Changling with natural weapons and Warshaper abilities [Archive] - Wizards Community

Changling with natural weapons and Warshaper abilities [Archive] - Wizards Community

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alzoron
06-30-06, 02:00 AM I'm trying to roll up a replacement character in anticipation of my current character dying soon (getting the jump on an evil GM).

Anyways, could a changling conceivably be able to grow fangs and claws using it's shapeshifting abilities and have them be considered natural weapons and deal damage as such? Furthermore could these claws and fangs qualify for the Warshaper's Morphic Weapons ability to grow natural weapons a size catagory larger?

If all of this is possible what kind of damage would these claws and fangs do? I was just going to use 1d4 for the claws and 1d6 for the fangs. After looking at various medium sized creatures that have fang and claw attacks this seems to be the standard amount before adding str bonuses and such.
Shaggy_Shaggs
06-30-06, 02:14 AM Anyways, could a changling conceivably be able to grow fangs and claws using it's shapeshifting abilities and have them be considered natural weapons and deal damage as such?
No. The changeling's Minor Change Shape ability is based on disguise self (http://www.d20srd.org/srd/spells/disguiseSelf.htm), which doesn't allow for growing usable natural weapons - where differences between the spell and the racial ability exist, they're mentioned, and growing usable natural weapons isn't one of them. This renders the other questions irrelevant, as the changeling doesn't have the natural weapons in the first place.
Lord of Dorkness
06-30-06, 07:15 AM You meant shifter, maybe? I know I keep confusing them. Shifter gets Natural Weapons.
alzoron
06-30-06, 11:58 PM I did actually mean changling as I didn't like the restriction on extra attacks with the claw weapons, but after looking at things a second time I could make a shifter or changling work with the idea I had.

Post/Author/DateTime	Post
alzoron 06-30-06, 02:00 AM	I'm trying to roll up a replacement character in anticipation of my current character dying soon (getting the jump on an evil GM). Anyways, could a changling conceivably be able to grow fangs and claws using it's shapeshifting abilities and have them be considered natural weapons and deal damage as such? Furthermore could these claws and fangs qualify for the Warshaper's Morphic Weapons ability to grow natural weapons a size catagory larger? If all of this is possible what kind of damage would these claws and fangs do? I was just going to use 1d4 for the claws and 1d6 for the fangs. After looking at various medium sized creatures that have fang and claw attacks this seems to be the standard amount before adding str bonuses and such.
Shaggy_Shaggs 06-30-06, 02:14 AM	Anyways, could a changling conceivably be able to grow fangs and claws using it's shapeshifting abilities and have them be considered natural weapons and deal damage as such? No. The changeling's Minor Change Shape ability is based on disguise self (http://www.d20srd.org/srd/spells/disguiseSelf.htm), which doesn't allow for growing usable natural weapons - where differences between the spell and the racial ability exist, they're mentioned, and growing usable natural weapons isn't one of them. This renders the other questions irrelevant, as the changeling doesn't have the natural weapons in the first place.
Lord of Dorkness 06-30-06, 07:15 AM	You meant shifter, maybe? I know I keep confusing them. Shifter gets Natural Weapons.
alzoron 06-30-06, 11:58 PM	I did actually mean changling as I didn't like the restriction on extra attacks with the claw weapons, but after looking at things a second time I could make a shifter or changling work with the idea I had.