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a created new career class [Archive] - Wizards Community

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phasedoor
03-05-06, 03:13 PM From the DandD 3.0 DMG or DandD 3.5 DMG, there can be a created new career class by mixing and matching things from the standard 11 career classes. My question: can there be a career class that is totally generic by being a fighter/rogue/sorcerer-wizard/nondruid cleric who is able to use magic without an above-average wisdom, without an above-average charisma, and without an above-average intelligence?
Nephlite
03-05-06, 07:33 PM From the DandD 3.0 DMG or DandD 3.5 DMG, there can be a created new career class by mixing and matching things from the standard 11 career classes. My question: can there be a career class that is totally generic by being a fighter/rogue/sorcerer-wizard/nondruid cleric who is able to use magic without an above-average wisdom, without an above-average charisma, and without an above-average intelligence?
They all can cast with just 10 in a stat: you are just limited to cantrips. :D

Not sure what you mean...
Lotus Crane
03-05-06, 07:39 PM I think what the OP is trying to ask is: can you make a spellcasting class that doesn't require any high mental ability scores. And the answer is: no. Mechanically speaking, the power of spellcasting classes is supposed to be limited by their need to place their highest ability score in Int, Wis or Cha, as opposed to Str, Dex or Con. Imagine how much more powerful a wizard would be if her spellcasting was based on Dex instead of Int, or how much more powerful a cleric would be if his spellcasting was based on Con instead of Wis. Imagine how much more amusing a bard would be if his spellcasting (and bardic music) was based on Str instead of Cha (bardarian anybody?).
phasedoor
03-06-06, 01:58 PM I think what the OP is trying to ask is: can you make a spellcasting class that doesn't require any high mental ability scores. And the answer is: no. Mechanically speaking, the power of spellcasting classes is supposed to be limited by their need to place their highest ability score in Int, Wis or Cha, as opposed to Str, Dex or Con. Imagine how much more powerful a wizard would be if her spellcasting was based on Dex instead of Int, or how much more powerful a cleric would be if his spellcasting was based on Con instead of Wis. Imagine how much more amusing a bard would be if his spellcasting (and bardic music) was based on Str instead of Cha (bardarian anybody?).
Thank You, LotusCrane. What does it take for me to print something that every person can understand? Wait, don't answer that because I already write or type or print clearly and easy so that any person who has average intelligence can comprehend. Now, can a person of this group ask a Wizards Of The Coast DandD 3.5 or 3.0 game designer to find out if any new created career class or character class can be a mix of fighter/rogue/sorcerer-wizard/nondruid cleric without above-average intelligence, without above-average wisdom, and without above-average charisma? The only character class that I know of so far is the warlock in CompleteArcane that does not seem to require an above-average charisma, an above-average intelligence, or/and an above-average wisdom. The problem for me with that warlock is that it requires a chaotic alignment. The only other character class that I know of so far is the spellthief in CompleteAdventurer that can be strongly TN and that can cast a magic spell without having an above-average mental ability score. Is that correct for the spellthief? If yes, spellthief is my favorite adventurer class, my favorite career class, and/or my favorite character class.

Post/Author/DateTime	Post
phasedoor 03-05-06, 03:13 PM	From the DandD 3.0 DMG or DandD 3.5 DMG, there can be a created new career class by mixing and matching things from the standard 11 career classes. My question: can there be a career class that is totally generic by being a fighter/rogue/sorcerer-wizard/nondruid cleric who is able to use magic without an above-average wisdom, without an above-average charisma, and without an above-average intelligence?
Nephlite 03-05-06, 07:33 PM	From the DandD 3.0 DMG or DandD 3.5 DMG, there can be a created new career class by mixing and matching things from the standard 11 career classes. My question: can there be a career class that is totally generic by being a fighter/rogue/sorcerer-wizard/nondruid cleric who is able to use magic without an above-average wisdom, without an above-average charisma, and without an above-average intelligence? They all can cast with just 10 in a stat: you are just limited to cantrips. :D Not sure what you mean...
Lotus Crane 03-05-06, 07:39 PM	I think what the OP is trying to ask is: can you make a spellcasting class that doesn't require any high mental ability scores. And the answer is: no. Mechanically speaking, the power of spellcasting classes is supposed to be limited by their need to place their highest ability score in Int, Wis or Cha, as opposed to Str, Dex or Con. Imagine how much more powerful a wizard would be if her spellcasting was based on Dex instead of Int, or how much more powerful a cleric would be if his spellcasting was based on Con instead of Wis. Imagine how much more amusing a bard would be if his spellcasting (and bardic music) was based on Str instead of Cha (bardarian anybody?).
phasedoor 03-06-06, 01:58 PM	I think what the OP is trying to ask is: can you make a spellcasting class that doesn't require any high mental ability scores. And the answer is: no. Mechanically speaking, the power of spellcasting classes is supposed to be limited by their need to place their highest ability score in Int, Wis or Cha, as opposed to Str, Dex or Con. Imagine how much more powerful a wizard would be if her spellcasting was based on Dex instead of Int, or how much more powerful a cleric would be if his spellcasting was based on Con instead of Wis. Imagine how much more amusing a bard would be if his spellcasting (and bardic music) was based on Str instead of Cha (bardarian anybody?). Thank You, LotusCrane. What does it take for me to print something that every person can understand? Wait, don't answer that because I already write or type or print clearly and easy so that any person who has average intelligence can comprehend. Now, can a person of this group ask a Wizards Of The Coast DandD 3.5 or 3.0 game designer to find out if any new created career class or character class can be a mix of fighter/rogue/sorcerer-wizard/nondruid cleric without above-average intelligence, without above-average wisdom, and without above-average charisma? The only character class that I know of so far is the warlock in CompleteArcane that does not seem to require an above-average charisma, an above-average intelligence, or/and an above-average wisdom. The problem for me with that warlock is that it requires a chaotic alignment. The only other character class that I know of so far is the spellthief in CompleteAdventurer that can be strongly TN and that can cast a magic spell without having an above-average mental ability score. Is that correct for the spellthief? If yes, spellthief is my favorite adventurer class, my favorite career class, and/or my favorite character class.