Barbarian or Fighter or bard? [Archive] - Wizards Community

Barbarian or Fighter or bard? [Archive] - Wizards Community

Post/Author/DateTime Post
Red Fire
10-29-05, 01:39 AM Need some help here. My friends and I are gonna campaign soon, and I need a new character. I have some classes that I want to be, but I can't choose. I want to be....

1. A fighter-Half orc or Dwarf

2. A barbarian-Half orc, Dwarf or human

3. A Bard- halfling, human or hengeyokai

Which class/race combo should I be? I need to know what would work best together.
allenchan
10-29-05, 01:43 AM I'd be inclined towards dwarf/human. No reason you cant take both fighter AND barbarian, either. Barb 1/Fighter 4 is a great start to most melee builds.
Red Fire
10-29-05, 01:47 AM As much as I like those odds, the #1 rule in this campaign is no multi-classing which sucks.
allenchan
10-29-05, 01:51 AM As much as I like those odds, the #1 rule in this campaign is no multi-classing which sucks.
:eek:

And you're playing in it... why?
Red Fire
10-29-05, 01:55 AM Because my friends are playing in it. Unless I can get special permission, then I can't multiclass, but then again alot of people who are creating new classes. I am being a traditional class and so are a few other new comers like me. I'm by the book and I like it
rampant
10-29-05, 04:02 AM Multiclass is by the book its right there after the wizard

if you have acess to complete arcane and warrior get a skill full weapon and the arcane strike feat for a devilish melee bard

plz tell me you can prestige class if so take levels as sublime cord as soon as you can

finally pick up snowflake wardance from forst burn

now do a little jig and watch the gore fly
fire-blade
10-29-05, 07:25 AM take a barbarian orc... a +4 to str is very nice :)
SilverFoxKnows
10-29-05, 12:52 PM a Dwarven Barbarian. I wouldn't worry too much about being stuck with one class so long as you and your friends are having fun. A single class Barb can still be a valuable member of the party. How you build him will depend on what the rest of your party is like.

For instance, I took Track as my first Feat, and here's why. It was a party of three (BattleSorc, Druid and me). No Ranger. A large portion of our adventures were/are outside of cities. I gave up some damage dealing by not taking Power Attack but we've been able to avoid some ambushes and chase down foes who escaped because I was able to find tracks. I still think that's a fair trade off.

Who will your backup be? A tank, an archer, a wizard? If you're alone on the front lines, and have to be the tank, your weapons/armor may not be the same as if you were the skirmisher (Fast Movement :D ) fighting alongside two tanked Fighters.

My final advice, play what calls out to you. Be adaptable. Have fun.
Red Fire
10-29-05, 03:10 PM Hmm...I'm liking what I'm hearing. I've been reading the Characters with Class articles about the three classes and comparing weaknesses and strengths.
Mesel
10-29-05, 03:18 PM Well, to decide what you will be, I have a sugestion.

Look at the group's characters.

If the team have no fighters, you should be one.

If the team have a fighter but no other combat oriented character, you should be a barbarian.

If the team have both a fighter and other combat oriented character, you should be a bard.

That's what me thinks.

I, personaly, like bards more than barbarians and fighters. Bards have a great role-playing and good enchament/illusion spells (my favorite schools of spells), and many skills.
Red Fire
10-29-05, 03:23 PM So far I know that we have a ninja, an alchemist (created class), and a couple of dragoons (also a created class), there are a fwe others were I don't know what class they're gonna be. I think we are going to have a fighter.
DrowSmurf
10-29-05, 03:52 PM well what level are you starting at? if its lvl1 then i would go with barbarian... its around lvl4 i would go with fighter... if i think around lvl10-13 go with bard

if you are a barbarian.. go for half-orc or halfling(i had an awesome time playing one)

if you are a fighter.. go for human, you get another feat so you are more skilled in combat and more skill points which can help with out of combat situations

with bard... its tough... can you chose subraces? go for umm gray elf... +2int +2cha -2con and if not go for gnome or halfling... perhaps half-elf
Averroes
10-29-05, 03:58 PM What book is the Gray elf in?
I remeber the race from 2ed. and I liked it alot, but I have not seen it since 3.
TheraerTheWanderingBard
10-29-05, 04:22 PM with bard... its tough... can you chose subraces? go for umm gray elf... +2int +2cha -2con and if not go for gnome or halfling... perhaps half-elf

Umm...gray elf is +2 Int +2 Dex -2 Str -2 Con

from the SRD

Gray Elf
Taller and grander in physical appearance than others of their race, gray elves have a reputation for being aloof and arrogant (even by elven standards). They have either silver hair and amber eyes or pale golden hair and violet eyes. They prefer clothing of white, silver, yellow, or gold, with cloaks of deep blue or purple.
Gray Elf Traits (Ex): These traits are in addition to the high elf traits.
— +2 Intelligence, –2 Strength.

Your thinking of Drow, they get +2 Cha and Int
DrowSmurf
10-29-05, 05:11 PM from the Kingdoms of Kalamar Players Guide page 3

Elf, Grey +2Int +2Cha -2Con Favored Class Wizard

this book is also home of the 0LA drow... +2int -2con

from this book Forest Gnome has +2cha +2wis -2str
Red Fire
10-29-05, 08:59 PM Can someone give me the specs for a Dwarf and a Barbarian so I can complete my character sheet? I don't have the book, but I've borrowed it in the past from friends who do have it.
serow_#R
10-29-05, 09:52 PM Can someone give me the specs for a Dwarf and a Barbarian so I can complete my character sheet? I don't have the book, but I've borrowed it in the past from friends who do have it.

here:
http://www.d20srd.org
it's under Core SRD, Races and Classes sections, respectively
Timlagor
10-29-05, 10:14 PM No multi-classing but you can create your own class?

I don't get it
Just create a class that IS a multi-class combination.
Red Fire
10-30-05, 12:56 AM Thanks alot that really helps. The only thing I don't have is a list of feats and skill point costs.
Ravenson
10-30-05, 06:38 PM www.d20srd.org again, m'friend

Post/Author/DateTime	Post
Red Fire 10-29-05, 01:39 AM	Need some help here. My friends and I are gonna campaign soon, and I need a new character. I have some classes that I want to be, but I can't choose. I want to be.... 1. A fighter-Half orc or Dwarf 2. A barbarian-Half orc, Dwarf or human 3. A Bard- halfling, human or hengeyokai Which class/race combo should I be? I need to know what would work best together.
allenchan 10-29-05, 01:43 AM	I'd be inclined towards dwarf/human. No reason you cant take both fighter AND barbarian, either. Barb 1/Fighter 4 is a great start to most melee builds.
Red Fire 10-29-05, 01:47 AM	As much as I like those odds, the #1 rule in this campaign is no multi-classing which sucks.
allenchan 10-29-05, 01:51 AM	As much as I like those odds, the #1 rule in this campaign is no multi-classing which sucks. :eek: And you're playing in it... why?
Red Fire 10-29-05, 01:55 AM	Because my friends are playing in it. Unless I can get special permission, then I can't multiclass, but then again alot of people who are creating new classes. I am being a traditional class and so are a few other new comers like me. I'm by the book and I like it
rampant 10-29-05, 04:02 AM	Multiclass is by the book its right there after the wizard if you have acess to complete arcane and warrior get a skill full weapon and the arcane strike feat for a devilish melee bard plz tell me you can prestige class if so take levels as sublime cord as soon as you can finally pick up snowflake wardance from forst burn now do a little jig and watch the gore fly
fire-blade 10-29-05, 07:25 AM	take a barbarian orc... a +4 to str is very nice :)
SilverFoxKnows 10-29-05, 12:52 PM	a Dwarven Barbarian. I wouldn't worry too much about being stuck with one class so long as you and your friends are having fun. A single class Barb can still be a valuable member of the party. How you build him will depend on what the rest of your party is like. For instance, I took Track as my first Feat, and here's why. It was a party of three (BattleSorc, Druid and me). No Ranger. A large portion of our adventures were/are outside of cities. I gave up some damage dealing by not taking Power Attack but we've been able to avoid some ambushes and chase down foes who escaped because I was able to find tracks. I still think that's a fair trade off. Who will your backup be? A tank, an archer, a wizard? If you're alone on the front lines, and have to be the tank, your weapons/armor may not be the same as if you were the skirmisher (Fast Movement :D ) fighting alongside two tanked Fighters. My final advice, play what calls out to you. Be adaptable. Have fun.
Red Fire 10-29-05, 03:10 PM	Hmm...I'm liking what I'm hearing. I've been reading the Characters with Class articles about the three classes and comparing weaknesses and strengths.
Mesel 10-29-05, 03:18 PM	Well, to decide what you will be, I have a sugestion. Look at the group's characters. If the team have no fighters, you should be one. If the team have a fighter but no other combat oriented character, you should be a barbarian. If the team have both a fighter and other combat oriented character, you should be a bard. That's what me thinks. I, personaly, like bards more than barbarians and fighters. Bards have a great role-playing and good enchament/illusion spells (my favorite schools of spells), and many skills.
Red Fire 10-29-05, 03:23 PM	So far I know that we have a ninja, an alchemist (created class), and a couple of dragoons (also a created class), there are a fwe others were I don't know what class they're gonna be. I think we are going to have a fighter.
DrowSmurf 10-29-05, 03:52 PM	well what level are you starting at? if its lvl1 then i would go with barbarian... its around lvl4 i would go with fighter... if i think around lvl10-13 go with bard if you are a barbarian.. go for half-orc or halfling(i had an awesome time playing one) if you are a fighter.. go for human, you get another feat so you are more skilled in combat and more skill points which can help with out of combat situations with bard... its tough... can you chose subraces? go for umm gray elf... +2int +2cha -2con and if not go for gnome or halfling... perhaps half-elf
Averroes 10-29-05, 03:58 PM	What book is the Gray elf in? I remeber the race from 2ed. and I liked it alot, but I have not seen it since 3.
TheraerTheWanderingBard 10-29-05, 04:22 PM	with bard... its tough... can you chose subraces? go for umm gray elf... +2int +2cha -2con and if not go for gnome or halfling... perhaps half-elf Umm...gray elf is +2 Int +2 Dex -2 Str -2 Con from the SRD Gray Elf Taller and grander in physical appearance than others of their race, gray elves have a reputation for being aloof and arrogant (even by elven standards). They have either silver hair and amber eyes or pale golden hair and violet eyes. They prefer clothing of white, silver, yellow, or gold, with cloaks of deep blue or purple. Gray Elf Traits (Ex): These traits are in addition to the high elf traits. — +2 Intelligence, –2 Strength. Your thinking of Drow, they get +2 Cha and Int
DrowSmurf 10-29-05, 05:11 PM	from the Kingdoms of Kalamar Players Guide page 3 Elf, Grey +2Int +2Cha -2Con Favored Class Wizard this book is also home of the 0LA drow... +2int -2con from this book Forest Gnome has +2cha +2wis -2str
Red Fire 10-29-05, 08:59 PM	Can someone give me the specs for a Dwarf and a Barbarian so I can complete my character sheet? I don't have the book, but I've borrowed it in the past from friends who do have it.
serow_#R 10-29-05, 09:52 PM	Can someone give me the specs for a Dwarf and a Barbarian so I can complete my character sheet? I don't have the book, but I've borrowed it in the past from friends who do have it. here: http://www.d20srd.org it's under Core SRD, Races and Classes sections, respectively
Timlagor 10-29-05, 10:14 PM	No multi-classing but you can create your own class? I don't get it Just create a class that IS a multi-class combination.
Red Fire 10-30-05, 12:56 AM	Thanks alot that really helps. The only thing I don't have is a list of feats and skill point costs.
Ravenson 10-30-05, 06:38 PM	www.d20srd.org again, m'friend