Improved natural attack for monks? [Archive] - Wizards Community

Improved natural attack for monks? [Archive] - Wizards Community

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Caterane
03-08-04, 08:23 PM The Council of Elder Mods (http://boards1.wizards.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=193215) couldn´t agree on the topic (4:4 draw) so the poll goes in the open (House of Commons?).

Anyway, the poll is open for 7 days from now on. Every citizen has one and only one voice. Note that this is the first open poll and we have no experience with this. I hope everything will be ok. If this doesn`t work because there are some fake accounts to influence the polls one way or another we have to find another solution to deal with draws than using open polls. It`s in your hands.

This poll is about the Improved natural attack Debate (http://boards1.wizards.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=192878); I guess there`s no one out there who hasn`t followed the discussion. Of course, the vote is totally up to you but I strongly recommend to read the thread if you are not sure what to vote, or vote abstain.

We are still not sure if a simple majority should be sufficent (1 vote more wins) or if it should need a clearer result but for now we see how the issue develops. The following list contains all current members of the CoCo.

IMPORTANT: Please make one (and only one) post in this thread after you have voted!

[list=1]
The House of Commons:
Mustadio[MoF] [Yes]
Myrridin
Arstimis [Yes]
Bishop the Bardican [No]
Coyote Skyheart
Nivek Longshadow
Rayne [Yes]
Druid Roxors [Yes]
Battousai2005 [Yes]
Xeno Eleusis [Abstain]
Cellardweller [No]
Kaigan
Pitbull
Tharkos
Sshuit [Yes]
Jonah Black
Kattattack22 [Yes]
Mercy [Yes]
Rosella [No]
KerlanRayne
Hatzinger
Marketshare [No]
Alterlat
Barrelmaster [Yes]
Ethendril

Council of Elder Mods:
Moherajikuyx [No]
Tellish of Ket [No]
SnarkHunter [Yes]
Magagumo [Yes]
Jindl [Yes]
LLMadCow [No]
Motherbast [Yes]
Caterane [No]
[/list=1] Please vote only if your name is in the list!

Poll will be closed on March 16th.

Happy voting!
Cat

THE POLL HAS BEEN CLOSED. RESULT 13:7 FOR INA.
Battousai2005
03-08-04, 08:32 PM First vote!!!

EDIT: Voted yes.
Caterane
03-08-04, 08:41 PM VOTED!

No, it`s clearly NOT possible for plenty of reasons I posted in the debate thread.
^Rayne^
03-08-04, 08:52 PM I have voted.

Edit: I voted, "Yes".
Druid Roxors
03-08-04, 08:53 PM Me too,
Aye for INA!
sshuit
03-08-04, 08:57 PM sshuit votes in favour of INA for Monks
Mercy
03-08-04, 09:27 PM Yes, Voted [Just to make it clear]
xeno_eleusis
03-08-04, 09:45 PM Voted.

** Edit: I am one of 3 Abstainers **
Jindl
03-08-04, 10:06 PM Yes.
MotherBast
03-08-04, 11:12 PM Voted yes
cellardweller
03-08-04, 11:34 PM signed, sealed and delivered (no)
Tellish_of_Ket
03-08-04, 11:41 PM I like this poll thread.

I have also voted. No of course :D

-ToK
Alterlat
03-08-04, 11:43 PM Voted.
Mustadio[MoF]
03-09-04, 12:04 AM Voted GO INA
kattattack22
03-09-04, 01:07 AM The Virtuous Master kattattack22 of Kell has voted in favor of powering up monks (since his first D&D character ever was a monk and has been partial to them ever since).
SnarkHunter
03-09-04, 01:24 AM I vote yes, or will soon.
LLMadCow
03-09-04, 01:32 AM The rumors of my death have been wildly exagerated. I am alive and well, and I have voted!
Arstimis
03-09-04, 02:48 AM My Vote has been cast.

I bet you cant guess what i voted :P

It was YES
Pittbull
03-09-04, 09:47 AM :confused: :confused: :confused: :bow: VOTED!
JosephKell
03-09-04, 10:35 AM Despite not voting I still have to use this quote...
"I'm so versatile that I deserve two votes!"

But if I had voted, I would've voted No.
barrel_master
03-09-04, 01:06 PM I vote yes.
Rosella
03-09-04, 02:35 PM It's no phb feat. Simple as that. unless you're a monster etc. from MM you can't use it.
Myrridin
03-09-04, 02:48 PM Voted
JosephKell
03-09-04, 02:52 PM Caterane, I know you only want people playing to vote, but what about people that come later? Shouldn't they get to vote now if they had thoughts of playing or mastering at a later date?

I think the best thing for such a poll is to invite everyone over from the C.O. board and ask each of them to vote once.
Arstimis
03-09-04, 02:55 PM Because that would be too difficult, and this is supposed to be for people that play in the core arena, and are affected by it.
Caterane
03-09-04, 02:59 PM Please, let`s discuss things in the Tavern. I replied there.

Tavern (http://boards1.wizards.com/showthread.php?s=&postid=2804150#post2804150)
Moherajikuyx
03-09-04, 04:44 PM I voted too btw.
Bishop the Bardican
03-09-04, 04:59 PM Voted No.
Ethendril
03-09-04, 05:22 PM Voted.
Lokathor
03-09-04, 06:33 PM Voted yes. It doesn't matter what book it's in, it's listed as a general feat.

"A monk’s unarmed strike is treated both as a manufactured weapon and a natural weapon for the purpose of spells and effects that enhance or improve either manufactured weapons or natural weapons." -Character Classes I

Seems clear to me that a monk would qualify.
Caterane
03-09-04, 06:40 PM @Lokathor:
First of all, it`s "spells and effects"
Secondly, your vote doesn`t count because you`re not in the list
Third, you`re free to post a character thus sign on as a member of the Coco (and making your vote valid; I`ll add your name in this case).
Fourth, any discussion --> Tavern or PM me

Thanks, Cat
Kaigan
03-09-04, 07:47 PM Voted
Tellish_of_Ket
03-09-04, 11:36 PM He didn't post his reply, but Market_Share voted NO as well.

Or at least if he did reply, i don't see it, but i do know he voted.

-ToK
Hatzinger
03-10-04, 04:38 AM Voted!
Market_Share
03-11-04, 06:53 AM I had already previously voted...just didn't post that i did.
ur..uh..doing that now. :D

SPIKE

Post/Author/DateTime	Post
Caterane 03-08-04, 08:23 PM	The Council of Elder Mods (http://boards1.wizards.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=193215) couldn´t agree on the topic (4:4 draw) so the poll goes in the open (House of Commons?). Anyway, the poll is open for 7 days from now on. Every citizen has one and only one voice. Note that this is the first open poll and we have no experience with this. I hope everything will be ok. If this doesn`t work because there are some fake accounts to influence the polls one way or another we have to find another solution to deal with draws than using open polls. It`s in your hands. This poll is about the Improved natural attack Debate (http://boards1.wizards.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=192878); I guess there`s no one out there who hasn`t followed the discussion. Of course, the vote is totally up to you but I strongly recommend to read the thread if you are not sure what to vote, or vote abstain. We are still not sure if a simple majority should be sufficent (1 vote more wins) or if it should need a clearer result but for now we see how the issue develops. The following list contains all current members of the CoCo. IMPORTANT: Please make one (and only one) post in this thread after you have voted! [list=1] The House of Commons: Mustadio[MoF] [Yes] Myrridin Arstimis [Yes] Bishop the Bardican [No] Coyote Skyheart Nivek Longshadow Rayne [Yes] Druid Roxors [Yes] Battousai2005 [Yes] Xeno Eleusis [Abstain] Cellardweller [No] Kaigan Pitbull Tharkos Sshuit [Yes] Jonah Black Kattattack22 [Yes] Mercy [Yes] Rosella [No] KerlanRayne Hatzinger Marketshare [No] Alterlat Barrelmaster [Yes] Ethendril Council of Elder Mods: Moherajikuyx [No] Tellish of Ket [No] SnarkHunter [Yes] Magagumo [Yes] Jindl [Yes] LLMadCow [No] Motherbast [Yes] Caterane [No] [/list=1] Please vote only if your name is in the list! Poll will be closed on March 16th. Happy voting! Cat THE POLL HAS BEEN CLOSED. RESULT 13:7 FOR INA.
Battousai2005 03-08-04, 08:32 PM	First vote!!! EDIT: Voted yes.
Caterane 03-08-04, 08:41 PM	VOTED! No, it`s clearly NOT possible for plenty of reasons I posted in the debate thread.
^Rayne^ 03-08-04, 08:52 PM	I have voted. Edit: I voted, "Yes".
Druid Roxors 03-08-04, 08:53 PM	Me too, Aye for INA!
sshuit 03-08-04, 08:57 PM	sshuit votes in favour of INA for Monks
Mercy 03-08-04, 09:27 PM	Yes, Voted [Just to make it clear]
xeno_eleusis 03-08-04, 09:45 PM	Voted. Edit: I am one of 3 Abstainers
Jindl 03-08-04, 10:06 PM	Yes.
MotherBast 03-08-04, 11:12 PM	Voted yes
cellardweller 03-08-04, 11:34 PM	signed, sealed and delivered (no)
Tellish_of_Ket 03-08-04, 11:41 PM	I like this poll thread. I have also voted. No of course :D -ToK
Alterlat 03-08-04, 11:43 PM	Voted.
Mustadio[MoF] 03-09-04, 12:04 AM	Voted GO INA
kattattack22 03-09-04, 01:07 AM	The Virtuous Master kattattack22 of Kell has voted in favor of powering up monks (since his first D&D character ever was a monk and has been partial to them ever since).
SnarkHunter 03-09-04, 01:24 AM	I vote yes, or will soon.
LLMadCow 03-09-04, 01:32 AM	The rumors of my death have been wildly exagerated. I am alive and well, and I have voted!
Arstimis 03-09-04, 02:48 AM	My Vote has been cast. I bet you cant guess what i voted :P It was YES
Pittbull 03-09-04, 09:47 AM	:confused: :confused: :confused: :bow: VOTED!
JosephKell 03-09-04, 10:35 AM	Despite not voting I still have to use this quote... "I'm so versatile that I deserve two votes!" But if I had voted, I would've voted No.
barrel_master 03-09-04, 01:06 PM	I vote yes.
Rosella 03-09-04, 02:35 PM	It's no phb feat. Simple as that. unless you're a monster etc. from MM you can't use it.
Myrridin 03-09-04, 02:48 PM	Voted
JosephKell 03-09-04, 02:52 PM	Caterane, I know you only want people playing to vote, but what about people that come later? Shouldn't they get to vote now if they had thoughts of playing or mastering at a later date? I think the best thing for such a poll is to invite everyone over from the C.O. board and ask each of them to vote once.
Arstimis 03-09-04, 02:55 PM	Because that would be too difficult, and this is supposed to be for people that play in the core arena, and are affected by it.
Caterane 03-09-04, 02:59 PM	Please, let`s discuss things in the Tavern. I replied there. Tavern (http://boards1.wizards.com/showthread.php?s=&postid=2804150#post2804150)
Moherajikuyx 03-09-04, 04:44 PM	I voted too btw.
Bishop the Bardican 03-09-04, 04:59 PM	Voted No.
Ethendril 03-09-04, 05:22 PM	Voted.
Lokathor 03-09-04, 06:33 PM	Voted yes. It doesn't matter what book it's in, it's listed as a general feat. "A monk’s unarmed strike is treated both as a manufactured weapon and a natural weapon for the purpose of spells and effects that enhance or improve either manufactured weapons or natural weapons." -Character Classes I Seems clear to me that a monk would qualify.
Caterane 03-09-04, 06:40 PM	@Lokathor: First of all, it`s "spells and effects" Secondly, your vote doesn`t count because you`re not in the list Third, you`re free to post a character thus sign on as a member of the Coco (and making your vote valid; I`ll add your name in this case). Fourth, any discussion --> Tavern or PM me Thanks, Cat
Kaigan 03-09-04, 07:47 PM	Voted
Tellish_of_Ket 03-09-04, 11:36 PM	He didn't post his reply, but Market_Share voted NO as well. Or at least if he did reply, i don't see it, but i do know he voted. -ToK
Hatzinger 03-10-04, 04:38 AM	Voted!
Market_Share 03-11-04, 06:53 AM	I had already previously voted...just didn't post that i did. ur..uh..doing that now. :D SPIKE