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starwed 07-28-05, 12:59 PM	Noticed that the errata for Complete Warrior didn't mention the Bear Warrior. Does anyone know if there's an actual ruling on the classes Bear Form ability? (The Bear Form ability has contradictory text regarding how often it can be used. "The only limit on the number of timers per day he can assume bear form is the number of times per day he enters a rage or frenzy..." vs. "At 5th level, a bear warrior can assume bear form twice per day...". )
TrackStar 07-28-05, 02:27 PM	Thats not contradictory... One says how many times you can do it, and the other gives a possable limit. Say you only have one rage a day at 5th level, then you probley can only do it once a day, even though if you had 3 rages you could only do it twice. Sound right? I could be wrong...
starwed 07-28-05, 05:34 PM	Nah, it increases the #/day between 1st and 5th level, yet no additional rages are gained. And the way it's phrased implies that it's a limit, despite what the opening paragraph says. Apparantly the original version of this class was not contradictory, yet I haven't seen it. That might be helpful if anyone has access. :)
Welt 07-29-05, 12:14 AM	The original bear warrior in Oriental Adventures limited the number of times you could bear it up; 1/day at 1st and one additional time per day at 4th and 8th (not coincidentally, the same levels that a new bear form was gained). Likely, the writer fully intentioned to remove the per-day limit (it's already limited by rages/day; is Bear Form really that strong that it needs another limiter? [And BTW, the answer's "no"]). What probably happened is that they simply copy/paste'd the OA text for the Complete Warrior update and changed some of it, but forgot, or simply missed, the other reference to a per-day limit. To me, the fact that a portion of the text was altered to reflect no per-day limit is a pretty clear indicator that they meant to change it, and that Bear Form is only supposed to be limited to rages/day.