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/\/\ercury 04-04-05, 05:36 PM	Hi there, I am searching for a class with a full base attack which is also good without armor and doesn't use Rage. The thing is, it should become a Falchion Fighter and it kind of sucks if you fight with a Falchion stuffed inside a Fullplate (the PC in the Fullplate, not the Falchion ;) ). So a Duelist style in Defensive Fighting and additional Armor class or a balanced Damage Reduction would be nice.
Ancient Wyrm 04-04-05, 06:02 PM	Your best choice is probably to convince the DM to allow swashbuckler and duelist abilities to apply to the falchion. Second-best choice is dervish. But what's wrong with full plate?
/\/\ercury 04-04-05, 06:18 PM	Good point. Switching Rapier to a 2Handed Weapon! BTW, is there a nice PrC with DR ability (beside the HoM) = But what's wrong with full plate? That's just a question of style :) Sometimes players just want to play something cool :coolcthul
Belldandy 04-04-05, 08:07 PM	Templar gets it doesn´t it? As I believe Soldier of the light (or that might just be fast healing! Woe!) Off the top of my head...
PhaedrusXY 04-04-05, 08:30 PM	Dwarven Defender gets DR. An armor-less DD is kind of a strange beast I think, though. :D It's not a class, but there is also the Mineral Warrior template from the Underdark book. It gets DR 9/Adamantine and some other great things for only a +1 Level Adjustment.
Belldandy 04-04-05, 08:40 PM	mineral warrior is a silly silly template. Adamantine armour of course for an added DR 1/-,2/-, or 3/- hehehehe
Junkyard Dog 04-04-05, 08:45 PM	I think I have an answer for you, though it's a race, not a class. Eberron and MM3 have a race called the shifter, if you're not already familiar with it. By 6th level, it can take take the Shifter Defense racial feat, which grants it DR 2/silver. By 12th level, it can take Greater Shifter Defense, granting it DR 4/silver. If you take the weretouched master PrC, you can qualify for the second by the time you're 9th level (character level). With a shifter and the use of racial feats, you could gain DR and select any fighter-type class or multi-class you want. Just keep in mind that you'll have to select other shifter racial feats first in order to qualify. Still, the shifter feats rock, in my opinion. As a matter of fact, this could work very well with the combination you're pondering: a lightly-armored, falchion-wielding fighter-type. Take levels of fighter and choose to become a beasthide shifter, which gives you +2 Con and +2 natural armor while shifting. You could take the Beasthide Elite shifter feat at 1st level, which boosts the natural armor bonus to +4. It would also count as a prerequisite feat toward getting the ones which give you DR. And +4 natural armor would be great for a guy who's lightly armored. Then you can use your fighter bonus feats for falchion-related stuff. I was just working out all this last night for a shifter monk I'm thinking of playing.
Borris 04-04-05, 09:02 PM	Full base attack bonus, damage reduction, and no rage ability? Well, I can see Dwarven Defender, Dragonslayer, Pious Templar, Hammer of Moradin, Daidoji Bodyguard... I think that's it.
Manyfist 04-04-05, 09:03 PM	Warforged Adamantine Body gives DR 2/-, Warlock Gives out Dr x/Cold Iron(rare to have). Dwarven Defender also has it, I think Warforged Juggernaught also has DR. Beserkers(Barbs.) are kick ass, especailly in alt. rules, when Frezy, Rage, Whirling Madness(I think this is it)...etc.
XrP-Leon 04-04-05, 09:42 PM	What book is the Templar in?
Junkyard Dog 04-05-05, 07:58 AM	What book is the Templar in? The Templar appears in Complete Divine under the name Pious Templar.
CowGoMoo 04-05-05, 08:25 AM	The Pious Templar: http://www.wizards.com/default.asp?x=dnd/iw/20040418a&page=2 A little unbalanced, but no more so than half the other splatbook PrCs. The Green Star Adept is even worse: http://www.wizards.com/default.asp?x=dnd/ex/20041105a You have to waste a level to qualify for arcane spells, and it only gives you 3/4 BAB progression...but the +6 Str alone almost makes up for that.
Deviston 04-05-05, 08:39 AM	Warforged Adamantine Body gives DR 2/-, Warlock Gives out Dr x/Cold Iron(rare to have). Dwarven Defender also has it, I think Warforged Juggernaught also has DR. Beserkers(Barbs.) are kick ass, especailly in alt. rules, when Frezy, Rage, Whirling Madness(I think this is it)...etc. Hey, what happened to the filter? we can say " ass " ? Edit right after posting: Well, it looks like we can . . . thanks . . . now to experiment; dick balls **** **** ***** **** skrut ***** prostitute ****** hoe-bang crank wanker bollocks ****er mother****er cockbiting ****tard ****berries boner bastard bags bastich fewmets ****wit Hab SoSlI' Quch hippakaloric joojooflop mamacrusta zark meecrob buggered mud-sucker nikda bantha poodoo qu'vatlh rassin-frassin shards zoinks shazbot slag codpiece Sorry for the theft, had to fnd out what curse words i could type out and what i could not, laters! /threadtheft off
Largegnome 04-05-05, 08:51 AM	The thing is, it should become a Falchion Fighter and it kind of sucks if you fight with a Falchion stuffed inside a Fullplate (the PC in the Fullplate, not the Falchion ;) ). So a Duelist style in Defensive Fighting and additional Armor class or a balanced Damage Reduction would be nice. Defensive Style? Falchion? How 'bout a dervish? :D Maybe with some levels as a Thief Acrobat, if you want additional AC when fighting defensively? And, I'd add, even 3-5 levels as a scout, for uncanny dodge and some bonuses to damage and AC while dancing, maybe even evasion, that you could use to qualify for TA. Not optimal, but I guess conceptually it should fit... Scout and Thief Acrobat are in Complete Adventurer, the Dervish is in Complete Warrior.
Lina_Inverse 04-05-05, 10:19 AM	style doesnt beat function. if you dont want armor.and want to run into the melee.you can be less effective,or you can be a rogue with TWF.