Post/Author/DateTime	Post
Stule 08-11-05, 04:28 PM	Is this class cheesy or what? :P
Surreal 08-11-05, 05:05 PM	And your point is...? The FB serves a very simple purpose, and it performs that duty exceptionally well as long as you stay out of the way. Beyond that, you role play the character as you see fit.
slade_caizer 08-11-05, 05:09 PM	Is this class cheesy or what? :P Not really. Just powerful.
seng3 08-11-05, 09:23 PM	Is this class cheesy or what? :P When someone says the Fighters are doing enough damage, they usually use the Berserker as an example. The Improve and Supreme Power Attack is usually good enough. Others includes the Hulk Hurler which most also considered broken..
rampant 08-12-05, 12:45 AM	whats cheesy is charging with leap attack and supreme power attack for a grand total of 8 points of damage per point of accuracy sacrificed more on a crit, keen great falchions anyone
fafhrdthered333 08-12-05, 08:57 AM	no
Trevor Goodchild 08-12-05, 01:04 PM	Actually, if wielding a two handed weapon on leap attack, you get +12 for every sacrificed point of accuracy. Add that on to Combat Brute from CW, and you get +36 for every point if you follow the steps for the Momentum Swing. Of course you only get the +36 if you take a -5 or worse, but if using the Greater Frenzy, it's completely negated by the +10 you would recieve to strength. I don't know the stats for a greater falcion, but even without the regular weapon damage, you're doing a minimum of 180 damage if everything goes right.
Rulebook 08-12-05, 01:15 PM	unless youve read the errata... basically it'd be GPW+leap attack= 7:1 still badass, but not overly broken. remember, the earliest you could do this is at 15th+ level, and a one-hit-kill pony dosent cut it anymore at those levels. (it blinks, you miss, then strikes you for 10 intellegence damage or something. goodbye mr frenzied berzerker)
general.Muse 08-18-05, 09:15 PM	Actually, if wielding a two handed weapon on leap attack, you get +12 for every sacrificed point of accuracy. Add that on to Combat Brute from CW, and you get +36 for every point if you follow the steps for the Momentum Swing. Of course you only get the +36 if you take a -5 or worse, but if using the Greater Frenzy, it's completely negated by the +10 you would recieve to strength. I don't know the stats for a greater falcion, but even without the regular weapon damage, you're doing a minimum of 180 damage if everything goes right. No. Read the feat again, it gives you a bonus to dmg. according to the attack roll penalty you suffer, meaning that it ignores the better ratio from leap attack and supreme power attack.
Krug_the_smasher 08-18-05, 11:26 PM	wow i didnt know that this PrC was so powerful...i was planning on taking it for a half ogre barb but he died.... Actually, if wielding a two handed weapon on leap attack, you get +12 for every sacrificed point of accuracy. Add that on to Combat Brute from CW, and you get +36 for every point if you follow the steps for the Momentum Swing. Of course you only get the +36 if you take a -5 or worse, but if using the Greater Frenzy, it's completely negated by the +10 you would recieve to strength. I don't know the stats for a greater falcion, but even without the regular weapon damage, you're doing a minimum of 180 damage if everything goes right. Is this true?? like min 180? Holy $#it that is insane! what lvl can this be done at? :mymy: Plus the extra attack with the Frenzy is nice, and Deathless Frenzy to boot! and if you rage with greater frenzy and have instantanious rage, you could seriously do some major damage. it would add +14 to Str and you could still attack in the first/bonus round. And if you are in a pack of FB's you could all use "inspire Frenzy" and evryone within a 10ft radius of the frenzied person would get DOUBLE frenzy bonus. like +20 str and 2 extra attacks each round. Yes thats right. it doesnt say they dont stack, so that means they will! Correct me if i am wrong but that is the way i play it. :devil:
furious kender 08-19-05, 07:24 PM	But then there is the whole going crazy and killing the party thing when you step on the trap. Hence, the downside of the FB.