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kaizer_soatze

09-14-06, 09:56 PM
broly

heres what i got





http://www.animedragon.host.sk/imagens/brolly/brolly04.jpg

breif history on broly for those who dont know


At birth, Goku was born with a power level of 2, while Broly was born with the astonishing level of 10,000. This is an unusually high level of strength, especially for a newly born Saiyan infant, considering that Raditz, who was an average low level adult Saiyan warrior, had a power level of 1,200 in his first appearance. Broly's exceptional gifts marked him as a mutant, possibly even as the Legendary Super Saiyan.
King Vegeta feared the boy and what he might come to be, and gave the order for the infant's execution. Broly's father Paragus begged the king to spare the life of his son, arguing that the powerful Saiyan infant could be an aid to the king's son, the young prince Vegeta. King Vegeta pointed out that the child could actually become powerful enough to overthrow the prince, and ended the argument by sentencing Paragus to death as well, shooting him with a ki blast.
Up until this time since birth, Broly was noticeably disturbed by Goku, who was crying incessantly in the adjoining infant pod. From then on, Broly would hold a grudge against Goku all throughout his life. His troubles would only double, as young Broly's execution was carried out, being stabbed through the chest with a dagger. Both he and his father were thrown in a trench and left to die. While Paragus was severely wounded yet conscious, Broly survived the attempted execution only to grow stronger from the Saiyan ability to recover and increase greatly in strength from cases of near-death.
Later on that same day, Freeza acts on his own fear of the Super Saiyan legend and attacks Planet Vegeta, killing King Vegeta along with the Saiyans' planet. Amid the destruction, Broly sensed the danger and encased himself in a powerful protective shield of ki, grabbing his father and flying him to safety. As the planet was destroyed, the two of them were able to escape without harm. i got this from wikipedia

im probably not doing this good please help

hit dice d10
inteligence -2 ( do to broly homcidal mood swings)




lvl bab fort ref will special
1 +1 +2 +2 +0 throwing blaster 1d6 or d8 please help
2 +2 +3 +3 +0
3 +3 +3 +3 +1
4 +4 +4 +4 +1
5 +5 +4 +4 +1
6 +6 +5 +5 +2
7 +7 +5 +5 +2
8 +8 +6 +6 +2
9 +9 +6 +6 +3
10 +10 +7 +7 +3


11 +11 +7 +7 +3
12 +12 +8 +8 +4
13 +13 +8 +8 +4
14 +14 +9 +9 +4
15 +15 +9 +9 +5
16 +16 +10 +10 +5
17 +17 +10 +10 +5
18 +18 +11 +11 +6
19 +19 +11 +11 +6
20 +20 +12 +12 +6
Phantom Lord

09-14-06, 10:08 PM
Perhaps this (http://boards1.wizards.com/showthread.php?t=404567) is what you are looking for?
Kojin_Delacour

09-14-06, 10:35 PM
Nice but no abilities?
kaizer_soatze

09-14-06, 10:35 PM
I need help please
Kojin_Delacour

09-14-06, 10:39 PM
broly can't be done without screwing with mechanics. legendary was a permanent ss1 and much stronger than ss3. to add this overpowers things greatly. maybe you should give it a medium bab like the monk. but try it in a prc and maybe we can get it to work with the saiyan warrior. maybe you could make it need feats to take and a certain level requirement. take in mind legendary is far stronger than my classes ss3.
kaizer_soatze

09-14-06, 11:34 PM
ok demon slayer please can you do this its fun

http://boards1.wizards.com/showthread.php?p=9901566
demonslayer81

09-15-06, 12:07 AM
it looks pretty sweet spencer
since hes like a barbarian he can use a d12 for hit dice.
last he should get bonuses in strength and constitution.

P.s. U forgot to write what skills he can have, special feats, transformations and there modifiers.
kaizer_soatze

09-15-06, 12:09 AM
I did do base attacks bonus and i need help with the other stuff
kaizer_soatze

09-15-06, 12:20 AM
this is what wiki says







Childhood
At birth, Goku was born with a power level of 2, while Broly was born with the astonishing level of 10,000. This is an unusually high level of strength, especially for a newly born Saiyan infant, considering that Raditz, who was an average low level adult Saiyan warrior, had a power level of 1,200 in his first appearance. Broly's exceptional gifts marked him as a mutant, possibly even as the Legendary Super Saiyan.
King Vegeta feared the boy and what he might come to be, and gave the order for the infant's execution. Broly's father Paragus begged the king to spare the life of his son, arguing that the powerful Saiyan infant could be an aid to the king's son, the young prince Vegeta. King Vegeta pointed out that the child could actually become powerful enough to overthrow the prince, and ended the argument by sentencing Paragus to death as well, shooting him with a ki blast.
Up until this time since birth, Broly was noticeably disturbed by Goku, who was crying incessantly in the adjoining infant pod. From then on, Broly would hold a grudge against Goku all throughout his life. His troubles would only double, as young Broly's execution was carried out, being stabbed through the chest with a dagger. Both he and his father were thrown in a trench and left to die. While Paragus was severely wounded yet conscious, Broly survived the attempted execution only to grow stronger from the Saiyan ability to recover and increase greatly in strength from cases of near-death.
Later on that same day, Freeza acts on his own fear of the Super Saiyan legend and attacks Planet Vegeta, killing King Vegeta along with the Saiyans' planet. Amid the destruction, Broly sensed the danger and encased himself in a powerful protective shield of ki, grabbing his father and flying him to safety. As the planet was destroyed, the two of them were able to escape without harm.
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First encounter


Broly's Rampage
As Broly grew to adulthood, Paragus realized all was not well. As insane as the boy's level of power was, his mental and emotional instability was greater. Paragus had lost whatever influence he might have had over his son. Fearing for his safety, and believing Broly would destroy world after world if left to his own strength, Paragus had a scientist create a special control device to keep Broly under restraint. Being successful at controlling Broly, Paragus initiates a plan to rekindle Saiyan dominance, plotting to use Earth as a base of operations and have revenge on the only son of King Vegeta. When Goku appeared, Broly remembered the past and became very angry and uncontrollable, and his next encounter with Goku led to him breaking the restraint of the control device. No longer under the device's control, he kills his own father, and unleashes a rampage on Goku, Vegeta, Gohan, Trunks, and Piccolo, and nearly defeats them all until they channeled all of their energy into Goku, who used the energy for one last powerful punch that seemingly killed Broly.
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Return of Broly
Broly, who managed to survive after his battle with Goku and somehow get inside a Saiyan Space Pod, coincidently landed on Earth. The impact crater caused by his landing filled up with water and froze over time, and he himself fell into a coma. While Broly was still in a coma, Gohan grew up, Goten was born and Goku had died. Out of pure coincidence, Goten happened to cry within hearing distance of Broly, awaking the Saiyan from his coma in all his fury. Once awakened, Broly tried to seek his revenge on Goten, mistaking him for Goku. Despite Broly's main target being Son Goten, Trunks, Son Gohan and Videl became victims to his brutal rampage as well. It was only after spiritual help from Goku that they were able to destroy Broly, by hitting him with a Kamehameha straight to the sun.
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Bio-Broly


Broly's Bio-Clone: Bio-Broly
Soon thereafter, it is revealed that a sample of Broly's blood had been preserved, which was used to clone Broly in a bioengineering laboratory that created bio warriors. With his overwhelming power, the awakened Broly clone shatters the bio-liquid tank in which he was created. Once exposed to open air, the bio-liquid that drenched the Broly clone became a very corrosive fluid that devoured any cellular matter that was not like itself and gained strength and energy as it consumed, turning the Broly clone into a bio-mutant. Bio-Broly goes on a rampage, attacking everything in his path including Goten, Trunks, Kuririn, Jinz?'ningen 18, and even Mr. Satan who are present there answering a challenge from the owner of the laboratory. Bio-Broly's destructive force causes a great leak in the bio-liquid containers, spilling the bio-liquid throughout the laboratory and the island on which it was located. He continues on with his vendetta until he is lured into a shower of the mutating bio-liquid. Thinking they had seen the last of him, Goten and Trunks, along with the others escape from the laboratory and fire ki blasts onto the sea causing a massive tidal wave to flood the island, solidifying the remaining bio-liquid since water was the only thing capable of stopping it. Astonishingly, however, Bio-Broly reemerged on from the sea as a mutated giant only to be solidified by the sea water as well. Seeing their opportunity to attack, Goten and Trunks blasted the solidified Bio-Broly collapsing back into the sea.
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Forms and transformations

(A common misconception is that Broly is the same Saiyan that Vegeta referred to when he related the Super Saiyan legend to Goku. Although Broly was referred to as the Legendary Super Saiyan, he would be far too young to be the Super Saiyan of that legend, being that he is the same age as Goku. The Super Saiyan in the legend lived and self destructed long before Broly, Goku, and Vegeta were even born.)

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Base
This is Broly's base stage. In this stage Broly has long, black hair and a calm look on his face , mostly because of the control device on his head since he is just insane without it. He is considered to be frail looking by Trunks when he calls him a "toothpick" in reference to his tall thin demenor. In Movie 8, he is in this stage for as long as he is wearing the special device on his forehead that restricts his power. However, after seeing Goku a second time, he almost lost control. In Movie 10, Broly is in this stage at the beginning of the film when he falls into a coma. He awoke after hearing Goten's crying.
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Super Saiyan
The form Broly takes during his first fight against Goku is actually his Super Saiyan form. In this transformation his muscles swell slightly. The blue/green hair and dark skin are caused by the device his father attached on Broly's forehead in order to control, calm, and tame him to a certain extent. When activated, it automatically restricts Broly from surpassing this form. However, when Broly and Goku come face to face for a second time, Broly's anger becomes too strong for the device to control, shattering it, and allowing Broly to transcend to Legendary Super Saiyan.


Broly's various transformations. In order, left to right: Base, Restricted Super Saiyan, Regular Super Saiyan and Legendary Super Saiyan
(Note that once Broly was freed from the device's control, the appearance of his Super Saiyan form returned to that of a normal Super Saiyan. The full transformation is demonstrated soon after awakening on Earth.)
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Legendary Super Saiyan
As the maniacal Legendary Super Saiyan, Broly's size, muscle mass, strength, and speed are extraordinarily far beyond that of any Super Saiyan to the point of being ridiculous. Additionally, his irises and pupils in his eyes seemingly disappear, and unlike other Super Saiyan forms that decrease energy due to effects such as fatigue, this form gradually increases his energy as a battle continues, adding to the awesomeness of his strength. His seeming invincibility stems from his power, not his muscles.
(Note that Broly's hair held a lime green tinge while being in this form because of a side-effect caused by the sudden release from his father's control device. Broly's next appearance in this form shows the lime green tinge no longer present.)
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Bio-Broly
This form was a completely separate entity rather than another transformation of the original Broly. Bio-Broly was the bioengineered clone of the Legendary Super Saiyan, and though it lacked some of Broly's most distinguishable traits such as his extraordinary strength and speed, it still retained Broly's notable recklessness, and lack of compassion. Soon after awakening, Bio-Broly's overwhelming power shattered the bio-liquid tank in which he was created, spilling the bio-liquid. Once exposed to open air, the bio-liquid became a very corrosive fluid that devoured any cellular matter that was not like itself and gained strength and energy as it consumed, which explained why the Broly clone was capable of surviving in it. The only weakness that this fluid possessed was that it could be solidified by water. Thus, solidifying all genetic material it had absorbed along with it, including Bio-Broly.
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Techniques and special abilities



Broly, as he appears in Budokai 3.
(From Dragon Ball Z: Budokai 3)
Blaster Shell: Broly throws a green shell shaped energy blast.
Gigantic Press: Broly brutaly tackles the enemy with a green aura surrounding him.
Gigantic Meteor: Broly shoots a small energy ball that grows in size than explodes, making a wasteland.
(From Dragon Ball Z: Budokai Tenkaichi)
Eraser Cannon: Broly Shoots an energy ball.
High Power Rush: Attacks with a combo of bone-breaking punches and kicks.
Throwing Blaster: A larger and more powerful version of Eraser Cannon.
(From Dragon Ball Z: Super Sonic Warriors 2)
Blaster Meteor
Planet Geyser
Gigantic Spike
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demonslayer81

09-15-06, 12:23 AM
Like what?
kaizer_soatze

09-15-06, 12:27 AM
class features attacks deatials
kaizer_soatze

09-15-06, 12:38 AM
im going to bed sorry
:(
Kojin_Delacour

09-15-06, 06:19 PM
how is this for starters.

Brolly
Hit Die: d12
Requirements: Must be Chaotic Evil
Class Skills:
Class skills (Balance, Bluff, Climb, Craft, Intimidate, Jump, Listen, Sense Motive, Spot, and Tumble)
Skill Points at 1st level: (4 + Int mod.)x 4
Skill Points every level after: 4 + Int mod


level BAB Fort Ref Will Special
1st +1 +2 +2 +0 Blaster Shell
2nd +2 +3 +3 +0
3th +3 +3 +3 +1
4th +4 +4 +4 +1
5th +5 +4 +4 +1
6th +6/+1 +5 +5 +2
7th +7/+2 +5 +5 +2
8th +8/+3 +6 +6 +2
9th +9/+4 +6 +6 +3
10th +10/+5 +7 +7 +3
11th +11/+6/+1 +7 +7 +3
12th +12/+7/+2 +8 +8 +4
13th +13/+8/+3 +8 +8 +4
14th +14/+9/+4 +9 +9 +4
15th +15/+10/+5 +9 +9 +5
16th +16/+11/+6/+1 +10 +10 +5
17th +17/+12/+7/+2 +10 +10 +5
18th +18/+13/+8/+3 +11 +11 +6
19th +19/+14/+9/+4 +11 +11 +6
20th +20/+15/+10/+5 +12 +12 +6


Thats all I got so far. Having a little trouble with this one Kaizer. I'll add more once I get it figured out. Sorry people if you disagree with alignment but Brolly was evil. If your not going for the whole rage turns bloody thing then debate the alignment.
Kojin_Delacour

09-15-06, 06:32 PM
Blaster Shell (Sp): It is a ranged touch attack that affects a single target, allowing no saving throw. It has a range of 60ft. It deals 1d6 damage at 1st level and increases in damage as the class progresses. It is the equavalent of a spell whose level is equal to one-half the Brolly class levels(rounded down), with a minimum spell level of 1st and a maximum of 10th and does allow for spell resistance. If the blaster shell is performed in melee combat it does provoke an attack of opportunity, in addition it cannot be performed unless unarmed. For every d6 damage you must pay 4 Ki Points. You may choose to weaken it. Example: 3rd level blaster shell deals 2d6 damage instead you could pay only 4 Ki Points to have it deal 1d6 damage.


Note: The damage increases at every odd level by 1d6. There will be additions to the blaster shell once the transformations are applied.
kaizer_soatze

09-15-06, 06:33 PM
lets give blaster shell 1d8
and -2 inteligence we need to figure out super sayain forms I might give 1,2,3,4 please no one go "but he didnt get that far I Dont CARE
kaizer_soatze

09-15-06, 06:36 PM
woops you posted blaster shell while i was typing good job
Kojin_Delacour

09-15-06, 06:42 PM
1d8 is too much damage for base. Maybe try working that into the transformation. I know you said not to say it but please keep in mind that once you go legendary super saiyan you can't go back. Now with that said you should make the last form legendary ss. Its cool to go ss1 but i'd restrict it until higher level like maybe 7th. You should only give it two attacks and i'll add in flurry of blows seeing how he could bash multiple people.
kaizer_soatze

09-15-06, 06:48 PM
in the movies he trans formed and went back, how high should, the ss form be before legandary and should your ki multiply while in kao ken ss forms ?

if so how bout this for super sayain

ss1*4
ultra ss*5
ss2*6
ss3*7
ss4*8
ss5*9
ss6*10
ss7*11
ss8*12
ss9*13
ss10*14
ss legend *15


and how bout oozaru
like *10
Kojin_Delacour

09-15-06, 06:57 PM
I don't think it should multiply because his constitution increase will give him more ki points. As far as the forms go he could go ss1 and then back but once he entered his legendary ss1 form he couldn't go back. I'll see if I can come up with something based off my ss forms. Might wanna try giving him his ki shield. Making that block damage equal to half the number of ki points spent. I'd start ss1 at 6th level and legendary ss1 at 12th level. But since your going to do all the ss forms then you may end up making a prc class to fit them all. btw you can't give negatives to stats with classes; thats a race thing I think.
kaizer_soatze

09-15-06, 07:13 PM
im not going to be on the inter net tiil tuesday night :(
Kojin_Delacour

09-15-06, 07:19 PM
So what do you want to get done before you head off today?
kaizer_soatze

09-18-06, 12:29 PM
im back
Dionon

09-18-06, 02:17 PM
Why doesn't this stop? Brolly is, and I repeat IS

-a Monster of Legend aka the Legendary Super Saiyajin...
kaizer_soatze

09-18-06, 02:52 PM
Dionon I do not want to be rude but youre being a jerk ok i saw the other classes and races people made and would go on youre dbz meh meh meh Ok STOP IT
Dionon

09-18-06, 04:21 PM
I'll voice my opinion where and when I want. You're a fool, and so is anyone else out there that wants to make a freakin normal level super saiyajin. The mechanic doesnt work with DBZ, even Kojin's who honestly has come the closest to making it work doesnt really work well....

Brolly is the equivilant to DBZ's version of the Tarasque... So yeah, go ahead, make him a flippin class, that's fine... When you DM can I play a tarrasque Fighter? It's ok, cause it's on par with what your making!
kaizer_soatze

09-18-06, 05:04 PM
calm down ok you need to understand that when you go into a fit of rage and have rant on how your opinion is superoir its just a game ok people dont need to hear "well its too good and my stuff is better 'cause im lord of the freakin universe" people enjoy aving fun not being critqued by someone who will keep yelling about the same thing jeez


would you like to help me or not if not dont frekin post with your freakin opinion
Dionon

09-18-06, 05:09 PM
All I said was that Brolly was a monster of legend, as in the template.... in DnD terms, I'm right... then you call me a jerk and tell me to shut up? Sorry if that makes me angry....

Anyway, I'd be happy to help you with this, but first I need to know exactly what you want, cause honestly, if you don't like MOnster of Legend, Legendary Super Saiyajin sounds more like a template to me.
kaizer_soatze

09-18-06, 05:18 PM
thank you
now I need help with with specials im trying also working on something for the entire DBZ class/race power levels i figured it out at starting at lvl to determine your starting ki you roll3d100 then * hd *con mod
and for blasts at lvl 1 you can put a maximum of500 or 750 points into a blast (need help) and and maximum of 3 * your hit dice at once :) and im working on scouters
kaizer_soatze

09-21-06, 05:50 PM
:bump:
Kojin_Delacour

09-22-06, 05:25 PM
Wow I can't believe that all this arguing started over one little class idea. Beat me for saying this but after trying this Broly idea I can honestly say I agree with Dionon. Brolly should be tried as a template for epic level after taking class levels of a saiyan. If not mine then try the other one. I like that you tried this but I don't see how it could effectively work.
kaizer_soatze

09-24-06, 10:27 PM
bump
kaizer_soatze

09-27-06, 10:37 AM
:bump:
kaizer_soatze

09-27-06, 06:52 PM
:fett: :fett: :fett: :fett: :fett: :fett: :fett: :fett: :fett: :fett: :bump: :bump: :bump:
kaizer_soatze

09-27-06, 10:13 PM
bumpfett:fett: :bump: :fett: :bump: :fett: :fett: :bump: :bump: :bump: :fett:
Kojin_Delacour

09-29-06, 06:16 PM
Here you go this is my version of what Broly should be so take it or leave it. Its not done yet but you can see where I was going with this.

Broly Monster of Legend
Ability Score Increases


Str +10
Dex +6
Con +10
Int -2
Wis +0
Cha +0


Size: Increase the base creature's size to large.

Hit Dice: All the base creature's hit dice change to d10's.

Speed: Same as base creature's.

AC: Increase the base creature's natural armor by +5.

Attacks: Same as base creature.

Damage: All unarmed damage increases to d10's.

Special Attacks

Blaster Shell: The blaster shell is an energy ball attack with a range of 60ft. It is a ranged touch attack that affects a single target, allowing no saving throw. The blaster shell deals 1d8 damage and increases in damage as his HD increase. If the blaster shell is performed in melee combat it does not provoke an attack of opportunity, in addition the blaster shell cannot be performed unless unarmed.
Note: Damage progression as follows:HD 1,3,5,7,9,11,14,17,19... The damage increases 1d8 at each of those HD.

Frightful Presence: For description refer to MM2 under Monsters of Legend.

Special Qualities

Damage Reduction: 10/+1

Fast Healing: 5

Haste: Creature is under the effects of the Haste spell.

Immunities: Fear and mind-affects

Subtype: Chaotic

Saves: Creature gains +3 on all saves.

Feats: Creature is treated as having the Improved Initiative feat.

Skills: Same as base creature.
kaizer_soatze

09-29-06, 07:19 PM
thank you woot and mabye as a 15th hit dice teqhnique(i spelled that wrong)gigantic meteor attack consumes 50 points deals 20d6 :)
Kojin_Delacour

09-29-06, 07:26 PM
This is a legend so you'd want that last big attack to hit for alot more than normal and also its SS1 transformation would increase stats by str +2, dex +2, and con by +2. Add that to the exsisting SS1 trans I have made and there you go. When he transforms into his legendary SS1 form give him SS2 stats. He will come out stronger than the normal super saiyan due to the fact that these stats stack with the saiyan race stats so there is really no need to increase the form too much.
kaizer_soatze

09-29-06, 07:32 PM
ok at first hd restricted ss form same effects as your super sayain form but 3/4 the power and a 1/4 longer duration
Kojin_Delacour

09-29-06, 07:39 PM
Right... just increase the SS1 transformation stats all by +2 and double the duration for that transformation. Seeing how broly had more power and stamina than the others he could last longer.
kaizer_soatze

10-02-06, 11:07 AM
bump
malykoth

10-02-06, 11:49 AM
Man, I thought this thread was about a cool fighter that used an umbrella for a weapon (like John Steed in "Avengers"). :weep:
kaizer_soatze

10-02-06, 12:17 PM
o..k
kaizer_soatze

10-02-06, 04:18 PM
bump
kaizer_soatze

10-02-06, 05:52 PM
bump
WizO_Cat

10-02-06, 06:58 PM
Please note that the most a thread can be bumped b the same guests is once over a 48 hour period. Thanks.
kaizer_soatze

10-04-06, 07:05 PM
bump
kaizer_soatze

10-05-06, 09:10 PM
restricted super sayain form During this form the sayain hairs becomes a spiky purplegoing down to his shoulder blades and he gains +6 strength +5 dexterity and a +6 to his constitution modifier he is able to sustain this form for 2 +his con modifier ronds also he gains a +3 AC bonus he gains this ability at 1st HD
Kojin_Delacour

10-05-06, 09:14 PM
are you using the collar to restrict his powers?
kaizer_soatze

10-05-06, 09:16 PM
im not sure that is tricky but thid is just like kao ken at first level (well kind of)
Kojin_Delacour

10-05-06, 09:21 PM
no no.... broly doesn't have kaio ken. only super saiyan and then legendary super saiyan. the collar didn't restrict his super saiyan powers though.
kaizer_soatze

10-05-06, 09:27 PM
i pretty sure it moniterd his anger and power level and limted his power so when he attempted to become a super sayain he olnly got so farhttp://ssj-goku.ifrance.com/ssj-goku/broly2.jpg








see
Kojin_Delacour

10-05-06, 09:33 PM
that my good friend is his super saiyan form
kaizer_soatze

10-05-06, 09:34 PM
give me a second
kaizer_soatze

10-05-06, 09:35 PM
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/0/0b/BrolyTransformations.JPG ok here we are his forms left to right
Kojin_Delacour

10-05-06, 09:37 PM
what movie was the third picture from?
kaizer_soatze

10-05-06, 09:38 PM
his second one thats ss1
Kojin_Delacour

10-05-06, 09:41 PM
i know that but what movie was the 3rd picture from. I have all the broly movies and I wanted to look.
kaizer_soatze

10-05-06, 09:42 PM
broly second coming is the movie
Kojin_Delacour

10-05-06, 09:45 PM
broly was legendary super saiyan in that movie. so then what form is that?
kaizer_soatze

10-05-06, 09:47 PM
super sayain 1 he had two forms in that movie when he first appeared he was ss 1
Kojin_Delacour

10-05-06, 09:49 PM
i have to disagree with you on that. only because once you transform to legendary you can't go back. broly was in his legendary form when the second coming started.
kaizer_soatze

10-05-06, 09:51 PM
now i need to disagree with that were in the world does it say once you transform you cant change back
Kojin_Delacour

10-05-06, 09:56 PM
in the first movie. Paragas tells everyone that its a permanent transformation because he has been trying to keep it from happening since broly's birth. because he knew everyone would dead if that happened.
kaizer_soatze

10-05-06, 09:58 PM
i didnt see that le mee chekis is towards the end middle beggening
Kojin_Delacour

10-05-06, 10:00 PM
he told it while broly was transforming to legendary. he was standing next to goku and vegeta when he told everyone.
kaizer_soatze

10-05-06, 10:01 PM
umm i cant chek i dont have the movie I olnly have second coming but I looked on wiki pedia and ill lokk on dragonballz.com
Kojin_Delacour

10-05-06, 10:03 PM
ok no problem
kaizer_soatze

10-05-06, 10:10 PM
this what dbz .com says


With his father's manipulative hand pulling the strings, Broly is unleashed upon an unsuspecting galaxy. Broly desires nothing but total domination over all he surveys and will destroy anyone or anything in his way. Goku vows to stop the rampaging Saiyan before he annihilates another planet, but he may not have the strength. Only time will tell if Broly, the Legendary Super Saiyan, becomes his own worst enemy.



and this what wiki says





Childhood
At birth, Goku was born with a power level of 2, while Broly was born with the astonishing level of 10,000. This is an unusually high level of strength, especially for a newly born Saiyan infant, considering that Raditz, who was an average low level adult Saiyan warrior, had a power level of 1,200 in his first appearance. Broly's exceptional gifts marked him as a mutant, possibly even as the Legendary Super Saiyan.
King Vegeta feared the boy and what he might come to be, and gave the order for the infant's execution. Broly's father Paragus begged the king to spare the life of his son, arguing that the powerful Saiyan infant could be an aid to the king's son, the young prince Vegeta. King Vegeta pointed out that the child could actually become powerful enough to overthrow the prince, and ended the argument by sentencing Paragus to death as well, shooting him with a ki blast.
Up until this time since birth, Broly was noticeably disturbed by Goku, who was crying incessantly in the adjoining infant pod. From then on, Broly would hold a grudge against Goku all throughout his life. His troubles would only double, as young Broly's execution was carried out, being stabbed through the chest with a dagger. Both he and his father were thrown in a trench and left to die. While Paragus was severely wounded yet conscious, Broly survived the attempted execution only to grow stronger from the Saiyan ability to recover and increase greatly in strength from cases of near-death.
Later on that same day, Freeza acts on his own fear of the Super Saiyan legend and attacks Planet Vegeta, killing King Vegeta along with the Saiyans' planet. Amid the destruction, Broly sensed the danger and encased himself in a powerful protective shield of ki, grabbing his father and flying him to safety. As the planet was destroyed, the two of them were able to escape without harm.
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The legend


Broly's Rampage
As Broly grew to adulthood, Paragus realized all was not well. As astonishing as the boy's level of power was, his mental and emotional instability was greater. Paragus had lost whatever influence he might have had over his son. Fearing for his safety, and believing Broly would destroy world after world if left to his own strength, Paragus had a scientist create a special control device to keep Broly under restraint. Being successful at controlling Broly, Paragus initiates a plan to rekindle Saiyan dominance, plotting to use Earth as a base of operations and have revenge on the only son of King Vegeta. When Goku appeared, Broly remembered the past and became very angry and uncontrollable, and his next encounter with Goku led to him breaking the restraint of the control device. No longer under the device's control, he kills his own father, and unleashes a rampage on Goku, Vegeta, Gohan, Trunks, and Piccolo, and nearly defeats them all until they channeled all of their energy into Goku, who used the energy for one last powerful punch that seemingly killed Broly.
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Second coming
Broly, who managed to survive after his battle with Goku and somehow get inside a Saiyan Space Pod, coincidently landed on Earth. The impact crater caused by his landing filled up with water and froze over time, and he himself fell into a coma. While Broly was still in a coma, Gohan grew up, Goten was born and Goku had died. Out of pure coincidence, Goten happened to cry within hearing distance of Broly, awaking the Saiyan from his coma in all his fury. Once awakened, Broly tried to seek his revenge on Goten, mistaking him for Goku. Despite Broly's main target being Son Goten, Trunks, Son Gohan and Videl became victims to his brutal rampage as well. It was only after spiritual help from Goku and a Kamehameha wave that they were able to send Broly straight through the sun.
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Bio-Broly


Broly's Bio-Clone: Bio-Broly
Soon thereafter, it is revealed that a sample of Broly's blood had been preserved, which was used to clone Broly in a bioengineering laboratory that created bio warriors. With his overwhelming power, the awakened Broly clone shatters the bio-liquid tank in which he was created. Once exposed to open air, the bio-liquid that drenched the Broly clone became a very corrosive fluid that devoured any cellular matter that was not like itself and gained strength and energy as it consumed, turning the Broly clone into a bio-mutant. Bio-Broly goes on a rampage, attacking everything in his path including Goten, Trunks, Kuririn, Jinz?'ningen 18, and even Mr. Satan who are present there answering a challenge from the owner of the laboratory. Bio-Broly's destructive force causes a great leak in the bio-liquid containers, spilling the bio-liquid throughout the laboratory and the island on which it was located. He continues on with his vendetta until he is lured into a shower of the mutating bio-liquid. Thinking they had seen the last of him, Goten and Trunks, along with the others escape from the laboratory and fire ki blasts onto the sea causing a massive tidal wave to flood the island, solidifying the remaining bio-liquid since water was the only thing capable of stopping it. Astonishingly, however, Bio-Broly reemerged on from the sea as a mutated giant only to be solidified by the sea water as well. Seeing their opportunity to attack, Goten and Trunks blasted the solidified Bio-Broly collapsing back into the sea.
Kojin_Delacour

10-05-06, 10:16 PM
but that doesn't answer the question
kaizer_soatze

10-05-06, 10:20 PM
It didnt say anything about him staying in that form ok plese watch second coming and when broly attacks videl he is ss 1
Kojin_Delacour

10-05-06, 10:27 PM
i'm watching them all now and i still say he is legendary. the first movie tells that about him.
kaizer_soatze

10-05-06, 10:31 PM
we need a second opinion but then againwe dont need to argue this
Kojin_Delacour

10-05-06, 10:37 PM
well on to something else.... have you tried the z-fighter class and the broly template.
kaizer_soatze

10-05-06, 10:46 PM
not the z fighter class but a final fantasy base one im going to take levels in the z fighter though eventually just added the broly template to my character
kaizer_soatze

10-05-06, 10:47 PM
its scary i have a strength score of 41 and im lvl4
Kojin_Delacour

10-05-06, 10:55 PM
Wow thats alot of strength. I'm running the z-fighter along with 2 other people and one of them wants to become the legendary saiyan but i'm not allowing it.
kaizer_soatze

10-05-06, 11:35 PM
I was looking at your legendary super sayain form and compared to super sayain 4 its a wimp all the scores should be around four more then the scores for legend than ss4 form k
Kojin_Delacour

10-06-06, 12:03 AM
we threw out the ss4. decided that we hated gt so much that we couldn't do it.
kaizer_soatze

10-06-06, 12:11 AM
ok
kaizer_soatze

10-06-06, 07:53 PM
bump
kaizer_soatze

10-06-06, 11:44 PM
ok im working on a new legendary legendary form str +19 dex+15 con+19 and a dodge bonus 12ish atained at 10th hd
Kojin_Delacour

10-07-06, 12:49 AM
no no way to high. thats way too overpowered kaizer.
kaizer_soatze

10-07-06, 12:55 AM
mmmk any sugetions?
DoomSquirrel718

10-07-06, 03:48 AM
Legendary Sayian= Paragon Sayian?
kaizer_soatze

10-07-06, 11:05 AM
whats paragon
DoomSquirrel718

10-07-06, 11:20 AM
Paragon (http://boards1.wizards.com/leaving.php?destination=http://www.d20srd.org/srd/epic/monsters/paragonCreature.htm)
Originally from the Epic Level Handbook
Apparently the flavor was removed from this description. Basically only one paragon exists in any given race, at any given time (or they're extremely uniique anyways)
Several related threads exist on these boards if you care to hunt for them.
Kojin_Delacour

10-08-06, 08:26 AM
yes broly was the only legendary saiyan but he wasn't the first of his race. you can't give broly paragon template. well you can but it overpowers it all. monster of legend and do some work on the power ups. thats all this really needs and its still too powerful then. broly just wasn't meant for dnd. its taken me a long time to get the saiyan warrior and the z-fighter balanced out enough. this is something that is going to take a while to finally balance out and will need LA btw. i'll get back to you kaizer on his gigantic meteor attack. we have put together some ideas for you but i have to get the final one down to present.
kaizer_soatze

10-08-06, 03:29 PM
for the giantic meteor attack should it be d8 or d6?
Golem011

10-08-06, 03:49 PM
Just...

Why all the anime classes?

This should be a template. Just ditch this idea and restart it, WITH SPELLCHECK and GRAMMAR, over on the monster boards.

:)
pita

10-08-06, 04:14 PM
Golem.
These people make anime classes because they want to play anime classes. Just like you like wizard and fighter, they want saiyan and broly.
Most people (myself included) can't find a spellcheck, and I speak fluent english.
Ditching an idea will not improve it. It'll just make it disappear.
Far_Traveler

10-08-06, 06:21 PM
You know what? This is ludicrous. I have an idea on how to resolve this dispute

Hit die: 1
Skill Points: 0
Saves: Yes
Mettle/evasion
AC Miss
DR ()x()/Story
Energy Resistance Yeah, that's not gonna do ****
BaB: Hit
Damage: Story
Special Attack: Power: Kill
kaizer_soatze

10-08-06, 11:06 PM
bump
kaizer_soatze

10-10-06, 07:41 PM
bump
kaizer_soatze

10-16-06, 11:07 AM
bump