A question or two about Sorcerer's (or wizzies I spose!) [Archive] - Wizards Community

A question or two about Sorcerer's (or wizzies I spose!) [Archive] - Wizards Community

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FlyingCowKing
01-31-04, 11:37 PM The PHB says under the familiar paragraph of the sorcerer section (pg54):
"A sorcerer can obtain a familiar. Doing so takes 24 hours and uses up magical materials that cost 100gp."

Now my questions are: Is summoning a familiar a spell, a supernatural ability, or maybe an extraordinary class ability, or something different?

The 100gp in magical materials; are those "spell components"?

I know these are kinda nit-picky questions, but I was curious how it all falls into the rules, to resolve an arguement .... with ... myself. :)

Thx a bunch
BlaineTog
01-31-04, 11:43 PM Originally posted by FlyingCowKing
Of the two, I'd say Supernatural, and it's a class ability.

[b]The 100gp in magical materials; are those "spell components"?Not really, since there's no real spell. But the magical stuff COULD be the components for spells.

Please keep in mind that I don't really know what I'm talking about.
FlyingCowKing
01-31-04, 11:58 PM nooo that's fine Blaine, i just wanted some opinions on that /nod

thanks a bunch!
Sensei Gith
02-01-04, 12:03 AM It doesn't matter. It can't be dispelled or anything no matter what type it is. The only thing that can affect it is a spell from Masters of the Wild (IIRC) that temporarily makes the familiar a mundane animal, but it doesn't depend on what type of ability the familiar is.
Psifon
02-01-04, 03:25 AM This whole question is really about you using some rule-raping to pull one over on your DM. Isn't it?

ISN'T IT

You GO FlyingCowKing!
FlyingCowKing
02-01-04, 03:28 AM !!!!!

I am founded out! /cry!
Kaya Kenobi
02-01-04, 06:58 AM The material components is really about incense.. In 2e you had to burn 1000 gp worth of incense, now 3e cheapened it.
Thermanshs
02-01-04, 08:34 AM I'd rather call the summoning ability as a spell.No supernatural/spell-like abilities last long nor use any material components.It's kind of extra slot used only for this.
Derren S.
02-01-04, 09:33 AM Actually you don't summon a familliar, you enchant an existing animal to be your familliar.

Post/Author/DateTime	Post
FlyingCowKing 01-31-04, 11:37 PM	The PHB says under the familiar paragraph of the sorcerer section (pg54): "A sorcerer can obtain a familiar. Doing so takes 24 hours and uses up magical materials that cost 100gp." Now my questions are: Is summoning a familiar a spell, a supernatural ability, or maybe an extraordinary class ability, or something different? The 100gp in magical materials; are those "spell components"? I know these are kinda nit-picky questions, but I was curious how it all falls into the rules, to resolve an arguement .... with ... myself. :) Thx a bunch
BlaineTog 01-31-04, 11:43 PM	Originally posted by FlyingCowKing Of the two, I'd say Supernatural, and it's a class ability. [b]The 100gp in magical materials; are those "spell components"?Not really, since there's no real spell. But the magical stuff COULD be the components for spells. Please keep in mind that I don't really know what I'm talking about.
FlyingCowKing 01-31-04, 11:58 PM	nooo that's fine Blaine, i just wanted some opinions on that /nod thanks a bunch!
Sensei Gith 02-01-04, 12:03 AM	It doesn't matter. It can't be dispelled or anything no matter what type it is. The only thing that can affect it is a spell from Masters of the Wild (IIRC) that temporarily makes the familiar a mundane animal, but it doesn't depend on what type of ability the familiar is.
Psifon 02-01-04, 03:25 AM	This whole question is really about you using some rule-raping to pull one over on your DM. Isn't it? ISN'T IT You GO FlyingCowKing!
FlyingCowKing 02-01-04, 03:28 AM	!!!!! I am founded out! /cry!
Kaya Kenobi 02-01-04, 06:58 AM	The material components is really about incense.. In 2e you had to burn 1000 gp worth of incense, now 3e cheapened it.
Thermanshs 02-01-04, 08:34 AM	I'd rather call the summoning ability as a spell.No supernatural/spell-like abilities last long nor use any material components.It's kind of extra slot used only for this.
Derren S. 02-01-04, 09:33 AM	Actually you don't summon a familliar, you enchant an existing animal to be your familliar.