Barbarian/Frenzied Berserker question. [Archive] - Wizards Community

Barbarian/Frenzied Berserker question. [Archive] - Wizards Community

Post/Author/DateTime Post
Chaotix42
07-07-06, 02:31 PM Can a barb/frenzied berserker rage and frenzy at the same time and gain the benefits of both? I've not read anything stating they cannot...
Bob Loblaw
07-07-06, 02:42 PM Yes, it's actually meantioned in the description.
Chaotix42
07-07-06, 02:51 PM Oh, it is? Maybe I should go back and read the frenzied berserker a little better. :confused:
Timeout
07-07-06, 03:15 PM "The effects of frenzy stack with those from any rage ability the character may have"
__DnD4Life__
07-07-06, 03:40 PM Yes, but since both are a free action, you cannot activate both in the same round.
Chaotix42
07-07-06, 03:55 PM Hmm, never saw that line. 20 lashings! :eek: :embarrass
Sledged
07-07-06, 03:58 PM Actually, activating a barbarian's rage is a "not an action." So a rage and a fenzy can both be activated in the same round.
Jovknee
07-07-06, 04:06 PM Actually, activating a barbarian's rage is a "not an action." So a rage and a fenzy can both be activated in the same round.

PHB states that the rage ability takes no time itself to activate, however can only be done on the characters turn.
Chaotix42
07-07-06, 04:14 PM Yah yah. I'm having vivid flashbacks of my friend's shifter barbarian/frenzied berserker/weretouched master. :twitch::twitch::twitch:
Sledged
07-07-06, 04:16 PM PHB states that the rage ability takes no time itself to activate, however can only be done on the characters turn.So are you agreeing, disagreeing, or just making semi-relevant statement?
dokesa
07-07-06, 05:20 PM Yes, but since both are a free action, you cannot activate both in the same round.You can have multiple free actions in a round. How many is only limited by the DM's call.
GhostStepper
07-07-06, 06:04 PM Yes, but since both are a free action, you cannot activate both in the same round.

as dokesa said, you can activate as many free actions in one round as the DM will allow. I think you might be thinkng of swift actions.
__DnD4Life__
07-07-06, 07:44 PM as dokesa said, you can activate as many free actions in one round as the DM will allow. I think you might be thinkng of swift actions.
So, pre-eratta, you could cast as many quickened spells in a round as you had prepared? That seems a little much.

NOTE: Quicken spell was eratta'd to change from a free action to a swift action.
GhostStepper
07-07-06, 08:16 PM So, pre-eratta, you could cast as many quickened spells in a round as you had prepared? That seems a little much.

Read the feat. It specifically says you can only cast one quickened spell per round even before the errata. It has to say that because normally you can take multiple free actions in one round up to an amount determined by the DM. Normally, you can take as many free actions in one round as the DM will let you take.
__DnD4Life__
07-07-06, 09:04 PM Read the feat. It specifically says you can only cast one quickened spell per round even before the errata. It has to say that because normally you can take multiple free actions in one round up to an amount determined by the DM. Normally, you can take as many free actions in one round as the DM will let you take.
Oh, ok. Well, thanks for enlightening me on the subject. I always thought that you could only do one of each action per round. I guess there are always exceptions.
runestar
07-07-06, 10:42 PM Actually, yours was the only exception to the rule. ;)
DwarvinJedi
07-07-06, 11:01 PM Actually, yours was the only exception to the rule. ;)
Actually, you can take 2 move actions, provided you do not take a standard action
__DnD4Life__
07-08-06, 02:39 AM Actually, you can take 2 move actions, provided you do not take a standard action
You can also do 2 swift actions in a round. The second one is just called an immediate action. :P
Jovknee
07-08-06, 07:04 AM So are you agreeing, disagreeing, or just making semi-relevant statement?

Agreeing. Just giving proof on what the PhB stated.
Jovknee
07-08-06, 07:06 AM You can also do 2 swift actions in a round. The second one is just called an immediate action. :P
Ummmm as far as I know, you are allowed only one swift action OR one Imediate action a round. Swift actions are done on your turn, Imediate actions are done during someone else's turn.
Witch
07-08-06, 07:09 AM You can also do 2 swift actions in a round. The second one is just called an immediate action. :P
If you use an immediate action, you can't use a swift action on your turn. Sorry, no can do.
__DnD4Life__
07-09-06, 02:19 AM If you use an immediate action, you can't use a swift action on your turn. Sorry, no can do.
an immediate action takes up the swift action on the next turn.
...effectively, using an immediate action before your turn is equivalent to using your swift action for the coming turn.
So, you perform the swift action, then at the end, perform the immediate action, and your set. ;)

Post/Author/DateTime	Post
Chaotix42 07-07-06, 02:31 PM	Can a barb/frenzied berserker rage and frenzy at the same time and gain the benefits of both? I've not read anything stating they cannot...
Bob Loblaw 07-07-06, 02:42 PM	Yes, it's actually meantioned in the description.
Chaotix42 07-07-06, 02:51 PM	Oh, it is? Maybe I should go back and read the frenzied berserker a little better. :confused:
Timeout 07-07-06, 03:15 PM	"The effects of frenzy stack with those from any rage ability the character may have"
__DnD4Life__ 07-07-06, 03:40 PM	Yes, but since both are a free action, you cannot activate both in the same round.
Chaotix42 07-07-06, 03:55 PM	Hmm, never saw that line. 20 lashings! :eek: :embarrass
Sledged 07-07-06, 03:58 PM	Actually, activating a barbarian's rage is a "not an action." So a rage and a fenzy can both be activated in the same round.
Jovknee 07-07-06, 04:06 PM	Actually, activating a barbarian's rage is a "not an action." So a rage and a fenzy can both be activated in the same round. PHB states that the rage ability takes no time itself to activate, however can only be done on the characters turn.
Chaotix42 07-07-06, 04:14 PM	Yah yah. I'm having vivid flashbacks of my friend's shifter barbarian/frenzied berserker/weretouched master. :twitch::twitch::twitch:
Sledged 07-07-06, 04:16 PM	PHB states that the rage ability takes no time itself to activate, however can only be done on the characters turn.So are you agreeing, disagreeing, or just making semi-relevant statement?
dokesa 07-07-06, 05:20 PM	Yes, but since both are a free action, you cannot activate both in the same round.You can have multiple free actions in a round. How many is only limited by the DM's call.
GhostStepper 07-07-06, 06:04 PM	Yes, but since both are a free action, you cannot activate both in the same round. as dokesa said, you can activate as many free actions in one round as the DM will allow. I think you might be thinkng of swift actions.
__DnD4Life__ 07-07-06, 07:44 PM	as dokesa said, you can activate as many free actions in one round as the DM will allow. I think you might be thinkng of swift actions. So, pre-eratta, you could cast as many quickened spells in a round as you had prepared? That seems a little much. NOTE: Quicken spell was eratta'd to change from a free action to a swift action.
GhostStepper 07-07-06, 08:16 PM	So, pre-eratta, you could cast as many quickened spells in a round as you had prepared? That seems a little much. Read the feat. It specifically says you can only cast one quickened spell per round even before the errata. It has to say that because normally you can take multiple free actions in one round up to an amount determined by the DM. Normally, you can take as many free actions in one round as the DM will let you take.
__DnD4Life__ 07-07-06, 09:04 PM	Read the feat. It specifically says you can only cast one quickened spell per round even before the errata. It has to say that because normally you can take multiple free actions in one round up to an amount determined by the DM. Normally, you can take as many free actions in one round as the DM will let you take. Oh, ok. Well, thanks for enlightening me on the subject. I always thought that you could only do one of each action per round. I guess there are always exceptions.
runestar 07-07-06, 10:42 PM	Actually, yours was the only exception to the rule. ;)
DwarvinJedi 07-07-06, 11:01 PM	Actually, yours was the only exception to the rule. ;) Actually, you can take 2 move actions, provided you do not take a standard action
__DnD4Life__ 07-08-06, 02:39 AM	Actually, you can take 2 move actions, provided you do not take a standard action You can also do 2 swift actions in a round. The second one is just called an immediate action. :P
Jovknee 07-08-06, 07:04 AM	So are you agreeing, disagreeing, or just making semi-relevant statement? Agreeing. Just giving proof on what the PhB stated.
Jovknee 07-08-06, 07:06 AM	You can also do 2 swift actions in a round. The second one is just called an immediate action. :P Ummmm as far as I know, you are allowed only one swift action OR one Imediate action a round. Swift actions are done on your turn, Imediate actions are done during someone else's turn.
Witch 07-08-06, 07:09 AM	You can also do 2 swift actions in a round. The second one is just called an immediate action. :P If you use an immediate action, you can't use a swift action on your turn. Sorry, no can do.
__DnD4Life__ 07-09-06, 02:19 AM	If you use an immediate action, you can't use a swift action on your turn. Sorry, no can do. an immediate action takes up the swift action on the next turn. ...effectively, using an immediate action before your turn is equivalent to using your swift action for the coming turn. So, you perform the swift action, then at the end, perform the immediate action, and your set. ;)