Class for an Evil Campaign [Archive] - Wizards Community

Class for an Evil Campaign [Archive] - Wizards Community

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Docfeegle
06-07-05, 03:41 PM Starting level is 10, no ecl's allowed. So far I have two ideas :

1. Human Samurai 6/Kensai 4
Good weapon options, also good intimidate abilities like staredown. Good for dominating others through force of arms. Very good for combat situations.
OR
2. Changeling Warlock 6/ Cabinet Trickster 4
Good spying ability, useful invocations for various nefarious purposes. Next level of Cabinet trickster allows constant dectect thoughts. Probably follow up with a level or two of assassin and/or continue with Warlock.

Anyone have any suggestions or their own ideas for a character in an evil campaign?
Eraleas
06-07-05, 03:49 PM I like the 2nd build better. Changelings are fun playing and Warlock is a good class.

I wouldn't go with the Samurai -at least with the one presented in CW- due to limitations based on the weapons he uses.

Lemme a k ya... Where is Cabinet Trickster from?

~A.J.
Kadasbrass
06-07-05, 04:05 PM The Cabinet Trickster is from Races of Eberron
Particle_Man
06-07-05, 04:12 PM Scout 5/Assassin 5?
Docfeegle
06-07-05, 04:24 PM What would be the benefit of the scout/assassin combination over the classic rogue/assassin or over warlock/assassin?
ninjarabbit
06-07-05, 04:45 PM warforged fighter1/wizard6/spellsword3: basically be Dr. Doom

human monk2/hexblade3/fighter2/blackguard3
P33KAJ3W
06-07-05, 04:56 PM Pal 5 Blackguard 5
Cleric 3 / Wizard 3 / True Necromancer 4
Ninja 5 / Ghostfaced Killer 5
Manyfist
06-07-05, 05:13 PM That's rough that you can't have at least LA:+1.

If you can convince your DM to let you have at least LA:+1, my Dhampir race is in need of playtesting. :D

Dhampir(LA+1), Hexblade(Psychic Warrior) 3/ Ranger 3/ SwashBuckler(Warlock) 3 ;)

Humans, Changlings, Warforged... they all work well.

Elan, Psychic Warrior 6/Ranger 2/Slayer 2 :P
HappyDragon
06-07-05, 05:18 PM What would be the benefit of the scout/assassin combination over the classic rogue/assassin or over warlock/assassin?
Depends on the type of campaign being run. If you are going to be in the city all the time the classics are the best way to go, but if there will be things outside of the normal realms of civilization the Scout's abilities become invaluable.

For the record I also prefer your second build choice with the Changeling warlock/cabinet trickster.....that could be a very fun one to play out.

Finally, I've always liked the flavour of the Hexblade alot for an evil campaign but I don't know what may make a good build.....Maybe Hexblade going into Occult Slayer would be interesting.

Just my :twocents:
Jaid
06-07-05, 05:53 PM personally, i recommend psion(telepath), with probably some thrallherd thrown in, but that's just me ;)

it all depends on what you want to play.
Particle_Man
06-07-05, 07:37 PM What would be the benefit of the scout/assassin combination over the classic rogue/assassin or over warlock/assassin?

So you can run away more easily if the whole death attack thing doesn't pan out. :)
WarDragon
06-07-05, 07:41 PM I'll just say this; a Bard or Enchanter with no moral restrictions is a scary, scary thing.
theOne333
06-07-05, 07:47 PM A truly, horrifically/creepily evil character would really need a base class of its own. But, since I haven't gotten around to that yet...

Races: Changeling, Drow, Human, Kenku, Lich, Tiefling
Classes: Hexblade, Rogue, Sorcerer, Warlock
PrCs: Acolyte of the Skin, Alienist, Assassin, Blackguard, Cabinet Trickster, Diabolist (and other PrCs from BoVD whose names slip my mind at the moment), Fiend of [Corruption/Possession/etc.], Fleshmolder, Monster Cultist (I think that's the name; it was in an article of Dragon), Pale Master, True Necromancer

I'll post a couple full builds later.
thasis
06-07-05, 09:51 PM Half-Elf 6 Psion/4 Mindthrall

Mindthralls are probally the most evil classes I know (well atleast to a DM :D ). They have what you call forced leadership. People come to him and are forced to serve him. Totally insane fun.

Why I chose Half-Elf? Well there jus cool. :P
Mordin
06-07-05, 10:03 PM True Necro

Mindbender

I personaly like the Scout/Assassin
Jaid
06-07-05, 11:06 PM Half-Elf 6 Psion/4 Mindthrall

Mindthralls are probally the most evil classes I know (well atleast to a DM :D ). They have what you call forced leadership. People come to him and are forced to serve him. Totally insane fun. [snip]

thrallherd. it's thrallherd you are thinking of i think. it may, however, have been mindthrall in 3.0, not sure of that... not even sure if it was there in 3.0 actually. didn't like 3.0 psionics enough to ever bother looking =P
Nephlite
06-08-05, 01:57 AM http://www.giantitp.com/Func0007.html

The Champion can be evil or good, if evil Dark Champions. "While rare, it is possible for villains to take on the role of vessel to an evil avatar. Simply change all references to Good to Evil, or Evil to Good"

It might be a fun class to try out.
Particle_Man
06-08-05, 02:43 AM Not the most powerful choice, but in honour of Revenge of the Sith:

Ex-Paladin 9/Blackguard 1
Rulebook
06-08-05, 03:31 AM Rogue3/hexblade3/Assassin1/Shadowlord3 (from Unnaprochable East)

i dunno... I like it, and you get Mette + Evasion.
Northwest
06-08-05, 12:16 PM Hexblade 8/Warlock 2. Not so powerful, but cool.

Post/Author/DateTime	Post
Docfeegle 06-07-05, 03:41 PM	Starting level is 10, no ecl's allowed. So far I have two ideas : 1. Human Samurai 6/Kensai 4 Good weapon options, also good intimidate abilities like staredown. Good for dominating others through force of arms. Very good for combat situations. OR 2. Changeling Warlock 6/ Cabinet Trickster 4 Good spying ability, useful invocations for various nefarious purposes. Next level of Cabinet trickster allows constant dectect thoughts. Probably follow up with a level or two of assassin and/or continue with Warlock. Anyone have any suggestions or their own ideas for a character in an evil campaign?
Eraleas 06-07-05, 03:49 PM	I like the 2nd build better. Changelings are fun playing and Warlock is a good class. I wouldn't go with the Samurai -at least with the one presented in CW- due to limitations based on the weapons he uses. Lemme a k ya... Where is Cabinet Trickster from? ~A.J.
Kadasbrass 06-07-05, 04:05 PM	The Cabinet Trickster is from Races of Eberron
Particle_Man 06-07-05, 04:12 PM	Scout 5/Assassin 5?
Docfeegle 06-07-05, 04:24 PM	What would be the benefit of the scout/assassin combination over the classic rogue/assassin or over warlock/assassin?
ninjarabbit 06-07-05, 04:45 PM	warforged fighter1/wizard6/spellsword3: basically be Dr. Doom human monk2/hexblade3/fighter2/blackguard3
P33KAJ3W 06-07-05, 04:56 PM	Pal 5 Blackguard 5 Cleric 3 / Wizard 3 / True Necromancer 4 Ninja 5 / Ghostfaced Killer 5
Manyfist 06-07-05, 05:13 PM	That's rough that you can't have at least LA:+1. If you can convince your DM to let you have at least LA:+1, my Dhampir race is in need of playtesting. :D Dhampir(LA+1), Hexblade(Psychic Warrior) 3/ Ranger 3/ SwashBuckler(Warlock) 3 ;) Humans, Changlings, Warforged... they all work well. Elan, Psychic Warrior 6/Ranger 2/Slayer 2 :P
HappyDragon 06-07-05, 05:18 PM	What would be the benefit of the scout/assassin combination over the classic rogue/assassin or over warlock/assassin? Depends on the type of campaign being run. If you are going to be in the city all the time the classics are the best way to go, but if there will be things outside of the normal realms of civilization the Scout's abilities become invaluable. For the record I also prefer your second build choice with the Changeling warlock/cabinet trickster.....that could be a very fun one to play out. Finally, I've always liked the flavour of the Hexblade alot for an evil campaign but I don't know what may make a good build.....Maybe Hexblade going into Occult Slayer would be interesting. Just my :twocents:
Jaid 06-07-05, 05:53 PM	personally, i recommend psion(telepath), with probably some thrallherd thrown in, but that's just me ;) it all depends on what you want to play.
Particle_Man 06-07-05, 07:37 PM	What would be the benefit of the scout/assassin combination over the classic rogue/assassin or over warlock/assassin? So you can run away more easily if the whole death attack thing doesn't pan out. :)
WarDragon 06-07-05, 07:41 PM	I'll just say this; a Bard or Enchanter with no moral restrictions is a scary, scary thing.
theOne333 06-07-05, 07:47 PM	A truly, horrifically/creepily evil character would really need a base class of its own. But, since I haven't gotten around to that yet... Races: Changeling, Drow, Human, Kenku, Lich, Tiefling Classes: Hexblade, Rogue, Sorcerer, Warlock PrCs: Acolyte of the Skin, Alienist, Assassin, Blackguard, Cabinet Trickster, Diabolist (and other PrCs from BoVD whose names slip my mind at the moment), Fiend of [Corruption/Possession/etc.], Fleshmolder, Monster Cultist (I think that's the name; it was in an article of Dragon), Pale Master, True Necromancer I'll post a couple full builds later.
thasis 06-07-05, 09:51 PM	Half-Elf 6 Psion/4 Mindthrall Mindthralls are probally the most evil classes I know (well atleast to a DM :D ). They have what you call forced leadership. People come to him and are forced to serve him. Totally insane fun. Why I chose Half-Elf? Well there jus cool. :P
Mordin 06-07-05, 10:03 PM	True Necro Mindbender I personaly like the Scout/Assassin
Jaid 06-07-05, 11:06 PM	Half-Elf 6 Psion/4 Mindthrall Mindthralls are probally the most evil classes I know (well atleast to a DM :D ). They have what you call forced leadership. People come to him and are forced to serve him. Totally insane fun. [snip] thrallherd. it's thrallherd you are thinking of i think. it may, however, have been mindthrall in 3.0, not sure of that... not even sure if it was there in 3.0 actually. didn't like 3.0 psionics enough to ever bother looking =P
Nephlite 06-08-05, 01:57 AM	http://www.giantitp.com/Func0007.html The Champion can be evil or good, if evil Dark Champions. "While rare, it is possible for villains to take on the role of vessel to an evil avatar. Simply change all references to Good to Evil, or Evil to Good" It might be a fun class to try out.
Particle_Man 06-08-05, 02:43 AM	Not the most powerful choice, but in honour of Revenge of the Sith: Ex-Paladin 9/Blackguard 1
Rulebook 06-08-05, 03:31 AM	Rogue3/hexblade3/Assassin1/Shadowlord3 (from Unnaprochable East) i dunno... I like it, and you get Mette + Evasion.
Northwest 06-08-05, 12:16 PM	Hexblade 8/Warlock 2. Not so powerful, but cool.