charisma powerhouse [Archive] - Wizards Community

charisma powerhouse [Archive] - Wizards Community

Post/Author/DateTime Post
crimsonwolf
03-30-07, 10:59 PM is there a way to go strong with charisma without any sorrcer levels and not a paldien 20 build
The_Shaman
03-30-07, 11:02 PM Bard, shugenja, favored soul, wilder, a ton of PrCs... what exactly do you want to do?
RorixBladewing
03-30-07, 11:12 PM Binders make good use of a high Charisma.
benihana
03-30-07, 11:17 PM Dread Necromancers love Charisma too.
crimsonwolf
03-31-07, 01:15 AM kinda a hellbred intemdating strike melee monster
Lotus Crane
03-31-07, 02:18 AM Try a hexblade (Complete Warrior, though the author's desired changes are here (http://boards1.wizards.com/showpost.php?p=11088256&postcount=16)) with a sudden stunning weapon (DMG II)?
navar100
03-31-07, 02:42 AM Warlocks like Charisma too.
crimsonwolf
03-31-07, 03:01 AM mmm.. hexblade unfourtly deosnt intrested me bcuse its not relly much more thena dip (the fix you showed is not offical therefore unusualbe in are campaing) and warlocks would be intresting but nto waht this build is wanting
Lotus Crane
03-31-07, 03:10 AM mmm.. hexblade unfourtly deosnt intrested me bcuse its not relly much more thena dip (the fix you showed is not offical therefore unusualbe in are campaing)
Unfortunately, WotC has a very strong policy of not issuing major fixes to published material, no matter how appropriate they are. That being said, those proposed fixes by WotC Mark are as close to official as possible, because the author who wrote the hexblade in the first place is suggesting them. Author>company, as far as I'm concerned.

Even so, hexblade 5 going into Blackguard and/or Dragon Disciple is a surprisingly decent build, with or even without class fixes. If you want a non-paladin, non-primary caster that makes the most of Cha, that's the way to go.
crimsonwolf
03-31-07, 11:15 AM dm still sayed no ... so am just going to go with paliden/grey gaurd combo
Chimaera2000
03-31-07, 04:45 PM You might want to splash some marshal (http://www.wizards.com/default.asp?x=dnd/ex/20030906b) in there. Alternatively, if you have access to Tome of Battle, you could play a crusader or use Tempest Stormwind's excellent Sublime Way Marshal variant. (http://boards1.wizards.com/showthread.php?t=752414) I think that the last one would really let you get the most out of your character concept.
The_Shaman
03-31-07, 05:00 PM dm still sayed no ... so am just going to go with paliden/grey gaurd combo

Bleh, the GG is imo one of the worst ideas since the Celebrant of Sharess imo (actually, it was an okay idea, but with a terrible execution). Can't you just play a crusader, paladin/divine champion, Sacred templar, or some such?
crimsonwolf
03-31-07, 06:09 PM i could ya but thats just the geneaal flavor am talking about

hexblade 4 dark compain varient marshal sublime 2 sounds intresting

Post/Author/DateTime	Post
crimsonwolf 03-30-07, 10:59 PM	is there a way to go strong with charisma without any sorrcer levels and not a paldien 20 build
The_Shaman 03-30-07, 11:02 PM	Bard, shugenja, favored soul, wilder, a ton of PrCs... what exactly do you want to do?
RorixBladewing 03-30-07, 11:12 PM	Binders make good use of a high Charisma.
benihana 03-30-07, 11:17 PM	Dread Necromancers love Charisma too.
crimsonwolf 03-31-07, 01:15 AM	kinda a hellbred intemdating strike melee monster
Lotus Crane 03-31-07, 02:18 AM	Try a hexblade (Complete Warrior, though the author's desired changes are here (http://boards1.wizards.com/showpost.php?p=11088256&postcount=16)) with a sudden stunning weapon (DMG II)?
navar100 03-31-07, 02:42 AM	Warlocks like Charisma too.
crimsonwolf 03-31-07, 03:01 AM	mmm.. hexblade unfourtly deosnt intrested me bcuse its not relly much more thena dip (the fix you showed is not offical therefore unusualbe in are campaing) and warlocks would be intresting but nto waht this build is wanting
Lotus Crane 03-31-07, 03:10 AM	mmm.. hexblade unfourtly deosnt intrested me bcuse its not relly much more thena dip (the fix you showed is not offical therefore unusualbe in are campaing) Unfortunately, WotC has a very strong policy of not issuing major fixes to published material, no matter how appropriate they are. That being said, those proposed fixes by WotC Mark are as close to official as possible, because the author who wrote the hexblade in the first place is suggesting them. Author>company, as far as I'm concerned. Even so, hexblade 5 going into Blackguard and/or Dragon Disciple is a surprisingly decent build, with or even without class fixes. If you want a non-paladin, non-primary caster that makes the most of Cha, that's the way to go.
crimsonwolf 03-31-07, 11:15 AM	dm still sayed no ... so am just going to go with paliden/grey gaurd combo
Chimaera2000 03-31-07, 04:45 PM	You might want to splash some marshal (http://www.wizards.com/default.asp?x=dnd/ex/20030906b) in there. Alternatively, if you have access to Tome of Battle, you could play a crusader or use Tempest Stormwind's excellent Sublime Way Marshal variant. (http://boards1.wizards.com/showthread.php?t=752414) I think that the last one would really let you get the most out of your character concept.
The_Shaman 03-31-07, 05:00 PM	dm still sayed no ... so am just going to go with paliden/grey gaurd combo Bleh, the GG is imo one of the worst ideas since the Celebrant of Sharess imo (actually, it was an okay idea, but with a terrible execution). Can't you just play a crusader, paladin/divine champion, Sacred templar, or some such?
crimsonwolf 03-31-07, 06:09 PM	i could ya but thats just the geneaal flavor am talking about hexblade 4 dark compain varient marshal sublime 2 sounds intresting