Fight of week JAN 12, 2005 Comments and Concerns [Archive] - Wizards Community

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T'Var

01-12-05, 04:02 PM
I Win I Win


and look at that, Zepher gets a last minute charector posted....very nice
Sindorin

01-12-05, 04:42 PM
*ahem* (yawn, stupid mid-day siesta...)

Please stop editing your characters. ®, ©, and ™ :D

'Tis the dawn of a New Era. Fifty men and women, a few old but many new, shall test their strength, limited magic or psionics, etc... but most of all, our characters test their courage... My characters, for one (well, three), feel priveleged to be honored by participating in Mortal Kombat(®, ©, and ™) with you all.

May the best PC's kick the lesser all over the arena.

*GONG SPLASH*®, ©, and ™

*RESONATES*

*CONTINUES TO RESONATE...*

In a big voice:

IT HAS BEGUN!®, ©, and ™

pshh...
T'Var

01-12-05, 04:59 PM
**runs thru Sindorin's post and adds a handfull of ®, ©, and ™'s as needed to keep the lawyers away**
Ayatoshi

01-12-05, 05:11 PM
YAY Death AND Destruction!!!!!!
DIE!!!!!!!!

ok yeah so where are the first pairings?
scaryfroman

01-12-05, 06:17 PM
Huzzah!

55 gladiators. If anything, this is the week of the :censored: load of credits.

Lots of fights this week...
Pitlords

01-12-05, 07:09 PM
The first LIVING GLADIUS Pairings (http://boards1.wizards.com/showthread.php?p=5179877#post5179877) are done!!

Before you storm away, please read these few lines first. This is the first Living Gladius week but it will basically be very similar to the old CoCo when it comes to pairings and tactics. Most advanced features, even Quests, are deactivated for the first few weeks as Ash and I want to see how things develop but we will add the full options step by step.

The new FAQ (http://boards1.wizards.com/showpost.php?p=5221608) can be found in the renamed "FAQ and World of Gladius (http://boards1.wizards.com/showthread.php?t=278068)" thread though some parts are still missing and some links are not working yet. I want to ask all of you to read through the FAQ sooner or later (the sooner the better) because there will be some definate changes to the old functions and we want to prevent as much mistakes as possible.

Discussions about Living Gladius will go on in the Tavern or Reformation thread, the latter will also be used for updates. If you have suggestions or questions, ask them there.

To all Pitlords: Please list all Used Items at the end, as well as how much Gold and XP the gladiators won. Keep in mind that some allies do suck 1/4 of your earned gold and xp. Also, in LG the loser of the match earns XP aswell. It would be best to read through the FAQ first. And finally I want to ask you to look over the character sheets and post any violations into the appropriate thread.

All players must link their fights and post all used items on their sheets!

Rest as always: tactics due friday, fights due monday, late penalties on tuesday.

Credit Changes:
+2: Caterane, Ashenai, LLMadCow, Pittbull, Huan, Snommelp, Ayatoshi
+1: Cellardweller, SnarkHunter, T'Var, Sindorin, Kaigan, One_Winged_Angel, Einzelganger, MadCowTemplate, Scaryfroman, Naerdaloth

Special Notes:
Please welcome our newest pitlord, Naerdaloth.

Ok friends, let's see how this works out :)

Cat

Edit: Aramil Dunskar has just posted a new character which will be paired against Flower who had been out previously. Pitlord: Ayatoshi
Kaigan

01-12-05, 07:17 PM
I have a question. The character that mine is fighting. Poe the Great's Haley Padfoot, has spent 40 pts. for abilities. I just want to let you guys know. I'll still fight, but she has to lose 4 pts.
Snommelp

01-12-05, 07:22 PM
I have a question. The character that mine is fighting. Poe the Great's Haley Padfoot, has spent 40 pts. for abilities. I just want to let you guys know. I'll still fight, but she has to lose 4 pts.
Make a note in the violations thread, and be sure to tell Poe.
T'Var

01-12-05, 07:24 PM
wouldnt ya know it....my strongest build is sitting out this week :tantrum:
Jindl

01-12-05, 07:26 PM
wouldnt ya know it....my strongest build is sitting out this week :tantrum:
I didn't quite get Jindl of the High Forest finished in time for pairings. After I finish him tomorrow, would you like to accept a pairing against him?

It would be Druid vs Druid, you can't have much more fun than that!

What do you say?

-Jindl
Pitlords

01-12-05, 07:38 PM
wouldnt ya know it....my strongest build is sitting out this week :tantrum:

Flower has been paired retroactively against Aramil Dunskar's PC. Sorry Jindl. Perhaps Beldin readies Silberfeuer.

@ALL: If you find a violation, please post it in the violations thread! I will mark this character. Do NOT edit your character sheet else you will lose the fight! Correct any mistakes after the fight.
Jindl

01-12-05, 07:55 PM
Flower has been paired retroactively against Aramil Dunskar's PC. Sorry Jindl. Perhaps Beldin readies Silberfeuer.
Okay.

@Beldin (or anyone who is interested) - Would you like to have an active PC this week? I'd be happy to have Jindl of the High Forest pair up against your PC, but I won't be able to finish the character until tomorrow. What do you say?

-Jindl
Ashenai

01-12-05, 08:29 PM
Note to all pitlords: here's a bit of help with the XP and rewards. Since it's all ECL 3 gladiators for now, it's very simple. Winner gets 900 xp and 900 gp, and the loser gets 300 xp and 300 gp. Please note these rewards at the end of the fight, when you note what everyone used, like this:

Anne won and used a Potion of Mage Armor. She gets 900 xp and 900 gp.
Bob loses, and used 6 arrows and a Scroll of Magic Missile (CL 3). He gets 300 xp and 300 gp.

Also, init rolled for the Uhmentarymster-Kiyo Zephlyn fight at Cat's behest:

Uhmentarymster: 20 +2 = 22
Kiyo Zephlyn: 15 +4 = 19

Rolls are HERE (http://krisinchico.brinkster.net/searchroll.asp?username=Uhmen-Kiyo).
One_Winged_Angel

01-12-05, 09:52 PM
Not to complain, but I thought I was dead for pitlording this week. Again, not complaining as I would like to partake as much as I can in this event.
SnarkHunter

01-12-05, 10:07 PM
Buddha's tactics PMed to Huan, best of luck OneWing

To my players-I'm leaving Thursday night and should be back sometime Sunday. So just yer tactics to me by Saturday ok?
Snommelp

01-12-05, 10:10 PM
Tactics sent to Pittbull and Scaryfroman. Both opponents have presented interesting challenges, but hopefully I can work my way around them.
Huan

01-12-05, 10:10 PM
Tactics received for the Buddha in record speed, heh heh.
Naerdaloth

01-12-05, 10:18 PM
Tactics for Naerdaloth emailed to Huan

*sacrifices a chocobo to the :dice:*
Huan

01-12-05, 10:44 PM
Tactics for Keth'Arian'Kari and Naerdaloth recieved, thank you both very much for your speed. ( Don't worry One Winged Angel, of course I'll do a story. :) )

I will do the Keth'Arian'Kari vs Buddha fight tomorrow.
cellardweller

01-12-05, 10:47 PM
Tactics Status:
Janelle sent via email
Damon sent via email

Ex Nihalo (init 12+2=14) received
Zeem (init 16+4=20) received
One_Winged_Angel

01-12-05, 11:05 PM
Tactics for Keth'Arian'Kari and Naerdaloth recieved, thank you both very much for your speed. ( Don't worry One Winged Angel, of course I'll do a story. :) )

I will do the Keth'Arian'Kari vs Buddha fight tomorrow.
Rock on!

Tactics sent for Keth (obviously). Lia's sent to Scary as well via PM as requested. Please conferm.
SnarkHunter

01-12-05, 11:08 PM
Surprisingly long tactics for Moon moon sent to One winged. Working on the last batch now...
scaryfroman

01-12-05, 11:25 PM
2 Tactics Recieved.
LLMadCow

01-12-05, 11:32 PM
@T'Var: Tactics for Dunewalker vs Exodar have been sent by PM.

@Sindorin: Tactics for Oz Savage vs Rath will be sent once character issues have been resolved for Rath. Please contact me via e-mail or PM once you know the changes to Rath, so that I can plan my tactics accordingly.

@Naerdaloth: Tactics have not been received for Farore.

@Sindorin: Tactics have not been received for Shivock.

@Pitbull: Tactics have not been received for Korn.

@Nanaleigh: Tactics have not been received for Theladrais.
One_Winged_Angel

01-12-05, 11:42 PM
Surprisingly long tactics for Moon moon sent to One winged. Working on the last batch now...
Got em. Considering printing out, but need to chop down amazon rain forest first.

*Chain saw in background*
SnarkHunter

01-12-05, 11:47 PM
Good to know Wing. We need to stop the rainforest before its to late.

Tactics for Evram sent to Cat.
scaryfroman

01-12-05, 11:48 PM
Tactics just sent to snommelp. this is going to be very, very hard. this PR stuff is killer. its like giving fighters a +8 ac bonus.


EDIT: Snommelp, i noticed overchannel applies to PR as well, so my ML check is at +4.
Snommelp

01-12-05, 11:53 PM
Tactics recieved from cellardweller and scaryfroman. Overchannel PR bonus noted.
Kaigan

01-13-05, 02:47 AM
Tactics Sent:
Rayos: Tactics sent to Pittbull
Risal: Tactics sent to Snommelp

Tactics Received:
Aureus: Ayatoshi: Not received
Lora: MadCowTemplate: Not received
stinkygoblin

01-13-05, 03:46 AM
@llmadcow sorry i sent Rex's tactics to you instead of madcowtemplate
@madcowtemplate: Rex's tactics have been sent
Pittbull

01-13-05, 04:28 AM
Tactics received from Kaigan and Snommelp.


EDIT: Tactic for Korn has been sent.

Edit2: Tactic for Boraxx has been sent.
Ashenai

01-13-05, 07:13 AM
@Mysticmonk and Snarkhunter: Note that Nachtvogel has a problem with her skills. For some reason, I thought that Hide and Move Silently were class skills for a Wilder. They're not. Nachtvogel is probably going to be picking different skills. Please consider her Hide and Move Silently skills to be 0 for this fight.
Beldin

01-13-05, 08:21 AM
@Beldin (or anyone who is interested) - Would you like to have an active PC this week?

Ok, Akhenabi was ready...lets fight
Ashenai

01-13-05, 08:27 AM
Tactics sent for Ex Nihilo and Nachtvogel.

No tactics received yet.
One_Winged_Angel

01-13-05, 09:58 AM
:censored: :censored: :censored: :censored: :censored: :censored: :censored: :censored:

I hate fate! Hate her! She is Chaotic Evil and a saddist!

Ok, normally, I wouldn't care about getting a surprise gift. But when my parents planned a surprise trip from Friday to Monday, I got a little upset. In addition to ruining my plans to get a date for Winter Dance, I am now basically screwed as far a Pitlording goes.

If I can get tactics in early today (by 2:00 PM Pacific standard time) I can actually get this fight done. Sorry!
Huan

01-13-05, 10:07 AM
@Naerdaloth
Tactics for Rook have been sent.

Expect the bare-bones of Keth'Arian'Kari vs Buddha later today.
Pittbull

01-13-05, 10:28 AM
:censored: :censored: :censored: :censored: :censored: :censored: :censored: :censored:

I hate fate! Hate her! She is Chaotic Evil and a saddist!

Ok, normally, I wouldn't care about getting a surprise gift. But when my parents planned a surprise trip from Friday to Monday, I got a little upset. In addition to ruining my plans to get a date for Winter Dance, I am now basically screwed as far a Pitlording goes.

If I can get tactics in early today (by 2:00 PM Pacific standard time) I can actually get this fight done. Sorry!


I would like to have free surprise trip, ask your parents and I will join them! ;)
But if you need support in pitlording, I'll give you a helping hand too.
T'Var

01-13-05, 11:35 AM
tactics received from Dunewalker (LLMadCow) and Exodar Theladrais (Sindorin)
Huan

01-13-05, 12:01 PM
First fight of LGL, Keth'Arian'Kari vs The Buddha (http://boards1.wizards.com/showpost.php?p=5228021), is done (bare-bones).

Short version: Lucky shot.
Jindl

01-13-05, 12:18 PM
@Beldin (or anyone who is interested) - Would you like to have an active PC this week?

Ok, Akhenabi was ready...lets fight
@Beldin - Cool. I'll put the finishing touches on Jindl of the High Forest this afternoon. If there is anything you need to change on Akhenabi, feel free to do so.

@Pitlords - Please arrange the pairing between Akhenabi and Jindl of the High Forest.

@All - Is there anyone who wants to volunteer to pitlord this fight?

-Jindl
Pittbull

01-13-05, 12:34 PM
@All - Is there anyone who wants to volunteer to pitlord this fight?

-Jindl

I have time!
SnarkHunter

01-13-05, 12:52 PM
@Huan: yay! First victory of the LG! :cool: It does feel odd to not be leveling up though.

I have time!

As do I, if it turns out your pitlording Wings fight as well.

My plans for the weekend have been canceled you see. :(.

Also, I have recieved Ash's tactics.
Snommelp

01-13-05, 01:02 PM
All tactics recieved. Fights should hopefully be up on Saturday, after my audition.
Zepher

01-13-05, 02:23 PM
@Ashenai
Tactics for Kiyo have been sent.
Sindorin

01-13-05, 03:14 PM
All tactics recieved. Fights should hopefully be up on Saturday, after my audition.

What are you auditioning for?

Just curious.
Snommelp

01-13-05, 03:17 PM
What are you auditioning for?

Just curious.
The symphony orchestra at my college. I want to get in, because they're playing Bolero this semester, which is the penultimate orchestral piece for trombone.
SnarkHunter

01-13-05, 03:53 PM
Best of luck with that then! And just out of curiousity, if Bolero is the punultimate, whats the ultimate?

@Cat: Ah, its good to see the LG starting off right :cool:. But I did notices a couple things I'll note for posterity: Bitey didn't have improved Grab so Damon would get an AoO when he moves in to start the grapple.

And without precise shot theres a -4 to the role for firing the ray into melee.

Cellar might notice more.
Ashenai

01-13-05, 03:54 PM
Tactics for Kiyo and Uhmen...thingy received. (Seriously, Cat, this name is worse than Dre'Dandrahl. I didn't think that was possible ;) )
Caterane

01-13-05, 04:09 PM
@Cat: Ah, its good to see the LG starting off right . But I did notices a couple things I'll note for posterity: Bitey didn't have improved Grab so Damon would get an AoO when he moves in to start the grapple.

And without precise shot theres a -4 to the role for firing the ray into melee.

Cellar might notice more.

Brrr, that's why I hate to use the online roller though with these unbelievable rolls I'm glad I did use it.

I forgot that Damon has a spiked gauntlet; thought he is weaponless when the construct grappled.
Ok: AoO: 10+4=14 vs Ac22, fails (http://krisinchico.brinkster.net/searchroll.asp?username=Evram-Damon#141787)

As for the firing into melee, Evram could always fire before his construct. But even if not, the -4 doesn't matter.
Ayatoshi

01-13-05, 04:27 PM
Can I request all tactics by PM from now on

@T'Var: Tactics not recieved
Zactor 15+4=19
Kwerrock 3+2=5
@Dalton: Tactics not recieved

@T'Var: The Sequel: Tactics not recieved
Flower 5 +2 =7
Grakk 12 +3 = 15
@Aramil: Tactics not recieved

@Kaigan:Send Later Today

@Sindorin: Sent
Snommelp

01-13-05, 04:36 PM
@SnarkHunter: Doolallynastics. Wait, that's solo trombone... nevermind, Bolero is ultimate.
@ my combatants: since I'll be running the fights after my audition, look for them around 6:00 Arizona time (currently Mountain time; Arizona doesn't do daylight savings).
T'Var

01-13-05, 04:42 PM
@T'Var: Tactics not recieved

@Dalton: Tactics not recieved

@T'Var: The Sequel: Tactics not recieved

@Aramil: Tactics not recieved

@Kaigan:Send Later Today

@Sindorin: Send Later Today

I'll send all my tactics here in about 2.5 hours, still at work atm
One_Winged_Angel

01-13-05, 05:12 PM
But if you need support in pitlording, I'll give you a helping hand too.
I'm afraid I'll have to take you up on that offer. I have a math test to study for in addition to others...

If the pitlords would make the appropriate changes...?
Jindl

01-13-05, 05:42 PM
Okay, since Pitlords hasn't commented yet, I'll take it upon myself to make these changes:

Klaxon (T'Var) vs Skymoon Moonbow (SnarkHunter): Pittbull
Akhenabi Silberfeuer (Beldin) vs Jindl of the High Forest (Jindl): Snarkhunter

Credit changes: One_Winged_Angel -1, Pittbull +1, Snarkhunter +1

Please go ahead and send your tactics to the pitlords listed above.

@Pitlords - please copy this into the official pairings list :D

-Jindl
Pitlords

01-13-05, 06:15 PM
Okay, since Pitlords hasn't commented yet, I'll take it upon myself to make these changes:

Klaxon (T'Var) vs Skymoon Moonbow (SnarkHunter): Pittbull
Akhenabi Silberfeuer (Beldin) vs Jindl of the High Forest (Jindl): Snarkhunter

Credit changes: One_Winged_Angel -1, Pittbull +1, Snarkhunter +1

Please go ahead and send your tactics to the pitlords listed above.

@Pitlords - please copy this into the official pairings list :D

-Jindl

Sounds good to me
Maverick Knight

01-13-05, 07:19 PM
@Einzelgaenger Tactics for Arcturus sent by e-mail.
cellardweller

01-13-05, 08:17 PM
Cellar might notice more.
Short of hacking the wizards website and re-writing the SRD, I don't think anything is going to help Damon in that fight.
T'Var

01-13-05, 08:32 PM
tactics sent to pittbull and to Ayatoshi x2
Naerdaloth

01-13-05, 08:50 PM
Both tactics recieved for my fight, I'll start stuffs soon as I finish homework here.
scaryfroman

01-13-05, 08:56 PM
Lia Nailo (One_Winged_Angel) vs. Ala’andor Amastacia (Snommelp)
is up. I'm not entirely sure i ran the last couple of rounds right, though. If the spell ends when he goes unconscious, then Lia saves 3 arrows.
Jindl

01-13-05, 08:56 PM
Tactics for the Elder have been PM'd to Huan.

Tactics for Jindl of the High Forest have been PM'd to Snarkhunter.

-Jindl
Jindl

01-13-05, 09:09 PM
Lia Nailo (One_Winged_Angel) vs. Ala’andor Amastacia (Snommelp)
is up. I'm not entirely sure i ran the last couple of rounds right, though. If the spell ends when he goes unconscious, then Lia saves 3 arrows.
The spell is never completed because Ala'andor falls unconscious during the casting time. ;)

-Jindl
SnarkHunter

01-13-05, 09:10 PM
Scary, the two shots should have incurred two Concentration checks. If those don't both succed, then yeah he prolly saved some arrows.

Recieved tactics from Jindl and Wing.
SnarkHunter

01-13-05, 09:16 PM
Short of hacking the wizards website and re-writing the SRD, I don't think anything is going to help Damon in that fight.

I tried it once, didn't work to well. (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v283/SquishyOssifrage/SRD.jpg)

@Jindl: My you're fast.
T'Var

01-13-05, 09:27 PM
I tried it once, didn't work to well. (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v283/SquishyOssifrage/SRD.jpg)




yet again....the artwork in this forum scares the :censored: out of me
SnarkHunter

01-13-05, 09:51 PM
@T'var: I'll take that as a compliment :D.

Also, I just forwarded Moon-Moon's tactics to Pitbull. Working on the Nacht vs. Lissa fight right now.
Ashenai

01-13-05, 10:01 PM
Uhmentarymster vs. Kiyo Zephlyn is done. Amazing fight. Really annoying to run (with rampant pitlord adaptation for both sides), the winner was a toss-up until the very last round.
scaryfroman

01-13-05, 10:18 PM
fixed- i think.
SnarkHunter

01-13-05, 10:40 PM
Nacht vs. Lissa is up (http://boards1.wizards.com/showthread.php?p=5231591#post5231591).

Took a while to run, but not very difficult.

Be sure to check red ink.
Einzelgaenger

01-13-05, 10:50 PM
Tactics recieved from Sindorin and Maverick Knight
*cracks open EPH* wow, all the new rules and stuff to learn...
Naerdaloth

01-13-05, 10:53 PM
Emad vs Rook up (http://boards1.wizards.com/showpost.php?p=5231689&postcount=1162), hopefully as error free as possible.

Fore-note: Con = important. ...
Ashenai

01-13-05, 11:19 PM
Nacht vs. Lissa is up (http://boards1.wizards.com/showthread.php?p=5231591#post5231591).

Took a while to run, but not very difficult.

Be sure to check red ink.

Well run, as always. Note, though, that Nachtvogel is female. A gurl. Womyn. You know.

My you are in a hurry, normally you would use a buff that doesn’t overlap with one’s normal armor. I’m going to go ahead and make this Force Screen. If you don’t like feel free to take back the 25 gp.

Yes, apparently I'm not very bright. Thanks for adapting.
Huan

01-13-05, 11:30 PM
@Snommelp
Wow, small world, I used to play trombone, too (I remember all of the concerts and competitions I would audition for and get to play in). Stopped playing after 5 years, though (other interests). Good times.

@Jindl
Tactics for the Elder received. Fight will be run tomorrow.
Zepher

01-13-05, 11:34 PM
Wow, that was a good fight Ashenai. I am glad Kiyo did so well (to think, If that last arrow missed, I might have won). Still, I gave a good opponent a run for his money, so no shame in losing. As Huan always tells me in real life, "You live by the dice, you die by the dice."
Huan

01-13-05, 11:37 PM
As Huan always tells me in real life, "You live by the dice, you die by the dice."

Yeah, I do always say that ... in fact, I'm putting that in my signature. ;)
Dalton Onestone

01-13-05, 11:54 PM
Can I request all tactics by PM from now on

@T'Var: Tactics not recieved
Zactor 15+4=19
Kwerrock 3+2=5
@Dalton: Tactics not recieved


Sent now.

I don't necessarily want to confess to being wordy, but I had to break the thing into two pieces to make the 5000 char limit.


Incidently, at my high school the favorite trombone piece was Sleigh Ride. They were still playing it during warmups in May. :) That the community was largely Jewish was irrelevant; we played Christmas music ...

The violists' favorite piece was the Egmont Overture, in which they carry the theme just as the violins do.

I played violin, and hence had lots of favorites.

And all this was before most of you were probably born. :D
T'Var

01-14-05, 12:45 AM
Can I request all tactics by PM from now on

@T'Var: Tactics not recieved
Zactor 15+4=19
Kwerrock 3+2=5
@Dalton: Tactics not recieved

@T'Var: The Sequel: Tactics not recieved
Flower 5 +2 =7
Grakk 12 +3 = 15
@Aramil: Tactics not recieved



Can you confirm you got both of my tactics Ayatoshi?
thanks and uh...thanks
(get it......cause of the two fights......ok bad joke)
Kaigan

01-14-05, 02:48 AM
Received tactics from Madcowtemplate.
Still awaiting tactics for Aureus Nailo
OdinTheReaper

01-14-05, 02:52 AM
Sent Odin's tactics to MadCowTemplate via email.
Sindorin

01-14-05, 03:18 AM
All three of my characters' tactics have been sent out to their respective pitlords via private messages.

I have recieved revisions and tactics from Ayatoshi regarding Rath. The changes (but not the tactics, though it may have been a close call) have been sent to LLMadCow.
Pittbull

01-14-05, 04:13 AM
@T'Var and Snark: Received your tactics!

Still got none from Poe the Great!
T'Var

01-14-05, 09:41 AM
all tactics received, I will run both fights tonight
One_Winged_Angel

01-14-05, 09:49 AM
Lia Nailo (One_Winged_Angel) vs. Ala’andor Amastacia (Snommelp)
is up. I'm not entirely sure i ran the last couple of rounds right, though. If the spell ends when he goes unconscious, then Lia saves 3 arrows.
Well, I'm 1 for 1.

Oh, and Snark, your Buddah has to be the luckiest dude on the face of the planet. I had such a nice AC too...
Pittbull

01-14-05, 10:29 AM
Fight Indri vs. Tara (http://boards1.wizards.com/showpost.php?p=5234118&postcount=1163) is posted. Please check, if I made any mistakes.
Snommelp

01-14-05, 10:34 AM
Hrm... I'm 0 for 2... but those were probably the two worst opponents for my gladiators to face, so... yeah... and thanks for not using the potion, Pittbull. I'm saving it for later.

EDIT: Did notice one thing. The chain shirt that Cat pointed out the armor check penalty for is a Mithral chain shirt, which has no armor check penalty. Don't think that effects the fight, but it should be noted for future reference.
Dalton Onestone

01-14-05, 10:40 AM
In the extremely unlikely event somebody still wants to celebrate opening week with another pairing, Yagre is up and ready to go (5th page of the characters thread). I can get tactics in tonight, maybe not by midnight GMT but certainly sometime tonight EST.

If not, he'll be smoothed out and ready to rumble next week.

@cat -- I copied your character sheet again, which means I went over it with a fine toothed comb and saw a few anomalies, none important. Armor for tiny creatures has 1/2 the AC for mediums, but I think you may have overlooked the natural armor bonus all familiars get. And you might want to recheck the weight of arrows.
T'Var

01-14-05, 10:46 AM
@ Pittbull

the one thing i noticed, was round 8 you had tara fire normally again. when she could have used a round to re-hide and begin snipping again.

yes Indri knows where she is, but if they loose sight of her due to cover+hide check snipping can be restarted.

might have changed the whole thing since Indri would need to re-spot her to return fire

Also, did you take into account the distance negitive to Indri's spot? -1/10ft
Huan

01-14-05, 10:59 AM
Bare bones of Naerdaloth vs The Elder (http://boards1.wizards.com/showpost.php?p=5234245) is up.

Expect story revisions for both fights by Sunday/Monday. I want to do something insightful for the Buddha vs Keth fight, since it was the first one in LGL. ;)
T'Var

01-14-05, 11:01 AM
Bare bones of Naerdaloth vs The Elder (http://boards1.wizards.com/showpost.php?p=5234245) is up.

Expect story revisions for both fights by Sunday/Monday. I want to do something insightful for the Buddha vs Keth fight, since it was the first one in LGL. ;)


Round 3, Elder casts sleep.
Sleeps casting time i 1 round, that means he starts casting on round 3 and the spell is cast just before Elder takes his turn on round 4 (see casting times in SRD). so Naerdaloth would have a chance to attack, run, ect ect ect all before the spell is cast.
Huan

01-14-05, 11:40 AM
Round 3, Elder casts sleep.
Sleeps casting time i 1 round, that means he starts casting on round 3 and the spell is cast just before Elder takes his turn on round 4 (see casting times in SRD). so Naerdaloth would have a chance to attack, run, ect ect ect all before the spell is cast.

Ah, forgot about that. Well, in that case it would not have been cast, since it would have been a full round action and Elder already moved. I will rerun starting from round 3.
Huan

01-14-05, 12:00 PM
Well, I redid the fight (http://boards1.wizards.com/showpost.php?p=5234245) ... and T'Var was right, it did change something ... Elder won faster and saved money on a scroll -_-;
Pittbull

01-14-05, 12:00 PM
@ Pittbull

the one thing i noticed, was round 8 you had tara fire normally again. when she could have used a round to re-hide and begin snipping again.

(1)yes Indri knows where she is, but if they loose sight of her due to cover+hide check snipping can be restarted.

might have changed the whole thing since Indri would need to re-spot her to return fire

(2)Also, did you take into account the distance negitive to Indri's spot? -1/10ft


(1) Yes, your right! I didn't roll for that because it's wasn't possible for her to come close enough to get a sneak-attack - to much open field. But rehinding might give a chance for more attack-rolls on her side, if Indri will not see her.

(2) I totally forgot that, the distance is 45feet, so a -4 will be applied on sthe spot-checks.

Thanks, for looking so closely! :)


Edit: Edited the fight, but same result!

Edit2: Fight Klaxon vs Skymoon is almost ready! But will be posted unfortunately on monday morning, because I'm leaving work now! Nice weekend to all!

Edit3:@Poe: still have no tactic from you.
Naerdaloth

01-14-05, 05:26 PM
Hrm... I'm 0 for 2... but those were probably the two worst opponents for my gladiators to face, so... yeah... and thanks for not using the potion, Pittbull. I'm saving it for later.



Heh. I fear my case will be the same. :/
T'Var

01-14-05, 05:49 PM
Edit2: Fight Klaxon vs Skymoon is almost ready! But will be posted unfortunately on monday morning, because I'm leaving work now! Nice weekend to all!

ahh! your killin me Pittbull, KILLIN me :bigeyes: :tantrum:
Pittbull

01-14-05, 06:57 PM
ahh! your killin me Pittbull, KILLIN me :bigeyes: :tantrum:

Quite a couriosity:

Tomorrow I will be at work, which is about 60 km away from my home, not as a doctor but as a patient. Got a little accident and it'll be fixed tomorrow. So my miss-fortune is your luck, I will post your fight tomorrow. But I'm realy not looking forward to go to the dentist, you can believe me!
T'Var

01-14-05, 09:19 PM
Quite a couriosity:

Tomorrow I will be at work, which is about 60 km away from my home, not as a doctor but as a patient. Got a little accident and it'll be fixed tomorrow. So my miss-fortune is your luck, I will post your fight tomorrow. But I'm realy not looking forward to go to the dentist, you can believe me!

whats that saying....doctors make the worst patients

hope everything is ok
Snommelp

01-14-05, 09:22 PM
whats that saying....doctors make the worst patients

hope everything is ok
They make the worst patients because they know everything that can go wrong...

In other news, it turns out my audition is on Tuesday, so you can look forward to my two fights earlier tomorrow... possibly.
Ayatoshi

01-14-05, 10:33 PM
One issue with my fight it states that I will gain additional AC from the Animal Affinity so obviously it was for Dex because in the end it would have resulted in all but his critted attack missing...

BTW: the Ac was listed in the wrong order it should have been
Round 1:
AC 21
Round 2:
AC 25
Round 3:
AC 26
Ayatoshi

01-14-05, 10:35 PM
All tactics sent and recieved...
Fights up tommorow...
T'Var

01-14-05, 11:49 PM
Dunewalker vs Exodar is up
T'Var

01-15-05, 12:07 AM
as I was going thru both char sheets for Elishar vs Chival I came across a Red Violation on Elishar's char sheet.


Spells-Specialty-Evocation Forbidden- Div Trans


You CanNOT take Divination as a forbidden school
therefor the above match is placed on hold until such time as vipergtsmk can post here (No not edit your char sheet) what his new forbidden school would be, or the Pitlords cancel the match
Ashenai

01-15-05, 12:16 AM
as I was going thru both char sheets for Elishar vs Chival I came across a Red Violation on Elishar's char sheet.


You CanNOT take Divination as a forbidden school
therefor the above match is placed on hold until such time as vipergtsmk can post here (No not edit your char sheet) what his new forbidden school would be, or the Pitlords cancel the match

Well spotted, that is indeed a red violation. Nonetheless, the fight should be finished on time as normal, since the mistake is not a fight-stopper, and Chival shouldn't be punished for a violation on Elishar.

If Vipergtsmk posts in time, you can take his chosen new forbidden school into account when running the fight; otherwise, just run it as-is and he'll have to choose a new forbidden school before the next pairings.
T'Var

01-15-05, 12:18 AM
alrighty, looks like the fight is back on

EDIT Chival vs Elishar is up
Kaigan

01-15-05, 03:16 AM
@Ayatoshi: Could you please resend tactics for Aureus. I have not received them yet.
Sindorin

01-15-05, 03:36 AM
One issue with my fight it states that I will gain additional AC from the Animal Affinity so obviously it was for Dex because in the end it would have resulted in all but his critted attack missing...

BTW: the Ac was listed in the wrong order it should have been
Round 1:
AC 21
Round 2:
AC 25
Round 3:
AC 26

Instead of expecting me to infer something from your tactics, why didn't you just say "I would like my Animal Affinity to get me a +4 bonus to Dex, please?"

Re: Exodar vs. Dunewalker...

What a nail-biter... that was some close stuff. Good fight, T'Var.
Dalton Onestone

01-15-05, 03:39 AM
as I was going thru both char sheets for Elishar vs Chival I came across a Red Violation on Elishar's char sheet.



You CanNOT take Divination as a forbidden school
therefor the above match is placed on hold until such time as vipergtsmk can post here (No not edit your char sheet) what his new forbidden school would be, or the Pitlords cancel the match

I posted that violation days ago. But then, except for Caterane I didn't get the sense people were paying attention to those posts ... :)
T'Var

01-15-05, 08:37 AM
I posted that violation days ago. But then, except for Caterane I didn't get the sense people were paying attention to those posts ... :)


nod, well with 50+ gladiators, it really falls on who is pitlording the individual fights to check in detail in the beginning to make sure everything is par
Ayatoshi

01-15-05, 09:08 AM
Instead of expecting me to infer something from your tactics, why didn't you just say "I would like my Animal Affinity to get me a +4 bonus to Dex, please?"

Re: Exodar vs. Dunewalker...

What a nail-biter... that was some close stuff. Good fight, T'Var.
I thought I wrote that but i guess I didn't sorry but that fact cost the whole fight for me..I was wondering if you could just continue it from there with the changed AC and stuff becasue it only changes the last round
Pittbull

01-15-05, 09:15 AM
The fight Klaxon vs. Skymoon (http://boards1.wizards.com/showpost.php?p=5239850&postcount=1168) is posted!
T'Var

01-15-05, 10:01 AM
nice fight, my only problem is that in the final round she cannot move away from me, and charge in the same round. she would have to move away in round 4, and charge round 5
SnarkHunter

01-15-05, 10:39 AM
sInce is when is Skymoon a she :confused: :weep:.

;)
T'Var

01-15-05, 10:50 AM
sInce is when is Skymoon a she :confused: :weep:.

;)

oh come on....elf name....and that picture.....total chick features
Kaigan

01-15-05, 11:32 AM
@Ayatoshi: please resend tactics for aureus via PM Thank you
Ashenai

01-15-05, 12:26 PM
sInce is when is Skymoon a she :confused: :weep:.

;)

Hahaha, now you know how it feels! *gloats*
Sindorin

01-15-05, 02:39 PM
I thought I wrote that but i guess I didn't sorry but that fact cost the whole fight for me..I was wondering if you could just continue it from there with the changed AC and stuff becasue it only changes the last round

Sure, I will take a look at it.

The first hit was the crit and that would even be confirmed if you had a higher dex bonus. The final hit was against your charging AC, which I did because it seemed like you needed to get to him as quickly as possible.

It doesn't say how you are supposed to get into melee with him in your tactics so I am not going to rerun this with you not charging. You left it in my hands and charging seemed to be the best chance you had.
Snommelp

01-15-05, 06:10 PM
Janelle vs. DoD (http://boards1.wizards.com/showpost.php?p=5242242) is up. Risal Atess vs. Boraxx will be up... after a word from our sponsors.
T'Var

01-15-05, 06:30 PM
Janelle vs. DoD (http://boards1.wizards.com/showpost.php?p=5242242) is up. Risal Atess vs. Boraxx will be up... after a word from our sponsors.

Round 1: The Devourer taps his tattoo of Force Screen (AC=15) and manifests an overchanneled vigor, expending his focus to avoid damage. Meanwhile, his mount begins to move the Devourer around the arena.

tapping a tattoo is a standerd action like drinking a potion is, so Devourer could not tap the tattoo and manifest in round 1
Snommelp

01-15-05, 06:36 PM
tapping a tattoo is a standerd action like drinking a potion is, so Devourer could not tap the tattoo and manifest in round 1
easily fixed: he does nothing but move in round 2, so I'll put the manifestation there instead. I'll get all of this psionic stuff figured out soon enough!
scaryfroman

01-15-05, 07:54 PM
Huzzah! I thought that would be a lot harder. That PR 11 is very intimidating. I thought the 1/3 rule would affect me more, but it seems ok so far. Well fought, though.
Ayatoshi

01-15-05, 11:06 PM
@sindorin: ok that's fine then...
Snommelp

01-16-05, 12:09 AM
Risal vs. Boraxx (http://boards1.wizards.com/showpost.php?p=5244069) is up. Or, to more accurately title it, "Boraxx against the World" is up. Oh, by the way, whenever I wrote "cover" and then a percentage, that was the roll to hit against concealment, not cover. It's just that "concealment" is a long word that I never spell right.
Ashenai

01-16-05, 01:05 AM
(...) that was the roll to hit against concealment, not cover. It's just that "concealment" is a long word that I never spell right.

Hmm, you're 2 for 2 so far... :D
Snommelp

01-16-05, 02:44 AM
Hmm, you're 2 for 2 so far... :D
Yeah, but with both of them I had to delete an E that snuck in.

Back on the topic of fights, I can usually tell who's going to win the fights I run based off of the tactics sent, but Janelle vs. Devourer of Dreams surprised me, and Risal vs. Boraxx almost had an upset from my perspective. I suppose sometimes it really does come down to the luck of the dice.
cellardweller

01-16-05, 02:51 AM
Yeah, but with both of them I had to delete an E that snuck in.

Back on the topic of fights, I can usually tell who's going to win the fights I run based off of the tactics sent, but Janelle vs. Devourer of Dreams surprised me, and Risal vs. Boraxx almost had an upset from my perspective. I suppose sometimes it really does come down to the luck of the dice.

J vs DoD was always going to be "whoever hits first wins". While I'm on the topic, Janelle should have been using readied actions to fire arrows as requested . When your bab is < 6 there is no reason not to. It would not have changed the outcome, so there is no need to change anything - just for future reference.
Snommelp

01-16-05, 02:59 AM
The answer to that bit, cellardweller, is actually pretty simple. I took the "negate cover" part to be more important than the "ready action" part (my brain works that way; if it comes first, it's more important). The first time she saw the Devourer he was out of range, and the second time she saw him he was, so I thought that it would fit at least the spirit of your tactics if she fired at him then and there. If that is not what you intended with your tactics, I apologize. Also, I expected that PR 11 to be a bigger factor in the fight.
cellardweller

01-16-05, 03:13 AM
you know that the range listed is the size of the increment and you can fire further than that right? ie for a comp bow 0-110 no modifier, 115-220 -2, 225-330 -4 etc (up to 10 increments for projectiles, 5 for thrown weapons).

Again, I'm not complaining, just making sure it it done correct in future.
Einzelgaenger

01-16-05, 04:27 AM
Arcturus vs Sokai up...blech, I'm sorry it came down to an arrow duel.
Kaigan

01-16-05, 04:42 AM
@Ayatoshi: I need tactics to be sent again for Aureus. By Pm please. Or else I'll have to run the fight with default tactics.
Dalton Onestone

01-16-05, 05:12 AM
Arcturus vs Sokai up...blech, I'm sorry it came down to an arrow duel.

I don't think that multiple Vigors stack. That seems clear in the SRD.
T'Var

01-16-05, 07:47 AM
I don't think that multiple Vigors stack. That seems clear in the SRD.


that is correct, Multi vigors do Not stack, you have to wait until one vigor is gone before casting the next because the temp hp overlapps not stacks
Snommelp

01-16-05, 12:40 PM
you know that the range listed is the size of the increment and you can fire further than that right? ie for a comp bow 0-110 no modifier, 115-220 -2, 225-330 -4 etc (up to 10 increments for projectiles, 5 for thrown weapons).

Again, I'm not complaining, just making sure it it done correct in future.
Yeah, I just figured you wouldn't want to take the negative to-hit. In retrospect, perhaps there should have been two arrows shot instead of one, but if you are truly alright with the result then I'm not going to change the fight.
Huan

01-16-05, 12:40 PM
Perhaps Maverick Knight made a typo in reference here, but Sokai does seem to have an error in his potions (not that it affected the outcome of the fight). The potion of Fly is the one that costs 750 instead of 300 gp.

EDIT: Not to make make Einzelgaenger groan, but with all the multiple manifestings of overlapped Vigors (around 3 or 4), a rerun may be in order.
Sindorin

01-16-05, 01:05 PM
Perhaps Maverick Knight made a typo in reference here, but Sokai does seem to have an error in his potions (not that it affected the outcome of the fight). The potion of Fly is the one that costs 750 instead of 300 gp.

EDIT: Not to make make Einzelgaenger groan, but with all the multiple manifestings of overlapped Vigors (around 3 or 4), a rerun may be in order.

I guess that kind of is true. If Einzelgaenger wants to, he can. If Einz had known that they don't stack, he could have followed my tactics to remanifest whenever Sokai gets below 13 hps. Either way it probably would have ended up re-vigoring... maybe even making the fight last longer. The main attempt of those tactics was to produce longevity out of 1/3 of my power points, wild surging 1 pp powers can theoretically multiply the 1/3 amount three fold, just not as potent.

heh, with a possible rerun, i am worried i might go 0-3 this week. Oh well, it happens.
Dalton Onestone

01-16-05, 02:09 PM
This didn't affect the outcome, but shouldn't Alexis's movement penalty against Korn have been -4 (half of -8) rather than -2?

If she shot more than halfway through a double move, what she really was doing was shooting from a running horse during the first half of his quadruple move.
Einzelgaenger

01-16-05, 02:24 PM
that is correct, Multi vigors do Not stack, you have to wait until one vigor is gone before casting the next because the temp hp overlapps not stacks
they replace eachother then?, ok, then at the end, Sindorin, you are not unscratched. Sindorin still wins, but is not unscratched, you end with 17 hp instead of 19.
Kaigan

01-16-05, 03:57 PM
@Snommelp:

I just have one little thing with the fight, Risal vs. Borrax.

In round 5 where borrax drops his bow, draws his lance, and charges. I don't think that is possible, because a charge is a full round action, and drawing a weapon is a move action.

Also in round 6, how does the damage add up to 14 total damage to the pig from my horse.

Jed is upset by this and adjusts five feet, attacking Babe with a full attack (Hoof A 13+4+2=19 hits for 6, Hoof B 20! Confirmation 5+4=9 hits for 4, Bite 20! Confirmation 13-1+2=14 confirmed hits for 8), rending the pig for 14 points of damage.

From what is writtne, it should be 18 points. 6 from first hoof, 4 from second hoof, and 8 from bite.
But it's okay, because you wrote it in the end of round summary.

But yeah, apart for my question about the charge, everything looks good.
If anyone else could shed some light on the charge issue: Is it possible to draw weapon (move action) and charge (full round action) in the same round.
I don't think it will change anything.

Oh yeah, just one more thing... This might do a little something, I won't win. Pittbull's character is hard to fight with a rogue. But in round four when i dropped the bow to pull out the tanglefoot bag, I specified in my tactics to ready my action to throw bag when he got in range.

As I said, I probably won't affect the outcome but it may do something :D.

Oh and Ayatoshi: I need those tactics for Aureus to be resent. ASAP
Snommelp

01-16-05, 04:21 PM
1) The 14 points is from before I remembered the +2 for flanking, which changed the bite from a hit to a confirmed critical. As you said, though, I remembered it in the end-of-round summary.
2) Good catch on the charge. Every attack that round missed, though, and he was in attack range without the charge, so nothing would have changed. Also, since he was mounted, that may or may not effect whether or not he could charge.
3) It says in the PHB that readying is a standard action. Unfortunately, with the moving around and drawing of the tanglefoot bag, you had no actions left that round, so I did what I could. Actually, since drawing the bag was a move action, I'm not entirely sure Risal should have been able to draw it in Round 4 (he moved a total of 25 feet), but that also has no effect on the outcome of the fight.
Kaigan

01-16-05, 05:10 PM
@Cat or Ashenai: What should I do? Ayatoshi sent his tactics but I haven't received them. I've stated several times (at least 3) that he should resend his tactics via PM and so far, I haen't received any. I want your guy's opinion on what to do.

But if I don't receive the tactics by 9pm Eastern time, then I'm going to have to use default tactics, or make something up. I have a very busy monday, so I'd like to get the fight done tonight.

Thanks.
Ashenai

01-16-05, 05:48 PM
@Cat or Ashenai: What should I do? Ayatoshi sent his tactics but I haven't received them. I've stated several times (at least 3) that he should resend his tactics via PM and so far, I haen't received any. I want your guy's opinion on what to do.

You promptly asked him to re-send, and you've given him over 36 hours now. I don't think there's anything more you can do. Perhaps PM or email the guy?

But if I don't receive the tactics by 9pm Eastern time, then I'm going to have to use default tactics, or make something up. I have a very busy monday, so I'd like to get the fight done tonight.

That sounds fair.
Dalton Onestone

01-16-05, 08:03 PM
Something must have come up in Ayatoshi's life, to either make him busy or to interfere with his online access. He said a few days ago the fights he was pitlording would be up in a day, and so far as I can tell they're not up yet.
SnarkHunter

01-16-05, 10:20 PM
Jindl 2 (The return) vs. Akhenabi is up. (http://boards1.wizards.com/showthread.php?p=5249631&posted=1#post5249631)

Not sure but I think the victor may have spent more then he won.
Dalton Onestone

01-16-05, 10:30 PM
Jindl 2 (The return) vs. Akhenabi is up. (http://boards1.wizards.com/showthread.php?p=5249631&posted=1#post5249631)

Not sure but I think the victor may have spent more then he won.

Does Mirror Image do any good for a mounted combatant? I would think not, because the location of the horse is a giveaway as to which image is the real one. I think you didn't take it into account, which IMO would be correct.

On the other hand, I think Invisibility would give 50% concealment, even on horseback.
T'Var

01-16-05, 10:39 PM
Does Mirror Image do any good for a mounted combatant? I would think not, because the location of the horse is a giveaway as to which image is the real one. I think you didn't take it into account, which IMO would be correct.

On the other hand, I think Invisibility would give 50% concealment, even on horseback.

If you're mounted and you cast Mirror Image, only you are duplicated; your mount is not. However, this gives your opponent no help if he's trying to attack you; all of the images seem to be sitting on the same horse. You can imagine them leaning in different directions, for example. The fact remains that--while your opponent can attack the mount with no miss chance--if he attacks you, he'll have to deal with the Mirror Image as normal.

Invisability grants Full concealment, you may know s/he is mounted but since you cannot see them what so ever they are granted all the pros
Huan

01-16-05, 11:17 PM
If you're mounted and you cast Mirror Image, only you are duplicated; your mount is not. However, this gives your opponent no help if he's trying to attack you; all of the images seem to be sitting on the same horse. You can imagine them leaning in different directions, for example. The fact remains that--while your opponent can attack the mount with no miss chance--if he attacks you, he'll have to deal with the Mirror Image as normal.

Invisability grants Full concealment, you may know s/he is mounted but since you cannot see them what so ever they are granted all the pros

Ahh, brings back fresh memories, doesn't it T'Var? ;)
SnarkHunter

01-16-05, 11:19 PM
If you're mounted and you cast Mirror Image, only you are duplicated; your mount is not. However, this gives your opponent no help if he's trying to attack you; all of the images seem to be sitting on the same horse. You can imagine them leaning in different directions, for example. The fact remains that--while your opponent can attack the mount with no miss chance--if he attacks you, he'll have to deal with the Mirror Image as normal.

Invisability grants Full concealment, you may know s/he is mounted but since you cannot see them what so ever they are granted all the pros

That's pretty much how I figured it yeah. Since a horse is large sized, I supposed there be plenty of room on top of it...
T'Var

01-16-05, 11:59 PM
Ahh, brings back fresh memories, doesn't it T'Var? ;)

hehe indeed it does
Jindl

01-17-05, 12:18 AM
sInce is when is Skymoon a she :confused: :weep:.

;)
Yeah, well since when is Jindl a "her"? ;)

Jindl finishes her scroll and a swarm of bats appears...

Not sure but I think the victor may have spent more then he won.
Spent 800 gp and 6 xp, won 900 gp and 900 xp. Will put it in the black column, but still a very expensive victory.

-Jindl
Jindl

01-17-05, 12:51 AM
@Ashenai + MysticMonk + Pitlords -

Please see the following quote:
Epilogue
Lissa wins and used 31 arrows. She is awarded 900 gold and 900 xp. Nacht used a power stone of Force Screen (or Inertial Armor, if you prefer) and 10 bolts.

Nacht is incorrectly listed as having won the fight on the roster.
Lissa incorrectly lists losing the fight on her character sheet.

Just FYI :D

-Jindl
Pittbull

01-17-05, 03:17 AM
nice fight, my only problem is that in the final round she cannot move away from me, and charge in the same round. she would have to move away in round 4, and charge round 5

Why is it impossible to move away from you and charge in the same round?
Example.

Horse has 50 feet base-movement, for a charge you need a full-round-action, but can double-move. The last 10 feet have to be in a direct line. So, he moves the horse backwards for circa 15 feet (gets an AoO) and charges 10 feet forward. I think, that's possible.
Ashenai

01-17-05, 03:30 AM
Why is it impossible to move away from you and charge in the same round?
Example.

Horse has 50 feet base-movement, for a charge you need a full-round-action, but can double-move. The last 10 feet have to be in a direct line.

No, I'm afraid you've misunderstood Charge. You have to move at least 10 feet to charge (meaning you can't charge an opponent who's less than 10 feet away), but the entire movement of the charge must be in a direct line towards your opponent. You can't move back and then charge in the same round.

So, he moves the horse backwards for circa 15 feet (gets an AoO) and charges 10 feet forward. I think, that's possible.

Nope. The description is rather badly phrased, though, so I can see how one could come up with your interpretation.
Pittbull

01-17-05, 05:16 AM
@Ash:
Thanks!

@T'Var:
Sorry for the mistake, but it dosn't change to outcome, because Sky can move backward in round 4, as you allready noted.

@Poe the Great:
I don't know, but I think this is the fifth time that I please you to send me a tactic. I'll wait until 6 pm (CET), if there won't be any tactics, Rayos will fight your pony without a rider and you won't get any money and XP. So, please send me anything, I want a fair fight.
Dalton Onestone

01-17-05, 06:25 AM
All tactics sent and recieved...
Fights up tommorow...

:: taps fingers ::

I hope real life releases you to rejoin us soon!
T'Var

01-17-05, 07:05 AM
All tactics sent and recieved...
Fights up tommorow...

:: taps fingers ::

I hope real life releases you to rejoin us soon!


your tellin me....he is running 2 out of my 3 gladiators
Ayatoshi

01-17-05, 08:22 AM
Real sorry I got pulled away due to stuff...
yeah long story...
I'll start them right now...
Dalton Onestone

01-17-05, 08:55 AM
Real sorry I got pulled away due to stuff...
yeah long story...
I'll start them right now...

In case you missed it, one of your tactics as gladiator got lost, and you've been asked to resdend. Dunno if the fight's been run yet, but the discussion is somewhere in this thread.
T'Var

01-17-05, 10:00 AM
@T'Var:
Sorry for the mistake, but it dosn't change to outcome, because Sky can move backward in round 4, as you allready noted.

didnt figure it would, just one of those fyi for next time:)
Pittbull

01-17-05, 10:20 AM
didnt figure it would, just one of those fyi for next time:)

My bad English strikes back again:

What means "fyi"?
Jindl

01-17-05, 10:26 AM
My bad English strikes back again:

What means "fyi"?
FYI: For Your Information.

It's just a way of saying that this information isn't crucial but might be helpful, now or later.

-Jindl
Pittbull

01-17-05, 10:31 AM
@Jindl: Thanks, what would I do without you? :)
Ayatoshi

01-17-05, 10:34 AM
Zactor versus Kwerrock is up...

I thought Zactor had it when he critted the horse first hit but all i Hvae to say is...
Dwarf plus expeditious Retreat can out run a warhorse WOW!
Go Greataxe
Ayatoshi

01-17-05, 10:35 AM
Doing Flower versus Grakk now...
T'Var

01-17-05, 10:46 AM
Zactor versus Kwerrock is up...

I thought Zactor had it when he critted the horse first hit but all i Hvae to say is...
Dwarf plus expeditious Retreat can out run a warhorse WOW!
Go Greataxe

a pair of things,
1) he never cast expeditious Retreat so no boost of speed so he could have Never gotten to me
2) my tacitcs say to use the horse as cover(see ride skill). which is a free action and gives +4 ac bonus, which would have made every one of the dwarfs attacks miss
Ayatoshi

01-17-05, 10:46 AM
Where can I find how scent works?
on the SRD?
Ayatoshi

01-17-05, 10:47 AM
nm
Ayatoshi

01-17-05, 10:48 AM
alright I'll revise in a little while let me finish other fight...
T'Var

01-17-05, 10:49 AM
Where can I find how scent works?
on the SRD?
ya its in the SRD under....special abilitys i believe
Ayatoshi

01-17-05, 11:12 AM
Flower vs. Grakk is up that wolf is brutal...25 dmg from AoO's
does standing proke AoO if so you would have won perfect if not you took 14 dmg
T'Var

01-17-05, 11:29 AM
Flower vs. Grakk is up that wolf is brutal...25 dmg from AoO's
does standing proke AoO if so you would have won perfect if not you took 14 dmg

yes standing provokes
Jindl

01-17-05, 11:30 AM
Flower vs. Grakk is up that wolf is brutal...25 dmg from AoO's
does standing proke AoO if so you would have won perfect if not you took 14 dmg
Yes, standing provokes an AoO, which is taken before you stand (thus you are treated as prone for the AoO).

-Jindl
T'Var

01-17-05, 11:51 AM
@Ayatoshi

I know this might be annoying, but one more thing about the Zactor's fight

Round 10:
Zactor moves and shoots 14,19 +3=22 1success 31% miss

Enthropic shield only gives 20% miss chance, so that would be a hit. i mentioned it because at the end he was down to less than 7 hp, so a hit here could have finished Kwerrock
Ayatoshi

01-17-05, 11:54 AM
@Ayatoshi

I know this might be annoying, but one more thing about the Zactor's fight

Round 10:
Zactor moves and shoots 14,19 +3=22 1success 31% miss

Enthropic shield only gives 20% miss chance, so that would be a hit. i mentioned it because at the end he was down to less than 7 hp, so a hit here could have finished Kwerrock
that misschance was against invis because it hadn't been broken yet it was broken later that round... the delay made you Sheild end sooner negating the +4 ac from the mount sorry...
T'Var

01-17-05, 11:57 AM
that misschance was against invis because it hadn't been broken yet it was broken later that round... the delay made you Sheild end sooner negating the +4 ac from the mount sorry...

ahhh ok thank you!
Pittbull

01-17-05, 12:03 PM
@Poe the Great:

Sorry mate! It's now 6 pm (CET) and you haven't sent me any tactics. You have no default-tactic on your sheet, so I decided not to bring in your character, but your pony was brave enough to face to enemy. It was pretty close ;) , but don't be afraid it'll be ressurected. I choose this way, because tomorrow the boards are down and Kaigan would have no chance to fix his character.

The post is here (http://boards1.wizards.com/showpost.php?p=5252663&postcount=1177) !
Kaigan

01-17-05, 12:19 PM
Lora vs. Aureus is up. Really annoying fight to run, but whatever. Please check for mistakes.
Kaigan

01-17-05, 12:20 PM
@pittbull: so do I actually use 2 arrows?? :D
Pittbull

01-17-05, 12:21 PM
@pittbull: so do I actually use 2 arrows?? :D

Don't be so greedy! Yes, you used 2 arrows! :D
Ayatoshi

01-17-05, 12:40 PM
nothing major because I only would have won faster but... you forgot that psychic strike adds 1d8 of damage to a hit and lasts until it is used
Sindorin

01-17-05, 01:14 PM
I know there is a bit left to go before fights are late, but there are quite a few fights left outstanding. I am primarily concerned with OdinTheReaper's fight, as it is my friend's first one here in the coliseum. Has anyone heard from McTemplate?
Kaigan

01-17-05, 02:09 PM
Oh, okay, so psychic strike lasts until you actually hit the person. Alright. yeah, like you said, you'd only win faster.
Ayatoshi

01-17-05, 03:35 PM
I really doubted that my default tactics would have won but they did work... :D
Dalton Onestone

01-17-05, 04:27 PM
Thanks, Ayatoshi! Great improv tactics when the horse went down!

Expensive but worth it. Now I have to find ways for this character to win less expensively.


T'Var -- Kwerrock the Quiet is considering changing his name to Kwerrock the Speedy. :D
Ayatoshi

01-17-05, 05:09 PM
it was a little expensive but none the less definetly a come out of nowhere victory...
the fast little dwarf who could out run a horse
Huan

01-17-05, 09:41 PM
The revision of Naerdaloth vs the Elder (http://boards1.wizards.com/showpost.php?p=5234245) is up. I am working on the rewording for Keth vs the Buddha (a little ackward and confusing, I'm afraid). Expect it soon enough, though.
Naerdaloth

01-17-05, 09:51 PM
@LL: Just to nate, Farore's AC would have been 18 which makes a couple of his attacks miss, hence prolonging his life. However, since this is little more than delaying since Farore has no more real offense remaining, it wouldn't matter much if you choose to leave the fight as is, I think.

Unless of course I would be able to manually tell Courage where to go in order to get flank bonuses.. heh (that is if he still threatens?) Or trip. Or something remotely helpful.

edit: Nice story, Huan. :) The only part I don't like is the ending. ;) :P
Dalton Onestone

01-18-05, 01:20 AM
ithe fast little dwarf who could out run a horse

Not outrun -- just match him in speed. That's why light warhorses are better than heavy ones. :)

On the other hand, the one-shot kill of my light warhorse shows why heavy ones are better than light ones. :)

All's well that ends well, as Londo Mollari said on Babylon 5 after the ship bearing the secret of immortality was destroyed
Dalton Onestone

01-18-05, 01:32 AM
OK. I'm confused about AoOs again. Shouldn't Kwerrock have had AoOs when Zactor backed away to shoot? Since he wasn't taking 5 foot steps? And if not against Zactor, then at least against the horse?

Cancelling out that observation and more, couldn't Zactor have had the same benefits by having his horse take 5 ft steps instead of riding further away (which WOULD negte AoOs), and benefitted from Point Blank Shot to boot?

I haven't checked the die rolls, but I hope and trust that even if I'm right it doesn't change the match outcome in my disfavor.
Huan

01-18-05, 01:54 AM
Narration for the first fight of LGL, Keth'Arian'Kari vs The Buddha (http://boards1.wizards.com/showpost.php?p=5228021), is completed. I would have wished it longer, but I am satisfied with how it turned out. If I do say so myself, there are some philisophical points in there that I am sure everyone could probably understand and respect.
LLMadCow

01-18-05, 04:08 AM
@LL: Just to nate, Farore's AC would have been 18 which makes a couple of his attacks miss, hence prolonging his life. However, since this is little more than delaying since Farore has no more real offense remaining, it wouldn't matter much if you choose to leave the fight as is, I think.

Unless of course I would be able to manually tell Courage where to go in order to get flank bonuses.. heh (that is if he still threatens?) Or trip. Or something remotely helpful.

@Naerdaloth - I apologize for missing this. I did forget to account for the Mage Armor. My mistake. There was nothing that Courage could do unless Shivock chose to interact with him. If it is okay with you, I will leave the fight stand. Just looking at the numbers, Shivock was going to be hitting Farore 25% of the time, whereas Farore was only going to be hitting Shivock 5% of the time. So, at a 5:1 and the difference between 1d6 and 1d6 +3, Shivock has the clear advantage. Just for the sake of arguement, I rolled the next 10 rounds for you and the next 10 rounds, 20 hits, for Shivock, and the result was Farore landing 0 hits and Shivock landing 9 + 1 crit. So, the difference is clear. Good luck next time and I will have to remember to take more time to proof-read my fights.
Dalton Onestone

01-18-05, 05:51 AM
Ayatoshi,

Once the Doom succeeded in the Kwerrock-Zactor fight, Kwerrock had nothing memorized that made sense to save except spells that also existed on scrolls he was carrying. Do you think that it therefore would be appropriate to say that one of the spells you cast off of a scroll was instead cast from memory (such as the Entropic Shield he had memorized) or spontaneously (CLW), using up his last permitted spell slot (2 total, and Doom took 1). If so, the cost of his expendables goes down from 375 gp to 350 gp, still not cheap.

Or do you think that there were circumstances under which he would have used Command? Once he was unhorsed, I have trouble thinking of any such.
Ayatoshi

01-18-05, 08:55 PM
yeah I guess the spells could have been considered cast from memory and not scrolls
SnarkHunter

01-18-05, 10:07 PM
Narration for the first fight of LGL, Keth'Arian'Kari vs The Buddha (http://boards1.wizards.com/showpost.php?p=5228021), is completed. I would have wished it longer, but I am satisfied with how it turned out. If I do say so myself, there are some philisophical points in there that I am sure everyone could probably understand and respect.

A fine story Huan, and hopefully I'll get someone with a more reasonable touch AC next. That might make it last a bit longer :)