Alignment Paladin [Archive] - Wizards Community

Alignment Paladin [Archive] - Wizards Community

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Sacul Kamadaka
06-23-04, 03:27 PM Has some one made a paladin variant that that choses alignment like a cleric?
Szatany
06-23-04, 03:46 PM I didn't, but i did paladin class that can be of any good alignment (and that choice determines some of her special abilities). I also did similar class, the scourge, but for evil guys. If you wanna take a look, links are below in my sig.
Sacul Kamadaka
06-23-04, 04:46 PM Thats what I mean but of any alignment.
BlaineTog
06-23-04, 05:00 PM Yes and no. My Fist of God (http://boards1.wizards.com/showthread.php?s=&postid=3087753#post3087753) Class is supposed to be a martial Cleric, but its got some of the Paladin's shtick as well. Its also horribly overpowered. :D I need to fix that one of these days...
The GOP Dragon
07-08-04, 03:41 PM I don't think so, Paladins are supposed to be the very embodiment of good and law, but if you want something more flexible, check Unearthed Arcana, it might have what you are looking for.
roguebfl
07-08-04, 05:14 PM Originally posted by The GOP Dragon
I don't think so, Paladins are supposed to be the very embodiment of good and law, but if you want something more flexible, check Unearthed Arcana, it might have what you are looking for.

Namle as CG, CE and LE base class "paladins"
Thorak
07-08-04, 07:40 PM While I see the role CE, LE, and CE champions would play in the game, they shouldn't be called 'paladins' of any variation, and their abilities should be entirely different. For the same reason that Fighters aren't called Anti-Wizards. The anti-paladin, made by 'flipping' all the Good abilities of the paladin into Evil things, is an anachronism, especially since most people make him CE. You could make a case for a LE anti-paladin type, but there's absolutely no reason a CE champion would be knightly in any kind of way, even to having the corrupt code of 'ethics' anti-paladins follow.
The GOP Dragon
07-08-04, 09:02 PM I agree with Thorak, a paladin of any other alignment is no paladin at all. Personally I didn't like that idea of a chaotic and/or evil paladin i just thought my suggestion would help.
DaTedinator
07-08-04, 10:09 PM Well actually:

Main Entry: pal·a·din
Pronunciation: 'pa-l&-d&n
Function: noun
Etymology: French, from Italian paladino, from Medieval Latin palatinus courtier, from Late Latin, imperial official -- more at PALATINE
1 : a trusted military leader (as for a medieval prince)
2 : a leading champion of a cause
From the Merriam-Webster online dictionary.

A leading champion of a cause could be for any cause. Just my (and m-w's) two cp. :D
The GOP Dragon
07-08-04, 10:17 PM Yeah, well the D&D concept of a paladin is a champion of justice. Again, if you feel that a paladin should have different alignments, they did it nicely in Unearthed Arcana.
Romulus LoneWolf
07-08-04, 11:13 PM I've already made a post concerning my idea for Paladins of alignments other then LG: My idea for Paladins of altered alignments (http://boards1.wizards.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=272322)

To sum it up: Paladins can be any Non-Evil alignment, but usually choose an alignment matching that of a patron deity. Likewise, rather then the Paladin's code, they take up a code of conduct inspired by their patron deity. Also, with the Knight Training feat from Eberron, they can multiclass into an appropriate class for their patron deity's cause (thus, the Paladin of a woodland goddess could multiclass into Ranger, while a CG one of a savage wargod could multiclass into Barbarian)

Didn't post it, but I'd have Blackguards serve as the Anti-Paladins of choice, beholden to the Fiend Lords of the setting against the Gods.
roguebfl
07-08-04, 11:48 PM Originally posted by Romulus LoneWolf
Didn't post it, but I'd have Blackguards serve as the Anti-Paladins of choice, beholden to the Fiend Lords of the setting against the Gods.

to mean they 'don't 'serve' becuse they are fore fallen Paladins. it Serve the role you need to at leas be using Paladin as a PrC or else the role need to be served buy a base class to be a counter part.

Note I'm in the group the don't call the other (un)holy Champions Paladins.

Post/Author/DateTime	Post
Sacul Kamadaka 06-23-04, 03:27 PM	Has some one made a paladin variant that that choses alignment like a cleric?
Szatany 06-23-04, 03:46 PM	I didn't, but i did paladin class that can be of any good alignment (and that choice determines some of her special abilities). I also did similar class, the scourge, but for evil guys. If you wanna take a look, links are below in my sig.
Sacul Kamadaka 06-23-04, 04:46 PM	Thats what I mean but of any alignment.
BlaineTog 06-23-04, 05:00 PM	Yes and no. My Fist of God (http://boards1.wizards.com/showthread.php?s=&postid=3087753#post3087753) Class is supposed to be a martial Cleric, but its got some of the Paladin's shtick as well. Its also horribly overpowered. :D I need to fix that one of these days...
The GOP Dragon 07-08-04, 03:41 PM	I don't think so, Paladins are supposed to be the very embodiment of good and law, but if you want something more flexible, check Unearthed Arcana, it might have what you are looking for.
roguebfl 07-08-04, 05:14 PM	Originally posted by The GOP Dragon I don't think so, Paladins are supposed to be the very embodiment of good and law, but if you want something more flexible, check Unearthed Arcana, it might have what you are looking for. Namle as CG, CE and LE base class "paladins"
Thorak 07-08-04, 07:40 PM	While I see the role CE, LE, and CE champions would play in the game, they shouldn't be called 'paladins' of any variation, and their abilities should be entirely different. For the same reason that Fighters aren't called Anti-Wizards. The anti-paladin, made by 'flipping' all the Good abilities of the paladin into Evil things, is an anachronism, especially since most people make him CE. You could make a case for a LE anti-paladin type, but there's absolutely no reason a CE champion would be knightly in any kind of way, even to having the corrupt code of 'ethics' anti-paladins follow.
The GOP Dragon 07-08-04, 09:02 PM	I agree with Thorak, a paladin of any other alignment is no paladin at all. Personally I didn't like that idea of a chaotic and/or evil paladin i just thought my suggestion would help.
DaTedinator 07-08-04, 10:09 PM	Well actually: Main Entry: pal·a·din Pronunciation: 'pa-l&-d&n Function: noun Etymology: French, from Italian paladino, from Medieval Latin palatinus courtier, from Late Latin, imperial official -- more at PALATINE 1 : a trusted military leader (as for a medieval prince) 2 : a leading champion of a cause From the Merriam-Webster online dictionary. A leading champion of a cause could be for any cause. Just my (and m-w's) two cp. :D
The GOP Dragon 07-08-04, 10:17 PM	Yeah, well the D&D concept of a paladin is a champion of justice. Again, if you feel that a paladin should have different alignments, they did it nicely in Unearthed Arcana.
Romulus LoneWolf 07-08-04, 11:13 PM	I've already made a post concerning my idea for Paladins of alignments other then LG: My idea for Paladins of altered alignments (http://boards1.wizards.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=272322) To sum it up: Paladins can be any Non-Evil alignment, but usually choose an alignment matching that of a patron deity. Likewise, rather then the Paladin's code, they take up a code of conduct inspired by their patron deity. Also, with the Knight Training feat from Eberron, they can multiclass into an appropriate class for their patron deity's cause (thus, the Paladin of a woodland goddess could multiclass into Ranger, while a CG one of a savage wargod could multiclass into Barbarian) Didn't post it, but I'd have Blackguards serve as the Anti-Paladins of choice, beholden to the Fiend Lords of the setting against the Gods.
roguebfl 07-08-04, 11:48 PM	Originally posted by Romulus LoneWolf Didn't post it, but I'd have Blackguards serve as the Anti-Paladins of choice, beholden to the Fiend Lords of the setting against the Gods. to mean they 'don't 'serve' becuse they are fore fallen Paladins. it Serve the role you need to at leas be using Paladin as a PrC or else the role need to be served buy a base class to be a counter part. Note I'm in the group the don't call the other (un)holy Champions Paladins.