Cant find Trapfinding... [Archive] - Wizards Community

Cant find Trapfinding... [Archive] - Wizards Community

Post/Author/DateTime Post
OzyBurrfoot
11-09-06, 11:14 AM Is there anyway to gain the trapfinding ability without taking levels in the following classes?

- Rogue
- Ninja
- Scout
- Spelltheif
- Beguiler

- Chameleon (its an option at least)
Cainin
11-09-06, 11:24 AM Yes, but I don't think it's worth the cost. From Magic of Incarnum, there is a soulmeld that grants Trapfinding when bound to your hand chakra. So Effectively you could take Shape Soulmeld <Theft Gloves> (CN 13 req) and Open Least Chakra <Hand> (CN 13, 6th lvl reqs).
OzyBurrfoot
11-09-06, 11:28 AM Ugh... that blows, a level in rogue would more worthwhile.

I was thinking something more like a feat, or a spell/power that does it.

And does the Open Least Chakra acctually grant you the ability to bind the soulmeld? Or just opens that as an option, if you can bind already?
GalaGalaxia
11-09-06, 11:29 AM Leadership

Get a Rogue cohort
chiefcastor
11-09-06, 11:32 AM Artificers get it I think... if you are playing in Eberron.
OzyBurrfoot
11-09-06, 11:37 AM Oh, yeah. But sadly we arent. My DM would probably allow it, but we arent using Action Points, and my infusions would suffer for that. The Rapid Infusion feat helps, but thats once per day, not nearly enough on its own.

Leadership

Get a Rogue cohort
We use a House Rule that changes Leadership so you can only gain a NPC class cohort.
Cainin
11-09-06, 12:11 PM And does the Open Least Chakra acctually grant you the ability to bind the soulmeld? Or just opens that as an option, if you can bind already?

Yes, Least Ckakra lets you the chakra binding ability. The Chackra Bind feat tree is designed for the use of non-Incarnum characters.
Kullak-Kobold Sorcerer
11-09-06, 12:12 PM 2nd level cleric spell: Find Traps
GalaGalaxia
11-09-06, 12:20 PM 2nd level cleric spell: Find Traps

Man, aren't you gonna waste those precious spells.
Lord Ariakon
11-09-06, 01:03 PM You need to look no further than this very website. The Races of the Dragon Web Enhancement #2 Kobolds: Playing to Their Strengths (http://www.wizards.com/default.asp?x=dnd/we/20060420a) has the Kobold Domain that gives a Cleric the Trapfiniding ability, it also adds Search and Disable Device to the list of Cleric's class skills.
OzyBurrfoot
11-09-06, 01:43 PM Grr.. we already have a cleric. But that'll be good for future games.
LordPendragon
11-09-06, 02:05 PM Szatany's suggestion only uses 2 feats... it's not much worse than the single feat you had originally wanted.

Or my favourite way of getting Trapfinding - Take 4 levels of the UA variant Rogue with Fighter bonus feats. It's like getting all the bonuses of 4 Fighter levels, except with Trapfinding, Evasion, and Uncanny Dodge thrown in.
OzyBurrfoot
11-09-06, 02:09 PM Thats true, I dont know why but it looked like 3-4 feats, not two.
Nephlite
11-09-06, 02:21 PM Is there anyway to gain the trapfinding ability without taking levels in the following classes?

- Rogue
- Ninja
- Scout
- Spelltheif
- Beguiler

- Chameleon (its an option at least)
Psychic Rigue in Mind's Eye a Web article by WOTC. Basically, it is like a riogue but loses a little sa damage in exchange gains pp and powers.
OzyBurrfoot
11-09-06, 02:24 PM Yeah, that class always struck me as the precursor to the Lurk, which is a much better class. It'd be better if it had trapfinding, but the Psionic Rogue just seems too forced for my tastes.

Hmm... I wonder if I could do the same thing with Scout....

Post/Author/DateTime	Post
OzyBurrfoot 11-09-06, 11:14 AM	Is there anyway to gain the trapfinding ability without taking levels in the following classes? - Rogue - Ninja - Scout - Spelltheif - Beguiler - Chameleon (its an option at least)
Cainin 11-09-06, 11:24 AM	Yes, but I don't think it's worth the cost. From Magic of Incarnum, there is a soulmeld that grants Trapfinding when bound to your hand chakra. So Effectively you could take Shape Soulmeld <Theft Gloves> (CN 13 req) and Open Least Chakra <Hand> (CN 13, 6th lvl reqs).
OzyBurrfoot 11-09-06, 11:28 AM	Ugh... that blows, a level in rogue would more worthwhile. I was thinking something more like a feat, or a spell/power that does it. And does the Open Least Chakra acctually grant you the ability to bind the soulmeld? Or just opens that as an option, if you can bind already?
GalaGalaxia 11-09-06, 11:29 AM	Leadership Get a Rogue cohort
chiefcastor 11-09-06, 11:32 AM	Artificers get it I think... if you are playing in Eberron.
OzyBurrfoot 11-09-06, 11:37 AM	Oh, yeah. But sadly we arent. My DM would probably allow it, but we arent using Action Points, and my infusions would suffer for that. The Rapid Infusion feat helps, but thats once per day, not nearly enough on its own. Leadership Get a Rogue cohort We use a House Rule that changes Leadership so you can only gain a NPC class cohort.
Cainin 11-09-06, 12:11 PM	And does the Open Least Chakra acctually grant you the ability to bind the soulmeld? Or just opens that as an option, if you can bind already? Yes, Least Ckakra lets you the chakra binding ability. The Chackra Bind feat tree is designed for the use of non-Incarnum characters.
Kullak-Kobold Sorcerer 11-09-06, 12:12 PM	2nd level cleric spell: Find Traps
GalaGalaxia 11-09-06, 12:20 PM	2nd level cleric spell: Find Traps Man, aren't you gonna waste those precious spells.
Lord Ariakon 11-09-06, 01:03 PM	You need to look no further than this very website. The Races of the Dragon Web Enhancement #2 Kobolds: Playing to Their Strengths (http://www.wizards.com/default.asp?x=dnd/we/20060420a) has the Kobold Domain that gives a Cleric the Trapfiniding ability, it also adds Search and Disable Device to the list of Cleric's class skills.
OzyBurrfoot 11-09-06, 01:43 PM	Grr.. we already have a cleric. But that'll be good for future games.
LordPendragon 11-09-06, 02:05 PM	Szatany's suggestion only uses 2 feats... it's not much worse than the single feat you had originally wanted. Or my favourite way of getting Trapfinding - Take 4 levels of the UA variant Rogue with Fighter bonus feats. It's like getting all the bonuses of 4 Fighter levels, except with Trapfinding, Evasion, and Uncanny Dodge thrown in.
OzyBurrfoot 11-09-06, 02:09 PM	Thats true, I dont know why but it looked like 3-4 feats, not two.
Nephlite 11-09-06, 02:21 PM	Is there anyway to gain the trapfinding ability without taking levels in the following classes? - Rogue - Ninja - Scout - Spelltheif - Beguiler - Chameleon (its an option at least) Psychic Rigue in Mind's Eye a Web article by WOTC. Basically, it is like a riogue but loses a little sa damage in exchange gains pp and powers.
OzyBurrfoot 11-09-06, 02:24 PM	Yeah, that class always struck me as the precursor to the Lurk, which is a much better class. It'd be better if it had trapfinding, but the Psionic Rogue just seems too forced for my tastes. Hmm... I wonder if I could do the same thing with Scout....