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Beware the Color Guard. [Archive] - Wizards Community

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TheAnthroDM
05-03-07, 08:24 PM If you're familiar with me you know I always put my crunch in before my flavor text, which is coming soon.

The White Guard is a class for Paladins that have awakened their minds into the realization the to truely serve good on cannot always yield to a strick disciplined line of thinking. A ritual known as "The Flames of Purification" is performed on any Paladin who wishes to become a White Guard, to purge all traces of chaos and law from their sole.

White Guard Hit Die: d10
Base
Attack Fort Ref Will
Level Bonus Save Save Save Special
1st +1 +0 +0 +2 True Paladin
2nd +2 +0 +0 +3 Skill Focus(Sense Motive)
3rd +3 +1 +1 +3 Detect Chaos
4th +4 +1 +1 +4 Smite Chaos
5th +5 +1 +1 +4 Burning Blade
6th +6/+1 +2 +2 +5 Skill Focus(Diplomacy)
7th +7/+2 +2 +2 +5 Detect Law
8th +8/+3 +2 +2 +6 Smite Law
9th +9/+4 +3 +3 +6 Forgiving Brand
10th +10/+5 +3 +3 +7 Holy Sword

True Paladin(Ex): A White Guard retains(or regains) all her Paladin class Features and can contiue advancing in the Paladin class regardless of her new alignment. The Paladin code of conducted is nulled by the White Gaurd Code of Conduct. A White Guard's levels stack with Paladin levels to determine the abilities of his special mount, turn undead, and smite evil.

Skill Focus(Sense Motive): A White Guard gains Skill Focus(Sense Motive) as a bonus feat.

Detect Chaos(Sp): A White Guard can use Detect Chaos(as the spell) at will

Smite Chaos(Su): A White Guard can use her Smite Evil ability on Chaotic opponents but must declare that she is smiting chaos and not evil.

Burning Blade(Sp): Once per day a White Guard can grant her weapon the Flaming Burst special ability for a duration of 1 round/White Guard level. This ability is equivalant to a 4th level spell.

Skill Focus(Diplomacy): A White Guard gains Skill Focus(Diplomacy) as a bonus feat.

Detect Law(Sp): A White Guard can use Detect Law(as the spell) at will

Smite Law(Su): A White Guard can use her Smite Evil ability on lawful opponents but must declare that she is smiting law and not evil.

Forgiving Brand(Su): A White Guard can elect for all the damage she does to be nonlethal, no matter what source the damage comes from. (Smite Evil, Burning Blade, Ect.)

Holy Sword(Sp): Once per day, as the spell.

The Blue Guard is a Paladin who knows the concept of Law and Good come into conflict, and has choosen Law over Good. A Blue Guard must undergo the "Freezing of the Morals" to advance,

Blue Guard Hit Die: d10
Base
Attack Fort Ref Will
Level Bonus Save Save Save Special
1st +1 +0 +0 +2 True Knight
2nd +2 +0 +0 +3 Skill Focus(Knowledge[Nobility and Royalty])
3rd +3 +1 +1 +3 Detect Chaos
4th +4 +1 +1 +4 Smite Chaos
5th +5 +1 +1 +4 Chilling Blade
6th +6/+1 +2 +2 +5 Skill Focus(Diplomacy)
7th +7/+2 +2 +2 +5 Detect Good
8th +8/+3 +2 +2 +6 Smite Good
9th +9/+4 +3 +3 +6 Spare the Innocent
10th +10/+5 +3 +3 +7 Axiomatic Sword

True Knight(Ex): A Blue Guard retains(or regains) all her Paladin class Features and can contiue advancing in the Paladin class regardless of her new alignment. The Paladin code of conducted is nulled by the Blue Gaurd Code of Conduct. A White Guard's levels stack with Paladin levels to determine the abilities of his special mount, turn undead, and smite evil.

Skill Focus(Knowledge[Nobility and Royalty]): A Blue Guard gains Skill Focus(Knowledge[Nobility and Royalty]) as a bonus feat.

Detect Chaos(Sp): A Blue Guard can use Detect Chaos(as the spell) at will

Smite Chaos(Su): A Blue Guard can use her Smite Evil ability on Chaotic opponents but must declare that she is smiting chaos and not evil.

Chilling Blade(Sp): Once per day a Blue Guard can grant her weapon the Cold Burst special ability for a duration of 1 round/Blue Guard level. This ability is equivalant to a 4th level spell.

Skill Focus(Diplomacy): A Blue Guard gains Skill Focus(Diplomacy) as a bonus feat.

Detect Good(Sp): A Blue Guard can use Detect Good(as the spell) at will

Smite Good(Su): A Blue Guard can use her Smite Evil ability on good opponents but must declare that she is smiting good and not evil.

Spare the Innocent(Su): A Blue Guard can elect for all the damage she does to be nonlethal, no matter what source the damage comes from. (Smite Evil, Chilling Blade, Ect.)

Axiomatic Sword(Sp): As the spell, once per day.

Axiomatic Sword

Evocation [Law]
Level: Pal 4
Components: V, S
Casting Time: 1 standard action
Range: Touch
Target: Melee weapon touched
Duration: 1 round/level
Saving Throw: None
Spell Resistance: No

This spell allows you to channel lawful power into your sword, or any other melee weapon you choose. The weapon acts as a +5 axiomatic weapon (+5 enhancement bonus on attack and damage rolls, extra 2d6 damage against chaotic opponents). It also emits a magic circle against chaos effect (as the spell). If the magic circle ends, the sword creates a new one on your turn as a free action. The spell is automatically canceled 1 round after the weapon leaves your hand. You cannot have more than one axiomatic sword at a time.

If this spell is cast on a magic weapon, the powers of the spell supersede any that the weapon normally has, rendering the normal enhancement bonus and powers of the weapon inoperative for the duration of the spell. This spell is not cumulative with bless weapon or any other spell that might modify the weapon in any way.

This spell does not work on artifacts.

Note: A masterwork weapon’s bonus to attack does not stack with an enhancement bonus to attack.

The Following is a Semi-Joke class inspired by a joke someone made about a player requestion a Pink Guard. It is not to be held with the same seriousness as the two above classes

Pink Guard Hit Die: d10
Base
Attack Fort Ref Will
Level Bonus Save Save Save Special
1st +1 +0 +2 +2 Aura of Sarcasm
2nd +2 +0 +3 +3 Skill Focus(Perform[dance])
3rd +3 +1 +3 +3 Detect Law
4th +4 +1 +4 +4 Smite Law
5th +5 +1 +4 +4 Evasion
6th +6/+1 +2 +5 +5 Laughable Strike
7th +7/+2 +2 +5 +5 Mettle
8th +8/+3 +2 +6 +6 Improved Evasion
9th +9/+4 +3 +6 +6 Spare the fool
10th +10/+5 +3 +7 +7 Spoil the wise
Khoran
05-03-07, 09:12 PM They both look rather cool for PrCs. However, I've got some questions, if you don't mind.

Why does the Whiteguard get Burning Blade and why does the Blueguard get Chilling Blade? It dosn't seem to fit if you ask me, since Elemental Damage dosn't really fit into the whole Paladin thing.

What are the entry requirements for each class?

Blueguard mentions a new code of conduct, could you give details on that?

And this last one is a suggestion: I wouldn't give Blueguards Smite Good. You could give them an ability such as Smite Unlawful, which could damage all non-lawful alignments. Or something similar to that.
TheAnthroDM
05-03-07, 10:19 PM They both look rather cool for PrCs. However, I've got some questions, if you don't mind.

I never mind questions. :D

Why does the Whiteguard get Burning Blade and why does the Blueguard get Chilling Blade? It dosn't seem to fit if you ask me, since Elemental Damage dosn't really fit into the whole Paladin thing.

The White Guard gets burning blade because it symbolizes one of the prerequirements for this class. I will add details soon, I promise.

What are the entry requirements for each class?

I'll add them after I finish my work on the Gnome and Half-Elf Paragons in my other thread. But here the the alignment requirements:

White Guard: Neutral Good
Blue Guard: Lawful Neutral

Blueguard mentions a new code of conduct, could you give details on that?

So does the White Guard, All I can tell you is it's similiar to the Paladin's Code right now.

And this last one is a suggestion: I wouldn't give Blueguards Smite Good. You could give them an ability such as Smite Unlawful, which could damage all non-lawful alignments. Or something similar to that.

The Idea is they get the ability to smite all alignments other than their own and neutrality.
Khoran
05-03-07, 10:35 PM The White Guard gets burning blade because it symbolizes one of the prerequirements for this class. I will add details soon, I promise.
Ah, if there is fluff behind it with the entry requirements, it's cool. Just seemed a little random to me at first.

But here the the alignment requirements:

White Guard: Neutral Good
Blue Guard: Lawful Neutral
Ah, I didn't see the Whiteguard being NG coming, I thought it would be a LG super-paladin.

So does the White Guard, All I can tell you is it's similiar to the Paladin's Code right now.
Yeah, I figured the Whiteguard one was the Paladin Code, but I was wondering if there was any serious changes in the Blue Guard one.

The Idea is they get the ability to smite all alignments other than their own and neutrality.
I see. Yeah, I just think, personally, it seems a little off for them to be able to Smite LG myself, but that's just me.

Also, one more though. Spellcasting (Something I occasionally forget Paladins have) for these classes, how does it work?
TheAnthroDM
05-03-07, 11:08 PM Ah, if there is fluff behind it with the entry requirements, it's cool. Just seemed a little random to me at first.
The entry requirements involve a ritual that purges all traces of (Good and Evil, or Law and Chaos) from the soul, each does it in a certain way that involves fire or ice.

Ah, I didn't see the Whiteguard being NG coming, I thought it would be a LG super-paladin.
Nope! Though I can see how you got the impression based on it's first level class feature. I've toyed with the ideo of an uber paladin... but I'm still not sure. (Gold Guard perhaps?)

Yeah, I figured the Whiteguard one was the Paladin Code, but I was wondering if there was any serious changes in the Blue Guard one.
Not really, the blueguard can use poison that is on the open market... He has to follow the laws of any established nation as long as they don't endanger his duties....

I see. Yeah, I just think, personally, it seems a little off for them to be able to Smite LG myself, but that's just me.
It would be rare for them to use it on a LG person, but on a NG person? Easily possible.

Also, one more though. Spellcasting (Something I occasionally forget Paladins have) for these classes, how does it work?
It doesn't. They gain no spellcasting progression in return for the abilties granted to them, but they retain that feature from levels in the Paladin class.
TheAnthroDM
05-06-07, 08:33 PM Minor flavor added, but nothing I haven't said already, I need to find my Info skeleton so I can finish it. :bump:
Enchanter_Tom
05-07-07, 12:30 AM It would help if you formatted the classes better, and I'd give good Fort saves to all of them, plus half-caster progression.
TheAnthroDM
07-12-07, 07:17 PM Oi, I gotta get this project back on track. No, I will not allow spellcasting progression because I do not want munchkins going "Oh looking here, now let me take one level in cleric and get better progression than the normal paladin". And what do you mean by formatted better?

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TheAnthroDM 05-03-07, 08:24 PM	If you're familiar with me you know I always put my crunch in before my flavor text, which is coming soon. The White Guard is a class for Paladins that have awakened their minds into the realization the to truely serve good on cannot always yield to a strick disciplined line of thinking. A ritual known as "The Flames of Purification" is performed on any Paladin who wishes to become a White Guard, to purge all traces of chaos and law from their sole. White Guard Hit Die: d10 Base Attack Fort Ref Will Level Bonus Save Save Save Special 1st +1 +0 +0 +2 True Paladin 2nd +2 +0 +0 +3 Skill Focus(Sense Motive) 3rd +3 +1 +1 +3 Detect Chaos 4th +4 +1 +1 +4 Smite Chaos 5th +5 +1 +1 +4 Burning Blade 6th +6/+1 +2 +2 +5 Skill Focus(Diplomacy) 7th +7/+2 +2 +2 +5 Detect Law 8th +8/+3 +2 +2 +6 Smite Law 9th +9/+4 +3 +3 +6 Forgiving Brand 10th +10/+5 +3 +3 +7 Holy Sword True Paladin(Ex): A White Guard retains(or regains) all her Paladin class Features and can contiue advancing in the Paladin class regardless of her new alignment. The Paladin code of conducted is nulled by the White Gaurd Code of Conduct. A White Guard's levels stack with Paladin levels to determine the abilities of his special mount, turn undead, and smite evil. Skill Focus(Sense Motive): A White Guard gains Skill Focus(Sense Motive) as a bonus feat. Detect Chaos(Sp): A White Guard can use Detect Chaos(as the spell) at will Smite Chaos(Su): A White Guard can use her Smite Evil ability on Chaotic opponents but must declare that she is smiting chaos and not evil. Burning Blade(Sp): Once per day a White Guard can grant her weapon the Flaming Burst special ability for a duration of 1 round/White Guard level. This ability is equivalant to a 4th level spell. Skill Focus(Diplomacy): A White Guard gains Skill Focus(Diplomacy) as a bonus feat. Detect Law(Sp): A White Guard can use Detect Law(as the spell) at will Smite Law(Su): A White Guard can use her Smite Evil ability on lawful opponents but must declare that she is smiting law and not evil. Forgiving Brand(Su): A White Guard can elect for all the damage she does to be nonlethal, no matter what source the damage comes from. (Smite Evil, Burning Blade, Ect.) Holy Sword(Sp): Once per day, as the spell. The Blue Guard is a Paladin who knows the concept of Law and Good come into conflict, and has choosen Law over Good. A Blue Guard must undergo the "Freezing of the Morals" to advance, Blue Guard Hit Die: d10 Base Attack Fort Ref Will Level Bonus Save Save Save Special 1st +1 +0 +0 +2 True Knight 2nd +2 +0 +0 +3 Skill Focus(Knowledge[Nobility and Royalty]) 3rd +3 +1 +1 +3 Detect Chaos 4th +4 +1 +1 +4 Smite Chaos 5th +5 +1 +1 +4 Chilling Blade 6th +6/+1 +2 +2 +5 Skill Focus(Diplomacy) 7th +7/+2 +2 +2 +5 Detect Good 8th +8/+3 +2 +2 +6 Smite Good 9th +9/+4 +3 +3 +6 Spare the Innocent 10th +10/+5 +3 +3 +7 Axiomatic Sword True Knight(Ex): A Blue Guard retains(or regains) all her Paladin class Features and can contiue advancing in the Paladin class regardless of her new alignment. The Paladin code of conducted is nulled by the Blue Gaurd Code of Conduct. A White Guard's levels stack with Paladin levels to determine the abilities of his special mount, turn undead, and smite evil. Skill Focus(Knowledge[Nobility and Royalty]): A Blue Guard gains Skill Focus(Knowledge[Nobility and Royalty]) as a bonus feat. Detect Chaos(Sp): A Blue Guard can use Detect Chaos(as the spell) at will Smite Chaos(Su): A Blue Guard can use her Smite Evil ability on Chaotic opponents but must declare that she is smiting chaos and not evil. Chilling Blade(Sp): Once per day a Blue Guard can grant her weapon the Cold Burst special ability for a duration of 1 round/Blue Guard level. This ability is equivalant to a 4th level spell. Skill Focus(Diplomacy): A Blue Guard gains Skill Focus(Diplomacy) as a bonus feat. Detect Good(Sp): A Blue Guard can use Detect Good(as the spell) at will Smite Good(Su): A Blue Guard can use her Smite Evil ability on good opponents but must declare that she is smiting good and not evil. Spare the Innocent(Su): A Blue Guard can elect for all the damage she does to be nonlethal, no matter what source the damage comes from. (Smite Evil, Chilling Blade, Ect.) Axiomatic Sword(Sp): As the spell, once per day. Axiomatic Sword Evocation [Law] Level: Pal 4 Components: V, S Casting Time: 1 standard action Range: Touch Target: Melee weapon touched Duration: 1 round/level Saving Throw: None Spell Resistance: No This spell allows you to channel lawful power into your sword, or any other melee weapon you choose. The weapon acts as a +5 axiomatic weapon (+5 enhancement bonus on attack and damage rolls, extra 2d6 damage against chaotic opponents). It also emits a magic circle against chaos effect (as the spell). If the magic circle ends, the sword creates a new one on your turn as a free action. The spell is automatically canceled 1 round after the weapon leaves your hand. You cannot have more than one axiomatic sword at a time. If this spell is cast on a magic weapon, the powers of the spell supersede any that the weapon normally has, rendering the normal enhancement bonus and powers of the weapon inoperative for the duration of the spell. This spell is not cumulative with bless weapon or any other spell that might modify the weapon in any way. This spell does not work on artifacts. Note: A masterwork weapon’s bonus to attack does not stack with an enhancement bonus to attack. The Following is a Semi-Joke class inspired by a joke someone made about a player requestion a Pink Guard. It is not to be held with the same seriousness as the two above classes Pink Guard Hit Die: d10 Base Attack Fort Ref Will Level Bonus Save Save Save Special 1st +1 +0 +2 +2 Aura of Sarcasm 2nd +2 +0 +3 +3 Skill Focus(Perform[dance]) 3rd +3 +1 +3 +3 Detect Law 4th +4 +1 +4 +4 Smite Law 5th +5 +1 +4 +4 Evasion 6th +6/+1 +2 +5 +5 Laughable Strike 7th +7/+2 +2 +5 +5 Mettle 8th +8/+3 +2 +6 +6 Improved Evasion 9th +9/+4 +3 +6 +6 Spare the fool 10th +10/+5 +3 +7 +7 Spoil the wise
Khoran 05-03-07, 09:12 PM	They both look rather cool for PrCs. However, I've got some questions, if you don't mind. Why does the Whiteguard get Burning Blade and why does the Blueguard get Chilling Blade? It dosn't seem to fit if you ask me, since Elemental Damage dosn't really fit into the whole Paladin thing. What are the entry requirements for each class? Blueguard mentions a new code of conduct, could you give details on that? And this last one is a suggestion: I wouldn't give Blueguards Smite Good. You could give them an ability such as Smite Unlawful, which could damage all non-lawful alignments. Or something similar to that.
TheAnthroDM 05-03-07, 10:19 PM	They both look rather cool for PrCs. However, I've got some questions, if you don't mind. I never mind questions. :D Why does the Whiteguard get Burning Blade and why does the Blueguard get Chilling Blade? It dosn't seem to fit if you ask me, since Elemental Damage dosn't really fit into the whole Paladin thing. The White Guard gets burning blade because it symbolizes one of the prerequirements for this class. I will add details soon, I promise. What are the entry requirements for each class? I'll add them after I finish my work on the Gnome and Half-Elf Paragons in my other thread. But here the the alignment requirements: White Guard: Neutral Good Blue Guard: Lawful Neutral Blueguard mentions a new code of conduct, could you give details on that? So does the White Guard, All I can tell you is it's similiar to the Paladin's Code right now. And this last one is a suggestion: I wouldn't give Blueguards Smite Good. You could give them an ability such as Smite Unlawful, which could damage all non-lawful alignments. Or something similar to that. The Idea is they get the ability to smite all alignments other than their own and neutrality.
Khoran 05-03-07, 10:35 PM	The White Guard gets burning blade because it symbolizes one of the prerequirements for this class. I will add details soon, I promise. Ah, if there is fluff behind it with the entry requirements, it's cool. Just seemed a little random to me at first. But here the the alignment requirements: White Guard: Neutral Good Blue Guard: Lawful Neutral Ah, I didn't see the Whiteguard being NG coming, I thought it would be a LG super-paladin. So does the White Guard, All I can tell you is it's similiar to the Paladin's Code right now. Yeah, I figured the Whiteguard one was the Paladin Code, but I was wondering if there was any serious changes in the Blue Guard one. The Idea is they get the ability to smite all alignments other than their own and neutrality. I see. Yeah, I just think, personally, it seems a little off for them to be able to Smite LG myself, but that's just me. Also, one more though. Spellcasting (Something I occasionally forget Paladins have) for these classes, how does it work?
TheAnthroDM 05-03-07, 11:08 PM	Ah, if there is fluff behind it with the entry requirements, it's cool. Just seemed a little random to me at first. The entry requirements involve a ritual that purges all traces of (Good and Evil, or Law and Chaos) from the soul, each does it in a certain way that involves fire or ice. Ah, I didn't see the Whiteguard being NG coming, I thought it would be a LG super-paladin. Nope! Though I can see how you got the impression based on it's first level class feature. I've toyed with the ideo of an uber paladin... but I'm still not sure. (Gold Guard perhaps?) Yeah, I figured the Whiteguard one was the Paladin Code, but I was wondering if there was any serious changes in the Blue Guard one. Not really, the blueguard can use poison that is on the open market... He has to follow the laws of any established nation as long as they don't endanger his duties.... I see. Yeah, I just think, personally, it seems a little off for them to be able to Smite LG myself, but that's just me. It would be rare for them to use it on a LG person, but on a NG person? Easily possible. Also, one more though. Spellcasting (Something I occasionally forget Paladins have) for these classes, how does it work? It doesn't. They gain no spellcasting progression in return for the abilties granted to them, but they retain that feature from levels in the Paladin class.
TheAnthroDM 05-06-07, 08:33 PM	Minor flavor added, but nothing I haven't said already, I need to find my Info skeleton so I can finish it. :bump:
Enchanter_Tom 05-07-07, 12:30 AM	It would help if you formatted the classes better, and I'd give good Fort saves to all of them, plus half-caster progression.
TheAnthroDM 07-12-07, 07:17 PM	Oi, I gotta get this project back on track. No, I will not allow spellcasting progression because I do not want munchkins going "Oh looking here, now let me take one level in cleric and get better progression than the normal paladin". And what do you mean by formatted better?