Alternative Sorcerer? [Archive] - Wizards Community

Alternative Sorcerer? [Archive] - Wizards Community

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Rechan
09-16-07, 11:01 PM I think the Sorcerer class is a little barren. I feel sorry for the sorcerer in my game I'm about to start.

Given that wizards get options for specialization and feats every level (plus scribe scroll), do you have any general suggestions for what to give Sorcerers to give them a little boost?

I'm thinking giving access to bonus feats along the Sudden/Reserved feats list.
dman11235
09-16-07, 11:25 PM There are variants all over the place. Battle Scorcerer from UA (also SRD), there's the stalwart from CMage, CC has one (A really good one).
HamHam
09-16-07, 11:28 PM Eschew Materials at lv 1, and then bonus feats every five levels like a Wizard.

Then rework spells known so they don't suck so much.

My formula is:

3 1 at lv 1 plus Bonus Spells the same as Spell per day.
Then you get one more of each level you have (to a max of 9) a each even level and one of the next highest level at each odd level. Thus the next two levels would be:

4 2
4 2 1

Then put a 2 before every 3 on the Spells per Day chart.
Talisman
09-16-07, 11:29 PM I'm working on a variant that loses familiar and gains Eschew Materials ('cause magic is inherent, y'know), plus a few of the Heritage feats from CArc, CMage, and other places. I'm looking at this at the momnt:
1st level: Eschew Materials (sorcerer spells only)
2nd: Heritage Feat (may also allow Bloodline feats from Dragon #311 and #325)
5th: Heritage Feat
10th: Heritage Feat
15th: Heritage Feat
20th: Heritage Feat
Rechan
09-16-07, 11:35 PM There are variants all over the place. Battle Scorcerer from UA (also SRD), there's the stalwart from CMage, CC has one (A really good one).

CC is what now?

I'm looking for a Spellcasting-focused sorcerer. Battle sorcerer, Stalwart, etc is really just a watered down Warmage.
dman11235
09-17-07, 12:33 AM Ah, but warmages suck. This still gains the versitile spellcasting. Complete Champion.

I think the scorcerer is fine balance wise the way it is now.
HamHam
09-17-07, 12:42 AM I think the scorcerer is fine balance wise the way it is now.

It's not.
dman11235
09-17-07, 01:26 AM Why? It's more powerful than some core classes, and less than others. I think it's really fun to play the way it is. Just vary things with PrCs.

Post/Author/DateTime	Post
Rechan 09-16-07, 11:01 PM	I think the Sorcerer class is a little barren. I feel sorry for the sorcerer in my game I'm about to start. Given that wizards get options for specialization and feats every level (plus scribe scroll), do you have any general suggestions for what to give Sorcerers to give them a little boost? I'm thinking giving access to bonus feats along the Sudden/Reserved feats list.
dman11235 09-16-07, 11:25 PM	There are variants all over the place. Battle Scorcerer from UA (also SRD), there's the stalwart from CMage, CC has one (A really good one).
HamHam 09-16-07, 11:28 PM	Eschew Materials at lv 1, and then bonus feats every five levels like a Wizard. Then rework spells known so they don't suck so much. My formula is: 3 1 at lv 1 plus Bonus Spells the same as Spell per day. Then you get one more of each level you have (to a max of 9) a each even level and one of the next highest level at each odd level. Thus the next two levels would be: 4 2 4 2 1 Then put a 2 before every 3 on the Spells per Day chart.
Talisman 09-16-07, 11:29 PM	I'm working on a variant that loses familiar and gains Eschew Materials ('cause magic is inherent, y'know), plus a few of the Heritage feats from CArc, CMage, and other places. I'm looking at this at the momnt: 1st level: Eschew Materials (sorcerer spells only) 2nd: Heritage Feat (may also allow Bloodline feats from Dragon #311 and #325) 5th: Heritage Feat 10th: Heritage Feat 15th: Heritage Feat 20th: Heritage Feat
Rechan 09-16-07, 11:35 PM	There are variants all over the place. Battle Scorcerer from UA (also SRD), there's the stalwart from CMage, CC has one (A really good one). CC is what now? I'm looking for a Spellcasting-focused sorcerer. Battle sorcerer, Stalwart, etc is really just a watered down Warmage.
dman11235 09-17-07, 12:33 AM	Ah, but warmages suck. This still gains the versitile spellcasting. Complete Champion. I think the scorcerer is fine balance wise the way it is now.
HamHam 09-17-07, 12:42 AM	I think the scorcerer is fine balance wise the way it is now. It's not.
dman11235 09-17-07, 01:26 AM	Why? It's more powerful than some core classes, and less than others. I think it's really fun to play the way it is. Just vary things with PrCs.