barbarian and armor [Archive] - Wizards Community

barbarian and armor [Archive] - Wizards Community

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bushwak
01-06-04, 12:52 AM PHB pg. 25:

regarding a barbarian's fast movement ability, the PHB states that the benefit only applies when a barbarian is wearing no armor, light armor or medium armor and not carrying a heavy load.

it then gives the example of a human barbarian wearing no or light armor having a move of 40...but when wearing medium armor OR carrying a heavy load he would have a movement of 30.

there is also an example of a halfling barbarian having a move of 30 with no/light armor, and a 20 move with medium armor OR a heavy load.

does this make any sense? in the 1st paragraph they clearly state that a barbarian can apply his additional movement when wearing no, light, or medium armor. the only time the benefit would not apply would be when he was carrying a heavy load...but the examples they use counteract this.

so...which is it?
Inigo Carmine
01-06-04, 07:29 AM medium armor (and loads) slow you down. A human barbarian moving 30 ft in medium armor is still moving faster than normal. A normal human in medium armor will move at 20 ft. Likewise, a normal halfling in medium armor will be moving 15 ft. but a halfling barbarian in medium armor moves faster (20 ft).
bushwak
01-06-04, 02:01 PM aha...gotcha.

i don't know why i didn't see that...DUH.
pascalnz
01-06-04, 02:12 PM and dwarves in medium armour go 30foot?
Talok
01-06-04, 03:42 PM A dwarf barabarian in medium armor would have a speed of 30 ft. Other dwarves would have a speed of 20 ft in medium armor.
Robert rath
01-06-04, 04:36 PM Wouldn't dwarf barbarians be at 25 ft because thier base speed is 20 and would be 15 in med/hvy armor?
Inigo Carmine
01-06-04, 07:31 PM Originally posted by Robert rath
Wouldn't dwarf barbarians be at 25 ft because thier base speed is 20 and would be 15 in med/hvy armor?

No. That logic is incorrect anyways, because a barbarian's fast movement effects his actual base movement speed (aka, his speed before you put the armor on).

A dwarf's base speed is 20. Barbarian fast movement adds 10 to it, so now it's up to 30. medium/heavy armor/load would normally drop this by 1/3 (back to 20) except a dwarf's speed is not effected by encumbrance or armor. So it remains 30.

Post/Author/DateTime	Post
bushwak 01-06-04, 12:52 AM	PHB pg. 25: regarding a barbarian's fast movement ability, the PHB states that the benefit only applies when a barbarian is wearing no armor, light armor or medium armor and not carrying a heavy load. it then gives the example of a human barbarian wearing no or light armor having a move of 40...but when wearing medium armor OR carrying a heavy load he would have a movement of 30. there is also an example of a halfling barbarian having a move of 30 with no/light armor, and a 20 move with medium armor OR a heavy load. does this make any sense? in the 1st paragraph they clearly state that a barbarian can apply his additional movement when wearing no, light, or medium armor. the only time the benefit would not apply would be when he was carrying a heavy load...but the examples they use counteract this. so...which is it?
Inigo Carmine 01-06-04, 07:29 AM	medium armor (and loads) slow you down. A human barbarian moving 30 ft in medium armor is still moving faster than normal. A normal human in medium armor will move at 20 ft. Likewise, a normal halfling in medium armor will be moving 15 ft. but a halfling barbarian in medium armor moves faster (20 ft).
bushwak 01-06-04, 02:01 PM	aha...gotcha. i don't know why i didn't see that...DUH.
pascalnz 01-06-04, 02:12 PM	and dwarves in medium armour go 30foot?
Talok 01-06-04, 03:42 PM	A dwarf barabarian in medium armor would have a speed of 30 ft. Other dwarves would have a speed of 20 ft in medium armor.
Robert rath 01-06-04, 04:36 PM	Wouldn't dwarf barbarians be at 25 ft because thier base speed is 20 and would be 15 in med/hvy armor?
Inigo Carmine 01-06-04, 07:31 PM	Originally posted by Robert rath Wouldn't dwarf barbarians be at 25 ft because thier base speed is 20 and would be 15 in med/hvy armor? No. That logic is incorrect anyways, because a barbarian's fast movement effects his actual base movement speed (aka, his speed before you put the armor on). A dwarf's base speed is 20. Barbarian fast movement adds 10 to it, so now it's up to 30. medium/heavy armor/load would normally drop this by 1/3 (back to 20) except a dwarf's speed is not effected by encumbrance or armor. So it remains 30.