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Izodor_Shadowcaster 11-04-06, 01:44 PM	I like the idea of incantations (http://www.d20srd.org/srd/variant/magic/incantations.htm) and would like to know if there is an online list of new ones. I would also love a spellcasting class that was based on incantations (rituals...). Does anyone have any idea if such a class already exist and if not want to help me create one? Thank You.
Milo HoBo 11-04-06, 07:28 PM	The closest you'll find would probably be the Binder, using Pact Magic, from Tome of Magic. That would be my best suggestion. They share a similar flavor, but different mechanics.
Ruslanchik 11-05-06, 01:46 AM	1st edition cleric and druid spell lists are filled with spells that take days or weeks to cast--basically rituals. Ideas for incantations and balancing could come from there. Also, real life incantations are centered around divination and healing--especially healing. I would suggest that a created class be able to perform ritual forms of existing divination and healing spells, possibly gaining them a level or two earlier to account for the extra effort necessary for performing the ritual. After thinking about it, this seems like an NPC class--not very much fun to play, really.
Izodor_Shadowcaster 11-05-06, 03:34 AM	:) Alright, I know about the binder (I have ToM) and although it is a great class I do think it is not exactly what I would want from the "ritualist" class. So lets make one! Ritualist The ritualist or shaman is a special type of spellcaster who uses rituals to cast more powerful spells than other spellcasters of his or her level. I was thinking of mixing in some Epic Spelcasting mechanics. First develop a ritual, maybe without a cost, and than cast it. Both will take some skill checks to succeed. O.k. You have 9 levels of rituals (0-level spells are not included), HD: d4 Skillpoints: 2+int or 4 times this number at first level Class skills:Concentration (Con), Craft (Int), Decipher Script (Int), Knowledge (all skills, taken individually) (Int), Profession (Wis), Perform (Cha) and Spellcraft (Int). Level B.a.B. Will Other saves Max Ritual level Special 1st +0 +2 +0 1 Ritual 2nd +1 +3 +0 1 3rd +1 +3 +1 2 4th +2 +4 +1 2 5th +2 +4 +1 3 6th +3 +5 +2 3 7th +3 +5 +2 4 8th +4 +6 +2 4 9th +4 +6 +3 5 10th +5 +7 +3 5 11th +5 +7 +3 6 12th +6/+1 +8 +4 6 13th +6/+1 +8 +4 7 14th +7/+2 +9 +4 7 15th +7/+2 +9 +5 8 16th +8/+3 +10 +5 8 17th +8/+3 +10 +5 9 18th +9/+4 +11 +6 9 19th +9/+4 +11 +6 9 20th +10/+5 +12 +6 9 Weapon and Armor proficiency SImple weapons, no armor and no shields Rituals You know how to learn, prepare and cast rituals. Each day you can cast a number of rituals. Number of Rituals you can cast each day 1st 3 2nd 3 3rd 3 4th 4 5th 4 6th 4 7th 5 8th 5 9th 5 10th 6 11th 6 12th 6 13th 7 14th 7 15th 7 16th 8 17th 8 18th 8 19th 9 20th 9 Preparing a ritual takes time (around half an hour per ritual per level). Each ritual has components you need to use during preparation. These components can be found in a spell component pouch. During preparation you need to succeed on some skill checks. The kind of skills depends on the ritual. When you failed the skill check, you have failed to prepare it correctly and you can try so again, but you will have to start all over with preparing that Ritual. After you have prepared the ritual you can cast the ritual any time you want to in 24 hours. Casting the spell only takes you to succeed on a Spellcraft check. The DC for both checks are in the Rituals description. If you fail, you can try again next round. ------------------ Rituals: Speak with the Wordless Level: 1 Preparation checks: 2 Knowledge (Nature) DC 12 Preparation: Meditating with the twig and the animal fur in each hand. The rock on your head. Material Component: A rock, a twig and some animal fur Casting DC: 15 For a duration of 1 minute per level you are able to communicate with plants and animals as if you used the spells Speak with Animals or Plants. As long as you have prepared this ritual and haven't cast it yet you gain Wild Empathy, just like the Druid's ability of the same name. Gnome's book of tricks: Fast Run Level: 1 Preparation checks: 1 Perform (dance) DC 12 Preparation: A very complicated dance. Material Component: A small broken gnome hooked hammer. Casting DC: 16 For 1 hour per level your base land speed increase by 10 feet. As long as you have this spell prepared you gain the Run feat. Shapechange Level: 1 Preparation checks: 1 Knowledge (Local) DC 12 Preparation: Meditating inside a magical pentagon Material Component: A werewolf tooth Casting DC: 16 Identical to Disguise Self. As long as you have prepared this spell you gain a +2 bonus on Bluff and Disguise checks. Gnome's book of tricks: Obscuring Mist Level: 1 Preparation checks: 1 Knowledge (Arcana) DC 12 Preparation: Saying magical words Material Component: Dust Casting DC: 16 Same as Obscuring Mist. Grants you Blind-Fight Feat while you've got this spell prepared. Heart of Ice Level: 1 Preparation checks: 1 Knowledge (the planes) DC 12 Preparation: Dancing around a magic circle and singing Material Component: A vial of water. Casting DC: --None, only a ranged touch attack A ray of freezing air and ice projects from your pointing finger. You must succeed on a ranged touch attack with the ray to deal damage to a target. The ray deals 1d4 points of cold damage As long as you have prepared this ritual and haven't cast it yet you have an intense cold running through your veins. This doesn't harm you, but makes your unarmed attacks, attack with a natural weapon and your melee attacks with mettalic weapons deal 1 point of cold damage in addition to their normal damage. This disappears when the spell is cast. This special ability is dispeled if combined with the special ability of Fire of the Abyss. Fire of the Abyss Level: 2 Preparation checks: 1 Knowledge (Arcana) DC 15 Preparation: Dancing around a magic circle and singing Material Component: A tiny ball of bat guano and sulfur. Casting DC: 20 When you cast this spell you release a great burst of fire that deals 1d8 points of fire damage per two caster levels (maximum 5d6). This blast of flames has a radius of 10 feet, centered on you. As long as you have prepared this ritual and haven't cast it yet you have an intense heat running through your veins. This doesn't harm you , but makes your unarmed attacks, attack with a natural weapon and your melee attacks with mettalic weapons deal 1 point of fire damage in addition to their normal damage. This disappears when the spell is cast.T his special ability is dispeled if combined with the special ability of Heart of Ice. --------------- O.k. now I want to know if you like the basics, if it is balanced this far and I need help to create enough Rituals. Thank You
Izodor_Shadowcaster 11-05-06, 08:10 AM	o.k. I am going to repost my class as a new thread. Thanks all for your help...