Alt/New Fighter Class Idea [Archive] - Wizards Community

Alt/New Fighter Class Idea [Archive] - Wizards Community

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wookibus
11-16-06, 10:36 PM There is a lot of distaste for the current fighter, as it is somewhat bland. So I am working on a idea to give the versatility of fighters through skills. My idea was to grant the fighter feats through having a set amount of ranks in a skill. Here a few examples:

Ride:
6 Ranks-Mounted Combat
10 Ranks- Ride-By-Attack
14 Ranks- Sprited Charge
18 Ranks- Trample

Tumble:
6 Ranks- Dodge
10 Ranks- Mobility
14 Ranks- Spring Attack

Escape Artist:
10 Ranks- Improved grapple

Intimidate:
6 Ranks- Power Attack
10 Ranks- Cleave
14 Ranks- Greater Cleave
or
6 Ranks Power Attack
10 Ranks- Improved Overrun
14 Ranks- Improved Bull Rush

and so on...

I know escape artist and tumble are not fighter feats, but it would make sense that they could possibly be. Escape Artist for grappling, Tumble to be agile on the battlefield. If all the feats were broken down into skill trees, it would eliminate the fighter from using all the bonus feats to add to versatility,and let the feat selection add more flavor with feat selection. The fighter would still have to meet the prereqs for the feats, and also could be limited to a certain number of trees based on skills, which they have decide at first. Since they only do have a 2+int skills modifier, it does not seem like it would break the system to me.
It is just a random idea I came up with, and am still working on. The ranks are an abritrary number, just used as examples. Any suggestions on how to elaborate on this idea, or criticism on why it would never work?
Belgian Waffle
11-16-06, 10:53 PM So... I would have to roll to see if I wanted to do a special attack like Cleave or Bullrush or whatever?
Just seems confusing how you're supposed to use these things and it looks like a lot of extra work since I'm sure that everything you're turning into a skill is going to need extra rules on how they work.

I think that you just need to explain a little bit more.
wookibus
11-16-06, 11:04 PM You wouldn't need to roll skill checks or anything, you would have to just aquire the feat once you reach the set amount of ranks in that particular skill as well as meet the prereqs that the feat has. The majority of classes have spells with add to the flavor of the class, and barbarians and rogues are littered with useful/interesting abilities. Since the fighter really has only feats going for it, this would be a way to obtain versatility by using skills (which are nothing really to great in terms of what they get) and allow for at least the bonus feats to be used in more character personality feats (ie throw anything).

Post/Author/DateTime	Post
wookibus 11-16-06, 10:36 PM	There is a lot of distaste for the current fighter, as it is somewhat bland. So I am working on a idea to give the versatility of fighters through skills. My idea was to grant the fighter feats through having a set amount of ranks in a skill. Here a few examples: Ride: 6 Ranks-Mounted Combat 10 Ranks- Ride-By-Attack 14 Ranks- Sprited Charge 18 Ranks- Trample Tumble: 6 Ranks- Dodge 10 Ranks- Mobility 14 Ranks- Spring Attack Escape Artist: 10 Ranks- Improved grapple Intimidate: 6 Ranks- Power Attack 10 Ranks- Cleave 14 Ranks- Greater Cleave or 6 Ranks Power Attack 10 Ranks- Improved Overrun 14 Ranks- Improved Bull Rush and so on... I know escape artist and tumble are not fighter feats, but it would make sense that they could possibly be. Escape Artist for grappling, Tumble to be agile on the battlefield. If all the feats were broken down into skill trees, it would eliminate the fighter from using all the bonus feats to add to versatility,and let the feat selection add more flavor with feat selection. The fighter would still have to meet the prereqs for the feats, and also could be limited to a certain number of trees based on skills, which they have decide at first. Since they only do have a 2+int skills modifier, it does not seem like it would break the system to me. It is just a random idea I came up with, and am still working on. The ranks are an abritrary number, just used as examples. Any suggestions on how to elaborate on this idea, or criticism on why it would never work?
Belgian Waffle 11-16-06, 10:53 PM	So... I would have to roll to see if I wanted to do a special attack like Cleave or Bullrush or whatever? Just seems confusing how you're supposed to use these things and it looks like a lot of extra work since I'm sure that everything you're turning into a skill is going to need extra rules on how they work. I think that you just need to explain a little bit more.
wookibus 11-16-06, 11:04 PM	You wouldn't need to roll skill checks or anything, you would have to just aquire the feat once you reach the set amount of ranks in that particular skill as well as meet the prereqs that the feat has. The majority of classes have spells with add to the flavor of the class, and barbarians and rogues are littered with useful/interesting abilities. Since the fighter really has only feats going for it, this would be a way to obtain versatility by using skills (which are nothing really to great in terms of what they get) and allow for at least the bonus feats to be used in more character personality feats (ie throw anything).