3.5 Base Classes Reworked [Archive] - Wizards Community

3.5 Base Classes Reworked [Archive] - Wizards Community

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Necroblivion
07-08-07, 09:10 PM I have recently been working on rebuilding the base classes of 3.5 D&D for my campaign setting. I found that the older classes didn't stack up in comparison to the newly released classes and their was a great disparity between classes like the fighter, and the monk.

Using the d20 Character Creation Engine, I put everything to point totals and reworked all the classes to a much closer match. Here's a taste.

The Priest
http://www.mediafire.com/?bdrdypmqyh4

The Armsman
http://www.mediafire.com/?8sncwxkmjtq

Let me know what you think, I have many more on my page, plus huge changes to magic and much more.
Necroblivion
07-09-07, 08:11 PM The Assassin Base Class http://www.mediafire.com/?8jfs0ej5ddd

The Arcanist Base Class http://www.mediafire.com/?1jmnemnvy3g

The Barbarian Base Class http://www.mediafire.com/?2swt0yxmwmc

The Druid Base Class http://www.mediafire.com/?cpduzty0lbz

I use a lot of variant rules as you may notice. For instance, we use Max HD + HD roll at first level, and minimum half HD each level thereafter. We also use defense and armor as a damage reduction die. But you needn't use that, just check out the classes.

Comments/Suggestions?
Crashy75
07-09-07, 09:04 PM Hey Necro! I'd post the classes on the boards directly rather than have people download them. I think most people are leery of doing such things. I'll help you with the formatting if you'd like.
Necroblivion
07-09-07, 09:27 PM Yeah bud, if you want to tackle that, feel free.
fatal error
07-10-07, 12:49 AM What's this d20 Character Creation Engine? My Google-fu fails me.

Anyway, I can make the level tables and post them in a bit, if that's the main formatting issue.

Edit: BAM

Level BAB Fort Ref Will SPs Spell Def Rep Special
1st +0 +0 +0 +2 1 1st +0 +1 Use Divine Energy (Turn Undead),Scribe Scroll, Aura
2nd +1 +0 +0 +3 3 1st +1 +1
3rd +1 +1 +1 +3 9 2nd +1 +1
4th +2 +1 +1 +4 12 2nd +1 +2 +1 use of Use Divine Energy/day
5th +2 +1 +1 +4 22 3rd +2 +2 Bonus Divine Feat, Leadership
6th +3 +2 +2 +5 27 3rd +2 +2
7th +3 +2 +2 +5 42 4th +2 +3 Channel Divine Energy (BanishOutsider)
8th +4 +2 +2 +6 48 4th +3 +3 +1 use of Use Divine Energy/day
9th +4 +3 +3 +6 67 5th +3 +3
10th +5 +3 +3 +7 75 5th +3 +4 Bonus Domain
11th +5 +3 +3 +7 99 6th +4 +4
12th +6 +4 +4 +8 108 6th +4 +4 +1 use of Use Divine Energy/day
13th +6 +4 +4 +8 136 7th +4 +5
14th +7 +4 +4 +9 147 7th +5 +5
15th +7 +5 +5 +9 180 8th +5 +5 Bonus Divine Feat
16th +8 +5 +5 +10 192 8th +5 +6 +1 use of Use Divine Energy/day
17th +8 +5 +5 +10 229 9th +6 +6
18th +9 +6 +6 +11 243 9th +6 +6
19th +9 +6 +6 +11 256 9th +6 +7
20th +10 +6 +6 +12 270 9th +7 +7 Bonus Domain, +1 use of Use DivineEnergy/day

Level BAB Fort Ref Will Def Rep Special
1st +1 +2 +1 +0 +0 +0 Bonus feat
2nd +2 +3 +2 +0 +1 +0 Bonus feat
3rd +3 +3 +2 +1 +1 +0 Bonus feat
4th +4 +4 +2 +1 +2 +0 Bonus feat
5th +5 +4 +3 +1 +2 +1 Bonus feat
6th +6 +5 +3 +2 +3 +1 Bonus feat
7th +7 +5 +4 +2 +3 +1 Bonus feat
8th +8 +6 +4 +2 +4 +1 Bonus feat
9th +9 +6 +4 +3 +4 +2 Bonus feat
10th +10 +7 +5 +3 +5 +2 Bonus feat
11th +11 +7 +5 +3 +5 +2 Bonus feat
12th +12 +8 +6 +4 +6 +2 Bonus feat
13th +13 +8 +6 +4 +6 +3 Bonus feat
14th +14 +9 +6 +4 +7 +3 Bonus feat
15th +15 +9 +7 +5 +7 +3 Bonus feat
16th +16 +10 +7 +5 +8 +3 Bonus feat
17th +17 +10 +8 +5 +8 +4 Bonus feat
18th +18 +11 +8 +6 +9 +4 Bonus feat
19th +19 +11 +8 +6 +9 +4 Bonus feat
20th +20 +12 +9 +6 +10 +4 Bonus feat

Level BAB Fort Ref Will Def Rep Special
1st +0 +2 +2 +0 +1 +0 Poison Use, SneakAttack +1d6
2nd +1 +3 +3 +0 +2 +0 Camouflage, MoveLike the Wind
3rd +2 +3 +3 +1 +2 +0 Sneak Attack +2d6
4th +3 +4 +4 +1 +3 +0 Caught in the Act1/day
5th +3 +4 +4 +1 +3 +1 Sneak Attack +3d6
6th +4 +5 +5 +2 +3 +1 Death Attack
7th +5 +5 +5 +2 +4 +1 Deft Strike, SneakAttack +4d6
8th +6 +6 +6 +2 +4 +1 Bonus feat
9th +6 +6 +6 +3 +5 +2 Sneak Attack +5d6
10th +7 +7 +7 +3 +5 +2 Bonus feat
11th +8 +7 +7 +3 +5 +2 Sneak Attack +6d6
12th +9 +8 +8 +4 +6 +2 Vital Aim, Caught inthe Act 2/day
13th +9 +8 +8 +4 +6 +3 Sneak Attack +7d6
14th +10 +9 +9 +4 +7 +3 Hide in Plain Sight
15th +11 +9 +9 +5 +7 +3 Sneak Attack +8d6
16th +12 +10 +10 +5 +7 +3 Bonus feat
17th +12 +10 +10 +5 +8 +4 Sneak Attack +9d6
18th +13 +11 +11 +6 +8 +4 Bonus Feat, Caughtin the Act 3/day
19th +14 +11 +11 +6 +9 +4 Sneak Attack +10d6
20th +15 +12 +12 +6 +9 +4 Bonus feat

Level BAB Fort Ref Will SPs Spell Def Rep Special
1st +0 +0 +0 +2 1 1st +1 +0 Bonus Feat
2nd +1 +0 +0 +3 3 1st +2 +0
3rd +1 +1 +1 +3 9 2nd +2 +0 Spell Mastery
4th +2 +1 +1 +4 12 2nd +3 +0
5th +2 +1 +1 +4 22 3rd +3 +1 Bonus Feat
6th +3 +2 +2 +5 27 3rd +3 +1
7th +3 +2 +2 +5 42 4th +4 +1 Bonus Feat
8th +4 +2 +2 +6 48 4th +4 +1
9th +4 +3 +3 +6 67 5th +5 +2 Spell Mastery
10th +5 +3 +3 +7 75 5th +5 +2
11th +5 +3 +3 +7 99 6th +5 +2 Bonus Feat
12th +6 +4 +4 +8 108 6th +6 +2
13th +6 +4 +4 +8 136 7th +6 +3 Bonus Feat
14th +7 +4 +4 +9 147 7th +7 +3
15th +7 +5 +5 +9 180 8th +7 +3 Spell Mastery
16th +8 +5 +5 +10 192 8th +7 +3
17th +8 +5 +5 +10 229 9th +8 +4 Bonus Feat
18th +9 +6 +6 +11 243 9th +8 +4
19th +9 +6 +6 +11 256 9th +9 +4 Bonus Feat
20th +10 +6 +6 +12 270 9th +9 +4

Level BAB Fort Ref Will Def Rep Special
1st +1 +2 +0 +0 +1 +0 Bloodthirsty, Illiteracy,Rage 1/day
2nd +2 +3 +0 +0 +2 +0 Uncanny Dodge, BeserkSpeed
3rd +3 +3 +1 +1 +2 +0 Trap Sense +1, BonusFeat
4th +4 +4 +1 +1 +3 +0 Rage 2/day
5th +5 +4 +1 +1 +3 +1 Improved UncannyDodge
6th +6 +5 +2 +2 +3 +1 Trap Sense +2, FuriousStrike
7th +7 +5 +2 +2 +4 +1 Damage Reduction 1d2
8th +8 +6 +2 +2 +4 +1 Rage 3/day
9th +9 +6 +3 +3 +5 +2 Trap Sense +3, BonusFeat
10th +10 +7 +3 +3 +5 +2 Damage Reduction 1d3
11th +11 +7 +3 +3 +5 +2 Greater Rage
12th +12 +8 +4 +4 +6 +2 Rage 4/day, Trap Sense+4, Primal Howl
13th +13 +8 +4 +4 +6 +3 Damage Reduction 1d4
14th +14 +9 +4 +4 +7 +3 Indomitable Will
15th +15 +9 +5 +5 +7 +3 Trap Sense +5, BonusFeat
16th +16 +10 +5 +5 +7 +3 Damage Reduction1d4+1, Rage 5/day
17th +17 +10 +5 +5 +8 +4 Tireless Rage
18th +18 +11 +6 +6 +8 +4 Trap Sense +6, BonusFeat
19th +19 +11 +6 +6 +9 +4 Damage Reduction1d4+2
20th +20 +12 +6 +6 +9 +4 Mighty Rage, Rage6/day

Level BAB Fort Ref Will SPs Spell Def Rep Special
1st +0 +1 +0 +2 1 1st +0 +1 Natural Link, Use Divine Energy,Nature Sense, Wild Empathy
2nd +1 +2 +0 +3 3 1st +1 +1 Woodland Stride, Bonus Feat
3rd +1 +2 +1 +3 9 2nd +1 +1 Trackless Step
4th +2 +2 +1 +4 12 2nd +1 +2 Resist Nature’s Lure, +1 use of UseDivine Energy/day
5th +2 +3 +1 +4 22 3rd +2 +2 Summon Elemental Servant
6th +3 +3 +2 +5 27 3rd +2 +2
7th +3 +4 +2 +5 42 4th +2 +3 Bonus Feat
8th +4 +4 +2 +6 48 4th +3 +3 Wild Shape (Large), +1 use of UseDivine Energy/day
9th +4 +4 +3 +6 67 5th +3 +3 Venom Immunity
10th +5 +5 +3 +7 75 5th +3 +4
11th +5 +5 +3 +7 99 6th +4 +4 Wild Shape (Tiny)
12th +6 +6 +4 +8 108 6th +4 +4 Wild Shape (Plant), +1 use of UseDivine Energy/day
13th +6 +6 +4 +8 136 7th +4 +5 A Thousand Faces
14th +7 +6 +4 +9 147 7th +5 +5 Bonus Feat
15th +7 +7 +5 +9 180 8th +5 +5 Timeless Body, Wild Shape (Huge)
16th +8 +7 +5 +10 192 8th +5 +6 Wild Shape (Elemental), +1 use ofUse Divine Energy/day
17th +8 +8 +5 +10 229 9th +6 +6
18th +9 +8 +6 +11 243 9th +6 +6
19th +9 +8 +6 +11 256 9th +6 +7
20th +10 +9 +6 +12 270 9th +7 +7 Wild Shape (Huge Elemental), +1 useof Use Divine Energy/day

Edit 2:
I'm a little confused. These are classes for a Rifts D20 conversion? And if so, why on the D&D boards, and what would they have to do with how actual D&D classes compared to actual D&D classes?
Necroblivion
07-10-07, 08:18 AM Well, forget that they are intended for that setting. These are my D&D classes have been reworked to be balanced with the newer base classes that have been released. Also, some things have been changed in order to make more sense.

So yes, this is intended to be a D&D/Fantasy class set. I just happen to use some of the modern rules in my campaign setting.:D

As for the class creation engine. It is a great tool, not perfect, but a good pdf out on the net that allows you to put point totals to the classes and balance them against one another.

Thank you btw, for the efforts of making the tables. Much appreciated.

Post/Author/DateTime	Post
Necroblivion 07-08-07, 09:10 PM	I have recently been working on rebuilding the base classes of 3.5 D&D for my campaign setting. I found that the older classes didn't stack up in comparison to the newly released classes and their was a great disparity between classes like the fighter, and the monk. Using the d20 Character Creation Engine, I put everything to point totals and reworked all the classes to a much closer match. Here's a taste. The Priest http://www.mediafire.com/?bdrdypmqyh4 The Armsman http://www.mediafire.com/?8sncwxkmjtq Let me know what you think, I have many more on my page, plus huge changes to magic and much more.
Necroblivion 07-09-07, 08:11 PM	The Assassin Base Class http://www.mediafire.com/?8jfs0ej5ddd The Arcanist Base Class http://www.mediafire.com/?1jmnemnvy3g The Barbarian Base Class http://www.mediafire.com/?2swt0yxmwmc The Druid Base Class http://www.mediafire.com/?cpduzty0lbz I use a lot of variant rules as you may notice. For instance, we use Max HD + HD roll at first level, and minimum half HD each level thereafter. We also use defense and armor as a damage reduction die. But you needn't use that, just check out the classes. Comments/Suggestions?
Crashy75 07-09-07, 09:04 PM	Hey Necro! I'd post the classes on the boards directly rather than have people download them. I think most people are leery of doing such things. I'll help you with the formatting if you'd like.
Necroblivion 07-09-07, 09:27 PM	Yeah bud, if you want to tackle that, feel free.
fatal error 07-10-07, 12:49 AM	What's this d20 Character Creation Engine? My Google-fu fails me. Anyway, I can make the level tables and post them in a bit, if that's the main formatting issue. Edit: BAM Level BAB Fort Ref Will SPs Spell Def Rep Special 1st +0 +0 +0 +2 1 1st +0 +1 Use Divine Energy (Turn Undead),Scribe Scroll, Aura 2nd +1 +0 +0 +3 3 1st +1 +1 3rd +1 +1 +1 +3 9 2nd +1 +1 4th +2 +1 +1 +4 12 2nd +1 +2 +1 use of Use Divine Energy/day 5th +2 +1 +1 +4 22 3rd +2 +2 Bonus Divine Feat, Leadership 6th +3 +2 +2 +5 27 3rd +2 +2 7th +3 +2 +2 +5 42 4th +2 +3 Channel Divine Energy (BanishOutsider) 8th +4 +2 +2 +6 48 4th +3 +3 +1 use of Use Divine Energy/day 9th +4 +3 +3 +6 67 5th +3 +3 10th +5 +3 +3 +7 75 5th +3 +4 Bonus Domain 11th +5 +3 +3 +7 99 6th +4 +4 12th +6 +4 +4 +8 108 6th +4 +4 +1 use of Use Divine Energy/day 13th +6 +4 +4 +8 136 7th +4 +5 14th +7 +4 +4 +9 147 7th +5 +5 15th +7 +5 +5 +9 180 8th +5 +5 Bonus Divine Feat 16th +8 +5 +5 +10 192 8th +5 +6 +1 use of Use Divine Energy/day 17th +8 +5 +5 +10 229 9th +6 +6 18th +9 +6 +6 +11 243 9th +6 +6 19th +9 +6 +6 +11 256 9th +6 +7 20th +10 +6 +6 +12 270 9th +7 +7 Bonus Domain, +1 use of Use DivineEnergy/day Level BAB Fort Ref Will Def Rep Special 1st +1 +2 +1 +0 +0 +0 Bonus feat 2nd +2 +3 +2 +0 +1 +0 Bonus feat 3rd +3 +3 +2 +1 +1 +0 Bonus feat 4th +4 +4 +2 +1 +2 +0 Bonus feat 5th +5 +4 +3 +1 +2 +1 Bonus feat 6th +6 +5 +3 +2 +3 +1 Bonus feat 7th +7 +5 +4 +2 +3 +1 Bonus feat 8th +8 +6 +4 +2 +4 +1 Bonus feat 9th +9 +6 +4 +3 +4 +2 Bonus feat 10th +10 +7 +5 +3 +5 +2 Bonus feat 11th +11 +7 +5 +3 +5 +2 Bonus feat 12th +12 +8 +6 +4 +6 +2 Bonus feat 13th +13 +8 +6 +4 +6 +3 Bonus feat 14th +14 +9 +6 +4 +7 +3 Bonus feat 15th +15 +9 +7 +5 +7 +3 Bonus feat 16th +16 +10 +7 +5 +8 +3 Bonus feat 17th +17 +10 +8 +5 +8 +4 Bonus feat 18th +18 +11 +8 +6 +9 +4 Bonus feat 19th +19 +11 +8 +6 +9 +4 Bonus feat 20th +20 +12 +9 +6 +10 +4 Bonus feat Level BAB Fort Ref Will Def Rep Special 1st +0 +2 +2 +0 +1 +0 Poison Use, SneakAttack +1d6 2nd +1 +3 +3 +0 +2 +0 Camouflage, MoveLike the Wind 3rd +2 +3 +3 +1 +2 +0 Sneak Attack +2d6 4th +3 +4 +4 +1 +3 +0 Caught in the Act1/day 5th +3 +4 +4 +1 +3 +1 Sneak Attack +3d6 6th +4 +5 +5 +2 +3 +1 Death Attack 7th +5 +5 +5 +2 +4 +1 Deft Strike, SneakAttack +4d6 8th +6 +6 +6 +2 +4 +1 Bonus feat 9th +6 +6 +6 +3 +5 +2 Sneak Attack +5d6 10th +7 +7 +7 +3 +5 +2 Bonus feat 11th +8 +7 +7 +3 +5 +2 Sneak Attack +6d6 12th +9 +8 +8 +4 +6 +2 Vital Aim, Caught inthe Act 2/day 13th +9 +8 +8 +4 +6 +3 Sneak Attack +7d6 14th +10 +9 +9 +4 +7 +3 Hide in Plain Sight 15th +11 +9 +9 +5 +7 +3 Sneak Attack +8d6 16th +12 +10 +10 +5 +7 +3 Bonus feat 17th +12 +10 +10 +5 +8 +4 Sneak Attack +9d6 18th +13 +11 +11 +6 +8 +4 Bonus Feat, Caughtin the Act 3/day 19th +14 +11 +11 +6 +9 +4 Sneak Attack +10d6 20th +15 +12 +12 +6 +9 +4 Bonus feat Level BAB Fort Ref Will SPs Spell Def Rep Special 1st +0 +0 +0 +2 1 1st +1 +0 Bonus Feat 2nd +1 +0 +0 +3 3 1st +2 +0 3rd +1 +1 +1 +3 9 2nd +2 +0 Spell Mastery 4th +2 +1 +1 +4 12 2nd +3 +0 5th +2 +1 +1 +4 22 3rd +3 +1 Bonus Feat 6th +3 +2 +2 +5 27 3rd +3 +1 7th +3 +2 +2 +5 42 4th +4 +1 Bonus Feat 8th +4 +2 +2 +6 48 4th +4 +1 9th +4 +3 +3 +6 67 5th +5 +2 Spell Mastery 10th +5 +3 +3 +7 75 5th +5 +2 11th +5 +3 +3 +7 99 6th +5 +2 Bonus Feat 12th +6 +4 +4 +8 108 6th +6 +2 13th +6 +4 +4 +8 136 7th +6 +3 Bonus Feat 14th +7 +4 +4 +9 147 7th +7 +3 15th +7 +5 +5 +9 180 8th +7 +3 Spell Mastery 16th +8 +5 +5 +10 192 8th +7 +3 17th +8 +5 +5 +10 229 9th +8 +4 Bonus Feat 18th +9 +6 +6 +11 243 9th +8 +4 19th +9 +6 +6 +11 256 9th +9 +4 Bonus Feat 20th +10 +6 +6 +12 270 9th +9 +4 Level BAB Fort Ref Will Def Rep Special 1st +1 +2 +0 +0 +1 +0 Bloodthirsty, Illiteracy,Rage 1/day 2nd +2 +3 +0 +0 +2 +0 Uncanny Dodge, BeserkSpeed 3rd +3 +3 +1 +1 +2 +0 Trap Sense +1, BonusFeat 4th +4 +4 +1 +1 +3 +0 Rage 2/day 5th +5 +4 +1 +1 +3 +1 Improved UncannyDodge 6th +6 +5 +2 +2 +3 +1 Trap Sense +2, FuriousStrike 7th +7 +5 +2 +2 +4 +1 Damage Reduction 1d2 8th +8 +6 +2 +2 +4 +1 Rage 3/day 9th +9 +6 +3 +3 +5 +2 Trap Sense +3, BonusFeat 10th +10 +7 +3 +3 +5 +2 Damage Reduction 1d3 11th +11 +7 +3 +3 +5 +2 Greater Rage 12th +12 +8 +4 +4 +6 +2 Rage 4/day, Trap Sense+4, Primal Howl 13th +13 +8 +4 +4 +6 +3 Damage Reduction 1d4 14th +14 +9 +4 +4 +7 +3 Indomitable Will 15th +15 +9 +5 +5 +7 +3 Trap Sense +5, BonusFeat 16th +16 +10 +5 +5 +7 +3 Damage Reduction1d4+1, Rage 5/day 17th +17 +10 +5 +5 +8 +4 Tireless Rage 18th +18 +11 +6 +6 +8 +4 Trap Sense +6, BonusFeat 19th +19 +11 +6 +6 +9 +4 Damage Reduction1d4+2 20th +20 +12 +6 +6 +9 +4 Mighty Rage, Rage6/day Level BAB Fort Ref Will SPs Spell Def Rep Special 1st +0 +1 +0 +2 1 1st +0 +1 Natural Link, Use Divine Energy,Nature Sense, Wild Empathy 2nd +1 +2 +0 +3 3 1st +1 +1 Woodland Stride, Bonus Feat 3rd +1 +2 +1 +3 9 2nd +1 +1 Trackless Step 4th +2 +2 +1 +4 12 2nd +1 +2 Resist Nature’s Lure, +1 use of UseDivine Energy/day 5th +2 +3 +1 +4 22 3rd +2 +2 Summon Elemental Servant 6th +3 +3 +2 +5 27 3rd +2 +2 7th +3 +4 +2 +5 42 4th +2 +3 Bonus Feat 8th +4 +4 +2 +6 48 4th +3 +3 Wild Shape (Large), +1 use of UseDivine Energy/day 9th +4 +4 +3 +6 67 5th +3 +3 Venom Immunity 10th +5 +5 +3 +7 75 5th +3 +4 11th +5 +5 +3 +7 99 6th +4 +4 Wild Shape (Tiny) 12th +6 +6 +4 +8 108 6th +4 +4 Wild Shape (Plant), +1 use of UseDivine Energy/day 13th +6 +6 +4 +8 136 7th +4 +5 A Thousand Faces 14th +7 +6 +4 +9 147 7th +5 +5 Bonus Feat 15th +7 +7 +5 +9 180 8th +5 +5 Timeless Body, Wild Shape (Huge) 16th +8 +7 +5 +10 192 8th +5 +6 Wild Shape (Elemental), +1 use ofUse Divine Energy/day 17th +8 +8 +5 +10 229 9th +6 +6 18th +9 +8 +6 +11 243 9th +6 +6 19th +9 +8 +6 +11 256 9th +6 +7 20th +10 +9 +6 +12 270 9th +7 +7 Wild Shape (Huge Elemental), +1 useof Use Divine Energy/day Edit 2: I'm a little confused. These are classes for a Rifts D20 conversion? And if so, why on the D&D boards, and what would they have to do with how actual D&D classes compared to actual D&D classes?
Necroblivion 07-10-07, 08:18 AM	Well, forget that they are intended for that setting. These are my D&D classes have been reworked to be balanced with the newer base classes that have been released. Also, some things have been changed in order to make more sense. So yes, this is intended to be a D&D/Fantasy class set. I just happen to use some of the modern rules in my campaign setting.:D As for the class creation engine. It is a great tool, not perfect, but a good pdf out on the net that allows you to put point totals to the classes and balance them against one another. Thank you btw, for the efforts of making the tables. Much appreciated.