Acolyte of the Skin (T&B) vs Acolyte of the Skin (CA) [Archive] - Wizards Community

Acolyte of the Skin (T&B) vs Acolyte of the Skin (CA) [Archive] - Wizards Community

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hat
07-27-05, 06:42 PM Hi all,

I'm after some opinions on the two versions of the Acolyte of the Skin prestige class. The first version was presented in Tome and Blood and the second incarnation was presented in Complete Arcane.

I have carte blanche to choose whichever version I like and I was hoping to get some opinions on the usefulness of the two versions.

I ask only because I notice there have been a few small changes.

What are the merits and flaws of the two versions and which would you choose? I intend to go Wizard 5/ AotS 10/ Wizard 5

Hat
Manyfist
07-27-05, 07:09 PM Tome and Blood is 3.0, while CA is 3.5
stamhaven
07-27-05, 07:16 PM 3.0 version has bad BAB 3.5 version has average BAB

3.0 version has good fort and will saves same in 3.5
3.0 version has back loaded 5/10 caster levels same in 3.5
3.0 fiendish glare matches very close to 3.5 version
3.0 glare of the pit matches the 3.5 version
3.0 wear fiend matches 3.5

3.0 version has flame and cold resistance 20 3.5 verssion has 10 each

3.0 version has DR 20/+1 3.5 version has DR 10/GOOD

3.0 offers 2 bonus feats 3.5 version offers none

3.0 version offers 35% chance to summon a vrok/gelugon (CR 13/13 in 3.0) vs 100% summon a babau/chain devil (CR 6/6 in 3.5) each once per day

The specials for 3.0 clearly are superior (especially compared to standard 3.0 DR and ER values) but the bab is nice in 3.5 as is the DR <aligned>.

A lot of the major differences come from 3.0/3.5 global changes (DR and ER for instance changed radically across most monsters). If he's willing to translater DR 20/+1 to 20/magic and leave the ER alone at 20 despite the change in how those work I'd jump at it from a power perspective. The two feats in 3.0 seem about equal to the difference in bab. Vrock's in 3.5 are now CR 9 and Gelugon are still CR 13 so the edge in that still goes to 3.0 version though if you want consistent fodder 3.5 is better.
Manyfist
07-27-05, 07:44 PM 3.5 is better at the end of his M/Cing he will have +12 BAB, +14 Will, +10 Fort, +6 Dex. Also even the 13/13 he has 35% chance... 1/day gone 75% of the time. You should not Pick and choose the ablities between the Classes, that's just wrong.

Post/Author/DateTime	Post
hat 07-27-05, 06:42 PM	Hi all, I'm after some opinions on the two versions of the Acolyte of the Skin prestige class. The first version was presented in Tome and Blood and the second incarnation was presented in Complete Arcane. I have carte blanche to choose whichever version I like and I was hoping to get some opinions on the usefulness of the two versions. I ask only because I notice there have been a few small changes. What are the merits and flaws of the two versions and which would you choose? I intend to go Wizard 5/ AotS 10/ Wizard 5 Hat
Manyfist 07-27-05, 07:09 PM	Tome and Blood is 3.0, while CA is 3.5
stamhaven 07-27-05, 07:16 PM	3.0 version has bad BAB 3.5 version has average BAB 3.0 version has good fort and will saves same in 3.5 3.0 version has back loaded 5/10 caster levels same in 3.5 3.0 fiendish glare matches very close to 3.5 version 3.0 glare of the pit matches the 3.5 version 3.0 wear fiend matches 3.5 3.0 version has flame and cold resistance 20 3.5 verssion has 10 each 3.0 version has DR 20/+1 3.5 version has DR 10/GOOD 3.0 offers 2 bonus feats 3.5 version offers none 3.0 version offers 35% chance to summon a vrok/gelugon (CR 13/13 in 3.0) vs 100% summon a babau/chain devil (CR 6/6 in 3.5) each once per day The specials for 3.0 clearly are superior (especially compared to standard 3.0 DR and ER values) but the bab is nice in 3.5 as is the DR <aligned>. A lot of the major differences come from 3.0/3.5 global changes (DR and ER for instance changed radically across most monsters). If he's willing to translater DR 20/+1 to 20/magic and leave the ER alone at 20 despite the change in how those work I'd jump at it from a power perspective. The two feats in 3.0 seem about equal to the difference in bab. Vrock's in 3.5 are now CR 9 and Gelugon are still CR 13 so the edge in that still goes to 3.0 version though if you want consistent fodder 3.5 is better.
Manyfist 07-27-05, 07:44 PM	3.5 is better at the end of his M/Cing he will have +12 BAB, +14 Will, +10 Fort, +6 Dex. Also even the 13/13 he has 35% chance... 1/day gone 75% of the time. You should not Pick and choose the ablities between the Classes, that's just wrong.