Post/Author/DateTime	Post
Cunning Gnome 02-13-05, 04:56 PM	Hi please give me your opinion on this class which ill call the war priest. HD. d10 Class skills. as cleric but with intimidate not diplomacy Skill points. 2+int Saves. good fort Proficiency. as cleric Spells. as cleric minus one spell per day of each level Domains. war only BAB. Good as fighter Feats. war priest get a fighter bonus feat at levels 5,10,15,20 Differences from cleric include less spells, no turn undead, no spontanious heal, one less domain. Do you think its balanced?
Scarlet Knight 02-13-05, 04:58 PM	Too similiar to a paladin.
Cunning Gnome 02-13-05, 05:05 PM	Too similiar to a paladin. I realise you couldnt have known this but in the campaign setting ill be running ill be using the prestige paladin from UA.
happycows 02-13-05, 05:18 PM	No feat at level 1 and it should be fair.
angryman 02-13-05, 09:11 PM	It's too good. FULL BAB and 1d10 HD is one of the best features of the fighting classes, giving it to a cleric with 80% casting is way too good- try HALF caster level.
dragoncc 02-14-05, 08:56 AM	Or just drop the domains entirely (they aren't really necessary for the concept IMO) & the bonus feat at first level will more than make up for them.
Cunning Gnome 02-14-05, 11:59 AM	How about 1 domain and a fighter bonus feat at 5th and 15th. And maybe inspire courage giving him and allies his cha bonus on saves vs fear?
Shadowfax7 02-14-05, 01:03 PM	No bonus feat at 1st level . . . considering the choice of domains is Battle (don't know this domain ??) and War; note that War grants 2 bonus feats effectively, Martial Weapon Proficiency in one weapon and Weapon Focus in that same weapon. I didn't see that you gave the "War Priest" proficiency in all Martial Weapons, so I presume he would still have just Simple Weapon Proficiency.
Cunning Gnome 02-15-05, 11:54 AM	I didnt give him martial proficiency as i though he would use the weapon of his deity which he gets focus in ;). Err and about battle domain i may have made that up :confused: mabe change for metal.
Shadowfax7 02-15-05, 09:22 PM	I didnt give him martial proficiency as i though he would use the weapon of his deity which he gets focus in ;). Err and about battle domain i may have made that up :confused: mabe change for metal. In that case no bonus feat at 1st level for sure. And rather than making it an option between 2 domains (and have to make one up), just give them all the War domain. Thus they all have Simple Weapon Proficiency, Martial Weapon Proficiency (if needed) and Weapon Focus in their deity's weapon.
Cunning Gnome 02-16-05, 03:39 PM	So no feat at first but one at levels 5,10,15,20 and war domain.
Jell_Moo 02-16-05, 04:12 PM	This is way too powerful. Full BAB, 9th level spells and a d10? Compare it to a Ranger... Compare it to a Paladin... Hell, compare it to a Fighter... This needs to be seriously toned down. A Full BAB, d8 for hit dice, and bard spells per day *might* be balanced. This, however, just offers way too much.
Shadowfax7 02-16-05, 08:47 PM	Cunning Gnome . . . you are still penalizing the War Priest by 1 spell cast/day, no spontaneous healing and no turning undead, correct ?? All that (and only 1 domain) for the addition of d10, Full BAB and fighter bonus feats at 5, 10, 15 & 20. I don't think this is overpowed. Also, note that Fighters and Clerics both have 2+Int skill points, so the War Priest neither gains or loses skill points.
Cunning Gnome 02-17-05, 11:59 AM	Ive altered first post.
Jell_Moo 02-17-05, 02:16 PM	How on earth is this anything but overpowered??? It's a Fighter with 6 fewer bonus feats, but has 2 good saves and 9th level spells. This is clearly better than any of the martial classes. By a lot! Kindly explain to me how this would be balanced.
Nephlite 02-17-05, 02:47 PM	Hi please give me your opinion on this class which ill call the war priest. HD. d10 Class skills. as cleric but with intimidate not diplomacy Skill points. 2+int Proficiency. as cleric Spells. as cleric minus one spell per day of each level Domains. war only BAB. Good as fighter Feats. war priest get a fighter bonus feat at levels 5,10,15,20 Differences from cleric include less spells, no turn undead, no spontanious heal, one less domain. Do you think its balanced? So this is what it gets: HD. d10 Class skills. as cleric but with intimidate not diplomacy Skill points. 2+int Spells. as cleric minus one spell per day of each level Domains. war only BAB. Good as fighter war priest get a fighter bonus feat at levels 5,10,15,20 Proficiency: Simple weapons, All armor, shield Compare to Fighter: HD. d10 Class skills. as fighter Skill points. 2+int Spells: none BAB. Good as fighter levels 1, 2, 4, 6, 8,10, 12, 14, 16, 18, 20 Proficiency: Simple and Martial weapons, All armor, shield (and tower Shield) Same HD, Same Skill points, same armor, same bab... Do War Preist have same saves? Would War Preist get all spell levels? Would you settle for Bard advancement (Use Cleric spell known -all, but Bard spell per day?) Yes, you'd not be good at spells like at level one, but you would be decent.