A more "worldly" Knight [Archive] - Wizards Community

A more "worldly" Knight [Archive] - Wizards Community

Post/Author/DateTime Post
Bohica
06-20-06, 07:10 AM The D&D Knight is a warrior of fantasy. Does anybody know of a more realistic knight class to reflect a Dark Age to Crusader Age Knight?

Thanks in advance.

Bohica
Sunrider
06-20-06, 07:15 AM - Fighter class
- Specialising in mounted, melee combat
- Usually, but not always, Lawful
Bohica
06-20-06, 07:24 AM I would like to leave the fighter seperate. I understand that using the fighter would be the easiest way to accomplish what I want, but I'm trying to have something independent of the fighter to reflect their time spent as a page and a squire. Something more in terms of a light code to follow and access to a few more skills and other abilities. Any other suggestions besides a fighter?
Radijs
06-20-06, 08:29 AM The knight class from Phb2?

The non-magical paladin variant from Complete Adventurer?
(Psi)SeveredHead
06-20-06, 08:42 AM Apply Wild Cohort to a warhorse. Whine at your DM until they say yes :)
Millennium
06-20-06, 12:50 PM Fighter class, appropriate feats, and roleplay. There is no need for this archetype to have custom class abilities.
Tony Vargas
06-20-06, 04:39 PM Aristocrat.

No, really, 'knight' has always been much more a position than a skill set. Of course, you can become a knight, so a variation on Aristocrat that could be earned like PrC after 1st level would be apropriate. Or, you could just allow anyone whose been knighted to begin taking Aristocrat levels.

The skills and status of the Aristocrat NPC class are pretty apropriate to a 'knight,' even if the BAB isn't all it could be.

To upgrade it to something closer to PC power-levels, increase it's BAB to full and give it a good FORT save, as well.
Xaean
06-20-06, 05:02 PM The noble from the Dragonlance Campaign Setting is basically a PC version of the aristrocrat and might therefore be suited as a knight too. Very similar to the DMG aristocrat (d8 hit dice, medium BAB, 4 skill points, all kinds of armor and martial & simple weapons) but with to ability to use his connections and give his allies bonuses. You may want to multiclass as fighter or ... knight.
Sunrider
06-20-06, 10:13 PM Fighter with one of the many 'noble background'-type starting feats... explains everything.

Alternatively, if someone rose to become a knight through another means, you don't even need the feat.

Post/Author/DateTime	Post
Bohica 06-20-06, 07:10 AM	The D&D Knight is a warrior of fantasy. Does anybody know of a more realistic knight class to reflect a Dark Age to Crusader Age Knight? Thanks in advance. Bohica
Sunrider 06-20-06, 07:15 AM	- Fighter class - Specialising in mounted, melee combat - Usually, but not always, Lawful
Bohica 06-20-06, 07:24 AM	I would like to leave the fighter seperate. I understand that using the fighter would be the easiest way to accomplish what I want, but I'm trying to have something independent of the fighter to reflect their time spent as a page and a squire. Something more in terms of a light code to follow and access to a few more skills and other abilities. Any other suggestions besides a fighter?
Radijs 06-20-06, 08:29 AM	The knight class from Phb2? The non-magical paladin variant from Complete Adventurer?
(Psi)SeveredHead 06-20-06, 08:42 AM	Apply Wild Cohort to a warhorse. Whine at your DM until they say yes :)
Millennium 06-20-06, 12:50 PM	Fighter class, appropriate feats, and roleplay. There is no need for this archetype to have custom class abilities.
Tony Vargas 06-20-06, 04:39 PM	Aristocrat. No, really, 'knight' has always been much more a position than a skill set. Of course, you can become a knight, so a variation on Aristocrat that could be earned like PrC after 1st level would be apropriate. Or, you could just allow anyone whose been knighted to begin taking Aristocrat levels. The skills and status of the Aristocrat NPC class are pretty apropriate to a 'knight,' even if the BAB isn't all it could be. To upgrade it to something closer to PC power-levels, increase it's BAB to full and give it a good FORT save, as well.
Xaean 06-20-06, 05:02 PM	The noble from the Dragonlance Campaign Setting is basically a PC version of the aristrocrat and might therefore be suited as a knight too. Very similar to the DMG aristocrat (d8 hit dice, medium BAB, 4 skill points, all kinds of armor and martial & simple weapons) but with to ability to use his connections and give his allies bonuses. You may want to multiclass as fighter or ... knight.
Sunrider 06-20-06, 10:13 PM	Fighter with one of the many 'noble background'-type starting feats... explains everything. Alternatively, if someone rose to become a knight through another means, you don't even need the feat.