Post/Author/DateTime	Post
prozacman 05-08-06, 02:22 AM	the two feats in the ebberon book, master crafter, and legendary crafter (i forget the actual names, they reduce the gold and xp cost of crafting by 25% each, and stack) so if you took each 4 times, you could craft at -100% on each cost? this seems waaaay too good. am i missing something?
Lord Ian Stark 05-08-06, 02:26 AM	At work away from my books. Does it say it stacks with taking it multple times?
Grey_Mage 05-08-06, 03:22 AM	No, they erratted out the stacking cause peopel were being cheese cons. Jerks.
prozacman 05-09-06, 09:24 AM	it does say it stacks.. but i guess if theres errata that solves that. the way we ended up fixing it, was just saying that each time it reduced the cost seperately basically and item creation cost starts at 1000. you reduce it by 25%, now it costs 750 you reduce it by another 25%, now it costs 562 and 5 silver you reduce it another 25%, now it costs 421. so basically each time you reduce the cost of whatever the remaining cost is. so it'd take more than 8 feats to get it anywhere near free
eggplantm 05-09-06, 10:15 AM	I understand two seperate feats stacking with each other but is there anything that says you can take each feat more than once. I can see the two stacking together to net you a 50% reduction in cost but how could you get it down any lower than that?
Cifer 05-09-06, 10:31 AM	As has been said: The feats don't stack and are to be read as always going from the base price.
prozacman 05-09-06, 11:28 AM	i guess the errata makes this moot, but for the sake of communication: in the ebberon campaign setting, there is a feat to reduce gold, and a feat to reduce XP. each feat description specifically states that it stacks with itself. thus, RAW (pre-errata) states that if you take each of these feats 4 times each, you pay -100% gold cost, and -100% xp cost. by 12th lvl as an art. but apparently errata has been release which states this is no longer the case. Oh, and on a side note.. i'd like to see the link for that errata, if at all possible.
DarknessEternal 05-09-06, 11:31 AM	Oh, and on a side note.. i'd like to see the link for that errata, if at all possible. It's in the errata section of the main D&D website.
jagggar 05-09-06, 12:00 PM	each feat description specifically states that it stacks with itself. Wait, where? *flips through book* That's not the feat description. That's the feat summary table. If the feat descrption said it, it would say, "Special: This feat may be taken multiple times. Its effects stack." If the feat summary table overruled the feat descrption my half-dragon would've had damage reduction (Draco. Endure Blows. Table says Con 13, feat says Con 19).
Tempest Stormwind 05-09-06, 01:12 PM	In addition to the whole "Errata made them not stack" thing, I'd like to illustrate how it works. Let's say you have an item you'd like to craft that costs 10000 GP (market price). The cost to create this item is therefore 5000 GP (half market) and 400 XP (1/25 market). I always mix up the names of those three feats, so I'll be blunt: An artificer with the gold-reducing one pays only 3750 GP and 400XP to craft this (the reduction in gold you pay doesn't alter the market price, and thus doesn't alter the XP cost). If he has the XP reducing one, he'll pay 5000 GP and 300 XP. If he has both, he can make this thing for 3750 GP and 300 XP. And as always, if he has craft reserve remaining, he can pay the XP cost from that first. Hope that helps sort things out.
risner 05-09-06, 09:12 PM	the two feats in the ebberon book, master crafter, and legendary crafter (i forget the actual names, they reduce the gold and xp cost of crafting by 25% each, and stack) so if you took each 4 times, you could craft at -100% on each cost? this seems waaaay too good. am i missing something? Read the erratas before you post. They do not stack.
Jaid 05-10-06, 05:42 PM	Read the erratas before you post. They do not stack. read the rest of the posts before you post. he's been told like 5 times already, and has agreed with it.