Arcane class using Wis mod? [Archive] - Wizards Community

Arcane class using Wis mod? [Archive] - Wizards Community

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Vorsk
09-05-07, 01:45 AM I am looking for a Wizard or other arcane core class that uses the Wisdom attribute instead of Intellegence. Any ideas? The reason why I am starting to play an Arcane Heirophant.
Jaxgaret
09-05-07, 09:42 AM Deleted.
LoneFlame
09-05-07, 10:46 AM What you're looking for doesn't exist. Arcane is Int & Cha. Divine is Wis & Cha. Cha is the only common stat that could be used by Arcane & Divine casters. So, if you wanted Cha only for Divine & Arcane casters, you would be set.
goawayugh
09-05-07, 10:59 AM What you're looking for doesn't exist. Arcane is Int & Cha. Divine is Wis & Cha. Cha is the only common stat that could be used by Arcane & Divine casters. So, if you wanted Cha only for Divine & Arcane casters, you would be set.

Yup. Although, I'm not sure if there are any divine casters that use solely Cha. The Favored Soul uses both Wis and Cha, I think any divine casters that use Cha are like that too. Maybe I'm wrong, but I can't think of any right now...
LoneFlame
09-05-07, 11:10 AM I never could figure that one out either. It's very stupid. As such, my group and I tend to run those classes solely off of charisma(which doesn't actually do them any favors really).

On a sidenote, there is one spontaneous divine caster I know for a fact runs solely off of charisma, but I refuse to speak its name, cause it sucks.
Flamewarrior
09-05-07, 11:59 AM On a sidenote, there is one spontaneous divine caster I know for a fact runs solely off of charisma, but I refuse to speak its name, cause it sucks.Favored soul? IIRC, it has yet to (or rather, it won't) be thrown off the Top 10, simply because it's a full spellcaster.

What I'd really say is that, despite there being no Wis-based arcanist for some reason, there's an Int-based priest - the Heroes of Horror archivist; I know it doesn't help a lot now, but may help somebody looking for something to mix with wizard spellcasting.
Jaxgaret
09-05-07, 06:03 PM On a sidenote, there is one spontaneous divine caster I know for a fact runs solely off of charisma, but I refuse to speak its name, cause it sucks.

Shugenja!

Gesundheit ;)
Vorsk
09-06-07, 10:15 AM I've been thinking about this, and more and more it seems the feat Alternate Source Spell (Dragon #325) fullfills this need somewhat. The reason I say this is that it allows me to cast a Divine Fireball using my Wisdom modifier as a Druid for when DCs are calculated, instead of Int, but I would take a -1 caster level penalty for Fireball as a divine spell. This way I can keep a high DC using only one stat as a multiclassing spellcaster.

The same -1 caster level penalty would be applied for a Arcane Heal as my Wizard spell slot, except my Int modifier wouldn't matter so much when it came to DCs.

This seems logical, and a good way around this issue doesn't?

Post/Author/DateTime	Post
Vorsk 09-05-07, 01:45 AM	I am looking for a Wizard or other arcane core class that uses the Wisdom attribute instead of Intellegence. Any ideas? The reason why I am starting to play an Arcane Heirophant.
Jaxgaret 09-05-07, 09:42 AM	Deleted.
LoneFlame 09-05-07, 10:46 AM	What you're looking for doesn't exist. Arcane is Int & Cha. Divine is Wis & Cha. Cha is the only common stat that could be used by Arcane & Divine casters. So, if you wanted Cha only for Divine & Arcane casters, you would be set.
goawayugh 09-05-07, 10:59 AM	What you're looking for doesn't exist. Arcane is Int & Cha. Divine is Wis & Cha. Cha is the only common stat that could be used by Arcane & Divine casters. So, if you wanted Cha only for Divine & Arcane casters, you would be set. Yup. Although, I'm not sure if there are any divine casters that use solely Cha. The Favored Soul uses both Wis and Cha, I think any divine casters that use Cha are like that too. Maybe I'm wrong, but I can't think of any right now...
LoneFlame 09-05-07, 11:10 AM	I never could figure that one out either. It's very stupid. As such, my group and I tend to run those classes solely off of charisma(which doesn't actually do them any favors really). On a sidenote, there is one spontaneous divine caster I know for a fact runs solely off of charisma, but I refuse to speak its name, cause it sucks.
Flamewarrior 09-05-07, 11:59 AM	On a sidenote, there is one spontaneous divine caster I know for a fact runs solely off of charisma, but I refuse to speak its name, cause it sucks.Favored soul? IIRC, it has yet to (or rather, it won't) be thrown off the Top 10, simply because it's a full spellcaster. What I'd really say is that, despite there being no Wis-based arcanist for some reason, there's an Int-based priest - the Heroes of Horror archivist; I know it doesn't help a lot now, but may help somebody looking for something to mix with wizard spellcasting.
Jaxgaret 09-05-07, 06:03 PM	On a sidenote, there is one spontaneous divine caster I know for a fact runs solely off of charisma, but I refuse to speak its name, cause it sucks. Shugenja! Gesundheit ;)
Vorsk 09-06-07, 10:15 AM	I've been thinking about this, and more and more it seems the feat Alternate Source Spell (Dragon #325) fullfills this need somewhat. The reason I say this is that it allows me to cast a Divine Fireball using my Wisdom modifier as a Druid for when DCs are calculated, instead of Int, but I would take a -1 caster level penalty for Fireball as a divine spell. This way I can keep a high DC using only one stat as a multiclassing spellcaster. The same -1 caster level penalty would be applied for a Arcane Heal as my Wizard spell slot, except my Int modifier wouldn't matter so much when it came to DCs. This seems logical, and a good way around this issue doesn't?