can aClr w/ Magic Domain use Wands of lvl 9 Arcane MAgic!!!!! [Archive] - Wizards Community

can aClr w/ Magic Domain use Wands of lvl 9 Arcane MAgic!!!!! [Archive] - Wizards Community

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Vlorich San'cheh
10-26-03, 12:03 PM The way i understand it, you can cast any spell from a wand if the spell is on your class list even if you cant cast the spell yet. So i could cast HEAL as a Clr2. But how does this work w/ the Magic Domain? Does that domain add all the Wiz/sorc spells to my list, in the aspect that i can use wands of those spells?
Vlorich San'cheh
10-26-03, 12:04 PM .... additionally what is the check for using those wands? (i dont have the books)
Luminous Crayon
10-26-03, 12:21 PM There is no such thing as a wand of any level 9 spells. Wands can only contain spells of up to fourth level. Staves, however, do go higher.

Other than that, though, you are correct. There is no check to activate a wand or staff; it just atuomatically happens. Scrolls are more complicated, and involve a check to avoid mishaps if you aren't high enough in caster level to cast the spell normally. The magic domain gives you the ability to cast arcane spells as if you were a wizard of caster level = (your cleric level /2), so at level 20, you'd still have to make these checks on all scrolls of 6th level and higher. The exact mechanics are in the DMG; I'd explain them to you, but I don't have the book on me.
BlaineTog
10-26-03, 12:45 PM Wnads are pretty cool. Generally, you swing it and stuff happens. So, essentially, ANYONE can use a wand. Even the big bad fighter. But, they can get to be pretty expensive, and as it was noted, there is no such thing as a wand over 4th level.
Raven Dark
10-26-03, 01:18 PM Originally posted by BlaineTog
Wnads are pretty cool. Generally, you swing it and stuff happens. So, essentially, ANYONE can use a wand. Even the big bad fighter. But, they can get to be pretty expensive, and as it was noted, there is no such thing as a wand over 4th level.

That big bad fighter doesn't have a spell list. He can't use a wand unless he has a really high charisma and max ranks in Use Magic Device.
Luminous Crayon
10-26-03, 01:39 PM Originally posted by BlaineTog
Wnads are pretty cool. Generally, you swing it and stuff happens. So, essentially, ANYONE can use a wand. Even the big bad fighter. But, they can get to be pretty expensive, and as it was noted, there is no such thing as a wand over 4th level.

Perhaps you are thinking about rods, which work in much the same way you describe. Without a Use Magic Device check, only characters who are already spellcasters can use wands.
Vlorich San'cheh
10-27-03, 12:07 AM thanks for the clarification about that, I completely forgot about the lvl 4 max out on wands. That makes SO much more sense now.

Post/Author/DateTime	Post
Vlorich San'cheh 10-26-03, 12:03 PM	The way i understand it, you can cast any spell from a wand if the spell is on your class list even if you cant cast the spell yet. So i could cast HEAL as a Clr2. But how does this work w/ the Magic Domain? Does that domain add all the Wiz/sorc spells to my list, in the aspect that i can use wands of those spells?
Vlorich San'cheh 10-26-03, 12:04 PM	.... additionally what is the check for using those wands? (i dont have the books)
Luminous Crayon 10-26-03, 12:21 PM	There is no such thing as a wand of any level 9 spells. Wands can only contain spells of up to fourth level. Staves, however, do go higher. Other than that, though, you are correct. There is no check to activate a wand or staff; it just atuomatically happens. Scrolls are more complicated, and involve a check to avoid mishaps if you aren't high enough in caster level to cast the spell normally. The magic domain gives you the ability to cast arcane spells as if you were a wizard of caster level = (your cleric level /2), so at level 20, you'd still have to make these checks on all scrolls of 6th level and higher. The exact mechanics are in the DMG; I'd explain them to you, but I don't have the book on me.
BlaineTog 10-26-03, 12:45 PM	Wnads are pretty cool. Generally, you swing it and stuff happens. So, essentially, ANYONE can use a wand. Even the big bad fighter. But, they can get to be pretty expensive, and as it was noted, there is no such thing as a wand over 4th level.
Raven Dark 10-26-03, 01:18 PM	Originally posted by BlaineTog Wnads are pretty cool. Generally, you swing it and stuff happens. So, essentially, ANYONE can use a wand. Even the big bad fighter. But, they can get to be pretty expensive, and as it was noted, there is no such thing as a wand over 4th level. That big bad fighter doesn't have a spell list. He can't use a wand unless he has a really high charisma and max ranks in Use Magic Device.
Luminous Crayon 10-26-03, 01:39 PM	Originally posted by BlaineTog Wnads are pretty cool. Generally, you swing it and stuff happens. So, essentially, ANYONE can use a wand. Even the big bad fighter. But, they can get to be pretty expensive, and as it was noted, there is no such thing as a wand over 4th level. Perhaps you are thinking about rods, which work in much the same way you describe. Without a Use Magic Device check, only characters who are already spellcasters can use wands.
Vlorich San'cheh 10-27-03, 12:07 AM	thanks for the clarification about that, I completely forgot about the lvl 4 max out on wands. That makes SO much more sense now.