Arcane Cleric? [Archive] - Wizards Community

Arcane Cleric? [Archive] - Wizards Community

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blackjackg
11-12-06, 01:20 PM Hey folks,

Does anyone know of a class that is an arcane caster, but prepares and casts as a cleric (that is, every morning, selects spells from a predetermined list). I've been hunting around and I can't find one. Essentially, I'm looking for a version of the wizard that fits into a culture of oral tradition, rather than written. I suppose I could use an Int-based Sorcerer, but if you have any suggestions, it might not come to that. Thanks!
Nachtwind
11-12-06, 01:37 PM Well the closest I know would be warmage(CA) or beguiler(PHBII), they both cast spells like a sorcerer, but have all spells for a given lvl on their lists available instead of choosing some of them each lvl...

Edit: Since you mentioned the key ability

Warmage: Charisma
Beguiler: Intelligenz

And forgot the Dread necromancer(HOH) same concept key ability: Charisma
Jaxgaret
11-12-06, 01:39 PM Deleted.
DreamerInsane
11-12-06, 01:41 PM Beguilers, Dread Necromancers and Warmagi are essentially specialized Sorcerers who automatically know all spells on their spell lists, and can cast in Light Armour.

Would that work for you?

EDIT: Nachtwind beat me to it.
Manyfist
11-12-06, 01:56 PM Get rainbow servant, and you can cast both Arcane and Divine spells.
under lord
11-12-06, 05:04 PM Whats a rainbow servant?
Manyfist
11-12-06, 05:12 PM Whats a rainbow servant?
PrC in CDiv. You worship the Coutals and they give you Arcane magic. I think a Psionic version that gives you Divine spell casting or Arcane spell casting but non the hassles would work. Any who, its in CDiv.
jamesnero
11-12-06, 05:20 PM take a normal cleric worship Mystra grab the magic and spell domains and BEHOLD! the arcane cleric:dancin:
Rixuzalthu
11-12-06, 05:27 PM In Dragon 311, September 2003 an Arcane Disciple was presented. Its a cleric class that can chose one acrcane spell per level to add to thier divine spell list. They get a bonus feat every 5 levels and have HD=d6. Its not exactly what you asked for, but might be worth a look.
Eyeless Blond
11-12-06, 06:00 PM PrC in CDiv. You worship the Coutals and they give you Arcane magic. I think a Psionic version that gives you Divine spell casting or Arcane spell casting but non the hassles would work. Any who, its in CDiv.
Er, Rainbow Servant is an arcane class that grants access to cleric spells, not the other way around. And it's not really a good class either; you have to give up four caster levels over the course of the class, which is entirely unacceptable unless you're playing gestalt.
Xylem
11-13-06, 01:23 AM Hey folks,

Does anyone know of a class that is an arcane caster, but prepares and casts as a cleric (that is, every morning, selects spells from a predetermined list). I've been hunting around and I can't find one. Essentially, I'm looking for a version of the wizard that fits into a culture of oral tradition, rather than written. I suppose I could use an Int-based Sorcerer, but if you have any suggestions, it might not come to that. Thanks!
Are you limiting your request to WotC-published classes, or are you including 3rd party material or even classes posted on this board? I do not believe there is an official WotC class that meets your requirements, unless it is in a setting specific book (which I personally don't buy).
blackjackg
11-13-06, 02:22 AM Wow, thanks for the input. I think I might go with a modified Warmage, as that's the closest thing to what I had envisioned.

Xylem: I was thinking WotC material, but if you know of anything from other sources, I'd love to hear it.

Thanks again for all your suggestions. Also, if anybody knows of classes like these that have been proposed on the boards, I'm open to that.
Xylem
11-13-06, 09:26 AM Xylem: I was thinking WotC material, but if you know of anything from other sources, I'd love to hear it.

Thanks again for all your suggestions. Also, if anybody knows of classes like these that have been proposed on the boards, I'm open to that.
There have been a few things on the boards that might be closer to what you were asking for, but the only one I can find right now is the one I did called The Intuitive (http://boards1.wizards.com/showthread.php?t=657625) .

You might find some of the old class compendiums helpful. I found these with a quick google (ah, new verbs!): The Core Class Compendium (http://boards1.wizards.com/showthread.php?t=197561), The New Improved Class Compendium (http://boards1.wizards.com/showthread.php?t=674770) and The Second Core Class Compendium (http://boards1.wizards.com/showthread.php?t=519526). There are tons of spellcaster classes in there -- perhaps one is exactly what you are looking for.
Yorath_theWolf
11-13-06, 01:33 PM Er, Rainbow Servant is an arcane class that grants access to cleric spells, not the other way around. And it's not really a good class either; you have to give up four caster levels over the course of the class, which is entirely unacceptable unless you're playing gestalt.
Nope, text beats tables and the text says you don't lose anything, sooo Warmage is actually a pretty good choice that way.

Post/Author/DateTime	Post
blackjackg 11-12-06, 01:20 PM	Hey folks, Does anyone know of a class that is an arcane caster, but prepares and casts as a cleric (that is, every morning, selects spells from a predetermined list). I've been hunting around and I can't find one. Essentially, I'm looking for a version of the wizard that fits into a culture of oral tradition, rather than written. I suppose I could use an Int-based Sorcerer, but if you have any suggestions, it might not come to that. Thanks!
Nachtwind 11-12-06, 01:37 PM	Well the closest I know would be warmage(CA) or beguiler(PHBII), they both cast spells like a sorcerer, but have all spells for a given lvl on their lists available instead of choosing some of them each lvl... Edit: Since you mentioned the key ability Warmage: Charisma Beguiler: Intelligenz And forgot the Dread necromancer(HOH) same concept key ability: Charisma
Jaxgaret 11-12-06, 01:39 PM	Deleted.
DreamerInsane 11-12-06, 01:41 PM	Beguilers, Dread Necromancers and Warmagi are essentially specialized Sorcerers who automatically know all spells on their spell lists, and can cast in Light Armour. Would that work for you? EDIT: Nachtwind beat me to it.
Manyfist 11-12-06, 01:56 PM	Get rainbow servant, and you can cast both Arcane and Divine spells.
under lord 11-12-06, 05:04 PM	Whats a rainbow servant?
Manyfist 11-12-06, 05:12 PM	Whats a rainbow servant? PrC in CDiv. You worship the Coutals and they give you Arcane magic. I think a Psionic version that gives you Divine spell casting or Arcane spell casting but non the hassles would work. Any who, its in CDiv.
jamesnero 11-12-06, 05:20 PM	take a normal cleric worship Mystra grab the magic and spell domains and BEHOLD! the arcane cleric:dancin:
Rixuzalthu 11-12-06, 05:27 PM	In Dragon 311, September 2003 an Arcane Disciple was presented. Its a cleric class that can chose one acrcane spell per level to add to thier divine spell list. They get a bonus feat every 5 levels and have HD=d6. Its not exactly what you asked for, but might be worth a look.
Eyeless Blond 11-12-06, 06:00 PM	PrC in CDiv. You worship the Coutals and they give you Arcane magic. I think a Psionic version that gives you Divine spell casting or Arcane spell casting but non the hassles would work. Any who, its in CDiv. Er, Rainbow Servant is an arcane class that grants access to cleric spells, not the other way around. And it's not really a good class either; you have to give up four caster levels over the course of the class, which is entirely unacceptable unless you're playing gestalt.
Xylem 11-13-06, 01:23 AM	Hey folks, Does anyone know of a class that is an arcane caster, but prepares and casts as a cleric (that is, every morning, selects spells from a predetermined list). I've been hunting around and I can't find one. Essentially, I'm looking for a version of the wizard that fits into a culture of oral tradition, rather than written. I suppose I could use an Int-based Sorcerer, but if you have any suggestions, it might not come to that. Thanks! Are you limiting your request to WotC-published classes, or are you including 3rd party material or even classes posted on this board? I do not believe there is an official WotC class that meets your requirements, unless it is in a setting specific book (which I personally don't buy).
blackjackg 11-13-06, 02:22 AM	Wow, thanks for the input. I think I might go with a modified Warmage, as that's the closest thing to what I had envisioned. Xylem: I was thinking WotC material, but if you know of anything from other sources, I'd love to hear it. Thanks again for all your suggestions. Also, if anybody knows of classes like these that have been proposed on the boards, I'm open to that.
Xylem 11-13-06, 09:26 AM	Xylem: I was thinking WotC material, but if you know of anything from other sources, I'd love to hear it. Thanks again for all your suggestions. Also, if anybody knows of classes like these that have been proposed on the boards, I'm open to that. There have been a few things on the boards that might be closer to what you were asking for, but the only one I can find right now is the one I did called The Intuitive (http://boards1.wizards.com/showthread.php?t=657625) . You might find some of the old class compendiums helpful. I found these with a quick google (ah, new verbs!): The Core Class Compendium (http://boards1.wizards.com/showthread.php?t=197561), The New Improved Class Compendium (http://boards1.wizards.com/showthread.php?t=674770) and The Second Core Class Compendium (http://boards1.wizards.com/showthread.php?t=519526). There are tons of spellcaster classes in there -- perhaps one is exactly what you are looking for.
Yorath_theWolf 11-13-06, 01:33 PM	Er, Rainbow Servant is an arcane class that grants access to cleric spells, not the other way around. And it's not really a good class either; you have to give up four caster levels over the course of the class, which is entirely unacceptable unless you're playing gestalt. Nope, text beats tables and the text says you don't lose anything, sooo Warmage is actually a pretty good choice that way.