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klode_me 04-25-05, 01:21 PM	i hate that LA also removes character levels, i really think i want to be something weird, does anyone have a good idea? does anyone know a race with +2 cha +2 wis. -2 str or dex or con, and 0 LA, because then i think i just go 20 healer or favored soul or spirit shaman. Thanks in advance. Klode_me
Jell_Moo 04-25-05, 02:24 PM	Let's see... The Vanara from OA have a +2 Int +2 Wis and -2 Str... That's close. Some of the Anthropomorphic Animals from Savage Species give a bonus to Wisdom... Only the Wolverine has a bonus to both Wis and Cha, but he eats a LA. Races with a LA +0 and a bonus to a mental stat are pretty rare. Bonuses to 2 mental stats is almost unheard of. The best in my opinion is the Saint template from BoED. Amazing stat bonuses and a slew of other goodies. LA +2 unfortunately, but well worth it.
klode_me 04-25-05, 02:29 PM	Let's see... The Vanara from OA have a +2 Int +2 Wis and -2 Str... That's close. Some of the Anthropomorphic Animals from Savage Species give a bonus to Wisdom... Only the Wolverine has a bonus to both Wis and Cha, but he eats a LA. Races with a LA +0 and a bonus to a mental stat are pretty rare. Bonuses to 2 mental stats is almost unheard of. The best in my opinion is the Saint template from BoED. Amazing stat bonuses and a slew of other goodies. LA +2 unfortunately, but well worth it. What about this: a human werebear with some levels in Fighter, ranger or even cleric, and five levels in Warshaper (and maybe vow of poverty). But i am going to check the saint template right away. Edit: the saint template is very nice, but i donīt know if my DM would allow it.
Jell_Moo 04-25-05, 03:00 PM	Most DM's won't allow the Saint template simply because it's way too good. If it is allowed, expect plenty of strings attached. The LA for a Werebear is pretty intense. +2 for afflicted or +3 for natural, and then you add the hitdice of the base creature. 3 in the case of the Werebear. It's pretty ugly. I don't think that a Cleric is a good idea under these circumstances. Fighter or Ranger is a better choice, with Barbarian being top of the line to head into Warshaper.
ReadError 04-25-05, 03:07 PM	The closest race is Aasimar, +2 wis and +2 cha, but +1 LA, it's a native outsider so it's not affected by humanoid only spells like charm person. In FR player's guide to faerun, there's a description for lesser planetouched races that would remove the LA, not sure if your DM will allow it though.
klode_me 04-25-05, 03:36 PM	Most DM's won't allow the Saint template simply because it's way too good. If it is allowed, expect plenty of strings attached. The LA for a Werebear is pretty intense. +2 for afflicted or +3 for natural, and then you add the hitdice of the base creature. 3 in the case of the Werebear. It's pretty ugly. I don't think that a Cleric is a good idea under these circumstances. Fighter or Ranger is a better choice, with Barbarian being top of the line to head into Warshaper. But there is a problem about this: werebears are always lawful good.
crazysamaritan 04-25-05, 03:40 PM	i really think i want to be something weird, does anyone have a good idea? be a warlock or a bezerker (note: you don't have to take the class) how does race factor into it?
DM Denubis 04-25-05, 03:49 PM	It feels like I say this twice daily. Lesser aasimar! It's basically an aasimar with a LA +0. Check it out in Player's Guide to Faerun.
ReadError 04-25-05, 10:22 PM	It feels like I say this twice daily. Lesser aasimar! It's basically an aasimar with a LA +0. Check it out in Player's Guide to Faerun. Look above a little, that's what I said ...
klode_me 04-26-05, 12:52 AM	i have already checked the lesser aasimar, it is alright, but i really donīt know if i want to be it, iīll see.
klode_me 04-26-05, 01:00 AM	Sorry for doublepost, but: we have 1 battle sor./ dragon deciple (Paladin/cavaliar, right now), and one rogue/peerless archer, and a sor./spell sword, so maybe i should be someone who could fight, but we also need a healer.