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irishpirate420 02-07-08, 07:50 PM	Well this is my first post. Ive made some classes before and have edited some but they never turn out very well. So i figured id finaly sign up and ask for some help on my most recent. I want it to be sneaky but good at fighting and able to find things or people very well. Anyway help would be aprreciated its kind of sketchy right now but i hope someone could give me some thoghts or ideas that i could add to it Bounty Hunter The Bounty Hunter is skilled at finding people or things. They will take money for doing just about anything. They use the land and surroundings to ther advantage to get what they want. They must know how to fight in case they are after people or things adept at fighting. They are somewhat secretive and very greedy. Some may be dodgy of the law and others may in-brace it. The ones that are dodgy will advertise but usualy under different names to keep out of the laws 'eye'. The ones that in-brace the law usauly use it as a way to obtain and capture bountys. ------------- Level |Base Attack |Fort|Ref|Will|Special Bonus 1 |1 |2 |2 |2 |Track, Sneak Attack 1d6 2 |2 |3 |3 |3 |Combat Style Two Weapon Fighting may be gone or replaced by something else 3 |3 |3 |3 |3 |Endurance 4 |4 |4 |4 |4 | 5 |5 |4 |4 |4 |Sneak Attack 2d6 6 |6/1 |5 |5 |5 |Deceitful 7 |7/2 |5 |5 |5 |Investigator 8 |8/3 |6 |6 |6 |Swift Track 9 |9/4 |6 |6 |6 |Improved Combat Style 10 |10/5 |7 |7 |7 |Sneak Attack 3d6 11 |11/6/1 |7 |7 |7 |Evasion 12 |12/7/2 |8 |8 |8 | 13 |13/8/3 |8 |8 |8 |Camouflage 14 |14/9/4 |9 |9 |9 |Combat Style Mastery 15 |15/10/5 |9 |9 |9 |Sneak Attack 4d6 16 |16/11/6/1 |10 |10 |10 | 17 |17/12/7/2 |10 |10 |10 |Hide in plain sight 18 |18/13/8/3 |11 |11 |11 | 19 |19/14/9/4 |11 |11 |11 | 20 |20/15/10/5 |12 |12 |12 |Sneak Attack 5d6 Hit Dice: 1d8 Key Abilities: Dex, Str and Cha is usefull but not all of them use wits and charm but mainly just brute force Alignment: not restricted Class Skills: hide, gather info, survivla, disguise, diplomacy,bluff, escape artist, forgery, intimidate, move silently, search, spote, use rope, knowledge: local Armor and weapon prof.: all simple and martial weapons light armor and shields Skill points: start (4+int)x4 each lvl after 4+int well there it is like i said its a work in progress and the explantion is from someone who never got above a C in "English" classes so bare with it
StevenO 02-07-08, 08:07 PM	How many skill points and what are the starting Weapon and Armor Proficiencies? Assuming the answers are six, all simple & martial, and light plus shields I'd say the class is a little overpowered. I see you are basically going with a spell-less ranger but the addition of the third good save and changing Favored Enemy to the more useful Sneak Attack are what push it over the top. There are a large number of ways to get what you are looking for without building a new class. Even if you decide to keep this you should at least drop the good WILL save. A Bounty Hunter should also be anything BUT chaotic. A chaotic believes in personal freedom which is basically counter the the bounty hunter's view which is to track down some wrong doer.
irishpirate420 02-07-08, 08:31 PM	ya i realized it was overpowered but thats why i posted it to get some feedback so i can get ideas on what to do with it as for the chaotic i imagine that they might get bountys to hunt down good people or steal things from someone for a greedy npc pretty much that theyll do anything to make a couple of bucks just someone who is good at tracking things down and uses it to his advantage the saves i put like a monks just cause there all equal and i didnt realy know where to go with the type of class as for the ranger thing i just wanted him to beable to use two wepons sort of like someone not so good at fighting so they use two weapons so i gues i could know down the BA and they had track wich was pretty much the main point of the character i wanted to change it a bit but couldnt think of how to change it to what i was thinking of i forgot the skill points and proficiencys but i added them
Krusk 02-07-08, 08:58 PM	I am having a hard time understanding the reasoning behind 3 things. 1- must be chaotic- As you have a decent example of a chaotic one, and steven has a good example of a lawful one, shouldn't you ditch the alignment restriction. 2-Why all good saves? I would drop will. 3- Why two weapon fighting? I don't see every single bounty hunter i can think of as being a dual weapon fighter, so why give them the feats? I would suggest you trade them out for some of the bloodhound's -complete adventurer- abilities. Also consider using some of the justicars. - other things i noted. - what is sneak? a combination of hide and move silently that you are using? - are investigater and decietful the feats from phb? -Why is cha a key ability? none of its abilities rely on it. some of its skills do, and on that note consider adding bluff. -you have a lot of misspelled words in here. It helps if you double check before you post. I know some members will not read once they find the ammount you have. - in your description you mention how they are not known about by anyone. How do they attract buisness? I would think they advertise and maybe even have a headquarters.
Oswald Krato 02-07-08, 09:00 PM	Can't this be done with Justiciar and Bloodhound?
irishpirate420 02-07-08, 09:33 PM	Ok i guess i could try and spell better and make things shorter. The sneak skill just got in there cause i made a not to myself and it wound up in there. The two weapon fighting i wanted to change but couldnt figure out how. I never bought the complete adventurer cause a good friend of mine had it but he moved so it might having something i could use. Investigater and decietful are from the phb. I threw them in just as an idea. And i didnt think of the whole way of getting work thing if there so unkown i try and fix that. I guess the alignment thing i could change to suit the player. I guess CHA isnt needed but i kind of figured they would need a good one to get information off of people and things like that. Thanks for the help ill try to get my hands on the CA and change some things.