Need help with city populations [Archive] - Wizards Community

Need help with city populations [Archive] - Wizards Community

Post/Author/DateTime Post
tommy2k
12-23-07, 03:09 PM I have looked in both the DMG and cityscape and not found what I'm looking for (if you know where it is please refrence a page number).

Basiclly what I'm looking for is population range by city type, or something like this:

Small City = 1,000 - 10,000 residents, Large City = 11,000 - 50,000 residents, Metropolis = 50,000+ residents.

Thank all of you in advance for any and all advice you may offer.
echelon_house
12-23-07, 05:12 PM I guess to a certain extent it depends on the social level of the campaign. In the early middle ages a metropolis was probably no more than a few thousand people, but today we would call that a neighborhood, and a true metropolis like New York City has several million people.
Evil DM Mk3
12-23-07, 06:33 PM DAMN! I can see the page clearly in my mind, it is in the DMG. It is right next to the levels of NPCs in them, I think it is near the tables for random monsters. My DMG is in Plymouth and I am home for the holidays.
Heros_Backpack
12-23-07, 07:05 PM It's the DMG, p137, bottom left corner and covers all types from Thorp to Metropolis.
tommy2k
12-24-07, 02:48 AM Thanks so much for the help guys.

Looking back I really can't figure out how I missed that. lol
yellowdingo
12-24-07, 08:49 AM Thanks so much for the help guys.

Looking back I really can't figure out how I missed that. lol

THE DMG MISSES TWO:

Small Farm Population (1-12)
Large Farm Population (13-19)
tommy2k
12-24-07, 01:45 PM Thank you for the added info yellowdingo, but it won't really be of any use to me.

You see, the map of my world is rather small by comparison to say the map of Fearun (an oversight on my part at the beginning) so only cities of a certain population appear on the map. This leaves plenty of opportunity for creative admins to step into the world and base games in smaller locations that may not appear on the map.
yellowdingo
12-25-07, 12:06 AM Just remember though: Every citizen of a community requires 25 acres of forest for firewood (1/2 acre per year, 50 year regrowth cycle). - 640 acres per square mile.
Production harvest: 17 acres per year per wood cutter

example:

Pembury (900)

This large village is situated in the heart of a forest. As a consequence it has put considerable stress on the environment.
FIREWOOD & DEFORESTATION
900/2=450 acres of forest timber per year
450/17=27 woodcutters

For Pembury, the forest will be cleared for firewood to a four mile radius - the reach of a village for fuel.

Post/Author/DateTime	Post
tommy2k 12-23-07, 03:09 PM	I have looked in both the DMG and cityscape and not found what I'm looking for (if you know where it is please refrence a page number). Basiclly what I'm looking for is population range by city type, or something like this: Small City = 1,000 - 10,000 residents, Large City = 11,000 - 50,000 residents, Metropolis = 50,000+ residents. Thank all of you in advance for any and all advice you may offer.
echelon_house 12-23-07, 05:12 PM	I guess to a certain extent it depends on the social level of the campaign. In the early middle ages a metropolis was probably no more than a few thousand people, but today we would call that a neighborhood, and a true metropolis like New York City has several million people.
Evil DM Mk3 12-23-07, 06:33 PM	DAMN! I can see the page clearly in my mind, it is in the DMG. It is right next to the levels of NPCs in them, I think it is near the tables for random monsters. My DMG is in Plymouth and I am home for the holidays.
Heros_Backpack 12-23-07, 07:05 PM	It's the DMG, p137, bottom left corner and covers all types from Thorp to Metropolis.
tommy2k 12-24-07, 02:48 AM	Thanks so much for the help guys. Looking back I really can't figure out how I missed that. lol
yellowdingo 12-24-07, 08:49 AM	Thanks so much for the help guys. Looking back I really can't figure out how I missed that. lol THE DMG MISSES TWO: Small Farm Population (1-12) Large Farm Population (13-19)
tommy2k 12-24-07, 01:45 PM	Thank you for the added info yellowdingo, but it won't really be of any use to me. You see, the map of my world is rather small by comparison to say the map of Fearun (an oversight on my part at the beginning) so only cities of a certain population appear on the map. This leaves plenty of opportunity for creative admins to step into the world and base games in smaller locations that may not appear on the map.
yellowdingo 12-25-07, 12:06 AM	Just remember though: Every citizen of a community requires 25 acres of forest for firewood (1/2 acre per year, 50 year regrowth cycle). - 640 acres per square mile. Production harvest: 17 acres per year per wood cutter example: Pembury (900) This large village is situated in the heart of a forest. As a consequence it has put considerable stress on the environment. FIREWOOD & DEFORESTATION 900/2=450 acres of forest timber per year 450/17=27 woodcutters For Pembury, the forest will be cleared for firewood to a four mile radius - the reach of a village for fuel.