Barbarian Rage is Instant [Archive] - Wizards Community

Barbarian Rage is Instant [Archive] - Wizards Community

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The Real Minion
10-26-03, 05:16 AM But apparently everyone doesn't know that :rolleyes:

Many of us have played NWN and are so under the assumption that when a barbarian initiates rage it takes a full action and invokes attacks of opportunity. Thats how the game does it, thats not how the tabletop rules do it.

According the the player's handbook, barbarian rage takes no time. How can anything that doesn't require any time at all be considered an action, or take up your part in a round?
It does say that a barbarian can only rage "during his own action". Meaning not during someone else's action, specifically in response to fatal damage to get the extra hit points in a pinch.
The meaning of the word "during" is not a mystery to most people. "During his own turn" means when it is the barbarian's turn to act, he may choose to rage at that time, "during" or while he is performing his action.

The feat "Instantaneous Rage" does not allow you to rage without using an action or invoking attack of opportunity. The feat allows you to rage any time, even during someone else's action. That way if you're hit for more hit points than you have left you can rage to gain the extra hit points and remain standing.

This is extremely clear to me, and quite obvious, but somehow opinions still vary *shug*. So you've heard my take, have at it :cool:
xect
10-26-03, 10:18 AM Not much to argue about. I, and if I'm not mistaken, the rules, agree with you.
Greyman
10-26-03, 10:47 AM Yes, the Rage description explicitly states that, "entering a rage takes no time itself, but the barbarian can only do it during his action." This is the case in both 3.0 and 3.5.

I have never heard anyone claim otherwise and the wording is so clear and concise that I shouldn't imagine any such argument lasting longer than it takes to look it up.
The Real Minion
10-26-03, 11:06 AM Believe it or not I did have this argument very recently. The opposition claimed that "during his action" was synonimous with "IS his action", and he would go ask his brother the english major about the precise meaning of the wording. Yeah I thought it was funny too :angel:
xect
10-26-03, 12:02 PM Originally posted by The Real Minion
Believe it or not I did have this argument very recently. The opposition claimed that "during his action" was synonimous with "IS his action", and he would go ask his brother the english major about the precise meaning of the wording. Yeah I thought it was funny too :angel:
But even then, there's no arguing with the phrase "takes no time itself".

Post/Author/DateTime	Post
The Real Minion 10-26-03, 05:16 AM	But apparently everyone doesn't know that :rolleyes: Many of us have played NWN and are so under the assumption that when a barbarian initiates rage it takes a full action and invokes attacks of opportunity. Thats how the game does it, thats not how the tabletop rules do it. According the the player's handbook, barbarian rage takes no time. How can anything that doesn't require any time at all be considered an action, or take up your part in a round? It does say that a barbarian can only rage "during his own action". Meaning not during someone else's action, specifically in response to fatal damage to get the extra hit points in a pinch. The meaning of the word "during" is not a mystery to most people. "During his own turn" means when it is the barbarian's turn to act, he may choose to rage at that time, "during" or while he is performing his action. The feat "Instantaneous Rage" does not allow you to rage without using an action or invoking attack of opportunity. The feat allows you to rage any time, even during someone else's action. That way if you're hit for more hit points than you have left you can rage to gain the extra hit points and remain standing. This is extremely clear to me, and quite obvious, but somehow opinions still vary shug. So you've heard my take, have at it :cool:
xect 10-26-03, 10:18 AM	Not much to argue about. I, and if I'm not mistaken, the rules, agree with you.
Greyman 10-26-03, 10:47 AM	Yes, the Rage description explicitly states that, "entering a rage takes no time itself, but the barbarian can only do it during his action." This is the case in both 3.0 and 3.5. I have never heard anyone claim otherwise and the wording is so clear and concise that I shouldn't imagine any such argument lasting longer than it takes to look it up.
The Real Minion 10-26-03, 11:06 AM	Believe it or not I did have this argument very recently. The opposition claimed that "during his action" was synonimous with "IS his action", and he would go ask his brother the english major about the precise meaning of the wording. Yeah I thought it was funny too :angel:
xect 10-26-03, 12:02 PM	Originally posted by The Real Minion Believe it or not I did have this argument very recently. The opposition claimed that "during his action" was synonimous with "IS his action", and he would go ask his brother the english major about the precise meaning of the wording. Yeah I thought it was funny too :angel: But even then, there's no arguing with the phrase "takes no time itself".