Can someone suggest good starting stats for a guard/soldier? [Archive] - Wizards Community

Can someone suggest good starting stats for a guard/soldier? [Archive] - Wizards Community

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WaffleCop
03-21-08, 01:04 PM I'm using a warrior from the DMG as a guard/soldier. Can someone suggest some good starting ability scores?
Daehan
03-21-08, 02:01 PM Just off the top of my head, here are some good starting ability scores...

Str: 18
Dex: 18
Con: 18
Int: 18
Wis: 18
Cha: 18

Seriously though, you'll probably want to say what race you are and what point buy you will be using. :-P
WaffleCop
03-21-08, 02:08 PM Oh right sorry :D

Human guard/soldier for a hamlet
M-bark
03-21-08, 02:08 PM Better than what's suggested in the second post, have all the guards in whatever city you're in be Pun-Puns.

...or you could just go with the elite array and list as follows:

Str: 15
Dex: 13
Con: 14
Int: 11
Wis: 12
Cha: 8
1 ton ghost
03-21-08, 02:31 PM there's essentially an index in Heroes of Battle that stipulates a very lnog arrary of stats for humans, elves, goblinoid, drow, orc, undead armies. fairly simplified and very believeable. good book overall.
WaffleCop
03-21-08, 02:34 PM ^Sorry I don't buy the splatbooks :(
Staple
03-21-08, 02:34 PM I'd assume he's not too high level, since you're using Warrior and therefore shouldn't be too tough in combat. I'd go with:

STR 16
DEX 12
CON 16
INT 10
WIS 10
CHA 8

Then throw him in either chainmail or full plate.
WaffleCop
03-21-08, 04:39 PM Can anyone suggest something a little weaker than the elite array M-Bark posted? Because I intend to use two guards to help assist my two players in defending the hamlet they live in against bandits
JaronK
03-21-08, 06:59 PM Well, they're just Warriors after all.

The last time I used a pair of gaurds to help my party, They were like this:

Ox: Human Warrior 8 Str 15, Con 12, Dex 11 Wis 10, Chr 9, Int 8
Feats: Power Attack, Improved Shield Bash, Shieldmate, Phallanx Fighting
He wasn't too bright, but used a large heavy shield and shortsword to good effect. Wore Brigadine Mail.

Murph: Human Expert 8
Dex 15, Con 12, Str 11, Int 10, Wis 9, Chr 8
Feats: Point Blank Shot, Rapid Shot, Far Shot, Rapid Reload
Your basic Crossbowman with Light Crossbow, Brigadine Mail, and Shortsword. He was the one with Spot and Listen and such so he could actually spot things!

JaronK
WaffleCop
03-21-08, 07:52 PM Okay how does this look:
lvl 1 Human Warrior
Str-13
Dex-11
Con-12
Wis-10
Chr-9
Int-8
Weapon-Longsword
Armor-Chamail+Light wood shield

I'm using these stats for my four soldiers in my hamlet (the fifth guy, a captain is going to be stronger). Do you guys think these are good stats?

Edit:Can anyone suggest some feats as well?
ciaran
03-22-08, 12:57 AM I'd use the low-power 15 point buy. That would make a 17 str and 8 in everything else :D or spread it around and get something realistic.

These are town guards, not adventurers. They are doing their job and want to go home to their family at the end of the day. I'd say their feats would have more to do with defense and survival rather than killing.
runestar
03-22-08, 01:14 AM You might want to consider making them expert1/warrior1 for extra skills. I have always been irritated that fighters and warriors do not get spot and listen as class skills...:(

For feats, I would say that alertness and weapon focus are okay.
M-bark
03-22-08, 12:22 PM As long as Str and Con are prioritized, then Dex, then Wis and Int, and Cha totally dumped, you'd be good. Starting with a level in Expert, as suggested above, would be a nice thing to do, and then add a level of Warrior on top of it. You totally need Spot and Listen.
WaffleCop
03-22-08, 02:51 PM As long as Str and Con are prioritized, then Dex, then Wis and Int, and Cha totally dumped, you'd be good. Starting with a level in Expert, as suggested above, would be a nice thing to do, and then add a level of Warrior on top of it. You totally need Spot and Listen.

Can someone explain to me how multi-classing works? I have the rulebooks, but I don't understand how it works
WaffleCop
03-22-08, 05:49 PM Can someone explain to me how multi-classing works? I have the rulebooks, but I don't understand how it works

Anyone?
M-bark
03-22-08, 06:46 PM http://www.systemreferencedocuments.org/35/sovelior_sage/classes.html

Multiclass characters often take XP penalties, but for NPCs, you don't need to worry about that.

Post/Author/DateTime	Post
WaffleCop 03-21-08, 01:04 PM	I'm using a warrior from the DMG as a guard/soldier. Can someone suggest some good starting ability scores?
Daehan 03-21-08, 02:01 PM	Just off the top of my head, here are some good starting ability scores... Str: 18 Dex: 18 Con: 18 Int: 18 Wis: 18 Cha: 18 Seriously though, you'll probably want to say what race you are and what point buy you will be using. :-P
WaffleCop 03-21-08, 02:08 PM	Oh right sorry :D Human guard/soldier for a hamlet
M-bark 03-21-08, 02:08 PM	Better than what's suggested in the second post, have all the guards in whatever city you're in be Pun-Puns. ...or you could just go with the elite array and list as follows: Str: 15 Dex: 13 Con: 14 Int: 11 Wis: 12 Cha: 8
1 ton ghost 03-21-08, 02:31 PM	there's essentially an index in Heroes of Battle that stipulates a very lnog arrary of stats for humans, elves, goblinoid, drow, orc, undead armies. fairly simplified and very believeable. good book overall.
WaffleCop 03-21-08, 02:34 PM	^Sorry I don't buy the splatbooks :(
Staple 03-21-08, 02:34 PM	I'd assume he's not too high level, since you're using Warrior and therefore shouldn't be too tough in combat. I'd go with: STR 16 DEX 12 CON 16 INT 10 WIS 10 CHA 8 Then throw him in either chainmail or full plate.
WaffleCop 03-21-08, 04:39 PM	Can anyone suggest something a little weaker than the elite array M-Bark posted? Because I intend to use two guards to help assist my two players in defending the hamlet they live in against bandits
JaronK 03-21-08, 06:59 PM	Well, they're just Warriors after all. The last time I used a pair of gaurds to help my party, They were like this: Ox: Human Warrior 8 Str 15, Con 12, Dex 11 Wis 10, Chr 9, Int 8 Feats: Power Attack, Improved Shield Bash, Shieldmate, Phallanx Fighting He wasn't too bright, but used a large heavy shield and shortsword to good effect. Wore Brigadine Mail. Murph: Human Expert 8 Dex 15, Con 12, Str 11, Int 10, Wis 9, Chr 8 Feats: Point Blank Shot, Rapid Shot, Far Shot, Rapid Reload Your basic Crossbowman with Light Crossbow, Brigadine Mail, and Shortsword. He was the one with Spot and Listen and such so he could actually spot things! JaronK
WaffleCop 03-21-08, 07:52 PM	Okay how does this look: lvl 1 Human Warrior Str-13 Dex-11 Con-12 Wis-10 Chr-9 Int-8 Weapon-Longsword Armor-Chamail+Light wood shield I'm using these stats for my four soldiers in my hamlet (the fifth guy, a captain is going to be stronger). Do you guys think these are good stats? Edit:Can anyone suggest some feats as well?
ciaran 03-22-08, 12:57 AM	I'd use the low-power 15 point buy. That would make a 17 str and 8 in everything else :D or spread it around and get something realistic. These are town guards, not adventurers. They are doing their job and want to go home to their family at the end of the day. I'd say their feats would have more to do with defense and survival rather than killing.
runestar 03-22-08, 01:14 AM	You might want to consider making them expert1/warrior1 for extra skills. I have always been irritated that fighters and warriors do not get spot and listen as class skills...:( For feats, I would say that alertness and weapon focus are okay.
M-bark 03-22-08, 12:22 PM	As long as Str and Con are prioritized, then Dex, then Wis and Int, and Cha totally dumped, you'd be good. Starting with a level in Expert, as suggested above, would be a nice thing to do, and then add a level of Warrior on top of it. You totally need Spot and Listen.
WaffleCop 03-22-08, 02:51 PM	As long as Str and Con are prioritized, then Dex, then Wis and Int, and Cha totally dumped, you'd be good. Starting with a level in Expert, as suggested above, would be a nice thing to do, and then add a level of Warrior on top of it. You totally need Spot and Listen. Can someone explain to me how multi-classing works? I have the rulebooks, but I don't understand how it works
WaffleCop 03-22-08, 05:49 PM	Can someone explain to me how multi-classing works? I have the rulebooks, but I don't understand how it works Anyone?
M-bark 03-22-08, 06:46 PM	http://www.systemreferencedocuments.org/35/sovelior_sage/classes.html Multiclass characters often take XP penalties, but for NPCs, you don't need to worry about that.