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| waywreth03-08-06, 03:14 PM | Deadline for this week is up in about 40 minutes. Post any comments or concerned for this weeks fights in this thread, be aware of the Rules of Gladius, be kind and courteous to your fellow posters, don't feed the pitlords, and above all, have fun! |
| Pittbull03-08-06, 04:04 PM | Deadline is up, no more editing..... |
| lonewolf03-08-06, 05:18 PM | O please god of pairing dice, give me better fights this week. :fight!: |
| CaptainStrong03-08-06, 06:09 PM | I posted a character yesterday, but I didn't PM anybody about my new character (i.e the Pitlords account). It's not on the list. Should I have PMed the Pitlords? |
| SauroGrenom03-08-06, 06:12 PM | I posted a character yesterday, but I didn't PM anybody about my new character (i.e the Pitlords account). It's not on the list. Should I have PMed the Pitlords? Couldn't hurt. Do it now and you may get into this week's parrings. If memory serves he usually does the higher ECL leagues first and works down the list. |
| Biota03-08-06, 06:35 PM | I posted a character yesterday, but I didn't PM anybody about my new character (i.e the Pitlords account). It's not on the list. Should I have PMed the Pitlords? Yeah, welcome to Gladius. There are definitely a lot of rules, especially when making your first character. From the Rules of Gladius: I'm done with my character. What now? Post him or her on the Gladiators thread and send the Pitlords a PM with the link to your character sheet. This will help ensure that your character does not get accidently overlooked and added to the Roster. Next, decide what you want him or her to do. If you want your character to fight in the Arena, edit the title line to read "Ready for <date>", where <date> is the next Wednesday. If you want him or her to go on a Quest, send a quest request to Pitlords. If you want to go on a Campaign, you have to apply to the Campaignlord. |
| Pitlords03-08-06, 06:39 PM | PAIRINGS DONE Credits will be assigned tomorow. Please note that those with an incorrect title line have not been paired and won't be paired. It uses up a lot of extra time to pair gladiators retroactively because it mixes up the whole pairings. There will be soon new secondary traits for structures thanks to SauroGrenom. The new values are balanced so that every guild has the same chances. There's also a little new rule, a good one: if your fight is extended, you can use the extended week for a Full Activity. PM me if you want to do that. That way you can regain the lost week. This week's Random Event was auto-picked to help the struggling EYE on their feet. Wands, Staffs, Crowns, Dorjes, and any other item with charges is now limited to your ECL like all expendables. You may pay 5° per CL above your ECL. Good luck everyone! Cat |
| CaptainStrong03-08-06, 06:42 PM | Yeah, welcome back to Gladius. There are definitely a lot of rules, especially when making your first character. Fixed. :P And I seem to have missed that part in the Rules. Well, I sent off a PM a while ago, so I can only hope. I can wait a week, though. |
| TaggIIV03-08-06, 06:51 PM | Ah.. hope it's not too late, I had my character (http://boards1.wizards.com/showpost.php?p=5546453&postcount=219) readied for this week, but probably due to the fact the URL on his name is wrong in the Characters post (not sure if this was my fault if I PMd it wrong) he wasn't paired. If there's anyone else who is in a similar situation who wouldn't mind fighting this week, could I get in one? |
| lonewolf03-08-06, 06:52 PM | Karen Douglas hasnt been paired although her title line is abolutely correct as far as I can tell. :confused: |
| Argaud03-08-06, 06:53 PM | Korinel (Argaud) vs. Dronnar Darkjof (DSugui) : DSugui Flashback! :) This battle took place last week already. And... DSugui would be pitlording a fight with one of his characters... and Korinel is level 4 (although I am not surprised you guys missed that, since the fight that gave him the 4th level was edited 2 hours before the deadline). Anyway, probably this needs to be corrected :) |
| Luni03-08-06, 06:57 PM | @Cat: Talari's scrolls come out to 2500 gp approximately. :) |
| Snommelp03-08-06, 06:58 PM | Logan wasn't put on the roster, which is probably my fault (I think I forgot to put the date down), but it's a really easy fix since he's going to be on an MQ this week; no shuffling of pairings. |
| Dracazar03-08-06, 06:59 PM | There's also a little new rule, a good one: if your fight is extended, you can use the extended week for a Full Activity. PM me if you want to do that. That way you can regain the lost week. This apply also to extended quest? Example: I have a character on Week4 of a 3 weeks quest. May I use this week for a Full Activity? Even a Free Activity? Thanks |
| Turin03-08-06, 07:00 PM | Ivangar was paired in the wrong league... he made ECL6 after last week's fight. I've PM'd Pitlords to this effect. |
| waywreth03-08-06, 07:35 PM | Gray (Gonbow) & Sir Alboreth (Zevox) miniquest to assist the TAO: Waywreth [Miniquest] - Your mini-quest will be up either late tonight or early tomorrow. It will be ECL4 unless I hear otherwise. QL Waywreth: (none) Ignatius (Erithmu) also joins the TAO superquest [Week 1] - Your quest is up, am holding off on making the first post until I get approval from Scriblords about my submission. If I don't see it, I'll post tomorrow and we can get going. The encounters are pretty straightforward anyway. |
| Snommelp03-08-06, 07:40 PM | Finrod and Eraca's Miniquest is up here (http://boards1.wizards.com/showthread.php?t=600924). Grik's tactics will be sent later tonight; I've got a paper to write for my religion class first. |
| NiQil03-08-06, 07:45 PM | @ Gonbow: Tactics for Pestilence sent via PM. |
| Erithmu03-08-06, 07:46 PM | @Lonewolf: Tactics for Sola for a brutal FFA sent via PM ... Good luck man. @waywreth: If you want to post from the start of the TAO warehouse I have places Ignatius there and we can move him over while you are waiting. Additionally I have an Email comming your way regarding some stuff for you to be aware of. |
| Turin03-08-06, 08:00 PM | Danidus (Vecnoran) & Daisy (DSugui) vs. KazzzAHM (Pittbull) & Hexacious (Turin) : DSugui [Team] also is messsed up... DSugui's got a character in the fight, so he can't Pitlord it. |
| Iced03-08-06, 10:02 PM | Gatekeeper's tactics and Anixx's tactics sent to Zevox and Pittbull. @Cat - I can take a fight this week if there's need. |
| Skojar03-08-06, 10:06 PM | Please note that those with an incorrect title line have not been paired and won't be paired. It uses up a lot of extra time to pair gladiators retroactively because it mixes up the whole pairings. Please note that I have no idea what you're talking about. Where can I find out how my second gladiator, who has had the same identical title line format ever since I started, are incorrect, while my third, which uses the same format, is correct. |
| lonewolf03-08-06, 10:41 PM | Tactics for Samuel are away. |
| Zevox03-08-06, 10:46 PM | @ Snommelp - ETA for Aldyrr's tactics is tomorrow afternoon (presuming the pairings switching due ot DSugui pitlording his own fights doesn't alter Aldyrr's fight of course). @ Iced - Tactics for Anixx recieved, thank you. @ Maraxus - As long as I get Zassl's tactics before the deadline the fight should be up Friday or Saturday. Zevox |
| Snommelp03-08-06, 11:04 PM | Grik's tactics for the boxing match against Galagith have been sent. |
| MysticMonk200503-08-06, 11:27 PM | @Snommelp: Tactics for Tueor Sent via PM. |
| Snommelp03-08-06, 11:33 PM | @Snommelp: Tactics for Tueor Sent via PM. Got 'em. |
| Macbrea03-08-06, 11:51 PM | All tactics sent! |
| Iced03-08-06, 11:58 PM | @SauroGrenom - quest thread is up but i'm working on intro. Essay to write tonight so if it's not done tonight expect it tomorrow around noon. |
| Sindorin03-09-06, 12:16 AM | Tactics for Va'ria sent to... oh wait she's crafting never mind. |
| MindWandererB03-09-06, 01:35 AM | @nickbeat and DTFarstar: tactics for Sunstroke and Aerryl, respectively, have been PM'ed. @Mitza and Pitbull: Apparently I am taking up the reins on your holdover. The setup is here and I will be running it shortly. As I understand it, a re-run is a re-run, and I start over from the beginning despite the presence of rounds 1-9. I'll also be using my interpretation of the tactics, which differ slightly from Stormwind's. |
| Pittbull03-09-06, 04:20 AM | @nickbeat and DTFarstar: tactics for Sunstroke and Aerryl, respectively, have been PM'ed. @Mitza and Pitbull: Apparently I am taking up the reins on your holdover. The setup is here and I will be running it shortly. As I understand it, a re-run is a re-run, and I start over from the beginning despite the presence of rounds 1-9. I'll also be using my interpretation of the tactics, which differ slightly from Stormwind's. No problem, there won't be any moaning after the fight. |
| Iced03-09-06, 05:17 AM | Well it's 2:20 my time and I just finished my English essay. Intro's up on my quest for SauroGrenom. Huan and Snommelp's quests have been brought up to date and tactics have been sent. I'll try and catch some z's, practice starts at 5:00. :surrender night all, ~Iced |
| Pittbull03-09-06, 06:51 AM | @Iced: Good night, sleep well! I got your tactic, thank you. @Snommelp: Received your's as well. ------------ KazzzAHM's tactic has been sent to Turin via PM, to adjust his. He'll sends to pack to our Pitlord. Barthleby's tactic has been sent to King Uther via E-Mail. |
| Azarias03-09-06, 07:03 AM | @ Snommelp: tactics for Marvell vs Jimmy PMed. |
| Begferdeth03-09-06, 08:22 AM | Hmm... Chili's opponent, Ivangar, seems to be an ECL 6 hiding in the ECL 5 league. This is gonna be extra tough. |
| Dracazar03-09-06, 08:24 AM | @TaggIIV: Drac's tactic sent @MysticMonk2005: Cher's tactic sent @Lonewolf: Shaz's tactic sent @Sindorin: Uilo is questing on Week 4 of 3 |
| Dracazar03-09-06, 08:26 AM | I'll inform you that I can pitlord a fight this week if someone is in need |
| Vathelokai03-09-06, 08:46 AM | Tactics for Saffron vs. Frost sent to SauroGrenom. Tactics for Denshi vs. Kara the Ghost sent to Macbrea. Tactics for Samuel recieved; waiting on Balbanes. |
| Pitlords03-09-06, 09:05 AM | Little Daisy (DSugui) vs. Elzar the Amiable (Biota) : Snommelp Jimmy (funnymanmike) vs. Marvell Imago (Azarias) : DSugui Merchea (Skojar) vs. Dronnar Darkjof (DSugui): Gonbow Ivangar the Exile (Turin) vs. Karen Douglas (Lonewolf) : Iced Danidus (Vecnoran) & Seyan'du (TaggIV) vs. KazzzAHM (Pittbull) & Hexacious (Turin) : DSugui [Team] Logan Granger (Snommelp) miniquests to hunt bandits : Myrridin [Miniquest] Kracknol (SauroGrenom) vs Unknown Monster : Iced [Monster] Ch'ch'ili (Begferdeth) vs. Unknown Monster : Biota [Monster] Korinel (Argaud) vs Unknown Monster : Caterane [Monster] should be good now. please note that I have no idea what you're talking about. Where can I find out how my second gladiator, who has had the same identical title line format ever since I started, are incorrect, while my third, which uses the same format, is correct. These are your title lines: Olive Orladine: Inactive Merchea Hagglus: Ready for March 8 [PAIRED] Tsiuzues Pettles: Full Activity: training Bert and Ernie to 'heel' Weiniete Windershins: Inactive The only character that was set ready for this wednesday has been paired. |
| waywreth03-09-06, 09:10 AM | @Gonbow & Zevox - Miniquest "Hidden Passage" (http://boards1.wizards.com/showthread.php?t=601197) is up and ready for your posts. @Erithmu - Quest "The Devil is in the Details" (http://boards1.wizards.com/showthread.php?t=600817) is up and ready for your posts. @Skojar - Tactics for Gaston Dar'ath sent via PM @DTFarstar - Tactics for Loquan Dar'ath sent via PM |
| Pittbull03-09-06, 09:31 AM | I changed KazzAHM's tactic from Daisy to Seyandu and sent via PM to Turin. |
| Pitlords03-09-06, 10:17 AM | Credit Changes: +5: Sauro, Iced +4: DSugui, Kaigan +3: Huan, Vathelokai, Myrridin +2: Uther, Lonewolf, Skojar, Caterane, Waywreth, Luni +1: Abyssalstalker, Biota, DTF, Erithmu, Macbrea, Mindwanderer, Mysticmonk, Nickbeat, Pittbull, Snommelp, Tagg, Turin +0: Sindorin, Gonbow, Zevox, NiQil -1: Kedi, Soullord, Magister -4: Dracazar |
| Myrridin03-09-06, 10:57 AM | The Miniquest Hunting the Bandits (http://boards1.wizards.com/showthread.php?t=601235) is up now for Logan Granger (Snommelp). |
| King Uther03-09-06, 01:12 PM | All tactics sent! |
| DSugui03-09-06, 01:20 PM | @Gonbow Tactics for Dronnar Darjkjof sent by e mail. @Snommelp: Tactics for Little Daisy sent by PM. @Kaigan: Tactics for Valek Usher sent by e mail. |
| Book503-09-06, 01:27 PM | DSugi: Ba'al Tactics Sent @Anyone - Am I blind, or are we still in the SOE? Did Tan get Paired? Doen't look like it |
| Sindorin03-09-06, 01:30 PM | We're not in the state of emergency anymore. However, we're still only having one free character, and if your subject line is not completely correct you will not be paired. I'm not quite sure what Tan's is right now or what is correct but I will go with instincts and tell you that if you want to ready for a fight you should say: Ready 8 March 2006, Guarding or whatever free action you wish to have. |
| Mal-203-09-06, 01:37 PM | @Anyone - Am I blind, or are we still in the SOE? Did Tan get Paired? Doen't look like it I think the problem is your subject line: "ready 1/7 (ECL +/- 1) Defending Home" This week's pairing were done on March 8th (which would be some variation on 3/8/2006, depending on your continent of origin, not 1/7). |
| NiQil03-09-06, 02:02 PM | We're not in the state of emergency anymore. However, we're still only having one free character, and if your subject line is not completely correct you will not be paired. I'm not quite sure what Tan's is right now or what is correct but I will go with instincts and tell you that if you want to ready for a fight you should say: Ready 8 March 2006, Guarding or whatever free action you wish to have. This is incorrect. Two free characters are allowed. I've had two free characters every week except the two weeks that were under SoE. |
| Sindorin03-09-06, 02:07 PM | Ah, cool then. I guess I just misunderstood. Thanks. |
| Luni03-09-06, 04:12 PM | @Macbrea: Kara's tactics sent at least once.... @King Uther: Losing tactics for Imperi Sent |
| MysticMonk200503-09-06, 04:18 PM | @Abyssal Stalker & Dracazar: Tactics recieved. |
| Zevox03-09-06, 04:22 PM | @ Snommelp - Aldyrr's tactics sent. Lets see if the magic cleric can overcome the grappling monk cleric. :cool: @ Maraxus - Tactics for Zassl received, thank you. Zevox |
| bgt03-09-06, 04:30 PM | @Skojar: Tactics for Neider sent. @Pitlords: Theoricus hasn't been paired since the SoE. Please fix this next week. |
| Biota03-09-06, 04:47 PM | @Skojar: Tactics for Neider sent. @Pitlords: Theoricus hasn't been paired since the SoE. Please fix this next week. Looks like Theoricus is in prison. In the roster he is listed as # [P] Theoricus (bgt) [Power: 677 (677); 1 won, 4 lost] [Failure] the [P] means he is in prison. See the Roll Call post made weekly in the prison thread to find out why. Prisonlords links the post(s) describing violations in there. Biota |
| Vecnoran03-09-06, 05:40 PM | @DSugai tactics for Danidus sent via PM |
| lonewolf03-09-06, 06:29 PM | All tactics sent and all tactics recieved. I will start the fight tomorrow. |
| Snommelp03-09-06, 06:41 PM | Five sets of tactics received... still waiting on Elzar. |
| Iced03-09-06, 06:42 PM | All tactics sent and all tactics recieved. I will start the fight tomorrow. @Lonewolf - I haven't received Karen's tactics please re-send via PM. ~Iced |
| Iced03-09-06, 06:44 PM | Can someone generate a random monster for Kracknol's fight and PM it to me? I don't have a 3.5 DM's Guide. thanks, ~Iced |
| lonewolf03-09-06, 06:50 PM | @Lonewolf - I haven't received Karen's tactics please re-send via PM. ~Iced done |
| lonewolf03-09-06, 06:52 PM | Can someone generate a random monster for Kracknol's fight and PM it to me? I don't have a 3.5 DM's Guide. thanks, ~Iced done |
| Biota03-09-06, 07:14 PM | Five sets of tactics received... still waiting on Elzar. I had already sent my tactics to Gonbow for my fight vs. Merchea, lucky I saw this, I didn't realize I had gotten a new fight. Snommelp I'll get them to you asap. edit: tactics sent, i liked my chances in my other matchup better, oh well. Biota |
| Ariel2303-09-06, 09:32 PM | @Dsugui - Tactics for Riana sent (sorry) @Turin - Tactics for Evaine sent @Anaconda - Posted several violations in the prison. Please don't take it personally, this always happens to new characters and it's most efficient to let opponents find the niggling details. It's always best to get them cleaned up before the higher leagues. @King Uther - I found a couple things which were almost all Ride-related IIRC. They will appear in my tactics, if not the prison. I like your character concept, you are a prince among dwarves (the dark kind). |
| Book503-09-06, 10:04 PM | I think the problem is your subject line: "ready 1/7 (ECL +/- 1) Defending Home" Thats gotta be it. 8+7 = 15 still? Ready - March 15 - Guarding ok? |
| DSugui03-09-06, 10:12 PM | @Book5 - Tactics for Ba'al received @Ariel23 - Tactics for Riana received (although in the title it says Evaine...) @Vecnoran - Tactics for Danidus received. |
| Begferdeth03-09-06, 10:35 PM | @TaggIIV: Tactics sent! @Drac: Your goin down! :D |
| Biota03-09-06, 10:54 PM | My tactics have been sent. @Begferdeth the description of the unknown monster for Ch'ch'ili's fight has been PM'd to you |
| Sunwolf03-09-06, 11:13 PM | @Kaigan tactics for Leif sent by PM @Huan tactics for Telveran sent by PM |
| Ariel2303-09-06, 11:21 PM | @Ariel23 - Tactics for Riana received (although in the title it says Evaine...) Why...so it does. I checked, though, and those are definitely the right tactics. Even though you will probably hate my tactics, originally this character was going to use a mithral tower shield and take cover constantly while moving really fast. At some point I realized how annoying that would be (maybe after I ran my first fight :D ). Of course both of us can melee, but I'd hate to imagine running a tower v. tower shield fight. |
| Vathelokai03-10-06, 12:23 AM | @Elder or other knowledgable person - I'm pitlording for Balbanes this week, and I am confused on the ally rules. Balbanes [ecl9] has a young white dragon as a diplomacy ally. The dragon has a CR of 4, but has an ECL of 12. Can Balbanes bring the wyrm? |
| MindWandererB03-10-06, 12:56 AM | @Elder or other knowledgable person - I'm pitlording for Balbanes this week, and I am confused on the ally rules. Balbanes [ecl9] has a young white dragon as a diplomacy ally. The dragon has a CR of 4, but has an ECL of 12. Can Balbanes bring the wyrm?I can actually answer that. You only use CR if the ally's LA is listed as "-". That means that in this case, you use ECL, and he can't bring the dragon. |
| King Uther03-10-06, 01:03 AM | @My gladiators All fights will be done Saturday night, Central Time. @Vathelokai Under Diplomacy Allies in the Rules it says always use the CR. So I can bring him. @Ariel23 It happens. I'll edit it after the fight, whatever it is. |
| Vathelokai03-10-06, 01:11 AM | The following is a list of legal Diplomacy allies, as well as the diplomacy bonus needed. These allies always use their CR to determine the maxCA.Well here we go. I'll have to get a hold of lonewolf for a tactics revision, then I'll get this fight started. |
| MindWandererB03-10-06, 01:34 AM | The following is a list of legal Diplomacy allies, as well as the diplomacy bonus needed. These allies always use their CR to determine the maxCA. If all of your Allies have an ECL (ECL=LA+HD), then you should simply add their ECLs together. The result must be at least 2 less than your own ECL. Aaand, we have a rules conflict. These two rules directly contradict each other. I'm PMing Pitlords to address this. Vath, you may want to give Cat a chance to give you a ruling. In other news, the 3-week old fight between Sliver Firebug and Boraxx the pig-rider is finally up. The results were predictable. The lesson my players learned is, don't assume your opponent will use an ability that you think is obvious. The lesson I learned is, I hate invisible pet-droppers. |
| Biota03-10-06, 03:09 AM | @Elder or other knowledgable person - I'm pitlording for Balbanes this week, and I am confused on the ally rules. Balbanes [ecl9] has a young white dragon as a diplomacy ally. The dragon has a CR of 4, but has an ECL of 12. Can Balbanes bring the wyrm? He probably can, from the diplomacy allies section: The following is a list of legal Diplomacy allies, as well as the diplomacy bonus needed. These allies always use their CR to determine the maxCA. Please read FAQ: Allies I on requirements to obtain such an ally. Note that this list does not include advanced versions which are also available. ... ... +19 DIP: White Dragon, young (medium dragon) [CR 4] So it is a CR 4 ally. I can't say how the various formulas (CA = sum(Aecli+Acri)) and maximum CA and such work out, but reading through the formulas I think he can bring the dragon. Biota |
| Pittbull03-10-06, 03:30 AM | In other news, the 3-week old fight between Sliver Firebug and Boraxx the pig-rider is finally up. The results were predictable. The lesson my players learned is, don't assume your opponent will use an ability that you think is obvious. The lesson I learned is, I hate invisible pet-droppers. Thanks for running the fight! It was a pretty anoying one, I guess. No issues from my side. |
| bgt03-10-06, 06:51 AM | Looks like Theoricus is in prison. In the roster he is listed as # [P] Theoricus (bgt) [Power: 677 (677); 1 won, 4 lost] [Failure] the [P] means he is in prison. See the Roll Call post made weekly in the prison thread to find out why. Prisonlords links the post(s) describing violations in there. Biota Ah, thanks for clearing that up. |
| Ravashack03-10-06, 08:04 AM | Emailed Perius's tactics to King Uther. |
| lonewolf03-10-06, 08:40 AM | He probably can, from the diplomacy allies section: So it is a CR 4 ally. I can't say how the various formulas (CA = sum(Aecli+Acri)) and maximum CA and such work out, but reading through the formulas I think he can bring the dragon. Biota This makes absolutely no sense. Lets say Lord Frost our dear 6HD, ECL9 White Dragon Gladiator could get the same ally and take a 9HD, ECL12White Dragon with him into the arena. Anyone else thinking that isnt how its supposed to work? |
| Mal-203-10-06, 08:49 AM | @Kaigan: Tactics for Donak will be in before the deadline. Sorry they're not early, but things have been hectic. |
| Macbrea03-10-06, 08:50 AM | ooooo, :: Blinks eyes innocently :: Well, in truth. Frost is only a CR 3... possibly a CR 4 if you consider he has an elite statistics array. |
| waywreth03-10-06, 08:51 AM | This makes absolutely no sense. Lets say Lord Frost our dear 6HD, ECL9 White Dragon Gladiator could get the same ally and take a 9HD, ECL12White Dragon with him into the arena. Anyone else thinking that isnt how its supposed to work? Although extreme, your example is correct. Lord Frost could do exactly that if he had the necessary diplomacy skill. Of course he could take a heavy warhorse in instead of the 9HD, CR4 white dragon... which just goes to show the CR on dragons is lower than it probably should be. |
| Argaud03-10-06, 09:15 AM | Although extreme, your example is correct. Lord Frost could do exactly that if he had the necessary diplomacy skill. Of course he could take a heavy warhorse in instead of the 9HD, CR4 white dragon... which just goes to show the CR on dragons is lower than it probably should be. If it is broken, it needs fixing. In the context of the CoCo the disparity between ECL and CR is becoming pretty obvious even for a newbie like me, and probably should be addressed in its own thread. |
| Myrridin03-10-06, 09:33 AM | Yeah. I mean, take a look at what Balbanes was able to bring along on the ECL 8 miniquest I ran last week. 1 9HD young white dragon, 1 9HD Griffon, and 2 elite array chokers, I believe each with 10HD, though I'd have to go back to get the exact number. Challenging that, and not completely outclassing Balbanes himself would've been nearly impossible. |
| Argaud03-10-06, 09:44 AM | Yeah. I mean, take a look at what Balbanes was able to bring along on the ECL 8 miniquest I ran last week. 1 9HD young white dragon, 1 9HD Griffon, and 2 elite array chokers, I believe each with 10HD, though I'd have to go back to get the exact number. Challenging that, and not completely outclassing Balbanes himself would've been nearly impossible. The main offender are the character vs. monster fights. I am going to check them out, but I will be surprised if the characters win 1 in 4 of those. Many of the monsters are pretty much invincible for most characters of their ECL, and the situation is made worse because most often the character has no idea of what he or she is facing. I have a monster fight this week (which, by the way, 7 hours to tactics deadline, I still have no idea of the size, shape of number of monsters Korinel has to face) and for what I see in the CR4 encounter tables, a fair number of the battles are impossible (locust swarm, anyone?) and others ridiculously hard (wereboar? Young white dragon (stronger than level 9 leaguer Lord Frost)?). And I suspect things get worse the higher the level :( |
| waywreth03-10-06, 09:49 AM | Yeah. I mean, take a look at what Balbanes was able to bring along on the ECL 8 miniquest I ran last week. 1 9HD young white dragon, 1 9HD Griffon, and 2 elite array chokers, I believe each with 10HD, though I'd have to go back to get the exact number. Challenging that, and not completely outclassing Balbanes himself would've been nearly impossible. Let's look at this... (and I'm not picking on Balbanes either, just using him because he's a good example). Dragon - CR4 Griffon - CR4 Choker - CR5 Choker - CR5 Elemental - CR5 Your Ally's CR must be 4 lower than your ECL. This means at 9th level he could've brought in any ONE of those allies. Not all of them. EDIT: See Zevox's post below for better math than mine. |
| Myrridin03-10-06, 10:03 AM | The main offender are the character vs. monster fights. I am going to check them out, but I will be surprised if the characters win 1 in 4 of those. Many of the monsters are pretty much invincible for most characters of their ECL, and the situation is made worse because most often the character has no idea of what he or she is facing. I have a monster fight this week (which, by the way, 7 hours to tactics deadline, I still have no idea of the size, shape of number of monsters Korinel has to face) and for what I see in the CR4 encounter tables, a fair number of the battles are impossible (locust swarm, anyone?) and others ridiculously hard (wereboar? Young white dragon (stronger than level 9 leaguer Lord Frost)?). And I suspect things get worse the higher the level :( That's because the CR is balanced against a party of people, not just 1 gladiator. Sure, a party of 4th level characters might be able to take out a young white dragon. It'd be a tough fight, I'd assume, but not impossible. 1 gladiator against one. Well, if the dragon is run intelligently, and you're not a master at tactics...you're screwed. Even more so because you don't know what you're going to be fighting. |
| Zevox03-10-06, 10:08 AM | Actually, as an ECL9 character Balbanes can bring in up to 7 CA (Coefficient of Allies) of allies, provided they meet the requirement of his ECL-2 for ECL allies or his ECL-4 for CR allies. So the penalty for bringing in one of the CR4 allies is (4/7)*25=14.28%, or for the CR5 allies (5/7)*25=17.85%. As Waywreth said, if those Chokers are actually CR6 due to Elite Array, he cannot bring them in due to thier not meeting the requirement of being 4 less CR than his ECL, and until ECL10 he cannot bring more than one CR4 or 5 ally in since he is limited to 7 CA of allies at ECL9. Edit: Having looked it up, it seems CR5 is correct for the Chokers. As Aberrations they advance 1 CR per 4 HD added. Each is 12HD, and a basic Choker is 3 HD, so Balbanes added 9 HD to them, giving them +2CR from the base of 2, putting them at 4. Add one more for Elite Array and you end up with a CR of 5. Zevox |
| Myrridin03-10-06, 10:20 AM | Still, he brought all 4 allies with on the MQ. By that calculation, he should've only been able to bring 1 of the allies with him, as any combination there would make his Ally Coefficient go above 7. Well, that would've changed things a LOT in the challenge of that Miniquest, wouldn't it have? |
| Zevox03-10-06, 10:25 AM | Still, he brought all 4 allies with on the MQ. By that calculation, he should've only been able to bring 1 of the allies with him, as any combination there would make his Ally Coefficient go above 7. Correct. Well, that would've changed things a LOT in the challenge of that Miniquest, wouldn't it have? Probably. A pity no one caught this last week. I don't know if the quest can be made retroactively invalid... Zevox |
| waywreth03-10-06, 10:37 AM | Edit: Having looked it up, it seems CR5 is correct for the Chokers. As Aberrations they advance 1 CR per 4 HD added. Each is 12HD, and a basic Choker is 3 HD, so Balbanes added 9 HD to them, giving them +2CR from the base of 2, putting them at 4. Add one more for Elite Array and you end up with a CR of 5. Zevox Did (or do - I'm not to familiar with advancing monsters) you apply the "Size increased to Large or larger = +1 to CR"? |
| Zevox03-10-06, 10:44 AM | Did (or do - I'm not to familiar with advancing monsters) you apply the "Size increased to Large or larger = +1 to CR"? No, but thats because they only increase size from small to medium, not to large. So no CR increase from the size increase I'm afraid. Zevox |
| Turin03-10-06, 10:54 AM | @ Iced: Tactics for Ivangar vs Karen sent... that pegasus is going to make this fight a :censored:! @ DSugui: finishing up tactics for the team fight for Danidus (Vecnoran) & Seyan'du (TaggIV) vs. KazzzAHM (Pittbull) & Hexacious (Turin) shortly. Edit: All tactics sent! |
| lonewolf03-10-06, 11:14 AM | @ Iced: Tactics for Ivangar vs Karen sent... that pegasus is going to make this fight a :censored:! As I found out last week, Karen is not allowed to bring the pegasus to the arena until she gains another level. :rolleyes: |
| King Uther03-10-06, 11:22 AM | As far as MQs, Quests and Campaigns go, I've always allowed players to bring any number of allies with them. It allows players to have some fun with it. The greatest example of this was for Ceres, who used a pegasus at EL7 in my campaign. Perfectly acceptable. My CR4 dragon has base stats of 11 and 10 and no equipment. In a duel Lord Frost would beat my dragon's tail. Or at least he should. However, if Cat changed his mind I'd accept that as well. |
| Turin03-10-06, 11:25 AM | As I found out last week, Karen is not allowed to bring the pegasus to the arena until she gains another level. :rolleyes:Uh... okay... apparently I'm mis-reading the allies rules or something (I'll check last week's FotW thread for an explanation). But okay, I've adjusted my tactics accordingly. Thanks lonewolf, that'll save Iced some grief I'm sure. |
| Argaud03-10-06, 11:30 AM | ooooo, :: Blinks eyes innocently :: Well, in truth. Frost is only a CR 3... possibly a CR 4 if you consider he has an elite statistics array. He has a better than elite array, plus the gear of a level 9 character. If he was to show up as an enemy in a tabletop game, I'd say he is at least CR5, he is a tough little lizard :) But I doubt there are many ECL5 characters able to fight him alone, even in CoCo. Maybe a wizard optimized with fire spells, some cold protection and very high touch AC could do it. It would have to be a very specialized build, though. |
| Myrridin03-10-06, 11:35 AM | As far as MQs, Quests and Campaigns go, I've always allowed players to bring any number of allies with them. It allows players to have some fun with it. The greatest example of this was for Ceres, who used a pegasus at EL7 in my campaign. Perfectly acceptable. My CR4 dragon has base stats of 11 and 10 and no equipment. In a duel Lord Frost would beat my dragon's tail. Or at least he should. However, if Cat changed his mind I'd accept that as well. I guess...it's just that having that many allies makes a joke of just about any opponent in the correct ECL range. Now maybe an Efreeti wasn't the best choice for a monster to fight against...but come on. 2 (effective) rounds of Manyshots by the chokers, in 1 round, plus a breath weapon from the white dragon, plus a charging, grapple attempt by the griffon? I'll have to look over ECL 8 monsters again, and see if I could come up with something to survive that. |
| Luni03-10-06, 12:07 PM | I guess...it's just that having that many allies makes a joke of just about any opponent in the correct ECL range. Now maybe an Efreeti wasn't the best choice for a monster to fight against...but come on. 2 (effective) rounds of Manyshots by the chokers, in 1 round, plus a breath weapon from the white dragon, plus a charging, grapple attempt by the griffon? I'll have to look over ECL 8 monsters again, and see if I could come up with something to survive that. Well, it was a full compliment of allies. He should only be allowed to bring one in his menagarie, not all of them anyways. A Flesh Golem could of survived a little longer. Adamantine DR helps a little. Oozes makes archery pointless. Gorgon with its breath attack. Sometimes, making a small map and having the gladiator and allies crowd it out makes all the differnce. |
| Mal-203-10-06, 12:11 PM | I guess...it's just that having that many allies makes a joke of just about any opponent in the correct ECL range. Now maybe an Efreeti wasn't the best choice for a monster to fight against...but come on. 2 (effective) rounds of Manyshots by the chokers, in 1 round, plus a breath weapon from the white dragon, plus a charging, grapple attempt by the griffon? I'll have to look over ECL 8 monsters again, and see if I could come up with something to survive that. Well, if he's bringing a horde, maybe a horde of badguys is the answer. 16 goblin Adept 3s, for instance, is a EL 8 encounter. |
| Argaud03-10-06, 12:38 PM | Well, it was a full compliment of allies. He should only be allowed to bring one in his menagarie, not all of them anyways. A Flesh Golem could of survived a little longer. Adamantine DR helps a little. Oozes makes archery pointless. Gorgon with its breath attack. Sometimes, making a small map and having the gladiator and allies crowd it out makes all the differnce. A Hellwasp Swarm might have been able to kill half of Balbanes horde. You have to be a sadistic DM to use that, too :D |
| Argaud03-10-06, 02:40 PM | @Caterane - Tactics for Korinel's battle with the oversized vermin have been sent :D Now all I need is a bit more of luck... |
| Mal-203-10-06, 02:56 PM | @Kaigan Donak's tactics sent via PM. |
| Kaigan03-10-06, 03:30 PM | @All: I'm really sorry, my tactics will be sent in a few hours. This week has been hell week. Sleeping at 4:30 am getting up for my 8:00 am class. In short. Chem sucks, comp sci sucks, and all labs and assignments associated with them suck./rant. anywho, now that I have "fully recovered" I will send tactics today. Again my apologies. Kaigan |
| Usurpator03-10-06, 03:34 PM | @Abyssal Stalker & Skojar: Tactics for Aramur and Kitaya sent. |
| Caterane03-10-06, 04:18 PM | Korinel vs 2 large vermin with many legs. |
| TaggIIV03-10-06, 05:20 PM | Tactics sent to DSugui Tactics recieved from Drac and Begferdeth. I will probably run the fight tomorrow. |
| Argaud03-10-06, 05:26 PM | Korinel vs 2 large vermin with many legs. Corrected the cost of the tattoos and potions. Although for what I have seen most players have not paid the costs of tattoos with personal powers at doble normal value (and they are the most useful - lots of characters have Vigor tattoos). Mind you, it seems silly that potions of enlarge person need mandatorily to be purchased at level 5, instead of 1. |
| Gonbow03-10-06, 05:59 PM | Korinel vs 2 large vermin with many legs. Projectiles deal damage based on the size of the weapon they are launched from. Thus, enlarged bows do more damage, wheras enlarged throwing axes does not. Fair? No. Useful? Yes. Diminutized throwers do very silly amounts of damage, as do huge archers. Different strokes for different folks. |
| DSugui03-10-06, 07:04 PM | Ba'al of the Grave (Book5) vs. Th'Kali (CaptainStrong) is up HERE I've never seen an unfinished character paired before... |
| Ravashack03-10-06, 07:25 PM | Corrected the cost of the tattoos and potions. Although for what I have seen most players have not paid the costs of tattoos with personal powers at doble normal value (and they are the most useful - lots of characters have Vigor tattoos). Mind you, it seems silly that potions of enlarge person need mandatorily to be purchased at level 5, instead of 1. All that means is that people are giving you free credits. Report them! :) |
| DSugui03-11-06, 12:14 AM | Raw (Anaconda) vs. Riana Dreambinder (Ariel23) is up HERE. Most annoying fight I've run so far... |
| King Uther03-11-06, 01:23 AM | @my gladiators I previously said both fights would be up Saturday. One of my co-workers(on my last week there of all timing), had a major surgery and I am working an ugly 18-hour shift tomorrow. Look for the Duel to be up Sunday, and at the latest both fights will be done on Tuesday. @Pittbull & Kaigan Still waiting on tactics. Don't feel you have to rush. You have all day tomorrow and at the last half of Sunday. |
| Ariel2303-11-06, 01:42 AM | @dsugui Meh, sorry. (Really.) Thanks for running. I knew that would be boring but it would have been stupid to melee on my part. You are completely right about the encumbrance, I've read that 20 times and it must not go into long term memory. That section is really clear, too. @Anaconda I figure you are saving for a mwk large mighty bow, but a large sling would cost 0 gp (2 sp for ammunition) and do 1d6+4. Even if you are saving for something better, that's pretty hard to pass up. You also might consider a Tanglefoot Bag or 5. I know they are expensive, but 6 of them costs the same as Invis/Bull's Str. [Or put ranks in Craft (Alchemy) :) ] If you goo your opponent, then trip them, then disarm their slashing weapons, they won't be able to get up (other than through STR). The other (popular) option is a Tattoo of Skate for 100 gp. |
| Pittbull03-11-06, 03:40 AM | @my gladiators I previously said both fights would be up Saturday. One of my co-workers(on my last week there of all timing), had a major surgery and I am working an ugly 18-hour shift tomorrow. Look for the Duel to be up Sunday, and at the latest both fights will be done on Tuesday. @Pittbull & Kaigan Still waiting on tactics. Don't feel you have to rush. You have all day tomorrow and at the last half of Sunday. Barthleby's tactic has been sent to King Uther via E-Mail. It's on page 2, I sent it to via E-Mail, because your link in the pitlord-list directed me. I'll send it to you via PM too, just to be save. EDIT: Tactic has been sent via PM. |
| Pittbull03-11-06, 03:56 AM | Galagith vs Grik (http://boards1.wizards.com/showpost.php?p=8659364&postcount=356) is finsihed. |
| NiQil03-11-06, 04:28 AM | Galagith vs Grik (http://boards1.wizards.com/showpost.php?p=8659364&postcount=356) is finsihed. @ Pittbull: You will need to adjust the fight some. In round 3, Galagith misses a trip attempt. Either Grik gets a free attempt to trip Galagith there, or Galagith has to drop his guisarme to avoid that return trip attempt. If the guisarme is dropped, this seriously alters the fight. If the trip is successful, this also could alter the fight. In round 5, Grik is prone, and attempts to stand, causing an AoO. Galagith cannot trip in an AoO in this situation because Grik is already prone, and the AoO occurs before Grik makes it to his feet. He can attack for damage only in that situation. This will mean that Grik will make it to his feet on his original move action, since the attack for damage will not prevent him from standing, and will provide him with an attack in that round. |
| Vathelokai03-11-06, 12:21 PM | Vath: This is making my brain hurt. Vath's wife: huh? Vath: this fight I got this week. It's completely rediculous and I wish it would just end. I got set up to run a fight between an angel and a ghost. Vath's wife: Are you **iting me? That makes no sense! Did they get bored or something? Why? Vath: oh It gets better. The angel has a pet dragon. Vath's wife: *blink* ummm... right. See BALBANES VS. SAMUEL HIGHGROUND I can smell the compliants already... |
| Kaigan03-11-06, 12:43 PM | Vath: This is making my brain hurt. Vath's wife: huh? Vath: this fight I got this week. It's completely rediculous and I wish it would just end. I got set up to run a fight between an angel and a ghost. Vath's wife: Are you **iting me? That makes no sense! Did they get bored or something? Why? Vath: oh It gets better. The angel has a pet dragon. Vath's wife: *blink* ummm... right. See BALBANES VS. SAMUEL HIGHGROUND I can smell the compliants already... First things first.... Balbanes CANNOT bring in a young white dragon. Here is why: Maximum CA: The maximum CA a gladiator may bring into each fight is equal to his ECL-2, and no individual ally may have an Aecl>ECL-2 or an Acr>max(ECL-4,1). Explanation: What does Aecl>ECL-2 mean? If all of your Allies have an ECL (ECL=LA+HD), then you should simply add their ECLs together. The result must be at least 2 less than your own ECL. So, for example, our ECL 10 cleric could have a single ECL 8 cohort, or two ECL 3 and one ECL 2 ally, or any other combination adding up to 8 (his ECL-2). That is meant by Aecl>ECL-2. Explanation: What does Acr>max(ECL-4,1) mean? If your Allies do not have a LA, then you need to use their CR to calculate your ally limit. Your Ally's CR must be 4 lower than your ECL. This rule does not count for allies of CR 1 or lower. That is meant by Acr>max(ECL-4,1). Now Aecl is for a creature that has LA+HD. Acr is for creature that have no LA (i.e a horse). A young white dragon has 9HD and +3 LA for being young, for a total of 12. Balbanes cannot use this dragon till level 14, so Samuel's tactics are correct. This is a major error and should be corrected. |
| Zevox03-11-06, 01:04 PM | First things first.... Balbanes CANNOT bring in a young white dragon. Here is why: <snip> Now Aecl is for a creature that has LA+HD. Acr is for creature that have no LA (i.e a horse). A young white dragon has 9HD and +3 LA for being young, for a total of 12. Balbanes cannot use this dragon till level 14, so Samuel's tactics are correct. This is a major error and should be corrected. This was discussed before. Look under the rules for diplomacy allies and you'll find the note that they always use CR rather than ECL. So he can bring the Dragon in. On the other hand, the penalty for doing so is incorrect. The Dragon is CR 4, so Balbanes should lose (and Sammuel gain) (4/7)*25 = 14.28% xp and gp, not 6.25%. Zevox |
| Maraxus03-11-06, 01:24 PM | This thing with diplomacy allies is bad. That way, diplomacy allies totally outclass Leadership Allies (or to some point Mercs). ... Basicly anything where you are allowed to take CR instead of ECL. If at least NPC allies would all bring their own equipment (what would reduce the great diffrence between CR and ECL of most creatures at least a bit). Of cause, this all get's much meaner, when it comes to dragons. The discription of CR is wrong, it should be "A Creature of CR X is a good Challenge for a 4 character group of level X, not threatening them and using only few of their ressources. ... Except for the true dragons, they are much more dangerous at the same CR because dragons are cooler." Note, that this is meant to harm players. But now, the first player here has taken an advantage of this ... evil! (But why do I complain, Noko has skilled diplomacy, too. And a good Charisma. :) PS: But about the fight: Isn't the Breath weapon, allthrough it is SU-enough to harm the ghost still a corporeal attack, and therefor subject to 50% miss chance? Even when hit by spells or magic weapons, it has a 50% chance to ignore any damage from a corporeal source (except for positive energy, negative energy, force effects such as magic missile, or attacks made with ghost touch weapons). |
| Kaigan03-11-06, 01:26 PM | This was discussed before. Look under the rules for diplomacy allies and you'll find the note that they always use CR rather than ECL. So he can bring the Dragon in. On the other hand, the penalty for doing so is incorrect. The Dragon is CR 4, so Balbanes should lose (and Sammuel gain) (4/7)*25 = 14.28% xp and gp, not 6.25%. Zevox But he cannot have both the chocker and the dragon. His chocker is CR 5, since it uses elite array and has 12 HD and became medium. The dragon has CR 4. So in total, that's a Ca of 9. As in my post above: His CA cannot exceed ECL -2, which in Balbanes case would be 7. My point is... that an ECL 9 has a dragon ally that is 9HD and has 76 hp, and a chocker ally that has 12 HD and 100 hp? So I think that from the rules he should only get one of those allies. |
| Vathelokai03-11-06, 01:39 PM | But he cannot have both the chocker and the dragon. His chocker is CR 5, since it uses elite array and has 12 HD and became medium. The dragon has CR 4. So in total, that's a Ca of 9. As in my post above: His CA cannot exceed ECL -2, which in Balbanes case would be 7. My point is... that an ECL 9 has a dragon ally that is 9HD and has 76 hp, and a chocker ally that has 12 HD and 100 hp? So I think that from the rules he should only get one of those allies. True. Which is why I left the choker out of the fight. I think everyone thinks the that the 'diplomacy allies always use CR' is obviously broken; but it is the current rule, and even lonewolf said to go ahead with it. PS: But about the fight: Isn't the Breath weapon, allthrough it is SU-enough to harm the ghost still a corporeal attack, and therefor subject to 50% miss chance?Damnit. I knew I missed something. I'll go check on that. Yep; have to go through and fix that. On the other hand, the penalty for doing so is incorrect. The Dragon is CR 4, so Balbanes should lose (and Sammuel gain) (4/7)*25 = 14.28% xp and gp, not 6.25%.Thanks. I always get those ally adjustments off. |
| Vathelokai03-11-06, 03:31 PM | Well, the fight has been adjusted. That was some of the worst rolling for miss chance I have ever seen, and it changed the outcome. |
| SauroGrenom03-11-06, 05:43 PM | Vath it looks like the charisma damage is a bit funny. By my count the fight should be over in round 26 instead of 37. That's when Balbanes hit's Cha0. |
| Snommelp03-11-06, 05:54 PM | I'm not going to have time to run three fights on top of the miniquest. I can run one, but if the other two could get taken by someone else, that would be great. I have all tactics, so I can forward them over PM. Take your pick: Tueor (MysticMonk2005) vs. Aldyrr (Zevox) ECL 3 Marvell (Azarias) vs. Jimmy (funnymanmike) ECL 3 Little Daisy (DSugui) vs. Elzar (Biota) ECL 3 |
| TheMagister03-11-06, 06:25 PM | I'm not going to have time to run three fights on top of the miniquest. I can run one, but if the other two could get taken by someone else, that would be great. I have all tactics, so I can forward them over PM. Take your pick: Tueor (MysticMonk2005) vs. Aldyrr (Zevox) ECL 3 Marvell (Azarias) vs. Jimmy (funnymanmike) ECL 3 Little Daisy (DSugui) vs. Elzar (Biota) ECL 3 I'll take Tueor (MysticMonk2005) vs. Aldyrr (Zevox) ECL 3 TM |
| Snommelp03-11-06, 06:38 PM | I'll take Tueor (MysticMonk2005) vs. Aldyrr (Zevox) ECL 3 TM Thanks, TM. Tactics have been forwarded over PM. |
| lonewolf03-11-06, 07:09 PM | Well, the fight has been adjusted. That was some of the worst rolling for miss chance I have ever seen, and it changed the outcome. :w00t: Yay! Of course I only saw the already corrected fight and am fine with it. I think it would have made sense to try again to use Malevolence on the dragon after some time, but its debateable if such a improvisation would be something that is up to the pitlord. Im not seeing any obvious mistakes at the moment and Im not going to search for them unless there will be another edit that changes the winner again. Thanks for pitlording Vath and thanks to everyone who intervened on my behalf! |
| DSugui03-11-06, 09:24 PM | I'm not going to have time to run three fights on top of the miniquest. I can run one, but if the other two could get taken by someone else, that would be great. I have all tactics, so I can forward them over PM. Take your pick: Tueor (MysticMonk2005) vs. Aldyrr (Zevox) ECL 3 Marvell (Azarias) vs. Jimmy (funnymanmike) ECL 3 Little Daisy (DSugui) vs. Elzar (Biota) ECL 3 Marvell (Azarias) vs. Jimmy (funnymanmike) ECL 3 This fight is already mine... I didn't receive Marvell's tactics, though. If you have them, please PM me. |
| Vathelokai03-11-06, 09:58 PM | :w00t: I think it would have made sense to try again to use Malevolence on the dragon after some time, but its debateable if such a improvisation would be something that is up to the pitlord.The decision on malevolence was based on Sam not having ranks in spellcraft or know:arcana. He tried it once and it didn't work. To my mind, without spellcraft, it is impossible to tell if it was from a prot. spell or a successfull save (which would stop him for the whole day). This reminds me; the two banes of ghosts are prot. spells and truestrike. Why dosn't every arena ghost have 1 rank in spellcraft just so they don't have to have tactics that say "if he casts something without an obvious effect, hide in case it's truestrike"? |
| Luni03-11-06, 10:14 PM | The decision on malevolence was based on Sam not having ranks in spellcraft or know:arcana. He tried it once and it didn't work. To my mind, without spellcraft, it is impossible to tell if it was from a prot. spell or a successfull save (which would stop him for the whole day). This reminds me; the two banes of ghosts are prot. spells and truestrike. Why dosn't every arena ghost have 1 rank in spellcraft just so they don't have to have tactics that say "if he casts something without an obvious effect, hide in case it's truestrike"? Heh. Good point about Spellcraft. Poor Kara will have to take Psicraft when she levels up. Truestrike doesn't ignore the miss change against ghosties, as it isn't concealment. What is surprising, is that both ghosts have the same powers from the list. |
| Snommelp03-11-06, 10:36 PM | Marvell (Azarias) vs. Jimmy (funnymanmike) ECL 3 This fight is already mine... I didn't receive Marvell's tactics, though. If you have them, please PM me. Yeah, I've got them. I'll send them right now. That leaves me with one... Daisy vs. Elzar... |
| lonewolf03-11-06, 10:50 PM | What is surprising, is that both ghosts have the same powers from the list. Not so suprising for me. Corrupting touch is very weak. Frigthful Moan makes enemies panicked, which doesnt help much in the arena. Horrific appearance only works once a combat for a bit ability damage. that leaves 4 interesting abilities: Corrupting Gaze(pros: passive ranged attack with ability damage) Draining Touch(pros: versatility and good in conjunction with corrupting gaze) Malevolence(pros: Save or die with a good DC. Con: easily gained immunity with Protection magic) Telekinesis(Pro: Strong and good versatility. Con: no real synergy with the other powers) So the choice is IMHO clearly either: Corrupting Gaze, Draining Touch and Malevolence or Corrupting Gaze, Draining Touch and Telekinesis |
| Zevox03-11-06, 11:54 PM | Anixx vs Zassl, or the conjuring Cleric vs the Kobold hoard, is up here (http://boards1.wizards.com/showpost.php?p=8668190) (setup) and here (http://boards1.wizards.com/showpost.php?p=8668218&postcount=364) (fight). This one was marked by extreme shifts in luck and way too many allies for my liking (though I suppose I shouldn't complain considering how many allies one of the characters I'll be bringing in come the summer will use). Hope theres no major errors that need correcting. Zevox |
| TaggIIV03-11-06, 11:54 PM | I think that Drac vs Fjord is complete. http://boards1.wizards.com/showpost.php?p=8671707&postcount=365 Couple of questions, 1: I forgot if I am supposed to continue the fight until the combatant is technically dead (-10 hp), or if unconscious (-5 per se) is sufficient defeat. 2: Someone please tell me what the AoO rules are for delivering a touch spell. Tactics mentioned tumbling to avoid AoO but the skill description only included an option for tumbling through an enemy square. Keep in mind even if max damage is rolled, anything short of a critical on the AoO will not be enough to change the result. |
| Zevox03-11-06, 11:58 PM | 1: I forgot if I am supposed to continue the fight until the combatant is technically dead (-10 hp) Nope, just until they're dying or give up. The only exceptions are if they have the Diehard feat and can continue fighting with negative hp, or if something wierd happens and both hit negative hps at the same time, in which case you need to roll for stabilization to see if one dies first (I've actually had that happen to me once). 2: Someone please tell me what the AoO rules are for delivering a touch spell. Tactics mentioned tumbling to avoid AoO but the skill description only included an option for tumbling through an enemy square. Well, for the first question, you can deliver a touch spell on an AoO if you're already holding the charge. For the tumbling question, look at the skill description again. It says quite clearly that its a DC 15 check to tumble at half-speed as part of a movement, provoking no AoOs in doing so, while moving through an enemy space is a seperate option that is DC 25 for otherwise the same effect. Zevox |
| King Uther03-12-06, 12:49 AM | @Vathelokai A couple of things to note: 1. To use Dispel Psionics, he needs to make a ML check of DC6. 2. After Enervating himself, he can take no actions at all until the end of his next turn 3. Props on Round 4 buffs. 4. Crappy rolls are no good. 5. I would've liked a PM regarding my disregard for the Coefficient of allies. I was thinking I needed to keep it below EL-2, which a CR4+5 would. It doesn't matter now anyways. 6. Sam needs to draw his powerstone before readying it. So Round 9 should be somewhat different. 7. Balbanes can flurry with his magical fists. Something to do at least while I do not have my guisarme. 8. I wish I had a good point 8. |
| TheMagister03-12-06, 01:01 AM | Well chilluns, Aldyrr vs. Tueor (http://boards1.wizards.com/showpost.php?p=8672135&postcount=367) is up, and went pretty well, if I may be so bold as to speculate. Check it out and let me know what you think. Oh, yeah...why don't drac's maps work anymore? TM |
| Luni03-12-06, 01:03 AM | 5. I would've liked a PM regarding my disregard for the Coefficient of allies. I was thinking I needed to keep it below EL-2, which a CR4+5 would. It doesn't matter now anyways. I see the problem here Uther. CR 4 + 5 is a CA of 9, not an EL of 7. The formula for allies: CA = coefficient of allies Aecli = ECL of the i'th Ally (0 if LA is '-') Acri = CR of the i'th Ally (0 if LA is not '-') CA = sum(Aecli+Acri) Maximum CA: The maximum CA a gladiator may bring into each fight is equal to his ECL-2, and no individual ally may have an Aecl>ECL-2 or an Acr>max(ECL-4,1). |
| Zevox03-12-06, 01:08 AM | Well chilluns, Aldyrr vs. Tueor (http://boards1.wizards.com/showpost.php?p=8672135&postcount=367) is up, and went pretty well, if I may be so bold as to speculate. Check it out and let me know what you think. TM Wow. I'm amazed - Featylec (yeah, I know his name's hard to spell - comes from being a hodgepodge of Quenya Elvish words) actually didn't use up all my luck beating Finrod last week! That invisibility could have screwed me up bad (I didn't think he'd use it because he outclassed me in speed and grappling already - nice call on the adaptation btw), but those rolls kicked in at just the right times. Failed Command save, nice damage on the inflict and spiritual weapon hits - just what Aldyrr needed. Thanks a lot for running the fight! Oh, yeah...why don't drac's maps work anymore? I was wondering that when I looked at the ones I tried putting in my fight too... Drac, any idea whats up here? Zevox |
| Luni03-12-06, 01:10 AM | Anixx vs Zassl, or the conjuring Cleric vs the Kobold hoard, is up here (http://boards1.wizards.com/showpost.php?p=8668190) (setup) and here (http://boards1.wizards.com/showpost.php?p=8668218&postcount=364) (fight). This one was marked by extreme shifts in luck and way too many allies for my liking (though I suppose I shouldn't complain considering how many allies one of the characters I'll be bringing in come the summer will use). Hope theres no major errors that need correcting. Zevox Only problem I see, is that since Annix is Chaotic he can not cast Lawful spells which means no lawful snake can be summoned. He could summon a Celestial bison, Fiendish boar, Fiendish Dire Bat or a Huge Fiendish Monstrous Centipede as a neutral summons to bypass the Chaotic Protection. Edit: Annix can't cast any summons that can bypass Protection from Chaos. Chaotic, Evil, Good, and Lawful Spells A cleric can’t cast spells of an alignment opposed to his own or his deity’s (if he has one). Spells associated with particular alignments are indicated by the chaos, evil, good, and law descriptors in their spell descriptions. |
| Zevox03-12-06, 01:17 AM | Only problem I see, is that since Annix is Chaotic he can not cast Lawful spells which means no lawful snake can be summoned. He could summon a Celestial bison, Fiendish boar, Fiendish Dire Bat or a Huge Fiendish Monstrous Centipede as a neutral summons to bypass the Chaotic Protection. Hmm... looks like you're right. I didn't think that the spell became the alignment of the creature summoned, but it does. Oh well, since the snake never actually did anything and thus changing it wouldn't change the outcome, its not worth the time it'd take to edit it in. Edit: Edit: Annix can't cast any summons that can bypass Protection from Chaos. How so? As you had said, he can still summon NG, N, or NE creatures to bypass the protection. Lawful spells are prohibited to him since law is opposed to chaos, but since he is neither good nor evil neither of those alignments are prohibited to him. Zevox |
| Ravashack03-12-06, 02:35 AM | Edit: How so? As you had said, he can still summon NG, N, or NE creatures to bypass the protection. Lawful spells are prohibited to him since law is opposed to chaos, but since he is neither good nor evil neither of those alignments are prohibited to him. Zevox Because if you look at the description of the protection spells, they don't say that only lawful/chaotic/good/evil creatures (depending on the spell) are barred, they say the reverse--that only lawful/chaotic/good/evil creatures (depending on the spell) can ignore the protection spell. That is, -only- good creatures can ignore a Protection from Evil spell, -only- lawful creatures can ignore a Protection from Chaos spell, and so on. Meaning neutral creatures really really suck for bypassing things like that. |
| MysticMonk200503-12-06, 03:43 AM | Well chilluns, Aldyrr vs. Tueor (http://boards1.wizards.com/showpost.php?p=8672135&postcount=367) is up, and went pretty well, if I may be so bold as to speculate. Check it out and let me know what you think. Oh, yeah...why don't drac's maps work anymore? TM Thanks for running the fight. The greatest of warriors will fall at the simple rolling of the die. |
| Dracazar03-12-06, 05:06 AM | Oh, yeah...why don't drac's maps work anymore? Sorry, my bad, I was adding a new feature and did some mistake with upload, now it is ok, I'll post the feature in the map thread asap. For future reference if you notice probs use my email, I read it often. |
| Dracazar03-12-06, 05:10 AM | 2: Someone please tell me what the AoO rules are for delivering a touch spell. Tactics mentioned tumbling to avoid AoO but the skill description only included an option for tumbling through an enemy square. You already got right reply, I would only add that to do AoO the foe should threat with a weapon, if without weapon he can't do AoO even if the toucher is in his square. Also the victim is summoning, summon is full round action, so I think (and please someone confirm this) that he can't do AoO even if holding weapon because is busy with the spell. Thanks for non-late fight! |
| Dracazar03-12-06, 05:12 AM | Little Daisy (DSugui) vs. Elzar (Biota) ECL 3 If this fight is still orphan, I'll adopt it. EDIT: Send me tactics! |
| TheMagister03-12-06, 06:00 AM | Yay! Both my fighters liked the fight in its first incarnation! Now if only I could get them ALL to be like that, I could do one every week! ...maybe not. =) TM |
| Maraxus03-12-06, 07:15 AM | Anixx vs Zassl, or the conjuring Cleric vs the Kobold hoard, is up here (http://boards1.wizards.com/showpost.php?p=8668190) (setup) and here (http://boards1.wizards.com/showpost.php?p=8668218&postcount=364) (fight). This one was marked by extreme shifts in luck and way too many allies for my liking (though I suppose I shouldn't complain considering how many allies one of the characters I'll be bringing in come the summer will use). Hope theres no major errors that need correcting. Zevox Looks okay. I have to write much, much more detailed tactics. After that lion (damn nat. 20), one false life could have brought me back. (Not to speak of other thinks, like simply placing a big, prtable wall between Zassl and the greatest harm) ... But I guess, my opponent had also adjusted his tactics in the situation. About the summoned snake: Yes, it needs a lawful creature - but where does it say, that a chaotic caster cant cast lawful spells? Minor thing, (does not need fixing): Oh, looks, like I did not know the exact rules of splash weapons, too. But just because Eric throws the fire mistakenly into Ossf's square, it's still no direct hit |
| Zevox03-12-06, 09:27 AM | Because if you look at the description of the protection spells, they don't say that only lawful/chaotic/good/evil creatures (depending on the spell) are barred, they say the reverse--that only lawful/chaotic/good/evil creatures (depending on the spell) can ignore the protection spell. That is, -only- good creatures can ignore a Protection from Evil spell, -only- lawful creatures can ignore a Protection from Chaos spell, and so on. Meaning neutral creatures really really suck for bypassing things like that. This came up last week for the Ajora/Gundir vs Leif/Shaz team fight, if you recall. Its actually only Protection from Evil that says that. Protection from Chaos/Law/Good all say: This spell functions like protection from evil, except that the deflection and resistance bonuses apply to attacks from chaotic, and chaotic summoned creatures cannot touch the subject. So strange as it may seem, Protection from Evil works on neutrally-aligned creatures, but none of the other Protection spells do. About the summoned snake: Yes, it needs a lawful creature - but where does it say, that a chaotic caster cant cast lawful spells? Thats a Cleric restriction - Luni quoted it above. Clerics cannot cast spells of an alignment opposed to thier deity's alignment or, if they don't have one, opposed to thier alignment. Since summoning spells become the alignment of the creature they summon, he shouldn't be able to lawful creatures. Minor thing, (does not need fixing): Oh, looks, like I did not know the exact rules of splash weapons, too. But just because Eric throws the fire mistakenly into Ossf's square, it's still no direct hit Hmm.... can't seem to find anything that says one way or the other about this. I figured it would, since he had target a creature (thus the center of a space) rather than an intersection, but you may be right. *shrugs* Like you said, not a major point of the fight though. Zevox |
| TaggIIV03-12-06, 10:03 AM | Correct you are, summoning is a full round action which also nullifies the controversy of the AoO. Fight polished up and rewards were added. |
| Begferdeth03-12-06, 11:06 AM | One important thing you missed... the hawk has to enter Fjords space to attack him cuz its tiny. Fjord is covered in spiky bits, so he threatens all around him, and has a chance to skewer the bird on its way in. Small chance, but it could really change the fight :) I think that Drac vs Fjord is complete. http://boards1.wizards.com/showpost.php?p=8671707&postcount=365 Couple of questions, 1: I forgot if I am supposed to continue the fight until the combatant is technically dead (-10 hp), or if unconscious (-5 per se) is sufficient defeat. 2: Someone please tell me what the AoO rules are for delivering a touch spell. Tactics mentioned tumbling to avoid AoO but the skill description only included an option for tumbling through an enemy square. Keep in mind even if max damage is rolled, anything short of a critical on the AoO will not be enough to change the result. |
| Dracazar03-12-06, 11:26 AM | One important thing you missed... the hawk has to enter Fjords space to attack him cuz its tiny. Fjord is covered in spiky bits, so he threatens all around him, and has a chance to skewer the bird on its way in. Small chance, but it could really change the fight Fjord is summoing when the hawk enters his space, the spell takes 1 round to cast, he must continue the concentration from the current round to just before his turn in the next round. If he lose concentration before the casting is complete, he lose the spell. I think he can't do AoO. Also the Hawk could tumble with 60% of success (9+ on d20). Also Fjord could hit only with 5% of success (20 on d20). |
| Vathelokai03-12-06, 11:36 AM | @Vathelokai A couple of things to note: 1. To use Dispel Psionics, he needs to make a ML check of DC6. 2. After Enervating himself, he can take no actions at all until the end of his next turn 3. Props on Round 4 buffs. 4. Crappy rolls are no good. 5. I would've liked a PM regarding my disregard for the Coefficient of allies. I was thinking I needed to keep it below EL-2, which a CR4+5 would. It doesn't matter now anyways. 6. Sam needs to draw his powerstone before readying it. So Round 9 should be somewhat different. 7. Balbanes can flurry with his magical fists. Something to do at least while I do not have my guisarme. 8. I wish I had a good point 8. 1) Missed that. He just barely makes it with a (1d20+2=)7 vs dc6 (http://invisiblecastle.com/find.py?id=385724) 2) Oops. Read that wrong. But since he was hiding in the floor buffing it's not that big. 3-4) That was rough. I couldn't believe that rolling. 5) I didn't realize that allies were off until a couple rounds into running the fight. I appologize for not PMing, but that was the only time I had set aside to run the fight, so I rushed it. 6) Sam has both powerstones in hand at the setup, and carries it up to round 9. 7) The decision in round 14-18 to use the ranged weapon was to avoid the the gaze/touch combo that was doing lots of damage. It seemed a reasonable improve based on the tactics for the choker. 8) Here's a point 8 that I noticed. I didn't reroll the misschance the one time Balbanes did crit. Which brings me to a question: The luck domain power says that you can " reroll one roll that you have just made before the DM declares whether the roll results in success or failure." How can we use that in a fight? The way it is written, if you are playing tabletop, then you can look at the die and if you know the mods you will know if it hit before the DM declairs success or fail anyway. In CoCo, we know what the DCs and ACs are before we roll. Should the luck domain be allowed as a free reroll? It dosn't change the fight (bookkeeping error on chr. damage in round 15 means Balb. actuall went down in round 29), but it is interesting. |
| lonewolf03-12-06, 11:43 AM | about #8: Samuel is immune to criticals anyway. :D |
| TaggIIV03-12-06, 12:11 PM | Fjord is summoing when the hawk enters his space, the spell takes 1 round to cast, he must continue the concentration from the current round to just before his turn in the next round. If he lose concentration before the casting is complete, he lose the spell. I think he can't do AoO. Also the Hawk could tumble with 60% of success (9+ on d20). Also Fjord could hit only with 5% of success (20 on d20). Hm to end controversy, I rolled the tumble which succeeded 25=19+6 vs DC 15 (http://krisinchico.brinkster.net/searchroll.asp?username=FjordDrac#168899 ) I'll edit this into the fight post. |
| Vathelokai03-12-06, 01:14 PM | about #8: Samuel is immune to criticals anyway. :D He is immune to the extra damage, but it still automaticly hits. |
| Ravashack03-12-06, 01:16 PM | Ouch! That IS funky Zevox, my apologies. |
| lonewolf03-12-06, 02:26 PM | Sola vs. Shaz vs. Ajora vs. Mektos is up at last. It was a long fight for 3 of the characters and a very short one for the 4th. |
| Turin03-12-06, 02:30 PM | Evaine Dreamseeker vs Alagar is up. It took me a while to do this one, so hopefully it all turned out acceptably to the players. Thanks to both players for having very clear tactics, however! |
| Turin03-12-06, 02:30 PM | Edit: doublepost |
| Pittbull03-12-06, 03:05 PM | @ Pittbull: You will need to adjust the fight some. In round 3, Galagith misses a trip attempt. Either Grik gets a free attempt to trip Galagith there, or Galagith has to drop his guisarme to avoid that return trip attempt. If the guisarme is dropped, this seriously alters the fight. If the trip is successful, this also could alter the fight. In round 5, Grik is prone, and attempts to stand, causing an AoO. Galagith cannot trip in an AoO in this situation because Grik is already prone, and the AoO occurs before Grik makes it to his feet. He can attack for damage only in that situation. This will mean that Grik will make it to his feet on his original move action, since the attack for damage will not prevent him from standing, and will provide him with an attack in that round. Round3: Galagith missed only the touch-attack, that doesn't give Grik the option to turn the trip the other way. Only if you fail in the str-test it happens that the attacker can be tripped or be forced to drop the weapon. Round5: If you stand up, you're not considered prone anymore, I believe. I think the AoO occurs during standing up. We have used the way of ruling for a very long time, are you really sure, about your comment? |
| Snommelp03-12-06, 03:10 PM | Round3: Galagith missed only the touch-attack, that doesn't give Grik the option to turn the trip the other way. Only if you fail in the str-test it happens that the attacker can be tripped or be forced to drop the weapon. Round5: If you stand up, you're not considered prone anymore, I believe. I think the AoO occurs during standing up. We have used the way of ruling for a very long time, are you really sure, about your comment? Round 3 you are correct. Round 5 you are not, for this reason: when an AoO happens, it happens before the action which triggers it. If Grik standing up provokes an AoO, he is still prone when the AoO happens, so he has a lower AC but cannot be tripped on the AoO. |
| lonewolf03-12-06, 03:14 PM | Round5: If you stand up, you're not considered prone anymore, I believe. I think the AoO occurs during standing up. We have used the way of ruling for a very long time, are you really sure, about your comment? All AoO happen before the action that triggered the AoO. Thus you are still prone and cannot be tripped when standing up. |
| Erithmu03-12-06, 03:24 PM | Sola vs. Shaz vs. Ajora vs. Mektos is up at last. It was a long fight for 3 of the characters and a very short one for the 4th. Something that will be equaly as fun is the fact that Ajora brought a horse and shaz brought an elemental. Which would change the rewards. Only thing I see near the end is that Shaz could run bodyfuel for some more powerpoints as per his tactics. Granted this just extends the fight, and it will probably end the same way. But I leave that to your option |
| Pittbull03-12-06, 03:32 PM | Round5: Galagith's attacks misses, so Grik doesn't get damage from the AoO. So Grik can stand up, make a five foot-step and attack? This gives Grik an additional attack and if he scores huge hits, he might win. I'll roll that, if my interpretation is right. |
| Snommelp03-12-06, 03:39 PM | Round5: Galagith's attacks misses, so Grik doesn't get damage from the AoO. So Grik can stand up, make a five foot-step and attack? This gives Grik an additional attack and if he scores huge hits, he might win. I'll roll that, if my interpretation is right. The attack still hits, it just doesn't work as a trip attempt. However, Grik would still get the chance to throw a fight-changing critical hit. |
| Pittbull03-12-06, 03:54 PM | Round 5 is fixed: Grik dealt 31 points of damage, which wasn't enough, sorry mate. |
| Kaigan03-12-06, 04:19 PM | Just curious... is Drac's map editor working for anyone else? Because each time I try to use it, it comes back saying Done but errors on the page, and doesn't do anything. |
| Turin03-12-06, 04:31 PM | Evaine Dreamseeker vs Alagar is up. It took me a while to do this one, so hopefully it all turned out acceptably to the players. Thanks to both players for having very clear tactics, however!I went back to clean up some tags and noticed a minor error which had the potential to cause complaints and possibly alter the fight's outcome. I've made the edit... no change to the outcome, however. |
| Snommelp03-12-06, 05:04 PM | Round 5 is fixed: Grik dealt 31 points of damage, which wasn't enough, sorry mate. Meh, whatever. Thanks for fixing it, Pitt. |
| King Uther03-12-06, 06:40 PM | @Vath As far as the Luck Domain is considered, I always try to tell the PL what to use it on. Usually the first attack, or the next miss after that, a saving throw, or in this case a miss chance. @lonewolf Since we're the only active characters at EL9 it seems, would you consider accepting a duel for a rematch? I'll pay both credits. I'd even choose to not bring any allies to make it 1-on-1. |
| Dracazar03-12-06, 07:01 PM | Sola vs. Shaz vs. Ajora vs. Mektos is up at last. It was a long fight for 3 of the characters and a very short one for the 4th. Dear lonewolf I'm sorry to (perhaps) bother you but there are three issue that I clearly asked in the tactic: 1) As soon as Shaz got 12 or more wounds (he is below 31 hp) use Lay on Hands to heal 12 hp (I did an error last time) 2) Shaz has Body Fuel feat, if out of power points take 1 point ability damage to Str, Dex, and Con to gain 2 pp 3) Essence is instructed to use the Cure Light Wounds potion if Shaz fall down (below 0 hp) Shaz should use the paladin's Lay on Hands, it is quite obvious. Then, if needed he uses his feat: Body Fuel. Then, you did zero attacks with Essence, at least let her use the potion on Shaz if needed. Thanks |
| lonewolf03-12-06, 07:06 PM | Dear lonewolf I'm sorry to (perhaps) bother you but there are three issue that I clearly asked in the tactic: 1) As soon as Shaz got 12 or more wounds (he is below 31 hp) use Lay on Hands to heal 12 hp (I did an error last time) 2) Shaz has Body Fuel feat, if out of power points take 1 point ability damage to Str, Dex, and Con to gain 2 pp 3) Essence is instructed to use the Cure Light Wounds potion if Shaz fall down (below 0 hp) Shaz should use the paladin's Lay on Hands, it is quite obvious. Then, if needed he uses his feat: Body Fuel. Then, you did zero attacks with Essence, at least let her use the potion on Shaz if needed. Thanks All valid remarks. I will correct it. |
| Dracazar03-12-06, 07:09 PM | Just curious... is Drac's map editor working for anyone else? Because each time I try to use it, it comes back saying Done but errors on the page, and doesn't do anything. Sorry Kaigan, there was a javascript problem with Internet Explorer, now it should be fixed. |
| lonewolf03-12-06, 07:15 PM | @lonewolf Since we're the only active characters at EL9 it seems, would you consider accepting a duel for a rematch? I'll pay both credits. I'd even choose to not bring any allies to make it 1-on-1. Lord Frost is also active and I also wouldnt mind a team-monster battle or something like that. That way we both could win and more importantly we dont have to force any pitlord to do this challenge. :rolleyes: |
| lonewolf03-12-06, 08:22 PM | All valid remarks. I will correct it. Changes are done. The fight went on for 10 more rounds, but the result didnt change. |
| Biota03-12-06, 08:33 PM | Ch'ch'ili (Begferdeth) vs. a Troll is up. Will the troll be made into a mental vegetable by Ch'ch'ili's mind thrusts, or will Ch'ch'ili end up in the troll's gut? Find out here. Biota |
| King Uther03-12-06, 09:01 PM | @lonewolf In Ajora's tactics, it states to use ride for cover versus ranged attacks. If the ride check is made, then the hits on rounds 4, 7, 8 and 16 would all be negated, as my AC would be a 22. Also, on Round 30 Shaz's AC increase from a 19 to a 22 for no explainable reason, which would have allowed Ajora to hit him twice more. At that point it becomes a straight shootout for the gold. Which I still am likely to lose. |
| lonewolf03-12-06, 09:24 PM | @lonewolf In Ajora's tactics, it states to use ride for cover versus ranged attacks. If the ride check is made, then the hits on rounds 4, 7, 8 and 16 would all be negated, as my AC would be a 22. *sigh* you´re absolutely right. I will correct this, tomorrow. This fight could break the record of most arrows fired in asingle fight. Also, on Round 30 Shaz's AC increase from a 19 to a 22 for no explainable reason, which would have allowed Ajora to hit him twice more. This one is correct: Shaz starts shooting again in round 30 and thus gains the bonus from fighting defensively again. |
| Ariel2303-12-06, 11:55 PM | Evaine Dreamseeker vs Alagar is up. It took me a while to do this one, so hopefully it all turned out acceptably to the players. Thanks to both players for having very clear tactics, however! The fight looks good to me. I could probably dig through it for some +2 or something that was missed, but it was around 70 HP dealt vs 0 (that would be me) so I think it would need to be some pretty impressive errors. If I'd known it would have been me vs. the spiked chain/growth/invis I would have surrendered. (Seriously.) I thought there was a horse... :allalone: |
| SauroGrenom03-13-06, 12:19 AM | Frost vs Saffron is up. |
| Vathelokai03-13-06, 12:22 AM | Comments on Saffron vs. Frost - Blindsense needs Line of Effect? I didn't know that. That changes a lot. - Saffron and Frosts character sheet sblocks are switched. - I agree with the decisions you made about invis and miss chance. - I though that the natural attacks in grapples were nerfed to 1 attack per round? - Saffon's chances were slim from the start, but that rolling was awful. - Pretty sure that Saffron dosn't get 12,000xp for loosing. :eek: - Aug. expansion tatoo costs credits? I thought that was only if its ML was above my ECL. |
| NiQil03-13-06, 12:29 AM | *sigh* you´re absolutely right. I will correct this, tomorrow. This fight could break the record of most arrows fired in asingle fight. I believe I currently hold the record with a 122 round shootout on a former character of mine...Kaigan ran it...and hated me for weeks afterward LOL @ Vath: You are correct about the natural attacks in a grapple. A creature can make as many attacks or grapple checks in a grapple as it's bab allows....bab is the only thing that determines this, as per the most recent FAQ. See also the Court Decisions post, where this is elaborated upon. |
| SauroGrenom03-13-06, 12:32 AM | About Blindsense, read the description and it specificially requires LOE. Tattoo's and potions are always at minimum caster level. unless you use credits. About natural attacks in a grapple I researched it. He takes the -4 penalty on all his natural attacks because he is using the attack an opponent option instead of a grapple check. Or he could use a grapple check damage an opponent option and then only get the number of grapple checks allowed by his BAB and they are all using the same natural weapon. Damit! I just read up on this I cannot believe I flubbed it up! I'll have to change that. Hell the battle just got way longer. I'll fix the typo's |
| TheMagister03-13-06, 12:47 AM | About natural attacks in a grapple I researched it. He takes the -4 penalty on all his natural attacks because he is using the attack an opponent option instead of a grapple check. Or he could use a grapple check damage an opponent option and then only get the number of grapple checks allowed by his BAB and they are all using the same natural weapon. I'll fix the typo's Sauro, that's no longer true! Check the prison thread for court decisions (which has been updated with the new FAQ information) for the low-down on how attacks are resolved in grapples now. Hint: it doesn't matter how many appendages/claws/whatever you have now. You can attack in a grapple with a weapon (natural or manufactured) a number of times determined ONLY by your BAB. You got it. You edited just as I posted. TM |
| DSugui03-13-06, 01:42 AM | Danidus (Vecnoran) & Seyan'du (TaggIV) vs. KazzzAHM (Pittbull) & Hexacious (Turin) is up HERE. I hope there aren't many mistakes. Please check the rewards. |
| Vathelokai03-13-06, 01:57 AM | Tattoo's and potions are always at minimum caster level. unless you use credits.Huh... I looked around in the rules and couldn't find that. The blackmarket rules say "potions or oils not listed in the srd." Are we assuming that tatoos follow the potions rules? Since there is no list of possible tatoos in the SRD are we only charging for augmented tatoos? Anybody have a rules quote? |
| Vathelokai03-13-06, 03:23 AM | Danidus (Vecnoran) & Seyan'du (TaggIV) vs. KazzzAHM (Pittbull) & Hexacious (Turin) is up HERE. I hope there aren't many mistakes. Please check the rewards. Dosn't change the fight at all, but you put a note about potion of enlarge person being CL1. Strangely, the enlarge person potions in the SRD is listed at CL5; check the price on them. Since it is in the SRD that way, it dosn't cost credits. |
| Dracazar03-13-06, 04:51 AM | Changes are done. The fight went on for 10 more rounds, but the result didnt change. I would thank you. I should write better tactic for a 2 vs 1 fight, I thought it was an All vs All. |
| Argaud03-13-06, 07:32 AM | Dosn't change the fight at all, but you put a note about potion of enlarge person being CL1. Strangely, the enlarge person potions in the SRD is listed at CL5; check the price on them. Since it is in the SRD that way, it dosn't cost credits. And therefore, unless I am mistaken, the new rules mean it is not possible to buy them until level 5 (because they are CL5!) unless the player is willing to expend credits. |
| Pittbull03-13-06, 08:06 AM | OMG, I overlooked that. Didn't thought of that new CL-rule. If it is really a concern, I'll pay the credit for a customized potion and get 200gp back. |
| Macbrea03-13-06, 08:24 AM | Frost vs Saffron is up. Two comments: 1) I think your are using the tattoo of Empathic transfer incorrectly. In theory won't it transfer 2d10 point of damage from the person touched to the fine construct? Why would she tap a tattoo that was going to heal me? And even so, Lord Frost would never willingly be a target of an empathic transfer from Lady Saffron. And 2) Apparently, I forgot to mention I was hovering on my initative and would be able to fly 150ft at 0ft. Rather then walk 60ft on the ground. No big deal, though. |
| Erithmu03-13-06, 08:55 AM | @Lonewolf: I know you are editing your FFA today, and I know I posted this back a page but I don't think you saw it: Shaz and Ajora have CR 1 allies in the arena so the rewards are a bit off. 6.25% for each of em Also the guild rewards should be included ... I think everyone of those gladiators are in a guild. |
| King Uther03-13-06, 12:33 PM | @Dracazar Just so you know, it wasn't a planned thing. I thought Ajora was an easy target, and thought there was little chance to win. So I decided to target everyone else until SOla was left to give Sola the best chance to win due to the underdog factor. I really thought I would begin to do that, then fall prey to a Hold Person or similar spell. |
| Vathelokai03-13-06, 03:49 PM | 1) I think your are using the tattoo of Empathic transfer incorrectly. In theory won't it transfer 2d10 point of damage from the person touched to the fine construct? Why would she tap a tattoo that was going to heal me? And even so, Lord Frost would never willingly be a target of an empathic transfer from Lady Saffron. The tatoo is hostile empathic transfer, so Frost wouldn't have much choice (though he could save for 1/2 damage). And if it transfers the healing to the construct and not myself, then I want a refund. Also, there are some errors in the fight; might not change the outcome, but will change something. |
| Dracazar03-13-06, 04:37 PM | Daisy (DSugui) vs Elzar (Biota): Dracazar [ECL3] is up. @All: view the maps and you will see the LoS feature of the coco.php script. |
| SauroGrenom03-13-06, 04:41 PM | Two comments: 1) I think your are using the tattoo of Empathic transfer incorrectly. In theory won't it transfer 2d10 point of damage from the person touched to the fine construct? Why would she tap a tattoo that was going to heal me? And even so, Lord Frost would never willingly be a target of an empathic transfer from Lady Saffron. And 2) Apparently, I forgot to mention I was hovering on my initative and would be able to fly 150ft at 0ft. Rather then walk 60ft on the ground. No big deal, though. As for part 1. The effect carried acts as if the power were manifest by the user of the tattoo . The construct cannot manifest powers and realy doesn't cause a power to take effect. It causes an effect that is based on a power. Subtle distinction, but necessary. Thisis a hostile empathic transfer power anyway. Also I won't argue with you now on point 2, because it's not an issue in this battle. However it should be noted that strictly speaking by the CoCo rules you cannot hover in the beginning even if you have the hover ability. You must have perfect flight to do that. Also it is impossible to charge while flying. You can dive and that is simular to a charge, but you cannot dive when hovering 5' off the ground. If you want to charge you move on the ground with your ground movement speed. If you want to dive, then you need to fly and get to use your fly movement speed, but you are also required to drop 10' in altitude to dive. You cannot dive from the starting location. BTW the edited fight is here. |
| MysticMonk200503-13-06, 06:13 PM | Cher Vs Manzarf is up for grabs. I'm feeling realy sick right now and can't think very clearly. Manzarf (Abyssal Stalker) vs. Cher (Dracazar) : MysticMonk 2006 Match 08; Thanks for running the fight Free Activity: Profession (Magic Identify) 130 gp Objectives: Summons overwhelm him, stay away from melee Cher (Lawful Neutral Human Cleric 5) 31 hp: # [A] Cher (Dracazar) [Power: 1756 (878); 5 won, 6 lost] Manzarf (Chaotic Evil Dwarf Barbarian 1 / Fighter 4) 49 hp: # [A] Manzarf the Loathsome (Abyssal Stalker) [Power: 1908 (954); 5 won, 5 lost] Tactic: Start in the back of the starting box holding some pink flowers Round 01) Cast SM3 from memory (celestial hippogriff, augmented, 5 rounds, 2 hit +8, damage 1d4+6, fly 100', scent, smite evil +3, charge) Round 02) Cast Sanctuary from memory (5 rounds), move towards foe Round 03) Cast SM3 from memory (celestial bison, augmented, 5 rounds, hit +10, damage 1d8+11, smite evil +5, charge) Round 04) Move towards foe and ready to touch him As soon as he is very wounded (less than 1/4 health, this means about 3-4 hits from griff or bison) do this: Cast True Strike from scroll, go in melee. Use the domain's death touch for 5d6 damage and give his soul to Wee Jas and put pink flowers on the body Keep always Sanctuary up, this means to cast it again on round 7 and on round 12. Contingencies: If tactic is broken try more summons from scrolls (the are plenty) and more sanctuary from memory If something breaks the scheme feel free to improvise and use any scroll, they are there to be used! Again feel free to use any scroll, they are there to be used! If out of tactic please Play the character, Cher is a wise cleric Use Cure Moderate Wounds scroll if badly wounded (at your discretion, perhaps while inside Sanctuary) Use the 5' step to cast or draw scrolls avoiding AoO, cast defensively if needed Use Spellcraft to know what spells are casted Note: Summoned monsters (from memory) have Str +4 (so +2 to hit/damage) and Con +4 (so +2 hp * hit dice) for the Augment Summoning feat Remember that Celestial creatures have resistance to acid 5 cold 5 and electricity 5, spell resistance HD + 5 (7), Smite Evil Some summons have Tremorsense, they can detect and pinpoint any creature or object within 60 feet in contact with the ground Feel free to summon other monsters if you (Cher) think they are better for the situation Always use Smite Evil/Good if able If there are evident problems with this tactic please PM me, thanks Summons: Celestial summons http://www.systemreferencedocuments.org/35/theraven_stephenh/monsters/cf/cindex.html Fiendish summons http://www.systemreferencedocuments.org/35/theraven_stephenh/monsters/cf/findex.html Hi, and thanks for Pitlording! (You never can say that too often, right?) OK, this should be at least interesting! I admit, Manzarf has a lousy will save, but I'll do something to it someday. At least he's a walking armoury! She has way too much of options, so you'll need to improvise quite a lot. Start with the bow in hand in the front line of my box. Ready to shoot against spellcasting if I spot her, if not then run towards the rocks in the middle. If she summons some nasty creatures, try to get away from them, otherwise tap the tattoo of force screen and go to melee using my two-handed weapons. I don't wish to fight the summoned creatures, run away if possible, withdraw, anything (but please, no AoO's). If I get held, rage and try to break free (Manzarf once survived a CDG and did that). Remember that CDG is a full-round action and I get to save once more during it. IF POSSIBLE AT ANY POINT, GRAPPLE CHER! My main target in the beginning is to prevent Cher from casting by readied shots and forced concentration. It won't probably work but at least it will make her lose some spell levels. If she is in a sanctuary, don't bother to shoot, just run away from her hideous cretures. If I get toe-to-toe (which is my second main objective), trip attack Cher and then grapple with the free attack (that way she gets a -4 to hit with her AoO). Remeber that I have Quickdraw! If my hps drop below 15, use a potion of CLW. If my hps drop below 8, rage. If surrounded by multiple foes and hps drop below 13, rage. Ask, If problems. Remeber that Manzarf isn't an idiot of a barbarian. Have fun! Forward Message |
| Macbrea03-13-06, 06:27 PM | Also I won't argue with you now on point 2, because it's not an issue in this battle. However it should be noted that strictly speaking by the CoCo rules you cannot hover in the beginning even if you have the hover ability. You must have perfect flight to do that. Also it is impossible to charge while flying. Just for clarity sake: Gladiators with the ability to hover (though the feat or through perfect/good manueverability) may begin flying at this location, though their altitude is still limited to 0 feet. So, in theory.. I could start with a flight speed of 0 at 0 feet. Now, as has been stated it didn't really change anything. |
| SauroGrenom03-13-06, 06:30 PM | So, in theory.. I could start with a flight speed of 0 at 0 feet. Now, as has been stated it didn't really change anything. That must have changed recently. Last time I looked I remember only seeing the perfect flight allowing it. Thanks for pointing it out to me. |
| Kaigan03-13-06, 06:31 PM | @My gladiators: Your fights will be up tonight. I really need to start putting more time aside on the weekend for work both school and CoCo. |
| Macbrea03-13-06, 06:48 PM | By the way, why don't you think you can charge while flying? Nowhere in the description of flight does it state you cannot charge. What you cannot do is charge while gaining in altitude. Because your movement is reduced to 1/2 movement. Which is stated in the charge ability that you are unable to charge at that point. A flyer should be able to charge in any turn that it is level or above it's opponent. If it is 30ft above its opponent it become elligible for a dive (double damage). But nothing in the description states you cannot do it that I can find. |
| Gonbow03-13-06, 07:04 PM | Krayko vs Pestilence is up http://boards1.wizards.com/showpost.php?p=8684961&postcount=376. Moral of the story: When Pitlording a fight, follow your instincts ^_^ |
| SauroGrenom03-13-06, 07:08 PM | Well honestly I was told that I couldn't charge while flying. I don't see anything that says you cannot, nor do I see anything that specificially says you can. You need specific permission to be allowed to run while swimming and while flying, I assume that simular permission must be given to allow charging. But I'm less sure now. |
| NiQil03-13-06, 07:54 PM | Krayko vs Pestilence is up http://boards1.wizards.com/showpost.php?p=8684961&postcount=376. Moral of the story: When Pitlording a fight, follow your instincts ^_^ @ Gonbow: Can I have you adjust my crafting earnings? It should be 88 gp, instead of 82. @ ^Rayne^: If I might offer a suggestion...rather than having spider climb as a spell, you may want to consider swapping a spell to get your hands on expeditious retreat when you reach a level you can do that, or spend the credits to do it sooner if you have them. It will help your keep-away tactics far more, methinks. Of course, that's just my opinion, I could be wrong. |
| Skojar03-13-06, 09:17 PM | Gaston Dar'ath (waywreth) vs. Neidr Bresent (bgt) (http://boards1.wizards.com/showpost.php?p=8684747&postcount=374) is up. Interesting. I'm going to regretfully pass off Kitaya (Usurpator) vs. Jonathon (Abyssal Stalker) (http://boards1.wizards.com/showpost.php?p=8685516&postcount=377) to someone else. I was trying to do it, but honestly no amount of credit loss is penalty enough to get me to run this incredibly tedious fight. Maybe there's someone else with a little more patience. With the online dice roller, it takes about 45min a round, and that's without dozens of buffs and invisibility. |
| DSugui03-13-06, 09:20 PM | Daisy (DSugui) vs Elzar (Biota): Dracazar [ECL3] is up. @All: view the maps and you will see the LoS feature of the coco.php script. Finally some luck in my fights. Only one comment: the sheets are misplaced... Cool stuff this LoS feature. Can be very helpful sometimes. |
| TheMagister03-13-06, 09:22 PM | Gaston Dar'ath (waywreth) vs. Neidr Bresent (bgt) (http://boards1.wizards.com/showpost.php?p=8684747&postcount=374) is up. Interesting. I'm going to regretfully pass off Kitaya (Usurpator) vs. Jonathon (Abyssal Stalker) (http://boards1.wizards.com/showpost.php?p=8685516&postcount=377) to someone else. I was trying to do it, but honestly no amount of credit loss is penalty enough to get me to run this incredibly tedious fight. Maybe there's someone else with a little more patience. With the online dice roller, it takes about 45min a round, and that's without dozens of buffs and invisibility. I think I can take it. I'll PM pitlords with the information that I'm taking this fight off your hands. TM |
| Macbrea03-13-06, 10:58 PM | Kara the ghost vs Denshi is up. |
| DSugui03-13-06, 11:41 PM | Jimmy (funnymanmike) vs. Marvell Imago (Azarias) is up HERE No surprises here. |
| Biota03-14-06, 12:12 AM | Finally some luck in my fights. Only one comment: the sheets are misplaced... Cool stuff this LoS feature. Can be very helpful sometimes. Definitely one of those fights where you look at it and go, man if I was running my character I wouldn't have done things quite that way. Not that my tactics weren't honored, but Elzar going toe to toe with Daisy mounted on Athena while his ally was entangled wasn't exactly what I had in mind. Withdrawing and running around the entanglement until the Worg was free would have been more his speed. In any case a good fight. Biota |
| MysticMonk200503-14-06, 12:16 AM | Cher Vs Manzarf is up for grabs. I'm feeling realy sick right now and can't think very clearly. Manzarf (Abyssal Stalker) vs. Cher (Dracazar) : MysticMonk 2006 Match 08; Thanks for running the fight Free Activity: Profession (Magic Identify) 130 gp Objectives: Summons overwhelm him, stay away from melee Cher (Lawful Neutral Human Cleric 5) 31 hp: # [A] Cher (Dracazar) [Power: 1756 (878); 5 won, 6 lost] Manzarf (Chaotic Evil Dwarf Barbarian 1 / Fighter 4) 49 hp: # [A] Manzarf the Loathsome (Abyssal Stalker) [Power: 1908 (954); 5 won, 5 lost] Tactic: Start in the back of the starting box holding some pink flowers Round 01) Cast SM3 from memory (celestial hippogriff, augmented, 5 rounds, 2 hit +8, damage 1d4+6, fly 100', scent, smite evil +3, charge) Round 02) Cast Sanctuary from memory (5 rounds), move towards foe Round 03) Cast SM3 from memory (celestial bison, augmented, 5 rounds, hit +10, damage 1d8+11, smite evil +5, charge) Round 04) Move towards foe and ready to touch him As soon as he is very wounded (less than 1/4 health, this means about 3-4 hits from griff or bison) do this: Cast True Strike from scroll, go in melee. Use the domain's death touch for 5d6 damage and give his soul to Wee Jas and put pink flowers on the body Keep always Sanctuary up, this means to cast it again on round 7 and on round 12. Contingencies: If tactic is broken try more summons from scrolls (the are plenty) and more sanctuary from memory If something breaks the scheme feel free to improvise and use any scroll, they are there to be used! Again feel free to use any scroll, they are there to be used! If out of tactic please Play the character, Cher is a wise cleric Use Cure Moderate Wounds scroll if badly wounded (at your discretion, perhaps while inside Sanctuary) Use the 5' step to cast or draw scrolls avoiding AoO, cast defensively if needed Use Spellcraft to know what spells are casted Note: Summoned monsters (from memory) have Str +4 (so +2 to hit/damage) and Con +4 (so +2 hp * hit dice) for the Augment Summoning feat Remember that Celestial creatures have resistance to acid 5 cold 5 and electricity 5, spell resistance HD + 5 (7), Smite Evil Some summons have Tremorsense, they can detect and pinpoint any creature or object within 60 feet in contact with the ground Feel free to summon other monsters if you (Cher) think they are better for the situation Always use Smite Evil/Good if able If there are evident problems with this tactic please PM me, thanks Summons: Celestial summons http://www.systemreferencedocuments.org/35/theraven_stephenh/monsters/cf/cindex.html Fiendish summons http://www.systemreferencedocuments.org/35/theraven_stephenh/monsters/cf/findex.html Hi, and thanks for Pitlording! (You never can say that too often, right?) OK, this should be at least interesting! I admit, Manzarf has a lousy will save, but I'll do something to it someday. At least he's a walking armoury! She has way too much of options, so you'll need to improvise quite a lot. Start with the bow in hand in the front line of my box. Ready to shoot against spellcasting if I spot her, if not then run towards the rocks in the middle. If she summons some nasty creatures, try to get away from them, otherwise tap the tattoo of force screen and go to melee using my two-handed weapons. I don't wish to fight the summoned creatures, run away if possible, withdraw, anything (but please, no AoO's). If I get held, rage and try to break free (Manzarf once survived a CDG and did that). Remember that CDG is a full-round action and I get to save once more during it. IF POSSIBLE AT ANY POINT, GRAPPLE CHER! My main target in the beginning is to prevent Cher from casting by readied shots and forced concentration. It won't probably work but at least it will make her lose some spell levels. If she is in a sanctuary, don't bother to shoot, just run away from her hideous cretures. If I get toe-to-toe (which is my second main objective), trip attack Cher and then grapple with the free attack (that way she gets a -4 to hit with her AoO). Remeber that I have Quickdraw! If my hps drop below 15, use a potion of CLW. If my hps drop below 8, rage. If surrounded by multiple foes and hps drop below 13, rage. Ask, If problems. Remeber that Manzarf isn't an idiot of a barbarian. Have fun! Forward Message Any takers? I got a fever and my brain is fried... |
| TheMagister03-14-06, 03:44 AM | Jonathon Raven vs. Kitaya (http://boards1.wizards.com/showpost.php?p=8687898&postcount=379) is posted for your viewing pleasure in the battles thread. Man, I'm jealous. Can I borrow some of that luck? I'll return it, honest. Sorry, Mystic. I'm pitlorded out for the time being. TM |
| Dracazar03-14-06, 04:26 AM | Finally some luck in my fights. Only one comment: the sheets are misplaced... Cool stuff this LoS feature. Can be very helpful sometimes. Ops, I'll fix the sheets. I'm glad you appreciate the LoS feature :) Definitely one of those fights where you look at it and go, man if I was running my character I wouldn't have done things quite that way. Not that my tactics weren't honored, but Elzar going toe to toe with Daisy mounted on Athena while his ally was entangled wasn't exactly what I had in mind. Withdrawing and running around the entanglement until the Worg was free would have been more his speed. In any case a good fight. Biota Sorry Biota but your speed is less than Daisy, I think that it would not help you to flee around. |
| Turin03-14-06, 07:37 AM | Danidus (Vecnoran) & Seyan'du (TaggIV) vs. KazzzAHM (Pittbull) & Hexacious (Turin) is up HERE. I hope there aren't many mistakes. Please check the rewards.One thing I noticed is that summon monster has a casting time of 1 round. So the scorpions shouldn't appear until Round 6 and 7 (assuming the delay that you introduced... not exactly what I wrote, but I think that delay kept to the spirit of my tactics so that's fine). I don't think this error will make a difference in the fight, however, as by the time Seyan'du withdraws, he has no means of healing and so a couple of hit points aren't going to make a difference, as evidence by dropping him with a single magic missile. An aside: I meant to put Craft: Insect Repellants in my title line for Hexacious, not Alchemy. My error, no big deal. |
| Vathelokai03-14-06, 08:32 AM | Kara the ghost vs Denshi is up. Could you please add my free activity... craft:jewlery (108gp) |
| Mal-203-14-06, 08:53 AM | Here are the fights that appear to still be underway around Gladius: LEVEL 3 FIGHTS Merchea (Skojar) vs. Dronnar Darkjof (DSugui): Gonbow Valek Usher (DSugui) vs. Dordleton (nickbeat) : Kaigan LEVEL 4 FIGHTS Sunstroke (MindWandererB) vs. Eiletha (Kaigan) : Nickbeat Sappho (Biota) vs. Aramur (Usurpator) : Abyssal Stalker LEVEL 5 FIGHTS Manzarf (Abyssal Stalker) vs. Cher (Dracazar) : MysticMonk Aerryl (MindWandererB) vs. Loquan (waywreth) : DTFarstar LEVEL 6 FIGHTS Donak (Mal-2) vs. Leif Goldeneye (Sunwolf) : Kaigan Cyra Val (Stormwind) & Santos (Gonbow) vs. Feradeth (Kaigan) & Perius (Ravashack) : King Uther [Team] Ivangar the Exile (Turin) vs. Karen Douglas (Lonewolf) : Iced LEVEL 7 FIGHTS Barthleby (Pittbull) vs. Imperi Vahalla (Luni) : King Uther LEVEL 8 FIGHTS Telveran (Sunwolf) vs. Aeluath Dryearraheal (Kaigan) : Huan Kracknol (SauroGrenom) vs Unknown Monster : Iced [Monster] The deadline for fights is in about 7 hours. |
| Macbrea03-14-06, 09:00 AM | Could you please add my free activity... craft:jewlery (108gp) Ok, updated. |
| DSugui03-14-06, 09:53 AM | Ops, I'll fix the sheets. I'm glad you appreciate the LoS feature :) Sorry Biota but your speed is less than Daisy, I think that it would not help you to flee around. Err.. sorry, I just noticed something. Elzar's rewards is incorrect, it should be 225 xp/gp (300-25%) |
| Abyssal Stalker03-14-06, 10:48 AM | sappho vs aramur is done (http://boards1.wizards.com/showpost.php?p=8689326&postcount=380) |
| King Uther03-14-06, 11:14 AM | Both of my fights will be up in the next couple of hours. |
| Dracazar03-14-06, 11:15 AM | Err.. sorry, I just noticed something. Elzar's rewards is incorrect, it should be 225 xp/gp (300-25%) TY, fixed |
| lonewolf03-14-06, 11:47 AM | Unfortunately, I wont have enough time to fix the last problem in the Sola vs. Shaz vs. Ajora vs. Mektos fight(Ajora gaining cover from the mount). Sorry King Uther, but since you are retireing Ajora anyway I hope thats not too bad for you. but I did fix the rewards to include the ally boni. |
| Kaigan03-14-06, 12:21 PM | Okay Fight 1 up: Valek vs. Dordelton is up. Please look over for mistakes... other fight and Iced's miniq will be up later today, possibly tonight. |
| DSugui03-14-06, 12:45 PM | Okay Fight 1 up: Valek vs. Dordelton is up. Please look over for mistakes... other fight and Iced's miniq will be up later today, possibly tonight. Oh, boy... I think I'll call Valek "the Unlucky"... four defeats in a row, and all due to unlucky rolls... No complaints about the fight, though. Just one note: please add the Profession money for Valek |
| King Uther03-14-06, 01:21 PM | Barthleby vs Imperi is up. (http://boards1.wizards.com/showpost.php?p=8689690&postcount=381) For all that buffing and time spent, the fight was ended in 1 round. Pancakes. |
| Usurpator03-14-06, 01:28 PM | Jonathon Raven vs. Kitaya (http://boards1.wizards.com/showpost.php?p=8687898&postcount=379) is posted for your viewing pleasure in the battles thread. Man, I'm jealous. Can I borrow some of that luck? I'll return it, honest. TM OMG! :OMG! After I had written Kitaya's tactics I gave Jonaton less than 1% chance of victory. After I had seen Abyssal Stalker's tactics, I gave him less than 0,1% chance of victory. Rolling consistently good and having no less than 5 natural 20's on attacks can ruin anyone's day. Thank you for running it Magister, to me it seems you put a very good effort into running it, I'm impressed! There are however (there always are) a few issues, which, in a fight like this, cannot help but be possibly outcome changing: Round 11: you did your best adding up all the modifiers, but Kitaya should get an additional +2 from being invisible for a total of +10 vs. AC 10 (Jonaton also does not get his Dex bonus against an invisible attacker). This does not affect the fight at all, just noted for reference. Round 12: no problem with you ruling that Jonaton benefits from Misty's withdraw action. I have seen Pitlords rule either way, but both are rulings are fine with me. But.... Round 12: I asked to have Kitaya attack from 5 ft. away. Being enlarged she has 10 ft. of reach, the Withdraw action only causes the first 5 ft. of the move not to count as threatened. But since Jonaton has to move 10 ft. before being out of Kitaya's threat range, he will draw an AoO for doing so. I counted on Jonaton withdrawing, that's why I wanted Kitaya to get within 5 ft., so she could get of at least two grapple attempts (and the chance of failing both was below 1%) Round 13: Jonaton throws a javelin at Kitaya (with another 20!), but since Kitaya has deflect arrows feat, the javelin will be deflected and miss. I was amazed Abyssal Stalker even wrote ranged tactics against Kitaya, since the rare hit would be deflected anyway. Round 14: The spiritual weapon hits AC 22, Kitaya's AC 10 +3 Wis +0 Dex (running), -1 size, +1 dodge (feat), +4 mage armor, +4 shield, +2 deflection (shield of faith), which adds up to 23, not 22, so I think the weapon will just miss.... Don't feel bad about Pitlording this, losses to the dice happen. I can bear losing to the dice, I think its much worse to lose through Pitlord errors, poor tactic execution or rule issues. The quirkiness of the dice actually gives the fights a certain charm, it would be boring without them. |
| Usurpator03-14-06, 01:33 PM | sappho vs aramur is done (http://boards1.wizards.com/showpost.php?p=8689326&postcount=380) Thanks for running it, Abyssal Stalker. Went pretty much as expected, no string of 20's for my opponent in any case. ;) As long as Aramur wins and doesn't use any expendables, he doesn't mind progressing a bit slower through by taking an ally penalty. |
| Kaigan03-14-06, 01:52 PM | Oh, boy... I think I'll call Valek "the Unlucky"... four defeats in a row, and all due to unlucky rolls... No complaints about the fight, though. Just one note: please add the Profession money for Valek Done, @my other gladiators... fight will be up tonight. Got an unexpected pile of work to do. You know the kind that you file away in your mind to do later, then suddenly when it is due soon, it jumps out at you. Lol. |
| Pittbull03-14-06, 02:52 PM | Barthleby vs Imperi is up. (http://boards1.wizards.com/showpost.php?p=8689690&postcount=381) For all that buffing and time spent, the fight was ended in 1 round. Pancakes. After a quick view, I've seen no errors, but the usage of two scrolls: aid and protection from energy should have been casted from memory, not from scrolls. Would you change this, please. Thanks for running the fight! |
| Abyssal Stalker03-14-06, 02:56 PM | Thanks for running it, Abyssal Stalker. Went pretty much as expected, no string of 20's for my opponent in any case. ;) As long as Aramur wins and doesn't use any expendables, he doesn't mind progressing a bit slower through by taking an ally penalty. Yeah, sometimes the dice just decides the whole thing. Your monk was better, but my cleric was luckier. Hmm, maybe he should swap his domain to Luck :P Let me say that you weren't the only one surprised... |
| Luni03-14-06, 03:22 PM | Barthleby vs Imperi is up. (http://boards1.wizards.com/showpost.php?p=8689690&postcount=381) For all that buffing and time spent, the fight was ended in 1 round. Pancakes. The only error I see, is that Polymorph doesn't increase weapon size. So Barthleby will have a -2 to hit and deal less damage with his heavy mace. |
| TheMagister03-14-06, 03:40 PM | OMG! :OMG! After I had written Kitaya's tactics I gave Jonaton less than 1% chance of victory. After I had seen Abyssal Stalker's tactics, I gave him less than 0,1% chance of victory. Rolling consistently good and having no less than 5 natural 20's on attacks can ruin anyone's day. Thank you for running it Magister, to me it seems you put a very good effort into running it, I'm impressed! There are however (there always are) a few issues, which, in a fight like this, cannot help but be possibly outcome changing: Thanks! Round 11: you did your best adding up all the modifiers, but Kitaya should get an additional +2 from being invisible for a total of +10 vs. AC 10 (Jonaton also does not get his Dex bonus against an invisible attacker). This does not affect the fight at all, just noted for reference. He's got blindfight. No invis bonuses for you! Round 12: no problem with you ruling that Jonaton benefits from Misty's withdraw action. I have seen Pitlords rule either way, but both are rulings are fine with me. But.... Round 12: I asked to have Kitaya attack from 5 ft. away. Being enlarged she has 10 ft. of reach, the Withdraw action only causes the first 5 ft. of the move not to count as threatened. But since Jonaton has to move 10 ft. before being out of Kitaya's threat range, he will draw an AoO for doing so. I counted on Jonaton withdrawing, that's why I wanted Kitaya to get within 5 ft., so she could get of at least two grapple attempts (and the chance of failing both was below 1%) You were out of movement. I figured (correctly) that you'd prefer to get at least one attack in before Misery pinpointed you with scent and got in a free full attack (that's what would've happened if you'd walked up and just stood there so that you could take a 5' step next round and been base-to-base (face-to-face?) with him. I think I made the right decision. Also, i considered a charge, but your tactics said nothing about utilizing a charge...so I didn't. Round 13: Jonaton throws a javelin at Kitaya (with another 20!), but since Kitaya has deflect arrows feat, the javelin will be deflected and miss. I was amazed Abyssal Stalker even wrote ranged tactics against Kitaya, since the rare hit would be deflected anyway. {touches his nose with his finger and points at Usurpator} DAMN. You got me. That'll buy you 3 more HP and be potentially fight-changing. Round 14: The spiritual weapon hits AC 22, Kitaya's AC 10 +3 Wis +0 Dex (running), -1 size, +1 dodge (feat), +4 mage armor, +4 shield, +2 deflection (shield of faith), which adds up to 23, not 22, so I think the weapon will just miss.... And THAT is a true statement, buying you ANOTHER 5 hps. Well...that's a few more 20s he needs. I'll be editting it tonight. Don't feel bad about Pitlording this, losses to the dice happen. I can bear losing to the dice, I think its much worse to lose through Pitlord errors, poor tactic execution or rule issues. The quirkiness of the dice actually gives the fights a certain charm, it would be boring without them. Not to worry. Happy to do it. Sorry it'll be late. TM |
| Gonbow03-14-06, 03:44 PM | Dronnar vs Merchea is up here. (http://boards1.wizards.com/showpost.php?p=8691424&postcount=385) |
| Mal-203-14-06, 03:57 PM | For those keeping score at home, the following fights appear to be unfinished as of 9:00 PM GMT on Tuesday, and are thus late: LEVEL 4 FIGHTS Sunstroke (MindWandererB) vs. Eiletha (Kaigan) : Nickbeat LEVEL 5 FIGHTS Manzarf (Abyssal Stalker) vs. Cher (Dracazar) : MysticMonk Aerryl (MindWandererB) vs. Loquan (waywreth) : DTFarstar LEVEL 6 FIGHTS Donak (Mal-2) vs. Leif Goldeneye (Sunwolf) : Kaigan Cyra Val (Stormwind) & Santos (Gonbow) vs. Feradeth (Kaigan) & Perius (Ravashack) : King Uther [Team] Ivangar the Exile (Turin) vs. Karen Douglas (Lonewolf) : Iced LEVEL 8 FIGHTS Telveran (Sunwolf) vs. Aeluath Dryearraheal (Kaigan) : Huan Kracknol (SauroGrenom) vs Unknown Monster : Iced [Monster] |
| King Uther03-14-06, 04:26 PM | My fight will be up in a second. I got on the phone with somebody about my RL campaign, which will have its last day on Saturday(a 12 hour marathon). Give me a moment to put in the rewards. |
| Ravashack03-14-06, 04:40 PM | My fight will be up in a second. I got on the phone with somebody about my RL campaign, which will have its last day on Saturday(a 12 hour marathon). Give me a moment to put in the rewards. Thanks for running the fight King Uther. An FYI about Crawling tattoos though--Crawling Tattoos with a Save vs. Reflex power scribed on them don't allow a reflex save. A crawling tattoo must enter the target’s square to attack and thus provokes attacks of opportunity as it passes through the target’s threatened area. The tattoo makes one touch attack per round thereafter until it strikes its target or is destroyed. On a successful attack, the power scribed in the crawling tattoo affects the target if the target fails the appropriate saving throw; however, powers that normally allow a Reflex saving throw automatically affect the touched target. Crawling tattoos can ferry beneficial powers as well as harmful ones, and a target can allow the tattoo’s touch attack to succeed if he or she desires. Not a major issue; it's just for future reference. Oh yeah. And in Round 9, Perius can't attack. It still costs him a move action to reload his light crossbow. |
| King Uther03-14-06, 04:41 PM | Cyra&Sants vs Perius&Feradeth is up. (http://boards1.wizards.com/showpost.php?p=8691815&postcount=386) Rolls-wise, there is a clear winner. Luck played a major roll in unbalancing the scales on this one. Edit: @Ravashack Oh yeah, I forgot about that. That's two rules in one day I had to be reminded about. Well, truly it did not affect anything, as Santos rolled a nat1 on the save vs Deceleration. |
| Stormwind03-14-06, 05:02 PM | @King Uther: Looks about right ... not much one can do with those sort of rolls. Just two things to mention (although they probably won't make much difference): 1) Cyra can only use the lucky reroll on her mindblade 1/day as specified on her sheet. 2) Cyra should have used the heartening ability of her shield in round 8 for the +5hp as specified in her contingencies. As far as I can see this will at most extend the fight by one round. Thanks for running Storm |
| Gonbow03-14-06, 05:09 PM | Cyra&Sants vs Perius&Feradeth is up. (http://boards1.wizards.com/showpost.php?p=8691815&postcount=386) Rolls-wise, there is a clear winner. Luck played a major roll in unbalancing the scales on this one. Edit: @Ravashack Oh yeah, I forgot about that. That's two rules in one day I had to be reminded about. Well, truly it did not affect anything, as Santos rolled a nat1 on the save vs Deceleration. I didn't look at each roll, so I'm not sure if it would have had an affect; but Feradeth's AC was too high. When he specifically is using both hands to something (like reading from a scroll) isn't he denied his shield AC? (Which would affect all the times Santos' readied to attack him) Furthermore, the Shield spell doesn't stack with his actual physical shield. Gah on those horrible rolls. Just cant help that, I guess. And finally... Magic Missile is suspectible to spell resistance (As is Decelerate). Which Santos happens to have. Those'll need to be rolled. Sorry King Uther. |
| Ravashack03-14-06, 05:52 PM | I didn't look at each roll, so I'm not sure if it would have had an affect; but Feradeth's AC was too high. When he specifically is using both hands to something (like reading from a scroll) isn't he denied his shield AC? (Which would affect all the times Santos' readied to attack him) Furthermore, the Shield spell doesn't stack with his actual physical shield. Gah on those horrible rolls. Just cant help that, I guess. And finally... Magic Missile is suspectible to spell resistance (As is Decelerate). Which Santos happens to have. Those'll need to be rolled. Sorry King Uther. Hmmm. Based on corrections people are noting, Feradeth's AC goes to 15 (Alter Self), then 19, then 23. Santos's to hit rolls only get that high on the tattoo as far as I can see (Natural 1, 16, 18, 26 on tattoo, 19), so it doesn't affect his rolls at all. Curse the tattoo for screwing up your high roll. =X Perius's AC during the fight is 19, not 22, because he doesn't have a shield equipped so far, but it makes no difference since nothing was attacking him in the 19-22 AC range. Cyra's initial reroll actually hits, but the subsequent rerolls cannot be made. Round 16's Cyra's attack actually hits. |
| MindWandererB03-14-06, 08:02 PM | <sigh> Why does everyone hate my Aerryl so much? Out of the nine fights she's been in before now, only two have been finished before Monday, three have been late, and one more held over. As of today, fully half of her fights have been late. Is there something about her that everyone dislikes? And now Sunstroke is running late, too... I hope he hasn't contracted her curse.... |
| TheMagister03-14-06, 08:53 PM | Jonathon Raven and MISERY vs. Kiyata (http://boards1.wizards.com/showpost.php?p=8687898&postcount=379) has been editted and re-released. Unfortunately, the outcome didn't change, and Kitaya only lived one more round. There was another 20, if you can believe it, and a 17 in the same round. Hope I addressed all concerns to all concerned. :) TM |
| Kaigan03-14-06, 11:08 PM | Fight 2 is up. Donak vs. Leif Please check for errors. I can't believe some people's luck... |
| Mal-203-14-06, 11:20 PM | Fight 2 is up. Donak vs. Leif In round 2, I don;t think Donak should have had line of sight to spot Leif. He was inside an obscuring mist and while within the mist "[c]reatures farther [than 5'] away have total concealment (50% miss chance, and the attacker cannot use sight to locate the target)." |
| King Uther03-14-06, 11:22 PM | Sorry about the Shield thing. Sometimes when I run a fight, especially this big of one, I just increase the AC by buffs based on what their base AC says on the sheet, sometimes overlooking obvious things like that. Spell resistance checks here. (http://invisiblecastle.com/find.py?id=387724) By those rolls, Santos would've lived 2 more rounds, where he rolled an attack roll of 18 (http://invisiblecastle.com/find.py?id=387726) and 18 (http://invisiblecastle.com/find.py?id=387727) . Subsequently, Cyra would've gained 2 attacks on Perius, a 21 (http://invisiblecastle.com/find.py?id=387728) and a 21. (http://invisiblecastle.com/find.py?id=387729) That's some weird double rolling. Perius' extra attacks were a 21 and 13 (http://invisiblecastle.com/find.py?id=387730) . I didn't activate the heartening ability because the round in which Cyra dies Feradeth would've hit her for maximum MM damage, killing her anyways. But I could do that for you if you'd like. Essentially the fight remains unchanged, but if I edit the heartening and add the extra rounds Feradeth uses 3 more charges of his wand. If you want it you got it. Edit: @MindwandererB I'll be your official Aerryl PL if you want for a while. Or at least offer to take it if it comes last minute. |
| Kaigan03-14-06, 11:33 PM | In round 2, I don;t think Donak should have had line of sight to spot Leif. He was inside an obscuring mist and while within the mist "[c]reatures farther [than 5'] away have total concealment (50% miss chance, and the attacker cannot use sight to locate the target)." That's the thing. When you gained LOS, he was 20ft in the air. Now the radius of obscuring mist is 20', so he was just barely in the mist. and did not have the total concealment. Why sunwolf wanted to stay at the edge of the mist like that is beyond me. |
| Gonbow03-15-06, 12:32 AM | @King Uther Thanks for rolling the spell res. Would you mind adding Santos' profession money to the rewards and such? |
| King Uther03-15-06, 12:38 AM | Yeah, I'll do that as soon as I push the Submit Reply button. |
| MindWandererB03-15-06, 01:04 AM | I'll be your official Aerryl PL if you want for a while. Or at least offer to take it if it comes last minute.Dunno how DTFarstar is doing on it, but I'll PM you a copy of her tactics. Of course, this is pretty darn last-minute, but if it's possible that would be great. @waywreth: If you send Loquan's tactics to Uther as well, he might theoretically avoid a holdover. At the very least, he can probably post the setup and thus facilitate the fight for next week. |
| Abyssal Stalker03-15-06, 01:09 AM | Jonathon Raven and MISERY vs. Kiyata (http://boards1.wizards.com/showpost.php?p=8687898&postcount=379) has been editted and re-released. Unfortunately, the outcome didn't change, and Kitaya only lived one more round. There was another 20, if you can believe it, and a 17 in the same round. Hope I addressed all concerns to all concerned. :) TM -snip- Pitlord Says: GOOD GRIEF!!! What did you sacrifice to the dice gods, Abyssal?! -snip- My soul? |
| TheMagister03-15-06, 01:12 AM | My soul? Nah. Not worth the paper it's printed on. =) TM |
| Abyssal Stalker03-15-06, 01:18 AM | Heyhey... 50 bucks and a row of 20's ain't bad for it! One thing I noticed, you forgot to mention the Potion of Owl's Wisdom in Jonathons used items. |
| TheMagister03-15-06, 01:32 AM | Heyhey... 50 bucks and a row of 20's ain't bad for it! One thing I noticed, you forgot to mention the Potion of Owl's Wisdom in Jonathons used items. OH! Hey, thanks! Sure did miss that. I'll edit ASAP. ... 50 bucks? That shoulda come to ME. TM |
| King Uther03-15-06, 02:21 AM | @MindWanderer I'll do what I can. If I get the other tactics late or somehow don't get a long lunchbreak tomorrow(I usually get like 3 hours), I'll make sure it gets taken care of next week, as well as any other week you need. |
| Ravashack03-15-06, 04:50 AM | Just noticed when going over what was used King Uther-- Can you please edit in that Perius used a Crawling Tattoo of Deceleration please? And change "arrows" to "bolts". |
| Huan03-15-06, 07:09 AM | My sincere apologies to Kaigan and Sunwolf, but I am simply too swamped with work that your fight fell between the paperwork and I find I was unable to run it at all. Could someone please run it in time instead? Sorry again. Materials: ********************************* Tactics for Aeiou: Begin mounted on my pegasus, holding lance only. Immediately fly out looking for Telveran, when he is spotted, ready my action to move on his move action. Once he has complete the move action, and my readied action trigger, then move closer to him, negating any cover. Then when initiative's reset, charge him taking -5 to attack. So what should happen, is I spot him, and ready to move vs. his move. If he moves, then move towards negating cover. Initiatives reset, then spirit charge taking -5 to attack for powerattack. Use the lance two handed. My attack should be +8Bab+7str+1weaponfocus+1greaterwf+2ench antment+2charge+1higher-5powerattack = +17, and damage if hit: (1d8+ 10strtwohanded+2enchantment+2weaponspec+ 10powerattack) *3spiritcharge = 3d8+72 damage! If I miss, or he is still alive, draw shield and attack normally with my peg. Don't forget mounted combat to negate a hit, and please use pegasus for cover. That's it, http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v686/Shdw_Hunter/D%20and%20D%20Pics/Aeiou1.jpg Aeluath Dryearraheal Chaotic Good Elf Medium Humanoid (Wood Elf) ECL 8 (Fighter 8) Experience: 28,382 xp Next Level: 36,000 xp Statistics: STR 24 (+7) [16 pts] [+2 Race, +1 4th Lvl, +2 Item, +1 4th Lvl DEX 12 (+1) [02 pts] [+2 Race] CON 14 (+2) [10 pts] [-2 Race] INT 10 (+0) [04 pts] [-2 Race] WIS 12 (+1) [04 pts] CHA 08 (-1) [00 pts] Hit Points:... 64.5 [10 +7*5.5Fgt, +16Con] Bab;Grpple:... +8/+3; +15 [+8Bab, +7Str] Movement:..... 20 ft. Initiative:... +1 [+1Dex] Armor Class:.. 23 (touch 11, flat 22, both 10) [+1Dex, +9Armor, +3Shield] Saves: Fort: +08 [+6Fgt, +2Con] Refl: +03 [+2Fgt, +1Dex] Will: +03 [+2Fgt, +1Wis] Immune to sleep effects. +2 Racial vs. Enchantments. Racial Traits: Wood Elven Traits: -+2 Strength, +2 Dexterity, –2 Constitution, -2 Intelligence. - Medium: As Medium creatures, elves have no special bonuses or penalties due to their size. - Elf base land speed is 30 feet. - Immunity to magic sleep effects, and a +2 racial saving throw bonus against enchantment spells or effects. - Low-Light Vision: An elf can see twice as far as a human in starlight, moonlight, torchlight, and similar conditions of poor illumination. She retains the ability to distinguish color and detail under these conditions. - Weapon Proficiency: Elves receive the Martial Weapon Proficiency feats for the longsword, rapier, longbow (including composite longbow), and shortbow (including composite shortbow) as bonus feats. - +2 racial bonus on Listen, Search, and Spot checks. An elf who merely passes within 5 feet of a secret or concealed door is entitled to a Search check to notice it as if she were actively looking for it. - Automatic Languages: Common and Elven. Bonus Languages: Draconic, Gnoll, Gnome, Goblin, Orc, and Sylvan. - Favored Class: Ranger. Class Abilites: Fighter Abilites: - Weapon Proficiency: Simple - Weapon Proficiency: Martial - Armor Proficiency: Light, Medium, Heavy - Shield Proficiency - Bonus Feats Levels: 1,2,4,6,8. Feats: - Mounted Combat............. [Lvl 1] - Ride By Attack............. [Fgt 1] - Spirited Charge............ [Fgt 2] - Weapon Focus: Lance........ [Lvl 3] - Weapon Spec: Lance......... [Fgt 4] - Animal Affinity............ [Lvl 6] - Power Attack............... [Fgt 6] - Greater Weapon Focus: Lance [Fgt 8] Skills: 22 Total (*cc) [Skill Points: 22Fgt] Handle Animal.......... 14 [11 (rnk), -1 (Cha), +2 (Tool), +2 (Feat)] [11FGT] Hide:.................. -5 [0 (rnk), +1 (Dex)] [0FGT] [-6ACP] Listen:................ 03 [0 (rnk), +1 (Wis), +2 (Racial)] [0Fgt] Move Silently:......... -5 [0 (rnk), +1 (Dex)] [0Fgt] [-6ACP] Ride:.................. 16 [11 (rnk), +1 (Dex), +2 (Syn: HA), +2 (Feat)] [11Fgt] (+2 to stay in saddle) Spot:.................. 03 [0 (rnk), +1 (Wis), +2 (Racial)] [0Fgt] Languages:............. Common and Elven. Attacks: [+8/+3Bab, +7Str/+1Dex] +2 Lance (1-handed when Mounted)..... +19/+14 melee, 1d8+11, 20/x2 [+2Ench, +1WF, +1GWF] +2 Lance (2-handed).................. +19/+14 melee, 1d8+14, 20/x2 [+2Ench, +1WF, +1GWF] +2 Lance (1-handed Spirit Charge).... +21 melee, 3d8+33, 20/x2 [+2Ench, +1WF, +1GWF] +2 Lance (2-handed Spirit Charge).... +21 melee, 3d8+42, 20/x2 [+2Ench, +1WF, +1GWF] Longsword (1-handed)................. +15/+10 melee, 1d8+7, 19-20/x2 Longsword (2-handed)................. +15/+10 melee, 1d8+10, 19-20/x2 Longsword (1-handed Spirit Charge)... +17 melee, 2d8+14, 19-20/x2 Longsword (2-handed Spirit Charge)... +17 melee, 2d8+20, 19-20/x2 [Ma] Mighty Comp. Longbow (+7Str).... +10/+5 ranged, 1d8+7, 20/x3, 110' [+1Ma] [+1 Attack w/ Melee Weapons when Mounted vs. Small or Medium] Equipment: *=self-crafted; [Q]=quest (Gold)[Weight] Armor/Magical Items: (17,645 gp)[73 lbs] Armor: Blue Clerical Uniform......... (free)[- lbs] Armor: +1 Full Plate................. (1650 gp +1000enchantment)[50 lbs] Shidl: +1 Heavy Steel Shield........ (170 gp +1000enchantment)[15 lbs] Magic: Gauntlets of Orge Power....... (4000 gp)[4 lbs] Magic: Efficient Quiver.............. (1800 gp)[3 lbs] Miscl: Silver Holy Symbol............ (25 gp)[1 lb] Magic: Hand of Glory................. (8000 gp)[- lb] Weapons: (9,463 gp)[17 lbs] Weapn: Longsword..................... (15 gp)[4 lbs] Weapn: +2 Lance...................... (310 gp +8000enchantment)[10 lbs] Weapn: [Ma] Mighty Comp. Longbow (+7) (1100 gp)[3 lbs] Weapn: Light Crossbow................ (35 gp)[- lbs] (In Efficient Quiver) Ammun: Arrows (55)................... (3 gp)[- lbs] (In Efficient Quiver) Potions: (850 gp)[- lbs] Potion: Shield of Faith +2 [1]....... (50 gp)[- lbs] Potion: Cure Light Wounds x6 [1]..... (300 gp)[- lbs] Potion: Protection from Evil [1]..... (50 gp)[- lbs] Potion: Protection from Law [1]...... (50 gp)[- lbs] Potion: Protection from Good [1]..... (50 gp)[- lbs] Potion: Protection from Chaos [1].... (50 gp)[- lbs] Potion: Bull's Strength [3].......... (300 gp)[- lbs] Tattoos: (200 gp)[- lbs] Tattoo: Force Screen [1]............. (100 gp)[- lbs] Tattoo: Synesthete [1]............... (100 gp)[- lbs] Toos: (55 g)[- lbs] Tools: [Ma] Animal Whistle........... (55 gp)[- lbs] Allies/Animal Companions: (7,882 gp)[171 lbs] Allies: Light Warhorse............... (400 gp) ["Kethyr"] Allies: Pegasus...................... (3000 gp+1000training) ["Gael"] Miscel: Brit & Bridle................ (2 gp)[1 lb] Miscel: Saddle, Military............. (20 gp)[30 lbs] Miscel: Exotic Military Saddle....... (60 gp)[40 lbs] Armor: Chainshirt Barding (Large).... (400 gp)[100 lbs] Magic: Horseshoes of Speed........... (3000 gp)[- lbs] Equipment at Home: Gold: 580 gp Gold Accounting: Armor/Magical Items:.......... 17,645 gp Weapons:...................... 9,463 gp Potions:...................... 850 gp Tattoos:...................... 200 gp Tools:........................ 55 gp Allies/Animal Companions:..... 7,882 gp Past Expenditures:............ 1,353 gp Total Expenses:............... 37,448 gp Starting Gold:................ 3,000 gp Fight Earnings:............... 24,628 gp Quest Earnings:............... 10,400 gp Campaign Earnings:............ 0 gp Items Sold:................... 0 gp Total Income:................. 38,028 gp Remaining Gold:............... 580 gp Miscellaneous Statistics: Height: 5'0"; Weight: 94 lbs Encumbrance: 0-233 (light), 234-466 (medium), 467-700 (heavy) Equipment: 90 lbs Pre-Fight Actions: Rayos: All Scrolls deciphered. Kethyr[ [color=blue]Kethyr Heavy Warhorse Large Animal True Neutral Statistics: STR 18 +4 DEX 13 +1 CON 17 +3 INT 02 -4 WIS 13 +1 CHA 06 -2 Hit Points: 30 [4HD, 4d8+12] Bab/Grpple: +3/+11 [+3Bab, +4Str, +4Size] [u]Movement: 50 ft. Initiative: +1 [+1 Dex] Armor Class: 18 (touch 10, flat 17, both 9) [-1Size, +1Dex, +4Natural, +4Armor] Saves: Fort +7 [+4Ani, +3Con] Refl +5 [+4Ani, +1Dex] Will +2 [+1Ani, +1Wis] Tricks: Attack, Come, Defend, Down, Guard, and Heel. Special: Low-Light Vision, Scent Feats: - Endurance........... [Lvl 1] - Run................. [Lvl 3] Skills: 6 Total Hide.................. 00 [0 (rnk), +1 (Dex), -4 (Size)] [0Ani] Listen................ 05 [4 (rnk), +1 (Wis)] [4Ani] Move Silently......... 00 [0 (rnk), +1 (Dex)] [0Ani] Spot.................. 04 [3 (rnk), +1 (Wis)] [3Ani] Attacks: [+2Bab, +3Str, -1Size] Hoof:................. +6 melee, 1d6+4, 20/x2 Bite:................. +1 melee, 1d4+2, 20/x2 Full Attack:.......... 2 Hooves and 1 Bite. Equipment: [See Allies/Companions Section] Miscel: Brit & Bridle................ [1 lb] Miscel: Saddle, Military............. [30 lbs] Armor: Chainshirt Barding (Large).... [100 lbs] Miscellaneous Statistics: Space/Reach: 10ft/5ft. Carry Capacity: 0-300 (light), 301-600 (medium), 601-900 (heavy) Kethyr Equipment: 131 lbs When Aeiou Riding: Aeiou: 94 lbs; Equipment: 90 lbs; Total: 184 lbs Gael [color=darkgreen]Gael Pegasus Large Animal Chaotic Good Statistics: STR 18 +4 DEX 15 +2 CON 16 +3 INT 10 +0 WIS 13 +1 CHA 13 +1 Hit Points: 34 [4HD, 4d10+12 Bab/Grpple: +4/+12 [+4Bab, +4Str, +4Size] Movement: 90 ft: 60ft +30Item; 120 fly (average) Initiative: +2 [+2 Dex] Armor Class: 14 (touch 11, flat 12, both 9) [-1Size, +2Dex, +3Natural] Saves: Fort +7 [+4Ani, +3Con] Refl +6 [+4Ani, +2Dex] Will +4 [+1Ani, +1Wis, +2Feat] Tricks: Attack, Come, Defend, Down, Guard, and Heel. Special: Darkvision 60ft, Low-light vision, scent, Detect Evil at will, Detect Good at will. Feats: - Flyby Attack........ [Lvl 1] - Iron Will........... [Lvl 3] Skills: 7 Total 16 Magical Beast Diplomacy............. 03 [2 (rnk), +1 (Cha)] [2Ani] Hide.................. -2 [0 (rnk), +2 (Dex), -4 (Size)] [0Ani] Listen................ 08 [3 (rnk), +1 (Wis), +4 (Racial)] [3Ani] Move Silently......... 02 [0 (rnk), +2 (Dex)] [0Ani] Sense Motive.......... 09 [8 (rnk), +1 (Wis)] [8Ani] Spot.................. 08 [3 (rnk), +1 (Wis), +4 (Racial)] [3Ani] Languages............. Understand, but cannot speak Common. Attacks: [-1Size, +4Bab, +4Str] Hoof:................. +7 melee, 1d6+4, 20/x2 Bite:................. +2 melee, 1d3+2, 20/x2 Full Attack:.......... 2 Hooves & 1 Bite Equipment: [See Allies/Companions Section] Miscel: Exotic Military Saddle....... [40 lbs] Miscellaneous Statistics: Carry Capacity: 0-300 (light), 301-600 (medium), 601-900 (heavy) Gael Equipment: 40 lbs When Aeiou Riding: Aeiou: 94 lbs; Aeiou Equipment: 90 lbs; Total: 184 lbs Background and Storyline: Coming Soon Fight Results: ECL 3 vs. Iminir Daeloth (Ashenai): Cellerwarder........... Defeat! [300 xp, 300 gp] ECL 3 vs. Evram the Soulless (Snarkhunter): T'Var.......... Victory [900 xp, 900 gp] ECL 3 vs. Indri'ynar Per-El'ereth (Caterane): Pittbull..... Defeat! [300 xp, 300 gp] ECL 3 vs. Britknee the Bothersome (Arstimis): Jindl........ Victory [900 xp, 900 gp] ECL 3 vs. Jannelle Werabrook (Cellardweller): Sindorin..... Victory [900 xp, 900 gp] Level Up! ECL 4 vs. Flower (T'Var): Snommelp......................... Defeat! [400 xp, 400 gp] ECL 4 vs. Damon Tharkis (Cellardweller): Spasheridan....... Defeat! [400 xp, 400 gp] ECL 4 vs. Kiyo Zephlyn (Zepher): Snommelp.................. Victory [1200 xp, 1200 gp] ECL 4 vs. Sokai Calanis (Sindorin): Beldin................. Victory [1200 xp, 1200 gp] ECL 4 vs. Boraxx (Pittbull): Spasheridan................... Victory [1200 xp, 1200 gp] Level Up! ECL 5 vs. Jindl (Jindl): Spasheridan....................... Defeat! [500 xp, 533 gp] ECL 5 vs. Uhmentarymster (caterane): OWA................... Defeat! [375 xp, 400 gp] ECL 5 vs. Sokai Calanis (Sindorin): OWA.................... Defeat! [375 xp, 400 gp] ECL 5 vs. Ceres Solus (Sindorin): xanadu................... Defeat! [500 xp, 533 gp] ECL 5 vs. Merman (Caterane): Cerebus13..................... Defeat! [375 xp, 400 gp] ECL 5 vs. The Ripper (xanadu): Jindl....................... Victory [1125 xp, 1200 gp] ECL 5 vs. Nell Leonne (Huan): Jindl........................ Victory [1500 xp, 1600 gp] ECL 5 vs. Janelle Werabrook (Cellardweller): Pittbull...... Victory [1500 xp, 1600 gp] Level Up! ECL 6 vs. Trokk (Megrim_Lord): Sindorin.................... Victory [1575 xp, 1750 gp] ECL 6 vs. Indri (Caterane): xanadu......................... Defeat! [600 xp, 667 gp] ECL 6 vs. 3 Vampire Spawn: Jindl........................... Victory [3000 xp, 3600 gp] ECL 7 vs. Archangel Ixenthor (Caterane): Huan.............. Defeat! [700 xp, 866 gp] ECL 7 vs. Necavi Omnes (Huan): xanadu...................... Victory [2100 xp, 2600 gp] ECL 7 vs. Rook Devange (Huan): Caterane.................... Defeat! [630 xp, 779 gp] Quest "Aeiou's Past" (http://boards1.wizards.com/showthread.php?t=494590): King Uther........................... Success [8400 xp, 10400 gp] Level Up! Past Expenditures: (1,353 gp) Items Used in Fights: vs. Iminir:........ 6 Bolts (0 gp) vs. Evram:......... 1 Bolt (0 gp) vs. Indri:......... 13 Bolts, Potion of Shield of Faith, Potion of Protection from Evil (101 gp) vs. Britknee:...... Potion of Shield of Faith (50 gp) vs. Jannelle:...... 4 Arrows (0 gp) vs. Flower:........ Potion of Protection from Law (50 gp) vs. Damon:......... 10 Arrows (0 gp) vs. Kiyo:.......... Potion of SoF (50 gp) vs. Sokai:......... Potion of Protection from Law (50 gp) vs. Boraxx:........ Potion of Cure Light Wounds (50 gp) vs. Jindl:......... Potion of Pro Evil (50 gp) vs. Uhmentarymster: Potion of Pro Good (50 gp) vs. Sokai:......... 2 Arrows (0 gp) vs. Ceres:......... Potion of SoF+2 (50 gp) vs. Merman:........ Potion of SoF+2, 2 Potions of CLW, 6 Arrows (151 gp) vs. The Ripper:.... 3 Arrows (0 gp) vs. Nell:.......... Potion of Pro Evil, Potion of Pro Law, 28 Arrows (101 gp) vs. Jannelle:...... Potion of Pro Law, Tattoo of Forcscreen, Potion of SoF (200 gp) vs. Trokk:......... Potion of SoF, Tattoo of Forcescreen, Potion of Pro Evil (200 gp) vs. Indri:......... 15 arrows (1 gp) vs. Vampire Spawn:. Potion of Pro Law, Potion of Pro Evil, Potion of CLW (150 gp) vs. Ixenthor:...... nothing (0 gp) vs. Necavi:........ 2 Arrows (0 gp) vs. Rook:.......... Tattoo of synesthete (100 gp) In Quest:.......... nothing (0 gp) ********************************* Tactics for Telveran: Thanks for running this fight. Let me know if you have questions. Looks to be a tough fight for Telveran. Sunwolf Goal: Avoid charges at all cost, boost Telveran's AC, enfeeble him, and drain his con, and beat him down in melee. I expect him to be using his pegasus -- it has average flight speed so cannot turn well. I believe that using the central pillars in 2,2 or equivalent spots is safe from his charges. Get there if possible. However, I expect to be engaged in melee by round 3 (or sooner Bring Rascal, leave Nimblefoot at home. Enter behind rock on the right, with scroll of stilled alterself in hand. Notes: Telveran has DR3/- with his armor He doesn't threaten in the space next to him if he is using his lance. so step towards him to cast or attack him (take AOO from horse or pegasus -- don't attempt to cast defensively. move to avoid charges Win or lose init: Move if necessary to block his charge. cast stilled alterself from scroll (1d20+1 vs DC6 to use)-- alter Telveran into a gold half-dragon (treat as trogdolyte for +6 nat armor) and Rascal into a mini-gold dragon (treat as stirge AC 14 +2size, +2dex fly 40 average) Draw scroll of stilled ray of enfeeblement, (1d20+1 vs DC4 CL check to use), cast bless from personal power +1 to hit for Telveran and Rascal. When he gets in range, cast ray of enfeeblement on him. Draw great sword. After being based by Aieuo -- or in reach of his lance: Telveran will 5' step and ready to move to keep Rascal w/in 5' (and attack if possible). Rascal will attempt attack him. Aioeu doesn't threaten spaces around him but his horse does. Rascal will attempt a touch attack +10 (+11 w/bless) and attach himself to Aieou -- this is counts as grappling (A. loses his dex bonus) - once attached Rascal will have a +6 to grapple (6BAB-4str-8size +12(stirge racial)). The following round after Rascal successfully grapples - he will drain 1d4 con from Aieou. After draining 3-4 con, Rascal will remain on Aieou to aid another to give Telveran +2 to hit. Note if Aioeu moves more than 5' from Telveran Rascal will revert to a weasel but still be attached draining hp 1d4-3=1 per round or able to aid another since Rascal is threatening. After Rascal has drained con from Aiou, Telveran will just full attack with his greatsword and bite. Rascal will be biting for more con damage if he has done less than 4, or aid another if he is a weasel or has done 4+ con damage. If Telveran gets a chance cast True strike and power attack on the next round for -6/+12 damage use Divine might in this case. If Telveran can't full attack for some reason, and Rascal won't be in the area of effect - use breath weapon on A. and his horse. DC17 reflex 2d8 fire damage. -- save for half. Get lucky rolls for Telveran Interrupts: If Aioue is flying out of reach switch to glaive to attack him as he gets close. Use layon hands healing if taken more than 40hp and not engaged in melee or grapple. He does more damage than Telveran can heal with the wand of CLW so don't bother with that. Take any AOOs he give Telveran to damage him. Use wand of shield if for some reason A. hasn't attacked by round 3, dropping the wand is fine after use. Telveran Trueblade By the Power of Bahamut, I have the Power!! Member of The Celestial Forces [CEF TAX 11%] Free Action: Guarding Male Human 6' tall, 190 lbs Lawful Good Paladin 4/Sorc 1/Dragon Disciple(Gold) 3 (ECL 8) XP/XP to LVL 34038/36000 Languages: Common, Draconic, Celestial, Infernal, Abyssal STR...16 [+3]...(6 pts) DEX...10 [+0]...(2 pts) CON...18 [+4]...(10 pts) INT....14 [+2]...(6 pts) [Base 14] WIS...12 [+1]...(4 pts) [Base 12] CHA...17 [+3]...(8 pts) [Base 15 +1 4th, 8th lvl] Hit Points: 80 [10 + 5.5*3 + 2.5*1 +6.5*3+ 4*8] [HD 8] AC 21 [+0 dex, +9 armor, +1 natural +1 deflection], Touch 11, Flat 21 [+4 shield (force screen)][+1 deflection(SOF or PFE)][+1 natural (thicken skin)][+1 insight (Precog Def)][-2 enlarge person] DR 3/- Initiative: +0 [+0dex] BAB/Grap: +6/+9 [+6bab, +3str][enlarge +14 grapple] Speed 30 [base 30 +10 item -- med enc, hvy armor ] Saves: Fort +14 [4 Pal +0 Sorc +3 DD +4 con +3 DG] Refl +7 [1 Pal +0 Sorc +1DD +0 dex +3 DG +2 Familiar][-1 enlarge person] Will +10 [1 Pal +2 Sorc +3 DD +1 wis +3 DG] Immune to disease; Immune to fear Attacks: +1 Adamantine Greatsword +10/+5 melee, 2d6+5 [19-20/x2][enlarge 3d6+7] [MW]Lance +10/+5 melee, 1d8+4 [20/x3][on charge 2d8+6][enlarge 2d6+6] [MW]Cold Iron Armor Spikes +10/+5 melee 1d6+3 [20/x2]][enlarge 1d8+4] [MW]Heavy Flail +10/+5 melee, 1d10+4 [19-20/x2]][enlarge 2d8+6] [MW]Halberd +10/+5 melee 1d10+4 [20/x3](double damage when set vs charge)[enlarge 2d8+6] [MW]Cold Iron Glaive +10/+5 melee 1d10+4 [20/x3][enlarge 2d8+6] [MW]Composite Longbow (Mighty+2) +7/+2 ranged, 1d8+2 [20/x3] [110' range] [enlarge +5/+0 ranged, 2d6+2] Silvered Spiked Gauntlet +9/+4 melee 1d4+2 [20/x2][enlarge 1d6+3] Bite +9 melee 1d6+3 [20/x2]][enlarge 1d8+4] Claw +4 melee 1d4+1 [20/x2]][enlarge 1d6+2] Full Attack: Weapon (as above) AND bite +4 melee 1d6+1 [20/x2] Bite +9 melee 1d6+3 AND 2x claw +4 melee 1d4+1 [20/x2] [Bulls Strength: Two handed weapon adds +2 to hit/+3 damage, one handed weapon +2 to hit/+2 damage, secondary attack +2 to hit/+1damage ] [Divine Might: +3 damage] Feats: Combat Expertise [human] Mounted Combat [1st lvl] Power Attack [3rd lvl] Alertness (when familiar is within 5') Divine Might [6th lvl] [b]Racial Abilities: Human: Bonus Feat, +1 skill pt/lvl, any favorite class Class Abilities: Paladin: Aura of Good(Ex) Detect Evil(Sp): detect evil at will Smite Evil(Su): 1/day +3 to hit +4 to damage vs evil foe Divine Grace(Su): CHR bonus to saves Lay on Hands(Su): CHR bonus * Pal lvl hitpoits of healing = (3*4=12pts) Aura of Courage(Su): Immune to fear effects includes spells with fear descriptor, +4 morale bonus to allies saves vs fear w/in 10 feet Divine Health(Ex): Immune to disease Turn Undead(Su): Turn Undead 6/day Arena use 6/3=2 Spellcasting: Caster level is Pal/2=2 Sorcerer: Summon Familiar: Spellcasting: Caster level is Sorc 1 Dragon Disciple: Natural Armor Increase(Ex): +1 Bonus Spells(Ex): 2 bonus spells (added to Paladin) Natural Attacks(Ex): Bite (1d6+str) and 2x Claws (1d4+ 0.5str) Ability Boost(Ex): +2 Str Breath Weapon(Su): 30' cone of fire -- 2d8 damage 1/day DC 17 Skills (55 Points Class 35 Pal 5 Sorc 15 DD): +10 Craft Armor [6 rnks, +2 int +2 tool] [6pal] +10 Craft Weapon [6 rnks, +2 int +2 tool] [6pal] +11 Ride [7 rnks, +0 dex, +2 tool +2 synergy(Handle Animal)][7pal][+2 to remain in saddle] +12 Handle Animal [7 rnks, +3 chr +2 tool][7pal] +10 Knowledge Arcana [8 rnks, +2 int][6palcc][5sorc] +3 Knowledge Religion [1 rnks, +2 int][1pal] +3 Knowledge Planes [1 rnks, +2 int][1dd] +3 Gather Information [0 rnks, +3 chr][0dd] +0 Knowledge Nobility [0 rnks, +2 int][0pal] +1 Sense Motive [0 rnks, +1 wis] +6 Concentration [2 rnks, +4 con][1pal][1dd] +10 Diplomacy [7 rnks, +3 chr][1pal][6dd] +5 Spellcraft [1 rnks, +2 int +2 synergy(Know:Arcana)][1dd] +3 Spot [0 rnks, +1 wis, +2 alertness] +7 Listen [4 rnks, +1 wis, +2 alertness][4dd] +3 Jump [0 rnks, +3 str, +5competence(boots) -5 ACP][0dd] -5 Hide [0 rnks, +0 dex -5 ACP] -5 Move Silently [0 rnks, +0 dex -5 ACP] Languages: Infernal, Abyssal [2dd] Paladin Spells memorized: [1+2DD] [Spell levels: 3; Cast: 1 (1/3 of spell-levels)] 1: [DC 12] Bless Weapon, Protection from Chaos, Bless Sorcerer Spells per Day: [5/4] [Spell levels: 4; Cast: 2 (1/3 of spell-levels)] 0: [Dc 13] Detect Magic, Read Magic, Prestidigitation, Light (V,M) 1: [Dc 14] Truestrike (V), Feather Fall (V) Buffs and Prefight actions: Read Magic on all Scrolls Equipment: (C self crafted) (Q from campaign) Fine but archaic clothes (explorers outfit) [free] +1 Platinum Armor [50 lbs][8250gpC + 1000gp]treat as (Adamantine Full Plate) with Cold Iron [MW]Armor SpikesC[10 lbs][200 gp] [MW]LanceC [10 lbs][155 gp] +1 Adamantine Greatsword [8lbs][1525gpC + 2000gp] Silvered Spiked GauntletsC[2lbs][25gp] [MW]Heavy FlailC [10lbs][157.5gp] [MW]HalberdC [12lbs][155gp] [MW]Composite Longbow (Mighty +2) [3 lbs][600 gp] Quiver with 65 arrows [9 lbs][3 gp] 2X Belt pouch [.5lb each ][2gp] MW Signal Whistle [- lbs][50 gp] 2X Wooden Holy Symbol [- lbs][1 gp] Scrollcase [.5 lbs][1 gp] Wand: Cure Light Wounds(24) [(CL1)][750gp] Wand: Shield (42) [(CL1)][750gp] Wand: Ray of Enfeeblement (50) [(CL1)][750gp]"Weakening Breath" Amulet of Health (+2 CON) [4000gp] Ring of Protection (+1 deflection) [1500gpQ] Boots of Striding and Springing [4125gpQ] [B]Expendable Items: [CL] Tattoo of Skate [(ML1)][- lbs][100 gp] Tattoo of Force Screen (crawling) [(ML1)][.1 lbs][100 gp] Tattoo of Synesthete [(ML1)][- lbs][100 gp] Tattoo of Precognition Defensive [(ML1)][- lbs][100 gp] Tattoo of Precognition Offensive [(ML1)][- lbs][100 gp] Potion of Protection from Evil [(CL 1)][.1 lbs][50 gp] Potion of Shield of Faith [(CL 1)][.1 lbs][50 gp] 2x Oil of Magic Weapon [(CL 1)][.2 lbs][100 gp] 1x Oil of Bless Weapon [Cl 2][.1lbs][100gp] Potion of Enlarge Person [(CL 5)][.1 lbs][250 gp] Potion Resist Energy, Fire [(CL3)][.1 lbs][300 gp] 1x Potion Cure Moderate WoundsQ (225 gp), Potion FlyQ (562.5 gp) Potion HeroismQ (562.5 gp), 1x Potion HasteQ (562.5 gp) 4x Alchemical Fire [4 lbs][80gp] 3x Holy water [3lbs][75gp] 2x torch [2lbs][.02gp] 2x tindertwig [-lbs][2gp] Divine Scrolls: Scroll Protection from Chaos [(CL1)][-lbs][25gp] 5x Scroll Protection from Evil [(CL1)][-lbs][125gp] 2x Scroll Cure Light Wounds [(CL1)][-lbs][50gp] Scroll Divine Favor [(CL1)][-lbs][25gp] Scroll Bull Strength [(CL3)][-lbs][150gp] Scroll Owl Wisdom [(CL3)][-lbs][150gp] Scroll Eagle Splendor [(CL3)][-lbs][150gp] 1x Scroll Resist Energy [(CL3)][-lbs][150gp] 3x Scroll Bless [(CL1)][-lbs][75gp] Scroll Endure Elements [(CL1)][-lbs][25gp] Scroll Dispel Magic [5][-lbs][375gp] Arcane Scrolls no ASF: 2x Scroll Truestrike [(CL1)][-lbs][50gp] Scroll Blindness/Deafness [(CL3)][-lbs][150gp] Scroll Blur [3][-lbs][150gp] 1x Scroll Stilled Alter Self [(CL5)][-lbs][375gp] 1x Scroll Stilled Ray of Enfeeblement [3][-lbs][150gp] 1x Scroll Stilled Enlarge Person [3][-lbs][150gp] 1x Scroll Stilled See Invisible [5][375gp] Arcane Scrolls ASF: Scroll Mage Armor [(CL1)][-lbs][25gp] Allies and Equipment: Barding - Studded LeatherC[40lbs][50gp] MW Bit & Bridle [1 lbs][51 gp] Military Saddle [30 lbs][20 gp] Saddlebags [8lbs][4gp] Nimblefoot: Male Light Warhorse [150gp] Rascal: Male Weasel Familiar [100gp] Male Light Warhorse Large-sized Animal Hit Dice: 3d8+9 (22 hp) Initiative: +1 Speed: 40 ft. (8 squares) -- 60 base, med encumberance Armor Class: 17 (–1 size, +1 Dex, +4 natural, +3 armor), touch 10, flat-footed 16 Base Attack/Grapple: +2/+9 Attack: Hoof +4 melee (1d4+3) Full Attack: 2 hooves +4 melee (1d4+3) and bite -1 melee (1d3+1) Space/Reach: 10 ft./5 ft. Special Attacks: — Special Qualities: Low-light vision, scent Saves: Fort +6, Ref +4, Will +2 Abilities: Str 16, Dex 13, Con 17, Int 2, Wis 13, Cha 6 Skills: Listen +4, Spot +4 Feats: Endurance, Run Tricks: Combat Riding (attack, come, defend, down, guard, and heel) Rascal thinks that he is a Celestial Weasel. Size/Type: Tiny Magical Beast Hit Dice: 40 hp (8 HD) Initiative: +2 Speed: 20 ft. (4 squares), climb 20 ft. Armor Class: 15 (+2 size, +2 Dex +1 natural), touch 14, flat-footed 12 Base Attack/Grapple: +6/-6 (+6 BAB -4 str -8 size) Attack: Bite +10 melee (1d3-4) Full Attack: Bite +10 melee (1d3-4) Space/Reach: 2˝ ft./0 ft. Special Attacks: Attach(Ex) Special Qualities: Low-light vision, scent, alertness(granted to master), improved evasion(Ex),share spells(Ex), empathic link(Su) Saves: Fort +7 (+7 master +0 con) Ref +4 (+2 familiar +2 dex) Will +7 (+6 master +1 wis) Abilities: Str 3, Dex 15, Con 10, Int 6, Wis 12, Cha 5 Skills: Balance +12, Climb +10, Escape Artist +4, Hide +11, Move Silently +8, Spot +3, Listen +6 Feats: Agile, Weapon Finesse(B) Environment: Temperate hills Telveran's Crafting Projects: Crafting MW Adamantine Great Sword -- Spent 2/4 days 1684/3050gp Crafting MW Adamantine Great Sword -- Spent 1.4/4 days 1366/3050gp in Arbiter War Crafting Platinum Armor (Adamantine Full Plate) with MW Cold Iron Spikes -- Spent 4.6 days in Arbiter War + 7days + 6days total 16500/16500gp + (spikes) 400/400gp Crafting [MW] Cold Iron Spikes for Platinum Armor as part of armor above Crafting [MW]Heavy Flail, [MW]Halberd 155+157.5/312.5gp1day Equipment at home/(horse when traveling): Backpack[2lbs][2gp] Bedroll [.1gp] ArmorSmith tools [55 gp] WeaponSmith tools [55 gp] Quiver with 40 cold iron arrows [6 lbs][4gp] Quiver with 39 silver arrows [6 lbs][6gp] [MW]Cold Iron GlaiveC[10lbs][158gp] Waterskin [8lbs][1gp] 100' hemp rope [20lbs][2gp] 3 days trail rations [1.5gp] Tshirt I survived Gladius Arena and all I got was this lousy T-shirt Zeeker Shop Card [-][-] Total Gold: 38616 Gold spent: 37810.6 Gold left: 805.4 Miscellaneous Statistics: Encumberance: 0-76 (light), 77-153 (medium), 154-230 (heavy) Weight carried: 108 lb Mount weight carried: gear 81lbs + rider (190+108) lbs = 379lbs Character Background: Rumors of evil stirring once again in Gladius have drawn another Paladin to investigate... Shocking blue eyes under a mass of unruly black hair gaze in your direction. An indefiniable air of calm radiates from this man. He asks directions to Gladius in a clear baritone voice. As he rides off, a question lingers... Who was that man? Default Tactics Use Ride skill for cover and mounted combat feat to protect mount Vs Archers -- Charge and melee -- have mount attack too Vs Casters -- Shoot with arrows from 150+ ft Vs Melee -- Shoot with arrows, avoid charges, when in melee whack with lance or greatsword, allow mount to attack too Use lay on hands healing if drop below half health. Fights results: ECL3: 01: Inquisitor Valorum (Captain Mutilate)...........Triumph (Aramil Dunskar) [+675 XP][+675 gold] "A Lucky Shot felled this fine warrior" 02: Hagrid II (Pittbull).............................. .....Triumph (Kaigan) [+675 XP][+675 gold] "Nimblefoot saved the day against this worthy myrmidon" 03: Va'ria Theladrais (Sindorin)........................Triump h (Kaigan) [+900 XP][+900 gold] "After surviving her mightiest spells, I prevailed" 04: Deedlit (Cerberus13)............................ ....Defeat (Salrantol) [+300 XP][+300 gold] "I could not break her HOLD spell" 05: Coralias Tahlron (Kaigan)...........................Defea t (Xanadu) [+300 XP][+300 gold] "Luck favored her this day" ECL4: 06: The Ripper (ECL5) (Xanadu).......................Defeat (Pittbull) [+400 XP][+400 gold] "His nature spells were too powerful..." 07: Virgo Arkazzan (King Uther)........................Defeat (Cerberus13) [+350 XP][+350 gold] "What a powerful bearhug he has..." 08: Cyalin Orndrill (King Uther)..........................Triumph (Jindl) [+1200 XP][+1200 gold] "I took a nap and then forced his surrender..." 09: RakkaR the Reckless (Xanadu).....................Triumph (Pittbull) [+1350 XP][+1350 gold] "My arrows brought down the reckless archer..." 10: Eiletha Surion (Kaigan)...............................T riumph (Jindl) [+1200 XP][+1200 gold] "My arrows brought down the archer cleric..." ECL5: 11: Sinnoch Wildstorm (King Uther)....................Triumph (Xanadu) [+1500 XP][+1600 gold] "Rascal lead me to victory..." 12: Asmeroviel (Zerone)................................ ..Defeat (Malither76) [+500 XP][+533 gold] "I yielded to the invisible paladin..." Campaigns: C1: The Arbiter War Campaign Triumph [+18288 XP][+21600gp] ECL8: 13: Morgan MacNiven (Myrridin).......................Triumph (Zevox) [+2400 XP][+3400 gold] "His heart didn't seem to be in this fight..." 14: Va'ria (Sindorin) ......................................De feat (Kaigan) [+800 XP][+1133 gold] "Black tentacles kept me from fighting effectively..." [b]Past Expenditures (tot. 5125 gp), Sold 1680gp: Vs Inquistor Valorum: 1 arrow [color=red]0gp Vs Hagrid II: Tattoo of Force screen, Potion of SOF 150gp Vs Va'ria Theladrais: Potion of resist energy(fire), Potion of Prot evil, 2 Potions of CLW, and 2 arrows 300gp Vs Deedlit: Tattoo of concealing amphora [3], Tattoo of Force Screen [1], a Potion of SOF [1], and Tattoo of Biofeedback [1] 550gp Vs Coralias Tahlron: 3x Potion of CLW, Potion of Prot Chaos, Potion of SOF, 2x Tattoo of Force Screen, Tattoo of Thicken Skin, Tattoo of Skate, Tattoo of Biofeedback [1] , 4 x alchemist’s fires, Tattoo of Concealing Amorpha, and Potion of Invisibility 1350gp Vs The Ripper: Scroll Prot from Chaos [1], Potion Prot from Evil, and 1 arrows 75gp Vs Virgo Arkazzan: Scroll of Protection from Evil, Potion of Enlarge Person, and 7 arrows300gp Vs Cyalin Orndrill: Tattoo of Biofeedback [1], Scroll of Protection from Chaos [1], and 1 arrow. 125gp Vs Rakkar the Reckless: Potion of SoF, Tattoo of Force Screen, Scroll of Divine Might[1], and 11 arrows 175gp Vs Eiletha Surion: Scroll eagles splendor [3], Scroll owls wisdom [3], Scroll protection from chaos [1], 2 charges wand: cure light wounds [1], and 12 arrows. 325gp Vs Sinnoch Wildstorm: 1 charge wand: shield, Potion SOF, Scroll Stilled Alter Self [cl 5], Scroll owl’s wisdom [3], Scroll of Resist Energy [3], Tattoo of Synesthete. 825gp Vs Asmeroviel: 3 charge wand: shield, 3 charge wand: CLW 0gp Vs Morgan: Scroll of Bless, a Scroll of Resist Energy, 2 charges of his Wand of Shield, and 6 arrows 175gp Vs Varia: nothing 0gp In Campaigns: Arbiter War: 1 silver arrow, 1 tattoo force screen, 22 charge CLW, 1 scroll endure elements, 2 scroll stilled alter self, 3 charge shield wand, 1 oil of bless weapon, 2 days trail rations, 1 scroll stilled ray of enfeeblement, 1 scroll resist energy 1275gp Crafting Costs: Adamantine Great Sword 1525gp Platinum Armor (treat as Adamantine Full Plate) 8250gp [MW]Cold Iron Spikes on Platinum armor 200gp [MW]Heavy Flail 157.5gp [MW]Halberd 155gp Sold: (net loss 305gp) [MW]GreatswordC[175 gp] [MW]Armor SpikesC[175 gp] [MW]+1 Full plateC[825 gp + 750gpQ] sold for 825+500gp Gauntlets, spiked [5 gp] Heavy FlailC[7.5gp] HalberdC[5gp] Tattoo of Biofeedback [(ML1)][- lbs][50 gp] |
| waywreth03-15-06, 08:23 AM | Dunno how DTFarstar is doing on it, but I'll PM you a copy of her tactics. Of course, this is pretty darn last-minute, but if it's possible that would be great. @waywreth: If you send Loquan's tactics to Uther as well, he might theoretically avoid a holdover. At the very least, he can probably post the setup and thus facilitate the fight for next week. @King Uther - Tactics for Loquan forwarded off to you. Thanks for picking it up! Greatly appreciated. |
| Sunwolf03-15-06, 08:50 AM | That's the thing. When you gained LOS, he was 20ft in the air. Now the radius of obscuring mist is 20', so he was just barely in the mist. and did not have the total concealment. Why sunwolf wanted to stay at the edge of the mist like that is beyond me. @Kaigan Thanks for running the fight. I actually wanted to beyond reach in case Donak charged into the mist for a grapple. As to being spotted on round 2, I thought that the mist was a cylinder not radius spell -- my bad, will have to check the spells more carefully in the future. Not much Leif can do vs lucky criticals. Sometimes it is better to be lucky than good :) Can't complain about someone's luck since Leif has had his share of lucky rolls too. Congrats to Mal-2's Donak. |
| Kaigan03-15-06, 12:00 PM | @Kaigan Thanks for running the fight. I actually wanted to beyond reach in case Donak charged into the mist for a grapple. As to being spotted on round 2, I thought that the mist was a cylinder not radius spell -- my bad, will have to check the spells more carefully in the future. Not much Leif can do vs lucky criticals. Sometimes it is better to be lucky than good :) Can't complain about someone's luck since Leif has had his share of lucky rolls too. Congrats to Mal-2's Donak. No, I have to apologize, I was wrong, it is a cylinder spell, so I am going back to roll at the end of the fight. You basically have 2SL and 2HP left., will post when I am done editting. |
| Kaigan03-15-06, 12:12 PM | Fight 2 is up. Donak vs. Leif Please check for errors. I can't believe some people's luck... Please check this over again. I editted the fight, and the results changed. The edit in the fight occurred because I misread the area of obscuring mist, thinking it was a sphere instead of cylinder. This made Donak's first attack, the one that origonally hit, miss, and would not play a significant role. But this also gave Leif one more chance to use a MM, which killed Donak. So please read over it thanks. |
| Mal-203-15-06, 01:32 PM | Please check this over again. I editted the fight, and the results changed. The edit in the fight occurred because I misread the area of obscuring mist, thinking it was a sphere instead of cylinder. This made Donak's first attack, the one that origonally hit, miss, and would not play a significant role. Shoot. You got Donak's hit points wrong. When he activates Chain of Personal Superiority for +2 Str and Con, his hit points increase from 31 to 37 (as noted on the character sheet). In round 8, instead of being unconscious with -2 hit points, he should still be up with 4 hp remaining. |
| Kaigan03-15-06, 01:55 PM | Shoot. You got Donak's hit points wrong. When he activates Chain of Personal Superiority for +2 Str and Con, his hit points increase from 31 to 37 (as noted on the character sheet). In round 8, instead of being unconscious with -2 hit points, he should still be up with 4 hp remaining. Darn, that's right... well let's hope you get these last hits in... Edit: Made the change... only made the fight last 1 round longer. |
| King Uther03-15-06, 04:30 PM | Loquan vs Aerryl is up. (http://boards1.wizards.com/showpost.php?p=8699940&postcount=388) It was run quickly, but really high rolls made the fight quick and decisive. If any party objects, I will give it a full rerun next pairing. |
| waywreth03-15-06, 04:47 PM | Loquan vs Aerryl is up. (http://boards1.wizards.com/showpost.php?p=8699940&postcount=388) It was run quickly, but really high rolls made the fight quick and decisive. If any party objects, I will give it a full rerun next pairing. And my tactics were written because Loquan won't win any fights until level 6 without some lucky rolling on his part (which doesn't seem to happen). You realize there was no need to hurry? We're well passed the edit deadline anyway so both characters can't be paired for the March 15th. Ah well no big deal, you managed to get a fight done before even pairings are up. Thanks for running it. Edit: I updated my character and put a big note in bold, maybe he'll get paired. Thanks again King Uther - picking up a fight at the last second is really a nice thing to do. |
| MindWandererB03-15-06, 05:58 PM | Big thanks from my end, too. I also updated Aerryl, and I sent a PM to Pitlords making sure he knows what's going on--at the least, he doesn't need to assign us a new pitlord. There is a big mistake, though: bite attacks don't do double damage on a diving charge, only claw/talon attacks do that. In fact, bites can't be used in a dive at all. However, I will assume that with the way things were going, Loquan wasn't going to do so hot anyway. That was about to be a lot of animals chewing on him. And without him going with Ego Whip, I had the healing contigency as well. Also, please add tax (8% to TLT) and free activity (teach Seek to Predator) when you get a chance. Thanks! |