20-level Blackguard class? [Archive] - Wizards Community

20-level Blackguard class? [Archive] - Wizards Community

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Romulus LoneWolf
12-13-04, 08:54 AM Am I alone in thinking that the Blackguard, instead of being a Prestige Class, should be a Full Core Class built using the Paladin as a base? It would certainly make the whole "Fall from Grace" thing work more quickly: just trade in your Paladin levels for Blackguard levels.
Happosai
12-13-04, 09:00 AM No, you're not alone. Anyway, there are some prestigeclasses in Complete Divine that might be used as the missing 9 levels for a 20lv Blackguard, the Warpriest e.g. is a good candidate.
Ancient Wyrm
12-13-04, 02:50 PM There are three variant paladins in Unearthed Arcana, two of which are basically what you're looking for: the LE paladin of tyranny and the CE paladin of slaughter. Their lay on hands ability inflicts wounds, and I think they have the aura of despair instead of aura of courage, but what else is different escapes me. Anyone have their UA copies handy?
Franco Un-American
12-14-04, 12:56 AM The UA variant paladins really aren't that great. A much better alternative is in Dragon #312. It has LE, NE, and CE paladin variants (The NG, CG, LN, N, and CN versons are in #310). They have semi-unique special abilities and in the end are more flavourful. The magazines are cheaper two. (only $20 if you get both.)

Post/Author/DateTime	Post
Romulus LoneWolf 12-13-04, 08:54 AM	Am I alone in thinking that the Blackguard, instead of being a Prestige Class, should be a Full Core Class built using the Paladin as a base? It would certainly make the whole "Fall from Grace" thing work more quickly: just trade in your Paladin levels for Blackguard levels.
Happosai 12-13-04, 09:00 AM	No, you're not alone. Anyway, there are some prestigeclasses in Complete Divine that might be used as the missing 9 levels for a 20lv Blackguard, the Warpriest e.g. is a good candidate.
Ancient Wyrm 12-13-04, 02:50 PM	There are three variant paladins in Unearthed Arcana, two of which are basically what you're looking for: the LE paladin of tyranny and the CE paladin of slaughter. Their lay on hands ability inflicts wounds, and I think they have the aura of despair instead of aura of courage, but what else is different escapes me. Anyone have their UA copies handy?
Franco Un-American 12-14-04, 12:56 AM	The UA variant paladins really aren't that great. A much better alternative is in Dragon #312. It has LE, NE, and CE paladin variants (The NG, CG, LN, N, and CN versons are in #310). They have semi-unique special abilities and in the end are more flavourful. The magazines are cheaper two. (only $20 if you get both.)