A Kineticist... WHOA... [Archive] - Wizards Community

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Azual

11-24-04, 09:09 PM
Um anyone seen this class,
Psion (Kineticist) At fifth level = DOOM :evillaugh
I mean this class is EVIL
Energy Cone does 5d6 DAMAGE IN A 60 FOOT CONE
that just SPELLS death
and as the frosting, you have energy missile, which does 3d6 damage to FIVE TARGETS... um.. this is really REALLY unbalenced, if anyone;s listening, i mean a wizard can cast... what fireball ONCE PER DAY while a Psion can cast this thing like 7 times.
:blink:
ShadowRanger

11-24-04, 09:19 PM
there is a thread dealing with common misconceptions on the psionic board. And a fireball by a 5th level wizard is going to do 5d6 damage as well.
The Grinning Pint

11-24-04, 10:12 PM
And a fireball by a 5th level wizard is going to do 5d6 damage as well.
In a 20ft radius explosion!
angryman

11-24-04, 10:14 PM
Are you being sarcastic or not. I really can't tell...
BlaineTog

11-24-04, 10:19 PM
The kinetecist is not broken.

At all.

Energy Missile can deal 3d6+3 points of damage to 5 targets, if (and only if) no two of those targets are more than 15 feet apart.

Which should almost never happen.

Clearly, you don't understand the XPH. I suggest playtesting it.
RatFlail OF DOOM!!!!

11-24-04, 10:25 PM
This is constantly argued. Kineticist are balanced. Energy cone 60ft radius. Say good bye to your allies unless you want to be in the front lines with your uber d4 hp... Plus youll probably notice after about 5 encounters you wont have any pp left.
The Grinning Pint

11-24-04, 10:29 PM
Say good bye to your allies.

Hm.. Clever tool to destroy your pesky "teammates" without making it look like backstabbing!

'I was just using my energy cone! Its not my fault the entire party stands in front of me!''
Azual

11-24-04, 11:18 PM
your right, im sorry, i was kind of rushing this Psion, there was a new guy, decided on Psion, and we didnt ghet time to document the exact details of the Spells, i think its all in the Strategy of the cretures.
:)
To be fair, the Wizard has 10 more HP then the Psion (a meansely 17HP) but i DO think that i mean you can aim that sucker and take out EASILY half an army, alot more space then just a 20 ft spread.
:cool:
Necromancers STILL Rule
Azual

11-24-04, 11:20 PM
Hm.. Clever tool to destroy your pesky "teammates" without making it look like backstabbing!

'I was just using my energy cone! Its not my fault the entire party stands in front of me!''
that happened actually twice, but he decided to just use enegy missile
that thing is like a SOOPED up Magic missile. THATS the unbalenced spell
BlaineTog

11-24-04, 11:25 PM
that thing is like a SOOPED up Magic missile.Hardly.

Energy Missile deals energy damage (albeit you get to choose which type to deal), whereas Magic Missile deals Force. Energy Missile is 2nd level, Magic Missile is 1st. Any Sor/Wiz can pick up Magic Missile, only Kineticists can get Energy Missile. Energy Missile offers a save (albeit with a very high DC). And, like all powers, Energy Missle doesn't automatically scale.
Doomhawk

11-25-04, 02:53 AM
BlaineTog's right, Energy Missile is less like a scaled-up Magic Missile than it is a scaled-down Fireball. Except for the unusual augmentation DC thing, but it doesn't make a noticeable difference until quite high levels anyway, and by that point, blasting has become quite sub-par to the wizards who are throwing around instant death and the clerics with their spellcasting and super-buffs.
Azual

11-25-04, 09:02 AM
Hardly.

Energy Missile deals energy damage (albeit you get to choose which type to deal), whereas Magic Missile deals Force. Energy Missile is 2nd level, Magic Missile is 1st. Any Sor/Wiz can pick up Magic Missile, only Kineticists can get Energy Missile. Energy Missile offers a save (albeit with a very high DC). And, like all powers, Energy Missle doesn't automatically scale.

once again, being in a rush to get started, we only looked at the damage!
TY Tog for the clear up.
oh btw look at my Sig
:D