Abjurant Champion Errata [Archive] - Wizards Community

Abjurant Champion Errata [Archive] - Wizards Community

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Shadowsmith
10-22-06, 04:43 PM There is a problem with the Abjurant Champion.

1. Abjurant Armor (Su): Any time you can an abjuration spell that grants you an armor bonus or shield bonus to AC, you can increase the value of the bonus by your abjurant champion class level. Abjurant campions rely on mage armor, shield, and similar spells instead of actual armor.

2. The sample abjurant champion gains a +9 armor bonus from mage armor.

The problem is that mage armor is a conjuration spell rather than an abjuration spell.

Questions/Possible Solutions:

1. Does Abjurant Armor apply to all spells that grant an armor bonus or shield bonus to AC?

2. Was mage armor made into an abjuration in an errata that I missed?
MaverickWolf
10-24-06, 10:14 AM I just checked, and there is no errata on that which you've missed, so you raise an interesting question.
kaor
10-24-06, 10:56 AM Did you also notice that the sample character only had two abjuration spells on his spells known list, 0-resistance, and 1-karmic aura?

Personally I would leverage the abjuration if I were taking this class, particularly the quicken aspect of it.

Just SRD I would take:

0-Resistance

1-Alarm (I guess you could use a wand for this, but I like it and the duration is longer)
1-Hold Portal (yes I know, but quickened it can be very useful at times, run through a door glance back and seal it, all the while sprinting...)
1-Protection from X
1-Shield
Endure Elements is best off a wand.

2-Arcane Lock (25 gp a pop xpensive, but even better, have to think about it. done, I think I would take both.)
2-Resist Energy

3-Dispel Magic (useless later, but always handy pre-epic against magic items since they have low caster levels unlike real casters. Your winged boots or wings of flying are useless now, bwaa-ha-ha!)
3-Magic Circle against X (are these separate spells or one spell like resist energy?)
3-Protection from Energy

The quicken aspect makes them very useful. Maybe not the most powerful things you can do with low level spells but auto quicken makes them extremely interesting.

Edit: Oh yeah the example's caster level is messed up too, he took practiced spellcaster and it is only 10th, same as his BAB?

It's not optimized but if I were taking this guy to 20 I would use Eldritch knight. 19 BAB, 19th Cl , true 15th level casting only seventh levels spells though. Although I'm sure much more effective builds exist I think of this guy as a fighter type. Maybe one level of spellsword? You don't lose anything and get the ability to use mithril chain without spell failure and better saves except for reflex.

Post/Author/DateTime	Post
Shadowsmith 10-22-06, 04:43 PM	There is a problem with the Abjurant Champion. 1. Abjurant Armor (Su): Any time you can an abjuration spell that grants you an armor bonus or shield bonus to AC, you can increase the value of the bonus by your abjurant champion class level. Abjurant campions rely on mage armor, shield, and similar spells instead of actual armor. 2. The sample abjurant champion gains a +9 armor bonus from mage armor. The problem is that mage armor is a conjuration spell rather than an abjuration spell. Questions/Possible Solutions: 1. Does Abjurant Armor apply to all spells that grant an armor bonus or shield bonus to AC? 2. Was mage armor made into an abjuration in an errata that I missed?
MaverickWolf 10-24-06, 10:14 AM	I just checked, and there is no errata on that which you've missed, so you raise an interesting question.
kaor 10-24-06, 10:56 AM	Did you also notice that the sample character only had two abjuration spells on his spells known list, 0-resistance, and 1-karmic aura? Personally I would leverage the abjuration if I were taking this class, particularly the quicken aspect of it. Just SRD I would take: 0-Resistance 1-Alarm (I guess you could use a wand for this, but I like it and the duration is longer) 1-Hold Portal (yes I know, but quickened it can be very useful at times, run through a door glance back and seal it, all the while sprinting...) 1-Protection from X 1-Shield Endure Elements is best off a wand. 2-Arcane Lock (25 gp a pop xpensive, but even better, have to think about it. done, I think I would take both.) 2-Resist Energy 3-Dispel Magic (useless later, but always handy pre-epic against magic items since they have low caster levels unlike real casters. Your winged boots or wings of flying are useless now, bwaa-ha-ha!) 3-Magic Circle against X (are these separate spells or one spell like resist energy?) 3-Protection from Energy The quicken aspect makes them very useful. Maybe not the most powerful things you can do with low level spells but auto quicken makes them extremely interesting. Edit: Oh yeah the example's caster level is messed up too, he took practiced spellcaster and it is only 10th, same as his BAB? It's not optimized but if I were taking this guy to 20 I would use Eldritch knight. 19 BAB, 19th Cl , true 15th level casting only seventh levels spells though. Although I'm sure much more effective builds exist I think of this guy as a fighter type. Maybe one level of spellsword? You don't lose anything and get the ability to use mithril chain without spell failure and better saves except for reflex.