Archmage and his high arcana : Spell-like Ability [Archive] - Wizards Community

Archmage and his high arcana : Spell-like Ability [Archive] - Wizards Community

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Vierda
08-16-06, 08:53 PM hey there :D
sorry, if something similar has been asked before,just refere to the other thred
(yes, we used the search button ;) )

according to DMG (pg. 178-179): The Archmage could abandon a 5th lvl spell slot to cast a spell as a spell like ability twice per/day.
We're wondering if you could sacrifice a 5th lvl spell slot and get a 5+lvl spell as a spell like ability.

Should that be true:
Would i be able to use this ability twice per/day for that particular spell ( even if its eg.: a lvl 9th spell ) ?
Does this use of my "new" spell like ability count against my spells/day?

Many thanks
DM Zoc
08-16-06, 09:29 PM Yes, you could use one of your ninth level spell slots to gain use of a ninth level spell as a spell-like ability twice per day. This would count as one of your spells per day.
Vierda
08-16-06, 10:04 PM well, i don't really see any disadvantages about getting a lvl 9th spell-like ability if i could use it twice.
maybe i got something wrong and you guys can help me dfinately out ^^

p.s.: sry for that bad english, it isn't my mother tongue.

tnx again
Seerow
08-16-06, 10:08 PM Well it's a prestige class ability. They tend to not have many disadvantages compared to advantages.
Vierda
08-16-06, 10:12 PM i don't have my books at hand, but i think that would be about 12 lvl 9 spells or more ( considering the bonus spells etc) ... that would be a bit overpowered ... at least i think it would be :)
TheAnthroDM
08-16-06, 10:45 PM The point of this is quite simple

lets take this example
-5th level Spell Slot
-Slot it would take up to cast a Maximized Fireball

You loose two spell slots and gain the spell like ability as a permanat spell the two main advantages of this are
A) You can now cast a 9th(or 8th,7th,6th) Spell at the cost of giving up a lower spell slot(5th) and it's normal spell slot(w/e)
and
B)The Advatages Spell-like abilites have towards Spells

There is no disadvantage besides slightly less versitility =P
runestar
08-17-06, 12:38 AM You give up 2 slots to be able to use a SLA 2/day(or more, depending on which option you choose).

That's the tradeoff. Power at the expense of versatility. You have less slots to prepare your spells, which means a smaller variety of spells available to you at any 1 time. :)

Post/Author/DateTime	Post
Vierda 08-16-06, 08:53 PM	hey there :D sorry, if something similar has been asked before,just refere to the other thred (yes, we used the search button ;) ) according to DMG (pg. 178-179): The Archmage could abandon a 5th lvl spell slot to cast a spell as a spell like ability twice per/day. We're wondering if you could sacrifice a 5th lvl spell slot and get a 5+lvl spell as a spell like ability. Should that be true: Would i be able to use this ability twice per/day for that particular spell ( even if its eg.: a lvl 9th spell ) ? Does this use of my "new" spell like ability count against my spells/day? Many thanks
DM Zoc 08-16-06, 09:29 PM	Yes, you could use one of your ninth level spell slots to gain use of a ninth level spell as a spell-like ability twice per day. This would count as one of your spells per day.
Vierda 08-16-06, 10:04 PM	well, i don't really see any disadvantages about getting a lvl 9th spell-like ability if i could use it twice. maybe i got something wrong and you guys can help me dfinately out ^^ p.s.: sry for that bad english, it isn't my mother tongue. tnx again
Seerow 08-16-06, 10:08 PM	Well it's a prestige class ability. They tend to not have many disadvantages compared to advantages.
Vierda 08-16-06, 10:12 PM	i don't have my books at hand, but i think that would be about 12 lvl 9 spells or more ( considering the bonus spells etc) ... that would be a bit overpowered ... at least i think it would be :)
TheAnthroDM 08-16-06, 10:45 PM	The point of this is quite simple lets take this example -5th level Spell Slot -Slot it would take up to cast a Maximized Fireball You loose two spell slots and gain the spell like ability as a permanat spell the two main advantages of this are A) You can now cast a 9th(or 8th,7th,6th) Spell at the cost of giving up a lower spell slot(5th) and it's normal spell slot(w/e) and B)The Advatages Spell-like abilites have towards Spells There is no disadvantage besides slightly less versitility =P
runestar 08-17-06, 12:38 AM	You give up 2 slots to be able to use a SLA 2/day(or more, depending on which option you choose). That's the tradeoff. Power at the expense of versatility. You have less slots to prepare your spells, which means a smaller variety of spells available to you at any 1 time. :)