Creation' I concur
d24478667 08-16-07, 06:25 PM	He did say you can have hellfire, Zebppir.
Zebppir 08-16-07, 06:36 PM	Zepbir, about the clockwork horrors. The Sage only made mindless, servile automotons (only the weakest type of clockwork horror, and without an int score) to guard the ezera spelljammers. If you want to make actual, bona fide HORRORS, go right ahead; perhaps Nequelledon can use Sage's machines as an inspiration for her new race, or even grant sentience to the extant ones and have a Rise of the Machines scenario. :dancin: :evillaugh I just might:D
Zebppir 08-16-07, 06:41 PM	He did say you can have hellfire, Zebppir. Yes my plans are back on track again thanks D:) Lexfire sounds interesting
d24478667 08-16-07, 06:43 PM	Were you thanking me or Delfedd, seeing as it was Delfedd's decision.
Zebppir 08-16-07, 06:59 PM	Were you thanking me or Delfedd, seeing as it was Delfedd's decision. its open to selective debate
Delfedd 08-17-07, 11:27 PM	:P Also, the gnomes in this campaign are a bit over the top. They weren't supposed to bind elementals to spaceships or whatever. They're not supposed to have magetech. They're supposed to be elementalists.
d24478667 08-18-07, 01:05 AM	I did tell you ahead of time, and you said (paraphrased) "Okay, sounds cool."
Return of the Flumph 08-18-07, 12:30 PM	Okay guys, I had this most craz idea...but it might just be zany enough to work. Camu says he's been wanting to develop the shardworlds, right? Okay. I propose we create a spinoff of LoC called "Shardworld." It will have its own thread and such. In this setting, aberrations hold dominance over the dozens of free-floating planetoids, and the humanoid races live in fear, struggling from day to day just to survive. Ooulzoth is the supreme diety of this setting, with other gods being native dieties who agreed to submit to the Lord of Hunger's rule, or creations of the above. Transportation between Shardworld and Creation is possible via spelljammer, but the journey is long and perilous. Basically, this setting would be a cross between Dark Sun and Call of Cthulhu. Playable races should include humans (I like delfedd's idea about humans having originated in shardworld) and perhaps some other humanoid races that have the same stats as PHB races but look different and have different fluff. Anyone?
d24478667 08-18-07, 12:47 PM	I like it. Only problem? Where the hell are we gonna get a spelljammer? Unless it was developed in the Shardworlds. (I am tired, so if someone already said something about there being a spelljammer and I forgot it, I apologize. Also, what's a spelljammer? I have gotten the impression that is basically an inter-planar and inter-setting airship. Am I wrong?)
Return of the Flumph 08-18-07, 12:51 PM	Ooulzoth has already made bioships that are capable of interstellar travel, and Sage probably knows how to make them seeing as he is one himself.
d24478667 08-18-07, 12:59 PM	My apologies then. I stand corrected.
Camu 08-18-07, 01:40 PM	Well I love that idea, it would be fun to see that world get some more attention Already have a couple ideas for other gods and i'm working on a small intro that explains a bit of how the shard worlds came to be But if we gonna do this I would like to ask to wait till the start of september, because after this weekend i have 2 weeks exams (yes i failed on a couple that i have to redo :weep: )
Return of the Flumph 08-18-07, 03:01 PM	Sure, that's fine. Also, should we start at the point where ooulzoth first finds the shardworld, where he finishes conquering it, where the planet first gets shattered, or from its creation by Absaul-Rote?
d24478667 08-18-07, 03:19 PM	I'd go with the point where Ooulzoth conquered them, if Ooulzoth is going to be the main god. Off-topic, but I wonder how Glykllivar would react to Nequelleden liking Frostbite. My bet? She wouldn't care. The funny part? Frostbite will try to find out how she feels about it.
Return of the Flumph 08-18-07, 04:15 PM	Ooulzoth is the main god, but he wasn't always the main god. The cool thing about Creation is how organic everything is; all the ancient civilizations have actually had playtime, the circumstances that led to the building of artifacts chronicled in realtime, etc. I would like to preserve this with Shardworld, and it would be hard to do that without starting from the beginning. It can be much younger than Creation, but still, I would really like it if we built it from the ground up. We can have a preordained number of divine months before the cataclysm that shatters the world is scheduled to go down. We will spend the later part of those months causing the events that result in the catastrophe (whatever those are; Camu said he had an idea). Once the explosion or whatever occurs, most of the gods will either die (if the player is willing to give up a character) or else lose a large number of divine ranks, so that none will be able to challenge Ooulzoth when he invades. Glykllivar has never met Nequelledon, and is thus not likely to feel strongly about her either way.
d24478667 08-18-07, 04:19 PM	That is true. Hah! I was right; then again, I suppose it wasn't to hard to guess.
Camu 08-18-07, 04:59 PM	Ok, here's the main idea in short. The creator of our world/realm is depicted as a writer, so every realm he created is like a page in a storybook. With what happens in that realm, the story of the page. The shard worlds is the page that came before our realm. However things escalated in that realm that the creator didn't like, so he removed the page from the book. However he didn't do a clean job, and part of the page remained, resulting in a ravaged world. The creator then moved to write the next page Well this is in a symbolic way what happened ;)
CombatMedic 08-18-07, 06:53 PM	Palimpsest
CombatMedic 08-18-07, 07:54 PM	The wife and I just had our church wedding and reception[ two years into the marriage- better late than never!]. The [second] honeymoon starts after Monday. Rhode Island. Should be fun. I'm going to visit Howard Phillips Lovecraft's grave in Providence. Anyway, I won't be posting a whole lot next week, and I wanted to let y'all know about it, so no one thought I had quit. -Ewan
d24478667 08-18-07, 08:03 PM	Congratulations! (Wait is that the right word?) Well, cool for you anyway. Have a good time.
Return of the Flumph 08-18-07, 08:43 PM	Wait, so were you technically married before, or not? Either way, visiting HPL's grave has got to be one of the most badass honeymoon ideas I will ever hear of. Have fun.
Delfedd 08-18-07, 11:37 PM	Anyway, I don't think Shardworlds should happen until after Lords is done. Too much on the plate at once.
Delfedd 08-18-07, 11:41 PM	Also. I've been thinking, and I realized that the planes aren't really connected. Planar travel physically has been intruiging to me, and I think we should work on it. Normal D&D has the styx, Yggdrassil, the world serpent inn, Sigil, and others. Lets try working on something like that, physical ties between the planes. It certainly doesn't have to be all of them.
Return of the Flumph 08-18-07, 11:48 PM	You know, that's actually what I had in mind when I created Lahach...but then I realized that portals cost AP. Glykllivar has the Travel domain (not sure why, but Evil DM randomly gave it to me) and I wanted Lahach to be a useful means of planar travel, with different passageways leading to different planes. As it is, its connected to Celeste's plane, the Dreamrealms, and two locations on the Prime, but I really want it to be linked to more, to REALLY be a means of travel. Perhaps we should rethink the ridiculous 2 AP cost for portals. Making a permanent gate is something a high level wizard can do every day as long as he has XP to burn. It should not cost the same amount of AP as creating a new race. About the Shardworlds: Camu has already said he won't be able to do it for a while, so its nothing to be worrying about in the near future anyway.
Delfedd 08-18-07, 11:56 PM	Well, you where made to be the goddess of sailors. So... yeah. Well this is a juncture. I think that many portals are a good idea. However, each portal can only be opened by a willing individual performing a ritual. Portals where more important at the begining of the game, when forces of angels and devils rode out willy-nilly. But I agree with Flumph. We could reduce it to just one. But portals have to be something from now on. They can't just be blank spaces in a wall or whatever. Like mine. I'll work on that.
Return of the Flumph 08-19-07, 04:59 AM	I never envisioned the Lahach gates as blank spaces anyway, so we're good on that. The portal near Kur-ah's mountain is an impact crater half filled with water. At the water line is a cave entrance that is half submerged. Sail or swim through the cave, and you will be in Lahach. Since Lahach is a big half flooded cave system, you wouldn't even notice the point at which you leave the prime. The portal in Ur-Kaz's forest is a massive, ornate, rune carved door on the side of a cliff. The door opens and leads into a tunnel. Go through the tunnel, and you will be in Lahach. As with the above, its hard to tell where exactly the portal is, as the plane looks very much like the tunnel it is connected to. The portal to the Dreamrealms is in the Sea of Dawn, in a grotto made of that sparkly stuff that the glitterhaunts collect. Enter the grotto, and the cave walls will become less crystalline and more stony, until it is just gray rock...which means you have reached Lahach. I don't know enough of the geography of Celeste's plane to have a description of that one.
CombatMedic 08-19-07, 02:13 PM	RotF : Wait, so were you technically married before, or not? Either way, visiting HPL's grave has got to be one of the most badass honeymoon ideas I will ever hear of. Have fun. Ruth and I have been married since July 14th, 2005. We had a courthouse wedding and quick honeymoon on the Oregon Coast. I deployed to Iraq for OIF4 soon afterward. The big Catholic ceremony and reception with all the family and friends had to wait till I was back in country and out of the Army.
d24478667 08-19-07, 02:23 PM	Put a C'thulu plushie on his grave for me, will ya? I think that would be hilarious myself.
alchemyprime 08-19-07, 05:56 PM	6*9=54. Thought you said that Tanner ascended at the age of 42. Unless you're doing the Douglass Adams thing? Also, is Nequelleden going to respond to Frostbite? That was the joke... you knew the joke, and questioned it... *sigh* Tanner occasionally counts in base 13 as well. But he also uses base 10 and base 6.
alchemyprime 08-19-07, 06:01 PM	Also, if no one called dibs or made them yet, I call dibs on binders!
d24478667 08-19-07, 06:02 PM	Well, I was checking. I wasn't sure.
Delfedd 08-19-07, 06:56 PM	Binders are out of the reach of gods.
CombatMedic 08-19-07, 07:16 PM	There's more than one way we can do binders. The fluff can be altered. Are the binders going to work with vestiges, or are they going to bind other entities[ ghosts, demons, nightmares, angels, whatever]? As ToM suggests, there is more than one way to introduce and use binders in a campaign.
d24478667 08-19-07, 07:16 PM	Ooo... I like that, Ewan.
Return of the Flumph 08-19-07, 07:33 PM	If we do decide to go the vestige route instead of the ghost/demon/angel route, we should rule that all dead gods become vestiges. Thus, Blight, Amon, Avnuk, Kur-ah, Rytheal, and Glascieso would all have vestiges.
CombatMedic 08-19-07, 07:47 PM	I agree with RotF about using the dead gods if we don't go with my suggestion. Either way could be cool. Naturally, I am inclined towards my own notion. Don't forget the evil storm giant ghosts/loa; the ones that Rivverrock introduced before he retired from play. They'd make a great source of power for binders from the Vile Swamps. This would be just one example of my 'lesser spirits' model.
alchemyprime 08-19-07, 07:53 PM	Mmm... I was thinking binders using vestiges, including our own replacement for Karsus: a leftover from when Tanner was a demigod (he didn't just jump to lesser, he spent some time as a demigod). Karsus renamed into Korvan, the Forty-Third. My explanation: Tanner has been trying to fix his own schizophrenia for sometime. Gallant/Jeff, Madness, Life, Death, Logic and Beast are the leftovers from when he had dozens of personalties. Korven actually got shunted from the body (because 43 cannot go into 42. Like the square block and the round hole.) I agree in using the old gods. So, since no one has done it, I know just how Tanner will. Let me go post it.
Camu 08-19-07, 08:01 PM	Creating new forms of magic is popular it seems Just created Ooulzoth's new form of casting, which depends on the use of symbiotic creatures I'll post the system i worked out for it later Would this also grand me the still to be invented domain: Symbiote
d24478667 08-19-07, 08:11 PM	I wonder what powers Glacieso would give...
Delfedd 08-19-07, 08:36 PM	It could grant that. The symbyote thing seems very Vestige-like. VERY. Why can't we have several different versions of Binding? Like... binders make a moral decision about what they are going to do if they even know about the different versions.
d24478667 08-19-07, 09:44 PM	Oh come on; I created the original set of Symbionts. Yeah, that's right. I even said Arctic Rose and the arctic rose plant are Symbionts. Then again, Ooulzoth created more. And honestly? I don't much care about the Symbiont domain.
Zebppir 08-19-07, 09:51 PM	Creating new forms of magic is popular it seems Just created Ooulzoth's new form of casting, which depends on the use of symbiotic creatures I'll post the system i worked out for it later Would this also grand me the still to be invented domain: Symbiote true the only D&D god to do the same is Kyuss go ahead and do it
Camu 08-20-07, 04:01 AM	Symbiote 'casting' would be different fom vestige binding in that you can carry a lot more of them in the end. I see them more closely to the rules of incarnum magic. Each symbiont will have one or two passive ability's. A 'Host' gets a number of nutrient points a day which he can feed to his symbiotes, which allows you to use stronger ability's of that symbiont. The more you spend in one, the stronger the effect it will produce. The nutrient pool is a special reserve the 'Host' gets to feed the symbionts. If this pool is depleted, he can still use the greater ability's, but it will cost more, namely, points from your ability score, which makes overuse dangerous. To d24478667: Sorry, forgot all about the artic rose. You created the concept symbiosis and the first symbiotic relation, while Ooulzoth now created the group of creatures like the few that can be found in Fiend Folio For the domain, it would be like the domain of magic or binding, but then for casting with symbionts
d24478667 08-20-07, 04:06 AM	... That is actually a really cool idea. I salute you, Camu. I was joking about the Arctic Rose thing...
CombatMedic 08-20-07, 02:52 PM	I am not averse to introducing a Symbiote domain. I would ask that Camu post it, so we can all see that is is fairly balanced.
Camu 08-21-07, 11:27 AM	Ok it still needs some work and it will only be finished when I can completely work out my symbiont casting system There will be a main symbiote casting class A warrior type that still also uses a small selection of symbiotes (ala paladin & ranger) For priests I was thinking of a class that can cast a small number of divine spells (up to lvl 6 spells, like a bard) and that can also use some symbiotes. This class can eather use 2 normal domains or choose the symbiont domain Symbiont Domain: This will grand the caster a small number of aditional nutrient points (probably 2 or so, depending on the final balancing of the system). For the domain spells, either I create some spells that eather heal or boost the symbionts a bit, like tiny mass heals that only work on symbionts Like for example (roll 1d6, all symbionts of the target heal 1d6 hp), because if a Host has maybe 6 symbionts and they all get some damage from a area spell, it's kind of hard to heal them all with normal healing spells Another idea for the domain is to give them also access to 6 special symbionts, instead of 6 extra spells (they can only cast t'ill lvl 6 spells) So what do you think is best, special symbiont healing spells, or a couple unique symbionts for the priests
Kirtanus_Albacron 08-21-07, 04:28 PM	Currently I am working on a drawing about LoC and I was wondering, what does a ley engine look like?
Delfedd 08-21-07, 05:08 PM	Ley engines... well, they're differently shaped, but the Plainsrunner's version is a sort spheroid. On the bottom is a flat area so it can land properly, or extend the ramp so the troops can get out. On the top is a thing sort of like this |___| ^that is filled with a blue energy of a sort as it trundles along the leyline. Which it uses to get it's speed. No windows. Glass is pretty expensive, and hard to shape into a round thing. There are people outside who look, like the lookouts on a ship.
Destrieth 08-21-07, 07:23 PM	Ley engines... well, they're differently shaped, but the Plainsrunner's version is a sort spheroid. On the bottom is a flat area so it can land properly, or extend the ramp so the troops can get out. On the top is a thing sort of like this |___| ^that is filled with a blue energy of a sort as it trundles along the leyline. Which it uses to get it's speed. No windows. Glass is pretty expensive, and hard to shape into a round thing. There are people outside who look, like the lookouts on a ship. I always imagined them as a sort of magical monorail. (I agree about the lack of windows though).
Delfedd 08-21-07, 10:39 PM	New rule proposition. When a Deity is attacked but does not want to die, even though by all rights he should die, they may simply take a penalty to their Divine Rank. They must divide their divine rank by two. If a deity does not want to lose half their DvR, they may simply die. This causes a 1/4th loss of Divine rank, unless they've made preparations (see me for an example.) When they are reborn, they must be reborn differently. Significantly differently. Different form, different alignment, different profile. The divine rank, form, and profile can be regained by achieving two of three goals. 1) Destroy the diety that killed you 2) retrieve any artifacts you had on your person at the time of your death 3) corrupt a place from an opposing allignment to your own.
Destrieth 08-21-07, 10:43 PM	I don't see what this really brings to the table. It seems like it's just something to add for the sake of adding it. :thumbsdow
d24478667 08-21-07, 10:48 PM	^As above.^
Return of the Flumph 08-21-07, 10:54 PM	Its not added for no reason. It is to provide a plausible alternative to death if you get outmaneuvered but don't want to give up your god. This is being brought up because there almost certainly WILL be divine death by the end of year three.
Delfedd 08-21-07, 10:55 PM	No. What it does is makes things more ballenced across the line. We're getting a bit top heavy now. And being attacked... well it just doesn't mean much anymore.
Destrieth 08-21-07, 10:58 PM	I always figured deity death could be handled between the two parties in PMs so it has a little more meaning than "lolz zergrush kthxbai". Example (only an example!): I decide that it would be pretty rockin' if Alusia and Frostbite got in a fight and one of us died. I shoot a PM to D# saying something along the lines of, 'hey, I had this neat RP idea involving our deities and some conflict. I think it would be appropriately dramatic if one of them was either killed or severely wounded. What do you think?' And then it goes from there. Imposing some kind of mechanical restrictions on it makes this seem less like an RP exercise and a more of a, well, game of sorts. "I killed your deity, so you take a -5 penalty until you recover your artifacts or kill me." I hope that makes sense. And to address you Delfedd, it has meaning if you're willing to cooperate with your players instead of springing knives on them. If the players feel like it's an 'us against them' mentality, they get attached to their creation and feel like they have to guard from getting ambushed.
d24478667 08-21-07, 11:00 PM	The thing is, some of us have built up identities around these gods. I would not like Frostbite to change from what he is to something completely different, and I certainly don't want him to die. And half DvR is crippling, esp. where most of the deific conflicts will take place, aka the greater gods.
Destrieth 08-21-07, 11:03 PM	The thing is, some of us have built up identities around these gods. I would not like Frostbite to change from what he is to something completely different, and I certainly don't want him to die. I would suggest being more open to change, but I agree with you on some level. I would certainly have no qualms about playing out a dramatic death, for instance, if the players of whoever wanted to kill Alusia came up to me beforehand and worked it out with me. However, logging on one day and finding out that you've just been attacked with no OOC warning makes it feel like you have to defend the fortress. Thus the spiral into godmoding begins and nothing is accomplished.
d24478667 08-21-07, 11:05 PM	By completely different, I mean either falling from grace or deciding to embrace order. Or both. Or something else to that scale.
Delfedd 08-21-07, 11:09 PM	*Shrug* It's happened to me. I'm just saying that if you want to evade death from overwhelming odds. I didn't try, because I knew I was cool. Not quite. You'd only have to change one aspect of your alignment. Neutral good or chaotic neutral for Frostbite.
Destrieth 08-21-07, 11:11 PM	*Shrug* It's happened to me. I'm just saying that if you want to evade death from overwhelming odds. I didn't try, because I knew I was cool. Not quite. You'd only have to change one aspect of your alignment. Neutral good or chaotic neutral for Frostbite. Well, that's what I mean. It bears mentioning that enforcing mechanical restrictions on people in this sort of free-flowing game is bound to end in bitterness. I mean, it's your call in the end as referee, but I doubt I'd stick around if it was implemented. It's way too hamfisted.
Delfedd 08-21-07, 11:20 PM	Sorry, didn't see like... half the posts. Ok. Destrieth. The thing is, a lot of the times that doesn't happen. It can't happen, because someone is so wrapped up in their character. The thing is things rarely change in this world unless someone works it out ahead of time. How do you think the battle between me and Kur-ah would have gone if we had worked it out ahead of time? It wouldn't have. Glyklivar is right however. There will be deaths. I just want things to feel like D&D, and not like, "ah, you killed me. good one, haha." Something should change. Perhaps exchanging a domain, changing appearance... something's gotta be different. Look at deific deaths in D&D cannon. Orcus. Lolth. Er... that's all I can think of, but when they died something happened. Tenumbrious. The new Lolth. Change. I want this to feel dynamic. I want freeflowing. Freeflowing is good. But I like change as well. If things in the divine realm aren't mutible... things in the mortal realm won't seem that way to the players. "ah. So let me get this straight. no god has died in 15 centuries?" "Yup." "And we're supposed to kill Britmara?" (dunno why. Just a low DvR example) "Yup." "WHY SHOULD WE HAVE BETTER LUCK THAN THE GODS?"
Destrieth 08-21-07, 11:28 PM	So if you want someone to die, for cryin' out loud ask someone. :P Don't just hamfist some numbers. Do you really doubt the ability of myself, Flumph, Ewan, D#, or anyone else to cooperate with you for some cool RP? I'm pretty darn insulted. And jeez, you'd think you'd appreciate how dynamic Alusia has been over the course of the game. If anything, I'm the only one who has the right to complain about that sort of thing.
Delfedd 08-21-07, 11:31 PM	Not you guys. I trust that you guys will do things right. Don't worry. I'm not insulting you.
Delfedd 08-21-07, 11:45 PM	Very well. Broad statements haven't worked for my diplomacy. Let me start by saying that this isn't meant to offend, it's just a trend I've noticed with Illuvien and Kirtanious that they don't quite match up to the standards we've been trying to enforce. Illuvien, you seem very stubborn in your ideas. Sometimes you want something to happen, and if it doesn't go your way, you persist until it changes or ignore the change. Perhaps I am wrong in thinking that if someone approached you with a cool idea for your death, you would react badly. Kirt, you reacted rather well when your character died, and I hope that if you where approached with a cool idea, you would react well as well, but I have this strange feeling that you won't. These rules are designed for... well, they're basically for the people who we feel we can't approach with our ideas.
Destrieth 08-21-07, 11:49 PM	Ah, and the issue is put out in the open. I agree with this kind of honesty. To be frank, I've always felt that there was a core of LoC (delfedd, flumph, ewan, I would never have the ego to put myself there, d# on a good day :P (just playing D#)), and that the rest were fairweather players whom didn't really take the time to get involved as much as they could, and thus didn't feel comfortable sharing ideas with. It's no fault of anyone's, really. It's just an inevitability.
Camu 08-22-07, 08:31 AM	Also To much rules would ruin he simplisity of the mechanics of LoC. I love the fact that LoC is a great RP experience with only a handfull of rules, because it gives a lot of freedom. Take the implisity away, and I think a lot of the fun will go away.
Return of the Flumph 08-22-07, 12:27 PM	I agree with you, Camu. However, there remains the problem of what to do when a god has been soundly defeated, but the player doesn't want to let go of it. Going back to Destrieth's example. Let's say Destrieth PM's d# and tells him it would be cool if Alusia and Frostbite had a fight and one of them died. D# thinks its a good idea, but doesn't want to lose Frostbite. This way, they can still have their battle, and Frostbite's defeat will still have concrete effects on the game world (loss of DVR), but no one has to die. Perhaps the penalty can be reduced to just one rank lost.
d24478667 08-22-07, 12:42 PM	A one DvR loss is better, mainly because it isn't crippling, but it still feels rather forced.
Camu 08-22-07, 12:46 PM	True But the half DvR penalty is a bit too much in my opinion. But what about alternative punishments, like when you get defeated, why not be bound in service to the victor for one divine month. Then the victor gets the defeated gods AP from that month. (not his entire saved up AP) Or have a few punishments as options: Death, servitude, diminish DvR ,.....
d24478667 08-22-07, 02:39 PM	Perhaps one half DvR for one month, as your god recuperates from the attack?
Delfedd 08-22-07, 03:40 PM	Eh... one month isn't what it used to be. It used to be that each week was a major event, but now we spend less and less AP each week. I don't like the recuperation thing.
Camu 08-22-07, 06:25 PM	Update for my god's description Well actually it's something that should have been in there since the very start, namely the creation of oozes and worms never noticed that it wasn't in there
Zebppir 08-22-07, 06:58 PM	True But the half DvR penalty is a bit too much in my opinion. But what about alternative punishments, like when you get defeated, why not be bound in service to the victor for one divine month. Then the victor gets the defeated gods AP from that month. (not his entire saved up AP) Or have a few punishments as options: Death, servitude, diminish DvR ,..... :D :plotting: :evillaugh I think I made my point clear
Kirtanus_Albacron 08-22-07, 07:09 PM	Delfedd, you techically cannot make the Ezera part of your private army, because long ago Illevuen spent AP so that anybody who chose to go to Paradise would go. So, you would have to spend AP to do that. Anyways, why are you complaining about Illevuen and I, when you seem to be warping things that would not even happen. Like, when I had Vaelisus replacing the other Wrist, they checked him for taint, so there would be no reason a neutral good incarnate, would become a tyrant, when you continued to take control of him and do things that he wouldn't do, because, a neutral good person would not change to lawful evil at the snap of a finger, it would be more gradual. But I played along with it. You could have at least messaged me with your plans, and then I would have worked with you. But, you seem to want to make yourself the dominant member of this thread, with your finger in every pie. End Rant
Delfedd 08-22-07, 09:34 PM	The first part is a good point. I agree with you there. The problem is, the curse makes them not wish go to Paradise. They moan, and weep. They see their error, they see their foulness, and believe themselves unworthy. Despite all this, if one believes it is still going to Paradise, he would still beck and call of Morintu's whims. That's why it's a curse. Also, I think the idea that Lexius is more powerful than every god ever is silly. Lexius... for an "attack god" to be successfull, you have to be more powerful than the god you attack, not less.
Destrieth 08-22-07, 09:46 PM	I mean, I don't think I personally have anything to worry about here, but I'm pretty much of the opinion that if you want to have a dramatic battle with consequences and some deity death mayhap, you need to set it up and make it a big event. Don't shoehorn some mechanical penalties to FORCE it to be a 'big event.' I recommend anyone to take a look at Star Wars Saga Edition to see a BRILLIANT example of the mechanics getting OUT of the way of concepts. That's what we need to hold to, here. The mechanics should supplement the RP, not the RP follows the mechanics.
Camu 08-23-07, 03:55 AM	I agree, like i posted earlier And the topic about why everyone keeps raising there DvR, well don't you think this new rule would only boost that even more, because the only way you can defeat another is to have more DvR than him in the first place (alone or as a group) Also delfedd, most of the new rules you invent, have the most effect on the other, lower deity's, and most of the time, almost no effect on your own. -The higher cost of DvR, not much a problem for you because you already are DvR 20 now, which is the highest you can get before becomming a supreme deity -The combat rule of who has the highest DvR wins, is a good guideline, but still, why wouldn't a lower level deity be able to defeat a stronger one on his own, if he uses tact or can create an event that works in his favor. -This last new rule, about losing half your DvR or die and only loose 1/4 if you completely change your god and let him do a few quests to restore himself. Well this even lowers the chances even more for lower deity's to win from a strong one. Also you stated for this rule that it wouldn't affect Morintu because he took steps (the lichdom). And ok, ths allows any deity to spend 3AP on an artifact that brings them back, negating this rule, but in my own opinion, it's just silly You see, most of the rules you make only arrive after they don't have any effect on your deity, or only poses a small risk.
Delfedd 08-23-07, 09:34 AM	-The combat rule of who has the highest DvR wins, is a good guideline, but still, why wouldn't a lower level deity be able to defeat a stronger one on his own, if he uses tact or can create an event that works in his favor. I certainly agree with this. I would love it if people thought of creative ways to defeat opponents. That said, things usually end up being more like "I attack him." -This last new rule, about losing half your DvR or die and only loose 1/4 if you completely change your god and let him do a few quests to restore himself. Well this even lowers the chances even more for lower deity's to win from a strong one. Also you stated for this rule that it wouldn't affect Morintu because he took steps (the lichdom). And ok, ths allows any deity to spend 3AP on an artifact that brings them back, negating this rule, but in my own opinion, it's just silly Just a reminder, Morintu isn't my only god. I still have the artifact lords. They are my compromise. I can't simply make up rules that make me more powerful and destroy weaker people. That doesn't work for my benefit. Basically, as I've said, all the random rules that I've tried to implement where for Illuvien and Kirtanious. No offense guys.
Camu 08-23-07, 09:54 AM	Uhu, forgot about them, probably because Morintu overshadows them. But the new rule will remove the creativity of possible endings, because you now would have to choose out of a couple preset choises. I also think it will even further boost the idea of more DvR is better, because then i won't be attacked that easy, or people will hoard artifacts like crazy to boost DvR, since artifact Dv can't be lost with the rule
Destrieth 08-23-07, 02:12 PM	Uhu, forgot about them, probably because Morintu overshadows them. But the new rule will remove the creativity of possible endings, because you now would have to choose out of a couple preset choises. I also think it will even further boost the idea of more DvR is better, because then i won't be attacked that easy, or people will hoard artifacts like crazy to boost DvR, since artifact Dv can't be lost with the rule He makes a good point. I mean, yeah, I know it's not the intention, but it does kinda work in Morintu's (and any high deity's) favor. This is very much a 'rich get richer' and 'poor get poorer' rule. What I -think- should be done is force some serious collaboration. That, and if we want some world-shaking plans, share it with the group. The big reason the deity-death is such a sticky wicket is because the aggressors usually plot in silence for a period of time and then spring it on the defender like some kind of ambush. I admit, Riverrock and I did it to Janusunaj, and maybe that wasn't the best course. It would have been better, perhaps, if we told everyone beforehand so the reactions would be believable and properly epic. And, also, if the attack was creative enough, we could chastise the defenders for god-moding. I think we've kinda treated this too much as a tactical game, in retrospect.
d24478667 08-23-07, 02:24 PM	Well, Delfedd said we could start the new month if he hasn't by noon, and for me its 2, so I declare the new turn begun.
Camu 08-23-07, 02:51 PM	Wow Destrieth, DvR 31, not bad ;)
Destrieth 08-23-07, 02:52 PM	If Alusia is going to be the second Absaul-rote, she needs to be DvR 50. :P
Camu 08-23-07, 02:56 PM	I'm also tempted to use a large portion of my AP to elevate Ooulzoth to a supreme deity, but then of the Shard Worlds. Another thing i noticed is that although everyone raises DvR, almost no one takes more class levels.
d24478667 08-23-07, 03:08 PM	I was actually going to do that soon, when I could gain more then 13. Such as next turn.
Destrieth 08-23-07, 03:10 PM	I somehow doubt Alusia would react favorably to another supreme deity in the mix. Though if we do the Shardworlds spinoff, I would definitely say then is the right time. Basically, if someone tried to ascend, I'm pretty sure I'd have Alusia throw her all and probably destroy 'em. (See, I'm embracing the 'throw it out there' policy)
Camu 08-23-07, 03:15 PM	hmmm,.... i'll pass then,..... for now :D But what to do with my 43 AP (34 if new month didn't start yet)
Destrieth 08-23-07, 03:18 PM	Create some deities for people to play! only a couple of us have two gods, and I'm sure those of us who have two could take on more. :P
Delfedd 08-23-07, 03:20 PM	yeah, it started. I think we need to do something interesting to use all this excess AP that people are accumulating. For those wanting to play and stuff, there's the Behemouth still. Oh, something I've contemplated doing for a while. I wanted to take the seven riders and bind them to me. Well, six, not including entropy. She's icky. I'm not sure what this will do.
Destrieth 08-23-07, 03:22 PM	I've had ideas myself, but really, it's pretty much inevitable. It's not like the AP is burning a hole in the pocket anyway. Create some planes you feel we need. Races can always be made! Guide some populous, make more continents. Artifacts.
Camu 08-23-07, 03:27 PM	Ooulzoth already has 4 planes Made tons of monsters (2 more since today) Guided my races, even to a new world ;) Created a new way of casting Made an island .....
Delfedd 08-23-07, 03:31 PM	Also, I wouldn't be opposed to the Ooulzoth being lord of the shardworlds, as long as his overgod status only applied there. Perhaps at a reduced price. Also... now that I think about it, If frostbite went chaotic neutral, I would be perfectly fine with him ascending to overgodhood. Like Lawful overgod with fire Chaotic overgod with cold... That's kind of neat. What do you guys think?
Delfedd 08-23-07, 03:35 PM	I've been thinking... our planes are a bit boring right now. We should make some planar strife. Devils and Nightmares aren't supposed to sit there and not fight each other.
Destrieth 08-23-07, 03:47 PM	It bears repeating: Alusia will vehemently oppose anyone trying to share her magnificent throne with her. Plus, we're not elemental overlords. (And I know you're suggesting that to set up that you, naturally, would have Morintu be the overgod of Air and Earth! because if you didn't, who would? :P)
Zebppir 08-23-07, 06:14 PM	I agree, like i posted earlier And the topic about why everyone keeps raising there DvR, well don't you think this new rule would only boost that even more, because the only way you can defeat another is to have more DvR than him in the first place (alone or as a group) Also delfedd, most of the new rules you invent, have the most effect on the other, lower deity's, and most of the time, almost no effect on your own. -The higher cost of DvR, not much a problem for you because you already are DvR 20 now, which is the highest you can get before becomming a supreme deity -The combat rule of who has the highest DvR wins, is a good guideline, but still, why wouldn't a lower level deity be able to defeat a stronger one on his own, if he uses tact or can create an event that works in his favor. -This last new rule, about losing half your DvR or die and only loose 1/4 if you completely change your god and let him do a few quests to restore himself. Well this even lowers the chances even more for lower deity's to win from a strong one. Also you stated for this rule that it wouldn't affect Morintu because he took steps (the lichdom). And ok, ths allows any deity to spend 3AP on an artifact that brings them back, negating this rule, but in my own opinion, it's just silly You see, most of the rules you make only arrive after they don't have any effect on your deity, or only poses a small risk. I hate to admit it but.... am I the only one that hasn't raised thier DVR honestly you'd think would be happy with the what you have already and yes a lesser deity can over power a more powerful one just look at zeus the other olympians overpowered him and tied him up not to mention what happened to mystra and even vecna an intermediate diety manages to stand against the greater good dieties I think that all of you are getting power mad and me I like planning and hidding:D
Delfedd 08-23-07, 06:18 PM	(And I know you're suggesting that to set up that you, naturally, would have Morintu be the overgod of Air and Earth! because if you didn't, who would? :P) Nope. I think you've gone mad with power. Sorry, I saw the simpsons movie the other day. "Sir, I think you've gone mad with power." I loved that line. Anywho, I'm just saying that it'd be cool, because there would be two opposing forces You know, fire and cold. Law and Chaos. Dragon and thing that's not a dragon.
Destrieth 08-23-07, 06:19 PM	Well, you may have a point there. I suppose it'd depend on who tried to make the move. I could live with Frostbite being my sidekick. :D
Camu 08-23-07, 06:24 PM	That's favoritism, you're mean :p
Destrieth 08-23-07, 06:25 PM	Camu, are you new? :P
Camu 08-23-07, 06:31 PM	Nope, but your still mean ;) What you have against Ooulzoth anyway
Destrieth 08-23-07, 06:33 PM	He's smelly.
Camu 08-23-07, 06:45 PM	How mortal of you
Destrieth 08-23-07, 07:06 PM	How mortal of you Nuh-uh!
d24478667 08-23-07, 10:26 PM	Well, that, and Frostbite apologized to Alusia for an offense that she didn't even notice. I mean, Frostbite has alliances with how many gods? Everyone in TyDyw, everyone in Enfermia, and a few outside of both. (I'm thinking of Britmara and Glykllivar.) He tries not to offend anyone, except for Morintu, and even then he doesn't actively try to offend him. Well, maybe not allies, but can you name an enemy of his?
Destrieth 08-23-07, 11:11 PM	Well, that, and Frostbite apologized to Alusia for an offense that she didn't even notice. I mean, Frostbite has alliances with how many gods? Everyone in TyDyw, everyone in Enfermia, and a few outside of both. (I'm thinking of Britmara and Glykllivar.) He tries not to offend anyone, except for Morintu, and even then he doesn't actively try to offend him. Well, maybe not allies, but can you name an enemy of his? I don't know. Alliance might be too strong a word.
Delfedd 08-23-07, 11:13 PM	But can you name any strong allies?
d24478667 08-23-07, 11:22 PM	My point was that he's not going to get into a fight. And with pretty much everyone save two gods, he can get out easily.
Destrieth 08-23-07, 11:24 PM	My point was that he's not going to get into a fight. And with pretty much everyone save two gods, he can get out easily. Kinda boring imo.
d24478667 08-23-07, 11:27 PM	Well, he'll probably start being a little more volatile in personality, now that he can afford to.
Zebppir 08-24-07, 12:04 AM	But can you name any strong allies? Nequelleden and her growing obsession with frostbite:D
d24478667 08-24-07, 07:33 PM	Expect Frostbite to not acknowlege her advances, and when he does, he'll refuse. At least at first, that is. Maybe later, but I know pretty much what he'll say when a confrontation about it happens. (By confrontation, I mean anything from discussion to argument to fight. If it is a fight, he will, of course, use non-lethal techniques.)
Destrieth 08-25-07, 02:32 PM	I gotta say... I agree with Delfedd. Selevern jumping into that conflict for no discernible reason was pretty stupid and illogical. Pretty much what I meant when I said things should be discussed...
Return of the Flumph 08-25-07, 03:09 PM	Actually, it was discussed. The Sage invited Selevern to help him take the Artifact Lords before any of this happened. Delfedd was aware of this as well. However, since Paradise is a very cool plane with half of it being evil and the other being neutral with good tendencies, I would like to ask Kirtanus to rethink it. Yes, I know Selevern should be able to dominate Michael. But come on!
CombatMedic 08-25-07, 04:42 PM	FYI Guardian daemons are not yugoloths. They aren't even evil. They are actually true neutral in alignment. They are an old beastie from AD&D . Don't know if they've been converted to 3E.
CombatMedic 08-25-07, 04:56 PM	I don't see room for multiple overdeities. More than one seems crowded. Ooulzoth is already the prime god of the Shardworlds, anyway. I suggest we adopt a rule that only one overdeity may exist at one time. That would be Alusia. If she is killed, then someone else may take her throne. I would like to clarify something: overdeities do not grant spells to their followers[ if they even bother to have followers]. Correct me if I am somehow mistaken.
Zebppir 08-25-07, 05:06 PM	I don't see room for multiple overdeities. More than one seems crowded. Ooulzoth is already the prime god of the Shardworlds, anyway. I suggest we adopt a rule that only one overdeity may exist at one time. That would be Alusia. If she is killed, then someone else may take her throne. I would like to clarify something: overdeities do not grant spells to their followers[ if they even bother to have followers]. Correct me if I am somehow mistaken. I agree with the second part but.... would any god that was half as good as mystra develop a spell the negates symbiotes/kills them in a general area but anyway.... when will morintu acknowledge Nequelleden??
CombatMedic 08-25-07, 05:11 PM	Don't know when Morintu will acknowledge her,. Would Arteheyn be aware of Nequelleden's existence?
Zebppir 08-25-07, 05:21 PM	Expect Frostbite to not acknowlege her advances, and when he does, he'll refuse. At least at first, that is. Maybe later, but I know pretty much what he'll say when a confrontation about it happens. (By confrontation, I mean anything from discussion to argument to fight. If it is a fight, he will, of course, use non-lethal techniques.) there is a reason that she is a goddess of poison when she strikes she will strike suddenly and all out in other words snake in the grass so to speak and if she is scorned the I'll have reason to use her wrath domain:evillaugh by the way I thought alusia passed it to Nequelleden so why does she still have it?
Zebppir 08-25-07, 05:27 PM	Don't know when Morintu will acknowledge her,. Would Arteheyn be aware of Nequelleden's existence? if she was looking at the sky at that moment of time then she would she would see hidden paradise so the answer is yes/no if you want to talk to her she would love to have company of course but you would have to tell her when .She doesn't like unexpected visitors the planning thing... and I would like her to get in touch with Ooulzoth not to mention someone still has to develop the east
Kirtanus_Albacron 08-25-07, 06:44 PM	RotF, Selevern's plane being floating in the middle would work, I agree with it, but what it could be is that a portal connects Respite to the Forest, so at the end of Sage's layer is the edge of the forest, and then at the part of the Forest that is closer to Conflict the sky starts to get darker with a reddish hue, and then at the beginning of Conflict is the Forest, so Selevern kind of acts as a buffer between Respite and Conflict(Read: staging points for good Crusades to rid the planes of evil, starting with Conflict :D )
CombatMedic 08-25-07, 06:56 PM	d24478667: Well, Delfedd said we could start the new month if he hasn't by noon, and for me its 2, so I declare the new turn begun. New month,eh? Month 4, year 3? Is that right?
Return of the Flumph 08-25-07, 06:59 PM	Okay. In that case, Michael will need some hella allies to beat back our combined forces, but then, he has Enfermia backing him up. There are a lot of devils in there. Provided that Selevern and Sage are locked out of Michale's layer (which Mike would have to be a complete idiot not to do), the stalmate could be continuous.
Kirtanus_Albacron 08-25-07, 07:03 PM	But first Michael would have to beat back Selevern, because Selevern may not kill Michael, he just wants to injure him :D
Camu 08-25-07, 07:15 PM	I don't see room for multiple overdeities. More than one seems crowded. Ooulzoth is already the prime god of the Shardworlds, anyway. I suggest we adopt a rule that only one overdeity may exist at one time. That would be Alusia. If she is killed, then someone else may take her throne. I would like to clarify something: overdeities do not grant spells to their followers[ if they even bother to have followers]. Correct me if I am somehow mistaken. Yeah, that's true But in the mean time, I came up with another idea for what I will do with my hoard AP. I agree with the second part but.... would any god that was half as good as mystra develop a spell the negates symbiotes/kills them in a general area but anyway.... With the symbionts thing, I assume you mean my new form of casting? Dunno what your getting at. Sure there will be spells that could harm most symbiotes of a caster, but don't think Ooulzoth a fool. There would be symbiotes that could generate fields symilar to mage armor, shield and other protective effects, which would both protect the Host and any other symbiote that host is carrying
Zebppir 08-25-07, 07:22 PM	Yeah, that's true But in the mean time, I came up with another idea for what I will do with my hoard AP. With the symbionts thing, I assume you mean my new form of casting? Dunno what your getting at. Sure there will be spells that could harm most symbiotes of a caster, but don't think Ooulzoth a fool. There would be symbiotes that could generate fields symilar to mage armor, shield and other protective effects, which would both protect the Host and any other symbiote that host is carrying what I mean is render incapable of functioning
Camu 08-25-07, 07:29 PM	But then the question would arrive... Can any self respecting god of bio weapons and warfare like Ooulzoth not create something that could counter/dissable magic.....:D And before you say anything, it already exists. Check my old Kython post in the Races, Religion thread. And even after all that you must not forget that the symbionts are only used by the races of Ooulzoth that live on the shard worlds, a world where the other gods are weakened and not so powerfull any more. But I'm putting my actions in the shard worlds a bit on hiatus now, since we will take a closer look on them when we finish the Creation campaign.
CombatMedic 08-25-07, 07:40 PM	I am a bit confused as to the Divine Month. Is it Month 3 or 4? [Need to know if my two gods recived their monthly AP. I don't think I missed a month, but I just want to be sure. Thanks.
Camu 08-25-07, 07:58 PM	I think it was d24478667, who started the new month a couple of days ago on thursday. But I think it was in the OOC thread only
CombatMedic 08-25-07, 07:59 PM	I double checked- I DID actually add those AP to Arteheyn's total. Arteheyn went from 32 AP To 39. Then I spent some of that. So no, I didn't short myself anything. Good.
Zebppir 08-25-07, 10:29 PM	I double checked- I DID actually add those AP to Arteheyn's total. Arteheyn went from 32 AP To 39. Then I spent some of that. So no, I didn't short myself anything. Good. ya that happend to me to I had to look it up but Nequelleden still has 4AP because apprently she had eight on her last turn and used only four now what to do what to do...:plotting:
alchemyprime 08-25-07, 11:29 PM	I hate to admit it but.... am I the only one that hasn't raised thier DVR honestly you'd think would be happy with the what you have already and yes a lesser deity can over power a more powerful one just look at zeus the other olympians overpowered him and tied him up not to mention what happened to mystra and even vecna an intermediate diety manages to stand against the greater good dieties I think that all of you are getting power mad and me I like planning and hidding:D Never raised mine.
Zebppir 08-25-07, 11:31 PM	Never raised mine. then we belong to the few who don't :w00t:
Delfedd 08-25-07, 11:32 PM	I agree with the second part but.... would any god that was half as good as mystra develop a spell the negates symbiotes/kills them in a general area but anyway.... when will morintu acknowledge Nequelleden?? I thought I did already? Sorry If I didn't. Did you send me something new?
Zebppir 08-25-07, 11:34 PM	But then the question would arrive... Can any self respecting god of bio weapons and warfare like Ooulzoth not create something that could counter/dissable magic.....:D And before you say anything, it already exists. Check my old Kython post in the Races, Religion thread. And even after all that you must not forget that the symbionts are only used by the races of Ooulzoth that live on the shard worlds, a world where the other gods are weakened and not so powerfull any more. But I'm putting my actions in the shard worlds a bit on hiatus now, since we will take a closer look on them when we finish the Creation campaign. you are forgetting antmagic poisons not to mention other stuff....anyway Nequelleden would like to get to know Ooulzoth :D
Zebppir 08-25-07, 11:35 PM	I thought I did already? Sorry If I didn't. Did you send me something new? the wisp asking to join enfermia ring a bell???
Delfedd 08-25-07, 11:36 PM	Ok. Now look at this Kirt. Selevern's souls are devoted to him, correct? Selevern's souls mirror his own alignment, correct? Only evil things ended up on Michael's side, correct? Therefore, your souls are evil, correct? Therefore you are evil. I suggest you fix your alignment.
Delfedd 08-25-07, 11:38 PM	Nnope. I believe I extended the offer, and said all you needed to do was ask. I would start unpacking your bags now if I where you.
CombatMedic 08-26-07, 11:22 AM	Sorry to bring this up again, but I am still a bit confused. Is it Year 3 month 2, or year 3 Month 3. I know Delfedd had announced the second month on the IC thread. Was d24478667's announcment of a new month actually the THIRD MONTH? I suggest we possibly use a header to indicate the year and month. That, or future monthly switchovers are posted in BIG BOLD LETTERS. ;) :D
Return of the Flumph 08-26-07, 06:26 PM	Yo, guys, just had an idea. Awhile back, Delfedd told me that he was hoping we would follow his lead when he invented the mage hand thingamagig that you can use by invoking Morintu's name. At first, I (and likely others) did not make our own counterparts to this because we thought it would be stepping on Delfedd's toes. Since he apparently wants us to, though, I propose the following. All the gods (or at least, most of them) can grant certain powers to people who invoke their names. There is always a catch of some kind to doing this, whether a behavioral shift (using Morintu's Mage Hand causes you to slip toward lawful evil), a material component (you need to be holding a white pearl to use Glykllivar's Sails), a spiritual cost (using Ooulzoth's Ravage does 1d4 points of constitution damage to the invoker), or something similar. Each invocation can only be used a certain number of times per day, with more powerful ones being more infrequent. Weaker invocations (ie using Morintu's name to move small objects) can be used by anyone. More powerful ones, however, require you to be a certain level to use (ie you need to be fifteenth level to invoke Frostbite's name to cause a blizzard). Some invocations simulate spell effects, while others grant you combat bonuses or do any number of other things. To use an invocation, you need to (in addition to being a certain level) succeed at a charisma check (DC 10+equivalent spell level of the invocation. Invocations that do not simulate spell effects are grouped according to comparative power levels). This will make it so people think twice before using charisma as a dump stat. Each god can have as many invocations as his/her/its player is willing to make up, but one of the requirements is that they must be available to EVERYONE; no granting invocations to only your own worshippers. On a similar note, I created Glykllivar's altars similarly hoping that others would do the same. Altars to other gods (in appropriate locations) might be able to confer a wide variety of benefits. Altars always require the expenditure of physical materials of some kind to be sacrificed. Good?
d24478667 08-26-07, 06:30 PM	Sounds interesting... Just gotta figure some out for Frostbite.
Zebppir 08-26-07, 07:52 PM	Yo, guys, just had an idea. Awhile back, Delfedd told me that he was hoping we would follow his lead when he invented the mage hand thingamagig that you can use by invoking Morintu's name. At first, I (and likely others) did not make our own counterparts to this because we thought it would be stepping on Delfedd's toes. Since he apparently wants us to, though, I propose the following. All the gods (or at least, most of them) can grant certain powers to people who invoke their names. There is always a catch of some kind to doing this, whether a behavioral shift (using Morintu's Mage Hand causes you to slip toward lawful evil), a material component (you need to be holding a white pearl to use Glykllivar's Sails), a spiritual cost (using Ooulzoth's Ravage does 1d4 points of constitution damage to the invoker), or something similar. Each invocation can only be used a certain number of times per day, with more powerful ones being more infrequent. Weaker invocations (ie using Morintu's name to move small objects) can be used by anyone. More powerful ones, however, require you to be a certain level to use (ie you need to be fifteenth level to invoke Frostbite's name to cause a blizzard). Some invocations simulate spell effects, while others grant you combat bonuses or do any number of other things. To use an invocation, you need to (in addition to being a certain level) succeed at a charisma check (DC 10+equivalent spell level of the invocation. Invocations that do not simulate spell effects are grouped according to comparative power levels). This will make it so people think twice before using charisma as a dump stat. Each god can have as many invocations as his/her/its player is willing to make up, but one of the requirements is that they must be available to EVERYONE; no granting invocations to only your own worshippers. On a similar note, I created Glykllivar's altars similarly hoping that others would do the same. Altars to other gods (in appropriate locations) might be able to confer a wide variety of benefits. Altars always require the expenditure of physical materials of some kind to be sacrificed. Good? interesting very interesting:plotting: so what level do you need to be to magically hang someone? or to poison someone ah!! Nequelleden is one step closer to being a healing diety of evil thanks:evillaugh
Return of the Flumph 08-26-07, 08:06 PM	interesting very interesting:plotting: so what level do you need to be to magically hang someone? or to poison someone ah!! Nequelleden is one step closer to being a healing diety of evil thanks:evillaugh An ability that powerful is likely to have high level requirements, have a high charisma check DC, and be usable only at considerable cost.
Delfedd 08-26-07, 08:12 PM	Well, the hanging thing could be an animate rope thing. Not to difficult. I was thinking the same thing about the altars :P Oy... is the Selevern thing going to be fixed? is there a third layer to paradise? or is there just an evil elf god?
Camu 08-27-07, 09:14 AM	that invokation and altar stuff sounds very interesting, I'll think of something for both for Ooulzoth
CombatMedic 08-27-07, 02:23 PM	Check out the good old choke spell from 2ed AD&D [ it appeared in the Necromancer's Handbook]. Very appropriate for followers of the Gallows Queen IMO.
Zebppir 08-27-07, 02:42 PM	interesting very interesting:plotting: so what level do you need to be to magically hang someone? or to poison someone ah!! Nequelleden is one step closer to being a healing diety of evil thanks:evillaugh I just though of this is morintu in control of the words of power??or is this independent of him?
Delfedd 08-27-07, 02:49 PM	Independant of me. I just set em up so that you guys could do stuff. There is Always a cost though.
Zebppir 08-27-07, 02:56 PM	Check out the good old choke spell from 2ed AD&D [ it appeared in the Necromancer's Handbook]. Very appropriate for followers of the Gallows Queen IMO. were am I going to find it I started with 3d edition
Kirtanus_Albacron 08-27-07, 05:55 PM	There is a third layer of Paradise.
Delfedd 08-28-07, 12:55 AM	Ok. Did you edit the post?
Return of the Flumph 08-28-07, 01:06 AM	Kay guys, Delfedd and I talked this over, and the higher level invocations are kind of a threat to game balance. Each god only has one invocation, and is weak with no level requirements. The charisma check DC is always 10. Its always usable once per encounter. For the kewler pwrz, everyone also gets a Disciple feat, of the same sort as the Disciple of Morintu feat that some plainsrunners have. These feat grant increasingly power abilities as you advance in level. I would recommend requiring someone to be a worshipper of the same alignment of the god in question in order to take the feat. If you switch to a different diety or change your alignment, you have a wasted feat until you switch back.
Camu 08-28-07, 09:08 AM	How is this for an invocation for Ooulzoth? In time of war, or other times of hunger, people are sometimes driven to unimaginable things. In such desperate times, some are willing to invoke Ooulzoth. Ooulzoth's Hunger By saying "Ooulzoth, Lord of Hunger, Let me feast" you gain the ability to live from anything, even filth. For 1 minute, you get immunity to poison an diseases, and fast healing 1 as long as you are eating. Charisma Check: DC 10 Cost: for the minute the invocation is active, you become mindless and driven only by the instinct to feed. You will eat anything or try to kill anything edible that's closest to you. For the rest of the day, you look like you have symptoms of some disease (not the effect), like filth fever.
Delfedd 08-28-07, 12:18 PM	Wow... that's certainly interesting. I actually really like it. That could even cause a bunch of ghouls and stuff.
Camu 08-28-07, 12:21 PM	Thanks, I was a little worried it might be a bit too powerfull, but the drawback is also a lot harder
Delfedd 08-28-07, 12:28 PM	Yeah. It's only for one minute, and it doesn't give combat benifits, the only benifits are healing based. Perhaps you should add that the material has to be meat of some kind. I can see people hunkered down, starving, and then one guy invokes ooulzoth's name and kills them all. He doesn't even do it to kill them. He believed it would fill his belly.
d24478667 08-28-07, 12:31 PM	:( I can't think of good ones for Frostbite or Auranis. What is Michael's? Will he have one?
Delfedd 08-28-07, 12:36 PM	Quest of the Lords By saying "Lord (lords when there are more) of power, grant me your quest." This quest manifests in a one day long obsession in finding the artifacts. The target cannot eat, drink, or rest, all he may do is perform a forced march in the direction of the artifact. The person using the incantation knows where the closest artifact not in his possession is, and goes through all costs to aquire it. I think it fits the flavor of the Lords. Obsession with artifacts and whatnot... yeah.
d24478667 08-28-07, 12:47 PM	Cool. Lots more reinforcements for them, eh? Make someone pick up an artifact, then send a devil to kill him/her... There you go, a new artifact lord/lady. Right? Would anyone mind if I had Auranis make an airship artifact/plane? It would be a flagship, but also his laboratory. And it would have a portal in it to Enfermia. But, I will only do this if no one minds, so does anyone?
Delfedd 08-28-07, 03:17 PM	Eh. That's lame. What I'm planning is for them to aquire more of the artifacts, killing the ones who currently hold them, and then having them eventually be killed by assassins (not my own)
d24478667 08-28-07, 03:22 PM	Ah, but still more reinforcements. Basically you're giving something to people to get more for yourself, right? I'm just trying to understand your idea.
Delfedd 08-28-07, 03:27 PM	Eh... I think I might mind. There's too many independant Also, Auranis should get off the material plane. It's slightly imbalancing for a deity to walk among mortals. Are you ever going to join enfermia? I invited you... And, since Auranis is LE, eventually powerful heroes would band together and weaken then destroy him or whatever. It's a standard D&D plotline. Especially if you're on the material plane.
Delfedd 08-28-07, 03:28 PM	Of course. I'm... Lawful Evil. That's kind of what I do. But what they get from it is knowledge of a powerful artifact. And you could (theoretically) use it to track down a BBEG.
d24478667 08-28-07, 03:32 PM	He did join Enfermia, he just has been tinkering in his lab. It is a shame though... I was getting to like the airship idea.
Delfedd 08-28-07, 03:46 PM	Think about all the problems it would cause though. Mortals can't destroy a Plane. An airplane, certainly, but not a plane made by a god. Hehe... that's a good play on words. Anyway, that would make the gnomes literally rule the world. They could not be stopped. That's impressive. Now, if you did it subtlely, so that no one noticed, I would be proud. But as it is, you wouldn't have time to set it up before someone destroyed it.
d24478667 08-28-07, 03:51 PM	So, what's wrong with a gnomocracy? It would be interesting... And then lead to their extermination by all the other gods. So yeah, that would be a bad thing. Well, would people mind if I made an airship artifact with a portal to Enfermia?
Camu 08-28-07, 04:22 PM	The Living plane I made is a bioship of unimaginable size, so is Endless Hunger, so I wouldn't see why not
Destrieth 08-28-07, 06:01 PM	Will of Retribution (DC 10 Cha check) "Mistress of Retribution/Alusia, grant me the means to avenge myself, for (name) has wronged me." The invoker, until the named is killed, receives a +1 morale bonus on attack rolls and +2 on damage rolls against that person. When using this invocation, the speaker must speak with conviction, or it does not work and the invoker takes 1d3 damage to charisma, strength, constitution, and dexterity. One cannot simply, before battle, claim a wrong has been done, and reap the combat benefits. The repercussions are heavy, and beyond the direct negative side effects, invoking Alusia's name in a situation that doesn't merit it is likely to draw the ire of the overgoddess. Cost: When the named is killed, the invoker is compelled to answer truthfully regarding the slaying of the named. (Example: "Did you kill (Named)?" the invoker must answer truthfully.) Blessed Lovers (DC 10 Cha check) "Celeste, sanctify this union." This invocation must be spoken by two lovers. Each of them receive a magical golden ring on their ring fingers that allow the two to communicate via empathy. In addition, their first child will be born without complications. Cost: If one of the lovers ever becomes unfaithful, they become sterile.
Kirtanus_Albacron 08-28-07, 07:39 PM	Ok. Did you edit the post? Edit the post for what?
Delfedd 08-28-07, 10:03 PM	For making sense? so you don't burst out of my plane.
Zebppir 08-28-07, 10:27 PM	Nequelleden's obsession anyone saying the phrase:goddess of wrath grant me the power to gain the object of my desire and the effects depends on two things one if you are a spellcaster on you gain a +2 bonus to caster level if you are a nonspellcaster you gain a +2 bonus to strength and intimidate results.For both nonspellcasters and spellcasters if someone/something gets in the way double the bonus Cost:the cost of this invocation is you gain an unrelenting obsession with someone/something and will do anything to gain the object/person of the obsession.If duriation expires/completion then suffers a penalty equaling double the bonus for the same duration DC 12 Timelimit:one year sorry I wanted to create a new invocation so I combined the two sorry if this creates confusion at all:embarrass
d24478667 08-28-07, 10:30 PM	Not a problem.
CombatMedic 08-29-07, 09:05 PM	Zebppir-were am I going to find it I started with 3d edition Hmmm, try the Spell Compendium.
CombatMedic 08-29-07, 09:07 PM	I like the new guidelines for invocations and Disciple Feats. I'll post those for both my goddesses soon. Just need a little time to think about it. Thanks. -Ewan
Delfedd 08-29-07, 10:09 PM	I was trying to find the Acolyte thing. I know that it's before the mage hand, and The guidelines for the invocations... well, I guess it's something like this. 1 per encounter, DC is ten as a mental ability score check, and it's a minor power, equivalent to a 0th level spell.
Delfedd 08-29-07, 10:20 PM	And here's the Disciple feat. I'm making it it's own subcatergory of feats. Acolyte of Morintu (Disciple) Prerequistite: Worshiper of Morintu, Lawful Evil, Neutral Evil, or Lawful Neutral. Benifit: Once per day you may cast Gust of wind, cause fear, or magic stone. At fifth level, you gain the ability to cast Fly, Animate Dead, or Stone Shape, once per day. At twelfth level, they may cast chain lightning, Storm of Vengence, or Earthquake once per day. At twentieth level, they may cast Elemental Swarm to summon an air or earth elemental or Wail of the banshee. The save DC is 10+spell level+Intelegence or wisdom. The caster level is equal to your level. Normal You get nothing.]
d24478667 08-30-07, 01:06 AM	You put 'Lawful Neutral, Neutral Evil, or Lawful Neutral' as opposed to, 'Lawful Neutral, Neutral Evil, or Lawful Evil.'
Return of the Flumph 08-30-07, 03:13 AM	Okay, just to have everything in one place: Invocation: Glykllivar's Path If you succeed at a Wisdom check (DC 10), you gain the ability to walk, jump, fight, and do all manner of other things on the surface of salt water as if it were dry land for one round. For three rounds after this ability, you must remain at least ankle deep in salt water or be dazed. This is usable once per encounter. Acolyte of Glykllivar (Disciple) Prerequistite: Must be a worshipper of Glykllivar, must be chaotic good, neutral good, or chaotic neutral. Benifit: Once per day you may cast Water Breathing, Protection from Evil, or Bless Water. At fifth level, you gain the ability to cast Airy Water, Prayer, or Black Tentacles, once per day. At twelfth level, they may cast Plane Shift, Summon Monster VI (chaotic good only), or Forbiddence once per day. At twentieth level, they may cast Greater Spell Immunity, Creeping Doom (poisonous shrimp rather than centipedes; same stats, but can breath water and have a land and swim speed of 20), or Greater Teleport once per day. The save DC is 10+spell level+charisma or wisdom. The caster level is equal to your level. Normal: You get nothing. Invokation: The Sage's Forethought If you succeed at a Wisdom check (DC 10), you gain a +2 insight bonus to your next initiative roll. The next time you commit a chaotic act, however, you become dazed for 1 round. Multiple uses of this ability stack their penalties, and can daze you for as many consecutive chaotic acts as you use the invokation. This is usable once per encounter. Acolyte of the Sage (Disciple) Prerequistite: Must be a worshipper of the Sage, must be lawful good, lawful neutral, or true neutral. Benifit: Once per day you may cast True Strike, Blur, or Identify. At fifth level, you gain the ability to cast Major Image, Locate Object, or Dispel Magic once per day. At twelfth level, they may cast Legend Lore, True Seeing, or Programmed Image once per day. At twentieth level, they may cast Moment of Prescience or Temporal Stasis once per day. The save DC is 10+spell level+intelligence or wisdom. The caster level is equal to your level. Normal: You get nothing.
Delfedd 08-30-07, 12:13 PM	Just as an FYI in the interest of fair play and whatnot. Enfermia has been, and always will be, a corrupting force. Those deities sign the pact find themselves being drawn to lawful evilness. I want to inform people of that. Especially before everyone joins both pacts. Because that's getting silly.
d24478667 08-30-07, 12:21 PM	Well, if Frostbite had known that, he wouldn't have joined... Morintu would be pretty mad if he left though, right?
Camu 08-30-07, 12:47 PM	One of he reasons that Ooulzoth isn't in one, is it robs a little of your gods freedom. I also find it kind of silly to join more then one faction (except maybe an overdeity, like Alusia, since she is kinda the boss of us all), since the ones we have are kind of opposits of each other
Delfedd 08-30-07, 12:47 PM	Yup. That's EXACTLY the point. :D Enfermia was built to trap and corrupt gods. I wished more people would've joined.... but oh well.
d24478667 08-30-07, 01:01 PM	That one's bull. Enfermia was made before Morintu fell, so while it may have been reconstructed to do that, it was originally built as a haven from those in TyDyw.
Camu 08-30-07, 01:04 PM	That one's bull. Enfermia was made before Morintu fell, so while it may have been reconstructed to do that, it was originally built as a haven from those in TyDyw. I agree, plus it's a little late to state that all members now would suddenly get this change, it should have been hinted out longer that they where changing
Destrieth 08-30-07, 01:11 PM	Okay, I'm siding with Delfedd here. Look at Enfermian history. Its two biggest champions were Morintu and Alusia. Both of them had some great drama surrounding them in the middle of LoC, and were the pinnacles of evil. It's just how Enfermia is, how the two shaped it: you can't be allied closely with a plane primarily comprised of devils and slaughter and ignore it without succumbing bit by bit to evil. And I don't mean 'I go kick puppies overnight evil'. It's a gradual shift.
d24478667 08-30-07, 01:14 PM	I wasn't saying it couldn't corrupt people; he just made it sound like that was the original purpose, which it wasn't.
Destrieth 08-30-07, 01:15 PM	How do you know that? Did you make Enfermia, d#? No, you didn't.
d24478667 08-30-07, 01:17 PM	Because Enfermia was made before Morintu fell; why would he want to corrupt people if he wasn't evil?
Destrieth 08-30-07, 01:18 PM	Morintu had been set up to fall LONG before then, D#. Ask Delfedd yourself. People don't just up and fall in one big burst. It's usually a long, degrading change. Don't you remember Morintu's desire to bring Law to things?
d24478667 08-30-07, 01:19 PM	You know, that is true. I concede the point.
Destrieth 08-30-07, 01:20 PM	Also, sorry if I sounded testy. I didn't mean to come off as such :P
d24478667 08-30-07, 01:21 PM	You did sound a little testy, but I think I may have also... If so, I also apologize. And it actually kind of fits, because after Frostbite came back, he did act a little more lawful. Obeying Alusia's command is probably the prime example, though he did follow one of Morintu's as well.
Destrieth 08-30-07, 01:28 PM	That's exactly what I was thinking of, actually.
d24478667 08-30-07, 01:32 PM	And now, to see how well Frostbite can evade Morintu's attacks. If it comes to that, of course.
Destrieth 08-30-07, 03:39 PM	I dunno how anyone is going to react... but am I the only one who thinks TyDyw is a lame name? If I'm the only one who thinks so I'll be quiet about it...
d24478667 08-30-07, 03:40 PM	It is a little annoying. Enfermia makes me think of disease, myself. Probably because 'Enfermo' is the Spanish word for disease.
Camu 08-30-07, 03:40 PM	probably because it hasn't got a meaning in the name Enfermia just gives you a feeling of what it represents, even by the sound of it. (it reminds me more of enforce, and the laws it wants to enforce)
Delfedd 08-30-07, 03:55 PM	Yeah. Enforce, Ferme is french for Flame, Infernal... I wanted it to be evocative.
d24478667 08-30-07, 03:56 PM	Just saying that it is remarkably close to the spanish word for disease. Well, if you say that corruption is a disease, the name fits.
CombatMedic 08-31-07, 12:32 AM	I am okay with TyDw's name.I do wonder about proper pronounciation. Enfermia reminds me of Inferno.
CombatMedic 08-31-07, 12:34 AM	I am going to bed. G'nite everybody. Oh, and is it month 3 or 4? I know it's a new month, but which one?
Return of the Flumph 08-31-07, 12:40 AM	I'm moving into my dorm this weekend, so I won't be able to post for a little while. Just a heads up.
Destrieth 08-31-07, 12:41 AM	Man, you're just moving in? Where do you go to school?
Return of the Flumph 08-31-07, 12:50 AM	George Washington University.
Kirtanus_Albacron 08-31-07, 01:35 AM	Invocation: Selevern's Freedom If you succeed on a DC 10 Charisma Check and say the words," Selevern, break this chain." one chain of your choice is broken. If you use this for evil intention, or do an evil deed within 10 rounds of using this invocation, you are stunned for 5 rounds. This is usable once per encounter.
d24478667 08-31-07, 01:41 AM	No. Sorry, but no. The invocation is supposed to be equal to a level 0 spell. That is close to equal to Knock, a level 2 spell. EDIT: The new version is better, no idea where it lies on the power scale though.
Illeveun Bloodblaze 08-31-07, 02:09 PM	I think TyDw's pronunciation is Tee-dew. At least, that is how I say it.
Destrieth 08-31-07, 02:10 PM	Just like the answer to 'how many licks does it take to get to the center of a tootsie pop', the world may never know. :D
d24478667 08-31-07, 02:11 PM	I pronouce it Tie Dew myself... Tie like what you wear, dew like on grass.
Camu 09-01-07, 06:44 AM	Ok, out of boredom, I started to search the regalia posts within this thread sword (http://forums.gleemax.com/showpost.php?p=12362594&postcount=1306) 3 of them (http://forums.gleemax.com/showpost.php?p=12419287&postcount=1660) 4 of them (http://forums.gleemax.com/showpost.php?p=12493948&postcount=1841) 5 of them (http://forums.gleemax.com/showpost.php?p=12570702&postcount=1958)
Delfedd 09-01-07, 09:20 AM	Yup. You're just missing the Crown of stars.
Camu 09-01-07, 09:26 AM	Crown is in the others, well the stats anyway. But can't find the last one. Or where there only 5 in the set. That would be weird because it would give you a X.5 DvR
Delfedd 09-01-07, 09:43 AM	Naw, you have to find the part where they first find the crown.
Camu 09-01-07, 09:50 AM	pffff, you look, i'm tired looking :P
Delfedd 09-01-07, 01:26 PM	*Shrug* But anyway, you know it's real now.
d24478667 09-01-07, 01:29 PM	Yep. Delfedd, did you get the PM I sent ya?
Camu 09-02-07, 02:44 PM	is it just me, or is LoC slowing down a bit?
d24478667 09-02-07, 02:54 PM	Me and Delfedd will shake things up pretty soon.
Delfedd 09-02-07, 03:09 PM	I think that The reason things seem to be slowing down is that it is the begining of the school year. Many people are working and stuff nowadays. There's not much we can do about it.
Return of the Flumph 09-02-07, 07:31 PM	Aye. Once I get my school routine for this semester down, I'll hopefully be able to post more.
Delfedd 09-03-07, 02:08 PM	I've been thinking, we don't really have the great wonders of the world. No Colosuses of Rhodes, no Sistene chapels, nothing like that. Maybe one or two things. So I think that we should all begin making up 2-4 amazingly neat manmade structures as well as the natural formations we're making. These can be retconned. It's not like all of a sudden our races are going to make cool stuff.
d24478667 09-03-07, 02:11 PM	The Coral City could be one, if RotF wishes to do that.
Return of the Flumph 09-03-07, 09:18 PM	I accept the coral city thingy. We just need to describe it more fully. Also, I seem to recall the myconids leaving bizarre stone monoliths on the surface during the Long Night. Maybe one of them can be amazingly huge.
Delfedd 09-03-07, 11:19 PM	Righto. I like how the chaotic races in this world are... well... chaotic. They don't try to impose law. They live on the edges of civilization, barely eking out an existence. Their wonders should be... interesting. I think I might make a Wonder with the Abel. Those guys are nuts.
Delfedd 09-04-07, 04:29 PM	Dudes... Guess what? I told my players about creation, and, even though it's not done yet, they still want to play here! I'm quite excited.
d24478667 09-04-07, 05:59 PM	If they hurry up, they could actually change the game world. (By which I mean play right now, while we're still working on it.)
Delfedd 09-04-07, 11:35 PM	Eh... it'd be difficult to pull that off. Anywho, I'm using the Savage tide ap. If you're playing in it, don't read this. Demogorgon is in the game. I know I need to change him around, but how should I do it? What should the prince of demon's flavor be?
Camu 09-05-07, 04:37 AM	Demogorgon is in the game. He is? Isn't it better if we create a couple of unique demons for this campain, rather then making copies of the standard game. Like me and evil_dm did for the demodand lords.
Delfedd 09-05-07, 07:15 AM	Demogorgon is in the standard campaign I mean. I'm trying to figure out how to reflavor him. I don't want my players running into the two headed beast that they'll recognize. What should he look like?
Return of the Flumph 09-05-07, 11:18 AM	Demogorgon in my game looks like a gigantic, chitin-plated shark with two xenomorph heads and lots of tentacles. I emphasize his connection to nightmares, chaos, and entropy. I also recommend looking at the Dicefreaks writeup for inspiration; their fluff for him is pretty nifty.
Delfedd 09-05-07, 02:26 PM	Hm. That's interesting. I was thinking of having him function on land, but... I like that. What's a more "nightmarish" name for the prince of Demons?
d24478667 09-05-07, 02:47 PM	I would take a dreamlike word, fantasia perhaps, and then twist it. Delfedd, I would just like to remind you that the Vazalkyon sent a diplomat to the Impish people.
Return of the Flumph 09-05-07, 07:00 PM	He pulls himself on land using his tentacles. Or hovers. He's the Prince of Demons, he can move however he wants. For an alternate name, how about Yaldaboath? That is the name of a mythological entity (late gnostic mythos) associated with the name Demogorgon in certain texts. And it sounds scary.
CombatMedic 09-06-07, 06:58 AM	Gnostics are scary.
Delfedd 09-06-07, 07:53 AM	Just as an FYI for people who where wondering, Frostbite approached me about dying. I just thought this thing would be cooler. Trapped gods and whatnot. Speaking of Trapped gods, what're those gods from the shardworlds doing?
Return of the Flumph 09-06-07, 09:16 AM	I'm planning for the shardworld gods to escape and try to return home sometime. I want to play as one of them when we make Shardworld.
Camu 09-06-07, 10:36 AM	About the Shardworlds You guys wanna do this from the start of it's creation or from the moment ooulzoth starts to invade?
Return of the Flumph 09-06-07, 12:14 PM	From its creation. Otherwise, we will kind of miss the point (that being to make completely organic campaign settings).
Delfedd 09-06-07, 03:35 PM	YEAR 3 MONTH 4
CombatMedic 09-06-07, 07:56 PM	New month! :)
d24478667 09-06-07, 08:18 PM	I would like to remark that I contacted Delfedd about Frostbite's death, not Frostbite's imprisonment. So yeah, that made me a little mad, because I had a plan for what he would do post mortem.
Delfedd 09-06-07, 10:15 PM	You're essentially dead. Send the artifacts away. It's fine. *Shrug*
d24478667 09-06-07, 10:19 PM	The artifacts and mausoleum and such are a contingency for when he dies; its not going to set off while he's still alive, I mean, all of the notes basically say he's dead, Arteheyn's the clearest.
Delfedd 09-06-07, 10:32 PM	Do they have to? I mean, you didn't do anything before hand with them. You could have them go out at your command.
d24478667 09-06-07, 11:04 PM	No, but I would rather do it that way. G'night.
alchemyprime 09-06-07, 11:46 PM	Sorry I haven't been on so much lately. I've been doing homework and such. School's getting into full gear, so I may not be able to update too regularly outside of weekends until my Wii is hooked into the interweb. So, for a while, Tanner may be a bit calmer. Well, no accounting for Trickery, because Delfedd technically controls her. So, I'm out for the night. Too tired to update Tanner's actions. He's gonna make Vodyanoi and trash the Trogia project. That's bout it.
CombatMedic 09-07-07, 11:36 PM	Partially updated. Please let me know what needs to be added/changed. -Ewan [1] Absaul-rote (Missing) the storyteller [DR:50] Supreme Deity, Bard35/Monk15, [AP:6] Symbol: Quill Home: Void Alignment: Neutral Domains: Creation, Time, Fire, Sun, Cold, Darkness Portfolio: Worshipers: Favored Weapon: Quill (longsword) Avatar: Travelling Storyteller [2] Amon (Dead) [DvR 20] Greater Deity, Cleric/Paladin 47, [AP:6] Symbol: White Staff Home: Haven Alignment: Lawful Neutral Domains: Law, Fate, Good, Knowledge, Death, Dwarf, Dwarf Portfolio: Order, Good, Wisdom, Heroes Worshipers: druids, nomads, scholars, kings, judges, philosophers, paladins, monks, wizards Favored Weapon: Spear of Fate Avatar: An old soldier Species Created: Lung, Merfolk, Titans, Dwarves, Runebound [3] Ahuizotl (Missing) the sleeping god, the man on the moon He who cleaved the world in two [DvR 16] Greater Deity, Barbarian 20/Fighter 20, [AP:5] Symbol: A double-bladed axe Home: pending; (Plane of Light,moon) Alignment: Chaotic Domains: Chaos, Battle, Plants, Moon Portfolio: Chaos Worshipers: Barbarians, Mercenaries, Bandits, Favored Weapon: "Bloodseeker" an obsidian-edged greataxe Avatar: A powerfully built humanoid with the head and fur of a black panther, wearing ornate gold breastplate and wielding a giant-sized axe. Spceis created: protean plants, ahuizotls [4] Kur-ah (Dead) He who saw, Furnace of Foresight [DvR 16] Greater Deity, Druid 20/Wizard (Diviner) 20 Symbol: A heart of molten stone Home: Void Alignment: True Neutral Domains: Fire, Earth, Rune, Knowledge, Dragons Portfolio: Fire, Magma, Earth, Prophecy Worshipers: Druids, Seers, Doomsayers, Dragons Favored Weapon: "The Rock and The Flame" Dire Flail, one stone head, one burning head. Avatar: The shape of an elderly man with beard and wearing robes that are made out of stone. His mouth and eyes glow with the intence fire that is the heart of the world. He has a gaping hole in his chest that shines with the purple light of magic. Species Created: Dragons, Minotaurs, Centaurs, Keepers, Rilmani, Azer, nerra, elemental weirds [5] Arteheyn the River Maiden [DvR 18] Greater Deity, Druid 21 Cleric 20 [AP7] Symbol: a silver scaled fish, a green snake, or a stylized icon depicting a blue river against a green background[ rectangle crossed by a snaking blue line] Home: Earth, Arteheyn's Garden Alignment:Neutral Domains: Water, Animals, Community, Weather, Plants, Spider Portfolio: precipitation , nourishment of living things, rivers Worshipers: farmers, herders , river folk, minotaurs, myconids Favored Weapon: Flail of Sundering[ heavy flail] Avatar: She appears as a fair young woman, clad in simple garb of blue or green. She is barefoot, and leaves watery tracks behind herself. Her silvery hair flows as if she were floating in a stream. Species Created: Tritons, Coautls, Tendriculos, Assassin Vines, Animals and Plants, Oceanic Creatures, Dragons, Desert Plants, Sauguaro Sentinels, myconids, chevalls, Animal Lords, Spiders, mortai, dire animals, giant bugs[ants, bees, etc.], ankhegs, basilisks, dragonnes, shocker lizards, fungoid guardian species[violet fungi, phantom fungi, basidironds, ascomoids], minor deaths, ettercaps, actaeons, talking beasts ,water elementals, cryions, golems,aurumvoraxes [6] Morintu Skylord [DvR 20] Greater Deity, Monk/Druid 41 [AP:6] Symbol: The thousand chains Home: Plane of Air Alignment: Lawful Neutral Domains: Air, Storm, Law, Dragons, Undeath, Fury, Death, Earth Portfolio: Weather, Justice, the Undead Worshipers: Sailors, Druids, Judges, Astrologers, Dragons Favored Weapon: Shackles of Justice (A series of chains which tie him to the stars.) Avatar: A Bipedal, winged Lion with the head of a serpent and hands of a Man. He has a great, whipping serpent's tail. His chains bind him to the universe. He drifts through the world like a dust mote on the wind. Species Created: Vaati, Dragons, Inevitables, Djini, Undead, Liches, Death Knights, Devils, Mummies, Ghouls, Ghasts, Kobolds,gnomes,earth elemntals, air elementals, dretches, abel and abeloks, halflings [7] Ry'theal (Dead) [DR:12] Intermediate Deity, Duskblade 21/Fighter 15, [AP:4] Symbol: A Sun Shining Above a Plateau Home: The Sun Alignment: Chaotic Good Domains: Sun, Pride, Freedom, Protection Portfolio: Worshipers: Warriors Favored Weapon: Ray of Light(Spear) Avatar: An almost dog-like biped, with opposable thumbs, but paws for feet. His fur color is dirty blonde, and instead of a dog face there is one much like an elf, but with two tiny horns on top of his head. Species Created: Solanthi, ramadeen, sun-trees [8] Lexius the Blue [Dvr16] Greater Deity , Wizard 19 Spellthief15 , psion ,cerebremancer2 __________________ Accord to a test, my stats are:[AP:7] Symbol: Upside-down Crescent Moon, vertically upon that is a maul. Home: Paradise Alignment: Neutral good Domains: Magic, Moon, Liberation, Madness Portfolio: Arcane Magic Worshippers: Wizards, Sorcerers, Ezera Favored Weapon: Unstoppable Might of Magic (Maul) Avatar: Bipedal Hawlklike Creature, wearing robes, with a maul apon his back Species created: ezera, rogue modrons [9] NAME: Akhier (Missing) [DR:9] Lesser Deity, Sorc/psion seer 30 Battle Sorc/Pyrokineticist 4 [AP:7] Symbol: a sideways hourglass Home: Reehier (giant tree) Alignment: Chaotic Neutral Domains: Time, Glory, Portfolio: Worshipers: Seers, Psions, Ystalhier Favored Weapon: staff of the day(a crystal quarterstaff with flaming burst on both ends) Avatar: a constantly changing fluid crystals in the shape of a man that has a warm glow radiating out from him with eyes like 2 suns of intense fire [10] Kersys (Missing) [DR:6] Lesser Deity, Beguiler 20/Swordsage 14 Symbol: A sphere of darkness with an inscribed hourglass, half-filled on each side. Home: Earth Alignment: Lawful Neutral Domains: Time, Darkness Portfolio: Time, night, darkness Worshipers: Rogues, beguilers, thieves, (any that operate by night) Favored Weapon: Nightbringer (two-bladed sword) Avatar: The Night Within: A humanoid form wearing entirely black, almost made out of the substance of darkness and the night sky. In the middle of his back the phases of the moon are inscribed as if they were carved into his very substance. His eyes reflect the night sky, but he has no other facial features. Species Created: Rodents, Dusklings [11] Frostbite [DR]:18 Greater Deity Druid 15/Totemist15 [AP:6] Symbol: A white rose on a Snowflake Home: Earth Alignment: Chaotic Good Domain: Winter, Community, Cold Portfolio: Frost, Cold, Community Worshippers: Frost Mages, Arctic Peoples Favored Weapon: Glacieso's Eye (Bow) Avatar:White dragon, with icy wings, teeth, and claws. Species Created: Arctic Rose Lizardfolk, Woodlings, Thrym hounds, Vazalkyon, [12] Kyrinian [missing] DR [6] Lesser Deity, Barbarian 14/Ranger 14 Symbol: A red spear striking a green circle and a waning blue crescent Home: Earth Alignment: Chaotic Neutral Domains: Summer, Dream Portfolio: Summer, Moon Worshippers: Favored Weapon: Sword of Summer's Strike (Greatsword) Avatar: A humanoid with the lower body of a wolf, and the upper body of a young man with red hair, green eyes, and the antlers of a deer. His torso is covered with green streaks that that grow and shimmer. Creatures Created: Nereids, Dryads, Glitterhaunts, Lycanthropes, Nightmares, Unicorns, Eladrin, Salamanders, succubi, harpies [13] Name: K’Thymon The Scaled One (Missing) [DR 11] Intermediate Deity Sorcerer 20/Barbarian 21 Home: The Mountains by the Chasm Alignment: Neutral Domains: Dragons Portfolio: Dragons, mountains, fire. Worshippers: Dragons, sorcerers, sentient reptiles, sometimes barbarians. Favored Weapon: Iron Claw (Greatsword) Avatar: A scaled humanoid, wiry and tall (just below Large sized) with scales of many colors, a greatsword strung across his back, and a black robe, and similar eyes that seem to look through everything instead of at it. [14] Glykllivar the sailor, empress of the deep [DvR: 18] Greater Deity, Ranger 20/Druid 21 Symbol: a blank flag Home: Lahach Alignment: Chaotic Good Domains: Ocean, Travel, Protection Portfolio: sailors, aquatic beings, the sea in general, etc. Worshipers: Seamen, fishermen, aquatic beings Favored Weapon: a barbed longspear Avatar: A beautiful brown haired female humanoid in naval dress (the sailor), or a bluish female torso with an eel’s head (empress of the deep) or gigantic octopus/shark/crab hybrid Species Created: Dragon Turtles, Sea Giants, Morkoths, Ocean Giants, Sea Elves, [15]NAME: Pholtone (Dead) [DR:11] Intermediate Deity, rogue 20/ ninja 15 [4 AP] Symbol: a hand grasping a red orb Home: plane of light Alignment: Chaotic Neutral Domains: Chaos, Moon, Healing Portfolio:chaos, light, moon Worshipers: barbarians, mercenaries, Favored Weapon: the fingernail (kukri) Avatar: a creature (the most common race in the area) with a large hand and a wrist instead of a head and a neck Creatures Created: Athachs, Slaad [16] Kakavindus (Missing) The False Dragon [DvR: 16] Greater Deity, Rogue 20/Wizard 20 [AP: 8] Symbol: Black four-pointed star Home: Karkeri (Plane of Evil) Alignment: Neutral Evil Domains: Evil, Destruction Portfolio: Violence, all manner of evil Worshippers: Evil creatures, some Wind Dukes, Worgs, Yugoloths Favored weapon: “Corrupting Edge,” a poisoned falchion Avatar: A dark humanoid possessing the face and claws of a wolf, the wings of a black dragon, and a reptilian tail tipped with a stinger. Creatures Created: Worgs, Yugoloths, Gnolls [17] Alusia The Golden Lady, Watcher of Creation [DR:34] Supreme deity, Warblade 30 [AP:10]Wizard 20 Symbol: A broken sword Home: Gorgild Alignment: Lawful Neutral Domain: Wrath, Retribution, Fire, Creation Portfolio: - Worshippers: None Favored weapon: The Quill of Creation (Longsword) Avatar: The avatar of Alusia is a white-skinned humanoid female clad in golden flowing garments. Golden light pours from eyes like pools of mercury and golden steam wafts from her nose and mouth. Creatures Created: MM Angels, Werelions, Hobgoblins, Vengeance Fey, Fire Elementals [18] NAME: Avnuk (Dead) [DR: 6] Lesser Deity, Wizard 24 / Psion (savant) 10 Symbol: A skull of a dragon, with Bright red eyes Home: Anacrix Alignment: Neutral Domains: Necromancy, Deathbound Portfolio: Death, Undeath, Power, Corruption Worshipers: Necromancers, Cultists Favored Weapon: Reach Of Corruption (staff) Avatar: A young, pale, Black robed man with one bright red eye and a skeletal hand. Creatures Created: Vampires [19] NAME: Kethvok (Missing) [DR: 11] Intermediate Deity, fighter 30 / assassin 8 Symbol: Two axes forming a cross, in front of a broken shield Home: Void Alignment: Evil Domains: War, Hatred Portfolio: Death, Destruction, War Worshipers: Warriors Favored Weapon: Fanged Slayer (Claymore) Avatar: A large Male orc, with numerous scars all over his body. He wears tough leather armor, adorned with the skulls of various creatures Creatures Created: Orcs [20] Name: Elvunil (Missing) [DR:15] Intermediate Deity, Bard30/Monk10, [AP:4] Symbol: A red book, with a white eye in the center Home: Void Alignment: Neutral Domains: Pact, Oracle Portfolio: The future, present, and past, alliances Worshipers: Sages, and knowledge seekers. Favored Weapon: the Fist Avatar: Travelling Monk. Long white hair, and deep blue eyes and a look of knowledge on his face. [21]Corwyn (Missing) [DR:6] Gestalt Rogue/Sorc 30 Symbol: Golden Triangle with mouth-like semi circle inside. Home: Void Alignment: Chaotic Neutral Domain - Trickery Portfolio - Deceit, Seduction, and Wit Worshipers: Con men, seducers, and flatterers Favored Weapon: Razor Wit - Rapier Avatar: He appears it whatever form the local populace has. However, he always appears as an incredibly beautiful androgynous being, whose sex is questionable. He always pays attention to what is most fashionable for the populace, and wears only the most fashionable clothes. [22]Father Blight (Dead) [DR:11] Intermediate Deity, Cleric 20, rogue 15, [AP:4] Symbol: A gold ring Home: Void Alignment: Chaotic Evil Domains: Pestilance, Vile Darkness, Madness Portfolio: Sickness, monsters, challanges, danger, threats, evolution of good, degridation of evil. Worshipers: Blighters, rogues, cultists, (dogma has little apeal to most evil creatures) Favored Weapon: Thrusting hand (punching dagger) Avatar: Humanoid dressed in smart and neat black clothes that are at the height of fashion in the area, Left half handsom but cold with sholder length black hair, blue eye and neat moustash, right half degraded rotting slime and puss covered body with a white eye and stingy grey hair. Right hand is gloved. Creatures Created: Dopplegangers, Hags, Goblins, Rakshasa, Derro 23]NAME: Ooulzoth He-who-Hungers, The Faceless Lord, Lord of Nothing,… [DR:20] Intermediate Deity, Cleric20/Oozemaster15, [AP:9] Symbol:A Worm with tentacles. Home: Void Alignment: Neutral Evil (maybe a bit to the chaotic) Domains: Hunger, Slime, Destruction Portfolio: hunger, slimes, oozes, jellies Worshipers: (anyone foolish enough) Favored Weapon:Tentacle or Pseudopod or Artifact Symbiotes Avatar:It looks like a giant worm with tentacles. It's skin is made out of a black an purple looking crust, whitch constantly shifts and cracks, and oozes out green slime.Thousands of small eyes cover it’s body. On it’s back are several volcano-like structures that constantly emit a purple black cloud of spores. Another form is that of a faceless humanoid made entirely of ooze and slime. It has tendrils and tentacles for hair. He wears several symbiotes, a red gauntlet on his right hand, a dark tentacled bracer on his left, a dark armor with a hive like structure and 2 worm tentacles. He also has a mask that also has no face on it. Creatures Created: Demodands, kythons, tsochar, neogi, chuul, grell, Void ships, Voidlings, mindflayers of Thoon,locusts, Ixitxachitl, Avolakias. [24]Britmara [DR: 6] lesser deityCrusader level 30 Symbol: A small bird perched atop a upright sword's point, against a background formed by an azure shield clustered with seven silver stars. Home: Haven Alignment: Neutral Good [leaning toward LG] Domain: Courage Portfolio: courage , hope, defense of the weak and the innocent Worshippers: good folk beset by evil, soldiers entering righteous battle, crusaders and zealots who oppose evil Favored weapon: Merciful Stroke[bastard sword] Avatar: Her avatar appears as a female humanoid , beautiful and athletic with a celestial aura about her. She wears partial plate and mail armor of graceful and lightweight design. A shield is strapped on her left arm. She carries a sword at her side. [Think of the MM1 image of the ghaele eladrin, that's close]. Creatures Created: Lupins, Havenite Harriers [Arcadian Avengers] [25]NAME:Therias Lord of Trade, Coin's Soul [DR:6] wizard5/expert10/fighter10 Symbol: A coin with a ship engraving. Home: Void Alignment: Neutral Domains: Commerce [I think its called that] Portfolio: Trade, traders, economy in general Worshipers:Merchants, caravanists Favored Weapon: Light Crossbow Avatar: A tall middle-aged man with eerie eyes. (The eyeballs are shaped like coins.) He wears richly embroidered clothes. [26]NAME: Mirath Nirik (Missing) Thought Seer, The Mind Bender. [DR:6] Lesser Diety, Psion 20/Mindspy 10 Symbol: A green spark shaped like a circle on a purple backround. Home: Void Alignment: Chaotic Neutral Domains: Mind Portfolio: Psions, Refugees Worshipers:- Psions, Psychic Monsters Favored Weapon: His Mind Avatar:- A young man, slightly tanned, wearing leather pants and many belts. He has no hair and a green tatoo on his face. [27] NAME: Sage [DR: 6] Lesser Deity: Illusionist 20 / Psion 7 / Loremaster 7 Symbol: A metal anulis Home: Disc City (sort of)/Paradise Alignment: Lawful Neutral Domains: Illusion, Knowledge, Law Portfolio: illusion magic, psionics, science, lore Worshipers: natural philosophers, sane psions, some humans,castle goblins,some ezera, gith races Favored Weapon: AMMA-61 Disruption Rod (quarterstaff) Avatar: A hovering, holographic human face made up of numerous transcluscent spheres. He can also speak through his old body in Disc City, which is a metal cube covered in interface modules, plasma screen moniters, and microholoprojectors. Creatures Created: -automatons,clockroaches, gith,mdorns, formians [28]Selevern The Bloodborn, Freedom-Giver, Elf-Father [DvR 20] Rogue 20/Dread Commando 14/ Incarnate 2 AP:6 Home: Respite, Paradise Alignment: Neutral Good Symbol: A Longsword breaking a Chain Domains:Freedom, Elf, Courage, Transformation, Incarnum Portfolio: Gurrellia Tatics, Defending the Weak, Freedom from Tyrants, Elves Worshippers: Rebels, Gurrellia Fighters,Elves Favored Weapon: The Strike of Freedom(Longsword) Avatar: An Elven man clad in full breastplate with blood red cloth covering the leggings and bright red hair. Spcies crated:elves, totem giants, incarnum dragons [29] Tanner The Chrysallis, The Clay, He who Causes Ripples in the Pond [DR:6] Transmuter 17 (Prohibited: Enchantment and Necromancy)/Egoist 12/Rogue3/Cleric 2 Symbol: Butterfly Home: Living Twilight Alignment: Chaotic Neutral Domains: Transformation, Life Portfolio: Evolution of creatures Worshipers: Transmuter, philanderers, scholars (those concerned with evolution), egoists Favored Weapon: Whip or Natural Weapon Avatar: A humanoid of whatever is most adaptable to the reigon, constantly adapting to the new environment, such as suddenly the ears becomeing more elf like, or a nose becoming orcish when a good smell comes by then returning to a human nose, hair color changing, switching from male to female or vice versa, etc. Normally dressed in a white coat, though occasionally dressed in mage's attire or an open vest. Species created: Cactacae, Magebred animals, Grindylow, Changelings, Life Masters (30) Celeste The Daughter of the Sun setting over the Sea [DR 6] Lesser Deity, Sorceress/Bard 30 Symbol: A stylized rose in full bloom Home: Celestri Alignment: Chaotic good Domain: Charm Portfolio: Love, romance, passion, mind-affecting enchantments Worshippers: Seekers of romance, enchanters Favored weapon: Piercing Desire (Longbow and arrows) Avatar: Celeste appears as a young, radiant woman of elven or human descent. She has merry blue eyes and red hair that bears hues of the setting sun. She carries a lute carved of the finest heartwood and wears a red oak bow as well as a quiver filled with arrows. Creatures Created: Nymphs, faerie dragons (31)Nequelleden Artificer 20 [DR:11], intermediate deity, Gallow's Queen The Hidden one , AP4 Symbol: a pure white feather dripping poison into a pool of blood Home:Hidden Paradise Alignment: neutral evil Domain - Evil,Wrath Portfolio - poison,evil alchemists,execution Worshipers: evil creatures/ executioners/ poisonmakers/ evil alchemists Favored Weapon:The Gallow's embrace (exotic poison) Avatar:a hauntingly beautiful woman with flowing red hair with a black silk robe holding a silver goblet overflowing with blood Creations: yochol [32] Auranis DR: 6, Lesser Diety , Wizard 20/Elemental Savant 14 AP=3 Symbol: A gnome with a circle depicting the elements of air, fire, water, and earth. Home: The void Alignment: Neutral Domains: Gnome Portfolio: Gnomes Worshipers: Gnomes Favored Weapon: Dagger (will be updated if he makes his own weapon) Species created: Genasi [33] Rillmar DR: 6, Fighter 34 AP3 Symbol: Three swords forming a triangle, in the middle is a shield Home: The void Alignment: Lawful Evil Domains: Halfling Portfolio: Halflings Worshipers: Halflings, warriors Favored Weapon: Longsword [34] The Artifact lords DR: 6, Cleric 34 AP3 Symbol: The artifacts set on a white field. Home: Conflict on Paradise Alignment: Lawful Evil Domains: Trickery, Corruption, Portfolio: The Regalia, Wealth. Worshipers: Seekers of the Regalia, those who would steal Favored Weapon: Longsword Avatar: Michael, the dark lord. He appears to be a humanoid figure cut out of the void.
d24478667 09-07-07, 11:40 PM	Frostbite is DvR 18, AP: 6. Created Vazalkyon, which are found in a sidebar in MMIII, under Phoelarch.
CombatMedic 09-07-07, 11:44 PM	Roger that.
Return of the Flumph 09-07-07, 11:47 PM	Gly is DVR 18. Also, she now has three forms rather than two (the third being a gigantic octopus/shark/crab hybrid). The Sage should have the Magic and Law domains (they were never given to me, but I think his actions warrant them. If you object, let me know and I'll do what I have to to get them). Add modrons and formians to his creations. Add castle goblins to his worshippers. His alignment has shifted to Lawful Neutral.
d24478667 09-07-07, 11:47 PM	Thank you kindly. Oh, and Frostbite may or may not gain a (Dead) tag soon; the more I think about it, the more I am in indecision about it. It's annoying.
CombatMedic 09-08-07, 12:43 AM	I can see that Sage has moved towards getting both Magic and Law, but I'm not sure he's actually done enough to claim them. Remind me what he has done, please.
CombatMedic 09-08-07, 12:44 AM	Must sleep now. I will check this thread again tomorrow.
Delfedd 09-08-07, 12:56 AM	I'm going to put up the Artifact lords now. [33] The Artifact lords DR: 6, Cleric 34 AP3 Symbol: The artifacts set on a white field. Home: Conflict on Paradise Alignment: Lawful Evil Domains: Trickery, Corruption, Portfolio: The Regalia, Wealth. Worshipers: Seekers of the Regalia, those who would steal Favored Weapon: Longsword Avatar: Michael, the dark lord. He appears to be a humanoid figure cut out of the void.
Kirtanus_Albacron 09-08-07, 12:56 AM	Selevern has DvR 20, and incarnum dragons were taken off of Selevern's species created list, when he did create them.
Return of the Flumph 09-08-07, 12:59 AM	To get the magic domain, the Sage betrayed Lexius and siphoned as much power as he could out of both his carcass and the crystals. To get the law domain, he purchased the Plane of Law, created two races of lawful outsiders, and encourages order and society making among races that would otherwise be savages (ie goblins). Oh, and I just noticed a couple other things. Sage is worshipped by a large percentage of the dwarves and ezera as well, and his home is now Respite, Paradise.
Delfedd 09-08-07, 01:00 AM	Also, I started my Savage tide today. It went really great. We're running the campaign in Creation, which is great. I didn't include all the deities, and I appologize for this in advance. I'm running the campaign from the southern hemisphere, so Frostbite... has little place. Since it's... temperate. I also resurrected some of the more powerful deities to add to the excitement of the game. Kakavindus, Amon, and others show up that where missing for some time. Because of this, I altered their stories a little. Amon The God of Valor, Amon is Lawful Good. He is called the Blood of Magic, The God-Emperor and the Old Soldier. Amon Promotes family values and is the creator of Death. Amon is the lord of many races in the world, and was one of the early deities. Recently, Amon and Morintu's minds became tangled in a battle. Morintu sapped Amon's power and granted it to himself, while Amon lies dying in his palace on his home plane. The dwarven incarnation of the Myth has Asargoth, their patron deity, battle the great dragon. The Asargoth lost the great battle and has retired to his hall. His Favored weapon is the Spear of Fate. Domains are Law, Fate, Good, Knowledge, Death, and Dwarf. His symbol is the White Staff. Arteheyn is the goddess of Nature and is Neutral. She is known as the River Maiden in the various tongues of Creation. Arteheyn is the creator of many things Good, Evil, and neither, and is partially responsible for the survival of civilization during the Long Dark. While not the creator, she is the defacto mistress of the TywDyw, a Diefic organization. She wields the Flail of Sundering, a weapon created from the Chains of Morintu after his first death. Her domains are Water, Animals, Community, Weather, Plants and Spider. Her symbol is a silver scaled fish, a green snake, or a stylized icon depicting a blue river against a green background. Morintu is the God of Earth, Wind, and storms and is Lawful Evil. He is the husband of Arteheyn and father of Glykllivar. He is known by many names, most prominently in the Remnants of the Empire as Skylord, Earthmaster, and The Thousand Chains. He created the Deific organization known as Enfermia. Morintu has also become Death after weakening Amon. After each beings death Morintu appears to welcome them to their next life. He sparked the original evil by stealing the leylines from Lexius. His worship extends over much of “civilized” creation. His Domains are Air, Storm, Law, Evil, Dragons, Undeath, Fury, Death, and most recently, Earth, which he stole from his brother, Kur-ah. His symbol is five chains all linked together on a blue field. Kakavindus Is the god of Evil, and is Neutral Evil. He is known by many names to mortals, including the False dragon. He was born from the original evil, the theft of the Leylines by Morintu. He concealed his darkness for a long time, until Morintu fell from grace. He is the patron of the Yugoloths, master of the worgs, as well as things that live in dark places. He is a member of the TywDyw, and His domains are Evil, Domination, Darkness and Destruction. His favored weapon is “Corrupting edge,” a poisoned Falchion. His symbol is a black four pointed star. Lexius the Blue is the god of Magic, the Moon and freedom and appears to be Neutral Good, although some scholars and deities find this in question, as evil clerics may still cast his spells. Some have theorized that his Freedom extends to the alignment of his worshipers. He is the lord of the more chaotic Ezera, who where scattered by their war with the Dragons. Lexius's clerics preach freedom at any cost, some churches espousing the tennants of freedom at the cost of repression of others. Lexius recently lost his memory in a duel with the Sage and the Artifact Lords, and has recently begun to reform. His domains are Magic, Moon, Liberation, Madness, Good or Evil. His weapon is the Maul of unstoppable might. His symbol is an upside down moon as the head of a maul. Kyrinian is the lord of Summer and is Chaotic Neutral. He is known as the Dreamlord, and the rider of the golden chariot. He has taken to living in his palace in the Dreamrealms during the night and flying the sun's chariot across the sky during the day. He is the lord of the Lycanthropes, and the patron of orcs. He was, at one point, a member of Enfermia. He directs the war against the artifact lords, sending his limitless nightmares against the devils. His domains are Summer, Dream, Sun, moon, orc, and Chaos. His favored weapon is the sword of Summers strike. Glykllivar is the Queen of the oceans and is Chaotic good. She is known as the Sailor and the Empress of the deep. She is the daughter of Arteheyn and Morintu, and is described as vengeful with a very long memory. She is Married to Kyrinian, and is certainly the more powerful of the pair. She is perhaps the most powerful force opposing the forces of Morintu and Enfermia in the world. Her domains are Ocean, Travel, Protection, chaos, and Good. Her Symbol is a blank flag. Ooulzoth is the Lord of the Void and is Chaotic Evil. He is known as He-Who-Hungers, the Faceless lord, and the Lord of Nothing. He was born during a duel between Amon and Morintu, during which Morintu's heart was stabbed out. Morintu's heart animated and became the dark Ooulzoth. Ooulzoth began scouring the void for races to add to his armies, and has assembled thousands of races from thousands of Shardworlds. His domains are Hunger, Slime, Destruction, Chaos and Evil. His symbol is a worm with tentacles. His favored weapon is Artifact Symbiotes. Britmara is the Lady of hope and is Neutral good. She is known as the shieldmaiden, Mistress Courage. Her origins are filled with mystery, since many pages concerning her origins where ripped out of the Book. What is known is that an ancient god Named Darrius went through a great mental change, and several pages later Britmara, a weaker deity, is mentioned with no sign of Darrius. She is an ally of Ooulzoth, and some have wondered if they where lovers, while others discount this entirely. Her domains are Courage, Good, and Healing. Her favored weapon is the Merciful Stroke. Sage is the Lord of Illusion and is Lawful Neutral. Little is known of his origin, save that it is mechanical in nature and his creators hail from one of the Shardworlds. He appears to be a translucient man with a metalic skelleton, although he can take any shape he pleases. His domains include Illusion, Knowledge, and Law. His symbol is a metal anulis The Artifact Lords The artifact lords where created when Morintu made the Regalia. Their link to these items is fuzzy, but it is known that Morintu is their master. There are currently five Artifact lords. Michael has a humanoid form of blackness, and is linked to the staff. He is the most powerful of the artifact lords. Iladia is almost certainly a Plainsrunner, as there are records of a queen among them. She is linked to the crown. Sargoz was a lizardfolk king who is linked to the Armor. He has an extra pair of arms to better function in combat. Gorthag was a black dragon as a mortal, but now is much more. He is linked to the Cape. Solitha is a cursed ezera, relieved of his curse by the Sword. Their symbol is the arrayed artifacts. Their domains are Trickery, corruption, war, Law, and evil.
d24478667 09-08-07, 01:10 AM	Cool for you. Let us know how it goes? Though it would've been cool, in my humble opinion, if Frostbite was a little known god; that is, there may be a couple clerics in say a big city, but really nothing major. Actually, in retrospect, that seems kinda dumb. Oh yeah, Delfedd, does Frostbite breaking free cost AP?
CombatMedic 09-08-07, 09:10 AM	Sage has done enough to justify gaining Law. I'll add it now. Magic might require just a bit more. He's getting close. Usurping full control of the leylines would do it, as would the establishment of some kind of grand school and library of magic- a cross planar academy. Stuff like that.
Delfedd 09-08-07, 09:35 AM	Naw. It didn't cost AP to trap you.
d24478667 09-08-07, 11:23 AM	Well, I got the site up. Now I just need to update it to normal. Ewan, I'll be using your god list for it, if you don't mind. Okay, thanks Delfedd.
Zebppir 09-08-07, 12:16 PM	Also, I started my Savage tide today. It went really great. We're running the campaign in Creation, which is great. I didn't include all the deities, and I appologize for this in advance. I'm running the campaign from the southern hemisphere, so Frostbite... has little place. Since it's... temperate. I also resurrected some of the more powerful deities to add to the excitement of the game. Kakavindus, Amon, and others show up that where missing for some time. Because of this, I altered their stories a little. Amon The God of Valor, Amon is Lawful Good. He is called the Blood of Magic, The God-Emperor and the Old Soldier. Amon Promotes family values and is the creator of Death. Amon is the lord of many races in the world, and was one of the early deities. Recently, Amon and Morintu's minds became tangled in a battle. Morintu sapped Amon's power and granted it to himself, while Amon lies dying in his palace on his home plane. The dwarven incarnation of the Myth has Asargoth, their patron deity, battle the great dragon. The Asargoth lost the great battle and has retired to his hall. His Favored weapon is the Spear of Fate. Domains are Law, Fate, Good, Knowledge, Death, and Dwarf. His symbol is the White Staff. Arteheyn is the goddess of Nature and is Neutral. She is known as the River Maiden in the various tongues of Creation. Arteheyn is the creator of many things Good, Evil, and neither, and is partially responsible for the survival of civilization during the Long Dark. While not the creator, she is the defacto mistress of the TywDyw, a Diefic organization. She wields the Flail of Sundering, a weapon created from the Chains of Morintu after his first death. Her domains are Water, Animals, Community, Weather, Plants and Spider. Her symbol is a silver scaled fish, a green snake, or a stylized icon depicting a blue river against a green background. Morintu is the God of Earth, Wind, and storms and is Lawful Evil. He is the husband of Arteheyn and father of Glykllivar. He is known by many names, most prominently in the Remnants of the Empire as Skylord, Earthmaster, and The Thousand Chains. He created the Deific organization known as Enfermia. Morintu has also become Death after weakening Amon. After each beings death Morintu appears to welcome them to their next life. He sparked the original evil by stealing the leylines from Lexius. His worship extends over much of “civilized” creation. His Domains are Air, Storm, Law, Evil, Dragons, Undeath, Fury, Death, and most recently, Earth, which he stole from his brother, Kur-ah. His symbol is five chains all linked together on a blue field. Kakavindus Is the god of Evil, and is Neutral Evil. He is known by many names to mortals, including the False dragon. He was born from the original evil, the theft of the Leylines by Morintu. He concealed his darkness for a long time, until Morintu fell from grace. He is the patron of the Yugoloths, master of the worgs, as well as things that live in dark places. He is a member of the TywDyw, and His domains are Evil, Domination, Darkness and Destruction. His favored weapon is “Corrupting edge,” a poisoned Falchion. His symbol is a black four pointed star. Lexius the Blue is the god of Magic, the Moon and freedom and appears to be Neutral Good, although some scholars and deities find this in question, as evil clerics may still cast his spells. Some have theorized that his Freedom extends to the alignment of his worshipers. He is the lord of the more chaotic Ezera, who where scattered by their war with the Dragons. Lexius's clerics preach freedom at any cost, some churches espousing the tennants of freedom at the cost of repression of others. Lexius recently lost his memory in a duel with the Sage and the Artifact Lords, and has recently begun to reform. His domains are Magic, Moon, Liberation, Madness, Good or Evil. His weapon is the Maul of unstoppable might. His symbol is an upside down moon as the head of a maul. Kyrinian is the lord of Summer and is Chaotic Neutral. He is known as the Dreamlord, and the rider of the golden chariot. He has taken to living in his palace in the Dreamrealms during the night and flying the sun's chariot across the sky during the day. He is the lord of the Lycanthropes, and the patron of orcs. He was, at one point, a member of Enfermia. He directs the war against the artifact lords, sending his limitless nightmares against the devils. His domains are Summer, Dream, Sun, moon, orc, and Chaos. His favored weapon is the sword of Summers strike. Glykllivar is the Queen of the oceans and is Chaotic good. She is known as the Sailor and the Empress of the deep. She is the daughter of Arteheyn and Morintu, and is described as vengeful with a very long memory. She is Married to Kyrinian, and is certainly the more powerful of the pair. She is perhaps the most powerful force opposing the forces of Morintu and Enfermia in the world. Her domains are Ocean, Travel, Protection, chaos, and Good. Her Symbol is a blank flag. Ooulzoth is the Lord of the Void and is Chaotic Evil. He is known as He-Who-Hungers, the Faceless lord, and the Lord of Nothing. He was born during a duel between Amon and Morintu, during which Morintu's heart was stabbed out. Morintu's heart animated and became the dark Ooulzoth. Ooulzoth began scouring the void for races to add to his armies, and has assembled thousands of races from thousands of Shardworlds. His domains are Hunger, Slime, Destruction, Chaos and Evil. His symbol is a worm with tentacles. His favored weapon is Artifact Symbiotes. Britmara is the Lady of hope and is Neutral good. She is known as the shieldmaiden, Mistress Courage. Her origins are filled with mystery, since many pages concerning her origins where ripped out of the Book. What is known is that an ancient god Named Darrius went through a great mental change, and several pages later Britmara, a weaker deity, is mentioned with no sign of Darrius. She is an ally of Ooulzoth, and some have wondered if they where lovers, while others discount this entirely. Her domains are Courage, Good, and Healing. Her favored weapon is the Merciful Stroke. Sage is the Lord of Illusion and is Lawful Neutral. Little is known of his origin, save that it is mechanical in nature and his creators hail from one of the Shardworlds. He appears to be a translucient man with a metalic skelleton, although he can take any shape he pleases. His domains include Illusion, Knowledge, and Law. His symbol is a metal anulis The Artifact Lords The artifact lords where created when Morintu made the Regalia. Their link to these items is fuzzy, but it is known that Morintu is their master. There are currently five Artifact lords. Michael has a humanoid form of blackness, and is linked to the staff. He is the most powerful of the artifact lords. Iladia is almost certainly a Plainsrunner, as there are records of a queen among them. She is linked to the crown. Sargoz was a lizardfolk king who is linked to the Armor. He has an extra pair of arms to better function in combat. Gorthag was a black dragon as a mortal, but now is much more. He is linked to the Cape. Solitha is a cursed ezera, relieved of his curse by the Sword. Their symbol is the arrayed artifacts. Their domains are Trickery, corruption, war, Law, and evil. Wow!sounds fun even if the current overgoddess and Nequelleden isn't in it.
Delfedd 09-08-07, 03:12 PM	Well, the overgoddess is... well, an overgoddess. People can't worship her. Nequellden hasn't distinguished herself yet. This is the basic deity list. I didn't just delete people who aren't on it. It just means that I didn't want to overload my players with deities.
d24478667 09-08-07, 03:30 PM	Yeah... Standard is, what, 12 gods? We have over thirty, since Delfedd said he resurrected some. He's saying that those are the gods well known in the area in which the campaign takes place, and, if I am correct, that has no actual impact on our game. Delfedd, did the link work? Because it did when I tested on a different computer, but I just want to make sure. The site may or may not happen; I'm having issues. Again. (As of 10:05 EST, or thereabouts.)
alchemyprime 09-08-07, 04:12 PM	Tanner also made the Life Masters. And get ready, I'm making the Kreen races, the khepri and the vodyanoi today. And he had the Life domain, last I checked... unless it got stolen...
Camu 09-08-07, 05:36 PM	for Ooulzoth's stats, in the creatures created section, there should also be Ixitxachitl and Avolakias.
Illeveun Bloodblaze 09-09-07, 12:24 AM	Actually, I believe what sage did would warrant getting the Magic domain. Just my two cents. Also, Lexius now has three levels in psion and two levels in cerebremancer, and his previous actions may have put psionics in his portfolio or not.
Return of the Flumph 09-09-07, 12:32 AM	It's okay. I'll put more work into getting the domain. BTW, if you want Lexius to escape (which you probably do), we can probably work something dramatic out.
d24478667 09-09-07, 01:45 AM	If anyone has objections to Frostbite making that set, you should actually post them here as opposed to the in character thread.
Return of the Flumph 09-09-07, 01:51 AM	Are there four pieces in the set, or five?
d24478667 09-09-07, 01:57 AM	Five; the fifth is Glacieso's Eye. Or you could say its the first, if you go chronologically... But yeah, I realize how that extra .5 would screw the system a little, so I think it should be rounded down, for an effective DvR of 24.
CombatMedic 09-09-07, 07:35 PM	Sage is very close to gaining Magic as a domain. Lexius is also very close to adding psionics to his portfolio. Just a bit more from each of them...
CombatMedic 09-09-07, 11:08 PM	Gleaners are OGL material created by Keith Baker. http://www.giantitp.com/articles/gk7uKJeF296jRcx1NJw.html. They are the NPC counterpart to druids or rangers. Minor spellcasters with spells mainly concerned with animals and plants. Very useful to a rural community, but much weaker than a druid or cleric. they are comparable to an adept in terms of power. Note that they don't receive spells directly from a divine patron[ at least in my LoC interpretation of the class]. That doesn't stop them from acting as clergy of Arteheyn in many small communites.
alchemyprime 09-10-07, 12:39 AM	Right, forgot to tell you all, but Tanner lives in Living Twilight now, in his crystal tower south of the central spire. The life pool moved too... And what's this .5 DvR an artifact bit? Because then 42 and the Life Pool shoul make Tanner DvR 7. I won't count the tomes, since d# and I share those...
Delfedd 09-10-07, 12:50 AM	Only combat weapons allow you to increase your Effective Divine rank. You need to stat out your items to be allowed to do it.
Destrieth 09-10-07, 03:03 PM	Only gripe I have with Alusia's statblock is her DvR is 34.
d24478667 09-10-07, 06:51 PM	I did stat them out... Or were you speaking to Alchemyprime?
Kirtanus_Albacron 09-11-07, 06:58 PM	Okay, here is Selevern's Armor, called the Onyx Armor, or the Domains of Selevern. Helm of Elvensight: The Helm is gleaming onyx, shaped like an eagle, with a red tint to it. +2 Wis, Clairaudience/Clairvoyance 4/day 2 pieces: +3 Wis, True Seeing 3/day, Low-light vision. 3 pieces: Immune to magical sleep effects, Find the Path 3/day 4 pieces: +4 Wis, Scrying, Greater 3/day, +6 Spot 5 pieces: Prying Eyes, Greater 4/day Full Set: +5 Wisdom, Foresight 3/day, The wielder of the helm cannot be blinded. Breastplate of Courage: The Breastplate is of a darker onyx than the rest of the Armor, with the symbol of Selevern eteched on it, +2 Cha, Remove Fear 4/day 2 pieces: +3 Cha, Heroism, Greater, 3/day 3 pieces: +4 bonus to Will save to resist fear effects, Break Enchantment 3/day 4 pieces: +4 Cha, Righteous Might 4/day 5 pieces: Holy Word 3/day, +6 bonus to Will save to resist fear effects Full Set: +5 Cha, Immunity to fear effects, +6 bonus to Will Save to resist fear effects to all allies within 30 ft. Greaves of Incarnum Boosting: The greaves are eteched with the Eyes of Selevern, meaning two flaming balls of Incarnum, one on each leg. +2 Con, Ability to use spells with the Incarnum descriptor, Channel the Mishtai 3/day 2 pieces: +3 Con, Divest Essentia 3/day 3 pieces: +3 to Essentia Pool, Rend Essentia 3/day, Hand, Crown, and Feet chakras are opened 4 pieces: +4 Con, Incarnum Weapon 3/day, wielder gains 2 soulmelds, and soulmelds can be bound over the Onyx Armor 5 pieces: Brow, Arms, and Shoulder chakra are opened, +7 Essentia Pool, Incarnum Apotheosis 3/day Full Set: +5 Con, Throat and Waist Chakras are opened, Soulmeld Disjunction 3/day Boots of Freedom: On the boots are pictures are flying creatures, the one that dominates the boots being the Incarnum dragon. +2 Dex, Expeditious Retreat 3/day, Feather Fall 3/day 2 pieces: +3 Dex, Cat’s Grace 3/day, Spider Climb 3/day, Meld into Stone 3/day 3 pieces: +10 Base Speed, Freedom of Movement 4/day, Haste 4/day 4 pieces: +4 Dex, Wind Walk 3/day, Teleport, Greater 3/day 5 pieces: +20 Base Speed, Gate 3/day Full Set: +5 Dex, Time Stop 3/day, Etherealness 3/day, cannot be slowed Sword of Transformation: The Sword changes to three forms with the utterance of a command word. +2 Str, +2 Flaming longsword, +2 Frost falchion, +2 Shocking katana 2 pieces: +3 Str, Holy Sword 3/day 3 pieces: All Three weapons +3, Fire Shield 3/day, Ice Storm 3/day Lightning Bolt 3/day 4 pieces: +4 Str All Three weapons gain the Burst ability related to their element (Longsword gets Flaming Burst, etc.) and all swords gain the Holy ability 5 pieces: Meteor Swarm 3/day, Polar Ray 3/day, Chain lightning 3/day Full Set: +5 Str, All Three weapons +5, Longsword gets Vorpal, Falchion Vicious, Katana Wounding, Shield of Incarnum: The shield is a light purple, the color of incarnum, and on it is the picture of a leaf. Detect Incarnum at Will, Protection from Incarnum 3/day 2 pieces: Wall of Incarnum 3/day 3 pieces: Incarnum Radiance as 10th level Incarnate, Incarnum Vigor 3/day 4 pieces: Fast Healing 2/round, Soulbanned zone 3/day 5 pieces: Summon Midnight Construct 3/day Full Set: Immunity to effects that change Essentia, destroy soulmelds, closes chakras, Fast Healing 4/round
Delfedd 09-12-07, 12:35 AM	I'm not liking all these powerful artifacts just sitting around with us. Sure, we've statted them out, but then what? I can tell you guys are going to just hang on to them. Throw them out there in the mortal world. Perhaps if a mortal does not use the item for a year and a day once every twenty years, the artifact loses it's power.
Delfedd 09-12-07, 05:42 PM	Kirt... That's stupid. Selevern has a) no reason to rush off, b) no reason to find Morintu and Frostbite... I mean, they're not even dueling yet. For those reasons and more, I'm going to ignore your post. Also, D# asked to die.
Kirtanus_Albacron 09-12-07, 06:00 PM	I stated his reason in my post: To find Arteheyn. Even though in OOC D# asked to die, That still wouldn't stop Selevern IC from trying to help.
d24478667 09-12-07, 08:41 PM	I'm going to point this out, because Delfedd may miss it and it needs saying. Frostbite never met Selevern. Yes, never. The Wanderer said one sentence that concerned him. Even then, it was not said directly to Selevern. So where the hell does Selevern get the idea that Frostbite's going to accept help from someone he never met? He joined something his uncle made, and now his uncle's trying to kill him. By the way, I am proposing having Glacieso actually save Frostbite from one of Morintu's attacks so that Glacieso can kill him. Any objections?
Delfedd 09-12-07, 09:45 PM	None at all. Although that would put glasceo at less than good, you're certainly welcome to do it.
d24478667 09-12-07, 09:50 PM	... Are you kidding? Glacieso died because he went insane and did evil (well, not to Morintu's scale, but enough to degrade his soul sufficiently.) Falling is not an option, merely because he is already evil. Hell, it would be something like blocking one of Morintu's strikes, grabbing the sword, and using it to attack Frostbite.
Delfedd 09-12-07, 09:55 PM	I stated his reason in my post: To find Arteheyn. Even though in OOC D# asked to die, That still wouldn't stop Selevern IC from trying to help. That's just dumb "Oh, I'm going to get arteheyn. Lets go to where she isn't!!!!1eleventy!!!!peeppepants!!" Seriously, that's what you have clerics for.
Kirtanus_Albacron 09-12-07, 10:22 PM	How would Selevern know where Arteheyn was? He doesn't use wisps, or a herald, and prefers to do things himself. He doesn't even have an avatar. So he would go to the place where he thinks she will be. If not TyDw, then Refuge, etc. So Selevern will wait out the fight, and then act, if you prefer that. And, D#, Frostbite is good, and is now would probably be kill by Morintu. In Selevern's way of thinking, Frostbite is one more tool to use against Evil, but if Frostbite declines, then Selevern will stay out of it, at least until the fight is over.
Return of the Flumph 09-12-07, 10:40 PM	Selevern's reaction is indeed logical, when you consider his personality and history. However, since d# and delfedd both want this fight to go as they planned, I think it can easily be said that Selevern doesn't know that the fight is going on, and thus can't react to it. Note that Glykllivar, who is even more predisposed toward aiding Frostbite, is conveniently distracted with some unnamed task.
CombatMedic 09-12-07, 10:46 PM	Arteheyn is concerned and aware. She isn't usuually an interventionist, though. Frostbite has already rejected her aid, when she sought to free him from the prison plane. It's clear to her he wishes to fight Morintu on his own, else he would have invoked the Pact to ask her for aid. She'll observe from TyDw, only intervening if he requests her help. The joys of being True Neutral. ;)
Kirtanus_Albacron 09-12-07, 10:49 PM	Okay, Selevern will just be in Respite, still trying to save Lexius, again, :(
d24478667 09-12-07, 10:49 PM	See, the funny part is that his reasoning was that he didn't want a war to start. Seems to me like it just has. Of course, I am not telling people how to play their gods, or, if I am and unaware of it, not trying to, but simply restating Frostbite's reason and thus an excuse for Arteheyn to interfere. Glykllivar is a wholly different matter, as while he would accept her help, he doesn't expect it, due to recent events.
Kirtanus_Albacron 09-13-07, 09:59 PM	Woot Frostbite!:D Seriously D#, nice way of turning Frostbite into a total badass :D
d24478667 09-15-07, 08:28 PM	:bump:
CombatMedic 09-17-07, 03:00 PM	I have decided to follow up on the travels of the four teams of explorers sent out from Eruk of the Azers. These are large parties of human and half orc slaves that have been conditionally manumitted to explore, and are operating under a geas to return to Eruk after a year of traveling. Looking at the maps, it's easy to see where they'll go first. We can use this as an excuse to have more motal RP for everyone. If one of the teams heads through a region you have developed or seeded with people, just post what they find there. We can get a better picture of what the world looks like. The Azer lands aren't clearly marked on the map, but they should be somewhere between the New Empire and the Waste. They were formed when Kur Ah sent meteorites crashing into Creation during the war between Morintu and the gods of chaos.] Notes on the expeditions: the explorers are mostly humans and half orcs. No azer travel with them. Other races are possible, but not likely to be numerous. They are well equipped and well armed. They carry adepuate supplies and use donkeys as their primary beast of burden. Each team is organized along miitary lines, with a captain heading it up. Average size is about fifty or sixty members. Most are NPC classed indivuduals with useful skills, but no special powers. The captains and their helpers are a bit more powerful, being essentially small low level adventuring parties. Spellcasters are not numerous, so they may try and recruit more of them along the way.
alchemyprime 09-17-07, 09:38 PM	Well, since the Azer are desert dwellers, you could have a few cactacae, khepri and thri-kreen slaves mixed in. Kreen are good because they age quick, and are natural hunters. Khepri are natural clerics, especially of female deities (they follow Tanner, but mostly the Life and Trickery aspects). Cactacae... big guys with little need of water. What's not to like?
d24478667 09-17-07, 09:43 PM	Delfedd, once again I would like to point out that the vazalkyon sent an ambassador to the Impish tribe in search of an alliance, or at least a truce.
d24478667 09-20-07, 09:19 PM	Two things: 1. :bump: 2. Anyone know what's up with Delfedd? He hasn't been on since Monday.
d24478667 09-22-07, 10:53 PM	Sigh. :bump: We got all we need for a big event except for one thing... Morintu.
Zebppir 09-22-07, 11:49 PM	can someone help me I'm kinda outta ideas and have been very busy so Help!
d24478667 09-22-07, 11:58 PM	Okay, there's a real easy one right here... Touching the wisps brings you to the area where Frostbite and Morintu were and probably will be then. She could do something there.
Delfedd 09-23-07, 02:31 PM	Appologies to everyone. My forums (not just the account, the forums) Have been down all week on my end. I checked things out today and they're back up. Sorry. I'm back now, but if I ever vanish for long stretches of time, don't be worried. The savage tide is going well. I'm running it as if the war between the plateau and whatnot panned out much greater. The plainsrunners will probably end up being the bad pirates in this campaign, although not quite in the respect that they're written. they will likely be much more of a navy than pirates. If you recall, the plainsrunners have Always had an excellent navy.
Zebppir 09-24-07, 12:00 AM	on the second thread fristbite is wounded does this give me the chance I need??? anyway thanks I got my ideads back though I won't post for awhile I want to see how this unfolds
Delfedd 09-24-07, 12:02 AM	I suppose that'd make me your muse or something. Anyway. good luck on those ideas. Ever going to join Enfermia?
d24478667 09-24-07, 06:14 AM	She did much the same thing as Auranis did, as far as I can tell. She's joined, but hasn't been along to customize her plane, in other words. And Zebppir, if sNequelleden did do that, Morintu'd probably be mad at her, I think. But maybe not. I dunno, I'm not Delfedd.
Delfedd 09-24-07, 10:14 AM	OK. Here's the deal. For some reason, on weekdays I can't access the forums from my dorm. Weekends things are fine. This just means I'm not going to be online as often.
Camu 09-24-07, 11:49 AM	A question, did we change to a new divine month last thursday or not? Maybe a suggestion but since most of us are a little busy with the start of the new schoolyear, we might slow the passing of divine months to every 2 weeks, instead of every week. Just a thought.
Zebppir 09-24-07, 02:02 PM	has taint been created yet? and Nequelleden has only informally joined enfermia
Camu 09-24-07, 04:06 PM	I believe taint was made by Blight, as the nameless plane (governed by my demodand) is a tainted place
Delfedd 09-26-07, 10:40 AM	It's kind of formal or not at all.
Destrieth 09-26-07, 11:47 AM	I am just throwing it out there for the record that the come-one-come-all challenge is out there, but there won't be any fight because Alusia won't ever draw steel first. So if any of you are looking for a dramatic fight, feel free to PM me and we can set it up.
CombatMedic 09-26-07, 08:27 PM	It'll be interesting to see how this shakes out. Some good RP going on, that's for sure.
Return of the Flumph 09-26-07, 09:01 PM	Just so I don't get accused of godmodding when and if this comes into play: Glykllivar is watching this whole divine exchange from hiding, and will jump out if someone gives her a reason.
Zebppir 09-26-07, 11:07 PM	so is nequelleden just watching or maybe ....
Zebppir 09-26-07, 11:17 PM	in a way wouldn't attacking alusia be perfect right now? I mean she is at her weakest.So confused why will no one strike?
Destrieth 09-26-07, 11:46 PM	Uh, what are you talking about? Weakest? She has 10 AP and is DvR Forty-four without artifacts.
Destrieth 09-27-07, 12:29 AM	Not that that isn't a rousing speech, Illeveun, but the mandate of a supreme deity is pretty much no mortal worshippers or anything of the like... so I'm not sure that's the kind of charge you should be levying. I would change it to something that made more sense.
Illeveun Bloodblaze 09-27-07, 12:31 AM	The charge is hurting other's worshippers. You don't have to have worshippers to hurt other's worshippers. Oh, and would it be okay to everyone if I played a second god, which would be Madness?
Destrieth 09-27-07, 12:33 AM	That's the thing, though. They're everyone else's worshippers, not Alusia's. I'd be fine with any other charge, even if it was a paraphrased version of 'you're a doo-doo head'. It'd be like saying "I didn't feed my dog, and you didn't either, and he died, so I'm suing you." I mean, if you want to stick with it, that's fine, but it's nonsensical.
Illeveun Bloodblaze 09-27-07, 12:41 AM	If you look at the rules of TyDw, and I can't find them, but I believe it said something along the lines of don't hurt another's followers unless your clergy is at war with the other's clergy.
Destrieth 09-27-07, 12:43 AM	Yes... but... Alusia has never hurt anyone else's followers. If inaction was a good enough case for it, everyone would be at fault for not spending all their time helping everyone else's followers. You see why I have an issue with that specific charge?
Illeveun Bloodblaze 09-27-07, 12:51 AM	But the thing is, Alusia is the overdeity. She is supposed to be in charge. If she is the one being responsible, than it is ulitmatly her fault.
Destrieth 09-27-07, 12:54 AM	No, no it's not. My analogy still applies. Because you didn't feed your dog and he died, that does not somehow make anyone else responsible. Not me, not the police, not the president.
Illeveun Bloodblaze 09-27-07, 12:57 AM	I think really, it's all in the way you look at it. Anyways, I have to go to sleep.
Delfedd 09-27-07, 02:31 AM	No... basically you didn't feed your dog. Then you hit it with a stick. And then you told the dog, "See that big, defended fortress over there belonging to someone who is not the president? that's your doghouse. Go get it." Then, after the dog is literally on it's last legs (the two of them) you say, "OK dog. Here. Stick this bomb to your neck so you can blow them up." And then painted a bulls eye on the dogs head. And then you sued the president for killing your dog.
Illeveun Bloodblaze 09-27-07, 10:22 AM	No. A Ruler is responsible for their subjects' actions, or in this case inaction. It's more of I didn't feed my child, it died, I'm charging you for not forcing me to feed my child, because you claim that you are in charge of me, and thus responsible for my actions.
Delfedd 09-27-07, 11:15 AM	Wow that's dumb. I'm sure you're going to have fun in court. You know what happens to parents who don't feed their children, right? They lose the rights to their children. Then get thrown in prison.
Destrieth 09-27-07, 11:15 AM	... ... Dude. You just successfully killed your argument.
Illeveun Bloodblaze 09-27-07, 11:22 AM	Not in a monarchy. Plus, it's not just my children, it's everyone elses too.
Destrieth 09-27-07, 11:23 AM	Eh, whatever. I was giving you the chance to change it to something that held more water, but you're going to stick to your guns, I guess. Alusia will respond accordingly.
Delfedd 09-28-07, 10:00 PM	Selena felt some power go against her, something that compeled her to go someplace else. But it....failed. As it did do, the power that was domant within her went to full spark, and she became the Hand of Selevern, his liasion to the mortal world. Honestly, that's dumb. The only reason that I made Vaelisius an avatar is because people know who he is, and because I had established beforehand that I was going to create something using the mask. The only way that a mortal can ascend to godhood is through another agency. Picking up some item or tapping into the right leyline. I'm pretty sure no one know who Selena is. This is the part where we were supposed to communicate so that I don't think things are bull. After all, you are killing off a pretty big investment. Also, I had some pretty cool plots worked out for Selena. And witch hammer is a great name.
Return of the Flumph 09-28-07, 10:39 PM	Can I have everyone's attention, please? STOP TURNING PEOPLE INTO AVATARS!!!!! Seriously, its fine if one person does it, but with Selena and now Fael it is getting really redundant. Can't you be a little more creative?
d24478667 09-28-07, 10:50 PM	Well, actually I was going to have him become an avatar in a different way, but see, that is exactly why I asked for objections. Then again, no matter how I did it, the outcome would be the same, so I guess my argument doesn't exactly matter.
Illeveun Bloodblaze 09-29-07, 12:35 AM	So..., is it okay to everyone if I play a second god?
Return of the Flumph 09-29-07, 10:28 AM	I'm fine with it.
d24478667 09-29-07, 11:41 AM	As far as I'm concerned, you're good to go.
Delfedd 09-29-07, 07:19 PM	So are you going to change the whole "Everyone is turning into an avatar" thing?
d24478667 09-29-07, 07:22 PM	Well, Fael won't. Beyond that, it's not in my control...
alchemyprime 09-30-07, 10:08 AM	Races made by Tanner: Khepri, vodyanoi, thri-kreen, xixtchtli-kreen, life masters, magebred animals, cactacae, changelings, grindylow. I feel like i'm forgeting one... Also, Favoured Weapon should now read Favoured Weapon: 42 (Whip) or natural weapon Thank you!
Delfedd 09-30-07, 10:39 AM	You've really got to start statting those things out. Half of them are just nothing to us statwise.
alchemyprime 09-30-07, 10:43 AM	Most of them were from Dragon #352, IIRC. Changelings are in MM3 and Eberron. Magebred Animals are in Eberron. Thri-Kreen are in the XPH. I did the sub-race thing for the xixchtlti-kreen. I did stat out the Life Masters, or at least the template. Fine, I'll give you the gist of the cactacae. +4 Str, -4 Dex, +2 Con +1 Natural Armor deals 1d6 on a grapple instead of 1d4 Powerful build Plant type Is effected by mind affecting abilities. Can use chakri, rivebows and some polearm weapon as martials instead of exotic Favored Class Fighter LA +2 Kay?
CombatMedic 09-30-07, 12:53 PM	I'll update the deity list soon.
d24478667 09-30-07, 12:56 PM	How is Arteheyn following Tanner and Frostbite? They left the Crystal Tower and entered TyDyw...
CombatMedic 09-30-07, 02:06 PM	Misunderstood- will edit post accordingly.
CombatMedic 10-01-07, 11:32 AM	Okay, I updated the gods list on page 104. Tanner should be pretty much correct. Anyone else need updates? It might be time to close this OOC thread and start a new one. I could then post the game rules and gods list on the first page. Delfedd had suggested as much, some weeks ago. Anyone else think that's a good idea. Also, what month is it? Five of year three?
Camu 10-01-07, 01:11 PM	sounds good to me, but keep a link to this one, for easy access if we need to look something up Ooulzoth is a DvR 20 god now Creatures created should also contain Ixitxachitl & Avolakia's
Destrieth 10-01-07, 01:41 PM	Alusia is DvR 44, otherwise it looks A-Ok to me. And yeah, maybe a new OOC thread is in order.
CombatMedic 10-01-07, 02:52 PM	I've stared a new OOC thread. My first post is an updated list of the gods. We can all use that thread from now on, if no one objects. It will be a lot easier to keep things up to date if the very first post is the master list. Is everyone cool with moving the OOC stuff to the new post?
Destrieth 10-01-07, 03:19 PM	Yes, if you'd link it :P
CombatMedic 10-01-07, 03:54 PM	http://forums.gleemax.com/showthread.php?t=932500