Barbarians and Con [Archive] - Wizards Community

Barbarians and Con [Archive] - Wizards Community

Post/Author/DateTime Post
Dark Brandon
12-20-06, 01:14 PM If you're playing a barbarian who goes into rage (+4 con), and face a creature who does con damage, does the duration of your rage drop when you lose a con modifier?
Grimmsfeld
12-20-06, 03:03 PM Yes.
Dark Brandon
12-22-06, 12:34 AM Yes.

Thank you.

If you please, could you explain why?
Salla
12-22-06, 01:10 AM Thank you.

If you please, could you explain why?

Actually, it might not. If you cast a spell, for example, with a duration of 1 hour per level, then suffer a negative level, it doesn't knock an hour off the duration; it's a 'free-standing effect', as it were. Since a Barbarian remains enraged even if he's knocked unconscious, I think the rage duration is fixed by whatever the Barbarian's Con is as soon as the rage begins (3+'raging Con' bonus).
runestar
12-22-06, 04:42 AM I am inclined to agree with Salla here. I think the duration of the rage is a static number which is determined at the moment rage is activated. Afterwards, its duration will not change should your con score change.:)
Dark Brandon
12-22-06, 09:12 PM Actually, it might not. If you cast a spell, for example, with a duration of 1 hour per level, then suffer a negative level, it doesn't knock an hour off the duration; it's a 'free-standing effect', as it were. Since a Barbarian remains enraged even if he's knocked unconscious, I think the rage duration is fixed by whatever the Barbarian's Con is as soon as the rage begins (3+'raging Con' bonus).

So does it matter that it's an ex ability, but not a su or spell or does that matter at all?
Salla
12-22-06, 09:14 PM So does it matter that it's an ex ability, but not a su or spell or does that matter at all?

Not to my knowledge; those designations only affect if it can be dispelled, countered, work in an anti-magic field and whatnot.
Geezer
12-22-06, 09:23 PM However, with your now decreased Con, you have less total hit points so when you rage finally does end, you are even more likely to die on the spot.

Post/Author/DateTime	Post
Dark Brandon 12-20-06, 01:14 PM	If you're playing a barbarian who goes into rage (+4 con), and face a creature who does con damage, does the duration of your rage drop when you lose a con modifier?
Grimmsfeld 12-20-06, 03:03 PM	Yes.
Dark Brandon 12-22-06, 12:34 AM	Yes. Thank you. If you please, could you explain why?
Salla 12-22-06, 01:10 AM	Thank you. If you please, could you explain why? Actually, it might not. If you cast a spell, for example, with a duration of 1 hour per level, then suffer a negative level, it doesn't knock an hour off the duration; it's a 'free-standing effect', as it were. Since a Barbarian remains enraged even if he's knocked unconscious, I think the rage duration is fixed by whatever the Barbarian's Con is as soon as the rage begins (3+'raging Con' bonus).
runestar 12-22-06, 04:42 AM	I am inclined to agree with Salla here. I think the duration of the rage is a static number which is determined at the moment rage is activated. Afterwards, its duration will not change should your con score change.:)
Dark Brandon 12-22-06, 09:12 PM	Actually, it might not. If you cast a spell, for example, with a duration of 1 hour per level, then suffer a negative level, it doesn't knock an hour off the duration; it's a 'free-standing effect', as it were. Since a Barbarian remains enraged even if he's knocked unconscious, I think the rage duration is fixed by whatever the Barbarian's Con is as soon as the rage begins (3+'raging Con' bonus). So does it matter that it's an ex ability, but not a su or spell or does that matter at all?
Salla 12-22-06, 09:14 PM	So does it matter that it's an ex ability, but not a su or spell or does that matter at all? Not to my knowledge; those designations only affect if it can be dispelled, countered, work in an anti-magic field and whatnot.
Geezer 12-22-06, 09:23 PM	However, with your now decreased Con, you have less total hit points so when you rage finally does end, you are even more likely to die on the spot.