Cleric Alignment/Diety Shift [Archive] - Wizards Community

Cleric Alignment/Diety Shift [Archive] - Wizards Community

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Lord Dracos
03-19-05, 04:34 PM If a Cleric switches to a diety of an opposed alignment, does he still have abilities from when he worshipped, lets say, a good diety? I would think in a roleplaying sense that there would be some complication, but I can't find anything in the rules.

Thanks.
quaiven
03-19-05, 04:42 PM Ex-Clerics
A cleric who grossly violates the code of conduct required by his god loses all spells and class features, except for armor and shield proficiencies and proficiency with simple weapons. He cannot thereafter gain levels as a cleric of that god until he atones (see the atonement spell description).

So the answer is plainly no. But your DM can probably allow you to gain the spells (and domains) of your new god, though I would make you be inducted into the church by a cleric of the new god through some kind of ceremony (and maybe a sizable donation of gold).
Salla
03-19-05, 08:42 PM I do it slightly differently

WE ARE NOW ENTERING HOUSE RULES TERRITORY. ENTER AT YOUR OWN RISK. PLEASE KEEP YOUR HANDS, FEET, AND KOBOLDS INSIDE THE THREAD AT ALL TIMES.

A cleric whose alignment drifts too far away from his diety's can, for lack of a better term, 'convert'. This requires an atonement spell (technically, you're not atoning, per se, you're showing your faith to the new diety, but it's the only spell that really counts), and a quest of some sort for the new church. Until the quest is complete, though, the cleric is spell-less (which the church takes into account when assigning the quest, naturally).

This, of course, assumes a cleric with a diety, of course. Clerics of philosophies are whole 'nother, more complicated, kettle of fish +2.

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Lord Dracos 03-19-05, 04:34 PM	If a Cleric switches to a diety of an opposed alignment, does he still have abilities from when he worshipped, lets say, a good diety? I would think in a roleplaying sense that there would be some complication, but I can't find anything in the rules. Thanks.
quaiven 03-19-05, 04:42 PM	Ex-Clerics A cleric who grossly violates the code of conduct required by his god loses all spells and class features, except for armor and shield proficiencies and proficiency with simple weapons. He cannot thereafter gain levels as a cleric of that god until he atones (see the atonement spell description). So the answer is plainly no. But your DM can probably allow you to gain the spells (and domains) of your new god, though I would make you be inducted into the church by a cleric of the new god through some kind of ceremony (and maybe a sizable donation of gold).
Salla 03-19-05, 08:42 PM	I do it slightly differently WE ARE NOW ENTERING HOUSE RULES TERRITORY. ENTER AT YOUR OWN RISK. PLEASE KEEP YOUR HANDS, FEET, AND KOBOLDS INSIDE THE THREAD AT ALL TIMES. A cleric whose alignment drifts too far away from his diety's can, for lack of a better term, 'convert'. This requires an atonement spell (technically, you're not atoning, per se, you're showing your faith to the new diety, but it's the only spell that really counts), and a quest of some sort for the new church. Until the quest is complete, though, the cleric is spell-less (which the church takes into account when assigning the quest, naturally). This, of course, assumes a cleric with a diety, of course. Clerics of philosophies are whole 'nother, more complicated, kettle of fish +2.