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Bladecaller Base Class - PEACH [Archive] - Wizards Community

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LordPendragon
07-25-06, 12:26 AM Bladecaller

With the power to summon a weapon from thin air, and a slew of self-enhancing abilities, the Bladecaller never finds herself unprepared.

http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b242/Flammia/Warrior__Cybele_by_Sylfaenn.jpg
Image copyright ~Sylfaenn (http://www.deviantart.com/deviation/36763425/) at DeviantArt.com

Game Rule Information
Bladecallers have the following game statistics.

Abilities - Dexterity is very important for a Bladecaller, due to their lack of armour. Strength and Constitution are also important to those who wish to fight in melee. Charisma is required to cast the Bladecaller's higher level powers.
Alignment - Any.
Hit Die - D10

Class Skills
The Bladecaller's class skills (and the key ability for each skill) are Autohypnosis (Wis), Climb (Str), Concentration (Con), Craft (Int), Hide (Dex), Jump (Str), Knowledge (Psionics) (Int), Listen (Wis), Move Silently (Dex), Profession (Wis), Spot (Wis), and Tumble (Dex)

Skill Points at 1st Level - (4 + Int modifier) x 4
Skill Points at Each Additional Level - 4 + Int modifier

Lvl BAB F R W Features Points Known Lvl
1 0 0 0 2 Chosen Weapons 2 2 1
2 1 0 0 3 Quick Calling 6 2 1
3 2 1 1 3 Fighter Training 11 3 1
4 3 1 1 4 Bonus Feat 17 3 1
5 3 1 1 4 Focus 25 4 1
6 4 2 2 5 35 4 1
7 5 2 2 5 Versatile Calling 46 5 1
8 6 2 2 6 Specialization 58 5 1
9 6 3 3 6 Recurrant Calling 72 6 1
10 7 3 3 7 Quick Buffs 88 6 1
11 8 3 3 7 Advanced Calling 106 7 2
12 9 4 4 8 126 8 2
13 9 4 4 8 Bonus Feat 147 8 2
14 10 4 4 9 170 9 3
15 11 5 5 9 Greater Calling 195 10 3
16 12 5 5 10 221 10 3
17 12 5 5 10 Bonus Feat 250 11 4
18 13 6 6 11 280 11 4
19 14 6 6 11 311 11 4
20 15 6 6 12 Mastery 343 11 4

Class Features
All of the following are class features of the Bladecaller.

Weapon and Armour Proficienies
Bladecallers are proficient with all simple weapons. That's it.

Power Points/Day
A Bladecaller’s ability to manifest powers is limited by the power points she has available. Her base daily allotment of power points is given in the table. In addition, she receives bonus power points per day if she has a high Charisma score. Her race may also provide bonus power points per day, as may certain feats and items.

Powers Known
A Bladecaller begins play knowing two Bladecaller powers of your choice. Each time she achieves certain levels, she unlocks the knowledge of a new power.

Choose the powers known from the Bladecaller power list. (Exception: The feats Expanded Knowledge and Epic Expanded Knowledge do allow a Bladecaller to learn powers from the lists of other classes.) A Bladecaller can manifest any power that has a power point cost equal to or lower than her manifester level.

The total number of powers a Bladecaller can manifest in a day is limited only by her daily power points.

When manifesting a power, the Bladecaller does incur the arcane failure chance for medium and heavy armour.

A Bladecaller simply knows her powers; they are ingrained in her mind. She does not need to prepare them (in the way that some spellcasters prepare their spells), though she must get a good night’s sleep each day to regain all her spent power points.

The Difficulty Class for saving throws against Bladecaller powers is 10 + the power’s level + the Bladecaller’s Charisma modifier.

Maximum Power Level Known
A Bladecaller begins play with the ability to learn 1st-level powers. As she attains higher levels, she may gain the ability to master more complex powers.

To learn or manifest a power, a Bladecaller must have a Charisma score of at least 10 + the power’s level.

Chosen Weapons
At 1st level, the Bladecaller chooses 2 simple or martial weapons, or 1 exotic weapon. She is considered proficient with those weapons; and thereafter, any class feature that makes a reference to chosen weapons is referring to them.

Quick Calling
When using the Call Weaponry power to call her chosen weapon, the Bladecaller may manifest it as an immediate action. If not being augmented, this manifestation costs no power points. She is considered to threaten any squares she can threaten with a called weapon, even when unarmed, but only for the purposes of making attacks of opportunity (ie. she summons a weapon and immediately makes the attack of opportunity with it).

Fighter Training
At 3rd level, the Bladecaller is treated as having a Fighter level equal to her class level minus 2, for the purpose of meeting feat prerequisites.

Bonus Feats
At 4th, 13th, and 17th level, the Bladecaller gains a bonus feat. There is no defined list for the bonus feats, and they change depending on her chosen weapons. As a general rule, any feat that can only apply to a single weapon can be taken as a bonus feat. Any feat that applies to the Bladecaller's chosen weapon - but not to all melee weapons or all ranged weapons - may be taken. Also, if her chosen weapon gives a bonus to any special combat manoeuvres such as disarm or trip, then feats tied to those manoeuvres may be selected as bonus feats. All feat choices are subject to DM approval.

Focus
At 5th level, the Bladecaller gains a +1 bonus to attack with her chosen weapons. This bonus scales up as she advances, and is equal to her class level divided by 8, minimum 1.

Versatile Calling
When using the Call Weaponry power to call her chosen weapon, the Bladecaller may choose to convert part of the numeric enhancement bonus into special properties of the same value. For instance, if she called a +3 longsword, she could instead have called a +2 keen longsword, or a +1 keen flaming longsword, or even a +1 holy longsword. If this ability is used, the weapon must always have at least a +1 enhancement bonus left.

Specialization
At 8th level, the Bladecaller gains a +1 bonus to damage with her chosen weapons. This bonus scales up as she advances, and is equal to her class level divided by 5, minimum 1.

Recurrant Calling
When using the Call Weaponry power to call her chosen weapon, the Bladecaller may choose to summon a weapon with the exact same properties as the last time she used the power. If she does, then this manifestation costs no power points.

Quick Buffs
The Bladecaller may manifest any number of powers from the Blade Caller power list with a range of "you" simultaneously as a standard action.

Advanced Calling
When using the Call Weaponry power to call her chosen weapon, the Bladecaller may augment the power for an additional 3 points per +1 enhancement, instead of the normal 4 points.

Greater Calling
When using the Call Weaponry power to call her chosen weapon, the Bladecaller may augment the power for an additional 2 points per +1 enhancement, instead of the normal 4 points.

Mastery
While wielding her chosen weapon, the Blademaster gains a +4 bonus on all bull rush, disarm, feint, grapple, overrun, sunder, and trip rolls when her weapon is involved.

Bladecaller Powers
These are only those from the core psionics book. Any new psionics that fit the theme of self-improvement may be added as the DM sees fit.

Level 1
Biofeedback
Call Weaponry
Catfall
Force Screen
Inertial Armor
Precognition, Defensive
Precognition, Offensive
Thicken Skin
Vigor

Level 2
Animal Affinity
Body Purification
Body Adjustment
Energy Adaptation, Specified
Prowess

Level 3
Dimension Slide
Keen Edge
Mental Barrier

Level 4
Energy Adaptation
Inertial Barrier

Bladecaller Feats

Weapon Adaptability
Prerequisites - Base attack +6, Weapon Focus (chosen weapon)
Benefits - Any feats that apply a benefit to one of your chosen weapons also apply those benefits to all your other chosen weapons, if those weapons can legally receive the benefits of the feat.
Special - This feat qualifies as a Bladecaller bonus feat.

Broad Focus
Prerequisites - Chosen Weapons class feature
Benefits - Choose two additional simple or martial weapons, or one additional exotic weapon. These weapons are now considered chosen weapons for you.
Special - This feat may be taken multiple times.

And that's about it... comments/criticism/suggestions??
LordPendragon
07-26-06, 07:40 PM Wow... 2 days and no responses. Either it's perfectly balanced, or nobody feels like reading it all the way through.

In either case, I guess a little bump won't hurt :bump:
Sirjohn4
07-27-06, 04:49 PM Interesting idea, I like the picture...
but I have a few questions:
1. How do you determine what you called. You mentioned calling a lv. 3 longsword but I haven't seen anything that says you can do that.
2. In looking at the picture, I reminded of Tenchi Muyo, where Tenchi had to channel his energy into a swordhilt to generate the blade. The girl in the picture seems to be doing that. Is a medium need?
3.out of curiosity, is this based on the mind blade?
LordPendragon
07-27-06, 05:02 PM 1. The Call Weaponry power is what allows you to create a weapon. It has an augmentation cost that allows you to put an enhancement bonus on the weapon.

2. No medium is needed. The weapon simply appears.

3. It is loosely based on the Mind Blade. This was created in response to someone asking for a gish that has a Mind Blade twist to it.
Sirjohn4
07-27-06, 05:19 PM 1. The Call Weaponry power is what allows you to create a weapon. It has an augmentation cost that allows you to put an enhancement bonus on the weapon.

So maybe this should be a class feature instead of a power? maybe no cost but the augmentation?
LordPendragon
07-27-06, 05:52 PM Quick Calling states that it is free to manifest Call Weaponry unless it is being augmented.
Seerow
07-27-06, 05:57 PM 1) There should be a class feature that halves the cost on augmenting the weapon. If you wanted it to be similar to a Soulknife, the Soulknife gets a +9 weapon at all times, you have here a maximum of +5 (though I suppose your specialization bonuses sort of make up for this?)
2) No expansion on a gish? Especially one with bonuses to bullrushing and disarm? =(
3) Buffs as a free action... wow. That's all I have to say about that.
LordPendragon
07-27-06, 06:22 PM 1. Are you guys actually reading the full class?? That ability's already there.

2. Right. No Enlarge, because that would be pretty sick when added to your 3rd concern.

3. Right. Since she is not proficient with armour, or really anything, she needs the buffs quickly to be able to fight effectively. Also, many of her buffs will just be overlapping common magic items she should have; such as Ring of Protection +4. Also take into account that they are a free action, not an immediate action, so she still gets rocked in a surprise round.
Seerow
07-27-06, 06:30 PM 1) Oops, you're right. I missed Advanced and Greater Calling. My bad =P

2) Point. What about Strength of My Enemy? It doesn't seem like it'd be too strong with the quick buffing.
LordPendragon
07-27-06, 07:01 PM Yeah, it probably wouldn't be overbearingly powerful if I included it, but the entire spell list is currently comprised of defensive buffs, and straight-up weapon enhancers; nothing sneaky like poison or ability drain.

I'm thinking of inserting a clause stating that she cannot learn new powers in any way unless she also takes levels in another psionic class. Otherwise a savvy player could just use a feat slot to put Expansion on their list.

Although that would put them down a feat slot... sigh... so many options.
Seerow
07-27-06, 07:03 PM Yeah, it probably wouldn't be overbearingly powerful if I included it, but the entire spell list is currently comprised of defensive buffs, and straight-up weapon enhancers; nothing sneaky like poison or ability drain.

I'm thinking of inserting a clause stating that she cannot learn new powers in any way unless she also takes levels in another psionic class. Otherwise a savvy player could just use a feat slot to put Expansion on their list.

Although that would put them down a feat slot... sigh... so many options.

Cmon, this one's simple. Buff as it currently appears:

Quick Buffs
The Bladecaller may manifest any power with a range of "you" as a free action.

Buff that would eliminate any loopholes:

Quick Buffs
The Bladecaller may manifest any power from the Blade Caller power list with a range of "you" as a free action.
LordPendragon
07-27-06, 07:09 PM Durrrh... I suck.

Thanks :D

If Quick Buffs is slightly overpowered, the other option is to make it "can cast any number of buffs from the class list as a single standard action" or even a move action, if standard isn't good enough.

Also... do psionics incur an arcane failure chance?? I was never clear on that point...
LordPendragon
07-27-06, 09:21 PM Alright, changes...

Changed the implementation of Quick Buffs after realizing that Dimension Slide has a target entry of "you".
Seerow
07-27-06, 09:40 PM No, Psionics don't suffer from spell failure. That's Arcane exclusive.
Sirjohn4
07-28-06, 01:07 AM 1. Are you guys actually reading the full class?? That ability's already there.

O_O'' Sorry dude. Read but didn't click in my mind...

On to next question: Is there A limit on how long the weapon stays? My PHB and Ex Psi HB are on loan to somebody so I can't check...
LordPendragon
07-28-06, 01:11 AM Hmmm... that will be problematic... a little dip into Fighter and our unassuming Bladecaller turns into a walking tank thanks to things like Biofeedback and Inertial Barrier.

I'm going to go against type here, and make arcane spell failure apply in everything except light armour. This makes sense since the class skill list just screams "freedom of movement" as part of this class' style.
benstundze
07-28-06, 01:22 AM Focus
At 5th level, the Bladecaller gains a +1 bonus to attack with her chosen weapons. This bonus scales up as she advances, and is equal to her class level divided by 8, minimum 1.
so at lvl 9 its +2?

Call Weaponry
i think you should make this an ability

Powers Known
maybe make this added by some ability like intel or something

hope this helps
ben
LordPendragon
07-28-06, 01:34 AM Focus - No, it goes up to +2 at level 16 (16/8 = 2).

Call Weaponry - It is an ability... kind of... I suppose I could make it a psi-like or even supernatural ability that mimics the power. I don't see the reason to do so, though... is there any compelling reason why it shouldn't just be left as another power on their list??

Powers Known - As per standard psionics rules, the powers known are not affected, but she does gain extra power points based on her Cha score.
benstundze
07-28-06, 01:41 AM Powers Known - As per standard psionics rules, the powers known are not affected, but she does gain extra power points based on her Cha score.

ok because that’s not on there.

Call Weaponry - It is an ability... kind of... I suppose I could make it a psi-like or even supernatural ability that mimics the power. I don't see the reason to do so, though... is there any compelling reason why it shouldn't just be left as another power on their list??

well at lvl 1 with +2 car mod they get basically 3 abilities instead of 4 and depending on the points it tacks(guessing 1) because thay have to sacrifice 1 ability for the sword they can only summon a sword about 2 a day if not a bit more maybe 4 and that’s not worth anything.
i think the sword should have a round limit, be an ability, and only be able to summon in battle

that seams more friendly to me
LordPendragon
07-28-06, 01:50 AM It does have a time limit, as per the power.

And I'm not sure if you're just skimming through the features or what, but it plainly states in Quick Calling that it is free to manifest the Call Weaponry power unless you augment it. She can call as many normal weapons as she wants (as long as they are chosen weapons).
SnowSage
07-28-06, 02:04 AM It does have a time limit, as per the power.

And I'm not sure if you're just skimming through the features or what, but it plainly states in Quick Calling that it is free to manifest the Call Weaponry power unless you augment it. She can call as many normal weapons as she wants (as long as they are chosen weapons).
I like the class... It's a very well done and well balanced one... actually, I'm trying to make one myself, and I dearly hope it comes out neerly this well... good work, man!
LordPendragon
07-28-06, 02:10 AM I like the class... It's a very well done and well balanced one... actually, I'm trying to make one myself, and I dearly hope it comes out neerly this well... good work, man!Well thank you for the praise.

When you finish your version, post a link in this thread so I can check it out.
SnowSage
07-28-06, 02:27 AM Well thank you for the praise.

When you finish your version, post a link in this thread so I can check it out.
hey... it's kinda embarassing to ask this but... how do you do the table thing with the base saves and attac bonus and class features and stuff? I mean on this site...
Seerow
07-28-06, 02:41 AM hey... it's kinda embarassing to ask this but... how do you do the table thing with the base saves and attac bonus and class features and stuff? I mean on this site...

<code> </code> with [] instead of <>

You have to get the spacing just right, so it takes a bit of work, but it's easy enough to figure out.
SnowSage
07-28-06, 02:43 AM <code> </code> with [] instead of <>

You have to get the spacing just right, so it takes a bit of work, but it's easy enough to figure out.
thanks.
LordPendragon
07-28-06, 02:46 AM The best way to get the right spacing is to do your table in notepad first, and then copy/paste it. Notepad treats all character as the exact same width, so it looks just like it will when it's posted.

Feel free to quote my table and then just copy it.
Seerow
07-28-06, 02:47 AM Not always. Some people change the font on their notepad so it's still all messed up.

Admittedly people who do tend to not be very bright, but they do exist.
LordPendragon
07-28-06, 03:10 AM O_O'' Sorry dude. Read but didn't click in my mind...

On to next question: Is there A limit on how long the weapon stays? My PHB and Ex Psi HB are on loan to somebody so I can't check...Sorry... missed your post earlier.

Yes, there is a 10 minute/level limit on duration, and it also dissipates if you put it down for more than 2 rounds.
SnowSage
07-28-06, 04:16 AM my class (http://boards1.wizards.com/showthread.php?t=675807) You asked me to post a link here, so please, check it out, let me know what you think...
LordPendragon
07-28-06, 09:02 AM I found your class by looking at the forums, but your link is broken.
benstundze
07-28-06, 05:28 PM i still think the class sword should be an ability and i did read it i just dont think its needed
LordPendragon
07-31-06, 04:07 AM It's easier to implement this way, and doesn't require extreme fluffing to make it believable. This way, the class is simply a psionic who specialized in the Call Weaponry power, and in using the weapons she calls.

Besides, why bother making a class feature to do it when there's already a power that does exactly what I want (and is actually what inspired this class).

Post/Author/DateTime	Post
LordPendragon 07-25-06, 12:26 AM	Bladecaller With the power to summon a weapon from thin air, and a slew of self-enhancing abilities, the Bladecaller never finds herself unprepared. http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b242/Flammia/Warrior__Cybele_by_Sylfaenn.jpg Image copyright ~Sylfaenn (http://www.deviantart.com/deviation/36763425/) at DeviantArt.com Game Rule Information Bladecallers have the following game statistics. Abilities - Dexterity is very important for a Bladecaller, due to their lack of armour. Strength and Constitution are also important to those who wish to fight in melee. Charisma is required to cast the Bladecaller's higher level powers. Alignment - Any. Hit Die - D10 Class Skills The Bladecaller's class skills (and the key ability for each skill) are Autohypnosis (Wis), Climb (Str), Concentration (Con), Craft (Int), Hide (Dex), Jump (Str), Knowledge (Psionics) (Int), Listen (Wis), Move Silently (Dex), Profession (Wis), Spot (Wis), and Tumble (Dex) Skill Points at 1st Level - (4 + Int modifier) x 4 Skill Points at Each Additional Level - 4 + Int modifier Lvl BAB F R W Features Points Known Lvl 1 0 0 0 2 Chosen Weapons 2 2 1 2 1 0 0 3 Quick Calling 6 2 1 3 2 1 1 3 Fighter Training 11 3 1 4 3 1 1 4 Bonus Feat 17 3 1 5 3 1 1 4 Focus 25 4 1 6 4 2 2 5 35 4 1 7 5 2 2 5 Versatile Calling 46 5 1 8 6 2 2 6 Specialization 58 5 1 9 6 3 3 6 Recurrant Calling 72 6 1 10 7 3 3 7 Quick Buffs 88 6 1 11 8 3 3 7 Advanced Calling 106 7 2 12 9 4 4 8 126 8 2 13 9 4 4 8 Bonus Feat 147 8 2 14 10 4 4 9 170 9 3 15 11 5 5 9 Greater Calling 195 10 3 16 12 5 5 10 221 10 3 17 12 5 5 10 Bonus Feat 250 11 4 18 13 6 6 11 280 11 4 19 14 6 6 11 311 11 4 20 15 6 6 12 Mastery 343 11 4 Class Features All of the following are class features of the Bladecaller. Weapon and Armour Proficienies Bladecallers are proficient with all simple weapons. That's it. Power Points/Day A Bladecaller’s ability to manifest powers is limited by the power points she has available. Her base daily allotment of power points is given in the table. In addition, she receives bonus power points per day if she has a high Charisma score. Her race may also provide bonus power points per day, as may certain feats and items. Powers Known A Bladecaller begins play knowing two Bladecaller powers of your choice. Each time she achieves certain levels, she unlocks the knowledge of a new power. Choose the powers known from the Bladecaller power list. (Exception: The feats Expanded Knowledge and Epic Expanded Knowledge do allow a Bladecaller to learn powers from the lists of other classes.) A Bladecaller can manifest any power that has a power point cost equal to or lower than her manifester level. The total number of powers a Bladecaller can manifest in a day is limited only by her daily power points. When manifesting a power, the Bladecaller does incur the arcane failure chance for medium and heavy armour. A Bladecaller simply knows her powers; they are ingrained in her mind. She does not need to prepare them (in the way that some spellcasters prepare their spells), though she must get a good night’s sleep each day to regain all her spent power points. The Difficulty Class for saving throws against Bladecaller powers is 10 + the power’s level + the Bladecaller’s Charisma modifier. Maximum Power Level Known A Bladecaller begins play with the ability to learn 1st-level powers. As she attains higher levels, she may gain the ability to master more complex powers. To learn or manifest a power, a Bladecaller must have a Charisma score of at least 10 + the power’s level. Chosen Weapons At 1st level, the Bladecaller chooses 2 simple or martial weapons, or 1 exotic weapon. She is considered proficient with those weapons; and thereafter, any class feature that makes a reference to chosen weapons is referring to them. Quick Calling When using the Call Weaponry power to call her chosen weapon, the Bladecaller may manifest it as an immediate action. If not being augmented, this manifestation costs no power points. She is considered to threaten any squares she can threaten with a called weapon, even when unarmed, but only for the purposes of making attacks of opportunity (ie. she summons a weapon and immediately makes the attack of opportunity with it). Fighter Training At 3rd level, the Bladecaller is treated as having a Fighter level equal to her class level minus 2, for the purpose of meeting feat prerequisites. Bonus Feats At 4th, 13th, and 17th level, the Bladecaller gains a bonus feat. There is no defined list for the bonus feats, and they change depending on her chosen weapons. As a general rule, any feat that can only apply to a single weapon can be taken as a bonus feat. Any feat that applies to the Bladecaller's chosen weapon - but not to all melee weapons or all ranged weapons - may be taken. Also, if her chosen weapon gives a bonus to any special combat manoeuvres such as disarm or trip, then feats tied to those manoeuvres may be selected as bonus feats. All feat choices are subject to DM approval. Focus At 5th level, the Bladecaller gains a +1 bonus to attack with her chosen weapons. This bonus scales up as she advances, and is equal to her class level divided by 8, minimum 1. Versatile Calling When using the Call Weaponry power to call her chosen weapon, the Bladecaller may choose to convert part of the numeric enhancement bonus into special properties of the same value. For instance, if she called a +3 longsword, she could instead have called a +2 keen longsword, or a +1 keen flaming longsword, or even a +1 holy longsword. If this ability is used, the weapon must always have at least a +1 enhancement bonus left. Specialization At 8th level, the Bladecaller gains a +1 bonus to damage with her chosen weapons. This bonus scales up as she advances, and is equal to her class level divided by 5, minimum 1. Recurrant Calling When using the Call Weaponry power to call her chosen weapon, the Bladecaller may choose to summon a weapon with the exact same properties as the last time she used the power. If she does, then this manifestation costs no power points. Quick Buffs The Bladecaller may manifest any number of powers from the Blade Caller power list with a range of "you" simultaneously as a standard action. Advanced Calling When using the Call Weaponry power to call her chosen weapon, the Bladecaller may augment the power for an additional 3 points per +1 enhancement, instead of the normal 4 points. Greater Calling When using the Call Weaponry power to call her chosen weapon, the Bladecaller may augment the power for an additional 2 points per +1 enhancement, instead of the normal 4 points. Mastery While wielding her chosen weapon, the Blademaster gains a +4 bonus on all bull rush, disarm, feint, grapple, overrun, sunder, and trip rolls when her weapon is involved. Bladecaller Powers These are only those from the core psionics book. Any new psionics that fit the theme of self-improvement may be added as the DM sees fit. Level 1 Biofeedback Call Weaponry Catfall Force Screen Inertial Armor Precognition, Defensive Precognition, Offensive Thicken Skin Vigor Level 2 Animal Affinity Body Purification Body Adjustment Energy Adaptation, Specified Prowess Level 3 Dimension Slide Keen Edge Mental Barrier Level 4 Energy Adaptation Inertial Barrier Bladecaller Feats Weapon Adaptability Prerequisites - Base attack +6, Weapon Focus (chosen weapon) Benefits - Any feats that apply a benefit to one of your chosen weapons also apply those benefits to all your other chosen weapons, if those weapons can legally receive the benefits of the feat. Special - This feat qualifies as a Bladecaller bonus feat. Broad Focus Prerequisites - Chosen Weapons class feature Benefits - Choose two additional simple or martial weapons, or one additional exotic weapon. These weapons are now considered chosen weapons for you. Special - This feat may be taken multiple times. And that's about it... comments/criticism/suggestions??
LordPendragon 07-26-06, 07:40 PM	Wow... 2 days and no responses. Either it's perfectly balanced, or nobody feels like reading it all the way through. In either case, I guess a little bump won't hurt :bump:
Sirjohn4 07-27-06, 04:49 PM	Interesting idea, I like the picture... but I have a few questions: 1. How do you determine what you called. You mentioned calling a lv. 3 longsword but I haven't seen anything that says you can do that. 2. In looking at the picture, I reminded of Tenchi Muyo, where Tenchi had to channel his energy into a swordhilt to generate the blade. The girl in the picture seems to be doing that. Is a medium need? 3.out of curiosity, is this based on the mind blade?
LordPendragon 07-27-06, 05:02 PM	1. The Call Weaponry power is what allows you to create a weapon. It has an augmentation cost that allows you to put an enhancement bonus on the weapon. 2. No medium is needed. The weapon simply appears. 3. It is loosely based on the Mind Blade. This was created in response to someone asking for a gish that has a Mind Blade twist to it.
Sirjohn4 07-27-06, 05:19 PM	1. The Call Weaponry power is what allows you to create a weapon. It has an augmentation cost that allows you to put an enhancement bonus on the weapon. So maybe this should be a class feature instead of a power? maybe no cost but the augmentation?
LordPendragon 07-27-06, 05:52 PM	Quick Calling states that it is free to manifest Call Weaponry unless it is being augmented.
Seerow 07-27-06, 05:57 PM	1) There should be a class feature that halves the cost on augmenting the weapon. If you wanted it to be similar to a Soulknife, the Soulknife gets a +9 weapon at all times, you have here a maximum of +5 (though I suppose your specialization bonuses sort of make up for this?) 2) No expansion on a gish? Especially one with bonuses to bullrushing and disarm? =( 3) Buffs as a free action... wow. That's all I have to say about that.
LordPendragon 07-27-06, 06:22 PM	1. Are you guys actually reading the full class?? That ability's already there. 2. Right. No Enlarge, because that would be pretty sick when added to your 3rd concern. 3. Right. Since she is not proficient with armour, or really anything, she needs the buffs quickly to be able to fight effectively. Also, many of her buffs will just be overlapping common magic items she should have; such as Ring of Protection +4. Also take into account that they are a free action, not an immediate action, so she still gets rocked in a surprise round.
Seerow 07-27-06, 06:30 PM	1) Oops, you're right. I missed Advanced and Greater Calling. My bad =P 2) Point. What about Strength of My Enemy? It doesn't seem like it'd be too strong with the quick buffing.
LordPendragon 07-27-06, 07:01 PM	Yeah, it probably wouldn't be overbearingly powerful if I included it, but the entire spell list is currently comprised of defensive buffs, and straight-up weapon enhancers; nothing sneaky like poison or ability drain. I'm thinking of inserting a clause stating that she cannot learn new powers in any way unless she also takes levels in another psionic class. Otherwise a savvy player could just use a feat slot to put Expansion on their list. Although that would put them down a feat slot... sigh... so many options.
Seerow 07-27-06, 07:03 PM	Yeah, it probably wouldn't be overbearingly powerful if I included it, but the entire spell list is currently comprised of defensive buffs, and straight-up weapon enhancers; nothing sneaky like poison or ability drain. I'm thinking of inserting a clause stating that she cannot learn new powers in any way unless she also takes levels in another psionic class. Otherwise a savvy player could just use a feat slot to put Expansion on their list. Although that would put them down a feat slot... sigh... so many options. Cmon, this one's simple. Buff as it currently appears: Quick Buffs The Bladecaller may manifest any power with a range of "you" as a free action. Buff that would eliminate any loopholes: Quick Buffs The Bladecaller may manifest any power from the Blade Caller power list with a range of "you" as a free action.
LordPendragon 07-27-06, 07:09 PM	Durrrh... I suck. Thanks :D If Quick Buffs is slightly overpowered, the other option is to make it "can cast any number of buffs from the class list as a single standard action" or even a move action, if standard isn't good enough. Also... do psionics incur an arcane failure chance?? I was never clear on that point...
LordPendragon 07-27-06, 09:21 PM	Alright, changes... Changed the implementation of Quick Buffs after realizing that Dimension Slide has a target entry of "you".
Seerow 07-27-06, 09:40 PM	No, Psionics don't suffer from spell failure. That's Arcane exclusive.
Sirjohn4 07-28-06, 01:07 AM	1. Are you guys actually reading the full class?? That ability's already there. O_O'' Sorry dude. Read but didn't click in my mind... On to next question: Is there A limit on how long the weapon stays? My PHB and Ex Psi HB are on loan to somebody so I can't check...
LordPendragon 07-28-06, 01:11 AM	Hmmm... that will be problematic... a little dip into Fighter and our unassuming Bladecaller turns into a walking tank thanks to things like Biofeedback and Inertial Barrier. I'm going to go against type here, and make arcane spell failure apply in everything except light armour. This makes sense since the class skill list just screams "freedom of movement" as part of this class' style.
benstundze 07-28-06, 01:22 AM	Focus At 5th level, the Bladecaller gains a +1 bonus to attack with her chosen weapons. This bonus scales up as she advances, and is equal to her class level divided by 8, minimum 1. so at lvl 9 its +2? Call Weaponry i think you should make this an ability Powers Known maybe make this added by some ability like intel or something hope this helps ben
LordPendragon 07-28-06, 01:34 AM	Focus - No, it goes up to +2 at level 16 (16/8 = 2). Call Weaponry - It is an ability... kind of... I suppose I could make it a psi-like or even supernatural ability that mimics the power. I don't see the reason to do so, though... is there any compelling reason why it shouldn't just be left as another power on their list?? Powers Known - As per standard psionics rules, the powers known are not affected, but she does gain extra power points based on her Cha score.
benstundze 07-28-06, 01:41 AM	Powers Known - As per standard psionics rules, the powers known are not affected, but she does gain extra power points based on her Cha score. ok because that’s not on there. Call Weaponry - It is an ability... kind of... I suppose I could make it a psi-like or even supernatural ability that mimics the power. I don't see the reason to do so, though... is there any compelling reason why it shouldn't just be left as another power on their list?? well at lvl 1 with +2 car mod they get basically 3 abilities instead of 4 and depending on the points it tacks(guessing 1) because thay have to sacrifice 1 ability for the sword they can only summon a sword about 2 a day if not a bit more maybe 4 and that’s not worth anything. i think the sword should have a round limit, be an ability, and only be able to summon in battle that seams more friendly to me
LordPendragon 07-28-06, 01:50 AM	It does have a time limit, as per the power. And I'm not sure if you're just skimming through the features or what, but it plainly states in Quick Calling that it is free to manifest the Call Weaponry power unless you augment it. She can call as many normal weapons as she wants (as long as they are chosen weapons).
SnowSage 07-28-06, 02:04 AM	It does have a time limit, as per the power. And I'm not sure if you're just skimming through the features or what, but it plainly states in Quick Calling that it is free to manifest the Call Weaponry power unless you augment it. She can call as many normal weapons as she wants (as long as they are chosen weapons). I like the class... It's a very well done and well balanced one... actually, I'm trying to make one myself, and I dearly hope it comes out neerly this well... good work, man!
LordPendragon 07-28-06, 02:10 AM	I like the class... It's a very well done and well balanced one... actually, I'm trying to make one myself, and I dearly hope it comes out neerly this well... good work, man!Well thank you for the praise. When you finish your version, post a link in this thread so I can check it out.
SnowSage 07-28-06, 02:27 AM	Well thank you for the praise. When you finish your version, post a link in this thread so I can check it out. hey... it's kinda embarassing to ask this but... how do you do the table thing with the base saves and attac bonus and class features and stuff? I mean on this site...
Seerow 07-28-06, 02:41 AM	hey... it's kinda embarassing to ask this but... how do you do the table thing with the base saves and attac bonus and class features and stuff? I mean on this site... <code> </code> with [] instead of <> You have to get the spacing just right, so it takes a bit of work, but it's easy enough to figure out.
SnowSage 07-28-06, 02:43 AM	<code> </code> with [] instead of <> You have to get the spacing just right, so it takes a bit of work, but it's easy enough to figure out. thanks.
LordPendragon 07-28-06, 02:46 AM	The best way to get the right spacing is to do your table in notepad first, and then copy/paste it. Notepad treats all character as the exact same width, so it looks just like it will when it's posted. Feel free to quote my table and then just copy it.
Seerow 07-28-06, 02:47 AM	Not always. Some people change the font on their notepad so it's still all messed up. Admittedly people who do tend to not be very bright, but they do exist.
LordPendragon 07-28-06, 03:10 AM	O_O'' Sorry dude. Read but didn't click in my mind... On to next question: Is there A limit on how long the weapon stays? My PHB and Ex Psi HB are on loan to somebody so I can't check...Sorry... missed your post earlier. Yes, there is a 10 minute/level limit on duration, and it also dissipates if you put it down for more than 2 rounds.
SnowSage 07-28-06, 04:16 AM	my class (http://boards1.wizards.com/showthread.php?t=675807) You asked me to post a link here, so please, check it out, let me know what you think...
LordPendragon 07-28-06, 09:02 AM	I found your class by looking at the forums, but your link is broken.
benstundze 07-28-06, 05:28 PM	i still think the class sword should be an ability and i did read it i just dont think its needed
LordPendragon 07-31-06, 04:07 AM	It's easier to implement this way, and doesn't require extreme fluffing to make it believable. This way, the class is simply a psionic who specialized in the Call Weaponry power, and in using the weapons she calls. Besides, why bother making a class feature to do it when there's already a power that does exactly what I want (and is actually what inspired this class).