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| TelinArtho09-12-07, 11:04 AM | Fights of the Week: September 12th Please don't edit the sheet after the deadline or you will lose the match. Rules of Gladius All that you need to know is written in the Rules of Gladius. It could be useful also to give a look to the Court Decisions Part 1 and Part 2. Please do not make fake accounts or insult the Elders. Pairings GM MindwandererB will pair the active Characters of Gladius after the deadline. Link to pairings. Make sure that your character is not in prison. Pitlording You should use the CoCo Dice Roller (http://www.hwx.it/wizards.com) for the fight. If you need it, there is a nice template ready to use that will help. You could find the Battle Map Tag Generator (http://www.hwx.it/coco) for dynamic Maps very useful. You must post a link to your fight in this thread when it is complete. If you need a quick and dirty tool to calculate distances between two points (in 2-D or 3-D), this tool used to suffice until it got taken down without giving us proper notification... the Nerve Another useful link is the Quick Access tables for XP and Gold. If a fight needs to be rerun, the Pitlord has to inform the Pitlords account. He cannot react to requests from Players because the other player and the pitlord might disagree. He has no time to read the fight and the discussion. Please keep that in mind. PMs from players with rerun requests won't have an impact. Recent News and Developments Definition for "Humanoid-like" for armor has been established. Currently being discussed in the Council: Reworking credits/rewards/costs. Comments & Concerns Post any comments or concerns for this weeks fights in this thread. Be kind and courteous to your fellow posters, and don't feed the pitlords. Please remember that they do hard work and consume a lot of time to let you play. Above all, have FUN! If you have questions or comments on any of the changes, please make your posts be heard in the Council of Gladius! |
| TelinArtho09-12-07, 03:06 PM | Looks like we could use a few more pitlords for pairings this week... just like most weeks. |
| Macbrea09-12-07, 05:04 PM | Not much I can do this week... stupid business trip on sunday til thursday. |
| hogarth09-12-07, 05:06 PM | If it helps, I'll take one (level 3 or 4 only, no miniquests). |
| MindWandererB09-12-07, 05:22 PM | Sorry, hogarth, I was pretty much done by the time you posted, but you may want to help someone out anyway. There are a few people who would probably love to lose a fight they're signed up for.... Anyway, pairings are done. Credits Callix F2 Eamane F2 Erithmu F2 lonewolf F1 A-2 Sjiggie F1 Taureus_Drakken F2 TelinArtho F4 templer10 F5 A-1 whitebaron F2 A-1 MindWandererB A2 Niqil A1 A-1 SauroGrenom A1 Key: F=Fight, Q=Quest, C=Campaign, G=Guildmaster, A=Admin or Active Characters |
| TelinArtho09-12-07, 05:24 PM | @MWB - looks like Slade Tungsten is an ECL5 character in the interleague fight with Erithmu (ECL6) and Ialgo (ECL4). |
| MindWandererB09-12-07, 05:36 PM | @MWB - looks like Slade Tungsten is an ECL5 character in the interleague fight with Erithmu (ECL6) and Ialgo (ECL4). Aw, hell. That's going to require quite a bit of juggling. Everyone in those ECLs, hold your horses before writing tactics or rolling monsters. Edit: Here's the corrected ECLs: LEVEL 4 FIGHTS Ralein Dreamstriker (Callix) vs. Wroth Korthek (Eluria) : Sjiggie [Arena] [Week 2] Ialgo (TelinArtho) vs. Unknown Monster : hogarth [Arena] Dentik Earthmolder (TelinArtho) vs. Xanaver Valassar (Sjiggie). : Erithmu [Cavern] LEVEL 5 FIGHTS Truls Rohk (NiQil) vs. Wisp (c00lz3) : whitebaron [Temple] Tyden Rayn (NiQil) vs. Felice tu'Ria (Salrantol) vs. Slade Tungsten (Sjiggie) : templer10 [Arena] [All-vs-All] Tiris Rush (NiQil) vs. The shadow (Rauul) : Erithmu [Forest] LEVEL 6 FIGHTS Erithmu Darkmane (Erithmu) vs. Unknown Monster : Eamane [City] hogarth: +1 credit. |
| templer1009-12-07, 05:38 PM | Oh brother - iam feeling another loss coming for Elrick - fighting a Ghost in the Dark - so much fun.... |
| TelinArtho09-12-07, 05:39 PM | Aw, hell. That's going to require quite a bit of juggling. Everyone in those ECLs, hold your horses before writing tactics or rolling monsters. Yeah - it looked like it might be a mess... Anyway - @templer10 - monster info for Lord Lorian is posted. |
| templer1009-12-07, 05:47 PM | HOGARTH - monster has been rolled - 3 medium constructs |
| Eamane09-12-07, 05:48 PM | So in a random question; What's happening with the Denthian attacks? Are they going to be resolved eventually (should I continue to have my two characters on hold, waiting for when we have pitlords) or are they non-events due to the stress they are putting on our resources at the moment? (And thus, I can resume rotating those two characters with my other characters, as is my standard habit) |
| whitebaron09-12-07, 05:50 PM | callix: self-destructing-tactics for verren sent. he'll get shot down, i'm sure about that. |
| MindWandererB09-12-07, 05:55 PM | Oh brother - iam feeling another loss coming for Elrick - fighting a Ghost in the Dark - so much fun....And I have worse news for you: I didn't think to have Kervan prepare more than one Light spell, which he used already. And he seems to be the one character I never bought a torch for. So unless Elrick can find him and help him out, he's totally helpless. At least he'll be immune to gaze attacks.... So in a random question; What's happening with the Denthian attacks? Are they going to be resolved eventually (should I continue to have my two characters on hold, waiting for when we have pitlords) or are they non-events due to the stress they are putting on our resources at the moment? (And thus, I can resume rotating those two characters with my other characters, as is my standard habit)I think you can safely assume that those attacks just won't happen. If we do decide to have them happen later, we'll deal with it then, but in the meantime, your characters are freed up. |
| TelinArtho09-12-07, 05:55 PM | So in a random question; What's happening with the Denthian attacks? Are they going to be resolved eventually (should I continue to have my two characters on hold, waiting for when we have pitlords) or are they non-events due to the stress they are putting on our resources at the moment? (And thus, I can resume rotating those two characters with my other characters, as is my standard habit) At the moment, they are permanently suspended - so go ahead and restore your characters to whatever active duty you want. @Erithmu - tactics for Dentik vs Xanaver have been sent. Good luck to my opponent. I'm also ready to move on with Berri when you are. |
| lonewolf09-12-07, 05:57 PM | callix: self-destructing-tactics for verren sent. he'll get shot down, i'm sure about that. I have to agree. :schemes: Tactics for Darian are also sent. |
| Salrantol09-12-07, 06:03 PM | So what happens with three characters with no darkvision and no means of generating light? Can they agree to fight in normal light? |
| lonewolf09-12-07, 06:06 PM | So what happens with three characters with no darkvision and no means of generating light? Can they agree to fight in normal light? An annoyed pitlord. Thats what happens. :rolleyes: |
| templer1009-12-07, 06:09 PM | Question - with +6 In knowladge religion - which is in the 1+ rank area - Size, Type, Description (huge magical beast with many heads) - i was told iam facing a Medium undead - do i deserve to be Told if it's Corporeal or not? i think so since it's Both "type" (or at least subtype) - and Also i from dexcription i can learn it - I.E - if it's incorporeal it should read something like Medium Transpernt Undead or some such - i have had several pitlords in the past describe incorporeal creatures like that with similar or less knowladge. I |
| templer1009-12-07, 06:11 PM | So what happens with three characters with no darkvision and no means of generating light? Can they agree to fight in normal light? Ill Bump that since i didnt check what iam pitlording but iam sure it's Bound to happen - since Pitlording a fight in which i need to do a 50% full concealment roll for every action.... Not my idia of fun. |
| Eamane09-12-07, 06:13 PM | Ill Bump that since i didnt check what iam pitlording but iam sure it's Bound to happen - since Pitlording a fight in which i need to do a 50% full concealment roll for every action.... Not my idia of fun. Well, what Lonewolf said basically. They stumble around in the dark trying to find each-other, then have a hell of a time hitting each-other once they do find each-other. And honestly, it's their own fault. The lightning has been effect for several weeks and they could have made an emergency purchase of light generating items in the middle of a 3FC, as per COCOs policy on rules-changes. Re: Undead Incorporeal is not a type, it's a subtype. If the player has enough knowledge to know the subtype, he'll know if it's corporeal or incorporeal, if not, then not. Subtype starts at DC+5, iirc. |
| Salrantol09-12-07, 06:15 PM | As an alternative, could all characters involved be allowed an "emergency" purchase of the darkness-defeating device of their choice? |
| Rauul09-12-07, 06:17 PM | @Erithmu tactics Send for Shadow vs Tiris Rush... Niqil.. i don't know what your gonna do with an elf thats blind in the forest... Shadow will except a Surrender :) |
| Salrantol09-12-07, 06:18 PM | Well, what Lonewolf said basically. They stumble around in the dark trying to find each-other, then have a hell of a time hitting each-other once they do find each-other. And honestly, it's their own fault. The lightning has been effect for several weeks and they could have made an emergency purchase of light generating items in the middle of a 3FC, as per COCOs policy on rules-changes.We probably all thought the same thing: Let the other guy buy the light so we can see him to kill him... Actually, I'm realizing that I'm confusing both my psionic characters--one of whom used her powerstone of Touchsight in her last fight... ...and the other one didn't. I suddenly started liking the pitch dark a lot more. |
| Rauul09-12-07, 06:19 PM | So what happens with three characters with no darkvision and no means of generating light? Can they agree to fight in normal light? hate to say it... but you could of done what shadow did... Extended Darkvision costs 150gp and lasts 10 hours... cheap skates... be thankful Shadow isn't in that FFA.. :) |
| templer1009-12-07, 06:20 PM | And honestly, it's their own fault. The lightning has been effect for several weeks and they could have made an emergency purchase of light generating items in the middle of a 3FC, as per COCOs policy on rules-changes. Re: Undead Incorporeal is not a type, it's a subtype. If the player has enough knowledge to know the subtype, he'll know if it's corporeal or incorporeal, if not, then not. Subtype starts at DC+5, iirc. Regarding lighteing - if all chars involded in a fight agree to fight in normal light i dont see the harm - forcing black conditions does nthing but annoy the pitlord. regarding undead - didnt notice the subtype thing you are right - But Being incorporeal is pretty obvios and i think should be reflected in the description - i.e. transperent or see through or soem other similar expression. p.s. - I just noticed iam Pitlording that inter league in which 2 out of 3 dont have any way to 2 see - Somebody shoot me please...:raincloud |
| lonewolf09-12-07, 06:25 PM | @templer: tactics for Therador are sent. Also I am still waiting for The Chameleons victim monster. ;) |
| Rauul09-12-07, 06:31 PM | p.s. - I just noticed iam Pitlording that inter league in which 2 out of 3 dont have any way to 2 see - Somebody shoot me please...:raincloud :evillaugh :banghead: :f: Actually they can just surrender..and save their pps till next fight... |
| templer1009-12-07, 06:33 PM | @templer: tactics for Therador are sent. Also I am still waiting for The Chameleons victim monster. ;) HA - didnt notice - monster is rolled - no knowldage - 3 Large Monsters (for the life of me i cant find a better description that would fit). p.s. - God a sneak in the dark... shoot me again. |
| lonewolf09-12-07, 06:40 PM | HA - didnt notice - monster is rolled - no knowldage - 3 Large Monsters (for the life of me i cant find a better description that would fit). p.s. - God a sneak in the dark... shoot me again. With or without greater psionic shot? :angelhide |
| NiQil09-12-07, 10:12 PM | @ the pitlords for my fights: Please surrender my characters. I am stepping away from character activation for a bit as I am not really happy with how things have transpired lately, and it has become not fun for me. I just forgot to edit my characters to non-active status before pairings. I'll still be around, just not activating characters for awhile. Need to step away and recharge the batteries, or I will get aggravated and decide to leave altogether. @ MWB: Please retire the ECL 5 characters I have. Leave the ECL 3, as I have a credit investment there....she just won't get played for awhile. But the others need to go away. |
| Eamane09-12-07, 11:18 PM | @ the pitlords for my fights: Please surrender my characters. I am stepping away from character activation for a bit as I am not really happy with how things have transpired lately, and it has become not fun for me. I just forgot to edit my characters to non-active status before pairings. I'll still be around, just not activating characters for awhile. Need to step away and recharge the batteries, or I will get aggravated and decide to leave altogether. Come back when you are recharged man, we'll be waiting. All speed and have fun. |
| Erithmu09-13-07, 12:14 AM | @ECL5s ... Hold off on writing your tactics ... I think Pitlords can sort that out into 2 clean fights. @MWB: I would love to cut down one fight, and the ECL 5 bracket would be nice ... next 7 days are looking rough. |
| Vathelokai09-13-07, 12:48 AM | @Tarreus_D: Tactics for Tweak vs 2-Fist are in you PM box. |
| Rauul09-13-07, 01:59 AM | @ the pitlords for my fights: Please surrender my characters. I am stepping away from character activation for a bit as I am not really happy with how things have transpired lately, and it has become not fun for me. I just forgot to edit my characters to non-active status before pairings. I'll still be around, just not activating characters for awhile. Need to step away and recharge the batteries, or I will get aggravated and decide to leave altogether. Dude, take some downtime.. we all need it sometimes.. then come back cause you know my half-elf misses your ranger... even if he is an elf.. |
| Rauul09-13-07, 02:08 AM | @ECL5s ... Hold off on writing your tactics ... I think Pitlords can sort that out into 2 clean fights. @MWB: I would love to cut down one fight, and the ECL 5 bracket would be nice ... next 7 days are looking rough. Easiest would be to remove Niqil's 3, and make it Wisp vs Shadow in the temple.. and then the FFA turns into a 1 vs 1 match.. Main problem i see is that 2 of the ECL 5's were ready for the Pitch Darkness.. the the rest weren't.. and those 1 happen to be a sneak? I think we will start seeing some ECL 5 extended Darkvisions being sold soon... :) |
| MindWandererB09-13-07, 04:16 AM | @ECL5s ... Hold off on writing your tactics ... I think Pitlords can sort that out into 2 clean fights. @MWB: I would love to cut down one fight, and the ECL 5 bracket would be nice ... next 7 days are looking rough. Yeah, easy enough. Felice tu'Ria (Salrantol) vs. Slade Tungsten (Sjiggie) : templer10 [Arena] Wisp (c00lz3) vs. The shadow (Rauul) : whitebaron [Forest] 'Rith and templer, -1 credit each. |
| lonewolf09-13-07, 04:33 AM | HA - didnt notice - monster is rolled - no knowldage - 3 Large Monsters (for the life of me i cant find a better description that would fit). Can I assume then that those things are neither biped nor quadruped? @Telin: Samuels tactics are away. A ghost in the pitch black sewers. Im loving it. :evillaugh |
| Rauul09-13-07, 05:51 AM | @whitebaron Shadows tactics sent.. Don't know what the blind halfling will do in the forest... Shadow will accept a Surrender (finally found a psion without touchsight) |
| Callix09-13-07, 05:54 AM | Is anyone else having problems with the LoS generator? I keep getting 404's. |
| templer1009-13-07, 05:56 AM | Can I assume then that those things are neither biped nor quadruped? @Telin: Samuels tactics are away. A ghost in the pitch black sewers. Im loving it. :evillaugh they aren't quaduped - cant tell you more then that/ |
| Callix09-13-07, 06:50 AM | Darian Thorne vs Verren FireStarter is up. (http://forums.gleemax.com/showpost.php?p=13764600&postcount=1310) Well, you guys did warn me... Xuan Sunai's tactics recieved, just waiting on Nemion's. @Eamane, Whitebaron: Tactics for Rennae and Petyr sent. Petyr's should be quick, but Rennae's... sorry, Eamane. |
| whitebaron09-13-07, 07:36 AM | Darian Thorne vs Verren FireStarter is up. (http://forums.gleemax.com/showpost.php?p=13764600&postcount=1310) Well, you guys did warn me... well, nothing unexpected. |
| lonewolf09-13-07, 07:50 AM | Darian Thorne vs Verren FireStarter is up. (http://forums.gleemax.com/showpost.php?p=13764600&postcount=1310) Well, you guys did warn me... Thanks for running. |
| templer1009-13-07, 08:10 AM | Telin - tactics for lord lorian are sent, iam just cursed with incorporeal types this week... |
| hogarth09-13-07, 08:46 AM | @TelinArtho: monster info for Ialgo -- 4 medium non-bipeds |
| whitebaron09-13-07, 09:35 AM | tactics sent for my other chars... |
| TelinArtho09-13-07, 09:54 AM | Ialgo's tactics have been sent. |
| Erithmu09-13-07, 10:51 AM | @Eamane: Tactics for myself are away. |
| Macbrea09-13-07, 11:37 AM | Tactics sent for Yorick in the dark! |
| hogarth09-13-07, 01:01 PM | Tactics sent for Reginald Molehusband (et al.) vs. Yorick. |
| hogarth09-13-07, 03:38 PM | Ialgo vs. 4 lamers lemures is complete. |
| TelinArtho09-13-07, 03:47 PM | Looks like I got an extra round out of my Spiritual weapon there (4th level - so there should be a total of 4 attacks maximum (assuming I get in one attack per round)). That does mean that it takes a little longer to knock down the third one and gives them a bunch more attacks. |
| Rauul09-13-07, 04:08 PM | Tactics sent for Yorick in the dark! is Yorick feeling the loven... :) |
| Taureus_Drakken09-14-07, 12:08 AM | Tactics received so far: - Gwerdan (whitebaron) - Tweak (Vathelokai) - Dajeus (Eamane) ¬Taureus¬ |
| lonewolf09-14-07, 03:44 AM | @templer: The Chameleons tactics are sent. |
| templer1009-14-07, 06:29 AM | Telin - tactics for elrick and Kervan in the adventure called - Ghost Busters, revenge of the ghost are out. |
| Sjiggie09-14-07, 08:01 AM | Tactics for Slade Thungsten and Xanavar Valassar are sent |
| Macbrea09-14-07, 08:07 AM | Well, the Derro does have some advantages in the complete darkness. Though, against a griffon he may have a problem as once it finally gets hold of him the fight would be over. |
| hogarth09-14-07, 08:27 AM | Well, the Derro does have some advantages in the complete darkness. Though, against a griffon he may have a problem as once it finally gets hold of him the fight would be over. Yorick's darkvision range is 60', the same as Reginald's touchsight range. I think it's kind of a wash. We'll have to wait and see. |
| c00lz309-14-07, 10:30 AM | I almost missed the fight change. I don't have time to make tactics & I wold like to request more time and will have something around 8-9pm (PST) today. |
| whitebaron09-14-07, 10:42 AM | I almost missed the fight change. I don't have time to make tactics & I wold like to request more time and will have something around 8-9pm (PST) today. make sure your tactics are with me before midnight(PST) or else you'll lose. this is about the time i stand up here in europe, and since i don't know when i will be running fights this weekend, it might as well be in the morning. |
| hogarth09-14-07, 02:33 PM | Looks like I got an extra round out of my Spiritual weapon there (4th level - so there should be a total of 4 attacks maximum (assuming I get in one attack per round)). That does mean that it takes a little longer to knock down the third one and gives them a bunch more attacks. Edited in some more claw attacks. The results didn't change. |
| Erithmu09-14-07, 05:46 PM | Dentik vs Xanaver is up ... Can tell you how hard it was not to type Valanthe the whole fight ... |
| whitebaron09-14-07, 05:49 PM | Snaga vs Petyr is up. This fight is what happens, when both rely on one main tactic, and hustle for the rest. :) btw: how many rounds does it take for a fight between a wizard with sleep(cdg opponent) that can be killed with one shot by his opponent? 15! :) |
| templer1009-14-07, 06:25 PM | Brother ryu vs 3 Level 2 astral constructs is up (http://forums.gleemax.com/showpost.php?p=13782231&postcount=1314) - dice gods ftw. |
| Callix09-14-07, 07:02 PM | Xuan Sunai vs Nemion is up. (http://forums.gleemax.com/showpost.php?p=13783421&postcount=1315) What can I say? Ouch, I guess. @Whitebaron: Sleep is a full-round action. Snaga can't move for cover, so I could get a shot in round 5. In round 7, Petyr still has Offensive Prescience up. Also, rifles have a x3 crit modifier. Still, Petyr had the dice gods on his side, and I'll wear 3 charges of CLW unless The Dread Dormammu has something else he wants edited. None of these except the early attack could affect the result, as both attacks killed even with low damage. These comments are for future reference only. |
| Sjiggie09-14-07, 07:55 PM | Dentik vs Xanaver is up ... Can tell you how hard it was not to type Valanthe the whole fight ... I can see it in the result sblock its Xanavar not Vanaxer ;) Thanks for the run. |
| hogarth09-14-07, 08:23 PM | Brother ryu vs 3 Level 2 astral constructs is up (http://forums.gleemax.com/showpost.php?p=13782231&postcount=1314) - dice gods ftw. Thanks for the run! He wasn't quite as unhittable as I had hoped... :) |
| TelinArtho09-14-07, 09:08 PM | Dentik vs Xanaver is up ... Can tell you how hard it was not to type Valanthe the whole fight ... Three things - Dentik's tactics called for using the second hold person as well before trying to engage in melee/ranged. Also - I asked to move behind cover and kneel. This means that Dentik's AC is 25 and the confirmed arrow to finish off Dentik doesn't confirm. Also, I think the hit in round 8 misses. I think you mismarked him on hp though between round 6 and round 7 - so Dentik is down to 26 in round 7. |
| Erithmu09-15-07, 01:30 AM | Three things - Dentik's tactics called for using the second hold person as well before trying to engage in melee/ranged. Also - I asked to move behind cover and kneel. This means that Dentik's AC is 25 and the confirmed arrow to finish off Dentik doesn't confirm. Also, I think the hit in round 8 misses. I think you mismarked him on hp though between round 6 and round 7 - so Dentik is down to 26 in round 7. Missed the 2nd hold person (was three words long after I just wrote an 8 page paper.) Missed the kneeling Damage is a paste error ... Sjiggie if you have anything to add lemme know I'll probably get to it sometime tomorrow afternoon PST. |
| whitebaron09-15-07, 05:05 AM | @Whitebaron: Sleep is a full-round action. Snaga can't move for cover, so I could get a shot in round 5. In round 7, Petyr still has Offensive Prescience up. Also, rifles have a x3 crit modifier. Still, Petyr had the dice gods on his side, and I'll wear 3 charges of CLW unless The Dread Dormammu has something else he wants edited. None of these except the early attack could affect the result, as both attacks killed even with low damage. These comments are for future reference only. on closer look, it's even worse than that - its "1 round" - which means sleep is far worse than i remembered. i'm not sure when invisibility ends - i think it is after the casting is done and the effect has hit. but: with clear words spoken nearby, peytr would have a nice shot to know on what is happening, and would prepare in his round. i can edit the fight to end it in round 5/6 if you want me to do so. spares expendables and the poor Aiewaie. (but actually, i like it as it is, more action :D) |
| Callix09-15-07, 06:23 AM | Whitebaron: Don't worry about editing the fight. It's fine as it is. If I'd lost, I might've stuck to my guns, but as it is, it's fine. It's certainly an interesting fight the way you describe it. I just thought I'd mention the things I noticed to avoid the same mistakes cropping up in later fights. |
| whitebaron09-16-07, 09:00 AM | wisp vs shadow is up. took quite long. there is not much you can do blinded in the forest, but wisp did all he could and proved, that you not necessarily need sight - but it would have helped much. |
| hogarth09-16-07, 09:39 AM | wisp vs shadow is up. took quite long. there is not much you can do blinded in the forest, but wisp did all he could and proved, that you not necessarily need sight - but it would have helped much. Comment #1: An Energy Wall is immobile; it doesn't move with the manifester! Comment #2: An Energy Wall is opaque, so it grants Wisp total concealment when he's behind it. I think his plan was to hide behind the total concealment of the wall and hope that Shadow would be forced to move in to attack him in melee. Sounds a bit dubious to me, though. |
| whitebaron09-16-07, 11:26 AM | well, what can i say - never used psionics much. but: in that case, wisp will loose due to delaying the game. shadow can avoid that by firing at Psi - which is something that will be even more outside of what c00lze wanted to get. i don't even know why i had to run this fight... sight vs no sight should be clear result. and total concealment.. well, not much use when you don't damage your opponent. |
| templer1009-16-07, 12:27 PM | well, what can i say - never used psionics much. but: in that case, wisp will loose due to delaying the game. shadow can avoid that by firing at Psi - which is something that will be even more outside of what c00lze wanted to get. i don't even know why i had to run this fight... sight vs no sight should be clear result. and total concealment.. well, not much use when you don't damage your opponent. True - but if you think 24 rounds is long.... Are you in for a suprise when you start running higher level fights lol. |
| lonewolf09-16-07, 12:34 PM | True - but if you think 24 rounds is long.... Are you in for a suprise when you start running higher level fights lol. Actually, in my experience lower level fights tend to take more rounds, while higher level fights have fewer rounds, with each round taking much longer to pitlord. |
| whitebaron09-16-07, 12:49 PM | True - but if you think 24 rounds is long.... Are you in for a suprise when you start running higher level fights lol. if its casters, that is definitely not true. the higher it gets in dnd, the more it's save or die. (except your characters of course *G*) @lonewolf: yes, as can be seen in our weekly rounds. get ready for a 4h fight this thursday ;) |
| templer1009-16-07, 12:51 PM | Actually, in my experience lower level fights tend to take more rounds, while higher level fights have fewer rounds, with each round taking much longer to pitlord. Said the guy who runs 2 sneaks at ECL 11 and 12 (well one and a half sneaks) iam not looking forward towrds chamelon vs 3 guardian nagas... (i think it was guardian - dont remmber- it's writeen for me somewhere). |
| hogarth09-16-07, 01:06 PM | Said the guy who runs 2 sneaks at ECL 11 and 12 (well one and a half sneaks) iam not looking forward towrds chamelon vs 3 guardian nagas... (i think it was guardian - dont remmber- it's writeen for me somewhere). It's the "all defense, no offense" fights that take a long time (whether that defense is sneakiness, high AC/DR, incorporealness, or whatever). |
| lonewolf09-16-07, 01:08 PM | Said the guy who runs 2 sneaks at ECL 11 and 12 (well one and a half sneaks) iam not looking forward towrds chamelon vs 3 guardian nagas... (i think it was guardian - dont remmber- it's writeen for me somewhere). Should be dark nagas then. Of the options I saw on the monster List with 3 large monsters those were my favourite opponents. :D |
| templer1009-16-07, 01:25 PM | It's the "all defense, no offense" fights that take a long time (whether that defense is sneakiness, high AC/DR, incorporealness, or whatever). the one thing ill never ever do here is make a sneak - i hate running them so much i wont subject them on anyone else. |
| templer1009-16-07, 01:26 PM | Should be dark nagas then. Of the options I saw on the monster List with 3 large monsters those were my favourite opponents. :D and MEN are you lucky we had those monsters with regual spells ends the way we did last time Or i would have picked VERY diffrent spells then the craploads they get. |
| whitebaron09-16-07, 01:29 PM | the one thing ill never ever do here is make a sneak - i hate running them so much i wont subject them on anyone else. just make sure the sneak has much damage output, then it's ok, i guess ;) |
| lonewolf09-16-07, 02:14 PM | @templer: I hope to reach you before you start running the fight: Nagas dont have hands and thus are unable to use scrolls or potions. The only expendables they can use are tatoos. |
| templer1009-16-07, 02:26 PM | @templer: I hope to reach you before you start running the fight: Nagas dont have hands and thus are unable to use scrolls or potions. The only expendables they can use are tatoos. Hmm i think they can with predestigation (scrolls anyway) But it's fairly unimportent - ill trade them for apporpirate tattoes (defensive precog ml2 and inertial armor ML1). |
| whitebaron09-16-07, 02:28 PM | Hmm i think they can with predestigation (scrolls anyway) But it's fairly unimportent - ill trade them for apporpirate tattoes (defensive precog ml2 and inertial armor ML1). you can't use prestidigitation to carry scrolls. its in the coco rulings. ;) |
| Rauul09-16-07, 02:31 PM | wisp vs shadow is up. took quite long. there is not much you can do blinded in the forest, but wisp did all he could and proved, that you not necessarily need sight - but it would have helped much. thank you for the run... Oviously i have no complaints.. But if you have to edit it.. please add the 1d6 snipe damage from the Bow (if within 30 ft) and remeber if he can't see me or hear me (has no clue where i am shooting from) he should be flatfooted for ac.. :) Edit=> i will wait to see if Wisp has any problems before i update Shadow.. who will if the win stands.. move to ecl 6, start assassin.. and will have to go on a leadership quest.. (alot of work) |
| templer1009-16-07, 02:37 PM | Hmm - chamelon has hide in plain sight and he wants to do an attack then move to avoid the -20 penalty for the hide afterwards - iam pretty sure that's not possible since even if he isnt technicly sniping almost at the very top of the hide skill it say: "It’s practically impossible (-20 penalty) to hide while attacking, running or charging." |
| lonewolf09-16-07, 02:44 PM | I dont hide while attacking. I attack and hide afterwards. It has the downside of becoming visible for a moment, but in return dont incurr the -20 penalty. But if you want to snipe instead I accept against those enemies. :rolleyes: |
| templer1009-16-07, 03:00 PM | I dont hide while attacking. I attack and hide afterwards. It has the downside of becoming visible for a moment, but in return dont incurr the -20 penalty. But if you want to snipe instead I accept against those enemies. :rolleyes: YOu are going to snipe in about 1-2 rounds after engagement since they are readying for you But they will need some kind of luck to spot you later... just pray they dont roll all 20's on those ready actions at first... |
| hogarth09-16-07, 03:01 PM | Hmm - chamelon has hide in plain sight and he wants to do an attack then move to avoid the -20 penalty for the hide afterwards - iam pretty sure that's not possible since even if he isnt technicly sniping almost at the very top of the hide skill it say: "It’s practically impossible (-20 penalty) to hide while attacking, running or charging." As lonewolf said, he isn't trying to snipe. He's trying to attack, then run away. |
| c00lz309-16-07, 03:06 PM | I have a few questions. Why does my torch suddenly end in round 9 they last 1hr a bit silly with naked he doesn't need to use all his cloths. energy wall is DC19 fort for half (from animal affinity) round 14 damage is off if i create it where he it does damage if passing though it. round 19+ he actually failed his save once he is spoted by wisp he could only hide if he move more than 40" away Also in his tactics he doesn't mention his wand of cure light wounds at all, nor is it in general tactics so why would he use it in the first place? I might have missed it but I don't see it anywhere. He doesn't mention anything you quoted anywhere. |
| whitebaron09-16-07, 03:47 PM | I have a few questions. Why does my torch suddenly end in round 9 they last 1hr a bit silly with naked he doesn't need to use all his cloths. you are not supposed to make torches at all from clothes. ever tried to burn clothes? it doesn't work so well. so be glad i even gave you an improvised torch. if you want a proper torch, buy one. energy wall is DC19 fort for half (from animal affinity) his saves were 7, 21, 20. were do you see the mistake? round 14 damage is off if i create it where he it does damage if passing though it. it is a 10ft circle, so if he is inside, its not created where he is. you are blinded. - be greatful that you can actually cast then. but if you want me to, i'll edit it and shadow will most likely use another charge of his wand, but changes nothing else in the fight. round 19+ he actually failed his save no. the rolls in round 19 and 15 were deleted since it was pointed out to me, that you have only one save vs every effect. so his real saves are in round 14, 18 and 23 for the corresponding energy walls. once he is spoted by wisp he could only hide if he move more than 40" away this is just plain wrong. he has concealment, according to the map description, so he can hide anywhere in the dark green squares, even if wisp or psi are nearby. Also in his tactics he doesn't mention his wand of cure light wounds at all, nor is it in general tactics so why would he use it in the first place? I might have missed it but I don't see it anywhere. He doesn't mention anything you quoted anywhere. since his sheet says to use any expendables and item necessary, i asked him via pm if this includes his wand. i posted his reply in the fight. i did some mistakes in this fight, but i'd say that a blind psion in the forest, even with a psicrystal nearby, won't be much more than cannon fodder. if you want me to change the fight, declare so, but a) i won't change the torch since you don't have one. b) i'll start at the moment you manifest outbound energy wall c) i'll have shadow shoot psi instead of you, since you are hiding and he won't likely get into the energy walls range, since you are delaying the fight, not him. thank you for the run... Oviously i have no complaints.. But if you have to edit it.. please add the 1d6 snipe damage from the Bow (if within 30 ft) and remeber if he can't see me or hear me (has no clue where i am shooting from) he should be flatfooted for ac.. :) the first shot wasn't within sneak range, all others (= the one hit :D) have actually the 1d6 included note that a blind opponent cannot be flatfooted, as he looses his dex to ac, as well gets -2 penalty anyway. so his ac17 is correct, and its the same as being flat-footed. |
| templer1009-16-07, 03:53 PM | chamelon murders some poor naga's here (http://forums.gleemax.com/showpost.php?p=13803361&postcount=1318). |
| c00lz309-16-07, 04:16 PM | I see. I use the torch tactic before and had no problems, but it seems you want me at a disadvantage. It might be hard to light cloths, but with all the sticks in the forest and my items I just figured it would work. The adding to tactics part is fishy but he couldn't know to use it untill after moving out of the ring 21hp is not half. Fallowing his new tactics he wouldn't move back till next round & this could change the fight. The energy wall dealing damage if they passed tough could never happen then unless they were large+ creatures is that correct? I have always though different but I could be wrong. If he is seen even with concealment he can't hide. It doesn't apply as he move out of sighted range though. Comments like you should be glad to.. & cannonfodder make me think you have some bias toward me, not to mention your comments at the end of the fight. It makes me feel as though you don't like me. I would really like you to take another look and maby ask others on makeshift torches. |
| whitebaron09-16-07, 05:32 PM | I see. I use the torch tactic before and had no problems, but it seems you want me at a disadvantage. It might be hard to light cloths, but with all the sticks in the forest and my items I just figured it would work. right. you have no torch and want to create one out of thin air, using wood from the forest (which you would have to find, in pitch black) then peel them, use them for a torch (which doesnt even provide something close to a torch btw) and that in 6 seconds? not even the elitest of boyscouts could do that. that's why i would do it like i did any time again. it simply is not fair, to assume you can do a torch like that. buying torches won't ruin you, and your encumberance is no good excuse either - one torch per fight doesn't kill you, especially with bag of holding. The adding to tactics part is fishy but he couldn't know to use it untill after moving out of the ring 21hp is not half. Fallowing his new tactics he wouldn't move back till next round & this could change the fight. i added nothing to tactics. i just wanted to know what to do if he gets hurt, if i should use his wand or not. i asked, he answered. since it is at the pitlords discretion to decide when nothing was given in the tactics, i decided to move out of the area effect, since staying within it would mean death soon. no sneak would stay there - just retreat and sneak to the fight afterwards again. after all, that's what this build is all about. The energy wall dealing damage if they passed tough could never happen then unless they were large+ creatures is that correct? I have always though different but I could be wrong. As i said, you could do it that way. i can add the 5 damage if you want me to. changes the amount of wand charges shadow used, if nothing else. If he is seen even with concealment he can't hide. It doesn't apply as he move out of sighted range though. ok, i checked, and it seems you are right with that. since shadow can outmove the psicrystal anytime, and go behind the trees each time, he will always be able to hide. just because i didn't do it, doesn't mean you'll win the fight by me doing so. Comments like you should be glad to.. & cannonfodder make me think you have some bias toward me, not to mention your comments at the end of the fight. It makes me feel as though you don't like me. There are quite some things i don't like, but you are not on that list (yet). Things i don't like above all are impoliteness, and sore losers. I would really like you to take another look and maby ask others on makeshift torches. since i'm a bit of a pyromaniac myself, i won't ask anyone else for opinions on improvised torches. with normal oil, bandages and a stick, you can do one in about 1-2 minutes. if you lessen the time to do so, you risk serious injury to yourself and bad damage to your clothes. |
| Eluria09-16-07, 06:32 PM | @ Sjiggie: I'm just checking to see that you know you were assigned to pitlord the held over fight from last week again; I didn't see any post confirming tactics (obviously, since we sent them to you last week), but it's Sunday night and I see there's no session/set-up posted. Are you going to be able to get to that fight this week? I'd hate to have it held over to a 3rd week if at all possible. |
| Sjiggie09-16-07, 06:45 PM | I know I know but I usually wait to post sheets and tactics till the fight is done so that I can post it in 1 post without editting everything. Expect the fight tomorrow to be done |
| Eluria09-16-07, 07:22 PM | Comments like you should be glad to.. & cannonfodder make me think you have some bias toward me, not to mention your comments at the end of the fight. It makes me feel as though you don't like me. I would really like you to take another look and maby ask others on makeshift torches. right. you have no torch and want to create one out of thin air, using wood from the forest (which you would have to find, in pitch black) then peel them, use them for a torch (which doesnt even provide something close to a torch btw) and that in 6 seconds? not even the elitest of boyscouts could do that. that's why i would do it like i did any time again. it simply is not fair, to assume you can do a torch like that. buying torches won't ruin you, and your encumberance is no good excuse either - one torch per fight doesn't kill you, especially with bag of holding. ... since i'm a bit of a pyromaniac myself, i won't ask anyone else for opinions on improvised torches. with normal oil, bandages and a stick, you can do one in about 1-2 minutes. if you lessen the time to do so, you risk serious injury to yourself and bad damage to your clothes. You know, NiQil is stepping away because of some of the attitude changes around here. I'm not a huge participant in CoCo (I honestly wish I could do more, and really respect the hard work all the pitlords do), but some of the tone here is really sad, and bordering on hateful. Coolz told you straight out that you were making it feel as you don't like him, and appealed for you to gather other people's opinions. It doesn't hurt to do so; no one has a perfect knowledge of the rules, and bringing in real life experience is absolutely no substitute for discussion. Whether a pyromaniac or not in real life, you certainly haven't summoned monsters or called lightning or cleaved someone with a sword; D&D has very specific rules abstractions for covering things that occur in the game, and they're (rarely) drawn on real-life physics and things like that. I think everyone should always try to remember that the point of CoCo, and D&D, is to have fun. It's a game. You're pitlording a fight for a character, and he's bravely pointing out how awful you're making him feel; try to be a little empathic, please. Maybe tone things down? We're a cute little community, and people should remember that everyone chose to be here to have fun and because the love this game. I really enjoy seeing new people posting, and when I see exchanges like the above, I just want to stop also... |
| c00lz309-16-07, 07:28 PM | After much thought I have decided I would like to avoid contact with you as much as possible its one thing to say someone is wrong but your comments are plain rude. The whole thing seems wrong, opponet suggest being paired with me then asked me if I want to surrender & then your comments. I came back after a long hiatus for a reason, but maby I came back to soon. |
| Rauul09-16-07, 08:08 PM | Woah step back both of you... Honestly i was surprised at the improvised torch tactics.. if i was the Pitlord/DM i would of asked for a dc 20 survival check to make one, and a Full round action.. each round till a improvised torch (15 minutes of use) is made.. (only dc 20 because you have 0 ranks in survival.. otherwise it would of been dc 20- every rank you have)..(this would also be a dc 0 listen check for someone to find him..as he crashes into everything feeling for a stick to be used ect.. ) Remember in the pitch black your 100% blind, and even a psicrystal can speak to you telepathically don't give you sight.. I am under the same impression that NiQil was/is with default tactics.. they should be used.. Just because i am medicated isn't an excuse.. but my default tactics does say use any and all items, and do what needs to be done to win at any cost.. this is just my 2 cents... will let you 2 decide what is right or wrong.. i dun really care if i win or loose.. also Shadows singing is 111gp, 1sp, 5cp not 11 gp and some copper.. LOL |
| Rauul09-16-07, 08:12 PM | After much thought I have decided I would like to avoid contact with you as much as possible its one thing to say someone is wrong but your comments are plain rude. The whole thing seems wrong, opponet suggest being paired with me then asked me if I want to surrender & then your comments. I came back after a long hiatus for a reason, but maby I came back to soon. Hey i suggested it after Niqil pulled out his characters... I would of rather of been in the FFA .. if you remember i even asked NiQil if he wanted to surrender.. this was mainly because this is the first week of PITCH BLACK lighting and only 2 ecl 5 charaters where prepared for it.. |
| Erithmu09-16-07, 08:45 PM | Dentik vs Xanaver is up ... Can tell you how hard it was not to type Valanthe the whole fight ...Three things - Dentik's tactics called for using the second hold person as well before trying to engage in melee/ranged. Also - I asked to move behind cover and kneel. This means that Dentik's AC is 25 and the confirmed arrow to finish off Dentik doesn't confirm. Also, I think the hit in round 8 misses. I think you mismarked him on hp though between round 6 and round 7 - so Dentik is down to 26 in round 7.Fight edited with changes ... result changed. |
| TelinArtho09-16-07, 10:37 PM | Thank you for the edit. That's the first time Hold person worked for Dentik... I was half expecting it to work and have him break free before I could do anything about it. As to the current issue about the homemade torch - I do have a comment to make. I have seen some recent tactics make use of "creative" items in order to catch an opponent off guard. I'm not going to single anyone out on this (though the torch might be the driving point of this), but I want to stress that the fights in the CoCo are not about catching your opponent off-guard. Everything you have at your disposal should be plain as day and available on your sheet. If you do attempt to do something that is untested, unquestioned - you should probably prepare yourself for a pitlord ruling for and against you. If your tactics hinge upon this creative tactic - they can be completely invalidated because the pitlord overrules your interpretation. The solution therefore is to a) ask about the creative tactic before hand - in the open air or b) include alternative tactics without the creative item in case the pitlord disagrees. It is completely within whitebaron's rights as a pitlord to make that call. For what its worth, I even agree with it (I probably would've simply said no - rather than give a 1 minute duration). I don't agree with the colored comments that have been issued since - but I do know that tempers/emotions can get raised. I urge you both to take a step back (as has been suggested), and take a deep breath. |
| lonewolf09-17-07, 01:33 AM | For what its worth: whitebaron asked me about my opinion about the improvised torch, and I agreed with him. I also wouldnt have allowed it at all. If you want a torch, buy it. And blaming whitebaron for beeing the only one who is rude after that wondrous exampler for a passive aggressive post of c00lz3 isnt really helping either. People should remember that editing fights is by no means the right of the players, but a favor of the pitlords, especially if the problem in question is not a clear mistake but a problem that requires rules interpretation. |
| Sjiggie09-17-07, 07:38 AM | Fight edited with changes ... result changed. Nothing Xanavar could do about the second Hold Person even with empty mind but could you change the xp/gp awards for Dentik and Xanavar. |
| Erithmu09-17-07, 09:11 AM | Nothing Xanavar could do about the second Hold Person even with empty mind but could you change the xp/gp awards for Dentik and Xanavar. ... Right ... fixed |
| TelinArtho09-17-07, 02:39 PM | Lord Lorian (templer10) vs 3 Ghost Fighter 5 (Unknown Monster) is up. Looks like I might have trouble finishing my other fights this week. I'll post up the tactics and sheets and work on them as I can. Once the initial posts are up - they are up for grabs by anyone. I will be updating the campaign after that. EDIT: Kervan and Elrick sheets Samuel's sheet and tactics for all three Yorick vs Reginald - sheets and tactics |
| templer1009-17-07, 03:50 PM | Malik vs theodor is done and here (http://forums.gleemax.com/showpost.php?p=13814006&postcount=1321) - the messege of the day - dont underestimate your opponent. |
| lonewolf09-17-07, 05:21 PM | Malik vs theodor is done and here (http://forums.gleemax.com/showpost.php?p=13814006&postcount=1321) - the messege of the day - dont underestimate your opponent. :w00t: :dancin: Thanks for running. It seems that Im lucky this week. |
| Eamane09-18-07, 02:48 AM | Erithmu Darkmane vs An Adult Arrowhawk and Cockatrice is up here (http://forums.gleemax.com/showpost.php?p=13758777&postcount=1309). |
| lonewolf09-18-07, 02:53 AM | Malik vs theodor is done and here (http://forums.gleemax.com/showpost.php?p=13814006&postcount=1321) - the messege of the day - dont underestimate your opponent. @templer: For future fights, when attacking with ranged weapons into a grapple: Roll randomly to see which grappling combatant you strike. That defender loses any Dexterity bonus to AC. obviously it doesnt make any difference in this fight. |
| templer1009-18-07, 03:01 AM | @templer: For future fights, when attacking with ranged weapons into a grapple: obviously it doesnt make any difference in this fight. i keep forgetting that... well he would have done lance then - doesnt matter. |
| Erithmu09-18-07, 09:11 AM | Erithmu Darkmane vs An Adult Arrowhawk and Cockatrice is up here (http://forums.gleemax.com/showpost.php?p=13758777&postcount=1309). Thanks for the run. Two easy things: - Political Career bonus: -> 2160xp/2400gp - Magic Vestment was cast in the fight so it should have just under 6 hrs remaning not 1hr. CWI = Craft wondrous Item |
| Sjiggie09-18-07, 10:35 AM | Worht Korthek vs Ralein Dreamstriker is done here @Templer10 any news on the fight between Felice and Slade? |
| TelinArtho09-18-07, 10:36 AM | Starting work on Samuel vs Elrick and Kervan now. The other fight is still up for grabs for anyone that might have time. |
| templer1009-18-07, 10:47 AM | Worht Korthek vs Ralein Dreamstriker is done here @Templer10 any news on the fight between Felice and Slade? Ill get to it when iam home from work - bout 3'ish hours - very busy week for me. Sjiggie - tactics clarification Pm sent. |
| Sjiggie09-18-07, 11:03 AM | Response send If you can't finish the fight before the next pairing (not the deadline today) Slade will surrender he doesn't have a real chance anyway |
| templer1009-18-07, 11:10 AM | Response send If you can't finish the fight before the next pairing (not the deadline today) Slade will surrender he doesn't have a real chance anyway WEll i read your tactics and his - i rate your chances as somewhat smaller then hell freezing over - Ill get to it later - shouldnt take long - mostly rolling ego whips.. |
| TelinArtho09-18-07, 11:44 AM | Okay - well the first fight went pretty quickly (to this point). Now that I have to wait a bit for a response, I'll move on to my other fight. |
| lonewolf09-18-07, 12:21 PM | @Telin: Actually, Kervan has 2 dispel Magics prepared, one of them in his lvl4 Domain slot. I dont know if that changes anything... |
| TelinArtho09-18-07, 12:31 PM | Heh - funny. I noticed the one in the Level 4 slot, but not the level 3 one (I tend to think of Kervan as a druid...). Well - still waiting for a response from MWB on the matter. If I finish the other fight - and MWB hasn't responded, I'll see about continuing it. |
| Eamane09-18-07, 01:47 PM | Thanks for the run. Two easy things: - Political Career bonus: -> 2160xp/2400gp - Magic Vestment was cast in the fight so it should have just under 6 hrs remaning not 1hr. CWI = Craft wondrous Item Isn't the 5 hours the amount of time until the next fight? Huh. Changing those. |
| TelinArtho09-18-07, 02:02 PM | Isn't the 5 hours the amount of time until the next fight? Huh. Changing those. The time roll is the time "before" the fight. So if he had prebuffed Magic Vestments and it had a 6hour duration - with the 5 hour time roll - it would have 1 hour left. Since he cast it during the fight - he has 6 hours left (or just under 6 hours anyway), and it will be affected by the time roll next week. |
| TelinArtho09-18-07, 02:48 PM | Yorick (MacBrea) vs Reginald Molehusband (hogarth) is up and done. |
| Eamane09-18-07, 03:16 PM | Rennae Longhollow (Callix) vs Wooly (Whitebaron) is up here (http://forums.gleemax.com/showpost.php?p=13826024&postcount=1326). |
| TelinArtho09-18-07, 03:22 PM | I'm moving on in the Kervan and Elrick vs Samuel fight. Since Kervan did have the necessary read magics, it is only fair to continue. |
| templer1009-18-07, 04:06 PM | Felice vs slade is done (http://forums.gleemax.com/showpost.php?p=13826351&postcount=1327)- result as expected. |
| TelinArtho09-18-07, 04:06 PM | Kervan Sheharath (MindWandererB) and Elrick Flamebrother (templer10) vs Samuel HighgroundECL12 (lonewolf) [Interleague] is up. Probably a closer fight than it might have been thought of. @MWB - I believe MacBrea proved pretty effectively that a brooch of shielding gets eaten up REAL quick with a CL9 wand of Magic Missile... rather than dispel - it might've been worth it to just go for the jugular with that one... |
| templer1009-18-07, 04:18 PM | Kervan Sheharath (MindWandererB) and Elrick Flamebrother (templer10) vs Samuel HighgroundECL12 (lonewolf) [Interleague] is up. Probably a closer fight than it might have been thought of. @MWB - I believe MacBrea proved pretty effectively that a brooch of shielding gets eaten up REAL quick with a CL9 wand of Magic Missile... rather than dispel - it might've been worth it to just go for the jugular with that one... Maybe true - But if Elrick wouldnt have gone down after just 2 rounds this would have been a whole other ballgame... p.s - please do the Dispell on samuels buffs also on his mage armor cast as prebuff - iam just thinking about the Next oponent... |
| whitebaron09-18-07, 04:25 PM | Rennae Longhollow (Callix) vs Wooly (Whitebaron) is up here (http://forums.gleemax.com/showpost.php?p=13826024&postcount=1326). well, you're right with the starting box location - i alway forget that. i'll write it into the default tactics for my characters. most of them start in front of the box... about backup contingencies... judging from my last fight, i thought callix would go for the dorje and direct damage spells. thats why i believed i'd be dead soon. maybe i should have double-checked his constructs... but well, sloppy. tactic was written in my lunchtime break... so 30 min - eating = tactics. i guess you know how much that is then. ;) just one minor thing for future reference: shared spells end on mane, when he leaves me to attack. or for other purposes. one further note on second look: http://www.hwx.it/wizards.com/dice.php?sid=1942 is the url for the dice roller, though its not mentioned in the fight... naturally, i have no objections to the fight. |
| lonewolf09-18-07, 04:26 PM | @Telin: Thanks for running. I dont need any edits, but I´d like to add that Samuel didnt want to outlast any buffs, he just wanted to fight in the darkness. Kervan wanted to fight in the light. If Kervan doesnt leave the lighted area he is just as much delaying as Samuel is. The only solution I would see is to force both to meet halfway and move into the dimly lit area to fight there. In this fight that wouldnt have made much of a difference since the miss chance from the darkness doesnt help vs Magic missiles. |
| TelinArtho09-18-07, 04:26 PM | Maybe true - But if Elrick wouldnt have gone down after just 2 rounds this would have been a whole other ballgame... p.s - please do the Dispell on samuels buffs also on his mage armor cast as prebuff - iam just thinking about the Next oponent... The dispel is already noted in the "Items Used" section. Fixed on the Mage Armor though. |
| TelinArtho09-18-07, 04:30 PM | @Telin: Thanks for running. I dont need any edits, but I´d like to add that Samuel didnt want to outlast any buffs, he just wanted to fight in the darkness. Kervan wanted to fight in the light. If Kervan doesnt leave the lighted area he is just as much delaying as Samuel is. The only solution I would see is to force both to meet halfway and move into the dimly lit area to fight there. In this fight that wouldnt have made much of a difference since the miss chance from the darkness doesnt help vs Magic missiles. Not quite. This is the same kind of situation that Mitza and I argued about a while back. If you avoid your opponent in order to give yourself the most optimal battle ground, and the avoidance results in a situation that makes the opponent unable to engage you (which he wouldn't - being in total darkness without light...) - then your avoidance is what will be penalized - not the other way around. |
| lonewolf09-18-07, 04:46 PM | hmm I think I have to accept that. But please add a check vs Samuels Powerresistance as Kervan uses the wand of MM. +9 vs DC15 Might save me those charges on the Brooch. |
| templer1009-18-07, 04:46 PM | The dispel is already noted in the "Items Used" section. Fixed on the Mage Armor though. I meant that you didnt Roll a dispell check bs the MAge armor, and since there is an outside chance of me meeting samuel this 3FC... |
| lonewolf09-18-07, 04:51 PM | Now that you mention it: All those dispels only have a 50% chance of actually hitting Samuel because of his incorporeality... |
| Callix09-18-07, 04:56 PM | Rennae Longhollow (Callix) vs Wooly (Whitebaron) is up here (http://forums.gleemax.com/showpost.php?p=13826024&postcount=1326). Dammit... it all looks OK to me. Grrr..... |
| whitebaron09-18-07, 04:58 PM | Dammit... it all looks OK to me. Grrr..... hehe, i know that feeling. that's exactly what i felt last week. |
| Salrantol09-18-07, 05:02 PM | @templer10: Thanks for the run. About the 3FC section, it's her fight #1 for the cycle--I thought I'd listed that somewhere, sorry. |
| Salrantol09-18-07, 05:04 PM | And in unrelated news, Felice makes it all the way through ECL 5 in 3 fights (and in only one of those was she able to use her shiny new self-crafted dorjes). |
| templer1009-18-07, 05:17 PM | And in unrelated news, Felice makes it all the way through ECL 5 in 3 fights (and in only one of those was she able to use her shiny new self-crafted dorjes). Not bad But my record still stands - i did one ECL with Either lorian or longshot (dont remmber) in 2 fights (FFA's ftw). |
| MindWandererB09-18-07, 05:17 PM | Kervan Sheharath (MindWandererB) and Elrick Flamebrother (templer10) vs Samuel HighgroundECL12 (lonewolf) [Interleague] is up. Probably a closer fight than it might have been thought of. @MWB - I believe MacBrea proved pretty effectively that a brooch of shielding gets eaten up REAL quick with a CL9 wand of Magic Missile... rather than dispel - it might've been worth it to just go for the jugular with that one... Nah, I'm not that concerned with Kervan's win record, and killing a brooch would cost me over 800 gp worth of wand. Not worth it. Forgot about Dispel vs. Incorporeality. On the flip side, only one of Samuel's attacks should have hit: Kervan is AC 20+2(Prot. Evil)+4(Mage Armor)+4(Shield) = 30. But really, this was a mismatch anyway. Ghosts are just too hard to kill.... |
| Macbrea09-18-07, 05:22 PM | Yorick (MacBrea) vs Reginald Molehusband (hogarth) is up and done. One odd rules question for people on this fight. Yorick is a derro, which is a 'Monsterous Humanoid' does that count as 'One Humanoid' for purposes of spells? |
| hogarth09-18-07, 05:26 PM | One odd rules question for people on this fight. Yorick is a derro, which is a 'Monsterous Humanoid' does that count as 'One Humanoid' for purposes of spells? A Monstrous Humanoid is not a Humanoid for Brain Lock purposes; that's why Reginald had to augment his Brain Locks by 2 pp each (in order to affect a Monstrous Humanoid). |
| whitebaron09-18-07, 05:26 PM | One odd rules question for people on this fight. Yorick is a derro, which is a 'Monsterous Humanoid' does that count as 'One Humanoid' for purposes of spells? no. humanoid is one type, monstrous humanoid another. |
| Eluria09-18-07, 07:04 PM | Worht Korthek vs Ralein Dreamstriker is done here @Templer10 any news on the fight between Felice and Slade? Thanks for running the fight Sjiggie; went pretty much as I expected... could've used some more luck, but oh well. I don't see any major errors. |
| Callix09-18-07, 11:34 PM | Worht Korthek vs Ralein Dreamstriker is done here Thanks for the run. Everything looks fine. |
| whitebaron09-19-07, 03:28 AM | @taureus: do you think you'll finish your fights before the deadline? |
| Vathelokai09-19-07, 08:16 AM | @taureus: do you think you'll finish your fights before the deadline? Considering what I see in the dice roller... Tweak d4: 1 rolls, 2 average d20: 7 rolls, 9.7 average d100: 1 rolls, 65 average The Boar d20: 5 rolls, 8.4 average d8: 1 rolls, 1 average I think 2-fist has this one wrapped up. If Taureus can't finish, Tweak will surrender to avoid a hold over. |
| whitebaron09-19-07, 08:34 AM | Considering what I see in the dice roller... I think 2-fist has this one wrapped up. If Taureus can't finish, Tweak will surrender to avoid a hold over. i'd really like to have this fight finished too. but if it can't be helped, 2fist will settle for a draw if desired so by tweak. :) |
| TelinArtho09-19-07, 11:07 AM | Nah, I'm not that concerned with Kervan's win record, and killing a brooch would cost me over 800 gp worth of wand. Not worth it. Forgot about Dispel vs. Incorporeality. On the flip side, only one of Samuel's attacks should have hit: Kervan is AC 20+2(Prot. Evil)+4(Mage Armor)+4(Shield) = 30. But really, this was a mismatch anyway. Ghosts are just too hard to kill.... Fixed the other issues mentioned before. Both dispel magics made it past incorporeality. The targetted dispel on Samuel didn't dispel the Mage Armor prebuff. About the above - Kervan never got Mage Armor up on himself (he did cast it on Elrick though) - as specified in the tactics. |
| MindWandererB09-19-07, 04:23 PM | Considering what I see in the dice roller... I think 2-fist has this one wrapped up. If Taureus can't finish, Tweak will surrender to avoid a hold over. As it is now past deadline and it's too late to edit anyway, I'll just let the fight run over. |
| Taureus_Drakken09-19-07, 08:15 PM | I am really sorry for letting those two matches run over...I switched jobs this past week, and my new position took a lot out of me. I will make sure that in the future that I don't procrastinate quite so badly. ¬Taureus¬ |