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roderickvd 01-21-07, 07:08 AM	Hey everybody! I'm looking to adapt the PHB2 dragon shaman class to fit in a fang dragon as totem dragon. The PHB2 hints at its possibility but does not provide any solutions. Reaching a solution seems troublesome because the fang dragon has a ability draining bite instead of a breath weapon and doesn't have an "energy type" like true dragons do. Here's my attempt at modification, looking forward to your reactions: Additional Class Skills: Bluff, Jump, Survival. (This I'm sure of; see the PGtF Web Enhancement.) Draconic Auras: Energy Shield: Any creature striking you or your ally with a natural attack or a nonreach melee weapon is dealt 2 points of temporary Constitution damage for each point of your aura bonus. Resistance: Resistance to temporary Constitution damage and permanent Constitution drain equal to +5 times your aura bonus. Draconic Adaptation: Ventriloquism (Sp): As the spell (at will). Replace Breath Weapon with Ability Drain (Su): At 4th level, you pick up the Fang Dragon's bite that permanently drains Constitution points if you are grappling. While grappling, you can attempt to damage your opponent for the standard nonlethal damage, while at the same time draining a number of Constitution points equal to 1d3, plus 1d2 for every two additional class levels. A successful Fortitude save negates the drain; the save DC is equal to 8 + 1/2 your dragon shaman level + your Con modifier. Energy Immunity: At 9th level, you gain immunity to temporary Constitution damage and permanent Constitution drain. A few quick notes: 662862 suggests giving the fang dragon shaman a tail. I think that'd be too much of a physical change: the shaman isn't a half-dragon or such. Finally, I liked the idea of the fang dragon "pecking" his prey and converting his bite to a humanoid character, but some threads suggested that a human jaw just wasn't fit for dealing damage that way, and that it'd be better to opt for grappling damage. Hence the bite while grappling. So what do you think?
Derren S. 01-21-07, 10:59 AM	Does the energy shield do damage which each attack? If yes it seems very powerfull to me. At higher level a full attack would easily cause 10 consititution damage.
helixrat 01-21-07, 08:20 PM	I was thinking that the constitution damage is extremely high as well. 10 Con damage/hit your opponent lands on you would be brutal. I'm not familiar with the Fang Dragon, but it sounds slightly evil. Maybe you could make it Unholy/Holy damage based on the alignment. Then make the resistance for the alignment, or possibly the opposite alignment. So the evil fang dragon shaman has resistance to good damage, or some such thing. Now if the dragon is neutral (I have no idea), then I'm just typing for the sake of typing.
periscope 01-21-07, 10:59 PM	Id just give it a bite that does con damage along with its damage+2 claw attacks. A bite and claws arent going to set you to far apart from everybody else as long as you keep it under control.
roderickvd 01-22-07, 01:46 PM	Thanks for your feedback. A bit of discussion over at EN World revealed the same points you're making, and in the end the following came out. I'm liking it! How about it: Additional Class Skills: Bluff, Jump, Survival Draconic Auras (Su): Replace Energy Shield with Vengeful Shield: Any creature striking you or your ally with a natural attack or a nonreach melee weapon is dealt 1 hp damage for each point of your aura bonus. Resistance: When you or your ally are dealt Constitution damage or drain, reduce the Constitution points damaged or drained by a number equal to your aura bonus, to a minimum of 0. Draconic Adaptation: Ventriloquism (Sp): As the spell (at will). Replace Breath Weapon with Wounding Strike (Su): At 4th level, you pick up the Fang Dragon's ability to deal Constitution damage or even drain Constitution points. On a successful melee attack, you may decide to use your wounding strike. If you do, you deal damage as normal as well as damage a number of Constitution points equal to two times your aura bonus. On a successful critical attack, the points damaged turn into points drained. After having used your wounding strike, you have to wait 1d4 rounds before you can use it again. Energy Immunity: At 9th level, you gain immunity to temporary Constitution damage and permanent Constitution drain.
KoreKore 01-22-07, 03:26 PM	I was actually thinking about this what about the otehr dragons. Mainly the battle, shadow, and styx dragons. How would these be done?