10/3 interesting stats [Archive] - Wizards Community

10/3 interesting stats [Archive] - Wizards Community

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xeno_eleusis
03-10-04, 04:38 AM I don't know if anyone else out there likes numbers, but this stuff is really interesting to me. Here are some stats, just for the ECL2 fights for this upcomming week.

100% Male////| 80% New This week| 15 - Average AC| 14 Average HP
/50% Human///| 40% Multi-class//| 15 - Median AC/| 16 Median HP
/30% Elf/////| 40% Fighters/////| 14 - lowest AC/| 04 lowest HP
/10% Dwarf///| 30% Sor/Wiz//////| 18 - highest AC| 21 highest HP
/10% Outsider| 20% Monk
/////////////| 20% Barbarian
/////////////| 20% Rogue
/////////////| 10% Ranger

This is the sample data:
---------------
GE M A14 H10 WW 0 Zephin
HE M A18 H19 MS 0 Elshaya
WE M A14 H15 RF 0 Aemon
HH M A16 H18 RB 0 Nivek
HH M A17 H21 BF 1 Fargus
HH M A15 H19 FF 0 Laucian
HH M A14 H17 FF 2 Pard
HH M A15 H09 RR 0 Dominicus
DD M A15 H11 DM 0 Jo'Li
TF M A15 H04 TW 0 Jaydai
---------------
Key:
HH - Human
GE - Gray Elf
WE - Wood Elf
HE - Half Elf
DD - Duergar Dwarf
TF - Tiefling
M. - Male
F. - Female
A. - Armor class
H. - Hitpoints
DM - Duergar Monk
TW - Tiefling Wizard
Hatzinger
03-10-04, 04:45 AM i looooove statistics. :inlove:
xeno_eleusis
03-10-04, 05:26 AM @ Hatzinger, thanks for the love.

50% Human, I guess they want that extra feat at level 1.
Question: Will one extra feat help you win the match?

60% no multi-classing (well two of them took Level Adjustments and haven't had a chance to yet)
Question: Do people prefer the multi-class when optimizing characters?

15 Average AC, Seems like people are geared up to take a hit.

14 Average HP, I think this is the most interesting stat. Most people don't have the HPs to take more than a couple of hits from a powerful fighter or a skilled bowman.

Average hit for a Bastard sword 1d10 with STR+2 one handed is 7.5
Average hit for a Composite longbow 1d8 wit STR+3 is 7.5

With 14 HPs and two consecutive hits with average damage most people would be dead.
Hatzinger
03-10-04, 05:37 AM thats why a good bowman can win within the first round or first few rounds at low levels.
:ayyyy!: :king: :ayyyy!:

until he meets (at mid- to high levels) one of these...
:88E: :mage: :88E:
Bishop the Bardican
03-10-04, 10:36 AM WOW,
The statistics are great. It's the most interesting post I have seen in a while.
Have you thought about some class vs. class statistics? Do COCO fighters generally beat monks, etc?
Anyways, I agree with Hatz, more statistics, if you have the time.
xeno_eleusis
03-12-04, 05:27 AM I really think that having some running stats on this forum would be nice. So I read some of the ECL2 fights and collected data from only the first page on the fight thread (There are 15 pages with 30 posts a page)

This is just some quick data that I spreadsheeted. Stats for all the ECL2 gladiators from thier first fight. Stats will follow.

...................|a1 a2 r c1 .. c2 .. s. d. c. i. w. c. hp ac i f r w A s.. r.. r
Alathar Vierce.....| C G HH Brb 1 Ftr 1 17 14 16 13 10 08 23 16 2 6 2 0 N 955 045 W
Alton Thorngage....| N G HL Ftr 2 ..... 16 16 14 12 10 10 20 21 3 6 4 1 M 974 026 W
Ander Brogaden.....| N N HH Rng 1 Ftr 1 12 18 14 10 14 10 17 18 4 5 7 2 N 935 065 W
Aramil.............| L N HH Clr 2 ..... 16 14 14 10 16 10 17 17 6 4 2 6 N 987 013 W
Bilo Darkleaf......| C E HL Rog 1 Evk 1 08 18 14 18 10 08 13 15 4 3 7 3 N 951 049 W
Bonanza the Panza..| N N HD Brb 1 Clr 1 16 16 18 08 14 06 25 18 3 8 3 4 M 961 039 W
Cade Turen.........| N N HH Rog 1 Ftr 1 16 18 14 10 10 08 16 16 4 4 6 0 N 927 073 L
Calli'toa..........| N E HH Rog 1 Ftr 1 16 16 14 14 10 10 16 17 7 4 5 0 N 985 015 W
Corundum...........| N N HD Wiz 2 ..... 12 10 18 18 12 06 21 10 0 4 0 4 F 950 050 L
Derra Arnbourne....| N N HH Drd 2 ..... 10 14 16 10 18 08 19 15 2 6 2 7 C 965 035 L
Devon..............| C E HH Rng 1 Ftr 1 16 18 14 10 10 08 17 19 4 4 6 0 N 983 017 L
Gaynor.............| N N EE Clr 2 ..... 16 18 14 08 14 08 17 18 8 5 4 5 N 838 162 L
Glorfindel.........| N N EE Ftr 2 ..... 14 20 14 10 10 08 20 18 5 5 5 0 M 972 028 L
Jart...............| C N HH Brb 1 Ftr 1 18 14 15 08 10 08 22 16 6 5 2 0 N 965 035 W
Lothar the Orc.....| C N OO Brb 2 ..... 22 16 16 06 06 06 25 17 3 6 3 2 N 980 020 W
MacMillan Oneima...| L G HD Ftr 1 Mnk 1 16 13 18 13 14 06 23 13 1 8 3 4 N 515 485 W
Martrim Stormwind..| N N HH Ftr 2 ..... 16 16 16 10 12 08 10 19 3 6 3 1 N 981 019 L
Milo Darkleaf......| C N HL Rog 1 Evk 1 08 18 14 18 10 08 13 14 4 5 7 3 N 976 024 L
Pelle..............| N N HH Sor 2 ..... 10 10 18 08 08 18 15 10 0 6 0 2 N 955 045 W
Rito Maya..........| L N HH Mnk 2 ..... 16 16 14 08 16 08 17 16 7 5 6 6 N 488 512 L
Roscoe Goodkeg.....| C G HL Clr 2 ..... 10 18 16 10 16 08 19 19 4 7 5 7 N 770 230 L
Silaqui Holimion...| C G WE Ftr 2 ..... 18 18 12 13 10 08 18 18 4 4 4 0 N 825 175 L
Skymoon Moonbow....| L G EE Pal 2 ..... 16 10 14 10 12 16 20 16 0 8 3 4 M 979 021 W
Valuppa Zanzzabar..| N G HH Ftr 1 Div 1 12 16 16 16 10 08 22 13 7 5 3 3 F 739 261 W
xeno_eleusis
03-12-04, 06:02 AM Alignment stats:
00.0% LE
08.0% LG, LN, NG, CE
12.5% CG, CN
37.5% True Neutral

16.7% Lawful
33.3% Chaotic
50.0% Neutral

12.5% Evil
29.2% Good
58.3% Neutral

Race Stats:
04.2% Orc
12.5% Dwarf
16.7% Elf, Halfling
50.0% Human

04.2% Wood Elf
12.5% High Elf

Class Stats:
45.8% Multi-class

-Straight:
04.2% Barbarian, Druid, Monk, Paladin, Sorcerer, Wizard
12.5% Cleric
16.7% Fighter

-Multi:
04.2% Diviner, Druid, Paladin, Sorcerer, Wizard
08.3% Evoker, Ranger, Monk
16.7% Rogue, Barbarian, Cleric,
50.0% Fighter

12.5% Specialist Wizard
16.7% Wizard of some kind

Allies:
04.2% Animal Companions
08.3% Familiars
16.7% Mounts
70.8% No Ally

........|.STR..|.DEX..|.CON..|.INT..|.WI S..|.CHA..|.HP...|.AC...|.ini.|.For.|.Re f.|.Wil.|
Average.| 14.5 | 15.6 | 15.1 | 11.3 | 11.8 | 08.8 | 18.5 | 16.2 | 3.8 | 5.4 | 3.8 | 2.7 |
Median..| 16.0 | 16.0 | 14.0 | 10.0 | 10.0 | 08.0 | 18.5 | 16.5 | 4.0 | 5.0 | 3.5 | 2.5 |
Min.....| 08.0 | 10.0 | 12.0 | 06.0 | 06.0 | 06.0 | 10.0 | 10.0 | 0.0 | 3.0 | 0.0 | 0.0 |
Max.....| 22.0 | 20.0 | 18.0 | 18.0 | 18.0 | 18.0 | 25.0 | 21.0 | 8.0 | 8.0 | 7.0 | 7.0 |
Beldin
03-12-04, 06:06 AM interesting stats....only bilo, skymoon and rito survived...two more than the other
xeno_eleusis
03-12-04, 06:18 AM Originally posted by Bishop the Bardican
WOW,
The statistics are great. It's the most interesting post I have seen in a while.
Have you thought about some class vs. class statistics? Do COCO fighters generally beat monks, etc?
Anyways, I agree with Hatz, more statistics, if you have the time. We could definately show that as a running stat. I would just need some help. Maybe split up the work among a couple people. Compile the data from all the fights in a spreadsheet (only the data that we are interested in , not like the ones in this thread)

So what are we interested in?

Class, Alignment, and Race, all corelated towards wins/loses versus Class, Alignment, and Race?

Post/Author/DateTime	Post
xeno_eleusis 03-10-04, 04:38 AM	I don't know if anyone else out there likes numbers, but this stuff is really interesting to me. Here are some stats, just for the ECL2 fights for this upcomming week. 100% Male////\| 80% New This week\| 15 - Average AC\| 14 Average HP /50% Human///\| 40% Multi-class//\| 15 - Median AC/\| 16 Median HP /30% Elf/////\| 40% Fighters/////\| 14 - lowest AC/\| 04 lowest HP /10% Dwarf///\| 30% Sor/Wiz//////\| 18 - highest AC\| 21 highest HP /10% Outsider\| 20% Monk /////////////\| 20% Barbarian /////////////\| 20% Rogue /////////////\| 10% Ranger This is the sample data: --------------- GE M A14 H10 WW 0 Zephin HE M A18 H19 MS 0 Elshaya WE M A14 H15 RF 0 Aemon HH M A16 H18 RB 0 Nivek HH M A17 H21 BF 1 Fargus HH M A15 H19 FF 0 Laucian HH M A14 H17 FF 2 Pard HH M A15 H09 RR 0 Dominicus DD M A15 H11 DM 0 Jo'Li TF M A15 H04 TW 0 Jaydai --------------- Key: HH - Human GE - Gray Elf WE - Wood Elf HE - Half Elf DD - Duergar Dwarf TF - Tiefling M. - Male F. - Female A. - Armor class H. - Hitpoints DM - Duergar Monk TW - Tiefling Wizard
Hatzinger 03-10-04, 04:45 AM	i looooove statistics. :inlove:
xeno_eleusis 03-10-04, 05:26 AM	@ Hatzinger, thanks for the love. 50% Human, I guess they want that extra feat at level 1. Question: Will one extra feat help you win the match? 60% no multi-classing (well two of them took Level Adjustments and haven't had a chance to yet) Question: Do people prefer the multi-class when optimizing characters? 15 Average AC, Seems like people are geared up to take a hit. 14 Average HP, I think this is the most interesting stat. Most people don't have the HPs to take more than a couple of hits from a powerful fighter or a skilled bowman. Average hit for a Bastard sword 1d10 with STR+2 one handed is 7.5 Average hit for a Composite longbow 1d8 wit STR+3 is 7.5 With 14 HPs and two consecutive hits with average damage most people would be dead.
Hatzinger 03-10-04, 05:37 AM	thats why a good bowman can win within the first round or first few rounds at low levels. :ayyyy!: :king: :ayyyy!: until he meets (at mid- to high levels) one of these... :88E: :mage: :88E:
Bishop the Bardican 03-10-04, 10:36 AM	WOW, The statistics are great. It's the most interesting post I have seen in a while. Have you thought about some class vs. class statistics? Do COCO fighters generally beat monks, etc? Anyways, I agree with Hatz, more statistics, if you have the time.
xeno_eleusis 03-12-04, 05:27 AM	I really think that having some running stats on this forum would be nice. So I read some of the ECL2 fights and collected data from only the first page on the fight thread (There are 15 pages with 30 posts a page) This is just some quick data that I spreadsheeted. Stats for all the ECL2 gladiators from thier first fight. Stats will follow. ...................\|a1 a2 r c1 .. c2 .. s. d. c. i. w. c. hp ac i f r w A s.. r.. r Alathar Vierce.....\| C G HH Brb 1 Ftr 1 17 14 16 13 10 08 23 16 2 6 2 0 N 955 045 W Alton Thorngage....\| N G HL Ftr 2 ..... 16 16 14 12 10 10 20 21 3 6 4 1 M 974 026 W Ander Brogaden.....\| N N HH Rng 1 Ftr 1 12 18 14 10 14 10 17 18 4 5 7 2 N 935 065 W Aramil.............\| L N HH Clr 2 ..... 16 14 14 10 16 10 17 17 6 4 2 6 N 987 013 W Bilo Darkleaf......\| C E HL Rog 1 Evk 1 08 18 14 18 10 08 13 15 4 3 7 3 N 951 049 W Bonanza the Panza..\| N N HD Brb 1 Clr 1 16 16 18 08 14 06 25 18 3 8 3 4 M 961 039 W Cade Turen.........\| N N HH Rog 1 Ftr 1 16 18 14 10 10 08 16 16 4 4 6 0 N 927 073 L Calli'toa..........\| N E HH Rog 1 Ftr 1 16 16 14 14 10 10 16 17 7 4 5 0 N 985 015 W Corundum...........\| N N HD Wiz 2 ..... 12 10 18 18 12 06 21 10 0 4 0 4 F 950 050 L Derra Arnbourne....\| N N HH Drd 2 ..... 10 14 16 10 18 08 19 15 2 6 2 7 C 965 035 L Devon..............\| C E HH Rng 1 Ftr 1 16 18 14 10 10 08 17 19 4 4 6 0 N 983 017 L Gaynor.............\| N N EE Clr 2 ..... 16 18 14 08 14 08 17 18 8 5 4 5 N 838 162 L Glorfindel.........\| N N EE Ftr 2 ..... 14 20 14 10 10 08 20 18 5 5 5 0 M 972 028 L Jart...............\| C N HH Brb 1 Ftr 1 18 14 15 08 10 08 22 16 6 5 2 0 N 965 035 W Lothar the Orc.....\| C N OO Brb 2 ..... 22 16 16 06 06 06 25 17 3 6 3 2 N 980 020 W MacMillan Oneima...\| L G HD Ftr 1 Mnk 1 16 13 18 13 14 06 23 13 1 8 3 4 N 515 485 W Martrim Stormwind..\| N N HH Ftr 2 ..... 16 16 16 10 12 08 10 19 3 6 3 1 N 981 019 L Milo Darkleaf......\| C N HL Rog 1 Evk 1 08 18 14 18 10 08 13 14 4 5 7 3 N 976 024 L Pelle..............\| N N HH Sor 2 ..... 10 10 18 08 08 18 15 10 0 6 0 2 N 955 045 W Rito Maya..........\| L N HH Mnk 2 ..... 16 16 14 08 16 08 17 16 7 5 6 6 N 488 512 L Roscoe Goodkeg.....\| C G HL Clr 2 ..... 10 18 16 10 16 08 19 19 4 7 5 7 N 770 230 L Silaqui Holimion...\| C G WE Ftr 2 ..... 18 18 12 13 10 08 18 18 4 4 4 0 N 825 175 L Skymoon Moonbow....\| L G EE Pal 2 ..... 16 10 14 10 12 16 20 16 0 8 3 4 M 979 021 W Valuppa Zanzzabar..\| N G HH Ftr 1 Div 1 12 16 16 16 10 08 22 13 7 5 3 3 F 739 261 W
xeno_eleusis 03-12-04, 06:02 AM	Alignment stats: 00.0% LE 08.0% LG, LN, NG, CE 12.5% CG, CN 37.5% True Neutral 16.7% Lawful 33.3% Chaotic 50.0% Neutral 12.5% Evil 29.2% Good 58.3% Neutral Race Stats: 04.2% Orc 12.5% Dwarf 16.7% Elf, Halfling 50.0% Human 04.2% Wood Elf 12.5% High Elf Class Stats: 45.8% Multi-class -Straight: 04.2% Barbarian, Druid, Monk, Paladin, Sorcerer, Wizard 12.5% Cleric 16.7% Fighter -Multi: 04.2% Diviner, Druid, Paladin, Sorcerer, Wizard 08.3% Evoker, Ranger, Monk 16.7% Rogue, Barbarian, Cleric, 50.0% Fighter 12.5% Specialist Wizard 16.7% Wizard of some kind Allies: 04.2% Animal Companions 08.3% Familiars 16.7% Mounts 70.8% No Ally ........\|.STR..\|.DEX..\|.CON..\|.INT..\|.WI S..\|.CHA..\|.HP...\|.AC...\|.ini.\|.For.\|.Re f.\|.Wil.\| Average.\| 14.5 \| 15.6 \| 15.1 \| 11.3 \| 11.8 \| 08.8 \| 18.5 \| 16.2 \| 3.8 \| 5.4 \| 3.8 \| 2.7 \| Median..\| 16.0 \| 16.0 \| 14.0 \| 10.0 \| 10.0 \| 08.0 \| 18.5 \| 16.5 \| 4.0 \| 5.0 \| 3.5 \| 2.5 \| Min.....\| 08.0 \| 10.0 \| 12.0 \| 06.0 \| 06.0 \| 06.0 \| 10.0 \| 10.0 \| 0.0 \| 3.0 \| 0.0 \| 0.0 \| Max.....\| 22.0 \| 20.0 \| 18.0 \| 18.0 \| 18.0 \| 18.0 \| 25.0 \| 21.0 \| 8.0 \| 8.0 \| 7.0 \| 7.0 \|
Beldin 03-12-04, 06:06 AM	interesting stats....only bilo, skymoon and rito survived...two more than the other
xeno_eleusis 03-12-04, 06:18 AM	Originally posted by Bishop the Bardican WOW, The statistics are great. It's the most interesting post I have seen in a while. Have you thought about some class vs. class statistics? Do COCO fighters generally beat monks, etc? Anyways, I agree with Hatz, more statistics, if you have the time. We could definately show that as a running stat. I would just need some help. Maybe split up the work among a couple people. Compile the data from all the fights in a spreadsheet (only the data that we are interested in , not like the ones in this thread) So what are we interested in? Class, Alignment, and Race, all corelated towards wins/loses versus Class, Alignment, and Race?