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FriendlyBiscuit 10-10-06, 05:39 PM	Feat in Complete Mage that makes me very, very happy... Melodic Casting Perform 4 ranks, Spellcraft 4 ranks, bardic music class feature Use Perform in place of Concentration, cast spells while using bardic music I'm gonna hafta get Complete Mage now...
Lael 10-11-06, 12:14 AM	There is already a spell called undersong that lets you make a perform check while instead of con checks, but the casting spells while using a bardic music is good, but I find that having a bardic music linger for 4 rounds after usually does the trick.
FriendlyBiscuit 10-11-06, 05:12 AM	It'll still be nice. Especially for the occasional mass-battle (where, incidentally, bards are AWESOME!) Those last long enough that you really do want to be playing without ceasing.
CaoSlayer 10-11-06, 05:27 AM	This feat also allows a bard using a instrument to cast using the playing and the music as somatic/verbal components?
Becks 10-11-06, 04:36 PM	This feat also allows a bard using a instrument to cast using the playing and the music as somatic/verbal components? That means it allowed me to do a inspire corage and in the second and so on I can cast spells? P.S. I read all your bard handbook, helps me a lot thanks!
Becks 10-11-06, 04:37 PM	Anyone knows if there is a version of the spell CRESCENDO to 3.5?
Becks 10-11-06, 04:39 PM	This feat also allows a bard using a instrument to cast using the playing and the music as somatic/verbal components? As you written one of the bard handbook could you gime your personal opinion? First, I try to create something by my own My bard is very different, it boast allies, have a good diplomacy, also a good sugestion and fascinate. Human bard 7, marshall 1 STR- 10 DEX- 14 CON- 16 INT- 18 WIS- 14 CHA- 24 H- Song of the heart (basics to albard abilities) Bard 1- Skill focus perform - oratory (my basic perform test because I can fascinate without others notice that i'm doing so) Bard 3- Versitle performer (to increase my fascinate) Bard 6- Word of Creation (amazing for bards) Marshall 1- Skill focus diplomacy - Minor aura to Cha checks and skill Perform 28 Diplomacy 30 Bluff 25 UMD 19 My plain is to Bard 8 (inpire corage +2, and +4 in all skill) Marshall 3 ( two minor aura, to CHA checks and INT checks Exemplar 4 (not sure about how long but... +4 to search, +4 to disible device, take 10 in 9 skills - perform, diplomacy, seach, disible ,+CHA to fortitude and concentration, bonus feat is always good. Rogue 2 (find trap and rogue's skill) And buy feats to boast inspire corage, leadership,Lingering song, or (if any) something to increase the marshall's aura The Idea is to find and disible best than a pure rogue at the same level. I gess is it, if some is missing I edit it. What do you think about this built? Please comment
CaoSlayer 10-12-06, 05:34 AM	As you written one of the bard handbook could you gime your personal opinion? My plain is to Bard 8 (inpire corage +2, and +4 in all skill) Marshall 3 ( two minor aura, to CHA checks and INT checks Exemplar 4 (not sure about how long but... +4 to search, +4 to disible device, take 10 in 9 skills - perform, diplomacy, seach, disible ,+CHA to fortitude and concentration, bonus feat is always good. Rogue 2 (find trap and rogue's skill) And buy feats to boast inspire corage, leadership,Lingering song, or (if any) something to increase the marshall's aura The Idea is to find and disible best than a pure rogue at the same level. I gess is it, if some is missing I edit it. What do you think about this built? Please comment umm, you are giving up a lot of spellcaster levels that it is the bardīs forte, since you are focusing on singing you should try one of the singer prc like virtuoso or seeker of the song so you can sign two songs at once and get extra uses. ----------- The ruling will depend of the DM so my opinion it is inrelevant. seems obviously that the perform remplace the verbal component since can be used with perform(sing)... for a balance standpoint I would rule it to covert only verbal and/or somatic if you are signing or playing an instrument... but you still with have to handle the material component and focus if the spell have one. I also would just rule it exactly like Natural Spell feat but remplacing wild shape with bardic music. Natural Spell [General] Prerequisites Wis 13, wild shape ability. Benefit You can complete the verbal and somatic components of spells while in a wild shape. You substitute various noises and gestures for the normal verbal and somatic components of a spell. You can also use any material components or focuses you possess, even if such items are melded within your current form. This feat does not permit the use of magic items while you are in a form that could not ordinarily use them, and you do not gain the ability to speak while in a wild shape.
Becks 10-16-06, 01:01 PM	umm, you are giving up a lot of spellcaster levels that it is the bardīs forte, since you are focusing on singing you should try one of the singer prc like virtuoso or seeker of the song so you can sign two songs at once and get extra uses. ----------- The ruling will depend of the DM so my opinion it is inrelevant. seems obviously that the perform remplace the verbal component since can be used with perform(sing)... for a balance standpoint I would rule it to covert only verbal and/or somatic if you are signing or playing an instrument... but you still with have to handle the material component and focus if the spell have one. I also would just rule it exactly like Natural Spell feat but remplacing wild shape with bardic music. Natural Spell [General] Prerequisites Wis 13, wild shape ability. Benefit You can complete the verbal and somatic components of spells while in a wild shape. You substitute various noises and gestures for the normal verbal and somatic components of a spell. You can also use any material components or focuses you possess, even if such items are melded within your current form. This feat does not permit the use of magic items while you are in a form that could not ordinarily use them, and you do not gain the ability to speak while in a wild shape. Actualy a dislike the firsts music of virtuoso. I think it's good just after 5th level in this prestige.
Becks 10-16-06, 01:17 PM	umm, you are giving up a lot of spellcaster levels that it is the bardīs forte, since you are focusing on singing you should try one of the singer prc like virtuoso or seeker of the song so you can sign two songs at once and get extra uses. ----------- The ruling will depend of the DM so my opinion it is inrelevant. seems obviously that the perform remplace the verbal component since can be used with perform(sing)... for a balance standpoint I would rule it to covert only verbal and/or somatic if you are signing or playing an instrument... but you still with have to handle the material component and focus if the spell have one. I also would just rule it exactly like Natural Spell feat but remplacing wild shape with bardic music. Natural Spell [General] Prerequisites Wis 13, wild shape ability. Benefit You can complete the verbal and somatic components of spells while in a wild shape. You substitute various noises and gestures for the normal verbal and somatic components of a spell. You can also use any material components or focuses you possess, even if such items are melded within your current form. This feat does not permit the use of magic items while you are in a form that could not ordinarily use them, and you do not gain the ability to speak while in a wild shape. And what about my plain to became a great rogue and still buff my allies, doesn't it sounds like fun (and also good)?