Beguiler, War Mage, Dread Necromancer : What about the other schools of magic? [Archive] - Wizards Community

Beguiler, War Mage, Dread Necromancer : What about the other schools of magic? [Archive] - Wizards Community

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EvilVegan
07-25-06, 02:22 PM Beguiler has enchantment/illusion
War Mage has evocation/direct damage
Dread Necromancer has . . . necromancy

What about the other schools?

What sort of abilities would you give a class with the "warmage" style that did conjurations (Summon/creation only)?

What about a class that focuses on buffs/abjurations?

Or divinations?

I'm planning on removing wizard and cleric and having only "specialists" like the warmage, beguiler, dread necromancer, and a beefed up sorcerer would be the "generalist"

So anyway, here's a very basic writeup:

Defender of the Light (minor divinations, single target buffs, heals, undead destruction)
Poor BAB, Good will
Armor proficiency at 1st, 7th, 13th. (Light + shields, medium, heavy)
Turn undead

Summoner (Summon Monsters, mass buffs, hedging spells)
Poor BAB, good will
Light armor proficiency
Augment summoning (5th), empowered* summons (7th), rapid* summoning (11th), Maximized* summons (15th) *Metamagics at reduced level cost

and so on. . .

Also planning on making a shape-shifting class centered around alterself, polymorph, shapechange, with warshaper and transmogrifist combined.

Has anyone seen anything similar to these concepts before, or does anyone have any CONSTRUCTIVE ideas for them?

And I don't need to hear that "This can all be done with minor modifications or PrC dipping" crap.
Seerow
07-25-06, 02:26 PM Otto the Bugbear posted an Oracle recently, focusing on Divinations and Abjurations. You may want to look at that.
CzarGarrett
07-25-06, 02:29 PM I'm sure we'll get them in books soon enough.

Something like a Divination based caster could make a good fit into a very urban environment, in which case, we might see it in that Cityscape book that's supposed to be out sometime in the near future.
Otto the Bugbear
07-25-06, 05:06 PM Thanks Seerow. (Oracle: divinations and abjurations is in my sig.)

K posted the Summoner in the Tome of Fiends. It's along the same lines.

That covers evocation (CA), necromancy (HoH), divination & abjuration (me), conjuration (K), illusion & enchantment (PHII), leaving only transmutation.

Cheers

Otto :)

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EvilVegan 07-25-06, 02:22 PM	Beguiler has enchantment/illusion War Mage has evocation/direct damage Dread Necromancer has . . . necromancy What about the other schools? What sort of abilities would you give a class with the "warmage" style that did conjurations (Summon/creation only)? What about a class that focuses on buffs/abjurations? Or divinations? I'm planning on removing wizard and cleric and having only "specialists" like the warmage, beguiler, dread necromancer, and a beefed up sorcerer would be the "generalist" So anyway, here's a very basic writeup: Defender of the Light (minor divinations, single target buffs, heals, undead destruction) Poor BAB, Good will Armor proficiency at 1st, 7th, 13th. (Light + shields, medium, heavy) Turn undead Summoner (Summon Monsters, mass buffs, hedging spells) Poor BAB, good will Light armor proficiency Augment summoning (5th), empowered* summons (7th), rapid* summoning (11th), Maximized* summons (15th) *Metamagics at reduced level cost and so on. . . Also planning on making a shape-shifting class centered around alterself, polymorph, shapechange, with warshaper and transmogrifist combined. Has anyone seen anything similar to these concepts before, or does anyone have any CONSTRUCTIVE ideas for them? And I don't need to hear that "This can all be done with minor modifications or PrC dipping" crap.
Seerow 07-25-06, 02:26 PM	Otto the Bugbear posted an Oracle recently, focusing on Divinations and Abjurations. You may want to look at that.
CzarGarrett 07-25-06, 02:29 PM	I'm sure we'll get them in books soon enough. Something like a Divination based caster could make a good fit into a very urban environment, in which case, we might see it in that Cityscape book that's supposed to be out sometime in the near future.
Otto the Bugbear 07-25-06, 05:06 PM	Thanks Seerow. (Oracle: divinations and abjurations is in my sig.) K posted the Summoner in the Tome of Fiends. It's along the same lines. That covers evocation (CA), necromancy (HoH), divination & abjuration (me), conjuration (K), illusion & enchantment (PHII), leaving only transmutation. Cheers Otto :)