Cleric who can Turn Outsiders? [Archive] - Wizards Community

Cleric who can Turn Outsiders? [Archive] - Wizards Community

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Rechan
10-21-07, 10:48 PM I'm not sure where this would go, so I put it here.

Is there a domain or a feat or a variant class ability that lets a cleric turn/rebuke Evil Outsiders?
calronmoonflower
10-21-07, 10:53 PM There is an epic feat called Planar Turning That allows you to do this.

Also I believe the Planar Handbook has an alternate class feature that lets you spontaneously cast Banishment in exchange for spontaneously casting higher level curing spells.
Rechan
10-21-07, 10:59 PM Ah, so no real viable option for mid-level characters or something.
calronmoonflower
10-22-07, 12:01 AM Divine Justice lets you spend a turning attempt to do extra damage to evil outsider. You can find it free online here (http://www.wizards.com/default.asp?x=dnd/iw/20061214a) on the main site.

Avenging Strike from the Tome of Battle page 28 also gives you bonuses when attacking evil outsiders.
jradd777
10-22-07, 12:58 AM Knight of the Chalice PrC from Complete Warrior also gets bonuses to attack outsiders but I can't think of any kind of turning for outsiders

Edit: I think I found you a variant close enough...

Look to the right of the page for Turning Undead Variant: Planar Banishment (http://forums.gleemax.com/leaving.php?destination=http://www.d20srd.org/indexes/variantClasses.htm)
Redmantle
10-22-07, 09:10 AM There's a spell in Complete Champion- I don't have it in front of me, but I think it's called Turn Anathema that will allow the cleric to turn outsiders of opposed alignment for the spell's duration. I think it's a second level spell. That should suit what you're looking for- if you're willing to dish out $40 bucks.
Kapalen
10-22-07, 09:26 AM I believe an apostle of peace from BoED can turn evil outsiders, but you have to have vow of poverty and vow of peace to qualify, though it does get 9th level spells too.
InkBlot
10-22-07, 04:02 PM I believe Eberron also has many options for Clerics who can turn outsiders. Or at least, Clerics who can banish possessing outsiders. In Eberron all outsiders have the ability to possess mortals on the material plane, so these options are there incase the DM isn't using many undead (which only seem to show up in large numbers in the Mournland or in the Karnathi army), but commonly features people possessed by insidious plotting creatures from beyond the veil of reality.
Rechan
10-22-07, 04:06 PM I believe Eberron also has many options for Clerics who can turn outsiders. Or at least, Clerics who can banish possessing outsiders. In Eberron all outsiders have the ability to possess mortals on the material plane, so these options are there incase the DM isn't using many undead (which only seem to show up in large numbers in the Mournland or in the Karnathi army), but commonly features people possessed by insidious plotting creatures from beyond the veil of reality.
Yes; the Exorcism domain has a 'zap possessing critter currently inside someone' ability. I plan on taking that domain.

Thing is, I don't know if the adventure path I'm on has possessing monsters; all I know is that it has big bad outsiders near the end, and thus I'm looking for a way to turn them.
Jaxgaret
10-22-07, 04:22 PM I think jradd found your answer.
jradd777
10-22-07, 07:10 PM I think jradd found your answer.

Well, I found banishment, which isn't technically turning (but I figure it's close enough to what he wants functionally [I could be wrong; he might hate it, ha ha]), but now I'm kinda thinking of using the variant myself cuz it's pretty cool.
Rechan
10-22-07, 07:15 PM Actually, Redmantle has what I'm looking for.

Thanks, Redmantle. :)
Jaxgaret
10-22-07, 08:32 PM Deleted.
Rechan
10-22-07, 08:37 PM Wait, you don't want to destroy the Evil Outsiders, you just want to banish them?
Wha?

No. The spell "Turn Anathema" lets you Turn (but not destroy) outsiders. Aside from the Planar Turning in the Epic book, there's no option to destroy undead with Turning.

Sure, I'll resort to Banishment (it's an Exorcism domain spell). But turning to keep them at bay is also usefulish.
Jaxgaret
10-22-07, 08:42 PM Wha?

No. The spell "Turn Anathema" lets you Turn (but not destroy) outsiders. Aside from the Planar Turning in the Epic book, there's no option to destroy undead with Turning.

Sure, I'll resort to Banishment (it's an Exorcism domain spell). But turning to keep them at bay is also usefulish.

Yeah, never mind. I deleted my post.

Post/Author/DateTime	Post
Rechan 10-21-07, 10:48 PM	I'm not sure where this would go, so I put it here. Is there a domain or a feat or a variant class ability that lets a cleric turn/rebuke Evil Outsiders?
calronmoonflower 10-21-07, 10:53 PM	There is an epic feat called Planar Turning That allows you to do this. Also I believe the Planar Handbook has an alternate class feature that lets you spontaneously cast Banishment in exchange for spontaneously casting higher level curing spells.
Rechan 10-21-07, 10:59 PM	Ah, so no real viable option for mid-level characters or something.
calronmoonflower 10-22-07, 12:01 AM	Divine Justice lets you spend a turning attempt to do extra damage to evil outsider. You can find it free online here (http://www.wizards.com/default.asp?x=dnd/iw/20061214a) on the main site. Avenging Strike from the Tome of Battle page 28 also gives you bonuses when attacking evil outsiders.
jradd777 10-22-07, 12:58 AM	Knight of the Chalice PrC from Complete Warrior also gets bonuses to attack outsiders but I can't think of any kind of turning for outsiders Edit: I think I found you a variant close enough... Look to the right of the page for Turning Undead Variant: Planar Banishment (http://forums.gleemax.com/leaving.php?destination=http://www.d20srd.org/indexes/variantClasses.htm)
Redmantle 10-22-07, 09:10 AM	There's a spell in Complete Champion- I don't have it in front of me, but I think it's called Turn Anathema that will allow the cleric to turn outsiders of opposed alignment for the spell's duration. I think it's a second level spell. That should suit what you're looking for- if you're willing to dish out $40 bucks.
Kapalen 10-22-07, 09:26 AM	I believe an apostle of peace from BoED can turn evil outsiders, but you have to have vow of poverty and vow of peace to qualify, though it does get 9th level spells too.
InkBlot 10-22-07, 04:02 PM	I believe Eberron also has many options for Clerics who can turn outsiders. Or at least, Clerics who can banish possessing outsiders. In Eberron all outsiders have the ability to possess mortals on the material plane, so these options are there incase the DM isn't using many undead (which only seem to show up in large numbers in the Mournland or in the Karnathi army), but commonly features people possessed by insidious plotting creatures from beyond the veil of reality.
Rechan 10-22-07, 04:06 PM	I believe Eberron also has many options for Clerics who can turn outsiders. Or at least, Clerics who can banish possessing outsiders. In Eberron all outsiders have the ability to possess mortals on the material plane, so these options are there incase the DM isn't using many undead (which only seem to show up in large numbers in the Mournland or in the Karnathi army), but commonly features people possessed by insidious plotting creatures from beyond the veil of reality. Yes; the Exorcism domain has a 'zap possessing critter currently inside someone' ability. I plan on taking that domain. Thing is, I don't know if the adventure path I'm on has possessing monsters; all I know is that it has big bad outsiders near the end, and thus I'm looking for a way to turn them.
Jaxgaret 10-22-07, 04:22 PM	I think jradd found your answer.
jradd777 10-22-07, 07:10 PM	I think jradd found your answer. Well, I found banishment, which isn't technically turning (but I figure it's close enough to what he wants functionally [I could be wrong; he might hate it, ha ha]), but now I'm kinda thinking of using the variant myself cuz it's pretty cool.
Rechan 10-22-07, 07:15 PM	Actually, Redmantle has what I'm looking for. Thanks, Redmantle. :)
Jaxgaret 10-22-07, 08:32 PM	Deleted.
Rechan 10-22-07, 08:37 PM	Wait, you don't want to destroy the Evil Outsiders, you just want to banish them? Wha? No. The spell "Turn Anathema" lets you Turn (but not destroy) outsiders. Aside from the Planar Turning in the Epic book, there's no option to destroy undead with Turning. Sure, I'll resort to Banishment (it's an Exorcism domain spell). But turning to keep them at bay is also usefulish.
Jaxgaret 10-22-07, 08:42 PM	Wha? No. The spell "Turn Anathema" lets you Turn (but not destroy) outsiders. Aside from the Planar Turning in the Epic book, there's no option to destroy undead with Turning. Sure, I'll resort to Banishment (it's an Exorcism domain spell). But turning to keep them at bay is also usefulish. Yeah, never mind. I deleted my post.